Courtesy and Professional CSX Style

You'll do what yer told, you little &%#$@!!!

    CSX likes to picture itself as a company where all of it's employees, customers, and contractors are treated with the highest levels of courtesy, professionalism, and respect. The employees, customers, and contractors know differently....

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Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years
Posted: 29 July 2016

I like things documented. It is a PITA but every time I have failed to
do so I have regretted it. If e-mail than send it twice, and send
different ways to different addresses. CSX e-mail to the other end,
copy to BOTH your home e-mails, copy to union folks, probably certified
paper e-mail, consider a tiny voice recorder, preferably with phone
adapter. Preferably have someone review and correct grammar / spelling.
If it is known that you have things well documented other folks pay
attention. You might even create 2 seperate e mail accounts (1 yahoo, 1
g mail, etc.)and use them just for RR stuff storage. Log in every so
often to keep account up to date. Write longer accounts that can
clearly be read and understood by an outsider, not just the other
side.Keep a little notebook AND PEN.put in zip lock bag. Idea is
survivability always.

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Name: JAD
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 1-10 years
Posted: 29 July 2016

Conductor furloughed

This company is so screwed up right now that it is not the least bit
surprising that you are in this mess. The IVR is a joke right now and
wont allow anyone to use its main menu properly. Every time they start
making changes to any of the format it goes to hell. If you can hold
any job and are being denied your seniority right to make that move,
watch all those jobs carefully. If anyone, whether they are more senior
or not works those jobs, then that proves they were still active jobs
and were not in the process of being abolished. You are entitled pay
for each day someone works them and you were not allowed to make a move
to them. You can also file ethics charges for deliberately being singled
out by the company to be put in furlough and cause you a hardship and
the inability to earn an income while you still had seniority rights.
Forget your LC. This is a call that needs to go directly to your
general chairman.

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Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 20-30 years
Posted: 28 July 2016

Call your LC and tell him what you just told us.

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Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 27 July 2016

quick question for the csx vets here.... i am in my forth year as a
conductor as csx and have just been furloughed "again" haha  but this
time there are bids that I can hold but my bid card is deactivated so
there is just open bids laying there   and as of now no one can help or
explain to me  ie union    can anyone here help or give me a contact?
thanks guys

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Name: Hadenough
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 26 July 2016



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Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 25 July 2016

A company that abuses any system the FRA or unions put in writing
intimidation and harassment is all there about put fear in hard working
men it going to hit um in the ass some day I work here and to be honest
they don't even pay you for a day's work they Denie you  its has be
illegal to not pay a man his day work this is why unions got started
they think we're Chinese workers like  the 1800 read your history FRA
it's back to then they play the system to drag it on so us employees
should be made like  animals bury you when there done  1800 I'm tellna
 ya read the history

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Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 25 July 2016

How can you possibly figure someone like the late Cornelius Vanderbilt
was great???    Assholes like him & they way they treated the public,
employees/workers, rail customers, etc., are the cause\ real reason
the former ICC was created, unions were formed & a lot of federal
legislation regarding RRs was enacted.

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Name: Corrupt Union Bosses
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 24 July 2016

It seems as if all the management problems needs to be addressed by your
union officers...but they are just as corrupt and immoral as management.
So what do you do? Keep complaining on this site and hope that it gets
better! It's not going to happen at all!!!

There's only TWO (2) things management understands that gets their
attention: Lawsuits and trains not moving.

The late great Cornelius Vanderbilt was an Industrialist without any
formal education, who understood the legal system he detested.
He once stated to a rival that: you might win in a legal tussle, but I
will destroy your business with delays on top of delays.

On paragraph (2), the later is always viable. You all just have to
figure out how without stating the obvious!

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Employed as: Brakeman, for 20-30 years
Posted: 24 July 2016

with record heat, high humidity and dew points in the 70s on csx
northern region, csx terminal managers and train masters thinks its ok
to keep crews working 4 to 5 plus straight hours outside without a
break. even thought this quarters safety video is about working in the
heat outside safely. all trainmasters who do this ought to be ashamed
of themselves who put productivity and car counts over employee safety
and wellbeing. unfortunately this practice will continue until some one
has to got to the hospital with heat exhaustion or die from heat stroke
and I hope then someone sues the shit ought of this shit hole company.
I don't know how you southern boys do it working in this oppressive
heat, but I got a lot more respect for yous now.

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Name: Mediator
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 10-20 years
Posted: 20 July 2016


Time to figure out what is bothering the company man sooooo much.
Lets see now.... I believe it all started around July 9th when our so
called MR. Pines showed up to distract everyone. He began by making
pokes at someone posting on the safety site with unrelated safety
topics.  At that time the subjects at hand were as follows:

1: Labor relations denial of claims due to totally screwed up
information gathered from the company GPS
2: Serious conduct unbecoming of company officials and the cover up of
a banner test going seriously wrong.
3: Blackmail of arbitrators
4: Links being posted to retrieve PLB awards
5: Intimidation and harassment in the work place.

We are pretty sure he was the one who posted the comment:  I hate this
site. I love csx.  He did manage to draw L&N into his little web if
deceit. For some reason he always does. Starting to look like they
might be working together. How could someone fall for his stupidity so
many times????

The real Mr. Pines is out of commission!  We all hope to god this
character is not an offspring from Mr. Pines. God knows we don't need
a repeat of the years of ranting and raving from the other mentally
lost soul!

Mr. Pines imposter. 
We all are quite aware of the horrific train wreck that occurred in
Texas. There is no need for a heated discussion on this website about
it. You are obviously not a true railroader!!!!!
If you were, you would understand the pain and grief that all
railroaders feel for another who has lost their life. We ALL FEEL THE
not even begin to feel what we do. It hits all of un in our guts when
we begin to imagine what they were going through in the last minutes of
their life. We have all had that one moment when we thought that our
train may not get stopped or slowed down at a red signal or for a slow
order. We have all felt that moment when we are approaching a stop for
a work authority and we cant get ahold of the forman in charge. Its
something in the pit of our stomachs you could never understand. NO ONE
GOES OUT THEIR TO GET KILLED! Unfortunately no one will ever know the
truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth because the witnesses
aren't here to tell their side. GOD REST THEIR SOULS!
Show some respect or move on to another foamer site.

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Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 19 July 2016

Eviel is the right word

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Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 18 July 2016


My locale:  From early 1979 to early 1995 - NO new hires.

Bottom Line \ Point \ Question is:    Does this company (and all the
investors) truly want to operate an efficient, prosperous RAILROAD or
not?   Evidently NOT.   Sad.

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Buy the webmaster a beer! Or a coffee!
Or a book! Or send cash!
Help keep this site alive!

www.CSX-Sucks.com - Sticking it to the man since 2001

Name: TECH
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 10-20 years
Posted: 18 July 2016


People need to face the facts.  When a company puts thousands of
dollars into a training school there has to be something done to recoup
 the expenses. It cant sit empty. It is no different than a college. No
students, no school and no government grants. If you have never been to
the school in Atlanta you should see if you can take a tour. Its isn't
just a little building. Its not just a hole in the wall. You cant just
hire people off the streets and send them through this school like an
average every day college. The railroad cant afford the time or money
to school someone for the job just to send them packing until they need
to call them back. If they are on the street too long they have to
retrain. Its the company policy. Thats throwing bad money behind bad
again. Several instructors lost their positions at the school and had
to go back into their craft in the field. Not good for the school.

The point is that there will have to be a reduction in the workforce to
justify opening up the school for new hires in T&E. YOU CAN BET YOUR
BOTTOM DOLLAR that it will be done with employees being fired or pulled
out of service for extremely lengthy times. A turn over rate is a must.
New hires are told when they are done with schooling that if they are
furloughed longer than a year the company DOES NOT HAVE TO CALL THEM
BACK! This is something that the wonderful unions agreed upon. Yeah....
insane but true. If the company can hold off long enough to let those
furloughed run the one year course, then the seats can be filled with
new blood. One way or another the investors are going to want something
done with the school and the money they are throwing into a black hole.
Managers are instructed to hand out failures each month. No matter how
much they deny they are told to "get the failures or else" it is
happening.  Everyone better expect it to get worse.

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Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 17 July 2016

Started my RR career in OCT., 1974.  Almost done.

Liked construction work but things were real slow.
At the time, needed a job.  Pay was 3 bucks less per hr.
than what I earned prior. Had to take it.  

C&O\B&O.   Chessie System.  CSX Transportation.

Never been employee friendly. Entire career always
threatened with being fired.  Is nothing new. 

Seems even worse now days.  CSX can't figure out that if it wants to
survive & prosper as a RAILROAD, slack off on the schooling, the petty
crap, & concentrate more on moving freight using confident, competent,
experienced employees.  

CSX culture has needed to change for quite a while now & it hasn't.
Evidently management doesn't care AND\OR they have a plan.

Usually the way it is:  management plans things, oftentimes for years
in advance & the workers & their unions can only play catch-up.

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Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years
Posted: 17 July 2016

again, use your time at CSX to prepare for your next job and a real
career. Save $$$, don't buy house, new car, overspend, etc. Focus on a
long term career, get as many on line tuition credits as possible, and
prepare for bail out when YOUR Titanic sinks. You have no excuse for
surprise at the likely outcome. You just don't know the day the
iceberg shows up. Folks are giving you straight information. Your
career is REALLY your responsibility, not the HR / Labor Relations

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Name: Noel
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 17 July 2016


I understand the situation your in.   You're looking for a career, 
good paying job, great retirement benefits.....   Don't believe the
lies CSX spews.  I hate to use the word evil, but I know of no other
word to use when it comes to CSX and their management.

I think of the story I heard when I was little.  Jesus standing on the
mount and the devil promising him the world if he would bow before him
and worship him. (Matthew 4:1-11 NKJV).  CSX does the same thing.  
They will promise you riches beyond imagine if you will sell your soul
and work for them, only to turn around and steal it all back each and
every payday, then spend each and every day trying to fire you, to make
their quota of people on the street.  

To quote Darth Vader "come over to the dark side".  Employees openly
call those in management, The Dark Side.   CSX will tell you what you
need to hear to get what they want from you, then leave you alone and
hanging when they no longer need you, or the situation wasn't to
CSX's benifit.  The school will tell you that the train master is your
buddy and pal, and that the engineers are old bitter men trying to get
you fired.  This is far from the truth.   If you screw up, the entire
crew goes down with you, so it's to your engineers benifit to keep you
safe, and help you do your job correctly.

If I had to do it over again, I would not have come to CSX.  Out of the
43 people that I hired in with, they're only 3 of us left.  Some of us
have been fired, some have quit, most are on furlough status.  If you
can't find a job at CSX with in 1 years time, you're fired.   It
doesn't matter that CSX has gotten rid of the Division you're on, or
that guys with 25 years can't hold jobs.  If you don't find a job,
you are gone.

Weigh the pros and cons.  You'll realize CSX isn't the railroad that
Management claims it to be, when they're selling you on the idea of
going through their school.  When all you want is a career, realize
that all CSX wants is the money they'll receive from the Federal
Government for the first year that they hired you.  After that, you're
gone too.

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Name: Remington
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 17 July 2016

PA conductor want-too-bee

Don't waste your time coming to CSX.   The post below says it all. Go
for The Money.  

At CSX, as a licensed engineer, I average $22.00/an hour.   Last I
heard, new hire conductors at Canadian National start at $35 an hour,
with a 10 hour guarantee every time they step on the property.   

Because CSX has turned all of the yard jobs into jobs that are run by
remote engines, I have to work on the road.  I literally live on the
road and spend over 280 days a year either sleeping on an engine, or
the cheapest hotel room CSX can find, in the worst part of most towns. 
 I have missed more of my families birthdays, holidays, sporting events,
funerals and wedding anniversaries than I care to think of.   

With that said.   Once CSX took over the section of the rail that I
work on, I make significantly less than the old heads that I worked
with in the 70's and 80's.   The young guys behind me, make even less
than I do.   Today with both union's selling us out to CSX for their
personal gain, and leaving those of us that pay their salaries out to
dry, absolutely would not recommend working for CSX.   If you're heart
is set on working for a railroad.   Good for you.   Just don't let it
be the one that will lie to you, to get you hired on then spend the
rest of your career trying to fire you.

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Name: John Deere
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 17 July 2016

New Conductor Want to be

There is a reason that CSX is the only class one railroad that has a
sux site.   There's also a reason that when Tony Ingram left NS that
the job insurance companies quit selling job insurance to CSX
employees, and started selling it again to NS employee's.   

Here's a few things to know.  Would I recommend a railroad career to
anyone?  Yes. Especially if you can get on with CN. 

Do I recommend working for CSX?   Absolutely NOT

What is the retention rate for new employee's, both T&E and Management
at CSX?  

20%.  That's right, 20%. 8 out of every 10 employees that you hire in
with will on longer be employees at your one year anniversary date.

Why is CSX pushing for new employee's when they have guys on the
Huntington Division that can't hold jobs and are sitting on the street
with 25 years of senority?   

Because CSX collects money from the Obama Administration for training
you.   CSX claims their classes are "job retraining" classes, and the
Federal Government happily writes the checks.  Last I heard, CSX got
over $50,000 for "retraining" each military veteran. Civilians in the
upper $30,000, lower $40,000 range.  One of the caviots was that CSX
has, is that CSX has to keep the new employee for 1 year.

What happens after this one year?   

Same thing that happened before the Federal Government put this caviot
in.  As soon as CSX has collected all of the money they can from the
Federal Government for hiring you, you're gone. 

Why should CSX keep you?   

After one year you're costing CSX money, not making them money.  This
is bad business for a company that has stockholders who demand that
upper management makes money for the company, and whose pay is directly
tied to stock dividends.  If CSX fires you, or make you so miserable
that you'll quit, they can hire another person, run them through the
school, and as long as Obama is in office, collect another $50,000 plus
for training your replacement. 

At the training school CSX will tell you that the Train Masters are
your buddies and have your back, are they really told to get rid of 80%
of the new hires by years end?  

Yes.  If they don't it's either your job or theirs.   When a train
master has to chose between you having a job and feeding his family or
yours, who is he going to chose?   (And yes, they openly admit that
after they fire the first few people, it becomes easier and easier to
fire new hires for frivolous charges over time.  You're just a number,
and firing you becomes part of the job)

Personally I don't care what you do. You're going to do what you're
going to do. I see new people come and go so quickly anymore, I don't
even to bother to learn their names until they've been around for a
while.  Here's my suggestion, look through this website and a few
others.   Yardlimits.com comes to mind, and there are several others.  
Look around, and you'll understand what railroading is like, and why
CSX is the only class one to have a sucks site.

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Name: Broke
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 16 July 2016


Go with the money. Csx is the lowest paying class1 railroad in the
country. If your going to sell your sole go for the money.  Learn to
type of you will never get paid.

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Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 16 July 2016

I'm planning to be a conductor (& then locomotive engineer) next year
and I live right near the NS Pittsburgh Line and I don't live that far
from Connellsville,PA where CSX has a freight yard in.  I actually want
to work for NS, but I know a someone who got hired by CSX after being
rejected by NS in 2014.   Since then, he tries talking me into working
for CSX and he doesn't mention every bad thing CSX has ever done. 
It's like he's been brainwashed by CSX, but I'm not sure if CSX is a
good company to work for since he's pushing this agenda onto me.  I
never met any actual NS guys yet, but I just read forums from the
mid-2000's about how NS used to treat people like crap.  

 I just would like to learn about who's the lesser of the two evils
and I just want to make the right choice for my railroad career.

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