Safety First

Rule #1 -- Don't get hurt.

    Safety is the first priority. Er, or is it the second, after money.... Or the third after getting the trains out....

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Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years
Posted: 10 February 2016

IIRC Sandborn's father died of a heart attack while on duty as the new
president of ConRail. I don't think he had a son, so Cindy has to be
the son that becomes the RR president FWIW.

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Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years
Posted: 08 February 2016

I'm hearing Ward and Sanborn are fighting for their jobs right now. If
the investors want to see good to average results better show these two
the door. Employee morale is at an all time low so when this happens it
effects everything from results, efficiency, safety, and ethics. When
an employee is concerned about their job everyday where do you think
their mind is at? I expect an higher injury rate and more accidents to
occur in this climate. So go ahead and keep these two clown in, go
ahead and cut more jobs and close more terminals, service less
customers because of lack of manpower. If the investors keep these
people in they deserve the poor results they will get

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Name: Retired Now
E-mail: hoch-mitch@hotmail.com
Employed as: APE, for 30+ years
Posted: 07 February 2016

"Anti-union opinions are from people who are want-to-be company
officials."     Ignorance is bliss.

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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 07 February 2016

The Union's will whack you every month for the MONEY. Hopefully one day
in the future we will still have two robots on the engine looking ahead.
I see the Leader program, and the Optimizer that the BLE is starting to
fight, the UTU is still a sleep. Good god how bad are the unions. Stop
paying them. A new engineer to the right seat has a very limited life
span, the skill is gone. Has anyone on this site run a thru train with
the Optimizer? 
The 2 person crew will be --work the branch or local.
One day the RR will be Union free, and the employees will love being a
part of the company.

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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 05 February 2016

Is true - weaker union, weaker safety  Hear it day in day out. 
safety problem - don't do much help at all, just bitch to the union
guy.  has time to tak care of everything.  Should only one is
complaining not a bunch the thing will get fixed today.  Bitchers
complainers never any help.  Safety first.

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Name: Retired Now
E-mail: hochi_mitch@hotmail.com
Employed as: APE, for 30+ years
Posted: 05 February 2016

Safety First?
What would happen to that if the rail unions - their legislative,
political depts. were weakened or lost?   The RRs would love that.

Complaints about unions are warranted, but hell, RRers bitch about
everything. Sure, big-shot union heads have been corrupt or inept -
caught & answered for it or are\were voted out of office. 

Agreement, contract give backs, job losses?  
Railroaders and their unions "featherbedded" as much as they could
for as long as they could. [Politics have played rolls in that.]   

All too many RR employees march around, spouting off, usually don't
know true facts, and those are the 1st ones to come crawling for union
help if/when they get into a jam.  Or, would be the 1st to cross a
picket line if they encountered one.  
{Alligator mouths, hummingbird butts.}

Any member can run for a union position if they want to. Do a better
job, change things, etc.   Put up or shut up - most complainers shut up
when confronted with that.

Anti-union opinions are from people who are want-to-be company

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Name: union democracy
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 20-30 years
Posted: 01 February 2016

All dues paying members

The previous post is 100% correct. You do not have to pay any of the
dues that go towards political fund raising, promotions, elections,
support, etc... If you are really interested in knowing your rights as
a union member in the United States you need to read the LMRDA. If you
think you have to sit around and wait 3 years for your union to resolve
claim issues you have been advised wrong. Guidelines for your unions to
act according are within the LMRDA. Yes, you have the right to sue your
union and seek your own legal counsel. The members are their own worst
enemies. They decide who is elected. They have protection from
corruption within their unions under federal law. GET EDUCATED!

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Name: UnionsShouldWorkForYou
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 30+ years
Posted: 01 February 2016

Have the UTU/BLE Disappointed you AGAIN? Do you think they should be
fighting for your benefits/rights as an employee, not giving away
everything at each contract? Do you feel that even if we cant "get
something better" at each contract then the Unions should just
maintain what we have instead of trading it away for small, taxable
"bonuses"? Do you think the Union Leadership is working for THEIR
best interests, not yours (which is why the BLE/UTU merger never
happened!)? Do you feel YOU have NO POWER against this??!! NO, NO, NO!!
YOU HAVE POWER!!! You might ask, "well I am forced to be in the Union
even if I don't want to be and/or they aren't a strong- member
focused Union anymore".......it is true, the Rail Labor Act keeps
railroaders in Unions and you have no choice about joining- HOWEVER YOU
have the RIGHT to REFUSE to pay all of your hard earned paycheck to
these increasingly corrupt rail Unions and their backroom deals and
disrespect of their membership. That's right, you can become what's
called a "non-consenting member". This means you refuse to
participate in the Union(s) as a full dues paying member, instead you
are put on their books as being in the Union but only pay a small
portion of dues that are related to the collective bargaining
agreement. All of the MAJORITY of the dues which go to lobbying,
political functions, paying leadership etc.- will not be charged to
you. Actually dues drop to the range of $12-$25/mo. Now you cant vote
on the contracts, cant go to meetings, cant use any "benefits" and
cant do pretty much anything with the Union. By LAW they are still to
defend you if you get in trouble/discipline. Why am I telling you all
of this? Not to destroy Unions or tell you not to want to be in one,
but to PROTEST the Unions behavior and effect a change in them. Money
is the only thing that gets people like these to respond to our demands
and cutting off their flow will wake them up. If entire
locations/workplaces all did this at the same time it would send a
message surely. This is almost like striking on the Union itself, only
with its money (dues). Will this type of action be harsh? Absolutely.
Will some people call participators "traitors" and "Union haters"?
100% likely! But when people stand around and do nothing to defend
themselves, they will be stripped of their lives and liberty  surely.
Please consider protesting the Unions anti-membership behaviors and
become "Non-consenting Members" to make them realize OUR voice the
MEMBERS are who they answer to! The Unions are required to post your
right to do this action, they usually put it in a small blurb once a
year in their newsletters/magazines. They claim you can only put an
application in once a year to do this but you have the right to do it
anytime you like, there has been upheld legal precedents for it

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Name: cond
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 01 February 2016


I sure the hell hope so because someone in the dispatch center is
getting out of control! When you hit 3 detectors that give you an axle
count of 28 over what you should have on your work order and you keep
toning them up to tell them they get shitty and tell you quit calling
them and they will let you know if you got a discrepancy and to keep
running. ran the entire trip without one word on the extra cars. We
find out later that we had hazmats and they didn't tell us a thing
about them.  That would have been a good night for the fra to stop and
board so go over the ct168 with us.  That was a bunch of covered up

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Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years
Posted: 01 February 2016

recent WSJ article (front page of second section?) said FRA is charging
much higher fines than before, supposedly cracking down.

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Name: hogger
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 29 January 2016


Got a csx engine that had those inward facing cameras on it and they
were mounted right in the middle of my console on top of the computer
screens, Pointing right at your face annoying the hell out of you. They
were also right in your line of view and when I tried to move the seat
over so I could see around it I couldn't get the seat over far enough.
 I had to scoot over in the seat and sit on the damn side of it. That's
hard as hell on your back and screws the hell out of proper back
support. Called my lc and he said call the FRA and report it to them
and in the mean time he's going to make a report to the General
chairman.  You guys get one of these engines you need to turn it in to
the fra and your lc.  This is bullshit.. Someones going to end up
getting a back injury riding in a seat like that and being distracted
by that thing 2 feet in front of your face pointing right at you....

Retard who mounted them like that needs to be fired!

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Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 28 January 2016

UTU has no backbone!!! And CSX employees are forced to pay them for
nothing. All they have done is loose jobs, loose bonuses, loose demand
days, and loose stock shares for there employees. Keep up the terrible
job UTU. UTU will probably have robots running trains by the end of the

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Employed as: APE, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 January 2016

If any railroader votes for a Democrat you deserve what you get..Fuck
the UTU and the Democrats..especially the one in DC.

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Name: Sluggo
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 27 January 2016

I think the mot amazing thing is that this company has any customers
with the shitty service they provide.  The customers have to provide
capacity because they've dropped the scheduled trains for "whenever
we fill up a monster" schedule.  They oversold the panic over the PTC
deadline, so I think a lot of contracts were made for alternate
transit, and now we have to hope those customers come back.  The oil
traffic is always going to be ebb and flow, going with the prices.  If
I was 30+ deep on the furloughs, I'd look for another career, and tear
up any recall these assholes send.  For the fifty eight time, CSX will
try to cut its way to prosperity.  Has worked yet, has weakened our
position with every round.  Extremely slow learners, this gang.

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Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 27 January 2016

Freight traffic is down, coal shipments aren't what they used to be
& never may be again, the oil -- seems just another short term thing.
What's your real point?  Expect any company to pay employees to stand
around with one thumb up their butt & the other just holding a broom?

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Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years
Posted: 24 January 2016

well Avon is supposed to be the cheapest yard on CSX, and before that
the cheapest on Con Rail. Problem is: if you are already the most
economical yard, what do you cut NOW to show you are still reducing
even more, to keep up with 'the plan'. Traditionally the RR kept a
few jobs 'in the pocket' to run until you have to cut. That way you
cut a little fat, and save the bone. What do they have to cut at Avon?
I have heard they might try to go to 1 yardmaster per shift. Since they
can't retain yardmasters anyway this might help. (Isn't that a red
flag for poor management if you can't retain your employees?). Are
they still planning the remote control GPS Kubota at the hump to
'drive" crews around. Lockeed-Martin (builder of the ultra expensive
and failure prone F-35) are the designers of this super costly and
complex system imposed on a circa 1900 company.

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Name: laugh
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 21 January 2016


That's all and good but when you go down for speeding the company will
tell you that the gps gizmo you were using wasn't approved for use by
the company and therefore you cant use it in your investigation your
screwed any way.   This is a subject that should be handled by the fra
and the US department of transportation. Your congressman should be
involved as well. Running dangerous and hazardous freight across the
country with motors that don't provide adequate equipment to protect
the crews and the public is dangerous. Getting up and down for 200
miles or asking the engineer the whole damn trip how fast he is going
is bull shit. Wouldn't be that hard for them to run a cable across the
cab along the roof to the conductors side and put a speedo in. Just to
cheap to do it and don't give a crap.

Want a laugh..... Had a speedo go out above 35. Bounced all over the
place. Had 75 miles left to run. Told dispatch we would be running 30
to be on the safe side. He says NO YOU WONT!  I want you running track
speed. You have your conductor use his watch and time your speed. I
said You want the conductor to stare at his watch and out the window
for 75 miles trying to watch every mile post and try to guess that Im
doing 50 the whole 75 miles. He says yes that's what his watch is for!
 So I then tell him I want the chief on the radio because I need
permission to speed because the company doesn't have a single measured
mile marker for the next 75 miles documented as accurate in the
timetable and we aren't going to be held responsible for all the ones
that are wrong and Im not running faster until I got permission to
speed!   He got real quiet for a sudden then says.....Run 30 out!

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Name: LC
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 21 January 2016

Great Lakes

Hold on to your money guys. Management members just had a big meeting
and word is the entire meeting consisted of nothing other than
discussions on how to cut more jobs.  Avon yard was the biggest topic.
So don't be stupid and blow your money on anything expensive. The
company is putting motors into storage as we speak.

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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 20 January 2016

Really nice post. 
This is something that the UNION can do for you. You have to ask them
to do it, because they are only into collecting dues. Simple stick on
GPS would do that all of the time and every time. If I was running you
would sit down, be quiet, and stay awake.

nuary 2016

Retired FRA
Hey...do you still read this site?????  Does anyone know what the fra
law is that requires csx to have working speedometers and how accurate
they have to be to protect the crew.  How about having one on the
conductors side so he can see how fast the engineer is going and not
have to ask him every 5 seconds or get up and walk over to see how
he is going. Getting up and down out of the seat every other minute is
starting to wear my legs out and it's also breaking the rule that
say's your supposed to stay seated while in the cab when its running.
Got to be some kind of law to protect the conductor on this crap! With
the new cameras are they going to bust us if we keep getting up and
walking over to the other side of the cab to see how fast we are going?

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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 20 January 2016

This is to the Engineer on an Eastbound Freight going through East
Palmyra New York 1-20-2016 about 1:30 p.m. I was sitting at the
crossing waiting for you to pass when I noticed the 3rd to 4th last car
in your train had blue smoke pouring out of one of the back wheel
bearings, it passed the hot box detector on the other track and as it
hit the crossing it burst into flames !!!!I called the # on the
crossing signal and had to listen to the recording for at least a
minute before I could reach anyone, by that time a Westbound freight
was passing so I hope he notified you... . As I was sitting there
watching you go by I noticed all the tank cars with the LP propane gas
writing on them, when I saw the wheel burst into flames I went SHIT !!!
I hope you made out all right and nothing happened to you or your train.
I was finally able to reach someone and tell them, I told him that you
were probably halfway to lyons by that time.....

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