You'll do what yer told, you little &%#$@!!!     CSX likes to picture itself as a company where all of it's employees, customers, and contractors are treated with the highest levels of courtesy, professionalism, and respect. The employees, customers, and contractors know differently....

Webmaster's note: Since I go through the server logs regularly, I just thought I'd take this opportunity to point out that all of the comments in defense of the company seem to come from Jacksonville, while complaints come from everywhere that the company does business. You do the math.

Name: fedup
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Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 18 November 2008

I over heard a conversation between 2 officials last week about the
revenue made from 1 loaded coal train, a 100 car train carrying around
14,000 tons is worth 1.5 million, wow, and these cheap bastards have
the nerve to rob us. the ones who are expected to load and move and do
paper work on this cash cow, any body that thinks this company feels
for you needs medicated, as for me, Ill medicate them(csx management)
as much as I can, mainly with loaded suppositories.

Name: Long Haired Redneck E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years Posted: 18 November 2008 Wanting information on the following officials and why they have been sent to the coalfields if anyone has this info.......Did they screw up somewhere else,came in with the new leadership,etc........? Brian Stussie, Adam Hawkins,Danny Jarrel, Frulla,Bill Setser, and any other GESTAPO , NAZI Style cronies you know have came to Huntington division.......... Would also like to know what pushes their buttons besides being denied respect and any personal info that may allow someone to mess with their pride, such as anything in their past... like discriminatory practices with our work force or with men's spouses

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 18 November 2008 Hey Con 10-20: Romper Room...that's pretty good, Maybe they can sing Kumbaya too! I addressed the TCI/3G's agenda early last spring when they announced their intentions so you'll get no argument from me. Just keep in mind that the one man crew has been discussed since at least 2000 and CSX has been selling off parts of the system since day one. Additionally, CSX has positioned themselves to sell off entire Divisions when they announced the decentralization of dispatching last fall. The Unions have been dying a slow death for the last 3 or 4 agreements. All of this has occurred long before any one ever heard of TCI or 3G. I can best describe CSX today as a sow's ear. Whether it's TCI/3G or CSX trying to sell, nobody will pay top dollar for a piece of a sow's ear. Increasing production and reducing costs comes from improving efficiencies. I read a system notice back in late '01 or early '02 that stated CSX spent $300 million in cab fares the previous year. Also, just think about the printer paper wasted...and the list goes on and on and on. As long as the current CSX management continues to brow beat the contract employees nothing positive will happen. Before change happens CSX must treat the contract employees as equals. In the final analysis, it's the contract employees that make or break CSX. As far as TCI and 3G goes, with the world wide economy tanking, they both have serious problems of their own and may not be around long enough to do anything...at least both principals have a nice cushy board seat to fall back on!

Name: Former NO&M Engineer E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 18 November 2008 I've always heard about this site but ironic as it may appear this is actually my first time really reading alot of the posts here. Nevertheless, I agree with a vast majority of what has been expressed here regarding CSX. Some things mentioned here are wayyyy over the top in delivery, but hilarious nevertheless. Well having said all of that I FINALLY made the decision to resign from this company recently, and my only regret thusfar is not submitting my resignation form 8 to 9 years ago. If you work for this company then you already are fully aware of the deplorable conditions/policies that you're subject to adhere to from CSX, so I will not engage in any "last or final insults" or anything of that nature....however I will say that there are "greener pastures" else where and that you should begin to explore any available options as ticket away from this place if you are truly unhappy as I often was while at CSX. Anyway I wish you all the best and good luck to all of you. If any NO&M subdivision guys are reading this I enjoyed working with all of you and hope that conditions improve for yall. Peace!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 18 November 2008 TO CONDUCTOR 10 TO 20 YEARS;YOU HAVE IT 100% RIGHT t c i will do exactly what you said and you are also right about the U T U which will not even be a union further alone in the future. everyone will be a engineer so who would even thing about paying dues to a union who is known to sell people out.i know i was in this union for 40 years.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 17 November 2008 NoMo: Just how do you think TCI will "increase production and reduce costs"? Well, it will not come from "improving morale", Jesus Crist what do you think this is Romper Room? Where everybody will hold hands and just get along. The hedge funds could care less about you, me or anybody else connected to CSX. They are going to push layoffs across the board (thru one man crews), sell off portions of the RR and then ask for wage and pension concessions. And don't think the UTU won't go along with it, Broken Rail has sold his soul to TCI and will be living in the Bahamas (with James Stem rubbing suntan oil on his hairy back) when it is all said and done.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 17 November 2008 Hey Con 30+: I agree with your take on TCI/3G. However, I believe before they can "enhance value" they must increase production and reduce costs. In order for them to do that, they must improve the morale of the contract employees to get labor and management on the same page...until they do that they're just pissin' in the wind! Besides, like the rest of the hedges, both TCI and 3G have their own liquidity problems...if they haven't already started selling their stake in CSX the might have to!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 17 November 2008 T C I did not get their people on the board to help working employees you can forget that. their only concerns is money. when they get enough stock and strengh in C S X you will see some changes just like Obama you will see changes all for the worst.if you think a foreign investment company cares what happens to you and your morale you had better think again.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 17 November 2008 I WANNA KNOW WHEN THESE NEWLY APPOINTED TCI FUND PEOPLE ARE GONNA CLEAN HOUSE IN MANAGEMENT? GET RID OF WARD, INGRAM, AND BROWN, WE WANT TO START MOVING FREIGHT AND BRING BACK MORALE.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 15 November 2008 It only gets better! CSX Announces Key Appointment, Retirement JACKSONVILLE, Fla., Nov 14, 2008 /PRNewswire-FirstCall via COMTEX News Network/ -- CSX Corporation (NYSE: CSX) today announced the appointment of Lisa Mancini as senior vice president -- human resources and labor relations. Mancini will report to Michael J. Ward, chairman, president and CEO. She succeeds Robert J. Haulter, who is retiring on December 31, 2008, after a distinguished 35-year career. "Bob Haulter has been a major contributor to the vision, values and success of our company over the past several years," said Ward. "We are fortunate to have an experienced leader who can continue that progress." Mancini has served as the chief operating officer of the San Francisco Municipal Railway, deputy executive director of the San Francisco Municipal Transportation Agency, and a key operating executive for the Southeastern Pennsylvania Transportation Authority. She joined CSX in 2003 and was named vice president-labor relations in 2004. Over the past year, she has been leading CSX's efforts to create public-private partnerships to achieve transportation solutions throughout the country. CSX Corporation, based in Jacksonville, Fla., is one of the nation's leading transportation companies, providing rail, intermodal and rail-to-truck transload services. The company's transportation network spans approximately 21,000 miles, with service to 23 eastern states and the District of Columbia, and connects to more than 70 ocean, river and lake ports. More information about CSX Corporation and its subsidiaries is available at the company's web site, http://www.csx.com .

Name: E-mail: Employed as: CSX Customer, for N/A Posted: 14 November 2008 i guess everone knows by now that C s X AND three other railroads has a class-action suit against them for illegally fixing fuel surcharges to their customers. this has been going on for quite some time coal freight charges has double in the last two years so therefore your electic bills has gone up a lot all their big profits and less hauling has come from these high rate on freight that you and i have been paying for.look out railroad stock i thinkk you will lose even if you pay off without going to court.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 13 November 2008 Hey Con 1-10: Don't know anything for sure...the Boyles boys must be under a gag order. The CSX Special Agent called it an assault and didn't volunteer too much and I didn't ask. I did hear that he was having sex with another man's wife. Whether or not he did it, or one of Spenser's many other admirers did it, I don't know. Poor, poor little Danny Spenser...wonder if he learned a lesson. Some of these guys think they're invisible...but they're not bullet proof!

Name: E-mail: http://truth.greatnuke.net Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 13 November 2008 NoMo: What do ya know about that official who got his butt whooped? Looking to hear the story behind that one, also looking forward to more of em getting their butt whooped....Setser.......

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year Posted: 13 November 2008 Hello All, Could anyone shed some light on the hiring process timeline? If a job closes and/or has a "please respond to this job posting by -X- date", about how long after the job closing will it take for CSX to contact a candidate for an interview? Any new-hires and/or potential new hires out there receive an email and/or phone call invite to interview before the job closed online, or shortly thereafter? Thanks All, A Potential Candidate

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year Posted: 13 November 2008 Thanks for the post NoMo, that video made my day!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 13 November 2008 yes, you are right albert einstine, only black and white i thought it was supposed to be diversified.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 12 November 2008 I hope you enjoy this as much as I did. http://video.google.com:80/videoplay?docid=-2487638612433437293&q=Vetera

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 12 November 2008 what managers are you talking about, you have got to see the picture with the pink bunny, then you will know. it is fuuuuunnnnnnyyyyy. all you need is a first name and a face i guess.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 12 November 2008 Diversity? ha ha, please don't make me laugh. Is this a joke? This has to be a joke.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 12 November 2008 diversity my ass, you have to see the newport news crew go ahead and count?

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 12 November 2008 How come Csx calls trains for say 1800 and does not have you out of the yard til say 2145? hmmmmmmm Mr Ingram where do you find your Managers at?

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 12 November 2008 The 5 minute management course Lesson 1: A man is getting into the shower just as his wife is finishing up her shower, when the doorbell rings. The wife quickly wraps herself in a towel and runs downstairs. When she opens the door, there stands Bob, the next-door neighbor. Before she says a word, Bob says, 'I'll give you $800 to drop that towel.' After thinking for a moment, the woman drops her towel and stands naked in front of Bob, after a few seconds, Bob hands her $800 and leaves. The woman wraps back up in the towel and goes back upstairs. When she gets to the bathroom, her husband asks, 'Who was that?' 'It was Bob the next door neighbor,' she replies. 'Great,' the husband says, 'did he say anything about the $800 he owes me?' Moral of the story: If you share critical information pertaining to credit and risk with your shareholders in time, you may be in a position to prevent avoidable exposure. Lesson 2: A priest offered a Nun a lift. She got in and crossed her legs, forcing her gown to reveal a leg. The priest nearly had an accident. After controlling the car, he stealthily slid his hand up her leg. The nun said, 'Father, remember Psalm 129?' The priest removed his hand. But, changing gears, he let his hand slide up her leg again. The nun once again said, 'Father, remember Psalm 129?' The priest apologized 'Sorry sister but the flesh is weak.' arriving at the convent, the nun sighed heavily and went on her way. On his arrival at the church, the priest rushed to look up Psalm 129. It said, 'Go forth and seek, further up, you will find glory.' Moral of the story: If you are not well informed in your job, you might miss a great opportunity. Lesson 3: A sales rep, an administration clerk, and the manager are walking to lunch when they find an antique oil lamp. They rub it and a Genie comes out. The Genie says, 'I'll give each of you just one wish.' 'Me first! Me first!' says the admin clerk. 'I want to be in the Bahamas , driving a speedboat, without a care in the world.' Puff! She's gone. 'Me next! Me next!' says the sales rep. 'I want to be in Hawaii , relaxing on the beach with my personal masseuse, an endless supply of Pina Coladas and the love of my life.' Puff! He's gone. 'OK, you're up,' the Genie says to the manager. The manager says, 'I want those two back in the office after lunch. Moral of the story: Always let your boss have the first say. Lesson 4 An eagle was sitting on a tree resting, doing nothing. A small rabbit saw the eagle and asked him, 'Can I also sit like you and do nothing?' The eagle answered: 'Sure, why not.' So, the rabbit sat on the ground below the eagle and rested. All of a sudden, a fox appeared, jumped on the rabbit and ate it. Moral of the story: To be sitting and doing nothing, you must be sitting very, very high up. Lesson 5 A turkey was chatting with a bull. 'I would love to be able to get to the top of that tree' sighed the turkey, 'but I haven't got the energy.' 'Well, why don't you nibble on some of my droppings?' replied the bull. They're packed with nutrients.' The turkey pecked at a lump of dung, and found it actually gave him enough strength to reach the lowest branch of the tree. The next day, after eating some more dung, he reached the second branch. Finally after a fourth night, the turkey was proudly perched at the top of the tree. He was promptly spotted by a farmer, who shot him out of the tree. Moral of the story: Bull Crap might get you to the top, but it won't keep you there.. Lesson 6 A little bird was flying south for the winter. It was so cold the bird froze and fell to the ground into a large field. While he was lying there, a cow came by and dropped some dung on him. As the frozen bird lay there in the pile of cow dung, he began to realize how warm he was. The dung was actually thawing him out! He lay there all warm and happy, and soon began to sing for joy. A passing cat heard the bird singing and came to investigate. Following the sound, the cat discovered the bird under the pile of cow dung, and promptly dug him out and ate him. Morals of the story: (1) Not everyone who craps on you is your enemy. (2) Not everyone who gets you out of crap is your friend. (3) And when you're in deep crap, it's best to keep your mouth shut! THUS ENDS THE FIVE MINUTE MANAGEMENT COURSE

Name: slack action E-mail: Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years Posted: 12 November 2008 Nomo I concur: THANKS TO ALL THE MEN AND WOMEN SERVING OUR GREAT COUNTRY.. AND THE ONES THAT HAVE SERVED IN THE PAST. THEY HAVE GIVEN THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE. AT LEAST RR EMPLOYEES GET A TWO HOUR CALL, THEY GET A 2 SECOND CALL... THANKS AGAIN!!!!!

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 12 November 2008 To all the Veterans: Thank you for your service.

Name: goober E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 11 November 2008 To HTL, Now dang it records were always played on a record player, and Victrolas played round hard things that looked like records, but were not magnified by yep you guessed it Old Thomas Edison. Glad we got that straight, Jeez youngins. GOOFY

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 11 November 2008 Pop's How's retirement? I'm so damn envious. People are leaving in droves taking disabilities. I had four good friends leave in the past year with at least three more who are going after the first of the year. Most just gave up they had enough of the Ingramisms. Thought it couldn't get worse but it keeps declining out here. Makes you wonder how this railroad stays afloat if they had people with half a brain the profits could skyrocket. Now a days we talk about past trainmasters we thought were idiots who we wish would come back because at least they knew how to move a railroad. It's funny the one thing you could always count on the railroad has become like an ex-wife you'ld like to forget.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 11 November 2008 What is the advantage of working for a short line versus for CSX, as far as being a track worker? Is there any difference in schedule, pay, people?

Name: htlong E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 10 November 2008 sonny....didnt records play on a victrola???????

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 09 November 2008 CSX doesn't use the schools anymore. It's direct hire off the street. Why do people complain about the working hours? Jezzis, this is a rairoad we run trains it doesn't take a genious to figure out you'll work all sorts of hours. In fact they even explain that in the job description an at the initial hiring session. It doesn't change so mabey some of you who complain should leave at least quit your bitching. It's like a broken record for those who don't know what that is a CD that gets hung up from scratches.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 08 November 2008 Whomever wrote in and complained about no response from CSX Transporatation, it could be a blessing. If you want to work all shifts, everyday, every weekend, every holiday, not to mention get furloughed(layed off), then go for it. You will be so low on the totem "board" you will live by the phone 7 days a week 24 hours a day. If this sounds good to you be my guest. Oh yeah, I forgot, you will be charged about $8000 to learn the trade in a school. Good luck.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 08 November 2008 WTF? I've applied 8 times to CSX I've interviewed 3 times other positions are pending. Each time I go to their sessions out of 20 people there are 3 hispanics and 3 blacks and the rest white. Out of 7 of us that got interviewed 2 hispanics 2 blacks and 3 whites were interviewed, which seems pretty fair. But... Really, Does CSX hire black people or hispanics frequently? I look white and I even tried to look more like a redneck, even got sunburned to add some color. What's the deal?

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 08 November 2008 Actually Ward sold 406,204 shares @ $46.57 and his wife sold 125,716 on 11/04. He acquired 250,000 shares @ $16.07 on 11/05 and sold 250,000 @ 46.24 the same day. The notes to the transactions says..."to satisfy obligations under a proposed domestic relation agreement." Ward on the way out...possibly, but I doubt it. Would you want to leave the giant corporate tit unless you're being forced? Ward still has plenty of stock and options for more. He's probably sorry he didn't follow my advice and sold at $68.00 or at least went short on it! Sounds like the Wards are splitting up!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: CSX Customer, for N/A Posted: 07 November 2008 hello APE.it looks like m.Ward took my advice and unloaded his stock the thing is he sold 531,920 shares at $46.57 and the next block of 250,000 shares at $46.57 this was above what the stock market close at. the 250,000 shares he sold he purchased at $16.07.you think maybe he might be on the way out. maybe he does not want to share his wealth with the rest of us so he sold because OBAMA WOULD HAVE TOOK SOME OF HIS MONEY AND SHARED IT WITH US.csx must have bought his stock on their buy back program.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years Posted: 07 November 2008 It looks like Mikey Ward has dumped his CSX stock on November 5, 2008. Anyone know the reason why? We are talking major bucks. CSX has been extremely good to Mikey. Go to CSX on the finance page. Pull up insider transactions. Mikey will be having a great Christmas!! How will yours be?

Name: goober E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 06 November 2008 Steve, You have a very valid complaint. CSX is required to respond to all applicants. The timing I have no Idea, normally it is much shorter than you received. My point is the CSX is required to respond to the applicant in a timely manner. It is not your job to request a response. If you have your stuff together, go to the EEOC, and file. Get ready for the ride of your life, and It will not be fun. The RR does think more of their business than they do of the folks they hire, listen up, the rr is the same as any company. Make a profit, or no pay check for anyone. GOOFY

Name: FukCSX E-mail: Youwish Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 06 November 2008 Thought everyone would like to know about a guy in Newport News Terminal in Virginia, Where ALL that black gold from the hills of West "By God" Virginia gets loaded onto ships and sent to china, He is Trainmaster Warren Rennick, a.k.a. Outback Jack, a.k.a Walkabout, who hails from the former Penal colony of Australia, Hence the alias's...Who as it turns out has a BREATHALIZER in his vehicle that he has to blow in to get the damn thing started and then every 15 minutes afterwards to keep it running!! This is the kind of individual that CSX has supervising there operations!!!GIVE ME A BREAK...I thought it was a joke when I first heard the rumor, But I had to ride with the S.O.B. the other day and damnit the rumors are true!!! Thanks CSX!!!!!!!

Name: screwed over E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year Posted: 06 November 2008 Steve from Tennessee: Just curious, but what job did you apply for with CSX?

Name: steve E-mail: Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for Less than 1 year Posted: 05 November 2008 Had a bad experience with the hiring process of CSX Human Resources Dept. I had a great Interview (I thought) and was looking forward to hearing from someone in Human Resources about my status and was told it would be about one week for status update.After two weeks passed and I still heard nothing I tried finding Information on HR and had a very hard time just finding a number to talk to a human being. Apparantly CSX HR likes to do everything via computer but just trying to find HR information on CSX'S very user unfriendly website was a nightmare. My Interveiw was in August and here It is November before I finally had closure as to my final status of "not selected" I am not upset so much about not being selected as I am about being given the runaround for three months that could have been better spent doing other constructive activities. I thought CSX would be a great place to work but I see now that I was wrong and would be better off pursuing other career avenues that can appreciate my skills and training.Judging from my experience with HR and other CSX officials I would say they are a very unorganized company that probably does not put it's employee's interest first but rather their own profit driven agenda.I do not want to work for a company with such misplaced values. Steve in Tennessee

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 04 November 2008 Hello Birmingham...come in: Any body there care to give us a report on every one's favorite Trainmaster, Danny Spenser,Jr. Word is that he might not be feeling too spry!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 02 November 2008 You've got my vote Lloyd!!!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 02 November 2008 Buffett knows the difference between a well run railroad like BNSF and a cheap ass outfit like CSXT. Big investors like Buffett will never put there money on this so called railroad with the current Nazi management team in place.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 01 November 2008 Looks like Buffett voted 65,174,920 times for BNSF! Berkshire Hathway buys 825,000 shares in BNSF NEW YORK - Burlington Northern Santa Fe Corp. revealed in a regulatory filing Thursday (Oct. 30) that billionaire investor Warren Buffett's Berkshire Hathway Inc. on Oct. 28 bought 825,000 shares of the Fort Worth, Texas-based company, RRT News reports. The shares were bought at a price of $79.65 per share. Berkshire now has 64.61 million shares in the nation's second-largest railroad. BNI closed Thursday's regular trade at $86.59, up $1.54 or 1.81%, on 5.16 million shares. (This item was distributed by RTT News Oct. 31, 2008.) October 31, 2008

Name: Brake Stick E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 31 October 2008 Looks like Lloyd has been smokin' weed again or drinkin while he's on the computer....lol The trainmaster who's watching you will have your ass in for a drug test in less than a week. From what the guys that work with you tell me, you only half ass do what your suppose to at work anyway muchless try to run CSX. But it is agood to have goals in life even if their only a pipe dream.....lol REACH FOR THE STARS LLOYD

Name: lloyd christmas E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 31 October 2008 Lloyd Christmas for CSX president. I'd like to first start this article by saying I appreciate everyone who puts up with this companys shit and has no other outs in life but yet has to stay with this company because of the few possible outs we have if we leave the railroad. You guys deserve a pat on the back whether or not we don't do a whole lot of work or not. The fact that we get bent over daily and every time we see our paycheck stubs should be enough. Face the facts though guys, we need a man in charge of CSX who isn't afraid of earning 100,000 a year and being completely satisfied with it for the rest of their life. We need a man who understands what its like to be out on the road, away from family, understands the corporate greed, and can put more money in your pocket while making you a happier person at the same time. Just how much of a raise could you guys get if I became president, accepted a 100,000 a year salary and fired Ingram. Sure he would just join on with UP or BNSF but at least he would be out of our hair right? So let the campaign begin and get the word out that Lloyd is on his way to the top. CSX promotes from within remember? That means that Lloyd has just as good a shot as anyone according to company policy. All I ask is that you spread the name like wild fire. Lloyd will be accepting zero donations and zero campaign contributions. All I want is for this name to be spread so all who work for CSX will learn of a man who will fight for you and will put up with zero bullshit. Please get the name out there and we will make a change.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 31 October 2008 October 30, 2008 and CSX still SUCKS! Some things will never change.

Name: CSX Blow E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 31 October 2008 Anyone been having phone calls from your road foreman of engines about ERAD downloads coming back positive? In my terminal there have been several people serving time due to speeding and the company knowing that the same engine had faulty data coming back. I was called by my road foreman once about leaving engines running that I wasnt even on! LMAO... I mean this is just getting out of hand.If we video recorded the whole trips to cover our butts then they would fire us for having electronic devices. The unions wont do anything about it which is a shame because I have heard it come from an officials mouth that those ERADS have not had all the bugs worked out of them yet but they still charge us for bogus violations. Yea , it makes me feel real good to come into work each day with a smile on my face and want to do a good job for this greedy company and its customers!

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 28 October 2008 I'm flabbergasted... CSX chief Ward says coal is under attack CHARLESTON, W. Va. — The head of CSX Corp. - operator of one of the nation's largest coal-hauling railroads - said the country is headed toward an energy policy that would exclude coal, which "is probably one of the stupidest things you could do," the Daily Mail reports. "I think where our country is headed with energy policy is abysmal," Michael Ward said Thursday during a keynote speech at a fundraiser for Concord University. Ward is chairman, president and chief executive officer of CSX. The corporation's railroad, CSX Transportation Inc., is the largest coal transporter east of the Mississippi River. Coal accounted for 26 percent of CSX Transportation's revenue and volume last year. "There's a move afoot among the environmentalists to block the usage of coal," Ward said. "It's probably one of the stupidest things you could do. We are the Saudi Arabia of coal. It is an abundant, low-cost energy. "There have been a lot of environmental restrictions put on coal in the last 25 years," he said. "Emissions have been reduced dramatically. Now they're coming after CO2. There are potential technologies, carbon sequestration and other developments that can turn carbon dioxide into a useful product. We need to use innovative technologies to make it useful. We need to find ways to burn coal more cleanly. "We're already somewhat challenged competing in the world," Ward said. "There are advocates of wind and solar. If we put in a big effort there, we might generate 5 to 10 percent of what we need at a much higher price but we'll never meet our needs. We need to build coal-fired plants and some nuclear plants as well. "If we continue the path we are on, it will drive up the cost of heating homes, manufacturing," he said. "We need to bring some sense to what our energy policy should be." The audience of about 110 gathered at Embassy Suites erupted in spontaneous applause. "Hopefully President Obama and his colleagues in the House and Senate will bring a proper policy to the nation so we can have coal in its proper spot," Ward said. (This item appeared Oct. 27, 2008, in the Daily Mail.)

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 27 October 2008 Chessie cat found in Jacksonville, FLA shelter. Mike Ward and Tony Ingram changed Chessie's name to "Burger and Fries" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2mbeSAmUP4&feature=related

Name: Enough_is_Enough E-mail: Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for Less than 1 year Posted: 27 October 2008 We on the Huntington Div have had enough of Setzer....Time to lay him out on the tracks again I suppose. Watch out Setzer, there are lots of isolated places in these hollers ;)

Name: sir-smack-a-chief E-mail: fuck_chief_mike@fag.com Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 25 October 2008 Don't know who that Chief "Mike" on the Huntington Division thinks he is... You have a pretty smart mouth over the phone,just maybe we will have to see if your mouth holds up next time I visit the Kremlin in West By God Virginia.... Eat a dick Mike

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 22 October 2008 Sounds like fresh meat to me!!!

Name: fedup E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 21 October 2008 Any one know anything about these new thugs we have in the hu division? scott connors, brian stussy, adam hawkins, the last 2 are tm's.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for Less than 1 year Posted: 21 October 2008 Tom Cook is hiding out in Tennessee these days still employed

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 15 October 2008 Enough said...from the UTU web site Utility challenges CSX coal rate hike Seminole Electric Cooperative in Florida is taking a proposed rate hike from CSX to the U.S. Surface Transportation Board for review, the Jacksonville, Fla., Times Union newspaper reports. According to a statement released by the Seminole Electric Cooperative, it feels a rate hike due to take effect Jan. 1 by CSX is unreasonable and prompted the utilities file a complaint with the STB. CSX ships coal from Illinois and Appalachia to a Seminole generating station and the hike could add to utility costs for more than 1.7 million consumers. According to the statement, Seminole, a captive shipper to CSX, has been in discussions with CSX for more than two years trying to negotiate a new or extended contract before its contract ends this year. Effective Jan. 1, Seminole’s coal shipments will move under published tariff rates that include a CSX fuel surcharge which would double Seminole’s expiring contract rates. The higher shipping rates will add about $230 million to the fuel costs for Seminole Electric in 2009 and 2010, and fuel is the main driver for wholesale energy costs, according to Seminole. CSX Transportation spokesman Garrick Francis told the Jacksonville Times-Union that the railroad company tried to negotiate a shipping rate with Seminole. "We believe that CSX made a fair and reasonable proposal to Seminole and that the rates are comparable to what other utilities are charged by CSX Transportation," he said. (This item appeared in the Times-Union Oct. 14, 2008.) October 14, 2008 I guess if you have them over a stump...pork'em. CSX doesn't negotiate, they dictate to captive shippers!

Name: Marvin E-mail: Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years Posted: 15 October 2008 everone on CSX corporate payroll big fat suckasses? all i read about is suckasses. suckass this an suckass that. here a suckass, there a suckass, everywhere a suckass. aint there no executive not a suckass no more?

Name: Mendez E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years Posted: 15 October 2008 Operating Rule 701: employees are forbidden to be injured on the job. Violation of this rule is subject to termination.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year Posted: 14 October 2008 Campfire Rumors about Tom "Jansack" Cook is he is in deep shit up too his nose. Rumor is he was fired. I would think when the high powered attorneys from CSX and CSX Customers get done with him he will be in deeper shit. It was rumored he did steal money and got other kick backs like a $20,000.00 golf club membership and maybe other CSX officials whom golf rather than work, also other employees might be involved. Not sure if CSX is offering a reward for reporting these thieves. Sounds like a good idea.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 11 October 2008 I've now heard three different times around Avon that former Trainmaster of the Year(Corporate Suckass) Tom Cook was caught embezzling funds. Anyone know the real scoop ??????????

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 10 October 2008 to the condr. that posted the article about VANHORN i hope he had all that money he stole in his 401 maybe he lost a big sum of it since he retired HA ha.i know for a fact he stole over $100,000.00 in one year from the people he was supposed to be representing in one year not counting the other 4 years. vanhorn is probably croaking like a big bull frog now for that is what you see when you meet up with him.

Name: E-mail: fitzgerald ga Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years Posted: 10 October 2008 just wanted everyone to know that mr. W.E.VANHORN RETIRED AND ALL THE MONEY HE STOLE WHILE HE WAS LOCAL CHAIRMAN AT FITZGERALD GA HE GOT TO KEEP FOR HIS OWN. GOOD OLD MR JOHN HANCOCK GENERAL CHAIRMAN REFUSED TO TRY GET ANY OF THIS BACK EVEN THOUGH THE INTERNATIONAL PRESIDENT SAID HE WOULD.IF WE GOT PEOPLE REPRESENTING US LIKE THIS JUST THINK WHAT YOU CAN EXPECT.I KNOW THIS IS A C S X SUCK PROGRAM BUT IT LOOKS LIKE SOME IN HIGH UP IN THE U T U HAS BEEN DOING A LOT OF SUCKING.

Name: BoxcarBob E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 05 October 2008 Might be a good idea for old John Hancock to take that Sheet Metal Workers International Association banner off of his UTU web site. Or maybe you didn't hear. The judge said that until Mike Sullivan allows a constitution and the members to vote on it, it is not going to happen. You kinda have to remember John that your web site is a UTU one. Sure hate to see you be thought of as a dual unionist too like those dwarf officers under charges like Roy Boling.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for N/A Posted: 02 October 2008 Responsibility: Workplace "Our success as a company begins with how we treat one another at work. We sustain an ethical culture by treating our co-workers with respect and dignity." - Tony Ingram, Chief Operating Officer, CSX Transportation Safety We have rules. We have procedures. We have Personal Protective Equipment. Every single employee is tested and certified on their knowledge and practice. LEARN MORE Diversity We respect differences, we reward teamwork, and we treasure and capitalize on talent wherever we find it. Training Talent and potential are in every part of our organization. Our mission is to spot it, develop it, and help the people who possess it to make the most of it - for their benefit and for ours.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 26 September 2008 THAT DUDE WAS SUPPOSEDLY STANDING IN THE GAGE NO RADIO OR LANTERN SUPPOSEDLY THE TRAIN WAS BLOWING THROUGH CROSS BUCKS RIGHT BEFORE THE INCIDENT

Name: Ugly Stik E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years Posted: 25 September 2008 Yep, just come to Boyles Terminal, Birmingham, AL. The GREAT L&N has given the stamp of approval for Trainmaster Joel "RA RA" Hudson, Scott Connors and Danny Spencer to determine that your not sick as your leaning over a can throwing up. Then they get to fire you for leaving to go home because they WOULDN'T call 911 and take you to the hospital. Good old Joel has been given free reign on his medical skills accredited from the college of CSX. To bad he can't tell his yardmasters are drinking on the job and come in drunk. Hell I was just up there last week and standing between the Mainline and the Hump I couldn't tell who was drunker. Then again daddy's boy and trust fund baby were in back avoiding the problem. How often do those people get drunk tested anyway. I heard the one that drives the BMW, TOTALED his car about 1 year ago while driving drunk over near Hoover. I guess he must have payed dearly to get thoughs charges hidden from the railroad. I wonder if he reported it. What's the policy on that situation? Then again another yardmaster got caught driving his boat drunk too. Must be nice to live up high and look down on people while judging them.

Name: csx sucks advocate E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 25 September 2008 Hey everyone its September 24, 2008. Tony Ingram and Michael Ward still love the cock, and they also love ramming it to anyone who isn't 100 percent rules compliant. I can't wait till TCI removes your two sorry asses permanently!!!

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Name: Boots-n-ballast E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 23 September 2008 You mean CSX don't care about me and my family?!? There has to be some mistake!! surely they want us to do well they even told us so at choo choo U.

Name: fuck_bill_setzler E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 23 September 2008 All Local Chairpersons:   Recently, an individual was removed from service for placing "CSX Sucks" stickers on a locomotive.  I bring this to your attention to caution our Membership that such is a violation of CSXT Operating Rules -- defacing company property.    It took the US Congress to pass a "Law" that permits an individual the right to wear a union button.    However, these rights do not extend to placing such materials on company property.  It's still an anti union, anti worker environment.  We have come a long way, but we have a long way to go.   Sometime people get caught up in doing stuff and do not think it through.   Please make sure the Membership understands the issues involved.     John Hancock

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 23 September 2008 Hey Goober: I'm on their side...the last thing I want do do cause them more problems. As far as believing me...maybe they should. A little paranoia might keep them employed. It is CSX that's killing them...emotionally, morally and intellectually by treating them like children. Hiding in the weeds, threatening to fire them. I'm sure they would rather receive the money they've earned through claims than a $0.50 pen with the CSX logo on it in lieu of. Besides, searching for mikes and mini cams keeps them out of the strip joints, beer joints and whore houses while away from home; and with the economy as it is, keeps that money in their pocket!

Name: goober E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 23 September 2008 Hey NOMO When you say the free pens may have Mic's or mini cams in them, do you know what you are doing? A bunch are going to believe you, and spend hours trying to find them. You are adding this to the old room search, for the same items that they are spending hours each trip on NOW. Give the folks a little slack, you are killing them. They will Eat Shower and Search until the call comes. GOOFY

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 21 September 2008 A couple of contenders for the annual Eunuch Award!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 20 September 2008 Chicago division Barr yard superintendent Scott Kuhner and trainmaster Kevin Houlton. Two men(?),without a full set of balls between 'em.

Name: Ugly Stik E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years Posted: 20 September 2008 Hey there, Has anyone heard of the new Road Foreman of Engines in Birmingham. Suppose to be working on the Lineville side. They say his name is Kurt *****?. What's his name? They say he's Joel "RA RA" Hudson's brother in law. Is this a ethical policy violation? Where'd he come from, the jail cells of New Orleans? Also, it was said that Tom May is Joel Hudson's father in law. Is this True? ANYONE KNOW THESE PEOPLE?

Name: C&O JOE E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 18 September 2008 I hear ya on the morale. You have to wonder, is there a limit to how low morale goes? We're currently at a level equal to a Nazi concentration camp and there appears to be no end in sight. It used to take a year or two to ruin the green hats but anymore it's a matter of weeks. I can't really say why they do us the way they do, even an idiot knows a happy employee is a productive employee, but we can all take pride in the fact (with the exception of a suckass here and there) that through all the shit they've done to us we've (for the most part) been unified in breaking one off in their ass at every oppratunity. We've come this far, it's getting easier all the time to explain too. Every rule they make is another dollar in the bank and another train delayed.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 17 September 2008 Hey Blow: You better watch those pens...if CSX gave them to you, they probably have mikes or mini cams in them!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 17 September 2008 I have to agree with you brother, it is the same way up here in New York. Nobody even cares if things get done, and everyone totally hates this railroad. I didn't think that morale even had a lower point, yet things get more and more ugly by the day. The company does throw in a cheap hot dog cook out once in a while, yet the cost of a cook out is no where near the price of all the money that they steal from each employee. We got new employees now saying that they hate this company...lol.

Name: CSX Blow E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 16 September 2008 Car Reapir : YOU GOT AN INK PEN?!?!?!? Man in Pensacola Florida we havent gotten anything in awhile. They have cook outs , only people that go are the freight pool greeds. If you sit on an extra board chances are you wont get to go.A few months back the trainmaster had some hats made for us that were baby blue.Nobody wore them , and they still dont! What a joke ! LOL ... Most of the guys gave them to their wives. However , you are right about the moral. Its is piss poor and I will be the first to tell you I dont care about my job anymore and it doesnt matter if I service all the customers either. Whem they dont pay me what im due or atleast say thanks once in awhile that goes to show you how much of an assett you really are. I just feel like another liability when I go to work. Anyways , send some of those ink pens for the guys in Pensacola . It will be the first worthy thing we can actually use that we would have gotten in several years.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Car repair, for 20-30 years Posted: 16 September 2008 thanks to past and present leadership in the jax office the moral is the worst i saw in 30 yrs.wards wife gets a million for stress and we got an ink pen for working safe, might i add it was a $1.00 ink pen.our safety dinners have gone from steak to hotdogs and hamburgers, that will really want people involved with safety. give ward credict for more earnings per share, thats cause no one bothers to turn in injurys anymore due to threat of being fired. another intelligent move was no longer use of buggys in waycross, it must be cheaper to buy pickups,buy insurance, pay more for gas, but hey what do i know, engram went to college.they need more college education to replace years of hand on exsperience. the bottom line is numbers first,all about money in upper management pockets.the better the numbers the more for upper management.but just like the erons,the internet, housing, financial markets, the railroad bubble will bust, then musical chair of management to try fix it with some more college ed, forget the common sense the way comporate america use to be run.and they wonder why foreign investors are taking over america, they buy us on the cheap when a company goes low

Name: htl E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 14 September 2008 nomo, survivor should be added to the relationship for sure! did I mention mrs htl cant go south with me.......account of I married too young. lol yes it does put a burr under her saddle, that I have retired,and I make it a point to be sitting in my underwear each morning wishing her a good day as she stomps out the door to go to her work thing....... ahhh finally I get to enjoy life.....I think it would have been more fun to have enjoyed it in my 20's and 30's,but kids and grand kids seemed to get in my way. so I am not that far from great grand kids (with the way my 13 yr old grand daughter looks) so if I want to go now is the time..... while I have time left. too bad all I can do is look at the chicks on the beach.....but that will save me lots of money looking doesnt cost.

Name: goobie E-mail: Employed as: M of W, for 30+ years Posted: 14 September 2008 Responding to the Ron Powers story. The asshole is still around just ask the employees on the balt. div. He puts the screws to these guys every way that he can,especially a select few!!!!! He's still the same sawed of little prick.talk about short man syndrome this guy is the poster child for it. People can't wait till this dick leaves.He is an absolute asshole,this guy wants to use the agreement when it benefits hinself but when you use the agreement against him look out,he tries to put your dick in the dirt.I'm with you i can't believe that union can't do anything to this guy,he has to have a friend up in high management. I heard that he was fired from conrail and got back when the merger took affect,how lucky are we.How many complaints does it take to get rid of this guy,when you neglect safety like this ass and don't listen to people in the field and there is a chance some could get hurt and you still don't do anything something is wrong.I really believe that if the few guys that he really fucks beyond civil behavior they could really get rid of the shit head.Well i hope that day comes real soon!!!!!!!!!!!

Name: Ugly Stik E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years Posted: 14 September 2008 Look out Huntington, rumor has it Scott Conners bull dog Joel "RA RA" Hudsons is on his way there to straighten you out. Notice on how he gets out of a vehicle, his little 5'6" body swells up like a former New Orleans Cop. They don't do a CNN Special on Coruption of New Orleans PD for nothing. Watch out he's on LMS (Little Mans Sindrome). Scott Conners uses Joel Hudson's ID and charges people the way he feel like. He then conspied with Joel and makes up stories. At Birmingham, AL they charged and fired a conductor by saying how he jumped between equipment about to couple up in the South Yard. Then they got that DRUNK DRIVER yardmaster Robert Jonio to go along with the story for a witness. Then again, it's not the first times Jonio has been instructed to testifiy against fellow employees. I'm sure there's many of you go up in the tower and it smells like a beer factory. Between Sam and Robert drinking and Chris Bennetts pain killers, and the others on Zanxac. hhmmm....? Then there was a picture taken by an old head where Joel Hudson had parellal parked with a company vehicle on the tracks infront of a train, like he was going to stop that train from moving. Then rumor has it that Joel "RA RA" Hudson conspired with UTU union chairmen and local to get rid of a conductor that stood up to them. The problem is the guys are blaming another conductor that sucks up to the company for safety days. Fun thing is, if we're all suppose to be safe, then why isn't EVERYONE being giving safety days. But it must be the BOYS CLUB there in Boyles Terminal the Safest Terminal in the company. BS!!! The officals at Boyles are just really good at covering up derails and side swipes and employee injuries. The FRA need to go walk down in the Bowl and see all the switch shims laying on the ground around the switches. Let's not forget all the employees on prescription drugs that aren't prescriped for them. mmmmmm...... Wait a minute....isn't Alabama the leader in Meth labs. Maybe someones moving drugs through Birmingham by rail. Who else to due it, the ex-cop Joel Hudson. The big push to move that frieght train out of Tuscaloosa where Alabama College is located. hhhmmmmm?? Maybe that's why the unions involed too. Why would the UTU and BLE locals move back and forth from the south to the north ends. Maybe Trainmaster Ken Williams was getting tried of splitting up his share of the profits. Makes you wonder.

Name: Tony Ingram E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for N/A Posted: 14 September 2008 Attn: All CSXT Transportation Department Employees: The CSX Ethics Committee, in conjunction with the operating rules department, and following the spirit of the CSX Ethics policy, has mandated the following changes in defining restricted speed. ********************************************************************* RESTRICTED SPEED RULE REVISED RESTRICTED SPEED: A speed that will permit stopping within one-half the range of vision, short of train, engine, railroad car, stop signal, derail or switch not properly lined, looking out for broken rails, shunts, bushes with radar guns attached, a trainmaster with red flag and wearing night vision goggles, or loose plastic grocery bags lying with the other garbage in the track, not exceeding 10 mph, except when using foreign line engines (because they stop faster than CSXT engines), not to exceed 20 mph unless there is a fog or descending grade within 30 miles, in which case 2 mph cannot be exceeded unless, of course, the conductor wishes to walk ahead of the move then not exceeding 4 mph, except if the conductor is a former switchman, then a speed of 3 mph must not be exceeded, or if you have less than 500 cars, 5 mph may not be exceeded because the train length permits (see Special Instructions for exceptions - should be somewhere in the first 15 pages of rules changes, as amended by General Bulletins and supplemented by specific instructions on certain subdivisions as put into effect by Division Notice), except if in signaled territory and track is seen to be clear to the next signal and crew is short on time, then 40 mph must not be exceeded. Your continuing employment with CSXT is contingent upon your diligent observation of this revised rule. No exceptions! Be governed accordingly, Tony Ingram

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 14 September 2008 Hey HTL: Glad to hear you're enjoying your retirement...how the Mrs. enjoying it? When you come South, stop by LA(Lower Alabama) where life is easy (except for the occasional Cat. 3+) and the tales are tall. I think however there should be a new category of relationship with CSX...SURVIVOR...rather than other, non employee, NA; which would more accurately describe your relationship! Well based on the recent posts nothing has changed since TCI/3G won their seats...nor is it likely to any time soon. I also wonder how many are second guessing the latest contracts served up by their respective Unions. It's nice to get your life back isn't it? I think I'll have a cold one and watch football all day! That's one thing most Contract employees can't say. Oh, by the way...doesn't your house need painting?

Name: htl E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 13 September 2008 nomo, I have been waiting to hear from the clarabell award winner of 2007 aka eubanks, I bet he locks his car now a days. he must have been laying low waiting to get the jive of avon ,now he is coiled and ready to strike his prey. I wish we could post pictures of the #1 clown winner of 2007 ,It sounds like he is making a last minute run for the 2008 clarabell award.......avon guys keep me posted, this guy is really dangerous but he is a one man comedy show. one guy told me that if you are talking about any job,carpenter,salesman,etc he has done it. I believe he has had all of those jobs.....and was fired from each one account of knowing more than anyone else on the job! as for me nomo.......retirement is fantastic when asked what I am going to do tommorrow I tell them, ANYTHING I WANT TOO!!!! I am gearing up to go south here in a month or so, nomo winters!!!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 12 September 2008 Has anyone heard who the new road foremans are and where they are going? Hope we dont get another jackass....

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 12 September 2008 Come in HTL: Honk...honk and watch that lapal flower!!!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 11 September 2008 Be careful in Avon Eubanks is a hatchetman. He'll cut jobs down to bare minimun or less just like he did at Richmonds AACA yard. He loves putting people in the street summer of 2007 he had 14 people in the street at AACA there wasn't enough people left working to fill jobs. He called the 14 people stating he would recind their time if they came back to work only 2 did because they didn't have job insurance. AACA was a busy yard today it's just a shell.

Name: Todesengel E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 11 September 2008 Typical CSX management treatment.....It seems the utility men at Avon are turning in for a "no lunch" because they don't GET a meal period.Eubanks the new super at Avon is very upset by this so he is threatning to pull those jobs.Geez,what a way to boost morale;don't honor the contract and mess with people's paychecks.That will really get production up. In other news;Rick Reed has a few investigations pending.Seems when dick weed boards a train he looks for ALL their paperwork.The fuss is over T&E crews do not have hot box tags and the train separation forms with them.You can't get anyone to hand them out.When someone on the safety committee suggested that crews should receive a bag with hot box and bad order tags,train separation forms and a stick that would melt showing a hot box they were told "NO,we are NOT going to do that". I'm suprised there hasn't been an outright muntiny before now.The only recourse we have is to go 100% by the rules and shove it right up their CSX asses..

Name: Deo volente E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 11 September 2008 Yes,Tom Cook is in some hot water but like all CSX officals nothing major will be done to him.If it does I hope you remember all those people you fucked with Tom......

Name: JAFO E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for Less than 1 year Posted: 11 September 2008 Sounds like Cook is getting his EC-1 and his EX "X"ed Out of Town, Out of CSX I am sure he might know what I mean and some others on Road EAST, Avon, Cookieville In prison they will "X" him as a Child MoLester Are you reading this one Cook, it is for You. Signed Die Hard with a Vengence

Name: Boilermaker E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 11 September 2008 All I hear is that Jacksonville has had an auditor at Hawthorne for a month now. Cook's computer and books have been confiscated. Jax has people talking to Cooks customers. Cook's wife has filed for divorce, and Cook is keeping a low profile. I've asked several company officers on several different divisions what is Cook's status. They've said he has an office at 31 East Georgia Street, Indianapolis, IN one at CSX head quarters (probably under Tony Ingrams desk) in Jacksonville, and he could be anywhere. All of them have said they don't know or care where he is, just as long as its far away from their terminal. It appears, from asking dozens of train masters about Cook, Cook doesn't have any friends in the train master ranks. I've heard the rumor, non comfirmed, that Cook's last name use to be Janzack or Jansack, I'm not sure of the spelling, just what it sounds like. I was told its Polish. When asked, Cook claims to have changed his name while in college because he thought a Polish name would hurt him in the business world. I know that Cook use to be in the sales department back when Conrail existed. I heard that he sucked/ass kissed his way into the train master spot to keep a job in the railroad after the merger. The rumor mill states that the real reason Cook changed his name is because he was charged with child molestation, and embezelment from his former employeer. This information came from a guy Cook went to college and roomed with. It sounded like he didn't care for Cook either. All I know is that the less I see of Cook, the better, and if the rumor about his demise is true. It couldn't happen to a more deserving guy. What goes around, comes around.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 09 September 2008 September 9, 2008 & CSX STILL SUCKS!!! This website is great!

Name: RippedoffbyCook E-mail: Employed as: CSX Customer, for N/A Posted: 09 September 2008 What is the latest greatest on THE CSX Cookie Monster aka Tom Cook who changed his name several years ago too hide things he did in his deep dark past. Embezzelment & some other bad crime Has CSX or the Feds gotten him yet. Hey Indianapolis is he at Hawethorne or Barr Yard. Is his wife's boyfriend going down with him too?

Name: abused sectionman E-mail: Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years Posted: 09 September 2008 I just wanted to say CN is pulling the same shit over here! I hear you my brothers! your not alone,god i hate going in anymore!

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 08 September 2008 Hey Peyton: Yeah, someone should call his wife...and if that doesn't do it, a face to face...if you get my drift! Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 17 August 2008 Hey #1: Nice to know you enjoy the "Brown Banana" Awards. Your biography of Danny Spencer, Jr. deserves a screen play...perhaps "Desperate Trainmasters"...what a POS, That would be Pile...not Piece Of Shit! Poor Montgomery, first the Dyke now this guy...next stop Gentilly. Sounds like CSX is trying to promote him out the door! What is it with these guys named Spencer...first the dickweed in Philly, now this loser...are they brothers? Obviously the apple didn't fall far from the tree with these two. Anyway, without further adieu... Hey Danny Spencer, Jr.: I think you've just been nominated for a prestigious NoMo P.O.S (Pile of Shit) Award...and a deserving nominee you are. With that said, I'm pleased to present you with the latest P.O.S Award for conduct becoming a truly despicable and upwardly moving Trainmaster. As you climb the CSX ladder of success, make sure you harass and intimidate all in your charge...you'll be it Tony's knee hole in no time! As the latest winner, you are now eligible for coveted NoMo "Brown Banana" Award which will be awarded to the Biggest Piece of Shit on the CSX. If you should be fortunate enough to win, you will be enshrined in the CSX Hall of Shame next to Tony"Little Slimy" Ingram, and last years winner, David Brown...you heroes. Look forward to seeing you Dec. 31st at the third annual "Brown Banana" Awards...keep up the pretty work!

Name: Peyton Place E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 08 September 2008 Hey NoMo, After reading the post below, I want to re nominate Danny Spencer for the P.O.S. award. I bet Spencer would suck the sweat off Ingram's balls, probably because he would enjoy it, not just to get ahead in management. If half of what is written below is true. He is truly a piece of shit. I wonder if Spencer's wife knows how active her man really is? He ever comes to my area, and did anything with my wife, and he made it out of my front door alive..... Spencer's wife Deana would be getting 8x10 photos of his naked body, and all of my ex-wifes belongings on his front door step. NoMo Once again I want to nominate Danny Spencer Jr.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 08 September 2008 Beer drinker at the OWL The Spencer guy you are talking about is Danny Spencer. He is a piece of crap. I heard that use to say "women and minoritys did nothing but create problems, and I will have neither". He was very open about this as he would go about firing them. He'd brag about this openly back in his Chicago/Great Lake Division days when I was stupid, young, and a company officer. I heard while Spencer was in Lafayette, Indiana, on the old Monon Sub he hated his 2nd trick yardmaster. Spencer told us that everyday he would tell him, "I'm going to fire you". Spencer would call him at all times of the day and night, even when this guy was at home, just to yell at him. (Then laugh about it with us over drinks. A lot of times Spencer would do it on speaker phone so that the other train masters could get a laugh out of it to.) The 2nd trick yard master was gay, and had been doing Mike Benim, the former train master. Spencer found out. He must have felt threatened. Plus Spencer openly hated Benim. Spencer went after the yard master. As soon as the yard master got his 5 years in he quit. Around the same time there was a hispanic male that hired on the Monon Sub. I think Luna was the guys name. Luna told his union rep that everday he went to work, and Spencer was around, all Spencer would say to him, "is this the day that I am going to get to fire you?" Spencer braged said that the day Luna went into take his final on the pods he went in there with him and wouldn't even let him take a break to to take a piss. All Spencer kept saying to him is "just fail this test so that I can get out of here. Why are you taking so long? You don't need to look at the books, you're just going to fail anyways. Quit wasting everybodys time and fail." Spencer told us that Luna was a nervious wreck, and this is the reason that he failed. When Luna finished his pods, Spencer yelled at him for taking so long and making him late for his "plans that evening". I was told that Luna told others working in Lafayette, that Spencer told him if he knew what was good for him he better fail the 2nd retest on the pods, because if he passed, he was going to get fired as soon as he hired on. Spencer also went after the 3 women that worked on the Monon Sub. Spencer use to say to the crews he was sent by Jacksonville to clean house in Lafayette, and both the Jones and the women were going to be the first to go. By the time Spencer left, one women, one of the Jones, was gone on medical, one woman fled to Avon, and the one that screwed him anytime, any place, anywhere, and was caught doing the NEW 2nd trick yardmaster on the picnic table. I guess Spencer didn't like sharing this one women with his fellow workers. As for the other Jones that Spencer went after, he went off medical too. Both Jones, from what I hear are back to work. In fact they came back after Spencer left. Its sad when you have to get the hell out of your work place of choice in order to save you job. Danny Spencer helped get Abe Vesques, an LC out of Chicago, that was kicking his ass, fired. It was claimed that Abe made refrence to Danny's womanizing ways when he was at Garrett Yards. Abe never made any comments about Spencer, it was another train master, Todd Brock, that made the comments to Abe. Abe spent over a year on the street because of this alledged comment. Abe won his case with the neutral, and had to hire a lawyer to sue CSX to get his job back. Last I heard, Abe was back and he was still fighting for back pay. What did CSX do about train master Brock, for making the false accusations? Nothing. Brock got it later though. When someone asked Brock where Abe Vesques was, as they hadn't seen him working around Barr Yard in awhile. Brock said that Abe didn't have a green card so I.N.S. shipped his wet back, back to Mexico where he belonged. Spencer was in the meeting when Brock made this comment, and laughed his ass off about the comment. Luckly for you and me. Barr had two fellow union men that heard the comments and went to the ethics hot line to get this situation fixed. Today Brock is working for another railroad. Danny Spencer is a womanizer, hates blacks and hispanics, but is REALLY good at being a company suck ass. He'd drop to his knees and suck the sweat off Tony Ingrams balls if he thought it would help him get a promotion, or get a head in this company. By the way if Spencer is comming back to Alabama, watch out. He will do your wife, brag to your face about it, and then tell you how there is nothing you can do about it. He's a company official, and can have your job anytime he wants. CSX will believe him over you, the union man. After all CSX is an ethical company. Its against the code of ethics for a company offical to lie. If you think I am joking about the womanizing, ask Neil Pancake, Joe Musack, or the engineer out of Garrett who's wife he was doing. All those men, except for Joe Musack, are divorced now. Those stupid women thought Danny was going to leave his wife Deanna, and his boys behind for their nasty scanky cheating asses. I guess Saraj Musack must have realized when she and Spencer went to a hotel, after his class reunion, that size does matter. And "little" Danny Spencer wasn't worth leaving her husband behind for after all. Either that, or Joe still believes his wife when she and Danny go out for coffee, to catch up, their still just friends. (JOE YOU ARE AN IDIOT. DANNY DOESN'T DO ANYTHING UNLESS IT IS GOING TO GET HIM A HEAD OR SOME HEAD.) Beer Drinker at the OWL thanks for the post. Thinking about Danny Spencer reinforces my belief that I made the right decision about rejoining the ranks. This company doesn't want men out here that are honest, hard working, and believe in ethics. I was young and STUPID for believing CSX did when I signed up to be a company official. I believed that both sides could work together for a better railroad. I was wrong, very wrong. Men like Danny Spencer use to laugh when he would pit both unions against each other. He'd get a bunch of us guys around and get on the speaker phone. Then he'd call one union rep saying "Hey I just talked to so and so from the UTU he said this. Is this true?" That idiot would get going and say a bunch of crap about the BLE. Then Spencer would call the guy from the BLE and say "I just talked to so and so from the UTU and he said this. Is this true? I can't work with you if your going be like this." And the BLE idiot would start spouting off. Spencer would then brag that he could get whatever he wanted from both of those idiots because each thought that Spencer was their friend, and on their unions side. He use to brag that if he could keep both unions fighting, they didn't care what he did to the crews because both sides thought it was retalation for what the other union said or did to the other. In reality. Nothing ever really happend. Spencer just made up some story and both LC believed it, hook, line and sinker. And the fighting began. In the end, the only ones that suffered were the men. Neither union worked together to help the men on the crew when Spencer would hold his "hearings". He said he would do this every so often, when CSX would start coming down on us for not having enough failures, firings and such. He recommended we could use this tactic at our own terminals. Spencer said that he didn't look like a bad guy to the men, which made his work easier and they were willing to work harder for him. Spencer would also tell us, "all of the union men are stupid enough to believe that being "friends" with the train master is a way to keep from getting written up. They will bend over backwards, break the rules, and do what ever I ask them. All because I tell them if they help me out now. I'll help them out later, and that later is never going to come, unless it benefits ME." Beer Drinker at the OWL, have a cold one for me. HELL, I'm no longer a company official, I'm not on call 24/7, and I'm not working today. I'll have several cold ones for myself, watch the Jets/Miami game and thank God I am once again a union man. Hell, I'll even invite Jack Dannels over and have one with him since I don't have to associate, and kiss ass with a bunch of pieces of crap/company officers like Danny Spencer. And those of you out there that are good and fair company officers, you are far and few in between, I'll drink a double to you. God bless the unions. Now get back in there and fight for the working men.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 08 September 2008 Glad to see the site is still alive and kicking, I hate this company so much and it is the best place to vent. CSX SUCKS!

Name: Beer drinker at OWL E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 07 September 2008 I over heard at the local Owl place that the UTU and BLE chairmen at the Birmingham yard has conspired with company officials, (someone named Joel and Scott, Scott being the Boss man) against a UTU member about getting rid of him and others by making up stories of threats. They talked like these guys work side by side everyday and share stories. The way these guys talked it was all over some hunting land company officals owned and how big of deer Alabama DOESN'T have. Also that Joel's wife is getting fucked by a Yardmaster and he's suppling her with prescription drugs who he gets from someone off a train from the south and also from someone that works in a bowl. It sounded like the wifey has had a drug problem before because Joely is a prick and talks to his kids like shit. They also talked about several people getting fired for having bad criminal records that will be found out every 2-3 years. Like possesion of weed and drunk driving. But they also implied that Yardmasters and Trainmasters record would be covered up because they didn't have to due some kind of paperwork. But also, how the different laws effected peoples records. Also that when yardmasters and trainmaster never got tested and if they did it was alway at the beginning of the shift. So after the second hour they could pop there pills like pain pills or valium even if there subscribed or not to them. There was something said on how they got the FRA under control and how they can hide stories about guys getting dragged through the gravel and sent home bleeding and bruised so Birmingham can keep there safey record and the guy named Scott Conner(they final said his last name) could get his bonus checks. The injuried employeed were threatened about getting fired and given safety days(what's that?) to keep there mouth shut and come back when there healed. They talked like that happen just in the past few months. Further on in the conversation they talked about a guy named Spencer and how he's returning and going to get back in the sac with the wagon drivers again and other female company employee who visits him that he may have power over. They also talked about this guys usage of the company credit card with hotels along with the sounding like mis-use of the company cell phone and text messages. Since he's the one that hired most of them. While reading all the other stories about these people, I just guess CSX just really wants a major and public law suit for sexual harassment with this Spencer guy. These guys just kept on going about stories of what the company officals where doing the more beer they drank. Not sure to believe all of them but they talked like it was first hand information. Last thing stuck out was that most of the company officals they talked about had family members higher up in the executive lines and how there untouchable and there word would be gold.

Name: Fuck_Setzler E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 07 September 2008 Rumor has it Lil Billy Setzler used to steal auto parts for a living haha. Guess you have to be a crook to get an upper management position with this outfit!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 07 September 2008 It's back. This was a long shutdown.

Name: g d E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years Posted: 23 August 2008 if you are tired of the way the r.r. is working everyone today mostly their safety program and all the odd rules you work by and you have 30 years of service or more then you need to check into retireing on mental disabilty. it is very hard to change your work habits that has been used for the past history working on csx.go see your dr today tell him that you are having all kinds of problems mentally. this r.r. is glad just to get rid of all their older employees. the r.r. does not want anyone working that has any kind of problem you will get your retirement started soon.screw the safety committe and the csx.by the way i want everyone to work safe and not get hurt but everytime someone gets any kid of injury we have a shit rule come out so the next person is fired.

Name: C&O JOE E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 23 August 2008 hey scrungebob, How about licking my underpaid nutsack! I don't fucking remember talking to you. Some dude made a statement that sounded like some high school punk challanging anyone to contest his feeling that his division is the best. I mearly asked him to supply the facts. If anything I was suggesting that is feeling of superiority was in error by poking fun at the fact that he feels he's a bigger part of the grand scheme. Then I get to have some prick like you start running your dickhole because you couldn't take a few seconds to analize the true purpose of my post. Had you have thought before you spoke you may have realized I was building up to the same moral of the story as you because it is a well enforced CSX policy that all divisions must suck equally. I intended to highlight the fact that this dude is either an idiot, or a sad victim of some officials pathetic attempt at boosting moral by taking him up on his challange knowing good and well he has no significant facts or evidence to support his claim and is obviously a victim of some sort of green hat brain washing procedure. Instead, you waste a minute of your precious little spare time trying to make me look like a douch bag, when I feel the same way you do! Think before you post asshole!

Name: j w h E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 23 August 2008 i just want everyone to know even the union representives and all the company and all employees of csx what a safety program we have at fitzgerald ga the safety commite and csx is having a 48 hr cook out. steaks for only the working employees coming in and going out on trains. i put in 42 years of service and did not know about the cook out when i went by the yard office to visit someone. well guess what i was informed by safety man james carelock and senior roadforeman engine boyette that i could have a sausage dog or hot dog.well i took the sausage and left it beside the building for the yd office dog . this is the way you are treated by csx and local safety committe after you put in 42 years of service,i did not really want the steak but this really hit me hard it was two oclock in the evening and i had already had lunch.i was informed i no longer work with csx. thank goodness. this is just a sample of how employees is treated by both the csx and your safety brothers who is getting paid over 275.00 a day to stand around while someone else is doing the cooking. the r.r. would never have but just a few people to come by just for a free meal.and they could well afford to serve their retired employees a steak.as long as you stay in this kind of safety program and the r.r. continue to hide just to catch you breaking some of their rules just so a few safety employees can get free money.well just stay in their safety programs and nothing is ever going to change.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 23 August 2008 I never said I put up with the bullschidt. Everyone who knows me can testify I dislike the "me" attitude which it appears most newbies because of ignorance and some oldheads live by. Just because someone is close to retirement doesn't mean nothing will happen I've known at least 3 people with 30+ years within the past year who were terminated 2 of them for BS reasons. I just do my job an I do it very well. My protest is not making decisions which in the past was part of the job today I let them tell me what to do from the yardmasters who aren't qualified most had less than a year in transportation to trainmaster who are even more unqualified. It makes me money which enhances my retirement investments. Personally I don't own a lot of CSX stock it's not good policy to invest in those you work for look at Enron. As an engineer we didn't get anything for the loss of brakemen slots that is where your confused unlike pre-93 conductors who recieve 30 shares of stock plus productivity check at the end of the year or if they sold it a $6500 a year retirement account since 1993. There is no need for engineers to sell out, greed is another matter that can't be classified to one age group it's always been rampant on the railroad. Seniority is all we have, so what if I stand for a good job my years out here entitles me as it will you when the time happens.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 23 August 2008 For the newbie with less than a year, Railroad retirement is solvent till 2047 most likely by then I'll be dead. Worry about youreslf.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year Posted: 23 August 2008 That old head won't be so happy when one man crews kill off his RR retirement.

Name: lloyd E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 23 August 2008 Question is though loco +30, just because you guys see the light at the end of the tunnel and are about to retire, does that mean that the majority of you all just stand for all the bullshit that happens out here now because you know you wont have to put up with it for much longer? I've been out with a lot of older engineers here lately and their attitude really disheartens me because most of them are about ME ME ME. I mean as long as their stock is looking good and are out of here within 5 to 10 years it seems to me like they really dont fucking care what goes on. I understand this isn't every older man's mentality out here on the railroad but sometimes it sure seems that way.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 22 August 2008 No oldhead is going to say "this is the way it's always been". Because it wasn't, if you worked hard they allowed you time to have a life. The railroad was a better place you looked forward to going to work. That I can say is the biggest change today we almost dread showing up. Our only difference is we see light at the end of the tunnel so we won't let the bastards win.

Name: lloyd christmas E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 22 August 2008 Ethics, ethics, ethics. Michael Ward don't you pride yourself and this company for being "ethical" in your words? How about you start giving guys a somewhat normal fucking life and the ability to plan something fun or quality time with their families. Old heads, don't come on here and start your comments either about this is how its always been and you all need to deal with it like we did either. I wonder just how many divorces that CSX has caused? I wonder how many times guys have had to miss funerals. I wonder how many guys have missed their children being born. How many of you out there think that when you leave your house you might be fired when you get back? How about all those birthdays and parties you miss. What about when your family members are sick in the hospital and you can't give them the common courtesy of a visit or a get well card? How about those rest days..only 16 hours or less if you put off your ticket after the day they fucked you for in the first place. You want to talk about ethics CSX? This company knows nothing about that very word. How about when you got rid of all those brakemen for a fucking EOT device!!! I hope they were able to find decent work since you all decided to replace a human being with a light. I seriously wonder how you mother fuckers sleep at night. Keep pushing the envelope you bastards and we aren't going to give a fuck whether the federal government gets involved, that is those of us who actually have a ball sack. I hope you read this site Ingram and Brown. You two butt pluggers are part of the problem not the solution. Your days are numbered if TCI gets in.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 22 August 2008 Hello fellow railroaders and members of the working class.I would just like to drop a few sincere comments about our leadership.The CSX, like always,is first to scoop up poor and outdated methods and leaders.Take TONY INGRAM for example.I'm sure he has a sheepskin somewhere that says he is good in the business profession.I'm sure it is an MBA.That alone some people think gives him the right to make poor decisions and it will probably all come out in the wash.NS was glad to get rid of him for his draconion measures.I know this for a fact because my brother works for NS.Now it seems he is once again ready to institute such methods again only this time for CSX.It will become common knowledge very soon that if you have a BLUE FLAG violation or if you get hurt you will be fired.This is no way to treat either people and what a waste of experience.The Romans and Greeks used the draconion methods.If their army did not achieve the desired results,the men were lined up and every tenth man was killed.Is that what its come to in the modern age with CSX?TONY INGRAM has a very willing cohort in GARY BETHEL.He is all for a quick and easy solution to get his bonus too.It failed to work in old times and it will fail again.It seems this fellows are keen to lead in the CSX company.Would someone please remind them of the MBA's they supposedly "EARNED"and tell them to use their knowledge instead of their fists.We are told by the president that we need a kinder and gentler world.It is mouthed to us by our leaders to have tolerance for both mistakes and other races.Instituting the above measures and attitudes means they cannot do the job or the goals are too high.I would expect leadership like this in a third world country,not a class 1 railroad in the United States.Quick and easy will destroy this company.When people need a job and are forced to spend every minute of the day watching their backs,I can assure you very little work will get done.Their attitude of what is good for the company will disappear.It will be just like their leaders EVERY MAN FOR HIMSELF.Tell this INGRAM and BETHEL to either dust off the sheepskins and apply sound