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CSX Attendance Policy

NO!!! You CAN'T have a day off!

    The railroad practically invented the term 'on-call'. Many CSX employees do not have schedules, but are forced into working a 'list'. Most lists are on call 6 days a week, 24 hours a day, and often the employee cannot even choose their day off. It is common to be called to work during an assigned day off.

    Unscheduled days off are usually not granted for family or religious obligations. There are many CSX employees who have been unable to attend their childrens' birthday parties, their wedding anniversaries, and even funerals because they were not allowed time off.

    We've even heard of people who had to call out sick, to attend their own wedding! We're sure that some of these stories that can top even that one...



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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 26 January 2015

Our sawed off L/C too busy doing RFE work to let us know what's going
on.

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Name: $$$$$$$
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Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 26 January 2015

LOCO 30

Of course not. Got to fire fire and fire. How else do you think they
are going to keep that fancy school they built paid for. Got to keep
those seats warm and dust free. Its a school. Bet your bottom they get
plenty and then some from feds to play the game. Hire and get
unemployed off the street. Teach them a skill then get $$$$$ for doing
so. A lot of us just cant figure the math. The cooks, teachers, grounds
keepers, utilities, insurance and everything else that goes into that
school has to be paid for my stockholders money. No way government is
flipping the whole bill. I think as a stockholder we should have
something to say about how our money is spent. I say they spent to much
on it and could have done just fine with a warehouse somewhere. New
hires learn 90% of what they need in the field anyway. Don't need a
big fancy school to learn what they learn. Big waste hole of money.
Man, got to wonder how the railroads managed in the old days without a
big fat fancy school!

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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 26 January 2015

Well it happened in two back to back trips......deadhead to terre haute
to pick up 90 mtgs to spot up after we pull 90 loads out....ok sounds
good.....show up to get on the train...only two engines are with it now
and the rear unit is trail only account of non functioning horn....WE
NEED THIS ENGINE TO BE A LEADER!!!....this engine just ran thru 2
locomotive diesel shop terminals....how can this happen?....non
accountability to the tee....someones ass should be hung for this but
prolly not....who gives a shit about a customer that won't get their
cars now?.....certainly not CSX.....I don't give a shit either
then....next day get on a train Indianapolis brings up.....3 engines
and the rear is written up account of low water ,stinking bathroom,and
radio malfunctions.....I am telling you all it never ends.....the only
things that will never end is the non maintenance on the most important
part of any railroad .....THE LOCOMOTIVES !!!!...

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Name: WTF?????
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Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 26 January 2015

go figure this.....

NEW POLICY JUST SHOWED UP IN THE CSX HEADQUARTER NOTICES.....TODAY OF
ALL DAYS...... 

READ READ READ AND FALL OVER.....

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Name: VLC
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Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 26 January 2015

BOB

You wont find a copy of the new attendance policy on the employee
gateway or in any bulletin.  IT HAS NOT BEEN PUBLISHED AS OF THIS
MORNING. IT IS NOT IN ANY CSX HEADQUARTER BULLETIN OR ON THE GATEWAY.
IT IS EFFECTIVE ON FEBRUARY 1ST SO THEY MUST GET SOMETHING OUT QUICK OR
THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL THEY CAN ENFORCE THIS POLICY. ALL EMPLOYEES ARE
SUPPOSED TO BE GIVEN ENOUGH TIME TO REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE POLICY WITH
THEIR UNION OFFICALS AND CSX LABOR RELATIONS DEPARTMENT.

NO WHERE IN OUR LABOR AGREEMENTS DOES IT ALLOW OUR UNIONS TO RESTRICT
THE COMPANIES RIGHTS TO CHANGE OR DEVELOPE NEW POLICIES. HOWEVER THEY
CAN NOT CREATE POLICIES THAT DIRECTLY VIOLATE OUR AGREEMENT. THE
COMPANY MUST GIVE NOTICE TO THE UNIONS NO LESS THAN 60 DAYS BEFORE THEY
PUT A POLICY INTO ACTION. OUR UNIONS HAVE KNOWN ABOUT THIS PROPOSAL
LONGER THAN THAT!  THE UNIONS HAVE DELIBERATLEY KEPT THE MEMBERS IN THE
DARK BECAUSE THEY KNEW IF IT LEAKED OUT THEY WOULD HAVE TO DEAL WITH AN
UPROAR IN ALL OF THE LOCALS. THEY DID NOT WANT TO DEAL WITH THE MADNESS
IT WOULD CAUSE.

WHERE YOUR UNIONS ARE IN  VIOLATION OF REPRESENTING YOU TO THEIR
FULLEST ABILITIES, IS IN THE FAILURE TO ENFORCE THE AGREEMENT ARTICLES
STATING...... THE COMPANY WILL KEEP ENOUGH EMPLOYEES HIRED TO COVER
UNEXPECTED MANPOWER SHORTAGES(PB,DV,PD,SICK,WEATHER, ETC) ON TOP OF
EXPECTED VACATION SCHEDULES. THE COMPANY HAS FAILED TO DO SO AND
BECAUSE THE UNIONS HAVE ALLOWED THIS TO HAPPEN THE EMPLOYEES WILL PAY
FOR MANPOWER SHORTAGE PROBLEM. THE COMPANIES INABILITY TO KEEP
EMPLOYEES(68% TURNOVER RATE) DUE TO WORKING IN A HOSTILE AND DEMANDING
ENVIORNMENT AND THE NEED TO KEEP THE SCHOOL SEATS FILLED WITH NEWLY
HIRED EMPLOYEES AND GOVERNMENT GRANTS IS ANOTHER REASON THEY HAVE
DECIDED TO PUNISH THE HARD WORKING EMPLOYEES AND THROW ANOTHER TOTALLY
UNREASONABLE ATTENDANCE POLICY DOWN THEIR THROATS.

ANOTHER MAJOR ISSUE IS AN EMPLOYEE MIGHT HAVE TO USE 2-3 PERSONAL OR
DAILY VACATION DAYS JUST TO MAKE SURE THEY WILL BE HOME FOR THEIR
SCHEDULED APPOINTMENT. HAVING TO BURN 2-3 DAYS JUST TO MAKE SURE YOU
WILL BE HOME FOR 1 IS JUST PURE BS!
WITH THE OLD POLICY AS WELL AS THE NEW POLCIY IF YOU MARK OFF DOCTORS
APPOINTMENT OR SICK BECAUSE YOU KNOW YOU ARE GOING TO GET FORCED OUT OF
TOWN AND THERES A GOOD CHANCE YOU WONT BE BACK FOR 2 DAYS AND YOUR
APPOINTMENT IS 1 1/2 DAYS FROM THE MARKOFF, YOUR GOING TO GET CHARGED
WITH BEING OFF TOO LONG IF YOU DONT MARK BACK UP WITHIN 24 HOURS. EVEN
IF YOU ARE ON A POOL THAT HAS SCHEDULED DAYS OFF, POOL CREWS CANT
GUARENTEE THEY WILL BE IN TOWN ON THEIR SCHEDULED OFF DAY TO MEET THEIR
SCHEDULED APPOINTMENT. JOBS THAT ARE 5-2 AND HAVE REGULAR ASSIGNED
SHIFTS AND OFF DAYS KNOW THEY WILL BE HOME EVERYDAY AND DONT HAVE THIS
PROBLEM. CREWS THAT ARE OUT ON THE ROAD AWAY FROM HOME ALL THE TIME ARE
THE ONES WHO ARE GETTING PUNISHED BY ALL OF THIS! IF THE COMPANY DID
SOME SERIOUS RESEARCH THEY WOULD FIND THAT MOST EMPLOYEES DO SCHEDULE
THEIR APPOINTMENTS ON ONE OF THEIR OFF DAYS. MOST DO IT ON THEIR SECOND
DAY BECAUSE THEY HAVE A BETTER CHANCE OF BEING HOME. BUT THATS NO
GUARENTEE AND GRABBING A PERSONAL DAY OR DAILY VACATION DAY AT THE LAST
MINUTE ISNT ALWAYS POSSIBLE. THEY KNOW THIS BUT OBVIOULSLY DONT CARE! I
MYSELF HAVE HAD TO RESCHEDULE AN APPOINTMENT 5 TIMES IN ORDER TO BE
ABLE TO GET TO IT WITHOUT BURNING MY DAYS OR MARKING OFF SICK. THIS IS
WHAT THE COMPANY WANTS. RESCHEDULE, RESCHEDULE, RESCHEDULE OR BURN UP
YOUR DAYS. NO SWEAT OFF THEIR BACKS. 

IF THE COMPANY HAD TO COMPENSATE EACH EMPLOYEE FOR EACH DAY HE TOOK OFF
SICK IT MIGHT BE UNDERSTANDABLE. BUT THEY DONT!!!!!! IF THEY HAVE
MANPOWER SHORTAGE PROBLEMS IT IS TOTALLY THEIR FAULT. KEEP PEOPLE HIRED
AND KEEP THE EXTRA BOARS FULL ENOUGH TO TAKE CARE OF SHORTAGES. GIVE
MORE PERSONAL AND VACATION DAYS IF YOU EXPECT THE EMPLOYEE TO USE THEM
TO HONOR APPOINTMENTS. AND THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS TO CREATE A WORK
ENVIORNMENT THAT ENCOURAGES PEOPLE TO STAY WITH THE COMPANY. THE COMPANY
WANTS YOU TO SELL YOUR SOUL AND GIVE YOUR ENTIRE PERSONAL LIFE TO THEM,
THEN THEY SHOULD FIND A WAY TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO HONOR THEIR APPOINTMENTS
WITHOUT FEAR OF BEING PUNISHED OR HAVE TO BURN UNNEEDED VALUABLE
PERSONAL OR VACATION DAYS TO DO IT!

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Name: 
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 26 January 2015

New system notice out effective Feb 1st

The latest updated attendance policy. It seems the turnover rate
wasn't high enough.

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Name: 
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Employed as: Brakeman, for 1-10 years
Posted: 26 January 2015

http://utu1162.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/ALJ-Decision-and-Order-dtd-12-4-2014.pdf

everyone needs to read this and pass it on.   BIG WIN for T&E employees
dealing with attendance.

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Name: 
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Employed as: Brakeman, for 20-30 years
Posted: 25 January 2015

UTU 1162 - Major ruling in a DOL absenteeism case on ...


check this  out

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Name: 
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Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 25 January 2015

How does this apply to the new caps attendance policy.  This is from csx
utu bo agreement.


5. Discipline Forgiveness Employees with at least five (5) years of
conductor 
seniority, and who are governed by this agreement, will be subject to
the following –
a) An employee who maintains a clear record (no IDPAP or attendance
discipline 
events) for either the first or second half of a year (Jan-Jun or
Jul-Dec) will cancel the 
one (1) latest disciplinary entry (IDPAP or absenteeism) for that half,
up to two per 
year;
b) Should that employee maintain a clear record for two consecutive six
month periods
(1st and 2nd or 2nd and 1st), the employee would have an additional
(3rd) discipline 
entry cleared from his service record; and
c) This discipline forgiveness would be retroactive back to the period
beginning

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Name: herewegoagain
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 24 January 2015

@ bob
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bwa3bdjeEyepWnNiNElCVUdVUTg/edit?pli=1

We were informed the GC ass clowns wrote labor relations a letter. I
red  it same bs they wrote in 2010.

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Name: 
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 24 January 2015

Its about time these brain washed new hires get the big picture with
this new attendance policy, and understand that CSX is not your
friend.

When Michael Ward sends out those quarterly letters, my wife is now
tossing it in the garbage before I can even read the humor.  

Yeah....CSX SUCKS for sure!

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Name: bob
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Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 24 January 2015

I must be dumb , but where do I find this new attendance policy
posted???  I looked in system notices and my division notices and csx
gateway and nothing

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Name: Glad 
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Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 22 January 2015

Corporate must think employees live in barracks, feel totally blessed to
have a job, & have no life at all other than the RR.   Admittedly, there
are positives being employed by csx, but things could, ought to be &
should be, a whole lot better. 

Their attendance policies are probably written & administered by bean
counters with absolutely no clue what it's like to work in the
transportation dept. & have to protect unassigned/unscheduled road
freight assignments - one rest day per week.

Glad (to be outta there)

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Name: 
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Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 22 January 2015

@herewegoagain

This is just directed at the attendance policy. Basically this
attendance policy just done away with our (sick) days once a month. Now
if you lay off sick say Jan. 3rd. you will be deducted 3 points (with
doctor's note), 4 Mon-Thurs. (without doctor's note) and 6 on
weekends (without doctor's note).. You will then have to stay
available till March 1st to get -3 points off your record. Nothing
attendance wise will drop off your record in 6 months it will be
yearly. If you accumulate 20+ points and 1 letter for being in
attendance violation. That will drop off your record Jan 1. and you
will be reset to 0 and the 1 letter drop off your record. If you
accumulate 2 letters then Jan 1st. your points will reset to 0 but you
will drop back to 1 letter (step 1). 

We use to be able layoff sick anytime, any day of the week once a month
and have nothing count against us. Problem I have with the entire thing
is csx forcing people with fmla to use it for being sick (to stay out
of trouble) and if you do accumulate some points they are forcing you
not to use FMLA to get those points off your record. I also have a
problem with Freight pool workers on call 24/7, no days off being held
to the same standards and guys working 5 days a week with 2 days off.
God forbid the company sitting down with employee's and coming up a
decent attendance policy

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Name: herewegoagain
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 21 January 2015

New attendance policy I don't blame the carrier. I blame the unions. I
expect this bull out of the carrier. Do we still have our record
cleared after 3yrs with no incidents? Does one drop off after 6months?

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Name: 
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 21 January 2015

Wonder how much CSX is going to pay the new bean counter to keep track
of everyones attendance records?.......keep your scorecards handy
everybody....oh boy a new game to play children.....batter
up!.......let's knock this one out of the park!!!!!......lol......

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Name: 
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 21 January 2015

To terrible....on the attendance policy that goes into effect february
1st.....BLET ssa states engineers can mark off any reason and if not
called on a job and marks back up before his turn is called it will not
count against his attendance record......I will assume if we mark off
personal business or weather conditions that will not go against our
record.....there was mention of these two mark off options......

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Name: 
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 21 January 2015

To LE 10-20--1/18/15

I take your post as honest and from your experience, and respect them.
Your comment on foreign power (being superior) may be true. It could
happen every trip for an entire career. With all thing's being equal
you will find that the reliability of CSX power is not the standard
bearer of the world, but who know's who is and who is not? The end
result is equipment ages and becomes less reliable. Check back to my
previous post, if everything is working, what more do you expect?



 Name: 
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 18 January 2015

To other non employee.....just telling everyone about the problems we
all encounter on a daily basis with the equipment CSX provides us to
get a job accomplished in 12 hours or less.....don't seem to have
near
the problems with foreign power ....facts speak for themselves.....it
is
what it is no matter what you make believe.....

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Name: 
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 20 January 2015

January 20, 2015..........and CSX STILL SUCKS!!!!!!!

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Name: Terrible
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Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 19 January 2015

Wow when you thought CSX couldn't get a worse attendance policy think
again. They are now going on a un-fair point system.... Here is a brief
look at it 

Miss Call- 10 points
Sick without excuse- 4 points Mon-Thurs, 6 points Fri-Sun
Sick with valid medical documentation- 3 points
Emergency treatment, Hospitalize - 0 points

3 points will be deductive for each month with no attendance issues,
can't get below 0 points. 

When you hit 20+ points you will get warning letter and 10 points
deducted. Example you get miss call (10), 4 days flu (12) with doctor
excuse. You will receive warning letter for your (22) total points and
points moved down to (12). 

If you have FMLA and missed work you will not receive points for
missing work but you will not receive 3 points for good attendance that
month either. So if you had 10 points for a miss call only way to get
that down to 7 points is to have perfect attendance the following month
and Only approved vacation, demand day off (DDO), personal leave, jury
duty, work-related illness or injury with valid doctor’s note and
bereavement leave day is consider not to count against you.

So here is a final example... 

Employee A gets Miss Call and Flu for 4 days with excuse. 22 points he
will receive warning letter and points move down to 12.

Employee A gets another miss call +10 more points and he hits 20+
again.. Warning letter 2 and points move back to 12

Employee A misses 2 days sick no excuse on weekend... +12 points total
24..  Fired for X amount of days and moved back to 14 points...

Employee receives miss Call= Dismissed for attendance.


In conclusion only thing I see the company is trying to do is getting
someone on a miss call, or sick a few days and not being able to get
his point total back to 0 without staying marked up 4 months straight
excluding vacation, death, jury duty... This is nothing more than
preventing someone in attendance trouble from using FMLA to get
attendance problems off your record. Basically you can get a miss call,
mark off sick ect. but only way your record is going to get back clean
is not using FMLA and stay marked up..

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