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Name: Yard Rat
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Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 04 May 2016

"Unless there has been a change -- If you have less than three (3)
yrs.
seniority & are furloughed for 365 consecutive days, you may be
terminated."

How the unions agreed to this ill never know.

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Name: All Terrain
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 03 May 2016

OFFICIALly Lost.

Thanks for the great article.  Yes you should write a book. I know a
few LC's that need to read it. I'm not sure where you're located,
but if you ever get bored, Andrea Dayheart works for the EEOC out of
Indianapolis.  She would love to hear what you have to say.  She's
actively going after CSX now, and could definitely use your insight on
how the railroad works, how they operate, and how they actively target
their employees.

Andrea Dayheart  317 226 5490

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Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 03 May 2016

Sad but so true. There must be a better way!


Name: Nicole
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 02 May 2016

I am the wife of a hard working employee. We have spent all this money
over a short period of time for him to make his dream job come true.
Going to New York for a job interview required  hotel, unpaid work
day,
gas etc...we felt it was the right disicsion for our family.Then off
to
GA for school/training. Then we had to wait a whole month for pay and
he was too far away to come home, so more hotel fare. Yes, we got
predium but everything was already a month behind! We have sacrificed
again to make his dreams come true. Then comes the news that 3months
after working, he is getting fourloughed. We have drained our
accounts,
Ira and my step dad just to keep what we got. He can't get hired
because we live in a coal state/recession. It's been 6 months now and
no bids have been accepted and if they were, he is so low at the totem
pole he could get bumped. I thought this was a great career choice for
our family. This Job has no security or stability to offer. another
complaint I have is the ones with the most seniority are the laziest
bunches of sorry butts I've ever seen! They always call Union in on
things. They dont car about production because they might have to
actually work.  We are Now filing for bankruptcy and have no
retirement
or medical insurance for our kids. We were better off before my
husband
started working here.This is not worth the money they pay you
people!!!! You'll just be fourloughed or bumped! You better have a
hefty savings account if you do choice this company as a career!

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Name: 
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Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 03 May 2016

To all furloughed people:

Unless there has been a change -- If you have less than three (3) yrs.
seniority & are furloughed for 365 consecutive days, you may be
terminated.

See:
      B&O Agreement, Rule 2. Seniority - paragraph(d).
      CSXT Labor Agreement 4-064-93
      1985 UTU National Agreement, Article XII.

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Name: Furloughed
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 02 May 2016

As a person who was furloughed on the day after qualifying, it was very
disheartening to log on and find out that you were
displaced/furloughed.
I knew there was a chance it could happen, because of all the rumors
going around about cutbacks.  But, like some I choose to remain
positive, and to this day, I still believe I made the correct choice.
I've read the NMAD agreement several times and haven't come across
the section referring to being eliminated from the roster, if your
furloughed for more than 366 days..!!!.  Unless I've missed a complete
section
As of today I'm number 17 on the recall list so the likelihood of
being called back soon is slim so I'm moving forward with other
opportunities .

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Name: been furloughed
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Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 02 May 2016

Nicole

I am sorry that your husband and your family jumped through all those
hoops and money to chase his dream, but he is not alone and it will not
be the end of it.  If your husband had done his homework out in the
field he would have learned beforehand that his job was not guaranteed
and even if he did make it through training he had a good chance of
being on the street some time in his career. We see it way too often in
the yards where a new cub comes in and spends his money left and right
just to find himself of the street. If you have ever read this site you
should have seen in the past the importance of a turn over rate to keep
the school afloat and the government grants coming in. At one time
schooling was paid for by the employee when he was offered a chance to
become a railroader. After several lawsuits for misrepresentation of
the job benefits and starting salaries the company was forced to pay
for the training. This allowed them to do as they pleased and offer
what they wanted because the employee wasn't paying the company to get
his job. As someone posted earlier, after a year they do not have to
call him back and they can bring someone new into the school to replace
him. How can they do this? Because you didn't pay for it or as they
say, buy his job. If you know of anyone else who is interested in
chasing the dream of becoming a railroader make sure you tell them to
get out in the field and talk to the men on the ground. It may be too
late for your husband but you would be doing a great service to other
families!

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Name: Nicole
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 02 May 2016

I am the wife of a hard working employee. We have spent all this money
over a short period of time for him to make his dream job come true.
Going to New York for a job interview required  hotel, unpaid work day,
gas etc...we felt it was the right disicsion for our family.Then off to
GA for school/training. Then we had to wait a whole month for pay and
he was too far away to come home, so more hotel fare. Yes, we got
predium but everything was already a month behind! We have sacrificed
again to make his dreams come true. Then comes the news that 3months
after working, he is getting fourloughed. We have drained our accounts,
Ira and my step dad just to keep what we got. He can't get hired
because we live in a coal state/recession. It's been 6 months now and
no bids have been accepted and if they were, he is so low at the totem
pole he could get bumped. I thought this was a great career choice for
our family. This Job has no security or stability to offer. another
complaint I have is the ones with the most seniority are the laziest
bunches of sorry butts I've ever seen! They always call Union in on
things. They dont car about production because they might have to
actually work.  We are Now filing for bankruptcy and have no retirement
or medical insurance for our kids. We were better off before my husband
started working here.This is not worth the money they pay you
people!!!! You'll just be fourloughed or bumped! You better have a
hefty savings account if you do choice this company as a career!

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Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 02 May 2016

Yard Rat,

Look at the B&O Schedule Agreement (Blue Bible),  
Rule 2 - Seniority, paragraph (d).

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Name: TECH
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Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 20-30 years
Posted: 02 May 2016

ALL CREWS

Please note that the Labor relations department is now having all
claims that are submitted for working out of route or off your
designated job assigned area reviewed through the GPS. If you are
denied a claim and are notified via your earning statement or email
that it was denied because the visual GPS showed that your train did
not travel to the area designated you need to immediately report this
to the FRA operations department, head of csx operating department and
the USDOT. Include any witnesses that can verify that you traveled to
the area reported. This is serious business. Any problems with accurate
information obtained through the GPS is a serious safety issue for all
employee's. It may also be of interest to homeland security. If your
train contains military, highly sensitive or hazardous material its
location should be accurately monitored at all times. The sooner you
forward the information to the above departments the better. We also
suggest that you forward the information directly to the International
level of your union.

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Name: Yard Rat
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 02 May 2016

"Northern Mid Atlantic
Agreement (NMAD)  In this agreement, it clearly stated that if you
were
furloughed (off work) for more than one year (366 days) you no longer
had a job."

Please cite the article, page, or rule regarding this. Ive read nmad
cover to cover and never saw this

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Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 01 May 2016

RE; Local Chairman:

Do not allow yourself and your members to play the railroad's game!

You should notify the carrier and informed them that all your members
has been advised to record all conversations with representatives of
the railroad in any capacity.

All Railroaders: All smart phones can be loaded with Recording Apps
that can be used at your leisure!

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Name: LOCAL CHAIRMAN
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 01 May 2016

ALL EMPLOYEES


Ok people, LISTEN UP AND PAY ATTENTION!  It has been voiced by too
numerous a number of members to count that there is a serious problem
with communication within the crew management center. 
 Now, we all know that is has been a pain since they went to the IVR
system. Wait times to reach a live crew caller were a problem when it
was new, but now that it has been in the works for years, there should
not be the lengthy on hold times that are occurring!

There are several complaints that have been forwarded to the General
chairman's office bringing to our attention the blatant violation of
the union agreement that allows an employee to call back in 10 minutes
because when selecting to 'REFUSE" a call because you are not
qualified or you aren't sure what the job is and need to ask, the IVR
instructs you to hold while you are transferred to a crew caller then
puts you on hold for 20 minutes or longer.

There have been several crew callers that have put miscalled charges in
the employee's record while they were on hold the entire time trying to
get through and refused to remove them.
MAKE SURE YOU TAKE ALL CALLS ON A PHONE THAT SHOWS WHAT TIME YOU
ANSWERED THE CALL AND HOW LONG THE CALL LASTED.  YOU ARE EXPECTED BY
THE CARRIER TO COMMUNICATE WITH AN AUTOMATED SYSTEM IN PLACE OF A LIVE
CALLER. IF YOU ANSWER THE PHONE IT IS NOT, I REPEAT, NOT A MISSED CALL.
IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE A LIVE PERSON TO BE CONSIDERED MAKING CONTACT FOR
A CALL. IF YOU ARE LEFT ON HOLD BEYOND YOU 10 MINUTES AND ARE THREATENED
AND RECEIVE A MISSED CALL YOU NEED TO FILE ETHIC CHARGES IMMEDIATELY
AGAINST THAT CREW CALLER. MAKE IT VERY CLEAR THAT YOU DID NOT MISS A
CALL FROM CREW MANAGEMENT. YOU WERE CALLED BY THEIR IVR SYSTEM AND
PLACED ON HOLD BEYOND YOU AGREED TIME LIMIT AND THEREFORE YOU
CONTRACTUAL RIGHT WERE VIOLATED BY CSX CREW MANAGEMENT.
THIS IS NOT A JOKE PEOPLE. IT IS GETTING OUT OF CONTROL AND THE WAIT
TIMES AND LACK OF COMMUNICATION IS OUT OF HAND AND FRANKLY SAD AS WELL
AS UNACCEPTABLE BUSINESS PRACTICES. FILE THE CHARGES. ONLY YOU CAN GET
THIS UNDER CONTROL. DONT SIT AROUND BAD MOUTHING YOUR UNIONS WHILE YOU
SIT ON YOUR REARS AND DO NOTHING. NO ONE IS GOING TO DO IT FOR YOU. YOU
PAY DUES DONT YOU???  THEN PUT THEM TO WORK. START FILING THESE CHARGES!

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Name: OFFICIALylost
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 01 May 2016

This was posted yesterday on yard limits and is very interesting reading
for all Norfolk Southern and CSX employees:

Confessions of a former officer
Yesterday, 02:29 PM
Would you folks be interested in hearing "horror" stories, answer
your questions, etc from a former NS officer? I spent many many years,
18+ hour days 6-7 days a week as a Transportation Officer and feel like
I need to expose and enlighten you guys on what I can before I forget it
all. Had an LC tell me once I should write a book. Held out hope for
awhile that I would find my way back into the industry but after the
kool-aid wore off, I'm all set thanks. Been out now for several years
and thankfully have found success in the "real world" since almost
losing everything due to a political misjudgement of just how far some
of the crooks in upper management would go to settle scores. But I
still miss the railroad, I loved my career, its in my blood and I'm so
sad I couldn't have been part of the needed force to reform how they do
business. I was often a hearing officer, charging officer, saturation
team captain, etc so don't think I was one of these fresh out of
college washouts. I ran a profitable, safe, and well greased railroad
before I "left".

To prove I'm for real here is a few tidbits..

1. I used to attend a lot of hiring sessions over the years conducting
interviews and could help potential job seekers out. First and
foremost, DO NOT..under any circumstance admit to using tobacco
products. If you write in your application that you smoke or chew you
will NOT get an invitation to a hiring session. If you get an invite,
DO NOT smoke/chew during breaks as we TMs would go "mingle" outside
and take note on who was smoking and bar them from getting an
interview. Being a casual smoker myself at the time I felt dirty doing
this. But I was explicitly instructed by the HR contractors at sessions
to weed out any and all tobacco users. I also got a real good tongue
lashing one time for hiring a black female after we were verbally told
before the session, "do not hire any women without exception" (that
guy is retired now). This was not an isolated incident and is
reflective on the attitudes of most in higher positions within
transportation at least. To be fair though, shortly before I left there
was a huge push to hire and promote females from Norfolk. The issue I
had with the way that was carried out though is many of the female
officers were completely untouchable. They would have to damn near
murder somebody on the property to get fired. A lot of women officers
were promoted well beyond their abilities and were given a pass every
time they failed to perform. I know of one that was a lead TM and did
not have the slightest idea on how to pull tapes from locos, be a
charging officer in a hearing, and amazingly had no real grasp on the
basic op rules. She was swiftly promoted to terminal supt... I could do
an entire post on how to get hired and/or the ridiculous hypocrisies in
how they promoted/disciplined officers and the enlisted just because of
who they were related to, knew, skin color, etc.

2. I once was having a casual conversation with a wealthy Terminal
Superintendent who was about to retire who was telling me about a tax
"avoidance" scheme that the then current Division Superintendent was
trying to recruit him into that he felt sounded borderline illegal,
think "Panama Papers". Apparently several top executives,
superintendents, etc from BOTH NS and CSX had formed an LLC registered
in Jacksonville, FL that somehow allowed them to avoid their personal
state resident income tax (among others) by establishing residency in
Florida (no state income tax). They formed an LLC called "The Beaver
Street Tower Company" whose public list of directors and members reads
like a who's who at NS and CSX (do your own research). The name of the
LLC is telling as Beaver Street Tower was (is?) a control station were
the CSX and NS interchanged. The mailing address is amazingly the same
address for the CSX HQ and even sharing the same office (C-160) with
the CSX "shareholder account services". I'm no tax or anti-trust
expert but having several top executives from two competitors all
involved in an LLC for many many years sounds suspect to me. While you
and I pay our "fair share" of state taxes, these elite asshats are at
the very least, walking a thin line of legality to avoid 6-8% state
income taxes yet enjoying the same potholed highways you are on. May be
nothing but was always interesting to me to say the least.

3. If you get hurt on the job and cost them money you can safely assume
two things. 1) If they think there is even a small chance that you are
lying and have "lawyer'd up", the Division Superintendent will often
request that an SIU team (special investigations unit) from NS police
conduct surveillance on you 24-7. They dress like magnum P.I. idiots
and use encrypted radio comms like they are MI6 or something. I'm
talking short 80s shorts and Hawaiian tshirts and will stake out your
home, where you workout, out for dinner, dig through your trash,
listening devices, all of it. They buy vans with tinted windows and set
up cameras hoping you will pick up something heavy, mow the yard, lift
weights, etc to keep from having to pay settlements and/or fire you. I
once had an SIU guy so excited about some video he got he came straight
to were I was to show off the grainy video and offered to pick up
celebratory cigars when we confirmed the ID of the subject in the video
who was walking normally after saying he was bed ridden or whatever it
was. 2) One time after an employee got injured I had a GM tell me this
to my face. "In these situations we used to call you and say "you
know what to do" but the office lines are recorded now. Then we had to
start writing "do everything you can to fire Mr. blah blah blah" on a
sheet of paper, slide it across the desk...and once you were through
reading it, shred or burn the paper. Since we know your a team player,
I'm just going to tell you man to man. I want him gone before the end
of the year". We would then review tapes on every trip, listen to all
radio comms, and follow that employee in the bushes until we got
something "meaty" enough to fire them over. Anything that was START
Major material we would come get you like GR-27, GR14, Speeding, etc.
But if you were just doing something small but albeit dangerous, we
would let that slide to not blow our cover until the "big" one. 

4. Every single hearing that I was ever apart of (especially if the
charging officer was lazy, incompetent) the hearing officer, company
witnesses, and charging officer will meet up off property somewhere (we
liked IHOP) and go over the hearing "strategy" step by step, reviewing
exhibits, discussing what to say, what not to say, etc to coach and
steer the often inexperienced charging officer to ensure a strong
hearing in case it goes to the board. During the hearing, whenever
there was a break, the officers texted each other to ensure the stories
were the same under cross examination. The sad part is most of your LCs
know that this goes on but I never heard anyone seriously challenge a
ruling because of it. Trusted hearing officers have a "book" issued
to them called "holding a better discipline hearing", that was
written by LR that you guys should get your hands on if you can. I can
say though, I threw out a charging officer's case more than a handful
of times if I saw it was complete BS or they didn't understand the
rules themselves. I would often (as a charging officer) give the LC and
employee a chance to read all of my exhibits as a sort of "discovery"
even if it wasn't a Stop signal type hearing where the officer has to
do this per regulations. My advice though is take EVERYTHING to a
hearing. Never sign a START form, clog the system up with hearings and
the beating will stop, I guarantee it. On any division, there are MAYBE
4-5 good hearing officers. Everyone else is too incompetent to hold
them. 

5. An officer in transportation is strongly, STRONGLY urged to join the
Freemason order if they weren't already one in order to be promoted
beyond B5 pay level (anyone higher than a terminal superintendent
basically). Several of the GMs and VPs are/were 33 degree masons, some
even flaunted it openly. Not really earth shattering but "illuminati
confirmed" kinda weird

--Snowden
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Name: chhochoo dreamer
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 29 April 2016

I got a good job with mon -fri day shift hours with good benefits and
pay and a lot of time off.My thing is I have always wanted to work for
th rr.Can someone give me some advice on how I can become a freight
conductor with csx or maybe work on the track in some kind of way.Cant
wait to join the rr and work with my future railroad brothers

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Name: Overpaid UP CEO
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 23 April 2016

Lance Fritz is the most overpaid railroad CEO. The only one whose salary
double while overall performance declined. If raises are based on
performance declines, just wait until revenues drop another 30%... then
you will see a $50 million annual salary...and that's not counting
bonuses!

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Name: We want to know!
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 19 April 2016

Railroad Snoops!
Who is the new UP board member who is a stalker on internet that the UP
has hired to snoop the board here? please tell us !  We want to stalk
him and the other board memebers!

Thanks Railroad snoopie!

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Name: Ichan Industries, LLP
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 April 2016

Attention Dennis Duffy (Cotton Belt, Formerly XO):

We are seeking an experienced adviser for a possible leveraged buyout 
(LBO) of a major rail carrier that is substantially undervalued and
mismanaged. We would consider the same legal terms that was arranged 
for another proven adviser who turned-around the Canadian Pacific
Railroad.

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Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 17 April 2016

Actually, it's all very sad.  

Employees are entrusted with thousands of tons of heavy equipment
worth millions of dollars.........

Way, way too much dysfunction & malfunction - within all management &
each & every craft.

It'd take years to correct/fix everything.  It's probably hopeless.

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Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years
Posted: 17 April 2016

I think it's funny how this company demands loyalty from its
employees..especially the union employees. But here's a thought..Treat
your employees well and CSX wouldn't have to demand loyalty. When a
person or company demands loyalty that means they don't deserve it in
the first place. This company has went down so much..Ward and Sanborn
have killed morale. Oh well..investors should part ways with these two
before they ruin things any further.

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Name: Analyst
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 16 April 2016

Union Earnings Report Update:

The whisper numbers are in and it looks like revenue failed 29% and
projected earnings declined another 21% yoy...the stock is rated a
hold, and analyst expects a 52-week trading range of 63-82 dollars a
share.

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