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Safety First

Rule #1 -- Don't get hurt.

    Safety is the first priority. Er, or is it the second, after money.... Or the third after getting the trains out....



Webmaster's note:

Since I go through the server logs regularly, I just thought I'd take this opportunity to point out that all of the comments in defense of the company seem to come from Jacksonville, while complaints come from everywhere that the company does business.

You do the math.



Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: bbtpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 06 February 2012

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9_g1NuoT6s&feature=autoplay&list=PL74E854EFAA43C85C&lf=results_main&playnext=2

Tell me why this track light turned from green to yellow like four
seconds before impact Slackie. Oh I know they were trying to BEAT THE
TRAIN>

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: bbtpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 06 February 2012

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DFSHmsFzwg

Look at this jungled out mess of a crossing Slackie. The minimal sight
lights line some goof ball MOW plugged with trespassing signs right in
drivers faces. Mikey Ward  your boys did good making and maintaining
the death trap.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: bbtpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 05 February 2012

Oh, the old magic video that nobody can see trick Slackie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YYoPb-tVYE
In this video I see the signals not activated and gate (gates?)
sticking straight up with the bumper car train sitting on the circuit,
I see like a 2 inch tall median divider for a 104 train a day --- 4
track crossing---I see QUIET zone in the Federal data and no QUIET
signs---I see 40 mph track speed limit and the bumper car train was
going 55 mph--I don't see any rounded bumpers on the bumper car train
---I don't see the electro magnetic effect of bumper car trains and
freight trains on crossing signal action. The gates were down over 7
minutes supposedly --I don't see the rules to prevent 7 minute
blockage of public/private roads.

Name: slack action
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 05 February 2012

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — The driver of an SUV veered around a crossing
arm and ignored flashing warning lights before the vehicle was struck
by a light-rail train in Sacramento on Saturday, killing an
18-month-old boy and two adults, authorities said.

The other person inside the Nissan Pathfinder, a woman in her 30s, was
taken to a local hospital with serious injuries, said Niko King,
assistant chief with the Sacramento Fire Department. Six of the roughly
50 passengers on the light rail train suffered minor injuries and were
taken to a hospital, he said.

King and a spokeswoman for the transit line said video from a camera at
the crossing clearly shows the SUV driving around the crossing arm. The
light rail followed two Union Pacific freight trains, which use
separate tracks, and the arms had remained down during the interval,
said Alane Masui, spokeswoman for the Sacramento Regional Transit
District.

"They were down after the UP trains and before the (light rail) train
approached, so the crossing arms were properly working," she said.

She said the length of time between the freight trains clearing the
intersection and the light rail train crossing it had not yet been
determined and would be part of the investigation. Investigators also
were reviewing video from a camera mounted on the light rail train.

The collision, in a working class neighborhood south of downtown,
occurred shortly after 4 p.m. and pushed the Pathfinder about 30 yards
from the point of impact.

"All I heard was a big bang, and I saw a light-rail train heading
south with a big truck smashed on it," said Ravin Pratab, 42, of
Davis, whose car was among those waiting for the train at the rail
crossing, on the opposite side of the tracks from the Pathfinder.

Name: slack action
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 05 February 2012

There are still plenty of drivers, though, who ignore the warning
signals and try to beat the train. Some of those folks live in
Independence. 
Last week, Union Pacific dispatched one of its trains to travel through
Independence while police watched four train crossings to see how many
people would try to cross the tracks when they shouldn’t.
In the space of two hours, from 11 a.m. and 1 p.m. Thursday, officers
busted 38 people for railroad-crossing violations, Independence police
Sgt. John Passiglia said. 
Give local drivers points for consistency, at least. Independence
conducted a similar campaign last spring, and under almost exactly the
same conditions, officers caught 37 people for crossing violations.

Read more here:
http://www.kansascity.com/2011/11/08/3254835/beat-the-train-is-a-dangerous.html#storylink=cpy

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 05 February 2012

Hey Allman Brothers ---Good to see a post on RR safety and not Slackies
boats are made of ducks BS.

http://www.wkyt.com/wymt/home/headlines/Train_accident_ends_with_one_man_dead_138457594.html
 
Train accident ends with one man dead
'''“The arms actually started coming down as he was crossing the
tracks,”'''

This victim of failed gates ---CSX retiree. Still haven't figured out
why a autopsy was ordered for someone blindsided by a freight engine.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 04 February 2012

Hey Allman Brothers:

Good to hear from you...sorry it had to be under these circumstances.

Thought something bad befell you...I guess you are just enjoying
retirement!

Name: Allman Brothers
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 04 February 2012

Fatal accident Yazoo City Miss.
Crossing gates didn't come down and plent of credible witnesses. News
crew filming at the site later recorded only six seconds of warning
from gate activation until the train hit crossing.

Name: slack action
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 04 February 2012

Yeah Pintard: every 10 years?  Tell that to the dead people on the duck
boat that got hit by a barge in Philly.  There are numerous accidents
every year due to sucky brakes and no steering on boats, ships and
barges as well as all those fast bass boats that kill people every year
.  Son, you need to check your sources again.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 04 February 2012

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 03 February 2012

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/05/27/us/barge-crash-collapses-oklahoma-bridge.html

Yeah Slackie barge/bridge collisions are my top priority. The last one
only happened 10 years ago. ---The barge company owned by Warren
Buffett ---The company that rebuilt the bridge owned by Warren Buffett
---The DOT owned by US awarded a $2,000,000 bonus for completeling the
new bridge early. It hurt him so bad he had to settle with buying a
railroad.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 20-30 years
Posted: 03 February 2012

Does a train stop for anything?

Name: PinesisaMoron
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 03 February 2012

Folks, after that last article posted by Pines, I think we have
established that he is an idiot.  Guy runs the crossing, through a stop
sign, gets hit by train.  Whose fault is that?  Duh.  Buddy you are an
idiot of the first degree.  Go protest at all the stop signs now.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 03 February 2012

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/05/27/us/barge-crash-collapses-oklahoma-bridge.html

Yeah Slackie barge/bridge collisions are my top priority. The last one
only happened 10 years ago. ---The barge company owned by Warren
Buffett ---The company that rebuilt the bridge owned by Warren Buffett
---The DOT owned by US awarded a $2,000,000 bonus for completeling the
new bridge early. It hurt him so bad he had to settle with buying a
railroad.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 03 February 2012

Ben Hill man in ICU after train collision
http://www.walb.com/story/16665118/ben-hill-man-in-icu-after-train-collision

Good job CSX---you pulled off the 3rd blindside in 26 months at this 50
mph---over 30 trains a day ---two track crossing. You PROUD of your
crews MIKEY? Maybe you can have a octagonal stock split and pay
yourself more millions this year.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 03 February 2012

"""Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 02 February 2012
Pines,
I may be wrong if so someone will correct me.
The stopping distance at restricted speed is half of sight distance
not
2 times."""
Your right ---you need to going twice as fast as you need to be ---That
way you can back up and see what you hit.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 02 February 2012

Pines,

I may be wrong if so someone will correct me.
The stopping distance at restricted speed is half of sight distance not
2 times.

A yellow flag would be restricted speed regardless of the reduced speed
issued.

Name: slack action
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 01 February 2012

LOUISVILLE, Ky. — The voyage of a cargo boat that carries space rocket
components to Florida's coast for NASA and the Air Force has stalled
in a western Kentucky river after it slammed into an aging traffic
bridge.
Along with the cruise ship in Italy...

Pines: you have alot of work to do with the the sucky brakes and no
steering on these vessels...Now get to work son!!!  I want a full
report from you and the NTSB.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 01 February 2012

http://www.wkyt.com/wymt/home/headlines/Train_accident_ends_with_one_man_dead_138457594.html
Train accident ends with one man dead
'''“The arms actually started coming down as he was crossing the
tracks,”'''

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 30 January 2012

Actually slow is two times sight stopping distance when the railroads
equipment is in danger and pedal to the metal to the wall for the
public
being ran down by dogs.

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-01-30/railroads-get-5-more-years-to-add-crash-systems-in-proposal.html

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 30 January 2012

Kyle,

This guy has a point. why 10mph?
Most of you have seen these, one spot and ya drag down for 5 miles,
goes bump and ya drag another mile, then try to resume speed. Silly.

M&W has always reduced the speed to slower than slow, to protect their
ass. Just the way the RR works. No reason- just job security. Time to
turn them loose to reality.

The real funny part is as Kyle stated, we run the yard faster than
that. 

M&W always makes a big deal out of whatever patch they are working on,
as long as it is DAYLIGHT. Then they disappear, leaving the flags up
until they return in the am, and taking the time to pull the Flags,
load the truck, take a frigging break. I have seen yellow flags removed
Monday morning when no M&W folks worked from Friday afternoon.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 30 January 2012

"""Amazing how inaccurate news reports can be.."""
Especially railroad ----That have Associated Press in their pocket
thing.

Name: kyle
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 30 January 2012

funny cuz if the rails were maintained proper there would be no use for
slow orders, but it funny when the m&w puts a slow order on a main
track, most slow orders are 10 mph,fuck ya can run 15 mph on broken
down yard tracks, ie resticking speed, i have never seen a 10 mph slow
order put on a yard or industrial track, means you can run faster on a
yard track than on a main line, hell i have run at 30 mph on yard
tracks with no problems, not saying it was right but have done it, just
did not get caught, fuck i have seen yard hump engines run up and down
the hump at 20 mph or more,, just seems the m&w love to put 10 mph slow
orders on main tracks, why not make it at least 20 mph slow order on a
main, at least the trains can move with out getting bad signals. fuck i
have run over broken rail on  yard tracks and never had a derailment,
the m&w needs to get thier heads straight too.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 29 January 2012

Hey Robert:

Amazing how inaccurate news reports can be...what's even more amazing
is how unobservant people are, in this case for 25 years.

It's kinda like watching someone grow old...if you see them everyday
the aging process is almost imperceptible. If you don't see them but
every couple of years, it's pretty obvious!

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 28 January 2012

Seems like CSX let those tracks go 25 years ago NoMo. Reckon they are
dazed and confused? Looks like railroads are as bad as cable companies
---every time they sell the profit by the selling railroad has to be
made up by the consumer---the profits will never cover expenses so just
find new investor suckers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Carolina_Central_Railroad
 CSX sold both lines to RailTex subsidiary South Carolina Central
railroad on December 1, 1987

http://www.stb.dot.gov/decisions/ReadingRoom.nsf/8fd5532a0c425c5c8525740f005f36d4/f32e3a64828ee2898525685b0079c16a?OpenDocument&Highlight=0,Carolina,Piedmont,Railroad

http://www.stb.dot.gov/decisions/ReadingRoom.nsf/UNID/F32E3A64828EE2898525685B0079C16A/$file/30662.pdf

Petitioners state that, based on 10,250,000 shares of RailTex and a
$9.75 per share valuation for RailAmerica stock at the time of
consummation, RailAmerica will pay $138,375,000
in cash and $66,625,000 in RailAmerica stock for all of RailTex’s
stock.

Name: Roadrunner
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 28 January 2012

A buddy of mine that work for CSX as a conductor for more that 30 year
was fired because of a derailment that was not his fault due to a
switch that was not properly lock to the main, the head truck of the
unit hit the ground with no major damage to the unit and the train, I
think that they needed to cover somebody rear end by firing a
conductor.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 January 2012

A word to all the new "Track Inspectors". DO NOT LET anyone talk you
out of protecting your track with either a slow order, 213.9B, or out
of service.
  As long as you have the measurements, stand by your guns. I carry
alot of slow boards.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 28 January 2012

Hey Robert:

Looking at the map, it looks like it might have been part of the CSX
system at on time,

The question is...Did CSX sell the track or lease it? According to
the local station reporting the story CSX still owns the tracks. Over
the years I've learned that most of these small town media outlets
leave a lot to be desired in terms of accuracy and fairness. 

I don't believe I would hang my hat on anything they report without
independent verification.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 28 January 2012

Guess I had CSX in that Darlington County SC query NoMo. The reason CSX
only has two crossings listed in the whole county because they have no
tracks in the county and forgot to take those 2 off the record. Now
South Carolina Central RR Co., which is part of the jack up prices Rail
America Inc. scam has 113 Total Records of open crossings in the county
---even has a office in that town. The CSX thugs must hire out to other
railroads? Rip out other railroads property?

http://www.railamerica.com/RailServices/SCRF.aspx
South Carolina Central
SCRF
621 Field Pond Road
Darlington, SC 29540

Now go flag one of your 100s of blind crossings and study the 1st
Amendment.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 28 January 2012

Hey Robert:

Are you really that stupid or has this just happened to you say, since
the accident. It's the RR's right-of-way and they granted the
easement. CSX makes the rules, if you want to play, you play by their
rules. CSX would certainly require a flagman and the crossing wouldn't
take more than two days to repair...hardly a $100K job.

I think you need to understand the difference between a threat and a
suggestion!

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 28 January 2012

So why don't tell the truth NOMO? The property owner would be
trespassing on railroad property if he did repairs. So CSX probably
stuck a $100,000 bill in his face for the railroad to do the work. I
didn't see a wrongful detainer notice from the police did you?


Yep threats will get you in trouble
FROM NoMO"""In the mean tine, get your video camera and stand in the
crossing and wait for those incriminating shots!"""
FROM NoMo"""Fuck you and the horse you rode in on,"""

In fact I've had the go stand on the tracks threats many times. Makes
me wonder if the railroad hasn't really done it a few times since
injuries cost them more than dead trespassers.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 28 January 2012

Hey Robert:

Make sure you post the response from the FRA...we all would like to see
it. I'm sure the FRA's handler will get around to answering your 
letter when they get finished laughing!

At the risk of repeating myself, It's a private crossing which CSX
allowed with the understanding that the property owner maintain it.

The property owner bitched to the media making it a safety issue for
the residence hoping the city/county would assume maintenance.

Watch what you post...threats get you in trouble..."10 miles of tracks
and ties would be laying in Michael Wards spare swimming pool with a fix
your rotten rails notice."

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 28 January 2012

If they were related to me NoMo not liking thugs ---10 miles of tracks
and ties would be laying in Michael Wards spare swimming pool with a
fix your rotten rails notice. CSX trains tore the crossing up and it's
the railroads right of way to keep maintained. 

Anyway I turneed it in to the FRA for un-shoreing ballast creating a
derailment pit.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 28 January 2012

Hey Robert:

How is this story derogatory to CSX safety? CSX closed the crossing
because the owner let it, because of lack of maintenance, become
unsafe! Had CSX permanently closed the crossing the barricade would
have been substantial and permanent.

The owner said 30 days wasn't enough time to repair it...bull shit!
It might have been hard but not impossible. Did they request an
extension?. I'll bet the owner didn't have the money or didn't want
to spend it to repair the crossing.

This is a private crossing, the owner is responsible for maintaining it
and any damages due to their negligence!

Just a bunch of grumpy old widowers complaining...any of them related
to you?

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 27 January 2012

http://www2.scnow.com/news/2012/jan/26/darlington-county-residents-concerned-about-privat-ar-3124092/
Darlington County residents concerned about private drive closure

GOOD JOB CSX---Only thing you forgot is the real de-railers on the
derailment pile.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 26 January 2012

Hey Robert:

After some of the shit you have posted lately...your the one that needs
credibility,

It's all part of the plan. You guessed right, It's a huge conspiracy
and you exposed it.

Mr. Ward offered you a chance...you declined, fully knowing the
consequences.

Check everything..we have you covered.

In the mean tine, get your video camera and stand in the crossing and
wait for those incriminating shots!

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 26 January 2012

Then I got to thinking the SEC and IRS need some bigger sacrificial
lambs about right now NoMo to get their credibility up. You know a few
of "team" to take a hit. Oh what a tangled web.

Reported to your bosses yet?

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 26 January 2012

Hey Robert:

Feel free to contact them with your suspicions...they might even assign
you a "handler" like the FRA did. You might even be entitled to a
reward.

Keep in mind that the IRS is part of the "team" so you might get
audited.

We still waiting for those live videos of grade crossing accidents.

Brushed your teeth?

We're watching...

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 25 January 2012

NoMo I'll be watching you watching me.

Hmmm ---I think I have major tax evasion case on the whole CSX board.
The stock split income was 2011 and none was reported until 2012.
Wonder what the IRS thinks?


http://www.secform4.com/insider-trading/1165185.htm
Somebody explain how the stock can be between $50 and $75 when sold
and
under $25 when handed out?

Start 598,025 shares
(@ todays stock price)

10/24/2011
Gift of 160,000 shares by Michael J. Ward to a phanthom 501(c)(3)
charitable organization.
$22.82 x 160,000 = Ward gave away $3,651,200 to phantom charity.
Leaving 598,025 shares which 505,350 were from stock split. So on
6/15/11 Ward must of had 252,675 shares worth  $5,766,043.5. 
 On June 15, 2011, the common stock of CSX Corporation split 3-for-1,
resulting in the reporting person's ownership of an additional
505,350
shares of common stock. Nice $11,532,087  bonus. 
Since 252,675 + 505,025 would be 757,700 Ward had to sell  159,675
shares since June 15, 2011.
01/20/2012 Ward was awarded 718,419 more shares  awarded pursuant to
the CSX 2009 - 2011 Long Term Incentive Plan.
718,419 X $22.82 = $16,394,321.58
Leaving Ward owning 1,316,444 shares.
Ward then takes 257,516 shares and puts them into a phantom
Withholding
of stock to satisfy tax withholding obligation while the government
sits
with everybody elses tax withholdings for January in THEIR bank
growing
interest.
257,516 X $22.82 = $5,876,515.12
Leaving 1,058,928 shares but really 1,316,444 shares since tax shares
went nowhere.
Ward had 397,303 shares CSX Corporation Executive Stock Trust--On June
15, 2011, the common stock of CSX Corporation split 3-for-1, resulting
in the reporting person's ownership of an additional 264,869 shares
of
common stock--On June 15, 2011 Ward must of had 132,434.5  shares of
this stock. 
397,303 X $22.82 = $9,664,54.46 which
264,869 X $22.82 = $6,044,310.58 would be a bonus.
Ward also had 13,366 shares of CSX Corporation 401(k) Plan ---On June
15, 2011, the common stock of CSX Corporation split 3-for-1, resulting
in the reporting person's ownership of an additional 8,767 shares of
common stock.---(8)	By Trustee, CSX Corporation Savings Thrift Plan.
Reflects equivalent shares of cash value held in CSX Stock Fund, which
amounts will fluctuate dependent upon daily net asset value of the
fund.---On June 15, 2011 must of had 4,383.5  shares of this stock.
Another 215.5 shares must have been added on since On June 15, 2011.
13,366  X $22.82 = $305,012.12 which 
8,767 X $22.82 =  $200,062.94 would be a bonus.

Name: tom
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 25 January 2012

LOCO

Dont waste your breath with pines.  His old lady got smashed by a train
and he aint never going to stop crying over it..... He will always blame
the rr for it no matter what... what he needs is to get a real life but
he doesnt know how. Hes been crying the widowers song for so long he
doesnt know anything else...

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 10-20 years
Posted: 25 January 2012

Now is the time to rid CSX of the Nazi SS Brownshirts.   I am sure they
are all on pins and needles.  

Ward should get rid of the Atlanta Sta lag training center and move it
out to a more central location and out of the crime and drug infested
area it is located.

Name: School Boy
E-mail: 
Employed as: Engine repair, for 1-10 years
Posted: 25 January 2012

IF you don't like the company why work there? The good thing about this
great country God Made, is that you are free to work anywhere and not
forced to work here. So again I ask, why stay here? Why not leave? Oh
that's right, you can't get a BETTER job else where.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 25 January 2012

Hey Robert:

According to you this is the CSX safety sucks thread!

We'll be watching...

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 25 January 2012

http://www.secform4.com/insider-trading/1165185.htm
Somebody explain how the stock can be between $50 and $75 when sold and
under $25 when handed out?

Start 598,025 shares
(@ todays stock price)

10/24/2011
Gift of 160,000 shares by Michael J. Ward to a phanthom 501(c)(3)
charitable organization.
$22.82 x 160,000 = Ward gave away $3,651,200 to phantom charity.
Leaving 598,025 shares which 505,350 were from stock split. So on
6/15/11 Ward must of had 252,675 shares worth  $5,766,043.5. 
 On June 15, 2011, the common stock of CSX Corporation split 3-for-1,
resulting in the reporting person's ownership of an additional 505,350
shares of common stock. Nice $11,532,087  bonus. 
Since 252,675 + 505,025 would be 757,700 Ward had to sell  159,675
shares since June 15, 2011.
01/20/2012 Ward was awarded 718,419 more shares  awarded pursuant to
the CSX 2009 - 2011 Long Term Incentive Plan.
718,419 X $22.82 = $16,394,321.58
Leaving Ward owning 1,316,444 shares.
Ward then takes 257,516 shares and puts them into a phantom Withholding
of stock to satisfy tax withholding obligation while the government sits
with everybody elses tax withholdings for January in THEIR bank growing
interest.
257,516 X $22.82 = $5,876,515.12
Leaving 1,058,928 shares but really 1,316,444 shares since tax shares
went nowhere.
Ward had 397,303 shares CSX Corporation Executive Stock Trust--On June
15, 2011, the common stock of CSX Corporation split 3-for-1, resulting
in the reporting person's ownership of an additional 264,869 shares of
common stock--On June 15, 2011 Ward must of had 132,434.5  shares of
this stock. 
397,303 X $22.82 = $9,664,54.46 which
264,869 X $22.82 = $6,044,310.58 would be a bonus.
Ward also had 13,366 shares of CSX Corporation 401(k) Plan ---On June
15, 2011, the common stock of CSX Corporation split 3-for-1, resulting
in the reporting person's ownership of an additional 8,767 shares of
common stock.---(8)	By Trustee, CSX Corporation Savings Thrift Plan.
Reflects equivalent shares of cash value held in CSX Stock Fund, which
amounts will fluctuate dependent upon daily net asset value of the
fund.---On June 15, 2011 must of had 4,383.5  shares of this stock.
Another 215.5 shares must have been added on since On June 15, 2011.
13,366  X $22.82 = $305,012.12 which 
8,767 X $22.82 =  $200,062.94 would be a bonus.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 25 January 2012

RE: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years

Sounds like your the one who don't respect the trains or anything else
it sounds like. Now go duck tape yourself to the cow catcher and spew
your dribble.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 24 January 2012

Pines, you lost me when you said, "engineer made no attempt to stop." 
The distance shows a relatively short stop for a train moving over 20
mph.  I don't think you realize that if we stop for every douche-bag
that stops on the crossing or approaches a crossing, you ain't getting
you're Wheaties or any of your China-mart goods in your lifetime. 
People just don't respect the trains, and hopefully nobody else
(besides us poor suckers trapped on the engines) suffers from their
stupidity, impatience and misjudgement.  Always expect a train, always
know where you're at, and never stop on a freakin' crossing, for ANY
reason.  

Every crossing on my system has a posted number to call to report a
blocked crossing or malfunction.  Many times I must stop or slow my
train because some numb-nuts has dialed in to say a perfectly
functioning crossing is having a problem.  One genius took the time to
make several calls to AAA and his wife, and did not call the railroad
emergency number on a post 10 feet from where he was standing with the
tow truck driver when the train removed the car from the train.  People
are just not functioning.  If it's not on their Iphone app, they don't
know what the hell to do.  

Give it a rest.  99% of all train vs. Pedestrian or Vehicle are caused
by the medical condition "head up their ass."  My vow is, if I ever
hit a vehicle coming around the gates with kids in it- that driver
better be running before I get back there.  

I will say, in my area, Operation Lifesaver is a joke.  The guy who
runs it is so damn lazy it's pathetic.  Numerous times one particular
crossing has been reported, never have they set up on it to ticket the
morons who constantly run the gates.  It's not just us.

Name: LoCoMotion
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 24 January 2012

Pines

We do not stop until we have a confirmed hit.

tapes are never given up in discovery unless altered.

LoCoMotion

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 24 January 2012

I hope that NAZI turd David Brown takes his SS Trooper Bob Hoffman with
him along with all the rest of the ones he and Ingram brainwashed

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 24 January 2012

Hey Robert:

Yes we have a little work to do...

Take your meds.

We'll be watching!

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 24 January 2012

...CSX  trains would kill 1,354 people in the same 917,431,119
vehicle miles traveled.

Guess you missed the CSX has the second best KILL rate in the country
NOMO. Pin on blood and gut badges will be distributed soon to be worn
by train crews

That CSX labor costs went up 29 million so they cut $22 million in
bonuses which wouldn't be from the higher echelon.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 24 January 2012

Hey APE 20-30:

Actually Brown was "Dismissed from the service of the company" or
fired. Had he retired, left to pursue other interests or had health
problems, the press release would have said that...it didn't.

CSX just didn't want to say he was terminated because it would make
them look bad. It's all about spin and how to make "bad" news look
good!

Think back to when Ingram "retired"...his last day was 12/31 and his
departure was announced 6 or 8 week prior. I believe Ingram was given a
choice, retire or get fired. He chose to retire gracefully 
which allowed the appearance that it was his choice.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years
Posted: 24 January 2012

Actually, CSX said that David Brown "is no longer with CSX". Didn't
say fired, or retired, or left to pursue other interests, or had health
problems, etc. Just no longer with CSX.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 24 January 2012

CSX has to submit the yearly results to the BLEt for the productivity
bonus. Some years you'll get 100% others you won't. You people wanted
it. I voted against it. CSX made a profit not a record profit. They did
good in a down economy. 

I read yesterday that there were changes with the COO & CFO. They never
mentioned Brown only that Munez was taking over the COO slot. The NS is
off the property. Don't know what that means? Hopefully things will
change. I hope things improve for everyone out there that people can
get back to doing their jobs without intimidation. It would be good for
every including management. Hopefully those that liked the brown shirt
mentality will get canned. Starting with "Kangaroo Jack" in Newport
News a drunk obnoxious Aussie that couldn't run a Lionel train set
around an eight foot oval track without screwing it up. Mabey "Mr
Potato Head Frulla" will get back to being a nice guy again. One can
have hope. He was decent as a trainmaster years ago.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 24 January 2012

Labor and Fringe expense increased $3 million primarily due to the
following:
• Inflation related to higher wages and healthcare costs was $28
million.
• Training expenses were $9 million higher related to additional
resources to enhance customer service.
• Incentive compensation expenses were $22 million lower in 2011.
• Volume related and various other costs were favorable during the
quarter.

Name: btpino40@gamil.com
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 24 January 2012

Today U.S. Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood announced that for normal
drivers without sucky brakes and no steering  the fatality rate for 
drivers was 1 person killed per  917,431,119  vehicle miles traveled.
But the kill rate for idiot train drivers with sucky brakes and no
steering 
...Amtrak trains would kill 2,983 people in the same 917, 431, 119
miles traveled.
...BNSF trains would kill 679 people in the same 917, 431, 119 vehicle
miles traveled.
...CSX  trains would kill 1,354 people in the same 917, 431, 119
vehicle miles traveled.
...Norfolk Southern  trains would kill 674 people in the same 917, 431,
119 vehicle miles traveled.
...Union Pacific trains would kill 755 people in the same 917, 431, 119
vehicle miles traveled.
Secretary Ray LaHood  also said he was covering the railroads mass
trail of death and destruction just like the FEDS have forever.

http://www.nhtsa.gov/PR/NHTSA-05-11
U.S. Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood """ with 1.09 fatalities
per 100 million vehicle miles traveled"""
one death in 917,431,119 miles traveled

++++++++++++++++++
2010
1.03 - Overview Charts By Railroad
CSX---78.6 million total train miles
116 deaths
1 death every  every  677,586 miles traveled
CSX in 917,431,119 train miles has 1354 deaths.
Amtrak ---40.6 million  total train miles
132 deaths
1 death per  307,575 miles traveled
Amtrak in 917,431,119 train miles has 2983 deaths.
BNSF---169 million total train miles
125 deaths
1 death per  1,352,000 miles traveled
BNSF in 917,431,119 train miles has 679 deaths.
Norfolk Southern ---91.1 million total train miles.
67  deaths 
1 death per  1,359,701 train miles traveled
 Norfolk Southern in 917,431,119 train miles has 674 deaths.
Union Pacific ---  160.3 million train miles
113 deaths
1 death per  1,214,394 train miles traveled
Union Pacific  in 917,431,119 train miles has  755 deaths.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 23 January 2012

CSX had to FLUSH that BROWN TURD down the drain.  Too many train wrecks

Too much Harassment Too much Shit period.

Brown was not qualified to manage just to dick tate his Nazi hatred and
intimidation.

He should Win by Default the BIGGEST FLUSHED BROWN BANANA AWARD OF 2012
HANDS DOWN.

NO PUN INTENDED ON HIS LAST NAME BROWN.

Get out the new trophy  NoMo and send it to him.

Name: LOL
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 23 January 2012

Hey Corp....

If its been a record year for csx then why in the hell is Ward not
giving the engineers the 100% that they deserve!!  Last I heard he
couldnt decide between 70 or 80%.  We do our job out here. We deliver
the trains that we get called for. If we dont its because someone else
in another department has screwed something up again. So why should we
be punished... Just another crock of shit!  Oh, I almost forgot... have
any idea what kind of TEAM BUILDING excursion they have planned this
year for the big wigs where they get their monetary bonus undercover???
Trip to the casino? Maybe another paintball trip with spending cash?

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 23 January 2012

It's no shit:

         http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFvDFTiHQfU

Name: Corp Comm
E-mail: Bye bye Brown
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 23 January 2012

Dear CSX Employees,

 I am pleased to announce the appointments of Oscar Munoz as executive
vice president and chief operating officer and Fredrik Eliasson as
executive vice president and chief financial officer, effective
immediately.

Oscar and Fredrik are respected leaders, both inside and outside of our
industry, and people I trust to help guide and energize the organization
with the highest degree of success and integrity.  What means even more
to me than their leadership and business skills is their passion for
our company and its future.

Oscar replaces David Brown, who is no longer with the company.  As
stated in the press release, the company’s decision to make this change
is unrelated to CSX’s financial condition, business performance or
outlook, all of which remain strong.  We have a great operating team,
and I am highly confident that they will achieve even greater levels of
success in the future.

Dean Piacente will succeed Fredrik as vice president of sales and
marketing for the chemicals and fertilizer business, a position he held
previously.  Dean is highly respected among this customer group and the
transition will be seamless.  We will quickly identify a successor to
Dean for his financial planning and analysis responsibilities.

Also along with these new appointments, we are making a few additional
organization realignments.

Frank Lonegro and the Technology organization will be moved to
Operations, reporting to Oscar.  This change will ensure that there is
even more integration between Technology and Operations as we prepare
our company to implement Positive Train Control and maintain all of the
key systems necessary to run our railroad safely and efficiently.

At the same time, Fran Chinnici and the Purchasing organization and
Steve Crosby and the Real Property group will both report to Lisa
Mancini in her role as chief administrative officer.

We just completed a record financial year for CSX, and we believe that
we are headed together for a strong 2012.  Please join me in building
on the leadership changes announced today by continuing to deliver
top-notch performance in the year ahead.

Sincerely,

Michael Ward

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 23 January 2012

Hey Robert:

Brush you teeth or wipe you ass.

You don't know who made the video or the chain of custody. You ain't
got squat. Your posting old news that has been in the public domain
for years. Give us something we can use. CSX operates east of the
Mississippi. I know you have a heavy-on for the BNSF but we really
don't care what they, the UP or KCS do. Frankly, we really don't care
what the Dark Horse does but they at least run the same territory. It a
race to the top and we intend to win

So quit wasting our time and your whining. Keep up the good work with
the FRA. Get your video camera and go get us some live footage as these
occur.

If you want to continue to be obtuse, perhaps you should start you own
blog!

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 23 January 2012

Here NOMO watch the clip again. What --- you think the film maker rented
a couple freight engines, a truck trailer, a few Texas cops to make a
bogus film. U B Silly

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mo-L6634IKk&feature=endscreen&NR=1 
It's kinda confusing since the truck was actually hauling a railroad
tanker car. Guess the railroad didn't want to screw themselves on the
freight bill. Them there gates sticking straight up in the air ---one
would be all kinds of mangled if the gates were down.

Now go give your boss the report and leave my horse alone.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 22 January 2012

Hey Robert:

Garbage in...garbage out.

You submit a 2+ year old video, that may or my not have been edited,
was almost 5 minutes long and showed the cab of the truck being
removed. Not to mention forcing him to listen to what can best be
described as second rate porn music.

Mr. McFarlin blew you off in a subtle fashion.

It's all a plot you know...code named the "Pines Agenda" and we're
all in on it, Suzannah, RRJ, Slackie and yours truly...you only know by
our code names and as shadowy figures in the corner of your 
eye, watching you. This isn't the twilight zone...check your air,
water, food, toothpaste, deodorant even your toilet paper...we have
under the RR's control. 

The RR bosses feed you just enough so you occupy the authorities with
meaningless dribble while they rob the taxpayer's blind and murder
their enemies at rail crossing accidents with invisible trains with
advanced stealth technology that appear from nowhere. Their horns and
lights hypnotize them and keeps them from moving off the crossings; 
Even worse, puts them in a trance and draws them into the crossing.
Ever wonder why it's always 2 longs a short and another long? It's
saying "come to me".

Come with us Robert to the "Dark Side", where you will have fabulous
wealth, eternal youth and all the women you can handle. Mr. Ward has
authorized me to make this one time offer, it's only good for one
day.

Should you decide to insult Mr. Ward's by not accepting his
magnanimous offer, you will slowly go mad until our friends in Missouri
have no choice but to send you to the Funny Farm on Sodor
Island, where the trains talk to you!

Good night Robert...sleep tight and don't let those nasty bed bugs
bite. Sweet dreams!

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 22 January 2012

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mo-L6634IKk&feature=endscreen&NR=1 
So I sent the FEDs this Youtube video that a 12 year old moron with a
learning disability could see obvious gate failure and the train made
no effort to stop ---And I get back garbage
thomas.mcfarlin@dot.gov 
Jan 13, 2012
Dear Mr. Pines:
Thank you for your submission of the alleged violation information
through the Federal Railroad Administration’s (FRA) website.  Your
submission involved the highway-rail grade crossing accident occurring
in Gregg County Texas at approximately 4:37 p.m. on October 14, 2009,
at the Shady Brook Road grade crossing; your suggestion that the
railroad filed a false accident report assumedly based upon evidence of
the video you provided; and, your questioning as to why a train
traveling at 28 mph could not have stopped to avoid the accident.  I
have been asked to provide a response.
Let me first say that the FRA is very concerned with regard to all
highway-rail grade crossing collisions and places significant emphasis
on grade crossing safety through many various efforts and manners that
I know you are well aware of.  FRA specifically investigates such types
of accidents which involve certain levels of severity, as well as any
which involve a failure of an active warning system.  This subject
event did not reach either of those criteria and thus, FRA did not
specifically investigate the occurrence.
As for “the appearance” of perhaps the warning system not functioning
within the video, it is common practice that upon qualified railroad
personnel arriving at most any such a scene and in order to enhance and
assist in the necessary emergency response, the warning system is often
manually deactivated or “shut off” so that the lights do not continue
to flash, the gates are raised, and the audible warning (the warning
bell) is silenced.  This is to allow the most uninterrupted emergency
response and access of those personnel to the site, and it is certainly
not indicative of the warning system not having functioned properly at
the time of the accident.  The railroad reported no failure condition
of the warning system at the time of the accident and FRA has no reason
to believe any existed.  Therefore, the accident report filed by the
railroad is deemed as accurate.  Note that upon our checking our
database, there has not been even one activation failure reported at
this crossing location within the last 12 years.
 
As for the 28 mph train not stopping prior to colliding with the
vehicle, even at that “low a speed” and upon an engineer visually
determining that a vehicle ahead is not going to get out of the way and
there is need to apply the emergency brakes, trains take a long distance
to stop due to the great weight and momentum involved in a train’s
movement.  That is why it is so vitally important that vehicle
operators use every precaution when crossing a railroad and in
adherence to the warning system and associated signage provided for
their safety.
I trust this has responded to your concerns and thank you again for
your obvious interest in highway-rail grade crossing safety.
 
Sincerely,
Tom McFarlin 
Staff Director, Signal and Train Control Division
Federal Railroad Administration 
Office 202-493-6203
thomas.mcfarlin@dot.gov

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 22 January 2012

Hey Robert:

Is that all you got?

I told you the other day to think big or stay in bed...must be past
your bed time.

We'll be watching!

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 22 January 2012

Well today NOMO I put no trespassing signs on my horse because you
threatened her.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 22 January 2012

Let me see if I can dissect Pines' last post...

The Email from the DOT was sent on Nov. 08, 2007, more than 4 years
ago.

A handler? That would lead you to believe Pines was a secret agent 
working for the FRA/DOT. Maybe, but only in his mind. In fact, some low
level employee or even an intern was assigned to patronize him
because he became so annoying, he interfered with the taxpayer's 
business.

Pamela Foggin insisted she be taken out of the loop unless Pines
made a claim or statement so outrageous, she could get some mileage out
of it around the office.

As for sinking the railroads ship...I'm not aware of any RR's that
have been shut down or even any civil fines or criminal charges brought
as a result of Pines' clandestine secret agent type activities!

Pines...tell us what you've done lately?

Slack...I think you are in the right church but the wrong pew. Fulton
State Hospital (Missouri State Mental Facility) is better for his
issues

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 22 January 2012

Slackie you could say county lock up but then you could say was he
gathering enough video/audio evidence to sink the railroads ship.

I liked this one ---How many people have their own FRA handler. The
information is PUBLIC since we pay for their wages and equipment!!

From: pamela.caldwell.foggin@dot.gov
Date: 11/08/2007 12:11:19 PM
To: beth.crawford@dot.gov; stan.ellis@dot.gov; pino40@fidnet.com;
List-FRA-SAFETEAM@dot.gov
Cc: tom.woll@dot.gov; ronald.ries@dot.gov; Inga.Toye@dot.gov;
robert.portsche@dot.gov
Subject: RE: Closed crossings
Stan:  wish to add my two bits to this.  Ron sent me an email earlier
that affirmed that there is someone who was identified to handle Mr.
Pines’ emails.  Not sure who, but it would be a good thing to find
that
out.  Who knows, maybe it is someone you included in the original
response.  

That being said, if you want to continue to help him that is great,
and
a good thing…

Since I do not want to risk sending a mixed message w/whatever
response
is generated by the person who is addressing Mr. Pines’ concerns, I’d
just as soon not be included in the email responses/updates on his
issues unless the resolution is something I will need for future use
w/others.

always eXpect a train

Pamela, 3-6291

Name: slack action
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 22 January 2012

Pines has been warned by the FRA, NTSB and numerous other federal
agencies as well as local authorities for his actions. You notice Pines
was gone for about a year... HINT: can you say county lockup.

Name: suzannah
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 22 January 2012

Hey Pines,


Better be careful when posting information from personal emails you
receive from the FRA! Seems a few of them may not be to happy with you
posting replies with their names on here!  Be funny if you get bit by
the hand you are trying to get fed from!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 22 January 2012

Pines

All one has to do is ignore posts that you feel aren't pertinent to
the subject matter of "Safety First". That's what I do with your
postings. lol

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 22 January 2012

Hey Robert:

Fuck you and the horse you rode in on,

If you don't like it, feel free to go elsewhere!!!

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 22 January 2012

Seems like NOMO and RRJ think their on a CSX Company suck butts page.
Hint BOZOs this is a CSX SAFETY sucks page.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 21 January 2012

NoMo

In a way you're right CSX does own a person to a degree. The
individual in the same degree also owes their lifestyle to CSX without
it most likely it would mean some sacrifices starting new somewhere
else at the bottom. One is free to leave at anytime nothing is
preventing them from their own destiny. I know a few individuals that
got out after 20 years (240 months credit in RRB) started their own
businesses. Which under RRB rules they never broke their connection by
working a job paying into social security. Once a person leaves the
railroad working another industry that pays in to social security the
RRB transfers the tier II money upon their retirement. The railroads
make out the tier I never gets paid. So, the idea of vesting has a
double edge to it mostly it only comes into play with a disability. I
have a friend who took a buyout in the late '80s from the railroad he
had a little over 10 years. He thinks he'll have a small retirement
from RRB. Problem is when he left he worked for Coors at a brewery for
a few years before starting his own business. I haven't the heart to
tell him he screwed up. That he'll solely be dependent on what little
social security will allot. Not a lot of places a person can retire at
60 years old with a full pension working a blue collar job anymore plus
a stipend for the spouse. I look for social security to up the age of
full benefits to 67-68 in the near future.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 21 January 2012

Hey RRJ:

Interesting observation.

I don't know for a fact but an educated guess, especially for the old
heads is that between 50 and 60 percent of their net wealth is tied up
directly or indirectly in CSX stock.

Even the new hires with only a year or two. CSX contributes up to 7.5%
in your 401K. Gives you stock and allows you to buy stock through an
ESOP at a discount. You have to have 10 years of service to be 100%
vested in your 401K.

After 10 years RR Retirement kicks in, as do the vacation and PL
days. You seniority should allow you to hold a good job...etc.

When you really thing about it, unless your willing to take a sizable
financial hit, CSX owns you.

So if CSX fails so do you.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 21 January 2012

Railroads aren't going anywhere especially CSX. CSXtitanic that's a
good one. What ya'll don't realise is CSX is in better shape today
then it was in the '90s under John Snow. Snow nearly had this railroad
in bankruptcy with his purchase of 49% of Conrail. The NS wasn't any
better with the 51% of Conrail. They set off a bidding war which both
ended up paying 5 times what it was worth. Snow didn't spend on the
infrastructure the railroad was deteriorating. Times change that's a
fact. 

One can't compare Google to CSX. 60 Minutes has done shows on the like
of workplaces like Google ect...no structure which might work there but
this is a railroad no comparison. 

I just find it ironic people commenting on CSX failing which the only
thing that would happen is you would be out of a job. Ward & the top
echilon would walk away multi-millionaires. You would walk away with
nothing. If one hates it that much not talking about the job but CSX
itself quit put in applications for other railroads then relocate.
There are thousands waiting to fill the slots. People who are hungry
that have been unemployed or working at low paying occupations. Even
those that make a simmiliar income know the benefits on the railroad
are far superior to those elsewhere especially the retirement system.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 21 January 2012

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2079408/Fifty-Chinese-rail-bosses-punished-Wenzhou-train-crash-killed-40-people.html

Fifty-four Chinese rail bosses to be 'punished' over train crash that
killed 40 people

Read more:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2079408/Fifty-Chinese-rail-bosses-punished-Wenzhou-train-crash-killed-40-people.html#ixzz1k4YMxmKk

It was not yet clear if those officials will be prosecuted or
ultimately receive the death penalty

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 20 January 2012

APE

You just described the CSXTitanic    

Holy Freakin Cow

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years
Posted: 20 January 2012

Everyone who looks at RR history to see where it leads to will realize
that increased efficiency leads to greater profits, bonuses, and stock
sale prices. You can become more efficient in many ways, in various
economies. However, the simplest way for a non clever person to improve
efficiency is to cut staff and maker each employee work HARDER, not
smarter.The really smart folks work for Google, etc. Given that fact,
everybody that works here should be preparing for the day when they
bail out. CSX have just tightened up their tuition assistance program,
as example, but you can still get a lot of stuff paid for, to help you
in civilian life when needed. A lot of this is available on line 24/7.
You can learn to run a small business or get skills in many ways. If
you used to do brake work or remodel kitchens try to do some on the
side to keep your contacts and experience. I know this is a killer
w/work schedules but push hard. What you can't do is sit around in a
blue funk making you, your family, and co-workers unhappy.If you are on
a cruise ship you hope everything is fine during your journey, but you
know the emergency exits and keep a life preserver handy, just in
case.Don't rely on the captain of your cruise ship or your company to
take good care of you - he might be looking out for himself instead.
So, keep your options open and your parachute packed - just in case.
There are a lot of talented people working out here who have other
skills in storage, or can learn them. Keep them fresh in case you are
activated for a new job.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 January 2012

He Brakeman:

Enjoy your retirement, I'm sure it can't come soon enough. Just
remember those kinder, gentler days of John Snow...a lot of younger
guys probably don't believe that CSX was once a great place to work!

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 January 2012

http://www.bnsf.com/media/speeches/pdf/railroader_of_the_year.pdf
________________________
Help me with the math here train crews ---the benefit ratio is 22:1---
How does the railroad figure this ratio? $454.5 million for payouts for
the death and destruction in five years without the proper safety
equipment which makes it pre-meditated murder I figure or $10 billion
with the proper safety equipment  What about the next 10 years? What
about the RRs savings/earnings the years before now? Personally I think
a railroad track television channel would be much better.
________________________


In fact, there is a clear trend in recent years toward making 
our business more difficult and costly.   
The best example that I can give you is the positive train 
control mandate--a $10 billion expenditure by 2015.  The cost 
benefit ratio is 22:1.  The railroads will have to cut other 
expenditures to pay for it.  We spent $9 billion last year on 
maintenance and expansion, and we’ll spend $9 billion this year, 
except $700 million of that will be on the first steps of PTC 
implementation.  What will fall out of the budget?  What will fall 
out when the PTC spend is $1.2 billion a year in 2011?  
Expansion?  Certainly!  But what about tie replacement and other 
things that make the railroad safer?  It’s not a threat, it’s just the

way it is.  Something has to give.  There needs to be a more reasonable
deployment of PTC, and Congress has to help us pay 
for it.  Congress should enact a railroad tax credit this year!   
_____________
$454.5 million

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 30+ years
Posted: 19 January 2012

Nomo 

Life after the PTC will be a one man Engineer on the train.

Failing to protect your job and doing it rather than sleeping will
help prolong it.

CSX has had 3 rear enders of recent and 3 of the 5 the NTSB is looking
into for why?

Ward should cut his losses and fire Brown for his antiquated safety
Nazi tactics of harassment and intimidation plus his no day off for any
freakin reason.   

Leavin Soon to Retire

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 January 2012

Here's a little light reading while you enjoy your morning cup.

http://openchannel.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/01/18/10186068-railroad-companies-fight-safety-rules-with-help-from-gop-and-obama

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Engine repair, for 20-30 years
Posted: 18 January 2012

Pictures are worth a thousand words.    Here is 2k


http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=386573

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=386574

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 January 2012

Hey Robert:

Why does the sun come up every morning in the east? Because it just
does...so why ask why? Because if you couldn't,you would be dead!

Now here's a question to ponder...If God created the heavens from
nothing, who created God?

There may be 30 billion Earth like planets in the universe that spans a
diameter of 93 million light years. If that's the case, certainly
several million are capable of life...are we truly the most advanced
species in the universe or did we crawl out of the primordial ooze?

Pour yourself four fingers of the good stuff, sit back and think deep
thoughts...in other words, do it big or stay in bed!

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 January 2012

Does the media ever think
Hmmm
1. Why wasn't the train video camera paid for by the tax-payers not 
seized "immediately"by OUR cops and is being taken  off the train by
the RAILROAD?
2. Where is the railroad guy/gal going with that train event recorder
with the train speed, lights, horns, brakes, etc...recorded?
3. Why is that railroad worker taking that box out of the signal
house?
4. Why is that train crew not being tested for drugs/alcohol?
5. Where is the track video linked to the trains to compensate for the
sight distance the train can't compensate for and get stopped?
6. Why under the trains there 100s of square feet to have better
braking and there is not?
7. Why there is little fencing along tracks and no lookout towers along
the tracks?
8. Why train stations don't have gates to open AFTER the train stops
so people won't fall on the tracks?
9. Why trains go 50/6070/ mph through train stations/towns and they
don't through railyards?
10. Why RR keep out signs are MILES apart in many places?
11. Why their had to be witnesses and never are against the railroad
and our cops use railroads hear-say?
12. Why the railroad is allowed around the crime scene at all?
13. Why the railroads get to self-investigate and Jeffrey Dohmer
wasn't allowed to?
14. Where the equipment the railroad removes after killing/ injuring
someone goes?
15. Why we are paying the Federal Railroad Administration and the
Federal Transit Administration millions and they never show up unless
the media attention is beyond local level and the railroad needs a good
cover story?
16. How the NTSB /FRA never finds fault with the railroads.
And on the phoney Operation Lifesaver/Officer on the Train stings
ticketing everything in sight.
1. Why nothing is ever mentioned about any of the above?
2. Why nothing is mentioned about blind crossings?
3. Why nothing is mentioned about the missing signals at blind
crossings?
4. Why the so-called Operation Lifesaver people are all ex-railroad or
work for the state DOTs?
5. Why that train is just sitting there forcing the crossing signals to
work DARING people to cross?
6. Why OLI never mentions train speeds which are set too high through
populated areas?
7. Why OLI never mentions the highly toxic cargos of these train bombs
going too fast?
8. How in the world the police can ticket the drivers for stopping 
behind the gate and not  at the stripe on the street which is supposed
to be 50 feet from  the tracks?
9. Or if the driver needs to stop 50 feet away why isn't the gate 50
feet away from the tracks?
10. Why the railroads crossing signals fail Federal road standards that
a signal has to give the drivers time to obey?
11. That the no green light(safe to proceed) and no yellow light
(proceed with caution) on the decades old crossing equipment design are
completely missing and the drivers are ticketed when the red comes on
right in their face and they can't possible stop?
12. That the other 364 days a year the railroads do nothing to keep
away people from the tracks and just on the day with media attention
they become dirty rotten trespassers with un-Constitional high fines?
I DON'T GET IT BIG DAN

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 14 January 2012

Again, Pines just shows his stupidity.....

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 13 January 2012

Hey Slackie finally found a RR subject you might know something about.
Where do zippers go?

http://www.leagle.com/xmlResult.aspx?xmldoc=In%20FCO%2020120111139.xml&docbase=CSLWAR3-2007-CURR
---he saw another supervisor on his knees near XXX while the latter
pretended to zip up his pants.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 13 January 2012

So Slackie

The green light in the picture is for the squirrels to scratch for nuts
or what?

http://napervillesun.suntimes.com/photos/galleries/index.html?story=9872091

Name: slack action
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 12 January 2012

Pines: I tried to help you out, The answer is a TRACK LIGHT IS RED , are
you stupid:   I answered your question...


 LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION: ARE YOU A RETARD?

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 12 January 2012

So Slackie

What does  a green light mean in train crash territory?

http://napervillesun.suntimes.com/photos/galleries/index.html?story=9872091

Or is a green light guardian Angle in the picture ---top left middle if
your blind.

Name: slack action
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 12 January 2012

Doctor Pines: Your question is, why is a track light green?

A: A track light is not green it is red in TC territory  

A green line means a train has a signal in TC territory.

THERE IS NOT A TRACK LIGHT IN DTC, TW OR ABS TERRITORY 

I hope this helps you out.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 12 January 2012

CSX have like a file drawer with excuses to use Marked "In case of
_this happening___ use this excuse?" Open the drawer to many workers
get sick file and it says blame Jimmy Johns.

http://www.myfoxchicago.com/dpp/news/metro/jimmy-johns-valparaiso-train-crash-wreck-emergency-responders-health-department-sick-food-poisoning-20120111
Jimmy John's Made Train Crash Rescue Workers Sick

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 12 January 2012

http://www.chestertontribune.com/PoliceFireEmergency/111122%20was_it_something_they_ate_trainw.htm
Was it something they ate? Train wreck responders reported flu-like
symptoms
"""LaFlower said that throughout Friday night there were well over
100 personnel at the scene of the train wreck: firefighters, police
officers, EMS, CSX officials, federal investigators, and haz-mat
specialists."""

I guess the CSX officials, federal investigators, and haz-mat
specialists must of eat steak and caviar than.

Name: tom
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 12 January 2012

?

Sure would like to know where you work. Might considering taking a
transfer there. A supervisor who is actually human and might have a
heart. There are supervisors where I work that love to test. They live
for it. When the crews are on their toes and they dont get any hits
they go out of their way to come up with ideas to "GET YA"!
Just had one put 3 switch tag testers out on one guy... They also
banner tested a crew twice in the same damb track in the yard.   Talk
about overkill! CSX loves recruiting these kind of people. These kind
of tactics have nothing to do with safety. Its just their way to get a
nut!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 11 January 2012

Hey ?:

I have no doubt what you say is true. Back when I left there were
plenty of Supervisors that would go out of there way to look out for
you.

Unfortunately, CSX put them in a no win situation...do you job and 
someone will hate you. I am and have always been of the opinion that
supervision is there to help labor do their job, not hinder them.

When Ward hired Ingram he fucked labor, the stakeholders and
supervision...most of all he fucked himself. He never has and never
will obtain the award he so desperately wants...being the safest Class
I.

When Brown ascended to the thrown, I thought he might cut his own
trail. He didn't, it was easier to follow Brown's...what a
douchebag.

There was a way to handle the testing that the men would have
understood...just be straight forward and tell them when, where and
what they were going to be tested on and that each of them would
receive failures and that your hands were tied...just don't do
anything that would result in any extra attention being drawn to
yourself.

The supervisors could and should have raised hell...they didn't, not
that it would have made any difference. Ward is so far removed from the
line that it's laughable. Reminds me of Les Miles...when things are
going good be jovial and act Presidential and take credit...when things
go bad you look like a Deer in the headlights and pass the buck!

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@g-mail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 11 January 2012

Seeking of scrap ---Why don't you all arrest yourselfs for theft?

http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr&rgn=div5&view=text&node=23:1.0.1.7.27&idno=23#23:1.0.1.7.27.2.1.6
(3) The State and FHWA shall be afforded a reasonable opportunity to
inspect materials recovered by the railroad prior to disposal by sale
or scrap. This requirement will be satisfied by the railroad giving
written notice, or oral notice with prompt written confirmation, to the
State of the time and place where the materials will be available for
inspection. The giving of notice is the responsibility of the railroad,
and it may be held accountable for full value of materials disposed of
without notice.

Name: JJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for N/A
Posted: 11 January 2012

is so right it hurts to say it but now we can start getting rid of bY
the old blind coots.

Name: ?
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 11 January 2012

NOMO,


Thank god someone finally has seen the light.  Now maybe they will lay
off of us. You may not believe it, but there are alot of supervisors
out in the field that are sick of having to find failures on employees
that they didnt deserve just to get our mandatory failure rates. Its
all just a scheme to make it look like no matter what the industry
leaders do, the employees arent going to follow the safety rules. Looks
so much better in court when they try to defend themselves against
injury suits. If the big bosses wont get that bonus anymore maybe they
wont be so worried about the injuries. Let the lawyers battle it out in
court!

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 11 January 2012

CLARENCE W GOODEN cashed out $775,239 in stock 01/03/2012 on a expired
license leaving him like $8 million in stock left.


OMB Number:	3235-0287 Expires:	December 31, 2011

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 20-30 years
Posted: 10 January 2012

I would not expect any great change in the Railroad Safety Culture at
the NS or CSX.   It takes a lot of time for things to change.   


You can expect a faster change when you change the upper management who
are educated and experienced to do it all differently.

These Leopards are not going to chance their spots.    It might have
come to a peak of Nazi practice maybe for a while.

The real item of money will control how they chose to act.  

If Ward and Brown put out a carrot to eliminate something or someone
then some middle manager will take it and try to catch it.

Now maybe the UTU and BLET might have some backbone to fight for
workers who elected them to fight for what is right.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 10 January 2012

Take note of this...this may be a very big deal!

http://utu.org/2012/01/10/rails-scrap-controversial-safety-award/

Rails to scrap controversial safety award

January 10, 2012
 
It has taken more than a decade for railroads to connect the dots and
recognize that their annual Harriman Safety Award contest, which tied
managerial bonuses to low reportable injury rates among workers, was
creating an unfortunate incentive for supervisors to intimidate and
harass workers not to report minor on-duty injuries.

This week, the Association of American Railroads said it would send to
the dust bin of history that controversial annual  safety award.

Indeed, the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA)
observed in 2011 that one railroad’s culture of intimidation and
harassment permitted that railroad to “maintain the appearance of an
exemplary safety record.” Of another railroad, OSHA said that the
carrier had “created a climate of fear instead of a climate of safety,”
and that the railroad “must take immediate steps to change this
unacceptable pattern of retaliation.”

For years, the UTU collected file drawers full of verified complaints
from members of carrier intimidation and harassment following an
on-duty injury. An attempt was made – in collaboration with the Federal
Railroad Administration – to convince railroads to change the formula
for judging carrier safety records so as to discourage employee
intimidation and harassment.

When that effort failed, the UTU turned to Congress — the result being
a section of the Federal Rail Safety Act of 2007.

The law’s purpose is to protect rail workers from retaliation and
threats of retaliation when they report injuries, report that a carrier
violated safety laws or regulations, or if the employee refuses to work
under certain unsafe conditions or refuses to authorize the use of any
safety related equipment.

The law also prohibits an employer from disciplining an employee for
requesting medical or first-aid treatment, or for following a
physician’s orders, a physician’s treatment plan, or medical advice.

Following passage of the law, and with assistance of UTU Designated
Legal Counsel, evidence of intimidation and harassment of workers by
railroads was delivered to OSHA, which began imposing significant fines
and punitive damages.

The AAR said, in announcing cancellation of the Harriman award
beginning in 2013, that “a yet-to-be-determined program” will be
created in its place to “encourage the sharing of best rail-safety
practices across the industry.”

Said UTU National Legislative Director James Stem: “We congratulate the
industry for moving in the right direction. A much less controversial
process — one by which labor, management and our suppliers agree
rewards safe operations – will benefit the entire industry. We look
forward to turning the page and working positively with the industry in
this effort.”

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 10 January 2012

http://amarillo.com/news/local-news/2012-01-09/one-person-dead-railroad-tracks#.Twyglm_OVcI
Railroad accident kills BNSF employee

Rail grinders don't have safety shields like my skil-saw?

Rail grinders---ear plugs---cold weather ---communications devices.
Kinda like the rabbit traps I use to build.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 10 January 2012

Hey Bartley Boy send the complaint to the FEDs

http://www.fra.dot.gov/

Alleged Violation Reporting Form (right side about seven things down)

or send it to me and I will since the FRA will turn you in.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 10 January 2012

http://www.thetimesnews.com/articles/car-49774-maintenance-vehicle.html?fb_comment_id=fbc_10150457136523255_21198830_10150458544223255

DUH ROBIN---WHAT GATE???

Rail maintenance vehicle hits car

Norfolk Southern Corp. Director of Public Relations Robin Chapman said
Wednesday night that the driver allegedly drove around the crossing
gate at the intersection before the rail maintenance vehicle struck the
vehicle.

Name: RUKidding
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 10 January 2012

To LE 30+:
You mention that you are "pro union", yet the facts you cite in your
diatribe on the current state of unions is a little off the mark, as
are your comments on who is to blame for the current state of affairs.
First, union officers who make $300K a year? really, I suggest you look
at the DOL website and search for your respective unions LM reports
where the salaries of those union leaders is a matter of public record
for all to see. I also doubt you'll see any salaries in the range you
suggest.
As to our current contracts and situation, it can be argued that the
UTU placed us in that position, or on the path of going the PEB route,
but the fact remains, that the unions within PEB243 were told by the
people in the congress that if the issue actually came to them,
they'dve shoved into us even more, quite possibly wrecking the RLA and
RRB in the process of "helping us". This should be cause for concern
because it shows where the real issue lies, that being the congress we
elect of office doesn't represent us, they represent those special
interests who supply the most dollar wise. Now who might that be?
Surely not the unions who essentially operate on a shoestring money
wise. Hell we get grief from our repective memberships for a
$1.00/month increase in dues while the bozos in congress take 10 times
that from us without so much as a whimper from those same folks who
gripe at the $1.00 increase.

Most union members don't care about what goes on between contracts,
either within their union, or the congress. They only look at things
from that brief time and say to their union "what are you going to do
for me?" Nevermind that in between when that union member should have
been caring and paying attention the whole time, congress cuts the rug
out from under the union by being beholden to the Carrier who supplies
those congressmen with the $$ for re-election. And we wonder why we're
in the proverbial pickle? That union that you seem to despise is in
actuality protecting you rights and helping to keep your standards of
living at par or better than the nation as a whole, all while you
happily go to work in between contracts and pay no mind to what gos on.
The whole time protecting you from forces that would love to strip that
which you have away from you. If they could do it all at once they
would. They can't because of some of things the union brought to you
(i.e. RLA, mediation, workers rights laws just to name a few).

We all need to wake up and see where the process has gone wrong and
start doing something about it instead of standing in the shadows, and
then bitching about the very folks who do our battles for us 365/24/7 .

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 10 January 2012

Hey BB:

Thanks...I went back and found the original post after I made my last
post.

Don't have the slightest idea what the rules for a highrail operator
are with regard to speed or crossings. You're right though about a
double standard...we'll see if CSX holds Frulla to the same standard
as they do the contract employees.

Some years back a LORTM in Mobile rear ended a wagon in the yard with a
crew in it...I think it was covered up because the only thing I heard
about was posted by a yard clerk here.

Name: Bartley Boy
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 09 January 2012

NoMo,
He hit a coal truck on a flashing crossing while he was high railing
the subdivision all alone. The highway was on old KY Route 7 at
Huueysville, KY.

He hit a coal truck belonging to BRC trucking.

It is definitely a fact and soon Mike Ward who is CEO and used to be VP
Coal Sales years ago will know very soon about it after I get ithe KSP
report scanned into an email!

Hope this clarifies it for you!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 09 January 2012

Frulla is not the first DM to get in some rule violation.    

He will boogie out of it unless The Fuehrer approves of his hanging.

CSX Quasi Justice

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 January 2012

Hey BB:

I guess I'm a little confused...was Frulla on a public street or was
he highrailing?

Seems a little odd the police would be called for an on-track accident
involving a highrailer and just as odd that he would not be qualified
on the sub driving on a public road!

Name: Elroy
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 09 January 2012

Any news, comments,or information on bob frulla having a highrail
accident?Its all over the Huntington division, whether rumor or truth.

Name: Goober
E-mail: CSX sucky brakes . com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 January 2012

Pinenuts & Nelson still at it. Leave this site for a year and smae old
same old. Rolay Tide puts SLU In spin. Take Bamma in 28 point win! 
RCO's have at it.  Twinkies for all.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 January 2012

Hey BB:

Sounds like they should have given him a sobriety test! 

That may be a lot more common than you think...I know at least one TT
that was put on "Medical Leave" for getting a DUI.

See if Frulla disappears for a month or two...if he does, you know what
happened!

Name: Bartley boy
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 09 January 2012

To NoMo

Frulla is the manager and he called for his own wrecker, and he was
alone in the vehicle as it shows only 1 occupant. It was a 2008
suburban and I checked and they DID HAVE ANTILOCK BRAKES THAT YEAR!! So
he lied to the police about tried to stop and it slid. The truth is that
he was not qualified to run the subdivision , but that is ok because I
am going to email Mike Ward a copy of the accident report and ask him
if he is going to protect the stockholders interests by placing Frulla
on the street for a few months or life for all I care. They preach
Safety but don't hold a division manager accountable? Seems rather
odd!!! Especially when he is trying t cover it up. 

Frulla needs to MAN UP!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 January 2012

Hey Goober:

You think the RRs trades up every couple of years...some of their power
is almost as old as you :) Although BNSF has some nice power.

Some of the newer jacks with all the bells and whistles had screens
with gauges on them, some have dials on the top of the tank, most still
rely on sight glasses.

There is more to the story than the BNSF is telling...at 1930 it's
pitch black out and there no way you could see a sight glass without
standing on the ground and virtually impossible to see a dial on top of
the tank.

The fuel should have been check before they departed so low fuel
shouldn't be a concern on that leg...the inbound YM may have asked
about the fuel and they may have been short of time.

The con didn't know his territory and if the engineer did, he didn't
do anything to stop the con from doing something stupid...totally
avoidable!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 January 2012

Sight glass on the fuel tank? I would think with today's technology, It
would be on the dash. I do not know, so kill me not.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 January 2012

Thanks NOMO

I'll be sending Matt Rose this article.
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/fuel-gauge1.htm

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 January 2012

Hey Robert:

The fuel gauge is a sight glass on the side of the tank.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 January 2012

http://www.theeagle.com/local/Inquest-ordered-in-train-death--6852287

I'm confused ---Why wouldn't the train have a fuel gauge?

Name: btpino40@gamil.com
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 January 2012

http://napervillesun.suntimes.com/photos/galleries/index.html?story=9872091

I'm confused ---Why is the track light green?

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 January 2012

Hey Loco 10-20:

Would that be Bob "Potato Head" Frulla?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 08 January 2012

Has anyone heard about the Huntingotn Division Manager hitting a coal
truck while high railing on territory he was not qualified on? I also
do not think he was operating with 100% rule compliance  The accident
report floating around on the Big Sandy Subdivision shows the division
manager BOB  was going too fast and was at fault. He should have been
operating  prepared to stop at the crossing or approaching it making
sure it was clear i believe, and also should have been at LEAST
qualified on the territory.  Hard to lie about the vehicle sliding when
the newer model vehicle had antilock brakes!! Good try Bob!

I am going to email this report to the CEO Micheal Ward and see if he
cares about safety once and for all and 100% rules compliance or if
this is just what they tell the FRA!  If Ward has any gumption about
him he will fire BOB for lying to the police about the sliding vehicle.
Isn't it still against the rules and a chargeable offense if you lie
about matters under investigation?

bye BOB!!!! 

P.S. - How does it feel?

Name: slack action
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 08 January 2012

Name L&N:  I agree with you, I would answer Pines on ANY safety matters
because he does not understand how the railroad operates, which was
evident with his response to your post. Pines has been asked numerous
tmes what makes him so qualified on RR operations...  and he REFUSES TO
ANSWER THE QUESTION?  I really feel sorry for the poor FRA people who
have to deal with his idiotic letters and phone calls on a regular
basis.  I wonder if Pines told the FRA they need to put a steering
wheel on the eng. OH man , I bet they are laughing so hard if he
did.... Boy, I bet they are getting tired of his stupid antics.

Pines here is a little hint... please  trespass and walk down the
middle of the tracks while texting, listing to your ipod, talking on
the phone because a train will stop every time before they hit you. 
The gene pool needs some thinning out...

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 January 2012

Hey Other

That's not counting the one in downtown Indy by the old GM plant, Who
knows how many others arcross the system, may have been a single day
record!

Name: kyle
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 08 January 2012

1-5-2012, beaver falls pa, ns rr 15th street road crossing- 18 yr old
highschool girl walks in front of a double stack train going 50 mph,
county corner said it was a sucide, engineman & conductor had to watch
when she did it, gates down,red lights flashing.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 07 January 2012

So how does the injured crew work? The yard master like thump them in
the chest yelling "GET UP YOU AIN'T HURT" like my high school
football coach did.

robert.portsche@dot.gov to btpino40@gmail.com,
RCorrespondenceStaff@dot.gov, Jacqueline.Harris.CTR@dot.gov9:05am

Mr. Robert Pines:
 
Dear Mr. Pines:
 
Yes, I can imagine that this rear-end collision and subsequent
derailment and fire involving CSX in Porter County, Indiana, could have
been the reason for the accident reporting personnel being busy
yesterday afternoon.  However after I left work on Friday evening,
January 9, I did receive a email from the CSX Manager responsible for
accident reporting.
 
I was provided with the record keeping documents for the conductor and
the engineer that were involved in the October 5, 2011 highway-rail
grade crossing accident in  Bradner (Wood County), Ohio.  This
documentation reflects that both the engineer and conductor initially
complained of some pain immediately after the impact.  The engineer
complained of pain in the right side of his back, and the conductor
complained of pain in his hand and back.  However after both employees
were examined by EMS personnel at the scene of the accident, the EMS
personnel released the employees without need for medical treatment.  
 
Therefore based on this documentation, neither of the train crew
members involved in this accident sustained injuries that would have
required CSX to file a Form FRA F 6180.55a under our accident reporting
regulations at 49 CFR Part 225.  
 
In this accident, I see that the railroad crossing over U.S. Highway
No. 6 is equipped with gates and flashers, that were operating
properly.  The truck driver apparently observed the flashers begin to
activate and when attempted to stop, his motor stalled  while his
truck-trailer was foul of the crossing, causing the accident.   I also
checked the grade crossing accident history for DOT ID No  228816S, and
find that it is recorded among the other grade crossing accidents that
have occurred at this crossing since 1975.  
 
Thank you again for bringing this matter to our attention so that we
could ensure that the data reported by the railroad, and as shown in
our database, are as accurate and complete as possible.
 
Sincerely,
 
 
Bob Portsche
Federal Railroad Administration
1200 New Jersey Avenue, S.E.
Mail Stop 25 - Room W35-117

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 07 January 2012

"""Any more news?""" Yep---CSX can afford to pay Michael Ward $20
million a year but can't afford the on train/track equipment to
prevent one train from rear ending other which side swipes the third
train.
How much along track video monitoring linked to the trains could have
been bought with these damage costs. Last check two employees hurt.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 07 January 2012

Three train wrecks at one spot including a rear-ender. That's not
good!
Any more news?

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 07 January 2012

Evan

Sounds like sour grapes. With over 70% voting in favor of ratification
the majority rules. I figured seeing you cried about it on every thread
I'd do the same. lol

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 06 January 2012

Jun 9, 2011
12/09/2011
So Slackie ---Why would you post months old BS articles over TODAYs
train crash?


http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/01/freight-trains-collide-in-nw-indiana/1?csp=34news

http://www.nbcchicago.com/traffic/transit/train-accident-porter-county-indiana-136825653.html

3 freight trains collide in NW Indiana, trigger massive fire

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 06 January 2012

That's good Slackie Did you see the real safety message?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlm34c35FoM

What Engines Are Really Thinking: CSX SUCKS!
Buccephalus I see now how that UP Scheme worked. Hmmm--Metras
(tax-payers) part would be what $66 million ---Total work was maybe $16
million and UP made $50 million!!!

The “Another Train Warning System” is part of a $132 million project
funded 50-50 by Union Pacific and Metra and comes at a time when the
railroads are lifting “train curfews” to allow freight and commuter
trains to approach the West Line stations while commuter trains are
stopped and offloading passengers, including during rush hour.

Name: slack action
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 06 January 2012

IDIOT DRIVER BEWARE


CHICAGO (CBS) – When it comes to train crossings, Metra says close
calls happen way too often.

On Thursday, police set up stings to stop them, CBS 2’s Kristyn Hartman
reports.

If a train is barreling your way, common sense dictates you stay off
the tracks.  But not everyone has common sense.  You’ve probably seen
video of people running in front of the train.

Longtime Metra passenger Carol Boltz sees it all the time.

“All the time,” Boltz said, “It makes me angry.”

It frustrates Metra, too.  So, for International Grade Crossing
Awareness Day, the rail agency got the word out about those gates you
see and those bells you hear.  The rule is simple.

“When they start coming down, or when the ringing of the bells begins,
vehicles should stop. Pedestrians should stop,” Metra Officer Henry
Palm said.

During a sting at a Tinley Park station, he had to make a driver stop
and back up away from the crossing.

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During that same sting, CBS 2 observed cars and a bike press to beat
the train, even as the gates were on their way down.

That’s hardly everything.  Metra conducted a near-miss experiment and
reviewed video from crossings from a 24-hour period.

It shows all kinds of bad behavior, such as a  man dangerously close to
the tracks, and clip after clip of pedestrians walking or running to
beat the train.

“It’s not worth the ten seconds,” Metra Spokeswoman Judy Pardonnet
said.

Last year, a woman who had a child in her arms tried to outrun the
train.  They didn’t make it.

Tickets for trying to beat the train can run up to $500. During the
Tinley Park sting, police verbally corrected bad behavior.  At some of
the others, they wrote tickets, and even arrested a driver who tried to
get around the gates

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 06 January 2012

IDIOT DRIVERS BEWARE:

Union Pacific conductor Mike Howes radios instructions Friday. Police
and railroad officials stepped up enforcement around rights of way as a
message to stay safe near trains. (Andy Holzman / Staff
Photographer)With six people killed by trains in the San Fernando
Valley this year, police on Friday issued new warnings about rail
safety and stepped up efforts to cite people for violations. 

The new enforcement effort came even as Anaheim authorities were
investigating the death of a man hit in his car by a freight train
Friday. 

Police on Friday cited a total of 34 drivers for railroad violations
and six pedestrians for trespassing, including several homeless
individuals who had cut through fences to set up encampments, police
said. 

Anyone not using designated railroad crossings, such as those walking
parallel to the tracks - even on the shoulders - can be considered
trespassing on private property, police said. Pedestrians and drivers
who go around lowered gates can also be fined. 

Of the six train deaths in the San Fernando Valley this year, two were
by suicide. Three were reported within just the last two months. 

"The force of a 30-car freight train hitting your car is equivalent to
the force of your car crushing an aluminum soda can," said Capt. Ivan
Minsal of LAPD Valley Traffic. "You're talking about tons and tons of
force coming across that rail against your 5,000-pound car or your
200-pound body." 

Last month, a 72-year-old woman was killed by a freight train in
Pacoima. Police believe she was talking on a cell phone and did not
hear the approaching train. 

"That phone call can make you lose your life," said 
---
Union Pacific Railroad spokeswoman Lupe Valdez. "You'd be surprised
how quiet these huge trains can be." 
An engine weighs about 400,000 pounds and carries 5,000 gallons of
diesel fuel. 

Passenger trains typically travel about 68 mph. Cargo trains move about
55 mph and can take up to one mile to stop. 

The trains extend about three feet from the tracks on both sides, but
that doesn't include hoses, pipes or equipment attached to the cars,
police said. 

Officials recommended that pedestrians stay at least 15 feet from the
tracks, and to get out of cars stalled in a train's path. 

"Trains always have the right of way," Minsal said. "They're the
big guys ... you will never win."

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 06 January 2012

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/01/freight-trains-collide-in-nw-indiana/1?csp=34news

http://www.nbcchicago.com/traffic/transit/train-accident-porter-county-indiana-136825653.html

3 freight trains collide in NW Indiana, trigger massive fire

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 06 January 2012

'International Park:' Name changed to alleviate dangers at railroad
crossing

http://www.times-herald.com/local/Change-made-to-alleviate-dangers-at-railroad-crossing--2014977

When truck drivers attempt to cross the tracks at Walt Sanders Road,
they often get stuck -- with more than 100 such incidents since 2003.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 06 January 2012

The majority members of the BLEt ratified the contract. They could of
rejected it. You state screw CSX, UTU, & BLEt but you like those yearly
bonus checks and pay raises in the CSX/BLEt on-property SSA. Those BLEt
members who don't have on-property contracts like the Union Pacific
had a bigger stake then those on CSX. Can't blame them for wanting a
20 1/2% increase compared to only 18% if it went the distance and
congress forced the PEB. It only affects your healthcare the BLEt did
manage to get delays for 18 months on full implementation compared to
the UTU contract. Blame the UTU they're always first to sign if they
had a backbone by joining the other rail unions it might of been
different.

Name: Evans
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 05 January 2012

The national was ratified.  This proves the carrier can and will do
whatever it wants.  Healthcare isn't what it was just wait till next
contract.  We will even give up a little more.  The time I retire the
carrier wont contribute nothing. 


Utu, Ble, Csx   FUCK YOU

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 05 January 2012

Seems like BNSF can find some gates to steal real quick when it's their
employees getting blindsided!

Safeguards installed at site of fatal BNSF train collision
Burlington Northern Santa Fe Railway installed automatic flashing
lights and crossing gates at the three-track crossing Dec. 20 where
three people died in March when a freight train struck their van, BNSF
spokesman Gus Melonas said Wednesday.
Meanwhile, the Federal Railroad Administration's investigation into
the March 23 accident should be ready for public release in the next
two months, spokesman Mike England said Wednesday.
Killed in the crash at the Kelso train yard were Coach America shuttle
van driver Steven Sebastian of Castle Rock and BNSF employees Tom Kenny
of Shoreline and Christopher Loehr of Seattle. A third railroad
employee, Dwight Hauck of Auburn, was injured. State officials say a
parked train would have made it difficult for the driver to see the
Seattle-bound train that struck the van.

092454B--Private At Grade---Passenger Service: AMTRAK---Total Trains:
53---Maximum Time Table Speed: 75---Type and Number of Tracks: Main: 2
Other: 1--Crossbucks:2 Highway Stop Signs:2

====Accident    1 ===== RR report NW0311200 ===== Crossing ID 092454B 
===== 
On Mar 23, 2011 a FREIGHT TRAIN operated by BNSF Rwy Co. [BNSF] hit a
VAN at approximately  4:25PM in Washington in COWLITZ county  on
PRIVATE road.  The incident occurred in/near KELSO city. The rail
equipment was reported to have been traveling at 047 Mph with  3
locomotive(s) and 106 cars(s).  The VAN had been traveling in an
easternly direction at 009 Mph. 
The railroad was operating on main line track over a private road
crossing.  It was cloudy, during the day and the tempe
rature was  59.  There were  3 death(s) and   1 injured in this
incident and a Railroad Injury/Illness Report (form FRA-
55a) was also filed. The 59 year old male driver was moving            
on the crossing and was reported to have not stopped.  There were  4
occupant(s) in the vehicle.  The view of the track was obstructed by
standing railroad equipment. Hazardous material was not being
transported by rail or highway vehicle.  
The crossing was protected by:                                         
                                                
    Stop signs, Crossbucks                                             
                                                
         --GRAND TOTALS--Retrieved 1  report(s) For 1  accident(s)
invoving     3 locomotives and     106 cars    Causing 3  deaths and 1 
injuries

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 04 January 2012

L@N
"""Just a little hint, don't walk down the middle of
the tracks listening to your Ipod because you will be a hood ornament
for an EMD."""

So your a murderer railroad safety guy who can't give examples?

Name: L&N
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 04 January 2012

Name Pines: Son, when you understand a little more about the RR, I will
try to explain RR safety to you. For me to explain what I have done to
a person who thinks the answer to safety is puttin a steering wheel on
a train, that would be a hugh waste of my time.  You need to educate
yourself alot more about the RR and how it OPERATES, ( Hint, it has
nothing to do with the Roman Empire ) Then I will tell you. You seem
you are not even interested in learning. you are just being bone
headed.  Either you don't listen or you don't want to learn.  You
need to grow up.  Just a little hint, don't walk down the middle of
the tracks listening to your Ipod because you will be a hood ornament
for an EMD.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 04 January 2012

So L&N my safety task for today. This report shows train crew were
injured in the cause but not entered in the injury count or any other
injury report I can find. Is that legal? Crossing collision history
shows 5 other CSX crew hurt in three other collisions. They also left
this collision off of the crossing collision history because like 3
collisions in a year isn't good.

Now your keywords are US6 road: Lack of yellow before red on the junk
signals: Write your report

=====Accident   23 ===== RR report 000095293  ===== Crossing ID 228816S
 =====                                          
On Oct 05, 2011 a FREIGHT TRAIN operated by CSX Transportation [CSX ]
hit a TRUCK & TRAILER at approximately  8:56AM in 
Ohio in WOOD county  on US6 road.  The incident occurred in/near
BRADNER city. The rail equipment was reported to have b
een traveling at 035 Mph with  2 locomotive(s) and  75 cars(s).  The
TRUCK & TRAILER had been traveling in an easternly 
direction.                                                             
                                                
The railroad was operating on main line track over a public road
crossing.  It was clear, during the day and the tempera
ture was  65.  There were  0 death(s) and   1 injured in this incident
and a Railroad Injury/Illness Report (form FRA-55
a) was also filed. The 54 year old male driver was stalled or stuck  
on the crossing and was reported to have (unknown)
.  There were  1 occupant(s) in the vehicle.  The view of the track was
not obstructed. Hazardous material was not being transported by rail or
highway vehicle.                                                       
                        


                                                                       
                    The crossing was protected by:                      
                                                                   
    Gates, Standard flashing lights, Bells (audible), Other devices    
                                                


                                                                       
                                                


                                                                       
                                                

E43403 WAS EASTBOUND ON #2 MAIN ON PEMBERVILLE SUB WHEN A TRACTOR
TRAILER INITIALLY WAS NOT SLOWING DOWN FOR THE CROSSIN
G BUT WHEN PROTECTION DEVICES ACTIVATED THE TRUCK DRIVER APPLIED HIS
BRAKES AND SLID TO A STOP. THE TRUCK ENGINE STALLED
 AND DRIVER WAS UNABLE TO RESTART IT. THE TRAIN STRUCK TRUCK IN DRIVER
SIDE DOOR. TRUCK DRIVER AND TRAIN CREW WERE INJUR
ED. PROTECTION ALSO AT CROSSING: ADVANCE WARNING AND PAVEMENT MARKINGS.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 04 January 2012

So L@n you've done nothing for railroad safety you can write about?

American railroad tracks are 56.5" wide (the "gauge") because the
English built the first railroads in America and they used that width.
Why did they use that width? Because the first rail lines were built by
the same people who built the pre-railroad tramways, and that's the
gauge they used. Why did "they" use that gauge then? Because the
people who built the tramways used the same jigs and tools that were
used for building wagons which used that wheel spacing.

Why did wagons have that particular odd wheel spacing? Because older
wagon ruts throughout England used that spacing, and if they changed
it, wagon wheels would break by either falling into or being forced out
of the old ruts, which were 56.5" wide.

The old ruts were that size because the roads were built by the Romans,
who arrived in England in 54 BC and left about 400 AD. Their wagons, and
their chariots before their wagons, used that spacing, and that spacing
was used all over Europe and wherever Rome conquered, because their
wagons used the identical wheel base everywhere. So the modern railroad
track width derives from the Roman chariot.

Why was the Roman chariot track width 56.5"? Because that was the
width of a chariot that would equal the width of two "standard" Roman
horses. Thus, wagon and horses would fit through the same narrow street.
Specifications and bureaucracies live forever!

Such curious dimensions continue today. A space shuttle sitting on its
launch pad has two big booster rockets attached to the sides of the
main fuel tank. These are solid rocket boosters, or SRBs, made by
Thiokol at their factory in Utah. The engineers who designed the SRBs
might have preferred to make them a bit fatter, but the SRBs had to be
shipped by train from the factory to the launch site. The railroad line
from the factory had to run through a tunnel in the mountains. The SRBs
had to fit through that tunnel. The tunnel is just wide enough to
accomodate a railroad car, and the railroad track is about as wide as
two horses' behinds, (and we now know why) so the booster rockets were
made to fit.

The major design feature of what is arguably the world's most advanced
transportation system was determined over two thousand years ago by the
width of a horse's ass!

Name: L&N
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 03 January 2012

Name Pines:  I stated that you did not know how the railroad operates
and you bring up Roman chariots...  Just what the hell are you talking
about.  Chariots have NOTHING to do with how the railroad operates. 
You just do not make any sense.  You talk about loads being top heavy
and tipping over, again your lack of railroad knowledge is coming out. 
Loads DO NOT tip over you idiot. 



What have I done for railroad safety, you ask.   I have done more than
you can possibly fathom.  I would explain all that I have done but your
lack of railroad knowledge would just be a waste of my time.  Besides,
you would not understand it anyway but I will tell you this, it does
not include steering wheels on engines.  You say you are pushing for
the RR to be charged 3 times the amount for violation?  First off, who
the hell are you any way?  What are your qualifications?  What makes
you an authority?   Son, you are a wanna be foamer.   How about stiffer
fines for people who put engr and condr lives in danger when they BREAK
THE LAW and run through gates, talk on the cell phone.  How about  I I
D installed in all automobiles.  People who do not pay attention put
everyone on the road in danger.  When they do not pay attention and go
across RR tracks they put there own lives in danger...



People who pull out in front of trains do not live.  But you have to
ask yourself a question, Do I feel lucky, well do you ya, you
moron...Son, you need to wake up and smell the diesel fuel...In a way I
kind of feel sorry for you.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 02 January 2012

Just a comment on Sucky Brakes.

Pines is a nut, however he is on the topic when he says Trains have
Sucky Brakes.

Light engines in my time (with a cab) were the worst. It was so
unusual, every move (Main track) was dangerous.

Just moving a locomotive is easy, stopping is something else. The old
brake shoe is so obsolete.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 02 January 2012

What?

So 2012 is going to be one of those years!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 02 January 2012

Pines, are you for real? Get a life and stay the hell off this site....

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 02 January 2012

Name: L&N
'''Mr Pines: It is obvious you do not know how a train or the
railroad 
operates.'''

Sure I do. The tracks were put into the Roman chariot ruts and are two
horse asses wide. The idiot railroads haven't figured out wider is
better on the top heavy loads tipping over.

I sent Mikey Ward my Christmas lights to light up the front of the
stupid blue colored trains. Also some used sneakers and blue prints of
the hydraulics and arms to be fitted in between the existing wheels for
better breaking.

What have you done for RR safety?

Also am pushing for state/feds to fix all found railroad violations and
charge the railroads three times the costs.

Oh --- In case you never heard of defensive driving:::
The standard Safe Practices for Motor Vehicle Operations, ANSI/ASSE
Z15.1, defines defensive driving as "driving to save lives, time, and
money, in spite of the conditions around you and the actions of
others."[1] This definition is taken from the National Safety
Council's Defensive Driving Course. It is a form of training for motor
vehicle drivers that goes beyond mastery of the rules of the road and
the basic mechanics of driving. Its aim is to reduce the risk of
driving by anticipating dangerous situations, despite adverse
conditions or the mistakes of others. This can be achieved through
adherence to a variety of general rules, as well as the practice of
specific driving techniques.

Name: L&N
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 01 January 2012

Mr Pines: It is obvious you do not know how a train or the railroad 
operates.  What you have purposed is absolutely ridiculous.  First off,
a train runs on tracks and is operated not driven.  I guess you do not
know the laws, regulations and personal accountability when you drive a
car.  Maybe there should be a law that every car STOP at every railroad
crossing at grade and the driver be responsible for his/her own
actions.  I have scrolled back and read some of your comments, and
frankly son, you really do not have a clue.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 01 January 2012

http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr&rgn=div5&view=text&node=23:1.0.1.7.27&idno=23#23:1.0.1.7.27.2.1.6

(3) The State and FHWA shall be afforded a reasonable opportunity to
inspect materials recovered by the railroad prior to disposal by sale
or scrap. This requirement will be satisfied by the railroad giving
written notice, or oral notice with prompt written confirmation, to the
State of the time and place where the materials will be available for
inspection. The giving of notice is the responsibility of the railroad,
and it may be held accountable for full value of materials disposed of
without notice.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 01 January 2012

Hmmm-- Like using my sneakers for brakes on a my run away go cart the
train steering wheel would run the belly brakes on the bottom of the
rail cars and brake parachutes on the top of the rail cars. In the
middle of the steering wheel the video monitors linked to the along
tracks video monitors of the mile of track coming up. You know to make
up for the non swerve capability of the train. Swerving is any
defensive driver book.

Just the other day a gas truck was blocking my road.

Name: PO
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 01 January 2012

GET the vacations in..  Jim,  get off your fat ass and put the vacations
in..

Name: Jim
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 31 December 2011

Ringing in 2012 and CSX still sucks!

Name: L&N
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 28 December 2011

I don't know much about this Pines guy but it looks like he is a self
proclaimed expert in an industry he knows absolutely nothing about. 
How can this guy be taken serious about railroad matters when he thinks
a train needs a steering wheel, he has zero creditbility.  I still think
he a drunk or like Suzanne said, a little boy playing with his daddy's
computer.  But hey, maybe he can tell us how a steering wheel would
work on an engine.  Maybe Pines can start installing them on roller
coasters, monorails, trolley cars, then he can move up to putting 
steering wheels on Kentucky Derby horses.  Man, that would be a
jockey's dream but we all know horses have sucky brakes.

Name: Cariline
E-mail: Treecherries@yahoo.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 27 December 2011

http://www.courier-journal.com/article/20111227/ZONE10/312270063/CSX-Bullitt-County-train-wreck-court-criminal-Brooks?odyssey=tab%7Ctopnews%7Ctext%7CHome

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 26 December 2011

Hey Suzannah:

I thought you were in Florida enjoying the sunshine and drinks with
paper umbrellas?

Pines goes back a long way. I thought he had died because he was gone
for a long while.I have now concluded he was taken to Fulton by the men
in white jackets and butterfly nets. He either convinced them he was
sane or escaped;)

I haven't seen Dave Nelson on here in a good while, last I heard he
was living up in Tennessee on a farm. At least there were some lively
discussions on here when they were both posting. At least the topic
stayed on safety.

Name: SUZANNAH
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 26 December 2011

Kyle,

I put my very first post on this site in 2006.  OH how time
"flies"(HA! Railyard joke). I distinctively remember Pines constantly
posting on here about all the accidents at public road grade crossing
and blah blah blah about the gates and how the steering didnt work and
train had sucky brakes...... 6 years later and its still the same
crap.... I think its pine Jr posting the junk. As many times as the
"old pines" was corrected you would think he would get a clue!  I
think its a mini-me version of pines! Apple didnt fall far from the
tree!

Name: kyle
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 25 December 2011

Hey pines--- steering wheels on locomotives, LMFAO, you better start
watching that tv program,, are you smarter than a 5th grader, you would
get a big f on the 1st question, and hmmm just what are SUCKY brakes?
You don,t even know the proper piston travel for rail cars &
locomotives.......

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 24 December 2011

Train going by too fast with sucky brakes and no steering.

Looks like they are just drunks trying to get attention or someone who
is mentally challenged is what I always thought.

http://www.jessupmfg.com/updates/GB_EgressPathwayStrips_&_GB_Tape.pdf

Name: L&N
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 23 December 2011

This Pines guy is one stupid moron or he is just as clueless as a
Christmas Goose.  He can't really be serious because if he is I hope
he does not drive a car. He seems to have all of the answers but zero
solutions.  Just how would a steering wheel work on a train, would they
come with blinker lights. I don't think he understnds how a train
operates because he sure made some ignorant statements. Looks like he
is just a drunk trying to get attention or someone who is mentally
challenged.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 23 December 2011

Hey RRJ:

His argument is rather juvenile...reminds me of the old come back
"is to" or "is so" or even "my Dad is better than yours"!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 23 December 2011

Pines

LOL! I could give a crap if these people ride their ATV's, dirt bikes
ect...on CSX property. It's your hypocracy that is in question. It was
you who posted the article with all it's flaws trying to pin blame on
CSX. That makes you a fool.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 23 December 2011

http://www.jessupmfg.com/updates/GB_EgressPathwayStrips_&_GB_Tape.pdf
Brandy Bowen, 34, was killed when she ran into a metal beam on NE 25th
Avenue. Police say Bowen didn't see the bar because the ATV was not
equipped with lighting equipment.
So I sent Michael Ward a roll of illuminating tape for Christmas ---
You reckon 
A. He will have it put on the the horizontal gillotine so somebody else
doesn't run into the deadly trap or
B. Write : I'm a greedy low life on his 18th spare bedroom wall?

NOMO/RRJ ---Three times over the limit is the moron driving a
freight/passenger train too fast with no brakes nor steering. Tell me
the difference!!!


Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 December 2011

Hey RRJ:

Riding at night with no helmet or lights on private property with a
suspended license while being 3 times over the limit. What could
possibly go wrong there?

Frankly I'm surprised she could sit up and wasn't passed out.

I don't know about the territory you ran but this is a big hunting
area and these guys don't think twice about riding the rails. I've
seen a few get strung out on trestles and barely make it off. The look
on their faces is priceless...don't know if it was from a near death
experience or that warm mushy sensations in their pants!
Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 17 December 2011

NoMo

He's as blind as riding an ATV without lighting equipment. It's his
article that states she didn't see the barrier because the ATV
didn't
have lighting equipment. Even in areas without these barriers  signs
are
posted CSX private property no trespessing. You're right if it
didn't
have barriers he would blame CSX for something. lol
Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 December 2011
Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 December 2011
Hey Robert:

Give it up...you lose on this one...CSX placed the barrier on their
property to keep trespassers off the tracks. These people get on the
tracks and ride for miles.

If there wasn't a barrier and the woman was killed, you would be
whining because CSX didn't have the path protected.

You can't have it both ways so which is it? Posting stories like this
one only hurts what little credibility you have. Or are you saying
it's okay to operate a vehicle while you're 3 times over the limit?

Name: numbutt
E-mail: csx is king
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 21 December 2011

Csx is good at putting nothing in writing. I mean notta.  God Bless !
Happy Shunuka ! Thank your lucky stars for Intermodal & containers. The
fudge is packed in the slammer.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 20-30 years
Posted: 20 December 2011

Sounds like Flo is blowing some CSX Sunshine up our Butts
Company Suck
LOL
LOL
LOL
LOL
LMAO
LMAO

Have a Happy CSX Christmas and Happy New Year

Name: suzannah
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 20 December 2011

?????

Im guessing numbutt, ward1 aand brown1 are trying to be funny???? NOT
LAUGHING!!! Christmas time is a time to be HONEST, LOVING, and a time
to show good will towards all men/women... Do us all a favor and let
those who obviously cant do that speak for themselves.

Name: Billy E
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 10-20 years
Posted: 20 December 2011

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year..

Name: brown1
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 1-10 years
Posted: 20 December 2011

Your bonus will be sent by the 24th Dec.

Merry Christmas

Name: ward1
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 1-10 years
Posted: 20 December 2011

Merry Christmas

We're shutting down Thursday the 22nd at 2359.  Everyone enjoy your
family and friends.  Don't worry about rushing back to work.  We will
start dh on the 2nd of Jan.2012.  

thanks for a great year

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for N/A
Posted: 20 December 2011

Numbutt


What exactly is CSX best at??????????????????

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 20 December 2011

NoMo

These social media sites are BS. I tried to explain it to a friend that
if I have 500 people on my list and they have the same up to 25,000
people have access to my information. Those that embrace it live in a
non-realistic world. I'm afraid the younger generations are losing
social skills needed to adapt to the real world. The only reason I'm
on it is my high school was in Korea and most of my classmates live all
over the country & world. It's pretty ignorant to use it as a venting
site for problems, personal relationships ect....It's also
irresponsible of parents with young children if they don't monitor
these sites. Just have to read the news of bullying, suicides, rapes,
murders ect....I'm sure that wasn't it's original intent.

Name: numbutt
E-mail: csx is king
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 December 2011

Thank you Santa. You will get a shot & beer chaser when you come down my
chimney. Don't let Prancer poop on my roof.   Numbutt.

Name: santa
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 19 December 2011

Hey numbutt,

When you get that big peice of coal in your stocking, its gonna be from
a csx coal train!    Merry christmas!

Name: numbutt
E-mail: csx is king
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 December 2011

CSX is the Best !   Merry Christmas & Happy New Year !

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 December 2011

Hey RRJ:

If she had stayed in the Bayou she wouldn't be loading boxes and
probably not slipped and broken her leg.

My oldest daughter made a comment about her supervisor on her Facebook
page and it cost her three days. She and my oldest son are
at odds over comments he made on Facebook.

I wonder what makes people think that their friends really care
what, who or when they are doing someone or something. Once that
information hits the web, it lives forever. Besides, a little mystery
makes it a lot more interesting!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 19 December 2011

NoMo

My sister ended up in Long Beach, Ca this past summer staying with a
friend. Wasn't there a couple days had a freak accident broke her leg
in three places a teloscopic break. Doctors were puzzled breaks like
this only occur in falls like skydiving, 4 story falls ect...she
slipped off the bed of a pickup truck taking boxes out of a storage
unit. It's getting better the past couple weeks she's been able to
walk. It's delayed applying for a job. She figures LA area the job
market in her field would be better. My feeling and that of her
daughters if she would of stayed in Houma, La kept applying she would
have already moved on to another job.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 18 December 2011

Hey RRJ:

Sorry to hear about your sister...where did she end up?

A CSX Facebook page??? I checked it out, looks like it's for all
the pubescent foamers. 

I think you're right...I don't believe CSX will allow anything
critical of them to be posted...imagine that!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 18 December 2011

Kyle

My sister who works in the healthcare industry got fired earlier this
year for posting on Facebook. She was the director of a department at a
hospital she has a Phd highly educated. She thought she sent me a
private message about frustration over someone that worked for her. It
wasn't a PM it posted on her FB wall. By the time she got to work that
morning she was terminated. A co-worker did a rant on the FB CSX site
they barred him from posting on it. Lucky that was all they did. I know
he was worried that it put a target on his back. At least here one can
keep their identity shielded.

Name: kyle
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 18 December 2011

You are correct rrj you can and will be fired if you give out company
info to news media peeps, I was always told in event of accident not to
talk to news media peeps about it, Ie name, rank, serial # i can,t blame
the rr for that cuz we all know how the news media will twist a storie
and 99% news peeps have no clue about rr operations, Hell some tm,s &
rfe,s dont even know about that today.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 18 December 2011

One thing right CSX is a tough place to work. The one you're wrong on
is the pay. A slacker on CSX can make an easy $55,000+ with some effort
$75,000+ a go getter $100,000+. Money isn't the problem it's the harsh
disciplinary policies. Facebook? The average consumer doesn't matter
they haven't any impact on CSX. There is a CSX site not like this one.
The biggest concern a person could be fired for publically discussing
company business. I know people that have been kicked off the CSX FB
site.

Name: Aaron Cross
E-mail: cindermydawg@gmail.com
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 17 December 2011

I think you guys should make a Facebook page mimicking this site. Now
days if you want things changed you need a petition to do it. Its the
next best thing to a strike and actually losing your job. Facebook now
days boosts companies' reputation with the "LIKE" button, or it can
destroy them or even make it better for their employees.. all it needs
to do is spread like a disease over facebook, regarding the lack of
pay, compensation, and general "fuck you work anyway" attitude CSX
has for its employees, and once the bad publicity spreads enough CSX
will have a hard enough time finding buisness from companies wanting to
use their rail cars for transport for fear of a strike or bad morale the
employees who transport their goods hold for CSX. 

im gonna tell you a story, I learned this in a leadership course in the
NAVY.

its called "The 10 monkeys Story" regarding how to change things.

There are 2 monkeys in a cell. the cell has a banana hanging from the
ceiling and a fire hose pointing inside the cell.. both monkeys tried
reaching for the banana and got blasted by the fire hose every time
they attempted for it. after a week another monkey was placed into the
cell... the new monkey went right for the banana and the other 2
monkeys beat the shit out of him.. 1 and then 2 and then 3 more monkeys
were added to the cell and each time the new monkey went for the banana
the other monkeys beat the shit out of him.. and pretty soon this
happened still when there were ten monkeys in the cell.. they would
just beat the shit out of whatever monkey wanted to go for the banana
not realizing the fire hose was already taken away.


point of the story is, the fire hose is one guy, one guy who set rules
or procedure maybe 10 years ago, and everyone back then followed it,
and after awhile that one guy (fire hose) left and everyone else just
kept implementing and beating the shit out of everyone else because
thats just how its always been.. Just because things were that way
once, doesnt mean it cannot be changed or someone else can make
changes.. 

for example, A boss(the fire hose) got sick of one person in particular
sitting down when there was no work to be done, so he set a rule that
even if its -0 degrees outside when  theres nothing to be done you will
stand outside in the cold untill something comes up. well it goes on
like that for awhile 1 year goes by and that old boss (the fire hose)
is gone, and people are still standing around outside waiting for work
to do, even the other bosses inforce it not even knowing the original
reason for it.. and then it never changes.. you will always be standing
out side freezing your ass off unless you question why it came to be
like that or do something about it.



Im sorry for the long statement, but I really feel for you CSX
employees makin 40k for a job you should be making 50-60k doing. and
what is worse is that for the low money you do make, you are treated so
shitty and get screwed over so much.


<<<Not an Employee>> so I can speak my mind since the employees who
think complimenting CSX on this site will earn them brownie points or
extra money in the future are too stupid to realize it wont.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 December 2011

Hey RRJ:

Riding at night with no helmet or lights on private property with a
suspended license while being 3 times over the limit. What could
possibly go wrong there?

Frankly I'm surprised she could sit up and wasn't passed out.

I don't know about the territory you ran but this is a big hunting
area and these guys don't think twice about riding the rails. I've
seen a few get strung out on trestles and barely make it off. The look
on their faces is priceless...don't know if it was from a near death
experience or that warm mushy sensations in their pants!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 17 December 2011

NoMo

He's as blind as riding an ATV without lighting equipment. It's his
article that states she didn't see the barrier because the ATV didn't
have lighting equipment. Even in areas without these barriers  signs are
posted CSX private property no trespessing. You're right if it didn't
have barriers he would blame CSX for something. lol

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 December 2011

Hey Robert:

Give it up...you lose on this one...CSX placed the barrier on their
property to keep trespassers off the tracks. These people get on the
tracks and ride for miles.

If there wasn't a barrier and the woman was killed, you would be
whining because CSX didn't have the path protected.

You can't have it both ways so which is it? Posting stories like this
one only hurts what little credibility you have. Or are you saying
it's okay to operate a vehicle while you're 3 times over the limit?

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 December 2011

NOM """Three times the legal limit and not wearing a helmet. The
article didn't say how fast she was going but you can rest assured it
was too fast for the conditions."""

The condition being some CSX morons without a clue on traffic control
put a horizontal guillotine with a drunk paint job across a used trail
without permission? There is no legal limit on private roads and
drivers licenses aren't needed so the cop needs fired for jury
tampering.

CITRA, Fla., -- An ATV driver is dead after an accident in Marion
County.

Brandy Bowen, 34, was killed when she ran into a metal beam on NE 25th
Avenue. Police say Bowen didn't see the bar because the ATV was not
equipped with lighting equipment. 

The ATV flipped, throwing Bowen and a passenger, George Krisher, 31, to
the ground. Bowen died at the scene. Krisher was taken to UF & Shands
Gainesville with serious injuries.

Name: evans
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 16 December 2011

I just voted NO.

Name: Un-Lucky Louie
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 16 December 2011

How is it that you can send in resumes for 100s of CSX jobs and never
get an interview?

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 16 December 2011

Hey Robert:

I hate to say it but this woman did it to herself. Three times the
legal limit and not wearing a helmet. The article didn't say how fast
she was going but you can rest assured it was too fast for the
conditions.

Try again!

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@fidnet.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 16 December 2011

http://www.ocala.com/article/20111214/ARTICLES/111219868

Horizontal guillotines CSXs new invention to kill more people.

Slackie ---the kid was working ---played college football you low life.

Name: slack action
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 20-30 years
Posted: 15 December 2011

The NTSB also failed to mention he had 5 previous dui's and had been
smoking dope all day long at the local beer joint and was driving way
too fast for the conditions ( over 100 mph )   He did not have a
operating thump meter in his truck and was a practicing terrorist from
Sullivan, MO.  He really had some sucky brakes because he did not even
put in truck in emergency before the wreck...His did not know how to
use his steering wheel to swerve out of the way..People like this steal
road side prevention tax funds from the public every day...

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 December 2011

Hey HTL:

Glad to hear from you and that retirement agrees with you. Come back
when you can stay awhile.

I hope you're not talking about "bedroom" golf...got to have the
owners permission before you play the back nine!!!

Name: htlong
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 December 2011

hey Nomo,

I see you & RRJ are still kicking!
and I see Pines is back......too bad 

well I am heading out the door to play the back 9
 boy do I love palm trees!

retirement has been berry goud to mee!

                ht long

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@fidnet.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 December 2011

The GMC Sierra pickup was traveling 55 mph when it slammed into a Volvo
truck tractor that had slowed to a stop while approaching an I-44
construction zone.

Read more:
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/driver-was-texting-in-deadly-interstate-crash-near-gray-summit/article_45bdf5f5-0576-5633-adea-dd76ece9ffad.html#ixzz1gb4drRBe

Soooo how you run a remote train with no electronics?

The bus drivers weren't texting. Hmmmmm So the construction zone for
an average 75 mph traffic wasn't set up right for a stopped truck when
the mininum speed limit is 40 mph on that stretch--- a fact the NTSB
left out along with no seat belts on buses and crash worthiness of
vehicles.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 14 December 2011

A federal safety official says a 19-year-old pickup truck driver
involved in a deadly highway pileup in Missouri last year sent or
received 11 texts in the 11 minutes immediately before the accident.

National Transportation Safety Board Chairman Deborah Hersman said this
week it's clear the pickup driver was manually, cognitively and
visually distracted.

In connection with the findings, the NTSB recommended on Tuesday that
states ban all driver use of cell phones and other hand held
electronics, except in times of emergency. The ban should apply to both
hand held and hands-free electronics, the Board said.

Investigators said the young driver sent six texts and received five
texts just before his pickup crashed into the back of a tractor truck,
beginning a chain collision. The pickup was rear-ended by a school bus,
which in turn was rammed by a second school bus.

The pickup driver and a 15-year-old student on one of the school buses
were killed. Thirty-eight other people were injured in the Aug. 5,
2010, accident near Gray Summit, Mo.
Texting while driving has been identified as a scourge on U.S. roads by
the Department of Transportation and several states, which have enacted
anti-texting laws.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@fidnet.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 December 2011

Dear Mr. Pines:
Thank you for your e-mail message of November 29, to the Federal
Railroad Administration.  Would you please clarify your concern, so I
can assign appropriate staff to respond?  What information are you
requesting?
Sincerely,
Michael Lestingi
Acting Director, Office of Safety Assurance and Compliance
 

 
From: btpino40@gmail.com [mailto:btpino40@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 1:31 AM
To: Web Inquiries (FRA)
Subject: Violation Reporting at 11/29/2011 1:30:31 AM
 
From: btpino40@gmail.com     Sent: 11/29/2011 1:30:32 AM 
 Violation Reporting

Date and Time: 11/29/2011 1:30:31 AM

Name    robert pines    
Email   btpino40@gmail.com      
Phone Number    5732478113      
Preferred Contact Method        Email   
Railroad or Company that Committed the Alleged Violation        Norfolk
Southern        
Type of Alleged Violation       Grade Crossing  
Date of Alleged Violation       02/07/2010      
Time of Alleged Violation       10:50 AM        
Alleged Violation Location      Theft of Federal/state property ---
false report        
Please provide a description of the Alleged Violation   My complaint?
Recording devices stolen that tax payers where charged for byrailroad.
Whistle posts at 17 seconds and not required 20 seconds for 50 mph
trains. No train brakes with 17 seconds warning according to crews own
statement. There is no thump meter on the train so train speed
couldn't be determined especially with brakes applied (speed would be
0 while sliding wheels would be 49 mph) It would be physically
impossible for a vehicle going around a gate on a 18 foot wide road to
cause damage to the opposite gate since the vehicle would be even with
the gate to start with. www.fra.dot.gov/rrs/ViolationReport.aspx#
http://www.fra.dot.gov/downloads/safety/Accident_Investigation/2010/hq201007.PDF
""There are no recording devices in the grade crossing control
house.""     
btpino40@gmail.com
Nov 30

to michael.lestin. 
http://www.fra.dot.gov/downloads/safety/Accident_Investigation/2010/hq201007.PDF
You don't know how to read your own reports? 

On Nov 30, 2011 4:40pm, michael.lestingi@dot.gov wrote: 
> Dear Mr. Pines:Thank you for your e-mail message of November 29, to
the Federal Railroad Administration.  Would you please clarify your
concern, so I can assign appropriate staff to respond?  What
information are you requesting?Sincerely,Michael LestingiActing
Director, Office of Safety Assurance and Compliance

Name: GOB Jax
E-mail: 
Employed as: Yard Master, for 20-30 years
Posted: 13 December 2011

The Touchstone story seemed to quiet down. Maybe she is behaving.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 13 December 2011

Clean

These railroad girls all have a black book with ratings and sizes to
rat out anyone they might need too to keep them in good situations.

Sounds like Touch has some good stuff in her book.

Name: mr  clean
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 13 December 2011

Loco 30,


Nothing, thats whats happening. What do you expect. Unless someone took
pictures, which would get them fired for conduct unbecoming, not a thing
is going to happen. Second they will probably ask you why you are
bitching at getting a peice of tail. Shouldnt have tapped it if you
didnt want it. If she really is getting around like everyone claims
theres a damb good chance shes been with a few higher ups who prefer
she keep her mouth shut!  Piss her off and bet she squeels like a pig
on the way to the butcher!  HHMMMM wonder if she has a black book!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 13 December 2011

Whats happening with Touchstone?

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@fidnet.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 13 December 2011

So why do you lie and say you have been on several strikes RRJ when you
have never been on one?

A real railroaders Harley

http://www.ecrater.com/p/11802584/1989-mattel-inc-arco-barbie-size-3

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 12 December 2011

Hey Goober:

It's taken me 33 years to learn to look interested while my wife's
talking...it gets easier though with every cup:)

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 12 December 2011

Listening skill is a learned skill.

If ya keep on killing the few old timers on this place, you will see a
blank screen. They are not always up to date, but just send the message
as they lived it.

I see nothing wrong with a wrong post, just was one way and now
something different. we can all learn from that.

let everyone rant as much and cuss as much as they want. The truth is
in the details.

GOOB

Name: cya
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 12 December 2011

RRJ,

What are you putting in that morning coffee?  We all read a lot of dumb
shit from you.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 12 December 2011

It's not an educational site anymore. I stated it once was one. Get the
facts straight. It's now a cry baby site. It's a site for drunks to
rant on with obsenities and other dribble. I'll keep posting till I
get bored. Seeing that I'm only online in the morning not glued to the
internet like most people these days getting bored might take along
time. lol

Name: Evans
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 12 December 2011

Educational site

rrj must have fell off his rocker again.  I've red some silly post on
here from him, but that one takes the cake.  

Old man it's time to put the pc down and feed the squirrels..

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 12 December 2011

Kyle

You took my comment in the wrong way which happens in a written format.
I not under social security it's railroad retirement. That doesn't
mean I'm against it. I'm against anyone in government who wants to
dismantle, change ect...social security. Ronald Raygun raided it in the
'80s the government hasn't paid back the loan. The conversation of
overhauling social security you should have with the younger
generations that are being snookered into believing by the right wing
conspiracy that baby boomers are going to drain it dry. The same goes
for medicare. Both issues are under attack by republicans led by
Boehner & Cantor plus in the republican debates it's a hot topic. As
for my statement on unemployment I do believe 2 years collecting is way
to long. I'm a firm believer in taking responsibility. Recessions
aren't new. I lived through the recession in 1973 which ran till the
early '80s. It happens every 10 years or so. I mearly stated facts
that those who decided to collect for 2 years are now being considered
unemployable by some employers.

Name: KYLE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 12 December 2011

You must have a 1 track mind RRJ as yer comment as you don,t care about
ssi or unemployment to those out of work, yer comment-i don,t care
about ssi is the most assnine thing i ever heard from a working person,
What would you say if those rotten no good neo-cons took yer pension
check away or cut by 30%??? Yes you would bitch high heaven and you
know it and they are after it too cuz you see your rr retirment check
is a goverment check too! Man you better wise up in yer old age and
stop watching FOX IS NOT NEWS & jerk offs like beck & rush limpballs,
At least now we all know which polotical party you favor, And don,t
forget it wuz yer hero ronnie raygun who put a tax on rr unemployment &
rr sick benefits back in the 1980,s, don,t believe me? do some research
on that one, I know how neo-cons think,all for me,me,me,and to hell
with everyone else.

Name: BOYLES
E-mail: ANYONE
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 11 December 2011

CSX IS NO BETTER THAN THE EMPLOYES MAKE IT...

CSX IS NO BETTER THAN THE COMPANY MAKES IT,!!!!SO,,,BOTH MUST TRY TO
WORK TOGETHER...

REMEMBER,,,,,THE UNION IS PAID OFF BY THE COMPANY,,,,,,SOME STATES HAVE
THE RIGHT TO WORK LAW.......BUT,,STILL HAVE TO BELONG TO THE UNIONS THAT
ARE NOW RUN OUT OF THE WHITEHOUSE.!!!!
   PEOPLE .....YOU NEED TO WAKE UP.....BEFORE WE ARE LIKE EUROPE...
GOVERMENT CONTROL OF MAKING JOBS NEVER WORKED AND NEVER WILL...
   COMPANIES,,,,INCLUDES MEN AND WOMEN,,,,MAKE JOBS...
ALL THE GOVERMENT CREATES IS CONFUSION.....
  I DO NOT HAVE THE ANSWER.......BUT,,,I DO KNOW ENOUGH,,,THE WORKING
CLASS OF CSX,,,,HAS NO CONTROL OF THE UNIONS....THERE BELOVED
UNION,,,IS 99.9% PAID OFF BY THE FEDERAL GOVERMENT AGAINST YOU.!!!

Name: mmmmmmm
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 30+ years
Posted: 11 December 2011

Educational page called csx-sucks.  You have to be joking.

Name: Sonny
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 11 December 2011

rrj

YOu must live on this site or do you work for csx-sucks?  Everytime I
read something on here you have some silly remark.  You must patrol
this site.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 11 December 2011

You only need to post on one thread it's ignorant to post on all. No
this isn't a CSX bashing site. That's just your interpetation. It's
intent is to discuss the issues related to CSX. Not a bunch of
obsenities, racial slur's ect...it's become a joke that CSX monitors
and most likely laughs at by seeing how uneducated some of their
employees really are these days. lol. I have to agree with them on that
issue. lol

Name: Willy
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 11 December 2011

RRJ


CSX-Sucks  is the name of this site in case you didn't know.  It's
not like when you worked out here referring to certain ones like
yourself " safety sucks, csx sucks, company sucks."  this is a
negative site bashing csx. I hope this helps.  Now go feed your
pengions old man..

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 11 December 2011

Pines

I haven't a clue my guess would be 1996 or 1997. It was a safety
strike just on CSX not nationwide. It began at 2300 lasted about 30
minutes. The BLE did manage to shut the railroad down on 3rd trick that
night. 

Hey cable guy, it must of been shortline railroaders homes you went to,
to do an installation. lol. Whoever said railroaders would get rich?
It's decent money some what above average. It's also up to the
individual. Yearly income flucuates depends on traffic. I never got a
paycheck that was ever the same amount. Some were higher some lower. It
all balanced itself out at the end of the year. Working on the railroad
in T&E incomes run the gamut from $50,000 to $150,000. The lower end
most likely a yard job the higher end someone who never marks off
working a higher milage mainline ID run.

Name: truth
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 20-30 years
Posted: 10 December 2011

Boyles,

You talked about guys taking rules classed and failing but still
walking out the door with a passing grade....Well thats the way it
should be..Thats the way it is for company officials...EVERY SINGLE
rules book, pod test, timetable, etc... has errors in them. Every year
you take your pod exams you WILL find an error in them. Every single
timetable has errors in them. They cant possibly expect us to be held
to a higher standard when they dont proofread a damb thing they
publish. FRA laws states very clearly that in order to be able to go
out in the field and test employees on safety rules and operating
procedures the supervisor have to have full knowledge of such rules
that they are testing their employees on. Cant count on fingers and
toes how many times a supervisor had to be corrected for trying to fail
someone on a rule he didnt know shit about!  Have to tell them to go
look it up!  So as long as the company is not being held accountable
for their stupid blunders then why should we!

As for the unions, you are right...NO BACKBONE...They should be sueing
the company for failure to negotiate with the union in good faith. When
they signed the aggreement they did just that...agreed to honor and pay
all claims set forth in writing.... But they dont. Once they deny a
claim several times after it was agreed upon in writing thats when the
union needs to step in and hit them hard. This shows that they had no
intention of paying the claim in the first place. They knew that when
they signed the papers. And this bullshit of settling with pennies on
the dollar instead of making them pay the full amount that was agreed
upon is bullshit. They violate an agreement that clearly states you
will be paid an 8 hr pentaly claim at yard rate, then thats what they
should pay. NOT .50 on the dollar! As long as the unions bow down and
take it backwards our unions dues are just good hard earned money
pissed in the wind!

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@fidnet.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 10 December 2011

Name: RRJ Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years

So did you take a bullet in the gut for safety? ORDERED would be
slavery. What years were these these strikes so I can look up the
Presidential mandates.

By the way---I have worked cable at a lot of railroaders mediocre
houses and po-dunk apartments. Sooo the pay isn't all the wine and
roses you're your trying to portray. Why at exactly this time one
would ask.

Name: Boyles
E-mail:  NOMO
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 10 December 2011

NO PROBLEM HERE,
  I LIKE YOU,,,READ THEM ALL,

HAVE A GREAT DAY,,,,,,   ,BOYES.....RETIRED.!!!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 10 December 2011

Hey Boyles:

Do us all a favor and please only post in one topic...we read them
all!

Thank you.

Name: Boyles
E-mail: RRJ
Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years
Posted: 10 December 2011

RRJ,
 THANKS FOR A GOOD POST......WIFE AND I BOTH DO ENJOY THAT RAILROAD
RETIREMENT CHECK ALSO...,,,,,,I DO HOPE AFTER 2 YEARS OF NO
INCREASE,,,WE DO GET A RAISE THIS YEAR...
 I HEARD WE WOULD,,,,BUT,,THAT STILL WILL NOT CHANGE MY VOTE.!!!

I SEE ALOT OF CHANGE HAS TAKEN PLACE IN THE COMPANY SINCE MY
REITREMENT
......ALOT OF GOOD FRIENDS AND CO WORKERS HAVE PASSED AWAY,,,AND,,,ALOT
OF THEM,,,STILL YOUNG...
   I REALIZED,,,JOBS THAT WERE ON CALL 24---7,,,AND THE MONEY WAS NOT
INMPRTANT ANYMORE..   LIFE,,,DOING THINGS WITH FAMILY,,,FRIENDS,,MEANT
MORE TO ME THAT THE MONEY,,,AND,,AFTER R.R. TAX,,,,YOU MAY GET
HALF,,,,,,,...
....YES,,,RAILROAD PAYS GOOD AND OT HELPED,,,BUT,,RAILROADS DO CUT ALOT
OF TAX......I HIRED IN,,,I MADE $3.50 A HOUR AND I THOUGHT I WAS ON TOP
OF THE WORLD..
  RAILROAD WAS GOOD TO ME AS FAR AS MONEY,,,,,AND,,,I WAS GOOD TO THE
RAILROAD AS WORKING......BUT,,IT GOT TO A POINT,,,,CHANGE WAS COMEING
AND I SEEN IT.......
   I TOOK EARLY RETIREMENT AND HAVEING A BLAST ,,,WIFE AND I AND OUR
CAMPER.!!!
   I HAVE ALOT OF STORIES I COULD TELL,,BUT,,,I DO NOT WANT TO NAME
NAMES AS IT WOULD NOT BE RIGHT....
 SOME GOOD AND SOME BAD STORIES ABOUT THE RAILROAD......
 ......I DID SEE THIS COMING,,,,SO,,I PAID EVERYTHING OFF AHEAD OF
TIME,,,,,,,I RE ADJUSTED MY SELF TO MY MONTHLY RETIREMENT INCOME,,,
  HAVE A BLESSED DAY,,,,,,,BOYLES..

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 10 December 2011

Boyles

Claims till around 3 years ago were left up to local management to
approve or decline. Today it goes through payroll and labor relations.
Sounds like you had a bad trainmaster. Till around 6-7 years ago I was
getting just about every legit claim paid on time. The BLE didn't help
by going to the SSA in 2007 they pretty much gave up most claims
especially runarounds. After 2007 CSX could do anything turn a crew
back on short rest while a rested crew was in the lodging ect....no
claim. That started happening a lot. We like any industry union &
non-union had/have our fair share of lazy people. Nothing is going to
change it's just some people nature. It's a lame excuse by the right
wing media against unions. Whose to blame? We were by letting these
people get away with being lazy not the unions. I had plenty of
arguements with those I deemed lazy. I wasn't alone others did the
same. No, I wouldn't turn them in but I could make life miserable if
they worked with me. I'm a firm believer in a honest days work for a
honest days pay.  

A friend of mine who has worked union & non-union over the past 28
years asked me why I preferred unions. It was for the fact they can't
fire me on a whim. He lost his non-union job of 17 years in 2010
because someone in management nephew needed a job. I applauded him
because he didn't sit around collecting unemployment never drew a
dime. He survived by working some home improvement constuction jobs
with friends as a laborer and aggressively looked for work. It took him
4 months to find another job not making what he was starting at $15 an
hour. Jobs are out there the government has made it to easy for people
to collect unemployment for up to 2 years. I've never heard of any
such a thing it's made a lot of Americans lazy. It's coming back to
haunt them employers want to know why they've been out of the job
market so long. They're almost unemployable now the government wants
to step in to protect these deadbeats. I'd been through recessions
during the '70s. I moved a few times from east to west coast and back
to look for work. The last move in 1977 I got hired on the C&O. 

I don't know where you get the rich pay 75% of the taxes. They have
accountants who specialize in tax loopholes ect....besides if they did
pay the max it's 36% lowest it's ever been. The middle class pays on
average 20% add in retail taxes, gasoline, alcohol ect...we pay our
fair share. You're right to many deadbeats these days crying poverty.
It the past it always balanced itself out. Cut off these extended
unemployment benefits force people to get back to work. Social Security
taxes need to go back to where they were get rid of the SS payroll tax
reductions that happened 2 years ago. The government is wising up on
that one. It doesn't matter to me about SS. I draw a Railroad
Retirement check every first of the month.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 December 2011

Name: RRJ Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years

So did you take a bullet in the gut for safety? ORDERED would be
slavery. What years were these these strikes so I can look up the
Presidential mandates.

Name: Boyles
E-mail: UNION
Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years
Posted: 09 December 2011

THE GUYS I WORKED BESIDE WERE SCARED TO WRITE UP CLAIMS,,,,,SO,,,I WROTE
THEM FOR US.......OF COURSE,,MOST WERE DENIED.!!!!   A 100% GOOD
CLAIM,,,MOST,,,WE NEVER GOT,!!!!  NOW AND THEN,,,A CLAIM WOULD BE
PAID,!!!!,,,,,,
 THE COMPANY SIGNED THE SAME AGGREMENT AS THE UNION,,,,,,SO,,IF A CLAIM
IS LEGAL,,,,PAY ME,!!!!!  BUT,,THAT IS NOT HOW CSX WORKED..
 I HAD A COMPANY MAN,,TELL ME TO MY FACE,,,,,,,YOUR UNION IS NOT WORTH
A DAMM,!!!!!   CLAIM ALL YOU WANT,,,,I WILL PAY NOTHING,!!!.
  IT IS SAD,,,,HOW THIS R.R. HAS BECOME SO EVIL.......I HAVE BEEN OFF
OVER 10 YEARS.......AND,,IT WAS BAD THEN,,,BUT,,FROM THESE POST I
READ,,,,,,IT IS ALOT WORSE NOW,,!!!!!
  ....FRA RULES,,,,,,SAFTY RULES,,,,,,A JOKE.......MANY RULE
CLASSES...THERE WERE SOME THAT ALWAYS FAILED.....BUT,,,THESE MEN LEFT
THAT RULE CLASS WITH A PASSING GRADE......NO ONE FAILED.!!!
 IS THIS SAFTY.???......I SEEN FRA TEST GRADES,,,CHANGED,,,,,,
BUT,,,NOW,,,I TRY TO FOCUS ON THE ROAD AHEAD.....I HAD MY TIME ON THE
RAILROAD,,,IT IS YOUR TIME NOW,,,,
   GOOD LUCK,!!!!!!!!

Name: Boyles
E-mail:  UNIONS
Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years
Posted: 09 December 2011

I DO AGREE ,,MOST OF THE TIME ,,,I PERFERE UNION JOBS...
  BUT,,IN ALABAMA.TENNESSE AND MISSISSIPPI THEY NOW HAVE 4 MAJOR CAR
PLANTS,,,,,NO UNION......!!!!!!!
THESE PLANTS,,PAY AS MUCH OR MORE THAN UNION PLANTS,,,HAVE VERY GOOD
BENIFITS...AND,,,AS LONG AS YOU DO YOUR JOB,,,,NO PROBLEM,,,
  I HAVE WORKED UNION JOBS,,MOST OF MY ADULT LIFE,,,,,LAST 30
,,,RAILROAD....
  I HAVE SEEN SORRY,,NO ACCOUNT..LAZY WORKERS,,,GET SAME PAY AS THE
GOOD WORKERS....AND LAUGH AT THE EMPLOYE THAT TRIES HARD...
   SINCE ALL WORKERS,,,GOOD AND BAD,,ARE ALL PROTECTED UNDER THE
UNION...
 IF THINGS ARE NOT CHANGED,,,IN THE NEXT 4 YEARS,,,,,PEOPLE THAT ARE
65,,,WILL NOT GET A RETIREMENT.....MONEY FOR RETIREMENT COMES FROM
TAXES COLLECT OUT OF WORKERS CHECKS.....IF MORE PEOPLE GET ON FOOD
STAMPS,,,WELFARE AND ECT,,,,,THERE IS NO MONEY COLLECTED FROM THESE
PEOPLE...TO GO INTO RETIREMENT FUNDS.!!!!!!
 WHO IS GOING TO PAY.!!!!   THE RICH,,,PAY ABOUT 75% OF ALL THE
TAXES......THE MIDDLE CLASS 25%,,,,,,,,....,THE POOR OR
WELFARE,,GOVERMENT CHECK PEOPLE,,,PAY NOTHING...
 AT SOME POINT OF TIME,,,MONEY WILL BE GONE...
    THERE MUST BE A STOPPING POINT FROM GOVERMENT TO UNIONS,,,,
AMERICA IS AT THE LAST ROAD TO BECOMNG A 3RD WORLD COUNTRY...
 THE 3 RD WORLD COUNTRIES ARE NOW,,,PASSING AMERICA.!!!!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 09 December 2011

I'll agree Obama's bullschidt with the EPA if successful will
jeaprodise thousands of jobs in the coal fields & possibly the railroad
industry. Wind & solar can't generate enough electricity for anything
except small locations. Power plants change all the time between coal &
natural gas which ever is cheaper. Nothing new there it's easy to
transfer the plants to one source then back again. It's not entirely
Obama's fault America could become a third world nation. The
republicans are doing their part to make it happen with coddling
corrupt corporations & destroying public unions which has drawn bad
sentiment towards private industry unions. Rail unions since the
1920's have been under federal control with the Railway Labor Act
which includes the airline industry. The rail unions had their chance
to win back lost gains in the '90s under Clinton but chose to become
complacent. I blame them for it. Still I'd much rather belong to a
mediocre union then no union at all.

Name: Boyles
E-mail:  STRIKE
Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years
Posted: 09 December 2011

BY THE TIME ONE GETS THE SIGN,,,,,PLACES STRIKING EMPLOYES IN PROPER
PLACES,,,,,THE STRIKE IS OVER,,,,GOVERMENT CONTROLLED RAILROAD TELLS
YOU GO BACK TO WORK,,OR,,YOUR FIRED,,!!!

BOY,,,WHAT A UNION WE HAVE.....TODAYS UNIONS ARE BOUGHT OFF BY THE
GOVERMENT,,,IF YOU DO NOT BELEIVE,,,JUST LOOK AT WASHINGTON,,,,
 THE GOVERMENT CONTROLS THE UNIONS AND IT MEMBERS,,,,,BUT,,,YOU HAVE TO
PAY HIGH DUES,,WHICH ARE THEN,,,DONATED TO THE DEMOCRATE PARTY...
  PEOPLE,,THE DEMOCRATES THAT YOU THINK LOVES YOU TODAY,,,IS NOT THE
DEMOCRATE OF YOUR DADS ERA........
 ,,AND,,,AMERICA IN 4 MORE YEARS,,MAY NOT BE THE AMERICA YOU ONCE
KNEW,!!!!
OBAMA AND DEMOCRATES ARE TRYING HARD TO STOP ALL COAL MINES FROM
EXPANDING,,,,,,,WHICH ,,,REMEMBER,,,WE HAVE UNIT TRAINS TO SHIP
COAL....  GREEN JOBS,,,DO AWAY WITH COAL.!!!!!!
....1000,S OF OIL PIPE LINE JOBS ARE AT STAKE,,BUT,,,OMAMA VETOED THE
BILL OF THE PIPELINE FROM CANADA TO U.S......WHICH WOULD CREATE HUGE
AMOUNT OF UNION JOBS.!!!!   AND,,ALSO...LOWER THE PRICE OF GAS
HERE.!!!
 MY CAR WILL NOT RUN ON WIND,,,!!!!  WASHINGTRON DEMOCRATES WANT WIND
POWER.!~~~   GREEN,,,,WELL....WHAT ABOUT THE ELECTRIC CAR...
  HUGE FLOP....OWNED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERMENT.!!!!
DEMOCRATE OR REPUBLICAN,,,DOES NOT MATTER................
   JUST LOOK WHAT HAS HAPPEN THE LAST 3 YEARS,,!!!!!  AMERICA IS GOING
FAST TO BE A 3RD WORLD COUNTRY,,,AND,,,,THIS IS WHAT OBAMA
WANTS..........
 UNIONS,,,,OBAMA LOVES THERE MONEY,,,BUT,,,,,CARERS LESS ABOUT YOU,!!!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 09 December 2011

Pines

I know all about it. I've been on quite a few safety strikes. In most
cases by the time we shut the railroad down placing pickets ect...they
already had a court injunction against us. I was referring to the
process of contract negotiations nothing more. The rail unions haven't
used safety strikes since the mid-'90s. The last one was when I rode up
to the picket line on my 1980 Harley Davidson "shovelhead" Tourglide.
That's how I know the timeframe. After each safety strike the
railroads then try an sue the unions for their earning losses which
ends up in court for years till settled ot tossed out.

Name: Boyles
E-mail: ROBERT
Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years
Posted: 09 December 2011

ROBERT,
 YOU ARE CORRECT...OVER MY 30 YEARS,,,I DO REMEMBER SEVERAL
STRIKES,,,BUT,,,THE FEDERAL GOVERMENT WOULD MAKE YOU GO BACK WITHIN A
COUPLE OF DAYS...  SO,,,NOTHING WAS EVER ACCOMPLISHED.!!!
 AS I READ ALL THESE POST,,,I SEE THE RAILROAD OF YESTERDAY IS GONE AND
A NEW BREED OF PEOPLE ARE IN...
  CHANGE ,,,MOST OF THE TIME IS GOOD,,,BUT,,,I SEE CSX HAS ,,,WHAT MOST
PEOPLE POST,,,CHANGED FOR THE WORSE.!!!!
....I JUST HOPE THIS COUNTRY MAKES IT ANOTHER YEAR....
IN LESS THAN 4 YEARS,,,THIS COUNTRY HAS FALLEN FROM A WORLD LEADER...
   AMERICA MADE IT ON HARD WORK,,,,,,,NOT A FREE GIVE AWAY PROGRAM..
AMERICA DOES NOT OWE YOU ANYTHING,,,YOU OWE AMERICA ,,,,,
  I AM TALKING ABOUT WASHINGTON AND WHAT IS GOING ON BEHIND CLOSED
DOORS.!!!

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 December 2011

Actually the railroaders can strike for safety matters legally RRJ. You
have 30 years and nothing you have done. 

http://www.fra.dot.gov/downloads/safety/UnmetMandates0611.pdf

The report identifies 18 unmet statutory mandates as of December 30,
2010, and specifies actions to implement or address each of them. The
report also identifies 44 open recommendations by the National
Transportation Safety Board and 2 open recommendations by the U.S.
Department of Transportation's Office of Inspector General.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 05 December 2011

Grow up. If you haven't learned by now seeing it's states you have
10-20 years you'll never learn. The government has so much control
under the Railway Labor Act plus add in Obama's resorting to the PEB
striking is not an realistic option. Let's say Pierce took the BLE to
a strike. Then the U.S. Congress forces which is their right the less
desireable contract down your throat without the recommendations of the
PEB & the gains the BLE has achieved over the past 60 day cooling off
period. The first thing you would state the BLE screwed us should of
taken the PEB offer. Pierce and the BLE negotiating committee did there
job no real news yet on the total tenative contract but it stated they
managed to get over 20+% wage increase over 6 years instead of the 18
1/2% the PEB recommended. So don't cry crocadile tears on here that
the BLE sucks. Leave that to the UTU members when they see the
difference in contracts they'll have a real reason to be pissed.

Name: Y
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 05 December 2011

Pierce formally notifies General Chairmen of tentative agreement 
CLEVELAND, December 5 — Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers and
Trainmen (BLET) National President Dennis R. Pierce has formally
notified General Chairmen representing employees impacted by national
health and welfare bargaining of the Tentative Agreement reached
between the BLET and the National Carriers’ Conference Committee (NCCC)
late last week.


Not able to strike=no union 
ble wasted our money and time with this bullshit when there was no way
we were ever going to be able to strike

republican democrats they're all full of shit they don't care about
the unions just reelection  no one stood with us  why should we stand
with them

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 05 December 2011

I understand CSX now runs the NS playbook.   And we have the nastiest 
Nazi of them all Brownshit.

Name: Pointspread Pauper
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 04 December 2011

Oh...by the way

...this refers to Norfolk Southern Internal Audit #2009-178.

Squad 3 of the Cleveland, Ohio FBI and the Norfolk FBI Field Office
will now first be involved with a chap named Mark XXXXX from Virginia
Beach, Virginia who had at least one guest from his house on
Thanksgiving 2009 who had the 2009-178 file with them.

Norfolk Southern is going to let this guy hang himself before the FBI
because Norfolk Southern can never admit what they did to me...

..their strategy won't work and before the e-mail presence of the
Chief of Squad 3 of the FBI and the US Attorney for the Judicial
District of Northern Ohio....

...Norfolk Southern is going to LITERALLY BEG the US Attorney to allow
the fashioning of a sixteenth-century "star chamber" where Norfolk
Southern officials & agents plead guilty to all counts and ask for
maximum sentences to run consecutively on all counts...

...just in order to spare themselves the embarrassment before their
stockholders(NYC Comptroller Pension Funds) and SEC Enforcement who
will be freezing their assets & halting all trading of their stock.

It became obvious reading the sanctions decision of Judge Ellen Maas
that this drag-your-feet obfuscation by BNSF Railway was a 
strategy aimed at the presumption that law firms WOULD NOT shell out
their own dough.

This law firm did and because of it BNSF attorneys are squirming before
the Minnesota Supreme Court

Also, BNSF altered their response by removing a line from VP Aimbler's
pathetic explanation... it said something like, "BNSF employees have
gone through further training on the proper disposition of evidence"

...oh, this was accidentallll???!!!???

The reason they removed that line was because the new set of attorneys
for BNSF had to go before the Minnesota Supreme Court and admit to
'bad conduct'; to wit, a euphamism for "total contempt of the
judicial system, the court and the court's officers"

Well, NoMo.... you pay real close attention to what Judge Maas spoke
about her authority... powers granted specifically to her by
enumeration... but most importantly "inherent" powers to cover
exigencies not clearly defined by statute, ordinance or within the body
of "case law"

Couple that with a DoD administrative law decision defining
administrative proof as "something less than a preponderance of the
evidence but more than a glimmer or glimpse"

http://www.dod.mil/dodgc/doha/industrial/02-16379.h1.html

Sheriffs, Police Chiefs, Mayors(Executive Branch), Fire Chiefs, County
HAZMAT officials too have inherent powers as well as "enumerated
powers"

These inherent powers will successfully clash with this cite by Norfolk
Southern Chief Counsel, John Edwards in the Ethanol Transloading
Terminal Case before the NTSB:

"The purpose of the Federal preemption is to prevent a patchwork of
local and state regulation from unreasonably interfering with
interstate commerce "

...remember in the John Grisham movie, The Firm, where Mitchell McDeer
(Tom Cruise) submarines the entire Memphis Law Office with an oblique
yet devastating attack..

..he tells the FBI Agent played by Ed Harris that the hundreds of uses
of a postage stamp to commit overbilling mail fraud was not glamorous
but it had teeth(5 years in prison and a $250,000 fine per incident)

The reason Tom Cruise was able to figure that out and not the FBI was
because he was successfully able to collate what he had learned in law
school with the misconduct he observed as an insider.


You will all be getting to have a sideline pass to watch how "inherent
powers" beat the "federal preemption" in US District Court.

The "postage stamp" in this case is that the US District Court will
FIRST PERFORM a "test" to see if the Alexandria, Va officials will
have had sufficient "administrative proof" to have acted
unilaterally...

...if that is settled in their favor then it is dispositive. Norfolk
Southern never gets a chance to present the Federal Preemption argument
nor the Interstate Commerce Act of 1870 nor anything else.

This will be the biggest upset of a prohibitive favorite(Norfolk
Southern) in the United States since UTEP beat #6-ranked BYU straight
up as 42-point underdogs in NCAA Football... somewhere around 1989.

I of course was at Bally's Grand in Reno and bet BYU -42 (another
loser in a lifetime of losing bets)...

...the ironic thing is I RESEARCH ALL MY PICKS IN FOOTBALL, BASKETBALL
& BASEBALL for hours-and hours to pick losers this bad... I'd be
better of going 50-50 by having my Magic 8-ball pick games for me....

BYU -42, Mr Magic 8-ball???

"All signs point to yes"

Okay...my Magic 8-ball is not so magic since it picks losers also but
at least I can research 10 or 15 games in 5 minutes as opposed to 7 or
8 hours.

I also got to quit betting so many games... the  11/10 house edge of
52.38% grinds you down much, much faster when you bet alot of games.

Hey, if any of you want to freak out Norfolk Southern by dropping one
shoe and letting the other shoe dangle from your arm... you can e-mail
the link to these posts to...



Norfolk Southern VP of Law

william.galanko@nscorp.com


Norfolk Southern Senior Counsel

John.Edwards@nscorp.com


...due to the criminal & regulatory misconduct of  Norfolk Southern's
Agents, the hegemony has flipped 180 degrees in favor of the
communities in the 22 states.

The first casualty will be an attorney for a Norfolk Southern Drug
Testing Agent who will surrender his law license (as opposed to being
disbarred)and then surrender to the FBI for "felony intimidation" of
the family members of someone reporting regulatory violations to the
FRA and criminal conduct to the Norfolk Southern Police

Name: Pointspread Pauper
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 04 December 2011

Hello, NoMo

How are you doing?

The appellation, "whoop ass express" crystalizes perfectly what is
about to happen.

Some folks were hoping they'd be able to trash US DOT documentation
pretty soon...

...but just like Lucy used to yank the football away from Charlie Brown
prior to him kicking it...

...they're going to realize they never had a chance. I was never going
to let that happen from the beginning of their threats against my
physical safety

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 04 December 2011

Was that the "Whoop Ass" express?

Name: Pointspread Pauper
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 04 December 2011

Of course, David...

..if you, George Knapp or Anjelica Palank have ever been  place kickers
in the National Football League, I take all of those platitudes back and
deny them forever...

...missing field goals wide right... shanking point-after-attempts.

I couldn't pick a winner against the pointspread if my life depended
on it... and not just in the NFL

I dislike placekickers in NCAA Football just as much for the very same
reasons.

Statistically, it is just as difficult to pick 11 losers in a row
against the pointspread as it is to pick 11 winners in a row against
the pointspread.

Guess what I picked?... 11 losers in a row...

...followed by a push/tie...

...followed by two losers

0 wins 13 Losses 1 push/tie

Name: Pointspread Pauper
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 04 December 2011

You're a good man, David Nelson, you and your family paid quite a high
price for you sticking up to the ethical principles some good parents
must have instilled in you all. The $1.18 million you received was not
that much when attorneys' fees were taken out.

Your family suffered too, David... they too are owed a great debt by
the citizens of this nation and somebody is going to do something to
let that be formalized in writing.

It's easy to make Attorney jokes - - yet look at what SHINING STARS
the attorneys fighting against BNSF Railways' lies and foot-dragging
showed themselves to be...

...they did what MOST OTHER LAW FIRMS would not do...spent TONS of
their own money to hunt down BNSF's lies ....slogging slowly through
the mud and the swamps... never losing their resolve...never allowing
themselves to be intimidated...just like Lord Baltimore kept coming
after Robert Redford & Paul Newman in "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance
Kid". This nation owes those attorneys a debt of gratitude.

The former FRA Inspector who informed George Knapp of KLAS-TV in Las
Vegas.. another good man.. note how Union Pacific took issue with the
safety issues even though it was an expert formerly within the FRA who
brought up the seminal issues for the KLAS-TV producers of that story.

Now it's time to put these buzzards "out of the olive oil business"
as Al Pacino/Michael Corleone said in the Godfather movie.


Dave Nelson wrote:
"If I have limited Signal Knowledge as you claim, then there is
nothing
I can say that is of value [to potential terrorists], so don't worry
about it."

Excellent point, David

You look at TV Journalist, George Knapp's expose on the Union Pacific
Railyard in Las Vegas...

...the conduct of CSX termminating the employment of an employee who
failed to meet the Federal Hearing/Audiology Standard when no such
standard exists

...the $4.2 million awarded in sanctions alone against BNSF Railway for
the countless lies and blame shifting in the case heard by Judge Ellen
Maas in Minnesota and BNSF's totally reprehensible response which
detoured from the issue of "public policy formation"; to wit, "why
are stewards of regulatory testing acting unethically and frustrating
the efforts of the court's officers?"

...Norfolk Southern's recent loss in an OSHA case where the
Administrative Law Judge dragged in all 22 US States where Norfolk
Southern operates and damned the entire NS culture of non-compliance
effectively saying Norfolk Southern was pretending to be something
they're not by discouraging employees who were injured to NOT FOLLOW
Federal Regulations and report those injuries so that Norfolk Southern
could win the EJ Harriman Safety Award.

Amazing that the spineless political whores in politics and the
bureaucracy would take someone who won a $1.18 million whistleblower
lawsuit awarded by the US Government and then have a DIFFERENT ARM of
that government basically call him a troublemaker and potential
threat.

The threat is the rail industry that has that kind of stranglehold on
the political & bureaucratic apparatuses in this nation.

Anjelica Palank... a woman who went to law school to familiarize
herself with the nuances of what was happening in the CSX/Amtrack case
where the judge called CSX's "rusty nail" securement "borderline
criminal"

She gave the $60 million she was awarded for the death of her husband,
Police Sergeant Paul Palank to charity.

To the brave CSX employee who approached her and risked HIS FAMILY's
livelihood to tell Anjelica Palank that things were either "being
covered up" or maybe "just hurried along"

There's alot of evil in this world... I'm not the person who should
be talking about it since I was willing to participate in regulatory
violations to get/keep a job.

The reason that I have to talk about it is because I'm refusing to let
these buzzards successfully beat me in the game of musical chairs they
played.... I found out about all of you... 

I'm not a better person because of it; I am what I am..... but I
won't hesitate to acknowledge what you have all shown yourselves to be
and paid the price for.


Name: Dave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 July 2010

RE: Slack Action

Sorry man, I'm going to spill my guts on this site.
Remember?  I'm the Dave Nelson listed on the NO FLY LIST as a
potential threat to National Transportation Security.
I have no options but to take these guys on in order to get off the
list.
If I have limited Signal Knowledge as you claim, then there is nothing
I can say that is of value, so don't worry about it.

Name: Boyles
E-mail: BOXCAR....
Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years
Posted: 02 December 2011

BOXCAR....,,,I WAS IN KENTUCKY,,,,CORBIN  EK,, DIVISION...MR. OAKS WAS
IN CHARGE OF THE COMPLETE DIVISION,,,,MR, EDWARDS WAS SECOND IN
CHARGE...,,,,,,,,YES....CSX WAS LIVE AND WELL.,,,I HAVE CSX RULE
BOOKS,,CSX,,TIMETABLES FROM THE EARLY 80,S,,,,
  WE HAD TO COVER UP THE SCL/L&N THAT WAS ON OUR HARDHATS..VEHICLES AND
ENGINES.....CSX WAS LIVE AND WELL IN THE SOUTH....
 IT MAY DEPEND WHAT PART OF THE TODAYS...CSX SYSTEM YOU WORKED FOR...
I HAVE EVERY CHECK STUB SINCE THE DAY I HIRED IN................
 CSX WAS IN EARLY 80,S IN THE SOUTH.....WE HAD TO COVER UP SCL/L&N ON
HARD HATS,,,ENGINES ,,,VEHICLES,,,WITH CSX STICKERS.....
  ,,,I WAS IN KENTUCKY,,,,,,WE HAD TO CHANGE ALL STICKERS ON HARD
HATS,,,TRUCKS AND SOME ENGINES......WE HAD TO COVER UP..ANYTHING THAT
SAID,,,.L&N....SCL/L&N OR ANY OTHER SIR NAME........WE STUCK ...CSX
STICKERS OVER THE OLD STICKERS........
...I HAD TO GET USE TO ANSWERING THE RADIO,,,,WITH,,,CSX,,,,..
I WORKED ON THE EK DIVISION....CORBIN DIVISION OFFICE...,,IN
1981---1983,,,..ALL DIVISIONS WERE NOT THE SAME,,,,,SOME WERE LATER
THAN OTHERS.....,,,,CSX WAS LIVE AND WELL IN EARLY 80,S IN KENTUCKY AND
THE SOUTH......I HAVE ALL PAPER WORK TO PROVE....CSX WAS STILL IN THE
EARLY STAGES OF COMPLETLY TAKING OVER....,,,I HOPE THIS WAS A HELP TO
YOU..
  THANKS FOR REPLY.....BOYLES...
,,,

Name: boxcar
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 02 December 2011

Boyles,

Educate me... You hired in 73? Your first 10 years were perfect. I
wasnt aware that csx took over in 83.. they were still doing conrail
book of rules in 95 in the indianapolis area then went to the  blended
book of rules till 2000. Where were you that csx took over in 83?  Was
I mislead?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 02 December 2011

Y-

You're an idiot.

Name: Y
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 01 December 2011

A union not able to strike is useless   what a waste of money 

Congress kiss are asses

Name: BOYLES
E-mail: BOXCAR
Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years
Posted: 01 December 2011

BOXCAR,,,
 I DO KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT,,,MENTAL ABUSE,!!!! I RETIRED
EARLY TO GET THE HELL OUT,!!!!
 THE FIRST 10 YEARS OF MY RAILROAD WAS PERFECT.!!!!  THEN...CSX TOOK
OVER.!!!  FROM THAT DAY ON,,IT WAS DIFFEENT.!!!   I WAS HARRASED,,,PUT
DOWN BY SEVERAL BOSES.!!! AND,,NOTHING I COULD DO BUT TAKE
IT,,,,,,,WHILE SOME OF THE YOUNGER GUYS UNDER ME...THAT THE BOSS
LIKE,,,GOT AWAY WITH ALOT OF THINGS.!!!!
  THERE WERE ALOT OF UNLAWFULL THINGS GOING ON,,BUT,,,I WAS ALONE,,,IF
YOU DID NOT DRINK WITH THE BOSS,,OR IF YOU DID NOT RUN AROUND WITH THE
BOSS,,,YOU WERE THE OUTCAST.!!!!....
YES,,,I DO KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT,,,IT MAY BE ALOT WORSE NOW
AS YOU SAID....
 I HAVE BEEN BACK IN THE YARD,,,,2 TIMES SINCE I RETIRED....I HAVE LOST
NOTHING THERE,,,IT IS NOT THE RAILROAD OF YESTERDAY.....
   IT IS A NEW GENERATION NOW,,,,,BUT,,,ALL OF YOU GUYS STAND IN
THERE,,,,,,,,MY WIFE AND I LIKE OUR RETIREMENT CHECKS,!!!
 I HAD TO THROW THAT JOKE IN,!!!!   .....
I USE TO GO TO MY UNION,,,,,THAT WAS A MISTAKE,,,,,THE COMPANY AND THE
UNIONS ARE THE SAME,!!!!!
  BEWARE OF WHAT YOU SAY AND WHO YOU SAY IT TOO.....I HAVE
LEARNED,,,YOU HAVE NO FRIENDS ON THE RAILROAD.....YOU THINK YOU DO.!!!
,,,,,,TO ALL YOU NEW GUYS,,,HANG IN THERE,,,AND PROTECT WHAT IS
YOURS.!!!!,,,
UNION,,,WHAT UNION,,,,YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN,!!! ALL THE UNION WANTS IS
THE MONTHLY CUT DUES.!!!   UNIONS ARE A JOKE NOW,!!!,,,,,,RETIRED...

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 01 December 2011

Boxcar,
You are only half right, always remember the old heads are around to
not only tell tales of years ago, some have a few from last month.

Listen it is a learned skill.

Name: boxcar
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 01 December 2011

Boyles,

You retired 11 years ago.. You havent a clue how bad it has gotten. You
got out in the nick of time. So please dont bash the people for getting
on here and venting about the hostile work enviornment that the people
have to endure on a daily basis. You cant possibly be getting out of
bed everyday heading out to a job that you have to prepare yourself for
mental abuse before you even get out of your car. Dont tell people to
quit. Thats what they told all the chinese workers in the factories,
but it didnt work because they had nothing else to go to at the time.
The company plays on that. They know the economy is unstable. Quote
from high ranking csx official..."Sometimes you have to punish your
workers to keep them in line. They are like children and need to be
disciplined!"

IF you cant support those who come on here to vent their frustrations
in their work place then you need to move on. A website called CSX
SUCKS is not for you. Maybe you can find a site for retired railroaders
who want to reminisce about the life and times of the old railroad.

Name: BOYLES
E-mail: KYLE
Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years
Posted: 30 November 2011

...KYLE,,,,,
THANKS FOR YOUR POST......YOU ARE 100% CORRECT...!!! I HIRED IN 1973,, 
 RETIRED IN 2000.....
  THE WORKERS ALONG WITH THE SUPERVISORS,,,,,WERE A DIFFERENT BREED OF
PEOPLE...
.... I REMEMBER THE DAYS,,,I LOOKED FORWARD TO GOING TO WORK,!!!THE OLD
RAILROAD WAS A FUN PLACE TO WORK,,,,I HIRED IN,,,MAKING,,$3.50 A
HOUR,!!!
...AND,,,I WAS PROUND TO BE A RAILROADER.!!!!!   WHEN I LEFT THE NEW
RAILROAD,,,,,IT WAS NOT THE SAME MORALS OF YESTERDAY....
....MANY POST ARE CORRECT,,,,,,TODAYS CSX AND OTHER RAILROADS DO NOT
GIVE A CRAP ABOUT YOU ARE WHAT YOU STAND FOR......
THE RULES ARE FOR THE WORKERS TO GO BY,,,,,,,THE MANAGEMENT DOES NOT
CARE WHAT UNION CONTRACT STAND FOR,,,,,AND,,BE HONEST,,,,THE UNIONS OF
TODAY ARE BOUGHT OFF BY THE COMPANIES AND DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE WORKERS
TO A DEGREE....THEY LIKE THE DUES PAID MONTHLY....
 LOOK AT ALL THE BENIFITS TRANSPORTATION AND ENGINERS HAVE LOST....
I JOKE ALOT ON HERE TO GET A RESPONCE FROM SOME OF THE POST....
..BUT,,,TODAYS RAILROADS ARE A EMBARASSEMENT TO THE OLD HEADS OF
YESTERDAY.....
   BUT,,,THIS IS NOT ONLY IN RAILROADS......THE UNITED STATES HAS
CHANGED......THE YOUTH OF TODAY,,,HAVE NO CLUE WHAT TO DO OR,,HOW TO DO
IT...
 WE HAVE A LOST GENERATION,!!!!!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 30 November 2011

Pines

Snow & ice build up on brake riggings isn't a new problem. Actually
there is a solution not sure if it's still in the rules but an
automomatic brake application is to occasionally be made to prevent it
from happening. If I remember correctly in a heavy snowfall it's every
15-30 minutes. This can be done by streach braking or bunch braking the
train. It doesn't have to be for long just enough to cause friction &
heat to melt the snow & prevent ice. This should be a must especially
before reaching a decending grade. The other problem which hopefully
they still do in colder regions is putting alcohol in the brake line to
prevent it from freezing. We had a train get by a stop signal years ago
snow prevented it from slowing & stopping. In my area it's a bad
winter if you have snow on the ground for more than a week. Usually we
get snow and it's gone within a couple of days. Areas like this winter
preventive measures are nearly non-excistent.

Name: KYLE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 30 November 2011

All i know is many do not quit a rr job period cuz no were can you make
this kind of money with only a high school education, just try it
somewere else and see what ya get without a colledge degree and many
colledge grads cant even find a half decent job today, and were else
can you find a job were you get payed for sitting on yer bum most of
the time and even sleeping too? the problem with the class 1s today is
that the management peeps did not come out of the rank&file like they
used too and that i blame on the rr,s themselfs cuz they should know
better,You cant be a tm or a rfe unless you have had the experince of
being in the field yourself and untill that changes we are going to
have to put up with these morons they now hire in the manager jobs, I
have talked with real old heads now retired who worked for the ex, prr
& b&o, the rr back then what they told me was like a big family and its
sure not like that today, If only the guys in those ivory towers would
wise up already?

Name: BOYLES
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years
Posted: 29 November 2011

IF ANY OF YOU DO NOT LIKE YOUR JOBS,,,,,,WALK AWAY.!!!!!

WALMART IS HIRING ,,,GREETERS,!!!!!   CSX IS NOT MAKING ANY OF YOU
STAY.!!!   BUT,,,I BET YOU LIKE THE MONEY AND BENIFITS,!!!!!

SOUNDS LIKE OLD CROWS ,,,CROWING,!!!!!,,,,,

DOES NOT MATTER WHAT YOUR JOB IS,,,DO A GOOD DAYS WORK FOR YOUR
EMPLOYER......BE RSPECTFULL......BE KIND,,,,,AND,,YOU WILL GET KINDNESS
BACK,,,,,...

Name: Daily Rant
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 30+ years
Posted: 29 November 2011

The  Jar & Two Beers...

    When things in your life seem almost too much to handle, when 24
hours in a day are not enough, remember the  jar and the 2 Beers.

    A professor stood before his philosophy class and had some items in
front of him.

    When the class began, he wordlessly picked up a very large and
empty  jar and proceeded to fill it with golf balls.

    He then asked the students if the jar was full.

    They agreed that it was.

    The professor then picked up a box of pebbles and poured them into
the jar. He shook the jar lightly.

    The pebbles rolled into the open areas between the golf balls.

    He then asked the students again if the jar was full.

    They agreed it was.

    The professor next picked up a box of sand and poured it into the
jar.

    Of course, the sand filled up everything else.

    He asked once more if the jar was full..

    The students responded with a unanimous 'yes.'

    The professor then produced two Beers from under the table and
poured the entire contents into the jar effectively filling the empty
space between the sand.

    The students laughed..

    'Now,' said the professor as the laughter subsided, 'I want you
to recognize that this jar represents your life.

    The golf balls are the important things---your family, your
children, your health, your friends and your favorite passions---and if
everything else was lost and only they remained, your life would still
be full.

    The pebbles are the other things that matter like your job, your
house and your car..

    The sand is everything else---the small stuff.

    'If you put the sand into the jar first,' he continued, 'there
is no room for the pebbles or the golf balls.

    The same goes for life.

    If you spend all your time and energy on the small stuff you will
never have room for the things that are important to you.

    Pay attention to the things that are critical to your happiness.

    Spend time with your children.

    Spend time with your parents.

    Visit with grandparents.

    Take your spouse out to dinner.

    Play another 18.

    There will always be time to clean the house and fix the disposal.

    Take care of the golf balls first---the things that really matter.

    Set your priorities.

    The rest is just sand.

    One of the students raised her hand and inquired what the Beer
represented.

    The professor smiled and said, 'I'm glad you asked.'

    The Beer just shows you that no matter how full your life may seem,
there's always room for a couple of Beers with a friend.

    Please share this with someone you care about. I JUST DID!   Sorry
this is CSX  We sweat all the small stuff and drink alot of Beer.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 29 November 2011

NOMO that was 65 mph train speed AFTER no throttle and being in
emergency brake mode for 6 miles. A obvious train brake problem. I
would think 17,300 pounds (downhill) would challenge the train brakes
with just dew on.

BUT Mikey has a million bucks to give away and can't fix the problem.


http://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/showstory.php?Story_id=535044
CSX Corp. Chairman Michael Ward...plan to announce a $1 million
challenge grant Wednesday from the Michael and Kim Ward Foundation for
infrastructure improvements at the college campus.
 In addition to Ward...  1:30 p.m. Wednesday 
February 6, 2010 at 2:15 a.m.
The train was 6581 feet long and had a trailing tonnage of 17,300
tons.
The derailment occurred while descending the 1.47% Sandpatch grade
U88303 DERAILED DUE TO EXCESSIVE SPEED ACCOUNT EXCESSIVE SNOW AND ICE
BUILD UP ON BRAKE RIGGING.

Name: economy slave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 29 November 2011

HEY BOYLES...

Obviously you are the IDIOT!!  GET A LIFE? What kind of joke is that.
WE WORK FOR THE RAILROAD!  Take more than 1 sick day a month and you
get a nasty gram from the nazis. Thats why our medical is going up. get
sick and cant see your doctor have to go to med care or emergency room
just so you can prove you were sick. 
Hit someone in a car you get a few days off but you dont get paid for
them unless you kill the person....OOOHHHH theres moral support..
Cut the boards so short that your phone rings all night long cause they
are running the rosters trying to find someone to work. Forget that your
family suffers as well. Baby woke up and spouse tired as
hell...Agreement they signed says they will keep enough people hired
and on the rosters so this shit doesnt happen. Spend the day working
with a new guy who got the worst piss poor training ever seen on any rr
because cheap bastards dont want to cut into the company profits and pay
to keep them out there until they learn the job! Now your spending the
whole day stressed and babysitting praying you dont lose your job by
the end of the day! Lets not forget the hundreds of dollars you have to
fight for cause they decided they didnt want to honor the agreement that
they signed their damb john henry on! Oh, I forgot, its just an
agreement. No better than a hand shake! How about the bullshit failures
they put on peoples records just so suck up management can get a pat on
the back from the Jacksonville Nazi's! Off to monkey court you go....
Always guilty until proven innocent. Thousands of dollars wasted on
unnecessary investigations. Money that could go to the employees. Just
too damb much to print on one page...Oh...before you say "if you dont
like your job then quit", when the economy gets better you might be
surprised how many of us do!In the meantime its our responsibility to
let the people know exactly what goes on!

GET OFF THIS WEBSITE MORON! Your doing nothing but wasting good space
for the people who understand what its for..CSX SUCKS!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 29 November 2011

Hey Con 1-10:

There's no doubt that Mr. Pines has a personal agenda, he's annoying
and some of his posts are dated. However, information like this is
important and should be disseminated as widely as possible. Not only
for the T&E employees but the public as well.

CSX and the other carriers hate bad press...this certainly qualifies.
It took getting as far as box 29 on pg.1 to figure out the cause. Not
that it couldn't have happened if the speed was 50 MPH.

Besides, this is a safety issue and this is the safety thread!

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 28 November 2011

Whoa Conductor ---your profanity is showing your railroad intelligence.
Have you read these so-called investigations? A real FRA would find the
idiot railroad should have been not running at all. Was the coal going
to rot?

http://www.fra.dot.gov/downloads/safety/Accident_Investigation/2010/hq201006.PDF
There were 24-30 inches of snow on the ground and near white out
conditions.
130 loaded coal hopper cars.

Estimated damages including equipment, track, and signal, is a reported
$2,200,500.

http://www.fra.dot.gov/downloads/safety/Accident_Investigation/2010/2010summary.pdf

Name: BOYLES
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 20-30 years
Posted: 28 November 2011

.........

;;;;;;;;;;;;PEOPLE...GET A LIFE..!!!!!!!;;;;;

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 27 November 2011

Dear Pines, Shut the fuck up. No one cares! Webmaster, please block this
stupid son of a bitch. Thanks, OUT!

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 27 November 2011

If government employees had to abide by USMC General Orders.

1. To take charge of this post and all government property in view.

That  means the FRA airheads huh?
My complaint?
Recording devices stolen that tax payers where charged for by
railroad.
Whistle posts at 17 seconds and not required 20 seconds for 50 mph
trains.
No train brakes  with 17 seconds warning according to crews own
statement.
There is no thump meter on the train so train speed couldn't be
determined especially with brakes applied (speed would be 0 while
sliding wheels would be 49 mph)
It would be physically impossible for a vehicle going around a gate on
a 18 foot wide road to cause damage to the opposite gate since the
vehicle would be even with the gate to start with. FRA your DIRTY.


www.fra.dot.gov/rrs/ViolationReport.aspx#
http://www.fra.dot.gov/downloads/safety/Accident_Investigation/2010/hq201007.PDF
 
""There are no recording devices in the grade crossing control
house.""

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 26 November 2011

Hey APE 10-20:

Thank you for the Info, it's been duly noted and the tally sheet
marked.

Miami of Ohio is called the cradle of coaches because of all the
successful big time college football coaches that got started there.
I afraid Boyles in Birmingham is developing their own reputation for
all the POS that got their start their. Conner, and Danny Spenser to
name a few...funny how these types tend to follow each other around.
Didn't Spenser spend some time in Indy before he landed in Lafayette?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: CSX Customer, for N/A
Posted: 25 November 2011

Thank you APE

I will place that in the Rolodex and appreciate the info.

Maybe that info will come in handy for the future.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 25 November 2011

Update for your rolodex:

The Division Manager on the GLD is:
T. Scott Conner(scott_conner@csx.com)
formally ADM Huntington Division(West), 
formally Terminal Supt. Birmingham, AL.
Engineer by Craft

His Number 2 is ADM
Jack Vierling III(Jack_Vierling@csx.com)
formally ADM Huntington Division(East)
formally STO Huntington Division(Jax Ops Center)
Train Dispatcher by Craft.

Hope this helps, they are not NS "Nazi's" or David Brown lovers
however....More like a couple of Frulla's good ol' boys...

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 25 November 2011

Hey Nazi Exterminator:

Exactly who would the Great Lakes Head Turd in Charge be?

So all the uninitiated readers know who you speak of...besides, I
can't count your nomination for the "Brown Banana" without a name!

Might be we have a repeat winner this year?

Name: Nazi Exterminator 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 30+ years
Posted: 24 November 2011

The Great Lakes Head Turd in Charge is loyal to The Rooster Fish Express
and Davey NS Shitbag Brown just his kind.  So until Brown is GONE expect
more of the same.     Call Wards office, FRA, Senator Lugar see if they
like the calls.

Nazi Exterminator

Name: Bo
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Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 24 November 2011

Hey No Name On Your Post

"Avon - would one of the managers doing this illegal testing happen to
be David Harris"

What do you mean by one?  Try all of the managers at Avon.  Under Scott
Conner, all of Avon's managers running so scared for their job, and
their fear of not getting their 15 failures a month, that they've
resorted to doing what ever it takes in order to keep their job.  If
this means that they need to lie and cheat, even fire you for good,
consider it done.  The CSX Ethics policy be damed.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 23 November 2011

Avon - would one of the managers doing this illegal testing happen to be
David Harris

Name: RRJ
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 23 November 2011

Pines

That article doesn't make sense. Why would the locomotive engineer
tell a trainmen to jump up run over pull the emergency brake lever when
he has the automatic brake handle right next to him? I've had to put
trains in emergency during my carreer for various reasons including
grade crossing accidents not once did I tell a trainmen to do it for
me. lol. I'm not saying it can't happen. I've never heard anything
like this before. It's sounds more like trainmen panic more than
anything else then he tripped over his own shoe laces.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 22 November 2011

http://www.startribune.com/investigators/111461899.html?page=3&c=y

"""When the train's engineer realized a pickup truck was not going
to stop at the crossing, he yelled a warning to Richardson, who jumped
from his seat to activate a brake on the front wall of the cab,
according to the railroad's account."""

How long does this take and what genius did the engineering?

Name: BOYLES
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years
Posted: 22 November 2011

GOOD HEALTH IS FAR BETTER THAN BEING HURT FOR REAL,,,AND,,,THE MONEY
WILL NOT HELP....,,,,,MAY HELP YOUR WIFE .!!!!!!!

BOY,,,AT SOME OF THE POST I READ,,LOOKS LIKE HIGH SCHOOL KIDS,!!!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 22 November 2011

This is the situation,A man went to work for CSX and worked for 18
months.He then got in trouble and lied and said he got hurt {but did
not at this time}Had a lawyer within a week and was sent to doctors
that the lawyers sent him to.To make the story short he recieved
900000.00,But was hurt for life,his choice.Be thankful for your
job,remember it only takes 6 weeks to train someone to take your job.I
am not an employee but have seen both sides.

Name: Bo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 22 November 2011

Railer,

What do we do when we see management testing crews using altered
testing strips in the switches?  Is there anyone we can report this to?
 How do we document what we see when we're not allowed to carry any
electronic devices?  There has to be some way that we can prove that
Avon Management under Scott Conners is out of control.

In my opinion.  Avon Management needs to go back to the Redi Center for
retraining on testing procedures, or at the very least get two round
trips with Bill Pack. (I believe this is now the prefered method of
retraining for people at Avon.) 

Thanks

Name: Bo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 22 November 2011

Railer

When Avon management violates the rules, or the testing procedures they
use on us, what can we do to correct this situation?  Is there anyone we
can report this to that will actually do something?

The way management treats us is nothing like they told us railroading
would be when we were at the Redi Center

Thanks

Name: railer
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 21 November 2011

ALERT AVON CREWS

Watch your ass avon crews. Your supervisors are putting those testing
strips in several switch points at a time.  If they ask you to set a
car out off your cut check every single peice of the rail. They are
putting them underneath the ball of the rail as well. I have been
hearing that they also have altered the stip with a tape tab so they
can place it farther down on the rail instead of placing them they way
the fra insructed them to do. They are pissed cause they cant get
failures on them if they put them on the rail like they are supposed
to. So now they are altering the things so they can try and get you
better. It aint o testing no more. Its lets do what ever it takes to
get a failure on someone.

Name: kyle
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 21 November 2011

All i know about the rr since i have been on it is that they will spend
millions to do away with a 100 dollar a day job, what i am talking
about is all the towers they closed a min expence to put in these big
dispatch centers, they came after those tower operaters big time and
operations worked very well with the block stations, those dam things
worked if it was 100 outside or 20 below zero, and ow you just get a
lil thundersorm and half the system gets knocked off line, I talked
with sme signal men and they tld me how well built those old towers
were, ie the equiptment, it was made to last 300 yrs or better, think
he told me wabco built most of that stuff in the 1920,s,, i seen the
insides of many of the old signal towers, 100 lil braty kids could not
harm that stuff as that is how well that it was built, now today, wind,
rain, snow puts these new disp centers out of commission, yup that the
rr managment thinking today spend millions for a system that alaways
fails just to get rid of a few jobs.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 20 November 2011

Imagine that a Avon YM builds a huge cut for the Departure.  Never
enough.   Indianapolis has no Clue about large trains running down hill
into Indy.  Many close calls just never made it to Indy.  

Getting on and off moving equipment for Safety Reasons is permitted
especially if you are a Train Master, although you might get killed
doing it.   

Just enter a O test failure in his history if you got the Balls.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 20 November 2011

Avon loses control of a remote? imagine that!

Dragging a cut way heavier than the rules allow for a single unit out
the main to shove a departure track...Con forgets to cut the air in on
the head three and guess what?

Con is on head end but because the rules say you can't be on the
walkways at 15 MPH he didn't tie the hand brake. TM boards (moving
equipment) and ties hand brake as train starts up the only hill for
miles and saves Indianapolis from certain doom.

Lets see if CSX can cover this up!

While on the subject of Avon, I understand the O-testing has gotten so
out of control that bad things could happen to snakes in the grass.
Watch those inbounds...might be a train load Whoop Ass!!!

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 November 2011

Slackie if you had goggled "idiot that is clueless about railroad
crossings" that would come up all the cops the railroads gave the GCCI
(Grade crossing Collision Investigations) to. Now google google for what
google means and that what you get on your google ability.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 19 November 2011

One of the best highlight stories of a remote happened a few years ago.
The Remote was dragging out a cut on to the mainline one of the remote
operators was standing on the lead locomotive front platform protecting
the head end. He was passing a track force working on the main all
smiles and waving. What he didn't realise he was in a 707 and never
got permission to enter. lol. CSX covered it up. Lucky no one got hurt
and even luckier that there wasn't any rail missing. lol. Then not
long after CSX cuts the switchmen off goes to one man remotes.

Name: in fear for safety
E-mail: 
Employed as: CSX Customer, for N/A
Posted: 19 November 2011

AVON LOSES CONTROL OF REMOTE TRAIN!

SEEMS THIS MORNING AN AVON REMOTE LOST ITS LINK WITH THE LITTLE GREEN
OPERATOR BOX IS HEADED DOWN THE MAIN LINE AT 14 MILES PER HOUR. LAST
HEARD IT WAS BEING CHASED DOWN BY A TRAINMASTER!!   LOOKS LIKE A NEW
MOVIE FOR THE BOX OFFICE.....THEY CAN CAL IT"TONKA TOY GONE WILD"   
WATCH OUT PUBLIC... TONKA COMING THROUGH  LETS SEE THEM COVER THIS ONE
UP!

Name: slack action
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 18 November 2011

Robert, no not stalking you , I just googled "idiot that is clueless
about railroad crossings" and your name came up...

There is no such thing as a 40 ton train..

Now read this slow 8.845  " stop,look and listen... then you live

So, if a cop sees a person run around the gates and get hit by a train
, he is lying.
If a cop see the gates not come down and a car gets hit, he is telling
the truth..

Can you say flip/flop Pines or just a liar... 

You are way out of your comfort zone.

I hope this helps you out.

Remember: 100% of all crossing accidents are preventable.

Name: BOYLES
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years
Posted: 18 November 2011

THE LAWYERS WHO READ THIS LOVE IT,,,,,,,,GET MONEY FOR THE PRIVATE
PEOPLE EVERY TIME,,,
 DO YOU PEOPLE DO THIS ON PURPOSE OR JUST HATE THE RAILROAD.!!!!

IF SOME OF YOU HATE IT THIS MUCH,,,,FIND ANOTHER JOB,,,

THIS SOUNDS LIKE A BUNCH OF OLD HENS,,!!!!

Name: Whore Bitch
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 18 November 2011

Anna Stayton gets pregnant and what happens?  Daddy and stepmother gets
her a job in Florida. It's amazing when the whore bitch fucks the help
and gets promoted. Where's the core values, between Anna's legs!

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 November 2011

Wow Slackie ---you ah stalking me? That's good.
http://www.topix.com/forum/com/cni/T6A0T23CHAJLAB9HN/p4 From 2007?

Now read this slow ---"""Rail maintenance vehicle hits car""" Not
a 40 ton train.

Now read this slow 6.50.2 """Approaching Road Crossings"""

On-track equipment must approach all grade crossings prepared to stop
and must yield the right of way to vehicular traffic. If necessary,
flag the crossing to protect movement of on-track equipment."""

Where's the railroads fail to yield ticket?

Name: slack action
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 17 November 2011

Quote by Pines:

Police: Faulty railroad stop arms led to accident

Qoute by Pines:

I agree the gates were faulty. The train detection circuitry being used
is deadly junk. The turn off circuitry turns the gates on when the train
is like two seconds away setting up the driver to be blindsided and
killed. It happens all the time and is coivered up. The cops and
railroad falsely reporting the gates as working need to be in a very
nasty prison for a very long time. Federal statutes call for the FRA to
come out on failed signals. Where they at? 

SO, by your own admission the cops and witnesses falsely report the
gates as working.  So which is it.  Do they lie or don't they... 
SOUNDS like the only person lying is YOU.  Also, a train will weigh
more than 400 tons.

I hope this helps you out.

Remember 100% of ALL crossing accidents are preventable

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 November 2011

MORE railroad jury tampering

http://www.thetimesnews.com/articles/car-49774-maintenance-vehicle.html
Norfolk Southern Corp. Director of Public Relations Robin Chapman said
Wednesday night that the driver allegedly drove around the crossing
gate at the intersection before the rail maintenance vehicle struck the
vehicle.
http://www.thetimesnews.com/articles/burlington-49795-police-railroad.html
Police: Faulty railroad stop arms led to accident
http://www.news-record.com/content/2011/11/17/article/2_in_burlington_escape_injury_when_car_hit_on_tracks
Witnesses said the railroad crossing arm did not come down.

“The lights and gate were operating properly,” Chapman said. “The
driver drove around or under the gate. There were no injuries.”

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 November 2011

Hey Dis 10-20:

How do you think Ward and his minions get around...by train?

I'm willing to bet CSX has a substantial Aviation Dept., probably a
couple of Citations or the like. Maybe even a chopper or two.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 10-20 years
Posted: 16 November 2011

Thank god this company doesn't fly airplanes!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 16 November 2011

Hey Jax YM:

You're worried about Pines and his obsession...you seem to be
obsessing over L. Touchstone!

Name: Jax
E-mail: 
Employed as: Yard Master, for 20-30 years
Posted: 16 November 2011

What is up with Mr. Pines obsession with crossings?

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 16 November 2011

suzannah

Definition of the word Occupy: 1) To take up 2) To take or hold
possession or control of 3) to fill 4) to reside in. These don't refer
to 1/2 or 3/4 of the space. It about common sense. I can't figure our
why someone wouldn't lay on the horn for an extra second or two. That
to me is laziness. Were they taught wrong? Most engineer trainees go
with a quite a few engineers while training. It sounds like this person
just felt like doing it their way. You made a case scenario that no one
would try to beat a train once they entered the crossing. I've seen
accidents where people have hit the side of a locomotive at a crossing.
If the download shows the engineer quit using the horn figuring they
were in the space of the crossing but not entirely through it a lawyer
would have a field day against CSX.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 November 2011

Are you saying Brown likes to blow all the way across the road crossing.
   Sounds real Queer, just like him.   Nazification of CSX  


Fetch Rover Association

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 November 2011

The key word oh Susieanna---is """PUBLIC""" crossings for train
horns not private. So for 10 years or more you have been blowing train
horns at private crossing which have no whistle posts? WOW that's
magical. The real for no train horns reason at private crossings ---FED
money don't cover private crossings and railroads are greedy bastards
too cheap to put up $10 whistle signs and maintain them.

"""2 long, 1 short and 1 long. The horn must continue to sound until
the lead locomotive or train car occupies the grade crossing."""

The key words here """lead locomotive or train car occupies the
grade crossing""" which is confusing. 
A. When cow catcher first enters the crossing.
B. Who is in the train car to blow the horn?
C. How long is long?
D. How short is short?
E. Why have horn rules and whistle signs instead of horn signs.
F. The entire locomotive must occupy the crossing.
G. It doesn't matter ---the railroad will change the data anyway.
This explains
http://www.insiderexclusive.com/show-content/305-death-on-the-tracks-bnsf-railroads-24-million-dollar-cover-up-part-i.html


Whoops http://www.fra.dot.gov/Pages/1773.shtml

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 November 2011

I love a good debate...I forgot what I was going to say because I copped
a feel!

Oh yeah...I don't know how it is today but I was always told that
"when in doubt, take the safest way out". That was back in the days
of the pre-job safety briefing and the safety word of the day.

Just take the most conservative interpretation and let the chips fall
were they will. When production starts to effect the bottom line, CSX
will fire Brown.

It happened at the NS and it will happen at CSX...Ingram's gone and
Brown's next in line!

Name: suzannah
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 15 November 2011

RRJ,

Thats the proper interpretation???  You say?? I believe that was the
point of sick and tired and his general chairmans request. NOT EVERYONE
interprets all words the same. If there is a problem with the wording of
a rule that causes any kind of confusion with any employee then it is
the responsibility of the company to make sure that confusion is
addressed. You have been out here long enough to know that there are
numerous "GRAY" areas in our rules as well as rules that conflict
with each other. Lord, how many times have you seen a bulletin come out
just to be cancelled a few days later because it wasnt correct! Numerous
times there have been conflicts between management and crew members
about what a rule "REALLY MEANS". It only takes one time for someone
to get a failure over a rule they didnt understand because of the
wording used in that rule to send up a red flag. This topic was brought
up at the VOE meeting I attended. We asked that a 24 hour hotline be set
up so when we ran into this problem with management we could call and
get it settled by someone in OPR department. I asked them if it was
fair to assume that when they wrote the rules they knew what their
"meaning" was when they wrote them. Of course I was told...."I would
think so"! They are supposed to be looking into the idea. Wait and see
as usual. If they can circulate a notice telling you to set your clocks
back then they should have no problem circulating a notice to all
employess clarifying what they expect to be done on a rule that people
are still obviously(since someone was wrote up on it) misinterpreting
and DIDNT HEAR THE RUMOR!  God, can you imagine what our military would
be like if all new orders or problems were addressed by rumor only!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 15 November 2011

suzannah

Blaring the horn thru the entire crossing is the way it's been
forever. I understand the concept that being 1/2 or 3/4 of the way is
basically occupying the crossing. In my area 3-4 years ago they were
nailing people for this and blowing the horn beyond the 20 seconds
limit. Is it rumors? Blaring the horn ringing the bell for the entire
crossing is the way I was taught 31 years ago. What's changed? One
e-test they loved to do was a stop & flag at a crossing a lot of people
flunked over not using the horn till the locomotive was entirely across
it. Why not do what they want? If there isn't a rule in place the LC &
GC shouldn't have a problem wiining the investigation. On the charge
letter it should specify the rule violations. Operating rule 13b which
deals with the engine bell states 'it must be rung while approaching
and PASSING public crossing at grade' this should also apply to the
horn. I know it states under operating rule 14 'horn & whistle signal
section' until the engine or train OCCUPIES the crossing. Why is it
difficult not to interpet that to mean till the front of the lead
locomtive is entirely by the crossing. That is the correct
interpatation. This isn't a free for all to do as one pleases. It's
called common sense.

Name: suzannah
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 15 November 2011

RRJ,   

OK, now that you have me thinking about your comment alittle more, let
me give you another thought to ponder on.
Rule states you must be blowing your horn no less than 15 seconds and
no more than 20 BEFORE entering the crossing. They want the gates
activated and down for at least 20 seconds if possible before you enter
the crossing. So the gates are down and the lights are on and you enter
the crossing and stop blowing when you are halfway through it. You are
in this massive piece of equipment. Not some teany weenie little
scooter. Do you honestly think its going to make one bit of difference?
It wouldnt make a bit of difference if you were still blowing or not. If
some idiot tried to run around the gate in front of you after you were
already in the middle of the crossing Im pretty sure they are going to
end up running into the side of you instead.  Maybe if you are going
5mph they might get in front of you but most of us are not traveling
that slow. So lets say you are out in the country and you enter a
private crossing with no lights or gates. Again, you are halfway or
even 3/4 the way through and you let off the horn. Again, you are
already in the middle of the road! In order to hit someone that driver
had to already be there before you got to the crossing or they are
idiots who think they are superman! Again, I dont think anyone would
have enough time to even get in front of you in order to get hit after
you have half the road blocked and your still on the move. I have never
had anyone try to run around the gates or outrun me when I was already
in the middle of the road.  It is always just before I get to the
crossing. And we all know in that circumstance we are going to be doing
more than just blowing our horn. Its not a matter of being lazy. I have
done it before. Maybe you just let off alittle earlier than you planned
on. Maybe you just forgot to look out your side window at night to make
sure you are completley across. It happens.  We all know that some
engines have longer noses than others. It can be decieving when your
5'4" and your seat wont go up and you can barely see over the
console.  Once your in the middle of the road with your massive peice
of equipment I believe you have occupied it.

Name: suzannah
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 15 November 2011

RRJ,

That wasnt the question.. Apparently you never saw it. And if the FRA
said they didnt care if you blew all the way across as long as you were
in the roadway(which I heard personally and they didnt want to get into
nit picking)then why the big deal from the supervisors. The question
was brought forward because you cant start disciplining people on a
"RUMOR" that is started on.....Well thats the way we see it and just
do it!  Once again someone was written up for violating a "RUMOR"
they never heard!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 15 November 2011

sick of it

Why would someone decide to only blow the horn ring the bell halfway
thru a crossing? That sounds pretty lazy. It's always been till the
lead locomotive has passed over blocking the crossing. Just like it's
only 20 seconds to activate the horn where some have thought it was
from the whistle post when running less than MAS. It's a matter of
safety & liability. There are no short cuts.

Name: Busted
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 14 November 2011

YM JAX..the safety concern is the bad neighborhood.Drug busts in the
hotel.Pimps and prostituted.Week-end parties.etc The last straw for the
person who refused to go there was the armed robbery of the hotel and a
patron of the hotel and pistol whipping of the hotel clerk.Numerous
reports of safety concerns were filed with the company with no
results.I understand the problem with the hotels is not just Chicago.It
is system wide and until the employees stand up for themselves the
problem will only continue!

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 November 2011

http://www.insiderexclusive.com/show-content/305-death-on-the-tracks-bnsf-railroads-24-million-dollar-cover-up-part-i.html
Slackie sez" Jury tampering usually starts with the crooked, corrupt
lawyers who pay off the jury to sway them to give huge settlements to
plaintiffs who have lied under oath and guilty of breaking the law. 
This  cost the tax payer hundreds of millions in frivols lawsuits.  I
hope this helps you out."""

Slackie your watchin' comprehension must really suck ---It was the
railroad bribing witnesses---falsifying documents --- videos---etc...

The question would be why this RR corruption doesn't open up ALL old
cases against the railroad.

Name: BOYLES
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years
Posted: 14 November 2011

I SEE ALOT OF MOANING AND GROANING,,BUT,,I HAVE YET SEEN ANYONE LEAVE
THERE JOBS AND HUNT ANOTHER....
 RAILROADS HAVE YOU RIGHT WHERE THEY WANT YOU,!!!!!  IN DEBT..!!!!
IF YOU DO NOT LIKE THE MOTELS,,,ASK FOR A OLD MAINTANCE OF WAY CAMP CAR
TO STAY IN,!!!  I HAVE SEEN INSIDE OF THEM,,,,PRETTY BAD,,,,,
 A TRANSPORTATION MAN WOULD REFUSE TO STAY,!!!!  MOST RAILROADS HAVE
DONE AWAY WITH THEM .....AND,,,MOST STAY IN MOTELS WHERE THE RAILROAD
GETS CUT RATE PRICES,!!! IT IS ALL ABOUT MONEY THE R.R. CAN
SAVE,,,,,,NOT ABOUT WHAT YOU LIKE OR DO NOT LIKE.!!!!
..,,,AND,,,,AGAIN,,,,YOUR UNIONS ARE DOING VERY LITTLE FOR YOU ..
,,CHECK YOUR CONTRACT,,,IT IS NOT AS GOOD AS THE LAST
ONE,,,AND,,ALSO,,YOUR BROTHERS ARE SELLING OFF THERE JOBS TOO...
 SOME YARDS,,,ONLY REMOTE CONTROL.!!!!!..WHERE ARE THE MEN.!!!!
 AND,,,IF YOU DO NOT KEEP UP WITH THINGS,,,,,IT WILL ALL,,,NON UNION
WORKERS SOON,!!!!

Name: BOYLES
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years
Posted: 14 November 2011

GUESS WHAT,,,,,,,FEDEX IS NONE UNION AND DOING WELL.!!!!
NO LOCAL CHAIRMAN TO TELL LIES TO THE MEMBERS...NO BIG UNION BOSS TO
GIVE YOUR OVER RATED DUES TOO.!!!
....PEOPLE,,,WHERE DO ALL YOUR DUES GO.!!!!   DO YOU REALLY
KNOW,,,,OR,,JUST WHERE THE UNION BOSS TELLS YOU THE DUES GO.!!!
...TRUTH BE KNOWN,,,,,,,3/4 OF THE DUES IS UN ACCOUNTED FOR.!!!

HAVE YOU LOOKED AT YOUR CONTRACTS LATELY.????  NOT AS GOOD AS PAST
YEARS..!!!

Name: sick of it
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 14 November 2011

To all concerned,

Does anyone recall if they saw a system notice or system bulletin
published for the interpretation of the horn "J" rule. If you dont
remember there was a big disagreement about what the word "Occupy"
meant in the operating rules book in regards to the instructions of
this rule. A previous employed TM told a few people they would be
written up if they didnt blow all the way across the crossing until the
entire engine was covering the crossing. This TM also said it was an FRA
violations which turned out to be a crock of crap. They use the same
exact "wording" in their rule and couldnt care less if you stop
blowing halfway across or all the way across.  Now that someone has
been written up for this so called "RUMOR RULE" which this person
NEVER HEARD, the general chairman wants to know if anyone ever saw a
notice circulated to all employees that the company expected us to
interpret the word occupy as "blowing your horn until your engine has
completely covered the crossing"!  Disciplining someone for not
hearing the rumor doesnt cut it!

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 November 2011

There were a bunch of idiots running around in the motel in 400 ton
trains @60 mph with no brakes or steering through blind hallways and
the conductor thought he was still at work.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 November 2011

Hey Busted:

If it wasn't Pines, it would just be someone else.

The hotel issue just didn't pop up, it has been going on for sometime
now and it's not just Chicago, it's all over the system. The LCs
should be able to get the crews put up in better lodging.

Frankly, I have never understood why CSX doesn't buy distressed
properties and rehab them to house their crews. They could hire
ex employees to manage them and provide balanced meals for them.

Most terminals are in shitty parts of town and have an abundance of old
abandoned motels near by. They may not be able to go for a stroll
before bed but at least they would have a secure and clean facility to
lay their heads.

It seems to me that this is a no lose situation for CSX...
First, their crews have safe, clean housing, close to their terminals.
Secondly, they get three buffet style homemade meals a day which are
far healthier than Big Macs and KFC. Thirdly, the vans are at the
terminal when the crews arrive. Fourthly, CSX is improving the
neighborhoods they operate in which would likely spur further
redevelopment and increase the tax base. And Fifthly but probably
foremost...not only would CSX save Millions of dollars in 
room, board and cab fares, in the fullness of time they would make
money on their investment. 

Best of all, this could probably all be done with Federal and State
grants!

Now that I said that...I may need to get into the real estate business.
The CSX, NS, UP, BN, KCI, CP, CN, UPS, FEDEX, all airlines and drayage
lines have the same problem and that's just the U.S. and Canada!

Name: Jax YDM
E-mail: 
Employed as: Yard Master, for 20-30 years
Posted: 14 November 2011

What is the safety issue at that hotel?

Name: Busted
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 14 November 2011

My point is Mr Nomo that an Unsafe hotel was being used . The company
knew about it and nothing changed till an employee refused to stay
there.That is a safety concern and all I have seen pines do is bury
pertinant info with blather!!

Name: Jax YDM
E-mail: 
Employed as: Yard Master, for 20-30 years
Posted: 14 November 2011

Mr. Pines, what ever happend to stop look and listen?

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 November 2011

Hey Con 1-10:

Pines has been posting on here since at least 2005 and ONLY on the
Safety thread...which is not so much about safety anymore!

Name: Busted
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 13 November 2011

Ever wonder why pines posts whenever something happens where the
employee gets the better of the company,looks like pines wants to bury
the story of someone refusing a unsafe hotel and winningAm I the only
one who has seen this happening?

Name: BOYLES
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years
Posted: 13 November 2011

SLACK ACTION,,,
 THIS IS THE NEW TYPE OF PEOPLE AMERICA IS PRODUCTING.!!!!
   THEY HAVE NO CLUE WHAT THE DAY IS OR THE TIME,!!!!  THEY TEXT,,,,AND
TALK,,,,,,,THIS IS ABOUT ALL THE KNOWLEDGE OUR YOUTH HAS NOW,,!!!
   I HATE TO SEE THE CHILDREN OF 10 YEARS FROM NOW,!!!!  
THEY WILL BE TOLD WHAT TO DO ,,,BY THE GOVERMENT,!!!  AND,,WHEN TO DO
IT BY THE GOVERMENT.!!!

GOOD WILL BE EVIL,,,,EVIL WILL BE GOOD,!!!!

WHAT HAS HAPPEN TO AMERICA.?????

Name: slack action
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 13 November 2011

Make that frivolous lawsuits...

Name: slack action
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 13 November 2011

Robert, that was a great article you posted. Well, that is if you want
to believe the lies, fabrication of the truth, and pure deception. 
Read this carefully, what you posted was all LIES.  The article was
written by a low life scum of the earth lawyer who main objective is 
to deceive the public about the truth...HMMM no mention of people 
dying  while trying to beat a train, running around gates, driving too
fast for the conditions, talking on the cell phone, texting while
driving, listening to their IPOD, IPAD IPHone or I Screwed up by not
paying attention to my driving,  trying to derail a train.
trespassing... Hey, the list goes on... All should be considered a
terrorist act.      

Jury tampering usually starts with the crooked, corrupt lawyers who pay
off the jury to sway them to give huge settlements to plaintiffs who
have lied under oath and guilty of breaking the law.  This  cost the
tax payer hundreds of millions in frivols lawsuits.  I hope this helps
you out.

Name: kyle
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 13 November 2011

this is to mr pines, i really hope you took physics in high school cuz
if you did then you will know why yer wife got mowed over by a train
which was not the fault of the train crew or the rr company, i am so
sick and tired of peeps like you bitching about one of your loved ones
getting hit by a train when it was thier own damm stupid fault and i am
not a company man but i do stand with the rr company when people do
stupid things on rr property cuz i have seen it more than 1 time. i
rest my case!

Name: Gofigure
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 12 November 2011

Lafayette Engineer refuses to stay at Baymont Cal City Chigago due to
unsafe atmosphere.Was sent home in cab not knowing if they had a job or
not!! Good for them! If more people would grow a pair and shove safety
in CSX's face then maybe we could take back a little control of our
jobs!!!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 12 November 2011

Anyone ever figure out what the cause was on the Monroe, NC collision
back in May?

Apparently the site was down for a couple of days around that time and
no one was able to post much.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 12 November 2011

http://www.insiderexclusive.com/show-content/305-death-on-the-tracks-bnsf-railroads-24-million-dollar-cover-up-part-i.html

Here Slackadorksky ---The law of crossing investigations --You need to
read carefully ---whoops I mean watch carefully and see how CSX and the
others do theirs.

Name: CSX Corporate Rat
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 20-30 years
Posted: 12 November 2011

Brown fires everyone that gets injured PERIOD.

Get a lawyer.    They roll the dice and usually win.  It sends a
message do not report any injury or you are fired.  NS does this to win
the Hairyman. 

CSX is a Gay Friendly Company screw the familys

Name: A "Wife"
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 1-10 years
Posted: 11 November 2011

As a "Wife" to an Employee of Radnor Yard... KARMA!!!! I sure hope
those men keep their jobs because they are going to be BROKE paying all
that child support ( yup, even to you Anna)!!! 
I personally don't think these woman are that stupid not to know what
is going on! All those meetings, training seminars, derailments and
overtime or extra shifts are total BS!!! And if the wives and spouses
know about what is going on and want to tolerate it, well shame on them
and they are just as twisted!!

CSX is not a place for families.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 11 November 2011

much more to come

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 11 November 2011

Off 5 months with injury at work! Every one heard I was going to get
fired but after I told medical I was going to lawyer up corperate is
soooooooooooooo nice. Still have to pass a 100 question rules exam to
mark back up. After that I will mark up as an enginneere soon after
while not running for over 2 years!

Name: John Doe
E-mail: datsomebs@yahoo.com
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 11 November 2011

*****MUST READ*******

IF YOU KNOW OF ANYONE OR YOU HAVE BEEN FIRED FOR NOT PASSING THE
ENGINEERS TRAINING PROGRAM YOU NEED TO READ THIS.  

AN ATLANTA DIVISION CONDUCTOR ON THE A&WP SUB-DIVISION FAILED ENGINE
SCHOOL AND IS BEING ALLOWED TO GO BACK ON HIS CONDUCTOR SENIORITY.
OTHER GUYS THAT WERE IN THE CLASS WITH THIS INDIVIDUAL SAID HE GOT BY
EVERY STOP SIGNAL ON THE SIMS AND COULD NOT EVEN PASS THE SIGNAL TEST
OR ANY OTHER TEST HE WAS GIVEN. I KNOW SEVERAL PEOPLE WHO WERE FIRED
BECAUSE THEY FAILED AND WERE NOT ALLOWED TO COME BACK ON THEIR
CONDUCTOR SENIORITY AS THE LETTER YOU SIGN STATES BEFORE YOU BEGIN
ENGINE CLASSES.  GET THE WORD OUT TO THOSE THIS HAS HAPPENED TO.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 11 November 2011

Boy ain't you on it there company suck Slackie. Why didn't you say
that in 2005 when the post was made? 

The law ---well in Florida the state prosecutor is given an award by
the railroad killer boss. HMMM ---conflict of interest taking an award
from a killer railroad???

State Rep. Mike Weinstein, R - Jacksonville, has been awarded the
Government Award from the Justice Coalition, a Jacksonville-based
victims advocacy group.

"Mike Weinstein has a long, distinguished history of government
service in his city and state. With nearly 25 years of law enforcement,
financial and
management experience, he has devoted much of his leadership and
expertise to the public sector," the coalition said in a newsletter.

Weinstein currently serves as a prosecutor and the Executive Director
for the State Attorney Angela Corey.

“I am honored to be recognized by the Justice Coalition and appreciate
the work they do to serve victims each and every day”, Weinstein said.

The award is being presented by the Michael and Kim Ward Foundation,
which was started by Michael Ward, CSX's chief executive officer.
Weinstein will receive the award at the Ted Hires Legacy Dinner. Hires
was is the founder of the Justice Coalition.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 30+ years
Posted: 10 November 2011

Destroyer

Only thing I see at the moment is PSU Sandusky was a Queer and was
pimping out boys to big donors.  Maybe the high up CSX Gays are pimping
too.   I know for a fact there are there and make advances to keep your
job or get fired.   

Just more facts that Gayward Fockers and Brownshirt Nazis are on CSX
property,  beware!!!!

Name: Destroyer
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 10 November 2011

Do not let your families attend family days!  You do not want those you
love to be familiar with others who work for CSX.  This is across the
board, Supervisors, Co-workers, Saints, Sinners, and Degenerates.  It
serves no purpose to expose your spouse, friends, or children to any of
this.  They will be framed in a newsletter photo to promote a culture
that is not family/human oriented.

Watch the downfall of Penn State closely as an example.  These are
"great men".  They are the leaders of an institution. They were
followed with loyalty and without question. The similarities between
that organization and the one you work for is starkly similar.  Power
has corrupted all.  Doing right is no longer a standard operating
procedure. They would not risk damage to the brand to protect a child. 
They will fuck you, and they will fuck your family.  

Stay away from the happy-ass PC team building if you are not getting
paid to do it.  The less your family knows about the workings of this
institution the better they will be.

Name: Radnor Trash
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 10-20 years
Posted: 07 November 2011

Why is Ted not at the top of this list?
If anyone would put up with Scott's crap he might of made the list. He
is still dreaming that he's the ladies man.
Other than that, I might agree with the list.

Name: boyles
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 07 November 2011

,,,,no one failed the safty test or fra test that were given...
NOW,,WOULD YOU NOT WANT TO BE WITH A MAN THAT FAILED THE TEST,,BUT,,WAS
GIVEN A GOOD GRADE,,,,,
...I SEEN THE FEDERAL FRA INSPECTOR COME AND GIVE OUT SMALL
VIOTATIONS,,,,,A JOKE.!!!!!   AND,,IF WE HAD A BAD
RAIL,,,SOMETIMES,,,THE BOSS WOULD PAINT OVER IT,!!!!  NEVER FIX IT,!!!
  WHAT A JOKE,!!!!!  AND,,,,THIS IS REALY SAD.....CSX,,,,DO THE HIGHER
UPS KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON.???
,,,,I SEEN SO MUCH,,I COULD HAVE WROTE A BEST SELLING BOOK,,,
AND,,,,THE SUPERVISORS MEETINGS,,,,MOST OF THE TIME ARE IN THE LOCAL
PUB.!!!!!.......HOW SAD,,,,,THE RAILROADS HAVE GOTTEN..,,,I
REMEMBER,,WHEN THEY WERE A GOOD PLACE TO WORK,,,,,I COULD NOT WAIT TILL
THE NEXT DAY,,,,,,BUT,,THEN CAME THE NEW BOSSES,,,IF YOU WERE FROM THE
OLD SCHOOL....YOU CAUGHT HELL.!!!
 BUT,,IF YOU GOT IN THE GROOVE,,,YOU MADE IT,!!!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for N/A
Posted: 07 November 2011

Solution to CSX Problems

Cut the Head off the Snake 

In this case 3 Heads
Fire Brown Sanborn and Ward

Name: BOYLES YARD
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 20-30 years
Posted: 07 November 2011

WELL,  I HAVE READ ALOT OF POST ,,,I LIKE THEM ALL AND ABOUT 99.9% ARE
CORRECT...
 NEW HIRES SAVE THE CSX MONEY,,,BUT,,IN THE LONG RUN,,,IT TAKES LONGER
TO GET A NEW MAN IN THE GROOVE.!!! AND,,,,THE COMPANY IS MAKING THE NEW
HIRE IN THERE VISION,!!! NOT A GOOD MOVE,,AS MANY OF THE
SUPERVISORS,,ARE NOW RIGHT OUT OF COLLEGE.!!!!,,WHICH,,SOMETIMES
,,WELL,,MOST OF THE TIME IS BAD.!!!
 IN BOYLES YARD,,,TRAINS ARE SITTING IDLE,,DOG LAWING IN THE YARD,,,
REMOTE CONTROL ENGINES ARE DERAILING....REPORT SAFTY CONDITIONS,,,,,YOU
GET A SLAP ON THE HAND.....CSX,,,,DOES NOT CARE ABOUT YOU,!!!!  
 I WENT TO A MEETING ONCE IN ATLANTA,,,,,THE FIRST STOP ,,THE EMPLOYES
WERE TOLD,,TO MEET IN THE LOUNGE,!!!   YES,,,THE LOUNGE.!!
 
,,,,DRUG PROGRAMS,,,,DRINKING PROGRAMS,,,,NEED TO START WITH UPPER
LEVELS ,,,,THAT IS WHERE THE ABUSE IS,,,,........
...IT IS SAD HOW CSX HAS BROUGHT DOWN MORALS......BUT,,AT THE SAME
TIME,,THEY DO PAY MY BILLS AND MONEY IN THE BANK.!!!
  AND,,TRANSPORTATION DEPT......YOUR UNION HAS SOLD YOU OUT,!!!!!

Name: Re: Nashville
E-mail: 
Employed as: Crew Dispatcher, for 10-20 years
Posted: 06 November 2011

Nashville
If anyone that made it to "Family Day" could have noticed who is who.
You had married employees that did not bring their spouse, employees
that did bring their spouses and limited them on conversations with
fellow employees, of course the glares from the ones that have had
relations with one another. 
There needs to be tighter restrictions against the "Power Houses"
that are ruining families and the companies name.
Now let's start with that list.

1. Ted (swinger)
2. John (watch out for your wives, girlfriends and daughters)
3. Jeremy (better get tested when your done with him)
4. Mike (old school)

Name: L&N WORKER
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 20-30 years
Posted: 06 November 2011

SIR,
 I STARTED WITH THE OLD...L&N RAILROAD,,,,OVER THE YEARS IT CHANGED TO
CSX.......FROM 1983--TILL MY RETIREMENT 2000,,,I WAS HARRASSED BY
OFFICALS...CSX.....IF YOU WERE A OLD L&N,,YOU MEANT
NOTHING...BUT,,NOW,,NOT ALL OFFICALS WERE LIKE THIS,,JUST SOME,,,
 MY BOSS WAS A SCL MAN,,,,,I REPORTED BROKE RAILS,,UNSAFE CONDITIONS,, 
THIS MEANT NOTHING,,,,I WOULD MAKE COPYS OF THIS ,,,I WAS ON SAFTY
COMM,,,,88% OF MY FINDS,,,NEVER GOT REPAIRED...THROWED IN TRASH
CAN.....I HAD NO ONE TO GO TO,,,YOU NEVER KNEW WHO WAS NOT YOUR
FRIEND...
 AND,,FRA TEST FOR EMPLOYEES,,,,,WELL,,NO ONE EVER FAILED,,,,IF YOU
FAILED,,WHICH ALOT DID,,,BY THE END OF DAY,,,YOU GOT A PASSING
GRADE...IS THIS SAFE......?????
Claims....legal clams always denined.!!!  M.OF W UNION A JOKE.!!!!!
 CSX,,,,HAS ALOT OF NON UNION RAIL WORKERS...BUT,,,THEY
SAID,,,THEY,,,CSX,,HAS STANDARDS OF HONOR....
THANK YOU L&N FOR ALOT OF GOOD YEARS,!!!!!!

Name: never safe
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 1-10 years
Posted: 06 November 2011

HEY Other non-employee

Not sure where you got the idea that csx would not make you stay in an
unsafe hotel. A lafayette engineer refused last night to stay at the
baymont last night because they were scared for their safety. On the
25th the hotel clerk was pistol whipped and robbed by 3 gunmen. It was
in the newspapers.  GUESS WHAT!!!  They pulled this engineer out of
service and put them in a van home!   So lets just wait and see if the
union comes to this persons rescue!   I hope this engineers screams to
the roof tops.    Like to see this on the front page of the csx
gateway!

Name: slack action
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 05 November 2011

Professor Pines:   You are now acting like you know the legal system
when you do not even understand the LAWS.  To help you out on one of
your dilemmas. YES, it is legal to reconstruct a crime scene on private
property. It is done every day. I hope that helps you out.  But you are
doing great asking questions, that is the only way you are going to
learn. You need to focus your line of questions on simple things, so
you can understand the answer. Just a little hint, don't tread in
waters when you don't know how to swim.

Remember: 100% of ALL railroad crossing accidents ARE preventable.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 03 November 2011

http://decisions.courts.state.ny.us/ad3/Decisions/2011/510888.pdf
So 6 years this low life CSX dragged this family through the mud. My
question is why not a class action against the Supreme Courts for
ALWAYS taking railroad cases KNOWINGLY knowing the cases are BS?

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 April 2005

http://www.nynewsday.com/news/local/wire/newyork/ny-bc-ny-brf--train-pickupf0407apr07,0,5316578.story?coll=ny-region-apnewyork

One of the articles says the state collision reconstruction team was
sent in. Is that LEGAL on private property? So the jury tampering
starts right there to start covering the city, county, states, and
railroads butts. How can they reconstruct without knowing the real
train data which THEY don't download OR without the drivers? This
same parallel road running by the tracks collision has been
reconstructed 1000s of times.

Did CSX pay Joseph Budik to increase the trains from 16 to 56 in 2001
or if they could drive like idiots at 50 mph not even blowing the
train horns for the "private" road? Did they ask him if it was all
right to install one of the 1000s of sets of crossing lights they have
stolen or have just sitting doing nothing on dead tracks on his road?

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 03 November 2011

CSX does it too? How bout ya Matt Rose ---So you lied when you told me
the railroad causing deaths/injuries bothered you """very
much"""???

http://www.insiderexclusive.com/show-content/305-death-on-the-tracks-bnsf-railroads-24-million-dollar-cover-up-part-i.html

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 03 November 2011

CSX, will not force any employee to stay in unsafe lodging.

Now are ya ready to refuse lodging? That is the question!

Get a pair and do it, many will thank you. 

That is how the train crews got out of the caboose. Hell they were
humping sleeping crews. Oh I have a lot more on this topic.

Name: Jeff Middleton
E-mail: Iluvsuckingcox.com
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 03 November 2011

....my ex-wife hates me, my kids hate me, everyone hates me. The only
pleasure I get in life anymore is firing employees in radnor yard
especially if they are black. Pete Burris can't do anything about me
because he is scared of me. The unions can't do anything with me
because.....well because the unions can't do anything about anything
anymore. So fair warning....if you want to keep your job with Csx, stay
away from my yard or me and my big ass buffalo head will come down on
you whenever and however I want......especially if you are black.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 02 November 2011

Hey Pines

Maybe the crew didnt know what they were realy seeing in front of them
because they were tired from lack of sleep from being kept up all night
by the noise in their hotel.  You know.. the moaning and groaning from
the hookers and the gun shots from the crack heads!

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 02 November 2011

Do the math on this (train was going 73.3 feet per second) and tell me
why all railroaders and the state and Feds in charge of safety don't
turn themselves in for MURDER!!

http://multimedia.dailyreportonline.com/2011/09/csx-transportation-inc-v-smith/
Defendants placed
significant reliance in their motion on Lacona's deposition
testimony that he could not see decedent's truck until it moved
toward the tracks when the train was 100 to 150 feet from it and,
thus, defendants contend that the accident was unavoidable and
sounding the train's whistle would not have helped. The critical
facts regarding the distance and the movement of decedent's truck
were exclusively within the knowledge of the movants, which
generally is not a proper basis for summary judgment (see Tenkate
v Moore, 274 AD2d 934, 935 [2000]; Zwart v Town of Wallkill, 192
AD2d at 833-834). However, even if this proof satisfied
defendants' prima facie burden, plaintiff produced evidence
sufficient under the reduced burden to raise a triable issue. In
response to questioning at his deposition about the events
immediately before the accident, Lacona acknowledged seeing
decedent's truck, wondering if he was going to stop, saying twice
to the conductor, "Is he going to stop?", and hearing the
conductor then respond, "I don't know." All of this occurred
before impact. Although circumstantial, this testimony is
sufficient to raise an issue as to whether Lacona observed
decedent farther away than his estimate of 100 to 150 feet and,
thus, whether there was time to warn decedent by sounding the
-3- 510888
train's whistle.
There is also ample proof to raise a factual issue
regarding plaintiff's contention that vegetation in CSX's rightof-
way obstructed decedent's sight distance contributing to the
accident. Initially, we note that we are unpersuaded by
defendants' assertion that, under the facts alleged by plaintiff,
this issue is necessarily preempted by federal law (see 49 USC
§ 20106; Shanklin v Norfolk S. Ry. Co., 369 F3d 978, 985-988 [6th
Cir 2004]; Peters v Union Pac. R.R. Co., 455 F Supp 2d 998, 1003-
1004 [WD Mo 2006]; see also William E. Kenworthy, Transportation
Safety and Insurance Law § 3.04 [4] [c]; cf. Russell v Fusco, 267
AD2d 738, 739 [1999] [obstruction caused by overgrown vegetation
considered as part of common-law negligence action arising from
collision between vehicle and train]). Plaintiff stated in her
affidavit that CSX had not cut the vegetation in its right-of-way
since the late 1990s, she described growth in the right-of-way,
and opined that "sight distance was . . . 100 to 150 [feet] when
stopped at a point where the train would not strike your
vehicle." In addition, a police report in the record lists
limited sight distance as a cause of the accident, and Lacona
answered in the affirmative when asked at his deposition whether
vegetation blocked his view of decedent's truck. There are
triable issues and, accordingly, defendants' motion should not
have been granted (see Russell v Fusco, 267 AD2d at 739-740; E.
Mower & Son v Consol. Rail Corp., 249 AD2d 809, 810-811 [1998]).
Peters, J.P., Spain, Stein and Egan Jr., JJ., concur.
ORDERED that the order is reversed, on the law, with costs,
and motion denied.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 02 November 2011

I don't think the Hotel issue just appeared...I'll bet it been going
on for quit a while.

Who has been putting the nix on moving? One of the LCs or is it an
official at Barr of the Division office? Some one has a financial
interest in the property or is getting "finders fee" for directing
traffic to the Hotel!

Name: advice
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 20-30 years
Posted: 02 November 2011

Tom,

Im not suggesting that you do anything that could get yourself hurt,
but pictures of the prostitues and pimps in the hallways as well as the
drug pushers is great evidence in the event that you or any of the other
crew members in the hotel get hurt.  One scratch or one hair on your
head pulled out and it will be welcome to hell lawsuit. The company has
to be aware of the issues at this hotel. As for the union having the
responsiblity to make sure this is taken care of, thats totally untrue
now. It became the sole responsibility of csx to take control of this
situation and correct it. They claim that they are a company that
prides themselves on high moral standards and good ethical values. If
so then you would think they wouldnt treat their employees like they
are "blue collar" trash that do not deserve to stay in accommodations
that you all know CEO Ward would not stay in himself. Frankly I would
find it rather insulting and a slap in the face. Yes, there are a few
handful of employees who might have "not so nice" values, but the
majority come from decent families with decent values and do not
desreve to be put up in a place full prostitues and thugs.  I have to
wonder if you are actually getting a good nights sleep knowing that
these people are possibly standing in your hallway or even outside your
door at any time.  If they are in the lobby when you check in, then the
police should be called. Tne hotel manager should be having these
people removed. If it has come down to the point where the clerks are
afraid to take action in fear of retaliation then your in a more
serious situation that any one of you know.  I suggest you get together
with your fellow crew members and talk to a  lawyer. You might need your
job but it is not worth getting seriously hurt or even killed by a thug.

Name: LC
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 02 November 2011

TOM:

No one will be staying in this motel for very long. It is not as simple
as it should be to find motels any where.  This motel has been a problem
from the first day we were placed there.  Some areas wanted this motel
both from the carrier and unions.  Some of us like me knew this was not
as safe as it could be and were against it.  While some union officers
fought to be placed in this motel, but hopefully anoth motel can be
found quickly.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 01 November 2011

tom

I don't know what the problem is all that needs to be done is get the
LC's involved. That means go to the union meetings in force not one
person complaining but get a group together. We moved lodging serveral
times when it became known drugs & prostitution were at the hotels.
When police started raiding these places. It's the unions
responsibility just like CSX. In fact it's the LC's who go around
looking ar an inspecting places for suitable lodging. Then they bring
it to CSX and corporate lodging tries to get a contract. I'm sure
within 30 minutes or 30 miles from the terminal they can find
accomidations.

Name: Tom
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 31 October 2011

Jax YDM

True, people get killed in a lot of different locations.  

The difference being is that CSX didn't knowingly put OJ's wife in an
unsafe environment, then force her to stay there after they knew it was
unsafe, expecially when other options were available.  For God Sakes,
this is Chicago after all, hotels are all over the place.   

For the past several years, multiple crews have filed complaints with
CSX after watching the police make arrest for the illegal activity
that's going on inside the hotel.  Complaints have been filed about
the weekend party guest getting into fights, and weapons being drawn as
crews are trying to get to their rooms.  Guns are being fired in and
around the hotel on a regular basis.  The area is so unsafe that even
the neighbors have bars on their windows and doors.  

What makes my life worth any less than yours, in that I should risk
being hurt, shot at, or killed in the hotel that CSX choses to put me
in because it cost less than a safer hotel on the other side of town
where some of the other crews stay?    

CSX is always preaching SAFETY FIRST.  What about putting the safety of
their crews first?  We work for a fortune 500 company.  Haven't the
lawyers explained what liability is to whoever makes the decisions on
where the crews stay?

Name: Jax YDM
E-mail: 
Employed as: Yard Master, for 20-30 years
Posted: 31 October 2011

Tom: People are robbed and killed everywhere. OJ's wife as killed in a
super rich neighborhood. Keep your door shut and get your rest.

Name: tom
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 31 October 2011

Masked gunmen rob Cal City hotel
If you haven't heard yet, on 10/25/11 the hotel that the CSX crews
stay in, in Chicago was robbed while there were CSX crews in the hotel.
Several Local Chairman have asked CSX to give the crews an additional
option of places to stay, as they've expressed a concern for their
safety. Read the details below.

By Lauri Harvey Keagle lauri.keagle@nwi.com, (219) 852-4311 | Posted:
Tuesday, October 25, 2011 6:45 pm 

CALUMET CITY | Four men wearing white masks and black hoodies robbed a
Calumet City hotel clerk and patron at gunpoint early Tuesday, police
said.

According to Assistant Police Chief Dan Zorzi, at 12:25 a.m., the
offenders entered the Baymont Inn, 510 E. End Ave., near the
intersection of Sibley Boulevard and the Bishop Ford Freeway.

One of the men allegedly hit the hotel clerk with a weapon, causing
minor injuries.

Zorzi said the men fled on foot with an undetermined amount of cash and
cellphones. Police have not made any arrests in the robbery.

Anyone with any information about the crime is asked to call Calumet
City police at (708) 868-2500.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: Btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 30 October 2011

So Tinkerbell and Peter Pan drive the train if the engineer doesn't
there Slackley?

http://multimedia.dailyreportonline.com/2011/09/csx-transportation-inc-v-smith/

Oh I get it ---CSX employee gets hurt they just say the employee was
fired and call in the Supreme court safe house. Wow that must be a good
place to be. Maybe the employees should run to the Hubbard House for
protection.

The ex Mikey gives a Million for a SAFE house I think is what they call
it. What would a million buy for safety equipment, lighting, crossing
gates, etc...?


The mission of Hubbard House is Every Relationship Violence-Free. Our
priorities include providing safety for victims and their children,
empowering victims, and social change through education and advocacy.

Hubbard House gets $1 million gift: 'You just can't help but think
what that can do'

Money from the longtime backer will be distributed to the center over 5
years.
Hubbard House, the domestic violence center serving Duval and Baker
counties, has received a $1 million gift from a longtime supporter who
brought a service dog to visit children there more than 10 years ago
and never really left.
The gift, announced Tuesday, came from Terry Ward of Jacksonville, a
member of the center's board of directors who "cares deeply" about
the victims of domestic violence, particularly children, CEO Ellen
Siler said.
"Once she saw the place, once she saw the needs, that was it," Siler
said in an interview.
Hubbard House has received sizable gifts in the past - including a $2.5
million gift from Ward and her former husband, CSX Chairman Michael
Ward, in 2006 - but Siler reacts to each one as if it were the first.
"I start crying. I get pretty emotional," she said. "It doesn't
matter if you've had it happen before ... they get the tears going.
You just can't help but think what that [amount of money] can do."
Terry Ward could not be reached for comment on Tuesday, but in a
statement issued through Hubbard House she said was proud to support
the cause and Hubbard House.
"I have a real special place in my heart for victims of domestic
violence and I know that it touches individuals from all levels of
life," she said. "I am proud to make this donation in recognition of
Domestic Violence Awareness Month, and in support of Hubbard House and
its staff, who continue to work tirelessly to provide much-needed
services to our community."
Siler said she was stunned not only by the size of the gift, but also
by its long-term commitment.
The money will be distributed over five years. Each year, $100,000 will
be dedicated to the organization's reserves and another $100,000 to its
operating fund, with the focus on services for children.
Many donors prefer to give a lump sum and see their money used
immediately, she said.
"Knowing we can depend on these funds for the next five years is a
blessing," Siler said.
Also unusual is the reserve fund designation. Large gifts are typically
designated for capital purchases, endowment or operating needs. But
Ward's $1 million gift is the first pledge that included money for
reserves.
With demand for its services up 13 percent since 2008, with revenue
sources not keeping pace and reserves depleted, Hubbard House will be
able to exhale thanks to that designation.
"It's scary as a nonprofit," Siler said. "I have been in nonprofits
40 years and I have never had a donor give to reserves ... to realize
that this is an organization that needs to have reserves. It's
emergency money."
As supporters go, Ward has been a godsend, dedicated to the cause on
the board and in the community.
"She cares deeply about children. She cares deeply about maintaining
commitment to the issue," Siler said. "It means a lot."
Founded in 1976, Hubbard House has sheltered over 28,000 victims of
domestic violence and their children, and helped more than three times
that number through outreach services.
Last year alone, the center provided emergency shelter, outreach
services and batterers' intervention services to 6,044 individuals, a
news release says.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 October 2011

Kyle never stated once he was pro-CSX. That's just your clouded thought
patterns getting the best of you. All he stated was make the best of
what you have to work with if not it'll be a bad experience. Just like
someone on another site complaining it was CSX fault the FRA is forcing
manditory rest days. Get real anyone whose been out here for a while
knows CSX would love nothing more than to glue a person to the job
never letting them get days off. The attendance policies are proof.
Some people just have to complain. lol

Name: sick of it
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 27 October 2011

Kyle,  

Yeah you need rules in everything you do..driving your car, paying your
taxes, joining a club... but most companies dont have rules set in place
to deliberately use against you as a whipping tool. Take csx for
example. They started out with this so called o-testing procedure as a
learning tool for the employee. GO out and observe your work force. If
you see someone doing something wrong you approach them and ask why and
explain to them the proper procedure If they did it again then you had
good reason to give them a bad mark.  Then they started getting greedy
wanting a turn over rate, replacing the 100% employees with the 80% to
put more money in the big wigs pockets. Then they want to recoup the
cost of the training at that school. Lost their ability to charge
people to go to their school cause they got sued for false promises in
the past. Whos fault is that!  So now they have turned just about every
rule you break into a serious crime and just a few bad marks and your on
the street. Its a serious crime if you dont stretch your stupid cut
after you couple it together even though you stood right there and
watched your slack roll out tight and your pins drop. You been
railroading 20 years and you know the shit is together so out of habit
you just go make your next move.  Too bad dumb ass.... WE GOT YOU! 
Dont matter what you say, you are getting a write up. The o-test
program started out as a honorable idea and now its turned into a
shipping tool for a turn over rate. Its one thing to have rules, its
another to have so damb many that someone is going to get busted
everyday because there are to damb many to remember. Another joke is
the stupid parties they have for going injury free for a year. They
think busting people and putting them on the street is keeping them
injury free? HA! HA!  Think writing someone up for not having their
sideshield on their glasses helped them get that award. HELL NO. I
havent seen anyone lose an eyeball yet in 16 years because he was
missing one of his side shields! Just another petty ass mark on another
poor saps record getting him closer to be replaced by that 80% guy!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 27 October 2011

Kyle,

Stop being a slow learner. Praise your employer, why ? because it makes
sense.

You can fight the system, be a man and stand alone, if ya want and the
RR will be drawn to stupid.

Listen-- not to me, but those that have retired and really know. Sit
down Shut up take the call and have a really nice life with a little
cash at the end.

If ya want real work, daylight hours, weekends off, go find one. P&G is
looking for you. May bee/ kinda sorta.

Name: slack action
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 26 October 2011

Poor old Pines: He does not understand how a 3 for 1 split works.  He
thinks the engr drives a train, ( big hint, no steering wheel).  He
does not understand how the braking system on a train works.  He thinks
financial information has to do with SAFETY...

Just how clueless can you get?  I guess I really feel sorry for him. 
It must be tough to face simple challenges on a day to day basis.  I
hope he does not drive a car with his condition.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 26 October 2011

Kyle

I've sort of backed off from those complaining about the attendance
policy. I know I wouldn't like it if I was still out there working.
The attendance policies in effect a couple years ago were bad enough.
This guy was complaining for not wearing the proper equipment like
safety glasses ect...Even when I was working not wearing safety glasses
or hearing protection was like wearing a neon sign on your forehead
saying "Bust me, I'm Stupid". I knew Bob Frulla when he was a
trainmaster around the mid '90s. I think Richmond was his first job as
an official. He was easy going good person to work for back then. His
nickname back then was "Mr Potato Head". He's definitely changed.
Unfortunately under Ingram that's what happened.

Name: KYLE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 26 October 2011

To RRJ you hit it 100% correct, There are going to be rules to follow no
matter if you are in school, military,work place, and yes i know of a
lot of colledge grads who will jump at the chance to work for a class 1
rr, The only thing that has always irked me on the rr is some of these
guys who think the rr can not operate without them and most peeps like
that are also big suck asses to management, Thats 1 thing i will not do
is suck ass to a tm or rfe, Ie no one, i just do what i am told even
though at times i don,t like it and that rr pay check always looks good
to me, I am not pro company, but a old hogger told me when i hired on
that without disipline you will have total cahos.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 25 October 2011

Where else can a person make a lot of money for basically doing nothing?
It is time consuming. Mostly especially on road jobs you sit and ride.
Do your job correctly then who cares if officials are hiding in the
bushes. That's funny advicing people not to work for CSX. In reality
there are thousands applying waiting for that chance. A lot of them
have been stuck at low paying jobs or unemployed. I guess you didn't
starve enough before getting hired. Why is it some people thrive out
there but others don't?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 25 October 2011

CSX is a Piss Poor Company to work for and I would NEVER EVER recommend
anyone young or old Applying for a job with this company.From day 1
they try to Fire you and Hide in the weeds to Pray that they can catch
you doing something wrong or at least Hope they Can LIE about something
you did to get an O-test failure.The Huntington Division has to be the
Worst division for Employees as Bobby Jack Frulla has a Hardon to Fire
everyone that has on o-test failure.He and his Henchmen on the system
could give a shit less about you,your safety or you feeding your
family.He just wants to Fire EVERYONE I dont care if you have NEVER
marked off,never had a Miscall,worked Everyday of the year even
Holidays,Never had any Previous negative work history or attendance
issues.The first time you get busted without your Studded Rubbers in
the snow or Without your safety glasses your on the road to Termination
in Bob Frullas mind he is out to Fire every employee he has.People like
him are the ones who will Drive this company and companies like it into
the Ground.No matter if how Stellar of an employee you are your still
the Shitstain under the Officials and Bigwhigs shoesoles.You can never
be a good enough employee and work hard enough for this company your
just a # and if they dont like you for any reason there are schmucks
waiting in line to replace you.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 24 October 2011

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQ8imPmQ0js

Financial information has everything to do with safety ---the X factor
is directly proportional to what these sleeze bags pay themselves for
nothing. Either fix the problems sleeze bags or quit talking your LIP
SERVICE SAFETY CRAP which is fraud and MURDER since they know the
problems and do nothing.

Name: ?
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 1-10 years
Posted: 24 October 2011

Pines,

Wrong forum!  This is for safety issues not financial info...once again
your drawing attention away from what is important. Thats a csx
supervisor tactic!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 24 October 2011

Hey Robert:

The stock that all the senior executives and even most mid and lower
lever executives own as well as other insiders, Directors, family
members and other entities owning 5% of the stock is "Lettered".
Meaning the SEC must give permission for them to sell their stock.
The sale must be in accordance with Rule 144.

You can google Rule 144 for the details.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 24 October 2011

suzannah

The ERAD, black box, GPS ect...they've been out there for a while. I
remember getting calls from the RFE that the erad showed I was using my
independent brake while in full throttle. I always told him who in their
right mind would do that. lol. The thing was I did do it, it was an old
trick while trying to make an incline grade when it was raining to stop
the wheels slipping put 5-7lb of independent hold it for a few seconds
till you got traction back. I could tell by his voice he knew what I
did but would tell me the erad isn't always accurite. lol. The black
box when they use to download it I was never worried about myself more
concerned for others seeing it held info for up to 72 hours. I never
cared if I was on a declining grade and got over the speed limit as
long as I got it under control. The rule is it's not speeding if it
shows action was taken to correct it. Speeding would be if someone went
5 miles without taking action then it's intentional. I don't think
they screw with oldheads to much because they know their time is short.
Over the past year CSX did give two people a choice they were oldhead
screw ups they always were retire when it's time or will take action.
Both left. lol. That's not to say oldheads are immune from the
harassment. The example in an earlier post of the conductor who got 15
days for multi-tasking has around 35 years he still has 4-5 years till
retirement age. No easy answers.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 24 October 2011

Hey Robert:

Hypothetically...you or I buy 1000 shares of stock for $24,000 or
$24.00 each (cost basis). The price of the stock increases over time to
$75.00 a share and the BoD declares a 3:1 split. You now have 3,000
shares each worth $25.00 and your cost basis is $8.00 a share.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@fidnet.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 24 October 2011

"Insiders might sell their shares for any number of reasons, but they
buy them for only one: they think the price will rise"
- Peter Lynch ==>
http://www.secform4.com/insider-trading/1165185.htm
http://www.secform4.com/insider-trading/277948-2.htm

So if Ward knows the prices aren't going up and sells $12 million this
month ---WHY NOT ALL SHAREHOLDERS?

Still don't understand the 3 for 1 split ---Couldn't you have bought
the railroad the day before and then sold the next day and tripled your
investment. And did the brass adjust their MANY at a boy ridiculous
bonuses to come out at the original price? My hickerbilly calculus
tutor doesn't think so.

Name: syuzannah
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 23 October 2011

STAR,

I believe you have missed the entire point of pissed and Toms post.
Especially pissed. Your right,it doesnt matter were they use their
testing devices if you are doing your job properly, but that was not
the issue here. Again, it was stated that some company officials were
refusing to use a particular device because it was too obvious and I
believe stated that only an idiot would miss it. Even an idiot(no pun
intended) can figure out what what the intent is here. Now, you say you
are a safety cordinator??? Would it not be better to use this so called
get off easy device if only an idiot would miss it? I would think that
an idiot would be just the person you would be trying to weed out of
your industry?  Apparently not. So go ahead and use the device that
maybe some of your best but tired and overworked employees might miss
because it is so well hidden?

RRJ,
No hope for the future. The erad, little black box, positive train
control will end up costing everyone a perfect record in the future.
The order out now is to download all engines that go into emergency.
How far back can they go in your trip to see what you have been doing?
Guess we will have to wait and see. Watch out perfect engine running
old heads. Your time is coming!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 23 October 2011

NoMo

There have been so many changes in the past two years it would be
difficult to fathom. lol.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 23 October 2011

Hey RRJ:

I always contacted the EIC...I guess I should have got fired:)

I always wrote down the instructions and time for MY log and then
discussed then with the Engineer.

I guess it's all in how the Division Super. wants to do things. Never
had a RFE or TM say anything to me or the Engineer that I knew of. 

I did get a O-test failure once for not announcing the train I was on
pulled ahead to the light in the siding after sitting behind one for an
hour...didn't feel to bad though because he failed the Con
that pulled in behind us too.

I never worried too much about those o-test failures, just took it as
part of the job...everybody gets them. The supervisors have to play
that game too. The one I mentioned was by the relief LOR TM. He was/is
the type that would come in and write the men up to keep from having to
write up his own men...that's why he was about a popular as a turd in a
punch bowl down here!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 23 October 2011

NoMo

Unless they've changed the rule in the last two years the engineer is
the only one who get could contact the employee in charge to get
permission by a 707. Before I left the road the EIC was also asking for
both train number & who they were speaking to. I guess if the TM or RFE
were listening they could bust the crew for lying if it wasn't the
engineer. Why I haven't a clue? The only answer I got from the RFE was
CSX wanted to make sure the engineer had a clear understanding. Which
never made sense the frigging radio is right above their head or on the
left side blaring in their ear. I'm sure somewhere an engineer had the
reciever turned down way to low and screwed it up. CSX loves creating
new rules instead of looking at it as an isolated incident just change
the rule. Everything else the conductor could handle calling signals
talking to the TD & YM ect...

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 23 October 2011

Hey RRJ:

I always thought it was the Conductor's responsibility to handle the
radio communications. I always did...has that changed?

I know several of the Engineers would handle the radio rather than let
some of the "Conductors", you know the ones I'm talking about, sound
stupid.

I guess nothing really changes except the names and faces!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 23 October 2011

In Stars defense she's right. It's a lot tougher today on the job then
it has been in 80 years. Most places can do whatever they want tons of
applicants waiting to take a persons place. I know people vent on this
site that's one of it's functions. In her defense if you're doing
the job correctly why worry if management is watching. Since I retired
most of those who have gotten time in the street or even terminated it
was due to sheer laziness doing short cuts at times not even doing
their job. One example a crew doing a set off then a hand brake test
all seemed to be well done over the RADIO in reality that's all it was
because they pretended to perform the test not actually doing it. They
did this while being observed by a couple TM's. Why would people be so
lazy? I can't explain it. The conductor got time in the street. The
engineer got terminated. On the otherside of the coin CSX seems to be
making up the rules as they go along. A conductor doing a set off a
train on #2 main comes by he tells them their train looks good he gets
15 days in the street for "multi-tasking". This was something we've
done since railroads began it's even simpler these days with radios
compared to when we use to do it by hand signals. In this case it's
easy to put one over on CSX. When approaching a 707 the engineer needs
to contact the employee in charge just stop the train this would be a
case of multi-tasking by operating the train and talking on the radio.
Stop at the closest location not blocking any crossings don't move if
it's a dead spot contact the TD leave it in their hands. If one stops
to far away they could be charged for delaying a train. I never
understood this rule when a conductor doing nothing on the otherside of
the cab could contact the EIC. For every move CSX makes there is a
counter move just have to use your head to find it.

Name: Star
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 20-30 years
Posted: 22 October 2011

Tom, I do feel the pain. My company isn't the best either.. LOL... But
our family has just learned to adjust. No one in our family has a
birthday ON their birthday it is always early or late but no less the
birthday,anniversary or graduation it is all in how you spend the time
you do have. And with my company the big heads change so often I don't
spend my time even worrying about how they do their job, someone else
will be doing it next year.  My primary doctor is listed at the patient
first. We all stand in fear of loosing our jobs especially in this day
and time. I just stick my money under my mattress (not the stock
market)  and wait for the day I retire and can spend it like crazy
doing what I want when I do retire.And that is satisfaction enough for
me and my family.In a sense I work for me not the company. Be safe and
be happy. Maybe it will catch on and things will be better one day.

Name: Star
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 20-30 years
Posted: 22 October 2011

Why do you care where the OTD's are set up if you are doing things safe
ALL of the time? So you want to know where that OTD is so you can wipe
your nose and smile for the camera... and do thing by the rules for
that second and three minutes later you texting or on the phone and
MISS the one you don't see... I in no way work for the RR.. But I do
work for a large cooperation as a safety coordinator. I don't announce
to the supervisors when a safety inspection is going to take place. I am
just saying if you keep your nose clean you don't have to worry about
having a bugger on you nose in your next picture. And maybe a few more
hours in that Nazi school wouldn't hurt any of us. Just saying
injuring or killing someone is an awful way to learn a safety. Be safe
my friend stop being so pissed all the time enjoy life. OH and I will
convey your condolences to my brothers (a fellow RRers)wife and family.

Name: tom
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 22 October 2011

Star,

Your brother is right, working for the railroad is a great job, THAT IS
IF..... you don't mind missing your families birthdays, graduations,
holidays.  

Its great if you don't mind looking over your shoulder constantly for
management hiding in the weeds trying to fire you, or management making
false failures on your record.

Its great if you don't mind fighting false failures put on your record
by Avon management, as their trying to get their 15 failures every month
so that they don't get fired by Scott Conners, the new Great Lakes
Superentendent.  

Its great if you don't mind paying $150 a month for UTU
representation, and you can't get hold of your east end union rep,
because he's marked off Union Business for month's at a time.

Its great if you don't mind paying for health insurance that you
can't get off of work to use.  When you do schedule a doctor's
appointment, and you need off, management tells you to use your
personal days or vacation time. After all, that's why "they" gave
you those day.  You didn't earn those days, the company GAVE you those
days for things like this.  

Like many I work with, I enjoy what I do for a living, and I work with
some really great people.  I just hate the unethical company I work
for, and the way they treat the T&E employees.

Name: pissed
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 21 October 2011

Star


Your an ASS!  No just another no nothing who sits on the side lines and
runs their mouths or just another manager who is trying to stir up shit!
 Quit our jobs in this economy! The company knows what kind of shape
this country is in and they will whip and beat, harrass and intimidate
all they want because they know us with kids and a family cant afford
to quit our jobs. So you think its just whinning!  How about this.. The
officials in the gl divison were giving operational testing devices to
use in the switches to simulate an improperly lined switches. The tms
and rfs at big 4 yard in avon decided not to use one of them because
they thought it was TOO OBVIOUS and only and idiot would not see it.
TOO OBVIOUS!! That right there shows you they dont give a rats ass
about safety, they just want to bust somebodies ass and get a pat on
their backs for getting a mandatory failure required by the division
manager. TOO OBVIOUS! They cant deny they said it either because the
safety committee members who were doing a safety blitz in the yard told
everyone that is what they were told to tell us and then they showed us
which device they were going to use. You think thats right!  The
company gives it to them to use and they toss it out because they think
there is no way they will bust somebody with it. You havent got a clue
what goes on out here. Tell you what.. go to the nazi conductor school
and get a job out here. Then you might have a right to run your mouth.
But until then you need to shut the hell up or put something meaningful
on here that might help protect us from the abuse!

Name: Star
E-mail: starden54@hotmail.com
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 20-30 years
Posted: 20 October 2011

My brother worked for the RR and really honestly loved his job. I fondly
remember his stories of the beautiful fall trees this time of year.....
Although everyday wasn't perfect...He never brought his work home
unless it was positive. Until that tragic day his life was taken on the
job he worked the hardest on and gave a good piece of his love and
devotion to came to an end. I see posts from employees moaning and
crying about working on the RR and it sickens me.. If you don't like
your job no one is forcing you to stay. Enjoy the trees along your
travels and learn to thank God that you are still here to have a
job,because you never know when your time will come... Let the last
words you speak be positive and caring. Be safe and enjoy your
experience and maybe just maybe you will have that house in woods and a
loving wife,children and grand children to retire to. And maybe if
everyone is positive and happy the work place will be safe for
everyone. If you are distracted with all the moaning and groaning you
don't have a good attitude you just might miss something important you
need to see or hear..

Name: kyle
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 16 October 2011

I know 1 thing, these wall street protests have these rich neo-cons
shaking in thier shoes right now,ie the GOP & THE COCK BROTHS, it was
you dummy voters who are to blame for this too when all of you voted
for ronnie RAYGUN in the 1980,s, that prick even put a tax on rr
unemployment bennys and you dumb asses voted for him 2 times, guess all
that religion talk and gun things got to ya, we are in the problems
today because of him and his de-regulation ,, i have nothing bad to say
about captisim its a good system but these rich pricks took advantage of
it, they made themselfs rich at the expence of the middle class & poor,
greedy dogs just like the rr barons of yrs ago, ya man read some
history books you dumb asses cuz yher cutting your own wrists by voting
for these neo-con teabagger loons who should be in mental asylums with
lots of happy medication, ha ha i am sure ya get the drift, ha ha the
neo-cons said in 2010 they were all about making new jobs, ha ha LMFAO
and you dumb sheep fox listernes fell for that lie hook,line & sinker!
YEA YOU DID!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 October 2011

We've had this discussion several times...if you're curious about
the "Occupy Wall St." movement. This has a lot to do with it!

  http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44893005/ns/business-forbes_com/

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 October 2011

http://www.fra.dot.gov/rrs/pages/fp_2305.shtml Let the states do it the
FRA says. The states are like do what.

I don't find anything about the FRA safety meeting on the 11th NOMO 
Now on the 10th the FRA handed out $133 million to the railroads for
TIME sake for a private owner which is as un-CONSTITUTIONAL as it gets.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 October 2011

Good morning Robert:

You will need to re-post the second link, there is an error and the
article "can not be found",

I've ask for a report from attendees...as of now no one has reported
in which makes me think no one went or more likely were too afraid to
go. I'll guarantee the suits were there...probably took the FRA out to
lunch at someplace like the Chicago Yacht Club!

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 October 2011

http://www.fra.dot.gov/downloads/safety/SA201102.pdf

Well NOMO you got the dog and pony show right. What does the phonie FRA
really say here? If you don't have eyes in the back of your head don't
go in between two heavy objects I read it.

OH ---They put it all legal like to keep the RRs liability down.

Ain't the FRA head clown like a ex-RR  union guy?

http://www.fra.dot.gov/rrs/pages/fp_2305. The FRA is useless ---Read
all this in the railroads pocket BS.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 13 October 2011

Senior Trainmaster Patrick York of the Huntington Division on the
Kanawha Sub. Is a worthless, spineless, gutless, beefy eyed, with
little man syndrome. He will screw you anyway possibile.  Watch out
crews he will go all out for a O Test failure even when you do nothing
wrong.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 11 October 2011

Today being the 11TH it was the FRA "Town Hall" meeting...hello
Chicagoland, come in. Anyone make the FRA Dog and Pony show? Do tell if
you did, enquiring minds want to know!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 11 October 2011

About the clerk being hacked with fake e-mails: NO COMPUTER IS HACK
PROOF. HOWEVER, A MORE LIKELY SCENARIO IS THAT SOMEONE GUESSED OR
OBSERVED YOUR PASSWORD AND UTILIZED IT FROM EITHER A WORK COMPUTER OR A
HOME COMPUTER THAT HAS ACCESS TO CSX. GENERALLY SPEAKING, A NON OBVIOUS
PASSWORD WITH A GREATER MIX OF LETTERS AND NUMBERS IS A WISE CHOICE. IF
YOUR NAME IS KERMIT, AND YOUR WIFE'S NAME IS PIGGY, TRYING KERMIT1
WOULD BE A GOOD GUESS, WITH PIGGY1 AS THE NEXT CHOICE.THIS CAN BE MADE
MORE DIFFICULT BY CHANGING TO !KERmIT!841 (NOT 1234)OR WHATEVER IS
ALLOWED THAT YOU CAN REMEMBER (SO YOU DON'T WRITE IT DOWN AND TAPE
UNDER THE DESK)AND YET NOT BE TOO OBVIOUS TO OTHERS. AND OF COURSE,
SOOO MANY PEOPLE THINK SUPERSTUD69 OR SIMILAR IS A HIGHLY INNOVATIVE
NAME ONLY THEY WOULD THINK OF.just fyi.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 October 2011

That's no pimp...that's Huggy Bear!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 09 October 2011

Chicago hotel update.....

Be careful when you enter the hotel in chicago. Good chance you will be
approached by a pimp trying to sale boody call at 6:30 p.m.
looks like something that stepped out of the 70's. Fur coat and all!
Probably packing under that coat!  Wonder if ward would bring his
family there to stay for the weekend!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 07 October 2011

Hey RealVet:

It isn't necessary to post your comments under every topic!

Name: RealVet
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 07 October 2011

Mr. Ian - you are an idiot.  You can't even get Monte's number right. 
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA. LMAO at you dumbass.  Maybe you can put some
movement sensors on that rock you live under so when someone lifts it
you can crawl deeper under it. What a poser.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 06 October 2011

Wow Slackie --your game ---drunks being killed ---trains derailing and
still the trains are going too fast with sucky brakes. Are train
drivers suicidal?

Now read the first with the emission fix that would                    
     
cause a cut in executive compensation for a few years and then the
token railroad fix. Why have I never seen a employee shareholder
proposal? It's really easy and makes the executives squirm!!!

http://investors.csx.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=92932&p=irol-sec&secCat01Enhanced.1_rs=71&secCat01Enhanced.1_rc=10#7280936

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/csx-announces-results-of-partnership-to-address-climate-change-2011-09-28

Name: RealVet
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 05 October 2011

Hey Mr. Ian Murphy,

You are a poser and a loser.  A quick google of your name shows what
you are about.  How about you just change your log on name to Convict? 
How about SEAL Imposter?  

I am thinking you just be the POS that you are and flush yourself.

Name: abc
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 05 October 2011

csx doesnt give a shit about safety the bo conductors aren't even
allowed to lay off but one day sick every 28   there isn't anything
safe about a sick person going to work on the rr


B Edwards you can suck my dick

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 05 October 2011

I wonder how many CSX employees will be attending the FRA "Town
Meeting" on Oct. 11Th. 

They should be coming from far and wide...marking off if necessary.
There should be a large contingent from Chicago Land. Here's your
chance to voice your concerns and find out how serious the FRA is about
safety and harassment!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 04 October 2011

Rail safety concerns? Questions? FRA all ears

October 1, 2011 

CHICAGO — Here is an opportunity to voice your rail safety concerns
directly to the administrator of the Federal Railroad Administration.

A 90-minute town hall meeting on rail safety will be held Tuesday, Oct.
11, in Chicago. FRA Administrator Joseph Szabo will take questions and
hear concerns as part of the agency’s outreach to rail labor.

Szabo, formerly the UTU’s Illinois state legislative director and a
fifth-generation railroader, promises “a frank and often safety
discussion.” He also will share with the audience details on the FRA’s
risk reduction program, which is a non-punitive approach to addressing
safety in advance of an accident or injury.

FRA Associate Administrator for Safety Jo Strang wrote of that program
some months ago in an exclusive column that appeared in the UTU News
and on the UTU website. A link to that column is provided below.

Here are the details of the town hall meeting:

WHEN: Tuesday, Oct. 11, from 9-10:30 a.m.

WHERE: Chicago Laborers District Council, 999 McClintock Drive, Burr
Ridge, Ill. Burr Ridge is 20 miles southwest of downtown Chicago.

To read the Jo Strang column on the FRA’s risk reduction program, click
on the following link:

http://utu.org/2011/04/21/help-fra-stop-harassment-improve-safety/

Name: CorrUPtion Blogger
E-mail: hotelpatrol@ln.csx-t.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 04 October 2011

Hotel condition? If the carrier knows about the hooker hotel; call the
local sheriff and file a complaint. If the hotel is so substandard and
affects your ability to sleep; notify the hotel, your union, FRA, and
the carrier. It's easy to understand how minor problems gets magnified
if you wait for the next person to solve your problem.
 
Looks like the strike will happen!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 02 October 2011

Barry

No one has any guts to do anything about it? I wouldn't of tolerated
substandard accomedations to boost any LC's pockets with illegal
gains. If no one complains they must like the perks. I never would of
give up & shared a room with any co-worker for a frigging discount or
an occasional BJ. Everyone talks of CSX ethics but ignore something
like this. That makes anyone who condones this behavior an accomplice.
This type of behavior has nothing to do with the union. If either union
became aware well at least the BLE under the IBT criminal charges would
be brought upon these people. A quick confidential call to the local
vice department would end it. I'm sure that Indian owner would spill
the beans. To ignore it is just as bad as commiting the act.

Name: Barry
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 01 October 2011

Most of the hotels on the Chicago Division are beyond sub par.  I know
first hand that when we ran out of Garrett, and stayed at the Days Inn
on Torrance Ave. the Garrett LC's were running a prostution ring in
the back.  The guys didn't mind that the hotel was NASTY, because if
they shared a room with one of the guys, and gave their CSX paid for
room to one of the LC's "Girls" both guys got either a discount, or
"extra" services.  The Indian guy that ran the hotel didn't say
anything to CSX, as long as he got his cut, everyone was happy, except
those of us actually staying in our rooms.

Like the LC said to me personally, if you take care of the men,
they'll take care of you.  Unfortunately, he didn't mean taking care
of the men as in, better accomidations, better wages, better treatment.
 Oh wait he did mean better treatment, but that was to those that were
sharing rooms.

Long story short.  The rooms won't get any better in Chicago until you
get an LC that has to stay in the hotel, or isn't on the managers kick
back payroll.  

BTW I hear that Shawn Rosslli UTU LC 1518 worked with the BLE LC from
Div 25, and over the stringent objections of BLE LC Bob Denlinger, the
two of them were able to get the Great Lakes Division men moved out of
a drug and rodent infested Motel 6 gone bad. (AFTER TM RICK REED LEFT.)
The two LC's were able to move their men into a safe and clean hotel. 
They moved them into a DoubleTree by Hilton.  Why can't we all have a
good LC that actually care more about their men vs loosing their
position on the Cab Commette, and their "FREE" monthly trip to
Jacksonville (Bob Denlinger) or the kick backs that they're getting
from their managers.

Name: suzannah
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 01 October 2011

NOMO,


Checked pool at midnight last night when bid system repositioned
engineers.. 2 engineers bid on job and one was force assigned. Only one
showed up on the board. 2 marked off late last night and the other one
was still out of town and I didnt see one conductor assigned to it...
Supposed to force assign junior conductors to the job if no one bids.
Juniors just marked up 2 weeks ago.... Still saying they will not
provide a conductor who knows the run to qualify the new guys. Still
saying they are going to make engineer who is qualifying the new
engineer qualify the conductor at the same time.... Yes,,,,safety and
proper training is the CSX way.........HA!HA! HA! HA!  Just hope
nothing goes down with the new engineer while the old engineer(maybe RF
Im hearing) is messing with the conductor.

Name: kyle
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 01 October 2011

The thing that really irked me is when i hired out we had some old head
trainmen who never had to get promoted to conductor, they were ex
switch tenders & the rr abolished all the switch tender jobs and they
never had to get promoted to C, same goes with that spider web were all
those guys from the rr,s who merged with conrail, ie esp those wise
asses from the ex erie lacakwanna, they gave those guys senority over
us home yard boys,some of the worst enginmen i ever worked with came
from that old erie lackawana, they could not understand the ex prr-pc
b-o-r and they were so dam cocky & rude, f them i can,t help it they
hired on another rr that went belly up and the union gave them every
thing they wanted as far as senority an dthat still tiks me off.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 01 October 2011

Hey Suzannah:

We were in a Days Inn on Reed Blvd. in New Orleans East. Same deal,
hookers, druggies but only 5 minutes from Gentilly. Moved to Metairie,
a 20 minute drive off rush hours. The hotel set aside an entire floor
for us travelers but too far to walk to Lakeside Mall...they have since
moved across the interstate. There were always a bunch of old heads that
wanted to go back to the East.

It later came to light that a LC had "deal" with the Days Inn. I
don't remember what it was, if I ever knew, but it kept the crews
in the Days Inn way past the time they should have been gone.

Now for the F2 pool, I guess CMC has staffed it? Why would CSX abolish
and rebid the job? Sounds like some politicking from the 
LCs for additional jobs at Avon. I just don't see CSX putting a job on
that is sure to increase their costs. It's got to be 175 miles between
Indy and Chicago and unless you have high green the entire way CSX is
guaranteed a crew change. Lafayette to Chicago has to be a real push.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 01 October 2011

Are there no other hotels in the area? All the BLEt & UTU LC's have to
do is request a change of lodging concerning the fear for people's
safety. Then both scout the area looking for suitable lodging. After
that Corporate Lodging negotiates the price. The railroad is required
to provide a safe envirement.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@fidnet.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 01 October 2011

Wow Slackie ---You have your own railroad gameboard. Kool-aid beans. Is
the cover like your head sticking out the execs pocket?

Don't call me mister by the way ---Means you want something.

Slackie sez ---"""First off Mr Pines does not understand how the
SEC, FRA, DOT, or any other  Federal Gov agency works.. He really does
not understand simple things...

Sure I understand how they work. Just take this music and add the
lyrics 

"""SCREW YOU PUBLIC ---WE DON'T CARE"""over and over.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDTnegJvB3I

Does your game have like William Miller saving the atmosphere from
train fall out NOW and the brass STUDYING the problem?

Name: joe
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 30 September 2011

You know there's a problem with the hotel when you hear from several
people that use to work out of other terminals the same story. 
They've opened the door to the hallway to see what the noise is
outside their room.  Its always the same thing they see.  The cops havw
a man face down, and a shot gun aimed at his head.  Some of the people
talk about the cops having a dog, some don't.  

Yeah, this is a place that exemplifies CSX's moto, "safety first"

I'll take my safety vest lined with kevlar please.

Name: Suzannah
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 30 September 2011

NOMO,

"ME" is right. Not qualified past lafayette yard and have no desire
what so ever to be.  I havent heard one good thing about that run or
the hotel they stay in either. Hear its in a dangerous neighborhood. So
bad you dont dare venture out at night to get food. Not safe even in a
group. Supposed to be drug dealers hanging out around there and in the
hotel as well.   Nope, leave that run for the big boys... All theirs!

Name: slack action
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 30 September 2011

First off Mr Pines does not understand how the SEC, FRA, DOT, or any
other  Federal Gov agency works.. He really does not understand simple
things...

Then I went to Pines World and found out that I can Blame everyone for
my own screw ups.

I have developed a new board game called idiots at crossings with
Rorbert Pines serving at CEO.  Idiots sue RR for being stupid..

Move 1: Why should you look for a train at a RR crossing at grade? 
Duh... there might be a train

It's a drunk driving trying to fly a truck over a crossing trying to
beat a train at a  RR crossing at grade.

Move A:  Have the truck driver get qualified with the DOT.

Move B: Have cameras on all engines to catch idiots like PInes trying
to beat a train.. RR"s can save millions in frivolous lawsuits

Move C: Triple the cops at every crossing to catch violators and charge
 people like Pines and charge them triple the crossing  violating tax
fund on his income tax return....

Move D: Put  idiot / drunk - o - meters in all cars to catch idiots
that try to derail trains and commit a terrorist act

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 30 September 2011

Hey Robert:

Quit deflecting...where were you?

The Effingham incident was the drivers fault, he got hung up on a 
crossing that was slightly elevated...surely you can do better than
that!

Name: HAW
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 30 September 2011

tell doug running his mouth not only hurts him but everyone he works
with.best watch what says after a few beers.much less at work.best just
shutup for awhile and stay put.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 30 September 2011

Forced seperation ? Like was I Purdyzized by the Feds? I still have all
that stuff as a part of a SEC public file if anyone needs it.

Took me awhile to find a good pair of wing tip shoes with non slip
soles there NOMO.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ov4epAJRPMw

 Then I went through the self check out at Wally World and waited
forever for the results.

Lately I've been developing a new board game called railroapoloy
---Safety vs. railroad director compensation.
http://effinghamdailynews.com/archive/x597285986 Move 1 ---Why is there
a WATCH YOU STEP sign in this picture and no step.

http://effinghamdailynews.com/local/x1953746100/Train-semitrailer-collision-closes-crossings
 Its trailer — carrying an 86,000-pound piece of equipment for a dump
truck  — became high-centered on the tracks  and got stuck. 
Unable to stop, the train moving about 40 miles an hour collided with
the trailer, ripping it from the truck and shoving the piece of
equipment onto the ground on the north side of the tracks.
Move A --- Have the crossing leveled where a truck can't get
centerhung
MOVE B ---Have multiplex cameras where the train would know there was
truck stuck on the tracks  in time to stop
MOVE C ---Triple the directors compensation again this year.
MOVE D ---Just have the train driver calmly drinking his/her kool aid
while battering  """an 86,000-pound piece of equipment for a dump
truck.""" as usual.

Name: Yardmaster Jax
E-mail: 
Employed as: Yard Master, for 20-30 years
Posted: 29 September 2011

Ref:

Name: LOL
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for N/A
Posted: 28 September 2011

NEWS FLASH!  

Looks like we scored again! Avon remote crew backed into the side of an
INRD outbound train as it was leaving the yard. Trashed one of the
engines and spilled fuel as well as a car load of grain all over the
yard. Hazmat had to clean up mess! Seems conductor was so preoccupied
with looking over his shoulder in fear of getting an O-test failure
that he forgot to line a switch! Looks like hes going to get that
failure anyway!   HA!

Score...Trainmaster-1....conductor-0


-----------------------

So you are going to blame CSX on a remote conductor not protecting his
shove? The TM did not fail. You are a moron. The conductor could have
killed someone. Don't you understand that? You are blaming a TM for
being there to prevent that...for making his required checks? Sounds
like simple minded person that can't do his job when the boss is
watching.

Name: me
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 29 September 2011

NoMo,  I work at Lafayette and Suzannah (Susan Lucas) has never been
past Lafayette on a train.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 29 September 2011

Hey Suzannah:

Have you gotten your bid in for the F2 pool yet? Sounds like a money
maker. 

I didn't realize your were qualified that far!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 29 September 2011

Hey Robert:

Compared to you, we're all dimwitted!

You still haven't shared with us where you went for those couple of
years...it was obviously a forced separation. Was it prison or the
mental hospital?

Get back on your meds or give your therapist a call, we'll fell
better!

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 29 September 2011

NOMO sez """What happened to the crossing safety issue"""


Are you really this dimwitted NOMO? OK really slow now --- Would like
just 2 shares the directors ripped off in the three to one pay out pay
for like two stakes and piece of string to stretch across this crossing
to see the TRAP for big trucks? How about a few hours labor and a little
material to level the crossing out?

http://effinghamdailynews.com/archive/x597285986
http://effinghamdailynews.com/local/x1953746100/Train-semitrailer-collision-closes-crossings
Train-semitrailer collision closes crossings
Third, Fourth and Willow crossings to be closed most of the day

Samantha Newburn
Effingham Daily News

EFFINGHAM — Railroad crossings in Effingham at South Willow Street,
Third Street and Fourth Street will be closed most of the day Wednesday
due to an early morning train crash along the CSX tracks, according to
Effingham Police Department.

    Authorities are asking motorists to use the Banker Street overpass
instead and avoid the areas on Willow and Third Streets.

    An eastbound train collided with a trailer pulled by a semitruck
around 6:30 a.m. Wednesday at the Third Street crossing. After the
semi-driver missed the turn onto East Fayette Avenue from U.S. 45, the
oversized truck crossed the Third Street tracks.

    Its trailer — carrying an 86,000-pound piece of equipment for a
dump truck  — became high-centered on the tracks and got stuck. About a
minute after the driver got out of the cab and tried raising the trailer
off the tracks with an attached motor, he noticed train lights
approaching from the west.

    Unable to stop, the train moving about 40 miles an hour collided
with the trailer, ripping it from the truck and shoving the piece of
equipment onto the ground on the north side of the tracks. The damaged
engine came to a stop east of the Willow Street crossing.

    There were no injuries and authorities expect to be on the scene
most of the day.

Name: John
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 September 2011

I just got an email telling me that CSX has decided that it is safe to
pilot crews with an engineer ONLY.  They're testing this out on the
newly created F2 pool that runs between Avon, Indiana and Chicago,
Illinois.  CSX management is openly saying that conductor's don't
need to learn the territory the train runs on, just the yard where
they're putting the train away in.  When the train gets to Barr Yard,
CSX alledges that they will provide a UMan to train the conductor,
putting the entire burden of training the conductor on both the
engineer, and the engineer pilot.  (like Barr yard is an easy yard to
learn on your own.)

It seems that Scott Conner and John Bradley forgot to watch CSX's
September Safety video.  In the video CSX stresses how important it is
that the engineer and conductor not be distracted from doing their job.
 How is the engineer and the conductor to stay focused on learning the
territory that they're being forced assigned to when there is no
conductor on the train to pilot the conductor?  Does the engineer stop
the train so that the engineer pilot can work with the conductor?

Suzannah, do you care to comment on this?  Avon is your home terminal.

Name: LOL
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for N/A
Posted: 28 September 2011

NEWS FLASH!  

Looks like we scored again! Avon remote crew backed into the side of an
INRD outbound train as it was leaving the yard. Trashed one of the
engines and spilled fuel as well as a car load of grain all over the
yard. Hazmat had to clean up mess! Seems conductor was so preoccupied
with looking over his shoulder in fear of getting an O-test failure
that he forgot to line a switch! Looks like hes going to get that
failure anyway!   HA!

Score...Trainmaster-1....conductor-0

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 28 September 2011

Hey Robert:

No body cares what you or your "Hickabilly High Economics/horse manure
spread sheet instructor..." thinks. It's the way is is and has been
for years. If you don't like it do something about it, complaining
here won't get it done.

You should really find some new material, this rant is getting old!

What happened to the crossing safety issue and why did you drop off the
map for a couple of years?

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 28 September 2011

So NOMO ---I checked with me Hickabilly High Economics/horse manure
spread sheet instructor. He seemed to think it doesn't take 13
directors making millions to run/ruin a railroad.Coalate inverse and
subtract the square root of the dangle of the angle.


Rule #1 -- Don't get hurt.

    Safety is the first priority. Er, or is it the second, after
money.... Or the third after getting the trains out....

The web-master wrote this slow just for you NOMO because you must not
can't read too fast.
POINT GIVEN:::
If all the clown brass has all these bucks to give away ----why NOT
GIVE IT TO A SAFETY EQUIPMENT charity. How bout you Mikey W. ---might
take some of the ghosts out your closet.
+++++++++++++++++++
Let's see---CSX gave $110 a share for CONRAIL like 15 years ago and
the
stock is like $20 bucks a share now. WOW ----The brass needs
performance
medals or just chests to pin it on?

Can someone explain the 3 for 1 fireworks sale on CSX stock in June?
Did the brasses bonuses like triple and the 3 shares should be like
7$bucks apiece now?

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/277948/0000898822-96-000533.txt
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/109694/000118143110009824/xslF345X03/rrd266409.xml
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/934612/000118143110009742/xslF345X03/rrd266564.xml
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/934612/000118143110009617/xslF345X03/rrd266542.xml

Explanation of Responses:
1. On June 15, 2011, the common stock of CSX Corporation split
3-for-1,
resulting in the reporting person's ownership of an additional 25,564
shares of common stock.
2. On June 15, 2011, the common stock of CSX Corporation split
3-for-1,
resulting in the reporting person's ownership of an additional 92,894
shares of common stock.
3. By Ellen M. Fitzsimmons, Trustee.
4. Gift of 20,000 shares made to the Ayco Charitable Foundation.
5. On June 15, 2011, the common stock of CSX Corporation split
3-for-1,
resulting in the reporting person's ownership of an additional 13,276
shares of common stock.
6. By Trustee, CSX Corporation Executive Stock Trust.
7. On June 15, 2011, the common stock of CSX Corporation split
3-for-1,
resulting in the reporting person's ownership of an additional 6,583
shares of common stock.
8. By Trustee, CSX Corporation Savings Thrift Plan. Reflects
equivalent
shares of cash value held in CSX Stock Fund, which amounts will
fluctuate dependent upon daily net asset value of the fund.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 27 September 2011

If Pete Burrus was a descent human being maybe the good lord would have
blessed him with a normal child.

Name: Throttle *
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 27 September 2011

Living proof that alcohol and a computer doesn't mix....lol

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 25 September 2011

What a putz! Undercover Brother. To long winded need to cut the posts
down by 75%. Ranting after the second paragraph is tedious. No one
needs to read it on every thread one is sufficient.

Name: Proudly! Ian A. Murphy
E-mail: ravensceo@ravenswoodinc.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 24 September 2011

First Amendment rights are invoked here.

I would like to thank the gentleman who commented on my last comments
graciously and with a bow. And once again, the crew that saved me from
the swamp that PTI sent me to after 7.5 hours of downtime and drive
time combined,..again a great big thank you!

Ohh, and a special thanks to the PTI or is it CSX RAT squad and Monty
Wheaton (812) 430-4450@14:00, gee so nice to know that you can count on
your fellow employees to back you up


From what I have discovered from the corporate culture of the chicken
crap express or should I say common sense excluded Corporation that
while they think that they're doing one thing correctly and there
doing nothing more than creating difficulties and hell for all persons
involved. As to the poor PTI drivers; most of your assumptions are
correct but there are a few exceptions. PTI does not give a damn about
their drivers at all in my professional and personal opinion.First
Amendment rights are invoked here! They really don't quite care so
long as those vehicles are running round the clock seven days a week
365 days a year just like the railroad and it seems just like me common
sense excluded Corporation. 

Could someone please explain to me why it is required that there be
zero accidents with the exception of the fact that corporate liability
would then come into play and the simple fact that corporate stupidity
is grossly evident by the suits who are hired out of college and have
no idea how to run a railroad. The railroad looks great on paper and
for the shareholders of which I am one. I do plan to be at that
shareholders meeting and I do plan on bringing other shareholders with
me and we will bring about change so that the employees have a say in
their pensions and their healthcare costs and other costs that they
must bear at this time. Please do remember something chicken shipped
express; it takes one person to start a revolution and I am that person
a will go ahead and start that revolution if I have to stand outside of
every one of your yards on public property and I will have full audio
and video surveillance with me at all times this way there is no
discrepancy in the reports. 

It is time that someone stands up for these guys and takes his stand
for them for they work hard and they are in danger every day because of
your corporate policies and the simple fact that not one hand knows what
the other hand is doing. Now I understand that none of use CSX employees
can go ahead and jeopardize your jobs for this; but since I do not have
to work; I can go ahead and stand outside of any yard and handout
company corporate shares (preferred and common)and other things such as
water, food, shares of stock and all will be courtesy of myself as a
gift to make sure that this does not occur again. The days of the
robber railroad barons are coming to a close very quickly and if
corporate security wishes to go ahead and start an investigation into
me why not call me and we can start playing games that way. I have a
background in Full military technical surveillance and countermeasures
background and the equipment to back it up. Got an OSCAR Green unit
there boys, how about a CPM700, Got a broom (NLJ Detector) got multiple
Spectrum Analyzers that goes from 0- to 300 GHz. Got Night vision, laser
grid detectors, got any of it? Got bugs, fiber wiretaps, got ways to
bypass spread-spectrum broadcasts. You have no clue! Nor do you have an
allowance to even start against me.  I am fully in support of CSX
employees, but management just pure sucks!  I don't think so and if so
I have the countermeasures to flood your spectrum's with light, RF and
Microwave to stop you while picking you up.  you have a background in
being a cinder dick as the saying goes. Don't worry I have high speed
very long-range telephoto lenses I can take pictures of anything I want
from anywhere I want and then of course there is Google Earth which by
the way if you notice one of your particular yards to have a strip club
near and and you can read the license plates on the cars in the strip
club which means that I can read the license plates on the cars in the
yards. Can you say electronic surveillance? Can you say satellite
surveillance? Can you say information warfare? Can you say you are far
beyond anything you ever dreamed of? I'll and by the way the joining a
union so that I will have full access to the properties so that I may
speak to various union members about their complaints. Have a nice day
corporate security; I used to work for people like you and I know what
sort of idiot you are. I'm out to help the workers you're out to
screw the workers along with the Board of Directors. And let me add
this I happened on over 100,000 shares of this railroad stock held in
trust funds and there's not a damn thing you can do about it except
maybe purchase me out. Remember what Gordon Gecko said: greed is good
taking them over is better.

And may the vote go forward and may you all succeed in shutting down
this this disgusting Corporation and its attitude and its management.

In addition I would like to bring to your attention that if you feel
that you are getting into any of the buses and you see that any of the
indicator lights are on then I would highly suggest that you not be bus
out of service. This way maybe PTI will get the message when so many
buses are taken out of service by crews that don't feel safe riding in
the death mobiles. I'm so glad that I found this website and I will be
buying the website master of beer, doughnuts and a meal at a five-star
restaurant with the finest line possible for he is continued efforts to
get the truth out. To that gentlemen I say bravo!

And if anyone in corporate security wants to try me just remember I
have better surveillance capabilities then you do and I am a
professional computer hacker. Got it! I know more about you than you
know about you. All I have to do is pick up a phone and tell them that
you're attacking me. Next time you should do your background checks a
little deeper and find out that I used to work in information warfare
and intelligence. Not some funky ex-cop who got hired on as a railroad
cinder dick looking for vagrants and the occasional box car broken
into. That's why they call it insurance have a nice day boys and to my
CSX brothers I say go for the strike and shut them down. But I expect
that the federal government will get an injunction to stop you and that
is a real shame. So maybe you should work by the rules, or if not don't
work by the rules and document, document, document everything you do.
Have a good day I hope you win.And just remember, I am on the boys
side, not eh corporate side. I see how stupid the corporate side is.
Bring it on! CSX can't run without employees and either can PTI. You
just screwed with the wrong person.Remember you are always under
surveillance. Or my corporate Motto: "Everyone is under surveillance
and Security; Who's watching you?" @copyright 1984 

And to the conductors and the IBLE nad the switchman and the yardmen,
if you see One little bitty thing wrong with a bus, yank it out of
service and watch PTI fix the things right. After all, rules are rules,
are they not??????

Go IBLE, GO UTU, Go any other union that can shut them down for at
least an hour; it will cost them millions!

And one other thing, I not some poor kid desperate for a job, I went
under cover to see just how bad it really is! And PTI, welcome to the
new Federal Whistle Blower Law! The new law went into effect in 08/2011

Name: mark
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 24 September 2011

to strike....proof read dummy.

Name: mark
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 24 September 2011

Wow,that last post IS CSX!..sorry murphy, no one should have to go
through that kind of stuff...and hey are we really going in strike?

Name: Proudly! Ian A. Murphy
E-mail: ravensceo@ravenswoodinc.com
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 23 September 2011

first off, I would like to thank the crew whose save me from the swamp
that PTI put me in, in the first place. PTI is nothing more than a
disgrace and a complete sham when it comes to driver training, driver
competency and the simple fact that their vehicles are mechanically
unsafe and unsound. PTI stands for nothing more than making a dollar
and has absolutely no clue as to what they put their drivers through.
The Tampa division has absolutely no leadership, no idea of what it's
doing, and does not care with the exception of getting out the drivers
to the crews stranded out in the middle of nowhere to rescue them while
they had to rescue me. Sending drivers out after sitting for six hours
of doing nothing and then to have them drive 1.5 hours to a location
that they have absolutely no idea where it is; and then to only by the
grace of what ever God being able to find a locomotive light on and
walking through a swamp area screaming CXS,CSX, What radio code? the
crew was kind enough to respond channel 84 and then informed me that
there were alligators and diamondback snakes and rattlesnakes in the
area that I was walking did not give me a comfortable feeling. I
frankly don't give a hoot if corporate security or the cinder "dick"
as railroad cops are known; (nothing more than glorified mall cops!)
Even think if they can think. I learned more in a few days from the
locomotive engineers and the conductors than I ever wish to know about
an operation such as this railroad and its insane policies.

Let us take for example the idiot train master or would it be the idiot
yard master who was complaining about the way my vehicle was parked 300
yards away from any other vehicle. At three o'clock in the morning he
comes out and sates what's wrong with this picture?
I see absolutely nothing wrong with the picture; but he seems to point
out that my vehicle was pointed in the wrong direction that it should
have been rear in and nose out, not the way it was parked. In addition
he was complaining that there was water dripping from the condensate
line from the air-conditioning of the vehicle, inferring there
could've been a slip and fall hazard. Well if someone is going to walk
over 300 yards over gravel and dirt and sand and proceed to slip and
fall then I would consider that to be grounds for stupidity. This
lamebrain at the same time while I watched multiple bags of 50 pound
ice bags being smashed at the front steps of the same building while
there was multiple puddles of water and ice cubes which could create a
slip and fall hazard was not addressed by this complete and total
moron. Yes I was told that there are no addresses or names or
physicality or GPS coordinates or latitude or longitude coordinates for
any of these yards but it does seem interesting that Google Earth seems
to have all this information available on the touch of a tablet,
laptop, iPad, Annie's form of intelligent device that is able to
access Google Earth. My deepest sympathies to both the CSX employees
and to the PTI pasts current and future employees. Please be made aware
that I personally will be filing a federal whistleblower lawsuit against
CSX and PTI and made corporate security who have visited this website
for well over 19,000 times enjoy the fact that I used to be a corporate
security officer myself and not some mall cop. Yes you are a bunch of
retired feds and other lower life forms of law and tried to get a job
in the corporate world to supplement your income. To bad for you that
you chose Csx for your place of employment. It seems that they will
hire anyone to become a railroad cop let alone a yard master or a train
master. And if you don't like my opinion then please look up the First
Amendment.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 23 September 2011

Hey Robert:

I think the only person here with ghosts in their closet, is you!

If you have a point, be direct...don't beat around the bush. There is
absolutely no correlation between your posts of 9/21 and today.

Additionally, you should be ashamed to write "The web-master wrote
this slow just for you NOMO because you must not can't read too
fast." That makes you sound like an uneducated Ozark Hillbilly!

If your not careful they'll take away all your sharp objects and put
you in a rubber room!

Name: kyle
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 23 September 2011

Was it not the utu who sold out the flagmans job?

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 23 September 2011

Rule #1 -- Don't get hurt.

    Safety is the first priority. Er, or is it the second, after
money.... Or the third after getting the trains out....

The web-master wrote this slow just for you NOMO because you must not
can't read too fast.
POINT GIVEN:::
If all the clown brass has all these bucks to give away ----why NOT
GIVE IT TO A SAFETY EQUIPMENT charity. How bout you Mikey W. ---might
take some of the ghosts out your closet.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 22 September 2011

Who the heck reads "Train" magazine? A foamer.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 22 September 2011

Hey Robert:

Your meds aren't working!

What does the BNSF have to do with the point you're trying to make?
Which is? What does any of this have to do with safety?

We know you hate all RRs and their employees but you won't change
anything because nobody cares. Besides, going off on these tangents
doesn't do anything for your credibility!

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 21 September 2011

Let's see---CSX gave $110 a share for CONRAIL like 15 years ago and the
stock is like $20 bucks a share now. WOW ----The brass needs performance
medals or just chests to pin it on?

Can someone explain the 3 for 1 fireworks sale on CSX stock in June?
Did the brasses bonuses like triple and the 3 shares should be like
7$bucks apiece now?

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/277948/0000898822-96-000533.txt
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/109694/000118143110009824/xslF345X03/rrd266409.xml
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/934612/000118143110009742/xslF345X03/rrd266564.xml
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/934612/000118143110009617/xslF345X03/rrd266542.xml

Explanation of Responses:
1. On June 15, 2011, the common stock of CSX Corporation split 3-for-1,
resulting in the reporting person's ownership of an additional 25,564
shares of common stock.
2. On June 15, 2011, the common stock of CSX Corporation split 3-for-1,
resulting in the reporting person's ownership of an additional 92,894
shares of common stock.
3. By Ellen M. Fitzsimmons, Trustee.
4. Gift of 20,000 shares made to the Ayco Charitable Foundation.
5. On June 15, 2011, the common stock of CSX Corporation split 3-for-1,
resulting in the reporting person's ownership of an additional 13,276
shares of common stock.
6. By Trustee, CSX Corporation Executive Stock Trust.
7. On June 15, 2011, the common stock of CSX Corporation split 3-for-1,
resulting in the reporting person's ownership of an additional 6,583
shares of common stock.
8. By Trustee, CSX Corporation Savings Thrift Plan. Reflects equivalent
shares of cash value held in CSX Stock Fund, which amounts will
fluctuate dependent upon daily net asset value of the fund.

Name: Did U Read Reply
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 21 September 2011

Did you all read the great article about CSX in this past issue of
TRAINS Magazine? 
MAYBE CSX PAID THEM TO RUN IT OR SOMEONE CALLED IN A FAVOR. 

WHY THE HECK ARE YOU POSTING ON HERE ?   TO SUCK UP ???????   -50
POINTS    YOU FAIL!!!!!

Sure seems like a company thats  (punctuation -1)moving for the
better.
Micheal(spelling deduction -2) Ward is doing a great job running the
company.  
HE HAS DONE SOMETHINGS BETTER THAN OTHERS BEFORE HIM BUT HE HIRED THE
NAZI CRIMINALS TO RUN TRANSPORTATION FIRE OLD EMPLOYEES HIRE NEW ONES
AT 80 PERCENT AND FIRE THEM TOO KEEP EVERYONE IN FEAR OF YOUR JOB. 
HIRE YES MANAGERS WHO KNOW NOTHING BUT WILL DO ANYTHING TO KEEP THEIR
JOB AND GIVE THEM A CARROT UPPER MANAGEMENT CAN STEAL THE BIG BONUSES
AND TAKE CREDIT FOR WORKING THE DOG SHIT OUT OF EVERYONE ELSE. 

So why the need for such a negetive (spelling deduction -2) website?

BECAUSE THIS NAZI OUTFIT HAS FUCKED OVER SO MANY PEOPLE AND RUN A
UNSAFE OPERATION THAT LIES AND COVERS UP ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING.  IT
IS FRAUD AND CORRUPTION.

NOW YOU KNOW WHY CSX-SUCKS.COM EXISTS.   YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOME BALLS TO
POST ON THIS SITE TOO. CSX MANAGERS RUN THEIR OPERATIONS BY READING POST
ON HERE.   THEY FEAR SOMEONE TO WRITE ANYTHING ABOUT THEM SINCE
JACKSONVILLE KEEPS TABS ON EVERY POST ON HERE.

Name: Did you read?
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 21 September 2011

Did you all read the great article about CSX in this past issue of
TRAINS Magazine? Sure seems like a company thats moving for the better.
Micheal Ward is doing a great job running the company. So why the need
for such a negetive website?

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 20 September 2011

I don't think compensation for railroad CEO's is all that outragious.
One can't just look at CSX it's all the railroads. When compared to
Wall St, bankers, oil, auto ect...railroads are on the low end of the
pay scale.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 September 2011

Hey Robert:

I agree executive compensation, across the board is ridiculous,
just not at CSX. Cover up? Their compensation and the guidelines for
which a published in the proxies. The BoD sets the pay and stock option
grants for the key employees and the shareholders elect the BoD.

As far as the lawyers are concerned the stock is lettered and falls
under rule 144 of the SEC code. These are in-house lawyers and that's
part of their job.

Guess who does their taxes and who pays for their investment advice?

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 September 2011

And you care to cover up the out of  control CSX brass salaries why
NOMO?

I was thinking more like a class action suit against the brass for them
having a company lawyer do their personal finance deals to the SEC and
the company not paying for ALL attorney fees on stock transactions for
all stockholders. Just check the signatures on the SEC filings.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 September 2011

Hey Pines:

You point being? 

Call the DoJ and the SEC with your concerns, I'm sure you have them on
speed dial.

EVERY public company offers key employees stock options but you already
knew that. Get back on your meds...you'll feel better!

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 16 September 2011

NOMO a stock option would be atta boy go sick them. Not gifting to wifee
1,000s of shares at a time. And if the amount the mickey mouse stock is
$20 ---with the brass saying like $70 ----well that is fraud.

http://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/own-disp?action=getowner&CIK=0001165185

Name: Switch to BLET
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 16 September 2011

Railroads Disappointed with NMB Decision to End Mediation

September 6, 2011

Unions refuse to consider 17% wage increase and freeze on employee
health care contributions

WASHINGTON (September 6, 2011) – The National Carriers’ Conference
Committee (NCCC) issued the following statement today on the decision
by the National Mediation Board (NMB) to release two coalitions
representing 11 unions from federal mediation with the nation’s
largest railroads. The statement can be attributed to A. Kenneth
Gradia, Chairman of the NCCC, the railroads’ bargaining
representative.

“We are extremely disappointed by the Board’s decision to end
mediation. It is clear this action reflects the enormous pressure the
unions have placed on the Board to obtain what we believe is a
premature release given that neither coalition has bargained in good
faith.

“The carriers, with the assistance of the Board, have reached
agreement with the industry’s largest rail union, the United
Transportation Union, covering nearly a third of railroad employees in
collective bargaining. However, the two coalitions have rejected this
contract as a pattern for discussion. They have refused to address the
constantly escalating costs of employee health care in any meaningful
way, despite the railroads’ offer to freeze employee cost-sharing
contributions. And they have dismissed as insufficient a proposed 17%
wage increase for employees who are already among the nation’s most
highly compensated workers. Their intransigence undermines not only
current negotiations, but also the time-honored process used to reach
voluntary agreements in the rail industry.

“Although the railroads accepted the Board’s offer of binding
arbitration, the coalition unions did not. We fully expect that a
Presidential Emergency Board will be appointed before October 7, the
end of the statutory ‘cooling off’ period. This will defer the
possibility of any service disruptions for an additional 60 days. In
the past, PEB recommendations have provided the basis for voluntary
settlements. We hope that will be the case in this round and that the
nation will not experience disruptions to rail service that could
threaten the nation’s already fragile economy.â€

The NCCC represents more than 30 railroads, including BNSF, CSX
Transportation, Kansas City Southern, Norfolk Southern and Union
Pacific, in national bargaining with the 13 major rail unions.


Railroads Disappointed with NMB Decision to End Mediation ::
RailLaborFacts.org

Name: kyle
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 16 September 2011

to rrj, someof those crestline hoogers were real good at power braking,
ie stretch braking i assume on the old b&o had one that power braked a
10,000 ton coal train 1 day, he was so good at it that he came to a
stop 3 car lenths from the home signal, from 40mph to a safe stop like
that, not many today would even know how to do it, the guy scared the
hell out me doing that too as when we seen the approach distant signal
he did nothing, just kept the trottle in run 8 until he picked his mark
then wam he makes a full service and stops like that on a dime, i seen
that power braking done a lot with light trains like van trains but
never with a coal train, thats what you call knowing the territory yer
running over, thats what ya call real railroading, heck ya get a hooger
today and they panic when something happenes to the dynamic & so do the
di,s.... just wonder how they did it in the steam days cuz there was no
such thing as a dynamic on a steam engine.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 15 September 2011

As a conductor, more and more I begin to understand why this site
exists.  I used to read this site before I worked for CSX and thought,
how can some of these things be true.  Well, I understand a little
better now.  It is amazing to me how quick you can be involved in an
investigation simply for just being in the general vicinity of what
ever they're investigating.  I don't want to get into the problem
because it's an active investigation, I will say, fellas.... be
careful of what is going on around you, they will hold anyone within
radio distance responsible for any reason.  Even if you are not part,
attached, or associated with the crew that is in question.  What a
shame, they can't understand why morale is low.  Before CSX I was a
supervisor, I'm not saying I'm the brightest bulb... but, they seem
to thing everyone in T&E is a uneducated idiot.  I don't know
everything...but I know from the management labor classes I've had,
CSX defies everything I was ever tot in how to deal with labor issues
and insubordination.  They seem to want to have a " one size fits
all" solution, and it's just not possible without "shooting yourself
in the foot" so to speak.  Put simply....morale killer in my humble
opinion.  I understand that rules must be complied with and safety is
priority one, I'm all for that.  We do have dangerous occupations. 
That being said, at the same time....you can't have employees going to
work so worried about the rules to an extent that they begin to lose
focus on what they're doing... fearing that someone is in the bushes
watching them.  Unfortunately, this is what they will never understand
sitting in an office.  Instead, it is much easier just to start to
spread blame and begin investigating, and firing.  Again, what a shame,
 that's mutual accountability on their terms.  If any of us ever
wondered what true socialism would be like....I'd have to believe that
CSX is a decent model.  Remember, socialism is for the people....not the
socialists.  It does not matter what the circumstance, you will be
wrong, it's the way they designed the rules...as employees of T&E we
will always be wrong and in violation.
I can honestly say, this incident will definitely have an effect on me.
 I am a employee that has a clean record and I go to work when I'm
called without issue.  That's how I make my living....isn't that why
we are all here?  Point being, it doesn't matter...if you are around
when the hammer falls, you will more than likely fall to.   

Be careful and safe fellas.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 September 2011

Hey Pines:

You know exactly how a stock option works.

If you don't see it it's because you're looking in the wrong place,
but you already knew that...try looking in the Proxy Statement.
However, make sure your glasses are on and you're lucid or trying to
understand it might drive you crazy!

Name: kyle
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 14 September 2011

to rrj, yea i do re-call that some hoggers would use the stretch braking
when i hired on, some were real good at it while others were scared to
even try it, heck i even seen some hoggers,old heads, they would take a
tonage train down the mountain by using the feed valve which is a NO NO
today, ALso a few times i had to set retainers when the dynamic would
conk out in route, seen some hoggers also get in big trouble with that
dynamic, had i a few yrs ago, he had 24 traction motors on line and
went into dynamic on a s curve, he wiped out 4 main tracks, those cars
were stacked 3 high,lol that curve became a monument for him.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 September 2011

http://phx.corporate-ir.net/External.File?item=UGFyZW50SUQ9ODYzNDd8Q2hpbGRJRD0tMXxUeXBlPTM=&t=1

I don't see that option of receiving variable common rate stock and
selling it at 4 times value for the so-called directors NOMO do you? Or
is that how you cook the books?

Let's see INCOME --- That would be GROSS minus TARE = NET profit.
Soooo the billion a year CSX income shown would take 22 years to pay
off the $22 billion debt YET the brass are paying themselves millions
for some magic reason and not hiding.

By the way do the accountants here actually know decimals? In millions
would be 6 0s' added to the number given not 3 0s'. A 33% percent
depreciation would be 33% not the 2% shown.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 13 September 2011

kyle

I had at least 12 times where a helper had to stay attached for up to
40 miles when CSX would run one unit on a 150 car coal train to make
sure I didn't stall. I always told the helper engineer on a decline
don't use the dynamics I'd handle the speed with my dynamics and an
automatic air brake reduction with bunch braking all he had to do was
keep the independent bailed off on his locomotive. When I had engineer
trainees I always taught them streach braking & bunch braking. I had
permission from the RFE to teach streach braking seeing it's against
the rules. Someone had to show them how it's done in case a locomotive
lost it's dynamics.

Name: kyle
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 13 September 2011

good point rrj about the slack action, can ya just imagine how much
slack is in like a 70 car van-tv train with those 90ft tofc flats or a
train with all high cubes,, and i still think its a dangerous practise
to have helpers on the rear using dynamic when going down the mountain
with a tonnage coal train.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 10 September 2011

No one will ever know what really happened, the only thing you can do is
speculate, and that is what CSX is doing.  And CSX is never at fault,
when they speculate.  I hope everyone keeps him and his family in your
prayers and thoughts.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 10 September 2011

it is sad that the employee lost his life yes there are a lot of if's
involving this tragic accident don't let your guard down guys and gals
stay safe for yourselves and your families.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 10 September 2011

Pushed many a train over the hill, in the old days, I am sure the rules
have changed.

No Air on the pusher, to the train, we cut them off on the run. Pull
the lever and watch the slack come to us. No harm no foul no one on the
ground.

 Looks like the rules are causing a few problems.

Name: mongo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 10 September 2011

the paper i saw today stated he released 3 step and walked between the
cars and engine and i assume did not account for the slack. There are
alot of "What If's" and some "Why Didnt He..". Its a shame.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 10 September 2011

Kyle

I just reread the article. It states that a southbound was having
trouble making an incline so another locomotive coupled for a shove.
When he detached & separated the slack came back pinned him between the
rear car & locomotive. To many "what if's". Did he still have 3 step
while in between the rails? Did he release 3 step? Did the head end
engineer release the automatic prematurely not thinking of slack? That
I've seen happen on many occasions while working helper service.
That's why I always adviced people to separate at least 3 cars. Do
they even teach that there is at least 25 feet per 50 cars of slack?
It's probabley more today with the 100 & 120 ton hoppers that estimate
was when we were still running 50 & 60 ton hoppers. You're right he
could of just became complacent doing it for so many years. I misread
the other comment on here the person who stated they went to school
with him listed themselves as non-railroad. I'm taking it at age 59 he
had a lot of years working for the railroad. Sad part less than a year
from retirement age. Statistics show the most dangerous times on a job
are the first 5 years and the last 5 years. Any loss is sad & difficult
on the family members & co-workers. If there is a positive it's opening
up peoples eyes that it only takes a second for bad to happen.

Name: kyle
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 10 September 2011

To rrj--- i did not know that fatal involved a helper move, but the only
way he would have been crushed is if the slack ran out and the drawbars
by passed and i think that is what did happen, i give those things a
wide birth so ta say even with a blue flag & 3 step protection, or maby
the guy did get caught between the 2 knuckles, if its 1 thing i ever
learned, its that you NEVER assume anything as far as rr operations go
as if ya do then you are a invation to trouble, it only takes 1 time to
let yer guard down for a thing like this to happen, I would bet the dude
who got killed had done this same thing manyh times were it got to be
just routine, no such thing as routine on the rr as it only takes just
the 1 time for a thing to go wrong and most of the time you don,t live
to tell about it, hell i work in a big yard and i have seen cars
de-rail for no apprent reason at all, they just did it.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 September 2011

Hey CorrUPtion Blogger:

This is at least 3x I've asked you to quit posting on every topic.

Evidently you're not too bright...pick on Charlie Koch, he's worth a

$100 billion, These guys that work for the RR are chumps!

Name: CorrUPtion Blogger
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 September 2011

A strike at least 2 days could seriously disrupt Railroad operations and
could restore a "little" credibility in--international, general, and
local leadership. The recently ratified UTU agreement is nothing but
comparing apples to oranges over healthcare cost. 
The healthcare cost could easily be absorb by the 20-fold pay increases
to Railroad executives over the past few years when wages were going in
opposite directions. 

The membership got looted of leadership during the times of
international (from both unions) indiscretions and the carriers took
advantage of that and now the carriers is taking advantage of the
current political leadership crisis.

Once again:
The combined accumulated wealth of the top CEO's is over 1 BILLION
DOLLARS. Why can't that be exploited when negotiating a contract?
That's enough money to pay for all the employee contributions for the
next 30 years.
TE&Y members working in a demanding hazardous environment of train
operations should be compensated--not degraded as a normal occupational
hazard!

Use your unique skills as leverage; not as a submission to Robber 
Barons!

May God bless the family of the conductor killed in a switching
accident reported today by: UTU.org.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 09 September 2011

Kyle

CSX wouldn't at least I hope CSX doesn't use a remote for a rear end
shoving move. I've learned with CSX to never say never. From what I
gathered from the limited info in the article it appears to be a train
assisting another over an ascending grade on a mainline. What do
reporters know it wouldn't be the first time they incorrectly
identified a crew member. Someone on here stated they went to the REDI
with this guy the article states he was 59 years old. I'm not sure how
many years he had on the railroad it didn't give it. Still a lot of
people if unfamiliar with helper operations both head end and rear end
don't take in to consideration the possibilty that slack could come
back. We usually backed up at least 3-4 cars lengths after detaching
the locomotive from the rear of the train.

Name: kyle
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 09 September 2011

to rrj, did this death have anything to do with a remote operation?

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 09 September 2011

NoMo

It would of been dense to allow stock options to expire. There isn't a
person on here who wouldn't do the same. Pines, you stated CSX stock
has never gone above $25 a share. I don't know where you got your info
but the stock was at $72+ a share when it split 3 to 1 this year plus an
increase in dividends. I'm so confident about CSX I've added more
shares to my portfolio seeing the market is in a downturn. CSX price is
attractive at $20 which is still above the recession price but below the
split price. I'll add more if the price is right. It's all $$$$$$ to
me. Just have to be in it for the long haul not day trading BS. All
railroads are down not just CSX. NS & UP has taken a hit worse than
CSX. NS down over $6 a share UP around $15 CSX is around $3.50.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 September 2011

Hey Pines:

Don't hand us your BS...you know exactly how a stock option works, if
you don't you might study up before you make yourself look stupid.

Those options were granted years ago at a fixed price and have an
expiration date. There is no money required to exercise the options so
anyone that didn't take advantage of them would be an idiot.

Everyone could use a couple of extra million!!!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 09 September 2011

What I read with the incident with the conductors death it was an
assist. They referred to him as an engineer but that doesn't make
sense. Why would the engineer be in between the rear car & locomotive?
Apparently he didn't give enough of a separation to allow for a roll
back. Not sure if people in that area are familiar with working
pushers. I worked pushers a lot one thing I always stressed to
conductors especially to those new or unfamiliar with the job give
plenty of room before going in between to open knuckles to couple or
put on the EOT because the train could roll back. The head end engineer
should of had the air brakes applied if 3 step was in place. I guess if
a camera was installed on the assisting locomotive it'll explain
somethings.

Name: Joe T. Plummer
E-mail: rrstrike.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 September 2011

Imminent strike looming for at least one day....In the mean time; take
all pit stops needed for personal health! Bring back the good old days
of unity and trumping greed!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 09 September 2011

Dennis Hemme was killed near Botkins Ohio. Crushed between the loco and
a hopper. dennis was a good classmate and friend

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 September 2011

Tell me Slackie --- Would positive train contol would keep a train
engine from rolling backwards?

Yeah NOMO Cramer would think HUH why don't the railroad execs keep the
stock if its so good? Hmmmm 2% return isn't a good investment I
wouldn't think.

Unless http://investors.csx.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=92932&p=irol-sec

On Jan 13 Ward got like 90,000 shares @ like $16 bucks and sold them
the same day for $68 ea. A $52 a share profit but yet the stock hasn't
ever been over $25 a share ---much less a $52 increase in value in one
day. Quick investor? Would $4.5 million pay for some train controls?

Name: slack action
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 08 September 2011

Gee Pinester: I do not think you need to call CSX and tell them about
PTC... If you work for the railroad you know what it is .  It is people
like you who are not familar with the way the railroad operates that do
not know what PTC is.  But you keep asking questions ergo, you will
learn alot.  Mr Brown made a good move... Little hint: you can learn
about how the stock market works by watching your buddy Cramer.  

Keep on asking and you will learn, it might take a little time

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 September 2011

Brown sold the stock pre split and filled out paper work for the SEC.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 08 September 2011

you should stop after 8 if you dont want to work.  They need to give you
at least a four hour grace period, after the grace period you should not
have to be forced.  This is worse than state laws, and some of you are
in some of the most powerful unions in the world,  But I can see that
your unions, on the local level are not much.  There are things you can
do, sign petitions, to have your representatives removed, over throw
these corrupted unions, if they cant get you better conditions than
what you have.  These sub-standard unions at the railroad are not
working for the members, instead they are in CSX pocket.  The RR unions
are responsible for these sub-standard conditions

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 08 September 2011

Another employee dead:
http://www.whiotv.com/news/29115901/detail.html

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 08 September 2011

Robert that was a great post of CSX management , insider trading, NO
LOSE SITUATION like the major banks BAILOUT.   FYI: Brown is the Head
Nazi Brownshirt creating the Gaystepo work environment to make T&E work
like slaves with never taking a day off while he collects more bonus
money at our expense.         Keep posting and we shall see that 
jackass going out the door sometime soon.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 08 September 2011

It's funny listening/reading this stuff. It's kinda like watching
Jerry Springer, you bitch about work, you bitch about making overtime,
you bitch about this and that. If the job is so bad, WHY STAY? Try
working a real job where you have to actually sweat for a living making
minimum wage. Worrying if you're going to make your bills or not. where
else can you make this kind of money, sitting, eating PB and Jelly,
watching the scenery, getting hotel rooms for free and reimbursed for
your meals? The ones who bitch all the time should get off their high
horses and realize how damn lucky they are to have a job! If you don't
like your job, or it's causing you that much grief, F*cking Quit! Go
fry burgers for minimum wage.

Name: KYLE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 08 September 2011

T&E have no choice in the OT matter cuz all reg yard jobs are advertised
with only a reg starting time & 99% road and locals are now called as
needed also with only a starting time, so yer stuck with working maby 1
hr or 12 and if you refuse to work after 8 hrs they can charge you with
insbornation, in fact when i hired out it was like that probably has
been that way for the past 100 yrs or so even before the rr was union,
all the other union crafts like m&w, m&e, clerks, ym,s etc etc, thier
reg jobs are advertised with both a start & finish time, usualy 8 hrs
so they can refuse to work after 8 hrs, i know some ym,s who have done
that without any re-precussions, yea see ot is a option for the other
crafts, But not for t&e, just see what would happen if you were on a
road job and you stopped your train out in 10 buck 2 and said i am not
working after 8 hrs, you can bet yer last dime that you are going to be
in for a world of shit unless it was some type of medical emergency, Not
saying these rules are right but i knew this when they hired me and i
accepted it or not have a job.

Name: CorrUPtion Blogger
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 September 2011

Lay-Off restrictions: A "day" constitute a 24 hour continuous time
period....If your union allows that to be cut in half; you need
stronger leadership. Lay-off issues seems to be the prevailing problems
for most of the complainers. You all are pissing in the wind if you
don't change leadership. One less hired American is an additional
thousands into the pockets of the Robber Barons!

America is a great country with doctors and lawyers on both sides of
the isle!

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 September 2011

Boy Slackie I'm sure glad you explained PTC as positive train control.
Maybe, think I should call CSX and have them put that info onto their
railroad definitions page. I kinda figured out the PTC thing reading
the NTSB findings on about every train vs. train investigation the NTSB
has ever done when they say "positive train control was needed to
prevent collision. Ergo MASS MURDERs on the railroads and feds part.

Now a real railroad question David A brown who ever that may be sold
5,000 shares of CSX stock in May at $76 a share when the stock was like
$25 a share. Would Jesse James be proud of this train robbery?

http://www.csx.com/index.cfm/about-csx/company-overview/railroad-dictionary/?i=P
Brown David A
Common Stock 05/20/2011
Disposed
5,000 shares @ $76.595 share 
http://investors.csx.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=92932&p=irol-stockquote

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 07 September 2011

Hey Friend:

I don't know where you get your information but CSX can hold you over.
They can't make you come in on your off day but if you're at work they
can old you're job over. Just remember, they can work you long, only
you can work you hard!

If you're lucky the double you to a new ticket. I worked the yard
extra board and got called for an R10 on the Hill's off day, Saturday.
95% of the time we would've been out by lunch but there
was some re-railing we had to do. It was 1500 and the relief was in the
shack...there was a cut of 20 or 25 cars that we hadn't gotten to; the
Yardmaster told us to finish it. The Engineer got pissed and told the
YM that if he had to stay for 10 extra minutes to switch the cut, he
would just as soon make 12 hours.

It took us 10 minutes to drag and switch the cut and the YM told us to
go sit in the car shop lounge...we did for 3:50.

The only easier money I ever made at CSX was sitting in the hotel in
NOLA on detention for 56 hours!!!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 07 September 2011

Didn't anyone ever tell you people once on the railroad expect anything
to happen. I've never seen a bunch of wimps like some you out there
today. Once your called you belong to CSX. Go cry to the union that CSX
forced you to make overtime they'll be laughing for years telling that
one. Heck, I'm laughing now.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 07 September 2011

Some people dont want the overtime, and it is their choice, no matter
what CSX tells you.  Your union has betrayed you also, by letting them
force you into OT without a reasonable grace period.  The man doesnt
want the OT it is his choice.  It is worms like you, that make unions
weak.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 07 September 2011

WOW! Someone complaining about making money. Let's see if I had a
choice lodging or going home making 4 hrs overtime. That's a no
brainer I'll take the OT & go home. Once there claim max rest even on
an extra board if you have one minute over 8 hours a person can claim
max rest without penalties. I was wondering when it would get to this
point. Get a yard job work a remote you'll get your 8 no OT.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 06 September 2011

trainmaster told pti we were going to motel but not true. going home.
trainmaster made me $175.00 in overtime, but it my life and i dont want
to waste 4 fucking hours for it. they dont care about you one bit. its
time for the empolyees to shut this shit down
anybody that thinks being railroad would be diffent is full of bs

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 06 September 2011

Kyle,

Outsourcing is something that the Unions have accepted, and the
carriers have resorted to. WHY? They had to. Time is money.

Send the kids to school or hire a pro.

In forgotten days we all took care of our self, as bad as it was. Today
we call in the plumber.

Firemen rode along for years learning every day, Brakemen did the same.

 Few years later they ran the crew, as a team. Time is money and you
got it.

Locomotives are so complicated, GE says for a few bucks we can do it
for you, or do it yourself,,,,, If ya can.

Name: CorrUPtion Blogger
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 04 September 2011

"Labor Day" should be change to "Corporation Day." Infowars.com

Name: KYLE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 02 September 2011

This contracting out deal is what is taking away a lot of our used to be
rr professinal jobs, how many class 1s even have a wreck train crew
today? not very many, most all road derailments are now handled by
hultcher, i have worked around these guys, they don,t care a rats ass
about rr safety and i hate being even near those retards, Put it this
way how would you like it if yer local hosptial contracted the er work
out to a bunch wanna be dr quacks, Not very comforting at all,, hell i
have seen hutcher destroy perfectly good track just to get to the
derailment site itself, Our reg m&e forces yrs ago never did that when
we had reg wreck traines,These hultcher peeps are working on our
company properity & don,t have to know anything about the saftey of rr
workers, they just don,t give a fuck about anything, not even human
lifes and i blame our unions for letting the rr companys get away with
this shit, ie sold out again by the devil.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 01 September 2011

I'm not very smart but I do know this...CSX is paying their contractors
overhead including, but not limited to, payroll and benefits, workman's
comp. and unemployment insurance, bond premium, job costs, and profit
mark up of at least 15%.

Consider this...is it really cheaper to contract the work out? I would
have to say in 9 out of 10 cases, it is not. In the one case it may be,
it will be a very large, fast track infrastructure project which CSX has
neither the manpower, equipment or expertise to do.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 01 September 2011

You may think it is saving money, but when you hire skilled craftsmen
from a signatory contractor it is not cheap.  You may as well face the
facts, some CSX representatives have enough sense to know it will be
done right the first time.  Ask yourself this, "does CSX have a work
force that is skilled enough to do large projects, that require
knowledge of a particular trade."  I have asked myself this, and have
determined that there are a few craftsmen that can, but not many. 
Until CSX wants to pay for a quality apprenticeship and training they
will never have this.  They would also have to increase wages to get
craftsmen from other unions.  These guys make 30% or more than CSX
employees and have better benefits.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 01 September 2011

Railroads would like nothing more than to hire outside contractors it
doesn't matter if they're union or non-union. The railroads savings
would be in not paying benefits. This isn't just a CSX issue it's all
the railroads. They've already tried under national contract
negotiations to replace diesel shop mechanics & laborers, signal
maintainers, and track maintenance with outside contractors. The unions
united fought and won against this threat so far. I'm glad to see
railroads hiring in these crafts to replace retiring workers.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 01 September 2011

Jimmy

Contact your local RRB office. I looked for some info on the website
and couldn't find anything.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 01 September 2011

That is why they make more than us, and have stonger unions.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 01 September 2011

I can guarantee that csx is negligent on who they hire, as far as
contractors.  I can almost guarantee, that the one working unsafe are
non-union.  Which should be grounds for a strike.  I know for a fact if
csx hires Union Pipefitters and Electricians, they will get the best. 
These men and women go through thousands of hours of apprenticeship and
on the job training, that is far superior to the training that CSX
employees recieve.  Thanks

Name: Jimmy
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 01 September 2011

Hello I got 15 years of service on the railroad and currently on the
BNSF. I got my first permanent disability check due to a heart
condition not related to work. I thought I would get extra for my Boy
12 and Girl 8 but it's not showing on the deposit. Are we supposed to
get extra for the kids under 18? 

I was reading through some of the posts and thought you guys should
know =D

Thanks guys!

Jimmy

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 31 August 2011

I would think being contractors for CSX, the contractor would be
responsible for training their employees. I'm sure CSX requires all
contractors to be bonded and have workman's comp.

Perhaps some of the contractor's key people get a rules class. I
wouldn't expect much more than that...look at the training CSX gives
their T&E employees.

Anyone should be able to pass an open book test...if the test wasn't
open book, 90% would fail and CSX knows it!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 31 August 2011

Curioous to know what all the CSX employees think of the CSX contractor
safety training.  I think it isn't quite up to par.  I've been
through training for BNSF and Union Pacific...and it covered a lot more
of the areas that really do apply to what we really deal with and see in
the field.

Thoughts?  I'd like to know (without naming people) if any of you see
contractors not working safely.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 30 August 2011

Goob

Of course we feel compassion. I remember every situation. There are
ones that are more troubling to shake off. Mine is the suicide about 6
years ago. The range of emotions from sadness to anger. I don't dwell
on it just at times try to make sense of it. Never will. The anger
comes from feeling it was selfish this person didn't think ahead that
he was directly involving two others.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 29 August 2011

RRJ 8/22/

Son you are dead wrong, you should know everyone that was struck from
your train, the time, date, and day of the week. That is called
compassion, and care for others. It leads to healing for the family,
you and the RR. After the fact the blame game may go on and on, however
the right thing to do for the family is to feel their pain,(I know you
do) and not separate yourself from a tragedy. I can assure you it takes
a heck of a man to do this.

GOOB

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 27 August 2011

Kyle

The unions have been negligent on getting copies of agreements to new
members. If they haven't recieved one they need to request one. APE
isn't the first person who hasn't a clue about working weekends at
straight time their even more confused with road agreements. A lot of
new employees seem to have come out of the auto industry that were
union under the UAW. Having worked up north back in the '70s around
auto plants the UAW was a strong union at one time. I had a lot of
friends back then that worked for Jeep & GM during the good times. Like
everything else technology wiped out a lot of their jobs. Those
fortunate to still work make decent money and those who got to
retirement did pretty well.

Name: KYLE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 27 August 2011

To ape, it has always been that way, if yer on like reg yard job with
mon&tues off you don,t get time&half for working on sat & sun cuz those
are yer reg work days and not many yard jobs have off on sat&sun 2 busy
days on the rr, road crews have never got time& half for working sat&
sun unless its a less than a 100 mile day, then ya get ot after 8 hrs
on duty, thats why the guys on the locals drag thier feet per say, ie
the night owls to try and get in 12 hrs for the 4 hrs time& half a
stupid thing in my opinion cuz these locals do tie up the rr and drive
the di,s crazy, the rr as far as i can see has always worked on the
reverse incentive work a local, drqag yer feet, work a mileage job then
go like a bat out of hell, get no quit on a yard job, drag yer feet &
don,t get the freight moved in time, the only time i really get a time
& a half day is on a payed holiday & they cut off most yard jobs on
those days, i did get called a few times on my days off to work another
yard job, then yea ya get the time&half for the entire tour of duty, but
hell i knew all this when they hired me cuz they told me what it was all
about, so what i am saying i could have said f the rr i am not working
for a company with those types of work rules, get my drift dude? i wold
not trade my rr job for any other industry, cuz see in a way i love rr
work its in my blood as it is in most rr peeps, i know many who would
sell thier souls to the devil to work for a class 1 rr.....

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 26 August 2011

Isnt it nice working weekends for straight pay,  our union fore fathers,
would roll in their grave if they knew it had came to this.  Way to go
CSX, you have beaten the unions.

Name: CorrUPtion Blogger
E-mail: ill gotten gains
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 26 August 2011

Accumulated wealth of top Railroad Executives:

James A. Young...$500,000,000.00 = shares held at 554,209

Do the math on the following...need more interaction from viewers.

Michael J. Ward...252,675 shares

Charles W Moorman...206,382 shares 

Matthew K. Rose...(BNSF) private company but estimated wealth
$200,000,000.00

Sorry for the ones not listed! They haven't reached the
$100,000,000.00 yet!

Majority of the wealth was accumulated during the last decade while
trying to maintain "deregulation."

How many friends do you have furloughed and have lost jobs to
sub-contractors at the CEO's expense? Si!

Source: Yahoo Finance (company symbol) "Insider Roster."

Name: CorrUPtion Blogger
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 23 August 2011

"Intimidated no more; Libyans (Americans) end Gaddafi's (Corporate
America's) rule!" Media

Name: Hurricane Irene
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 23 August 2011

I am on my up to Jackassville and might pay you a visit since there are
so many complaints of this Nazi Southern Pagan outfit.    Button down
your engines.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 23 August 2011

How can anyone complain about management when under the SSA engineers &
conductors are now working for the same yearly productivity bonus?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 22 August 2011

when cell phones got banned? the dispatching went to hell! you figure it
out yet? rotflmao! its not in Chicago budget to run things right!
 they cant take care of their  own? much less look out for all the
crews coming into Chicago? it might affect their bonus? cabs yup the
kids are still waiting up to  90 minutes for a ride? not in all cases!


so? when ya get stickman? go restricted speed a  very safe speed at all
times okay? get it? slow is safe? safe is good! watch out when doubling
up in cabs! its your ass in court if ya get in an accident? especially
if four or more are in the cab !  SO  KEEP DOING FAVORS , SCREW
YOURSELF AND YOUR FELLOW MAN? STAY BUDDY BUDDY WITH THE BOSSES? KEEP
THAT BONUS GOING INTO THEIR POCKETS?

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 22 August 2011

Kacee had that cursed obsession of youth that she was immortal. Tragic
that an 18 year old lost their life when it was all preventable. Emilee
we don't want to know the names. I don't know any names of those I
unfortunately hit. It's better that way. They put us in harms way not
the other way around. You're blaming the wrong people vent your
frustration somewhere else.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 22 August 2011

Hey Slack:

Right tracks, wrong carrier. Like most they just couldn't wait a
second!

      http://www.theledger.com/article/20070614/NEWS/706140513

Name: CorrUPtion Blogger
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 22 August 2011

Corporate CEO's....Be a patriot! Give-up your ill-gotten gains through
fraud, deceit, union payoffs, lobbying politicians, corporate welfare,
and greed. A "democracy" as we know it; cannot sustain such corporate
malfeasance and expect to survive!  

"Ten million dollars is better in the hands of 100 Americans than 1
corporate CEO." Ralph Nader

Name: slack action
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 21 August 2011

NoMo:  I think Emilee got on the wrong web site... She is as clueless as
Pines.   HMMM Maybe this is Pines's girlfriend...Rambling about
nothing!!!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 21 August 2011

Hey Emilee:

Who is/was Kacee Hanscom and why would we care?

Perhaps you will favor us with the "rest of the story" then maybe we
will share your righteous indignation!

Name: Emilee
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 20 August 2011

Ok Stupid. Kacee Hanscom Was My Sister. Maybe You Dont Know The Whole
Story And How Many People Loved Her. 
She Was Amazing And If You Knew Her You Wouldnt Be Say 'Another One
Bites The Dust' That Post Pissed Me Of Rite There. 
You Need To Get Ur Head Out Of The Clouds And Look Around For A Change.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 20 August 2011

Hey APE 1-10:

Save your breath...the senior and mid management are so far removed
from the day-to-day operations and the hourly employees they can't
figure out what you're talking about.

The shareholders only care about their return...they could care less
how management does it, as long as it gets done.

They've pulled just about all the rabbits out of the hat...any real
growth in the future will have to come from productivity improvements.
Which means the contract employees and front line management will have
to perform...no more smoke and mirrors!

Name: SNAFU
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 30+ years
Posted: 20 August 2011

CSX runs on Management by Objectives designed by Mike Ward 
Harvard Business Graduate.  No one know what the objectives are just
that their objective is the most important and screw everyone else.  

(1.)My numbers are what gets me more money.   

(2.)All the NS Rejects that moved over here to run the place is running
the transportation with Intimidation and Firing people to make examples
for others to get in line with the Nazi Group.

(3.)Hire the Dumbest Greenest person who will drop down and say YES.

(4.)Nazi REDI Center is just a Nazi training camp getting money from
taxpayers.

(5.)Nazi Quota System and hit list is out to take care of everything
and make employees be scared of their job.  


Until the MAJOR Stockholders demand a change there will be none.  

Ward has the board all tied up but the Nazi Group will get him if given
the chance, they already tried he just did not know it.   

Children's Fund was not able to pull it out or you might have Tony as
the CEO.

SNAFU

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 20 August 2011

Attn CSX sharholders/owners... the money your wasting hiring managers
off the street is killing this company.  If I were CEO I could make
this company soar, so much wasted money on idiots.  My CSX Slogan:
Safety, Common Sense, Productive, On time.  99.9% of your union
employees just want to do there job the best they can while your
manager harasses them on crap common sense takes care of to justify
there mostly meaningless jobs.

Name: joke
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 20-30 years
Posted: 20 August 2011

Traindispatcher,

Maybe you guys should get together and picket the work order
department! They are a major joke.. Dont know how many times we have
called them and heard laughing and screaming going on in the
background. Then they send us a workorder with no info on the cars
saying they cant find any after the train just ran 200 miles across
their rails past readers. Scares the hell out of me they cant keep
track of their trains and the commodity on them. I know for a fact a
crew sat for 6 hours waiting for a work order. The chief finally got
pissed and ordered the crew to run on someone elses papers! So train
was out on your system late as hell!   CSX HOW TOMORROW MOVES!  DAMB
RIGHT!  YESTERDAYS FREIGHT MOVING TODAY!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 10-20 years
Posted: 20 August 2011

I love how they cut off our chiefs, then the whole god damn great lakes
div turns into a pile of shit.   Then they bring in 8 people from Jax
to sit with us trying to figure out what is wrong.  Just fucking
stupid.

Name: King
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 20 August 2011

Pissed,

I've heard what a piece of work this Conners is.  He's told his
managers if they don't get 15 failures a month, their fired.  I
understand there are several openings for train masters on the Great
Lakes Division right now.

When one of Conner's company officers harassed several women, and they
complained to the Ethics Hotline, Conners gave his company officer a 5%
pay raise, then sent him to another yard to work, while things "cooled
down". 

Conners doesn't want to run a fair or ethical work place, if it keeps
him from getting his bonus.  He wants to run this place as Tony Ingram
and David Brown taught him, using the techniques they learned on the
NS.  Fear and Intimidation.  Sad thing is, with as many openings as
there are on the Great Lakes Division for Train Masters, even they're
running for cover from Conners to other divisions.

Name: Redneck Racer
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 20 August 2011

ATTENTION LAFAYETTE YARDS, DANNY SPENCER JR IS AT IT AGAIN

Engineer Danny Spencer Jr is busy trying to work his magic at
Lafayette, Indiana. 

Danny's actively working to go get the North Pool jobs that currently
run between Lafayette to Chicago, changed.  He wants them to run from
Avon directly to Chicago, eliminating changing crews at Lafayette all
together.  

It turns out that Danny's upset that he can't hold the job his Daddy
once held because the younger protected employees are working the job
he so wants to work, before he goes back into management.  If Danny can
get the job changed, such as having the job run from Avon to Chicago,
its considered a new job with common right seniority, eliminating the
protected employees at Lafayette.  

Danny wants to live the legacy, and run full time over the rails that
his Daddy use to run, before he was fired as an engineer.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 19 August 2011

CSX SAFE AND ON TIME

CSX KEEPS THE TROOPS IN LINE THAT SOME DO NOT LIKE OR TRUST THEN PAYS
OFF RATS, CARD PLAYING (GAMBLING),GOLFING & DRINKING BUDDIES
(PLUS WHO KNOW WHAT ELSE)

THEN PETS MAKE MORE MONEY WHEN THERE ARE SHORTAGES OF ENGINEERS.


MAYBE YOUR OR OUR RF IS ON DRUGS AND WILL HAVE ANOTHER EFFINGHAM
DISASTER ( KILLING 5 T&E)ON HIS HANDS INSTEAD OF BLAMING IT ON ANOTHER
RF. HE CAN GET A BIG BUY OUT TO LEAVE TO PAY OFF HIS DEBTS. JUST LIKE A
PONZI SCHEME ON AMERICAN GREED.

DUMBING DOWN AVON EVEN MORE CSX STYLE

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 18 August 2011

Hey Sponge:

Thanks...we need a playbill to keep up with the CSX Allstar Review!

Name: Spongebob
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 17 August 2011

NoMo,  Danny Spencer Jr. is not working at Avon, he is working at
Lafayette, Indiana.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 August 2011

Hey Suzannah:

It's important at you age to get that beauty sleep ;).

What part of Alabama? Didn't you just get Danny Spencer? Hope Avon
isn't becoming the dumping ground for CSX have nots or has beens!

Spread the wealth...CSX has plenty...

Name: suzannah
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for N/A
Posted: 17 August 2011

NOTICE.....

Looks like there is going to be another change at avon. Looks like
superintendant is leaving and being replaced by another one from
alabama. The assistant division manager is taking a hike too.  Just
what we need.... A new sheriff in town.  Seems Connors is bringing in
his own troops.  As for the comments on the idiotic testing that they
are doing, as I have said a million times before...as long as the
school is open they have to have a turnover rate to justify hiring. If
they want to keep getting financial help from the feds they have to
keep the new guys working. Right now they shouldnt have a problem with
that considering the amount of people on the street for"rules"
violations. I got called 4 times in the middle of the night to fill
jobs that they couldnt find engineers for but yet they have engineers
set back as conductors. I have to have my sleep disturbed and come to
work worn out because they have a piss poor plan in place for
manpower.... I asked an RF yesterday if he thought they had enough
people out of service to justify bring new hires to the yard and if
they would still have their jobs when everyone finally got back to
work.... no comment. Im guessing they plan on having enough people
pulled out of service to justify the arrival of the new guys.  OH on
another note....Looks like csx doesnt plan on to many more women
showing up. New building at Avon pretty much sent that message.  Couple
hundred lockers for men, 36 for women.  4 shower stall for men, 1 for
the women.....etc...etc.... HHMMMM.....sorts makes me feel special!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 August 2011

Kyle and RRJ.

Ya got my role, make ya think, and try to keep ya honest.

Oh-- by the way Kyle, ya owe me your last dime that you wagered.

I came from a Union family and joined a Rail Union before you were
born.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years
Posted: 15 August 2011

About the HOBO stealing lunches. After WWII it was found that former
POW'S and concentration camp survivors had a tendency to hoard food,
such as being in a mess hall and stuffing extra food under clothes,
even though it was unlikely that they would be in a starvation
situation in the next few days. If this HOBO had been very hungry
before it is likely that experience had left an indelible impression on
his mind, making it very difficult to avoid stealing lunches. If you
were hungry as a small kid, or take in a stray dog that has been
hungry, you may very well have a greater concern about food than is
logical.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 20-30 years
Posted: 15 August 2011

RRJ

It makes sense to Davy ShitBag Brown and his Nazi Gay Brownshirts. 

Cause confusion and make catch 22 situations to make some quotas to
find out who is the most loyal Brownshit shirt. 

CSX Trainwreck on the horizon

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 14 August 2011

???

I guess you didn't have any concerns other than the lack of safety
concerns. I didn't get your point. There are a lot of issues at CSX
biggest safety concern the harrassment from management. If people have
to be constantly vigilent that their not making some minor infraction
because of TM 's hiding in the bushes then their not totally focused
on the job. I went to a union meeting this month it is ridicules what
is going on out there with TM's putting tree sticks at clearance
points where a yellow tye is absent when crew is stopping to line a
switch ect...multi-tasking a new infraction. If a crew member is making
a move an another train passes on an adjacent track he tells the other
train they looked alright their charged with multi-tasking. Who makes
up this crap? A conductor got 15 days in the street. Another poster on
here made mention an engineer is being charged with stopping the train
to relieve themselves. On what grounds can CSX object that definitely
is multi-tasking if the train is still moving with the engineer vacant
from his seat. Nothing makes any sense.

Name: ???
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 20-30 years
Posted: 13 August 2011

Guess company is doing everything right!!!!  This safety site has turned
into everything but safety issues.... Union issues need to go to a chat
room unless there are safety issues the union is trying to take care
of.... HMMMM wonder if that is actually happening?

Name: kyle
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 13 August 2011

thanks dudes for the input about the goober dude,I did not know but now
i do,bet my last dime he is also a neo-con repubtard, funny though
about dudes like him, they hate the unions but yell bloddy murder when
they get FIRED or called in on the carpet, ie-hipocrites.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 13 August 2011

UTU SUCKS

The UTU is trying to set the pattern again. If the membership votes
against it this month will the UTU force it down their throats like
they have in the past. Just look at what happened with the UTU/CSX SSA.
Thank's for the info from the BMWE site it revealed a lot of the UTU's
lies. I know the BLET & BMWE aren't falling for it. Last thing I read
both are taking it to the limits with an impasse thru mediation. It
might just end up in a strike & a Presidential Emergency Board (PEB)
being enacted. That hasn't happened in a long time.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 13 August 2011

Kyle

That's just Goober. He can be cantankerious at times. He's like a
gnat buzzing around your head that you keep swatting at but can't seem
to get rid of. lol. He's been on this site for quite a few years. His
biggest gripes he doesn't believe job protection insurance pays and
the unions are a waste of time. Sounds like a Wisconsin republican.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 13 August 2011

Hey Kyle:

That wasn't a non-employee...that was Goober!

Name: kyle
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 13 August 2011

To other non employee who bashed my yrs of service, yes i do have 22 yrs
on the rr, I said i am new to this site not the rr, I find yer lack of
faith disturbing.

Name: UTU SUCKS
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 12 August 2011

Once again the UTU are shoving another BAD DEAL up our asses with this
PISS POOR DEAL! I don't care about the signing bonuses or raises but
do care about paying more into Medical. This company bragged about the
record profits but seems to me bought off the UTU Leadership by trying
to shove this bullshyt onto us by disguising it as an excellent Deal,
are the kidding???!!!. I have read the propaganda and Lies from the UTU
as well read the articles on the BMWE.ORG which clearly seperates the
Lies from the Truth!. I encourage all my fellow Sisters and Brothers to
vote NO on this Sellout move!!!!!!!!.

Name: not  fooled
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 20-30 years
Posted: 12 August 2011

PINES....


Are you a new pines or the old one who has been on here for 10 years
reaking havoc and stirring shit along with blaming the crews for
killing people out here that were stupid enough to run the gates?

Name: slack action
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 12 August 2011

Pines: 

It is good to see you asking questions, that is the only way you will
learn about the railroad and how it operates.  PTC is Positive Train
Control.

Name: pissed
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 12 August 2011

NEWS FLASH>>>


Enough about stock and more about safety.......Seems the new Division
manager for the greatlakes divison got pissed off because an engineer
stopped his train to use the bathroom. Conductor was not licensed to
run but apparently this moron thinks its okay to go down in the
bathroom and leave the controls unattended while the engineer takes a
leak or dump!  Waiting to see what the FRA thinks about the new
sheriffs additude.... Thank god there was a conductor on board. Can you
imagine what its going to be like if they actually get away with turning
road trains into one man crews and you cant stop to pee!  

CBS NEWS FLASH!!!  Late last night a csx train hit an abandoned car
left on the tacks causing the train to derail and spill thousands of
gallons of toxic chemicals. Engineer had no comment other than he didnt
see a thing because he was taking a shit.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 12 August 2011

Pines

If one only reads about CSX not the other railroads they haven't a
clue. Stock prices if it's up all are up same way when there down
definitely a pattern. Fuel surcharges all railroads are involved under
the American Association of Railroads (AAR) they set the industry
standards. These petty gripes about CSX mean nothing when all are doing
the same. All railroads are linked together the biggest difference the
east coast railroads are little more dependent on coal than the west
coast. That's changing with intermodule containers being shipped
across country it's a growing sector.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 12 August 2011

http://seekingalpha.comarticle/280623-csx-s-ceo-discusses-q2-2011-results-earnings-call-transcript
http://seekingalpha.com/article/280623-csx-s-ceo-discusses-q2-2011-results-earnings-call-transcript?part=qanda

 Kyle ---I thought you would know about the real railroadin' talked
about in these articles.You know the CSX bubble head stock talk. Tell
me about  just the 52 %'s given in the opening statement would you. I
rewad it that CSX jacked up their prices like 16% in 90 days and that
there are like 450 conductors sitting around Michael Wards pool 6
months a year drinking majitos waiting for the call. 
 '''I did mention we bring on 450 incremental additional conductors
in the second half of the year, and that's for more volume to handle
the business growth we've seen.'''
Export coal volume grew year-over-year as demand was strong for U.S.
coal shipments to Europe, Asia and South America.
Now turning to our Intermodal results. Intermodal revenue increased 24%
to $376 million in the quarter, driven by an 8% increase in volume and a
15% increase in revenue per unit. International volume increased on
continued U.S. economic growth and new international customers
attracted to our portfolio of service and network offerings.
fuel recovery 
capitalized
Moving to the next slide, let's discuss the impact of fuel in the
quarter. Total fuel cost increased 42% or $127 million versus last
year. If you look at the chart on the left, CSX's average cost per
gallon for locomotive fuel climbed to $3.21, an increase of 39%. This
increase in fuel price accounted for $112 million of higher expense, as
you can see on the table on the right.
Finally, as you look further to the right, the impact of higher fuel
costs increased our fuel reimbursement $120 million in the quarter.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 11 August 2011

Kyle is somewhat interesting as a new hire.. 20-30 Naw.

Lie to me once and ya are a liar forever.

Name: KYLE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 11 August 2011

Yea sort of new to this site, but i have seen the stupid things some
peeps do when it comes to trespassing on rr property, First 1 i seen 2
months on the job when a gang of teens in a car followed our head end
on a side street then when they got to the rr crossing they pulled out
right in front of us, crossing lights flashing, horn,bell the whole
works& we were going 40 mph, the track speed, We thank god missed them
by a eyelash, Now thats a stuipd thing they done, seems like there is
never a cop around when they are really needed, But just drive down the
road even st as a board at 3 am going to work and ya get pulled over for
suspect DUI,Had that happen 2 times already going to work! Then the cops
want to know what you are doing on the road at 3 am, Ie like ya tell
them i am going to work or just got off duty, Its hard to explaine to
them the hrs we work & were we work, They don,t know that some peeps do
not work a 9-5 shift, they do not understand this stuff, in fact they
don,t know dick shit about rr operations but they think they do,LOL,
And you talk about crazy freaks, A cond who i know told me he was
shoving a 120 cars of coke to a outbound track 1 night at 2 am and this
nut layed his head down right on the rail 200 ft in front of him and we
know what happened, That cond had to be treated in a hosptial for shock
and did not return to work for a month all because some moron decided to
committ hary carrie on rr property, i have had many close calls but so
far no fatals, don,t know if i would be able to handle a thing like
that cuz its always in the back of my mind,, But yea i do get a LOL at
these cops when you go into emegency and tell you to get this train off
the crossings right now, My how stuipd they really are.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 11 August 2011

Speaking of cut in half Kyle ---Maybe the FEDS will cut these CSX brass
bubble heads sentences in half if they plead out on their insider
trading charges.

What is PTC by the way?


Executives

David Baggs - Assistant Vice President of Treasury and Investor
Relations

David Brown - Chief Operating Officer and Executive Vice President

Oscar Munoz - Chief Financial Officer, Executive Vice President, Chief
Financial Officer of CSX Transportation Inc. and Executive Vice
President of CSX Transportation Inc

Michael Ward - Chairman, Chief Executive Officer, President, Chairman
of Executive Committee, Chief Executive Officer of CSX Transportation
Inc and President of CSX Transportation Inc

Clarence Gooden - Chief Commercial Officer, Executive Vice President of
Sales and Marketing, Chief Commercial Officer of CSX Transportation Inc
and Executive Vice President of CSX Transportation Inc
http://seekingalpha.comarticle/280623-csx-s-ceo-discusses-q2-2011-results-earnings-call-transcript
While these measures indicate excellent progress, we were deeply
saddened by the loss of 3 employees. These tragedies underscore CSX's
ultimate goal will remain 0 injuries in train accidents.
And then separately, with the Highway Bill proposal suggesting that the
timing for PTC could get delayed, are you planning to delay any spending
on PTC?
http://seekingalpha.com/article/280623-csx-s-ceo-discusses-q2-2011-results-earnings-call-transcript?part=qanda
Michael Ward
...On the PTC, I'm sorry I forgot about that one. There is some
discussion of potentially extending that. We would not oppose that. We
think it would allow more orderly implementation of PTC. But at this
time, it's just a proposal. So we are proceeding as if the law, as it
exists today to be deployed by 2015, is still the target and we are
deploying on that basis. Should they decide an extension does make
sense, obviously, we would change that implementation plan.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 10 August 2011

Hey Kyle:

You're fairly new to the site...Pines is not.

Scroll back on the safety thread a few years, at least early 2005 and
study up...you'll save yourself a few million keystrokes!

That goes for the rest of you new guys too!

Take it from someone who knows...

Name: KYLE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 10 August 2011

You PINES are stupid, I live in the area were the DRUNK got run over,
The train was waiting for the signal to come up and when it did they
started to pull Its the dumb asses own fault for trying to take a short
cut home by crawling under the cars, yea he got a short cut alright &
its his own damm stupid fault, You must think the rr must put guards on
every car on a 140 car train, NOT, that will never happen, if peeps do
not have common sence then thats their own damm fault, They get what
they deserve like in this case, CUT in half, I fell no remorse for
morons who do stupid things that endanger thier lifes, Hell i work for
the rr and don,t even trust going under rail cars with blue flag
protection.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 10 August 2011

What's Mikey Ward making $10 mil a year which includes stock options
have to do with anything? In financial circles that's pretty mediocre.
I'm more concerned with bankers & Wall St CEO's making $100+ mil a
year. Stock market flops they still get that obscene amount. CEO or any
exec's compensation should be based on performance not a gimme like it
is today. Wards & most railroad execs compensation is actually based on
performance.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 10 August 2011

"""Honda experimenting with putting an air bag on motorcycles"""

What's that got to do with Michael Ward making $10 million a year and
no road guards on a CSX train sitting across a public crossing?

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 August 2011

Hey RRJ:

If your wife or girlfriend were with you, wouldn't that be considered
an air bag?

I see your point!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 09 August 2011

Goob

I remember watching a video of Honda experimenting with putting an air
bag on motorcycles. Not a good idea. lol

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 August 2011

Hey Robert:

Forget your meds?

This is the CSX-sucks Safety board...do you really think any one really
cares? 

Nothing has changed in the years you've been gone so I wouldn't
expect too much. In fact, I wouldn't expect anything except a lot of
flack.

Did you get flooded this spring/summer?

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 August 2011

The 5 brasses $50 million salaries the last three years should help pay
their negligent homicide legal fees for the killing that the problem
has been known about for 180 years and they did NOTHING. 

IF YOU HAVE TIME CSX SAFETY.  What kind of suckapaw BS is that?

http://phx.corporate-ir.net/External.File?item=UGFyZW50SUQ9ODYzNTB8Q2hpbGRJRD0tMXxUeXBlPTM=&t=1
What’s gratifying about this business is not just that we’ve been doing
it for more than 180 years
http://www.csx.com/index.cfm/responsibility/message-from-our-chairmain/
Name Year
Salary
($)
Bonus
($)
Stock
Awards1
($)
Option
Awards
($)
Non-Equity
Incentive Plan
Compensation2
($)
Change in
Pension
Value and
Nonqualified
Deferred
Compensation
Earnings3
($)
All Other
Compensation4
($)
Total
($)
Michael J. Ward
Chairman, President
and CEO
2010 $1,100,000 — $4,287,570 — $2,112,000 $1,608,440 $158,642 $
9,266,652
2009 $1,100,000 — $4,581,456 — $1,200,000 $3,101,352 $137,598
$10,120,406
2008 $1,058,333 — $4,000,012 — $2,032,000 $4,333,389 $211,530
$11,635,264
Oscar Munoz
Executive Vice President and
CFO
2010 $ 650,000 — $1,607,873 — $ 936,000 $ 139,558 $ 50,404 $ 3,383,835
2009 $ 650,000 — $1,718,054 — $ 535,000 $ 59,483 $ 22,429 $ 2,984,966
2008 $ 629,167 — $1,500,029 — $ 906,000 $ 69,330 $ 41,251 $ 3,145,777
David A. Brown
Executive Vice President
and COO
CSX Transportation, Inc.
2010 $ 525,000 — $1,607,873 — $ 732,375 $ 801,125 $ 22,455 $ 3,688,828
— — — — — — — — —
— — — — — — — — —
Clarence W. Gooden
Executive Vice President
and CCO
2010 $ 550,000 — $1,607,873 — $ 792,000 $ 814,125 $ 69,279 $ 3,833,277
2009 $ 550,000 — $1,718,054 — $ 450,000 $1,377,752 $ 30,499 $
4,126,305
2008 $ 529,167 — $1,500,029 — $ 738,188 $1,528,693 $ 48,675 $
4,344,752
Ellen M. Fitzsimmons
Senior Vice President
General Counsel
and Corporate Secretary
2010 $ 500,000 — $1,071,879 — $ 620,000 $ 443,818 $ 22,339 $ 2,658,036
2009 $ 500,000 — $1,145,380 — $ 365,000 $ 706,338 $ 25,234 $ 2,741,952
2008 $ 479,167 — $1,000,019 — $ 613,333 $ 202,619 $ 37,747 $ 2,332,885

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 August 2011

Pines______ Safety Man
Hell no one want's seat belts on a Motorcycle,or Crash helmets for all
boaters. 
Dang-- be happy, Rails have so many safety requirements now, no one
could carry the load of your's.

Based on your post, guess a safety car on both ends, with 10 or so
folks that walk the train. Meet in the middle could be the solution.

Or better yet, fence it all, just like our friends to the south.

Then someone get's whacked, Dang still not safe enough for YOU.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 08 August 2011

Pines

Bad example. You brought up a document of a case involving a BNSF track
worker. What's that have to do with a road train & train crews? There
is a rule on CSX that the conductor inspect the train while sitting if
time allows. There isn't a rule that the conductor continuosly safe
guards the train against irresponsible actions of trespessors as is the
case with someone crossing over between two cars. The article doesn't
state where in the train he crossed over the front, middle, near the
end.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 07 August 2011

3. BNSF Safety Rule 1.2.7 provides in part: "Don't perform a task
alone that can only be performed by two or more people."

http://www.leagle.com/xmlResult.aspx?xmldoc=In%20MOCO%2020110729305.xml&docbase=CSLWAR3-2007-CURR

The RULES would imply that it might take 50 people to move a train to
KNOW what was in between the cars before the wheels moved. Thereby
negligent homicide on the railroad and crew. Anyone who thinks
differently would be the greasy spot on humanity!!!

Name: slack action
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 20-30 years
Posted: 06 August 2011

RRJ: You will have to explain to Pines what 3 step protection is.  He
thinks 3 step protection is an an engr doing a 3 step jig inside the
eng or a dos see doe.  You know how clueless he is...

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 06 August 2011

Pines, you are an idiot, the guy was trespassing, drunk, and happened to
grease the rails. I doubt that the crew new he was crossing over the
trains. Please go away.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 06 August 2011

Pines, 

All that article shows is alcohol & trains don't mix well together.
CSX & the train crew did nothing wrong. The man made a blurred by
alcohol decision (toxicology to be determined later) to cross over
between two cars. Did he get 3 step from the engineer?

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 06 August 2011

Hey Robert:

Good morning...good to see your back in form.

The best comment on this, is no comment at all!

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 06 August 2011

So IF the railroad killers KNOW that something might be between the cars
and did nothing to check before rolling the train where are the
NEGLIGIENT HOMICIDE CHARGES on the railroad killers and the dirty FEDS
in charge???

Somerset man struck, killed by train in Meyersdale

Read more: Somerset man struck, killed by train in Meyersdale -
Pittsburgh Tribune-Review
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/breaking/s_749330.html#ixzz1UDjfrooR

A Somerset County man died early this morning after being struck by a
train in Meyersdale.

State police said James Roy Livengood, 55, of Meyersdale had left a bar
in the borough and was walking alone on Main Street about 1:30 a.m.
Police said Livengood apparently was heading home when he attempted to
cross the CSX tracks where a train was idling.

Livengood apparently was between two cars when the train began moving,
police said. He was trapped under the train, which began dragging him
as it moved forward.

Police said the death has been ruled accidental.

No one witnessed the accident, police said. Investigation is
continuing, with toxicology tests pending.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for N/A
Posted: 05 August 2011

I think I got a job at the Baltimore Coal Pier, in Curtis Bay MD.  Can
anyone tell me if this place is as bad as everyone says it is.  This is
a tough decision, because I have another job making more money offered
to me.

Name: dave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 05 August 2011

While I concur with you guys on the east coast, try working on an old
SD40 out in Vegas without A/C.  It's not only CSX, but the UP and
others as well.

Name: mark
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 05 August 2011

Joe if that was true you would not be able to turn the air on or off.

Name: Joe
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 04 August 2011

Lucky.

The Engineers Single System Agreement (The SSA) requires all NEW
locomotives have Air Conditioning. It does not require that the AC
units be in working order, just that the new locomotives must be bought
with air conditioner units on them. 

The others who have replied to you are right.  Its not about you and I
being comfortable in this extreme heat.  We employees being happy and
healthy is not even a consideration.  The air conditioning is about
keeping the computers cool so that they will work.  (also keeping the
ERat system working, so that it can blow you in, should you make a
mistake)

I haven't had a chance to look at the new conductors agreement that
the UTU is trying to promote as the latest and the greatest thing since
sliced bread, but I doubt that Air Conditioning in the locomotive cabs
is even mentioned.

I

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 04 August 2011

RRJ,
You are doing better, guess your reading skills are improving.
GOOB

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 04 August 2011

Goob

I never said anything about TM's asking people to move slower or
faster. Their concern was they needed help because trains were backed
up.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 04 August 2011

Lucky

Why didn't the engineer put off the ticket? There's nothing in
writing stating the conductor is the only one that can do it. Air
conditioning wasn't put on the locomotives for the train crews it's
about the electronic devices. I don't think it's a requirement for
the railroads to provide it. At least 2 years it wasn't most of the
road switchers, rock trains, locals, yard jobs were still using GP40,
GP40-2, GP30M ect...none had air conditioning jobs where a 4 axle was
required to work inside an industry.

Name: lucky
E-mail: luckyjayb@yahoo.com
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 03 August 2011

Well I had a heat stroke on a engine due to the company ordering me and
my engineer to take a wide body with a broke a/c when it was 115
degrees outside by the heat index and we told everybody of the
situation. Now a week later, I get charged with "stealing time" since
I forgot to put off my ticket and called payroll to fix it. Now
everybody knows how this company is whenit comes to FRA reportable
injuries!!!! This is a load of crap. Im looking at dismisal due to
their negligence!!!!

Name: Cotton
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 30+ years
Posted: 03 August 2011

I am so happy my time is up ! Was it worth puttin 30 + years ? Better
than social unsecurity . Hope y'all are havin fun

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 01 August 2011

RRJ, 30 year Hogger.

Are ya kidding slow down, TM's are Begging. You are listening to your
friend, and buying in 100%

No TM is begging anyone to speed up or slow down. It is called an
update, nice to know, not need to know.

:Leverage as you call it has worked in the past, yep real good with the
Caboose, and the train crew, guess we can call that an accomplishment.

It is time to partner with the pay check, cut the outsiders out and
have a really profitable career. If not, life goes on looking for a
deal, paying those under serving, and going slower and slower.

Wake up CSX has the pay check, get on board. Or keep on doing the age
old deal, pay the Union, and bitch. oh by the way without the union ya
get 2 retirement programs. Load that one in your Pipe.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 30 July 2011

I DONT BELIEVE THEY HAVE DONE MUCH, BUT I HEARD THEY FIRED A GUY FOR
STEALING. THAT PLACE IS A JOKE, IT IS LIKE A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY. I CAN
ONLY IMAGINE THAT THERE ARE PLENTY OF DRUGS GOING ON AT THAT PLACE.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 30 July 2011

does anyone know if CSX has done anything about the drug problems at the
baltimore coal pier.

Name: Edmund Muskie
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 29 July 2011

You can sum it up with one word as to why CSX will probably never win
the E.H. Harriman "Gold" award ;  Conrail.

Name: robofuq
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 28 July 2011

Every weekend, every terminal I go by is a parking lot, due to manpower
shortage (for over a year now).

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 27 July 2011

Robofuq

Then people need to go by 100% rules compliance slow it down. I know
that has been posted a hundred times on here before. Spoke with a
friend today TM's have been in the crew rooms begging people to help
them out of a mess. It seems they have trains backed up for hundreds of
miles thousands of cars sitting still. Whose fault is it? Definitely not
train crews, dispatchers ect...no one to blame but management. That's
when the unions should be able to create deals to put an end to the
hostile enviroment. It's called leverage. It was an effective tool in
the past.

Name: robofuq
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 27 July 2011

I don't think there is much we can do to change the "step and fetch/do
as your told" mentality that has defined "management" under the
current regime.  As long as record profits continue, Jacksonville will
believe their strategy is working.

Name: KYLE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 27 July 2011

RRJ is correct, no one today even whats to go to union meeting, then
they bitch about things the rr is doing to them, Its very simple, in
larger numbers we can beat them, the men-women today just take things
for granit, if we don,t fight these bastards, then they win, its paline
& simple, in unity there is strenth without that we are dumb sheep who
keep getting led to the slaughter house of the corprate billionair pigs
who care a rats ass about you & me, just keep that in mind.

Name: Safety First in Indy?
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years
Posted: 27 July 2011

CSX has helped make the streets of Indianapolis less safe by allowing
Track Inspector Adam "A-Crash" Flowers to return to work this week.
  He was seen trolling around Hawthorn in his conrail coupe.  He said
his dad and Ralph pulled some strings and favors to get him back to
work and he even had help getting his driver's license reinstated.  I
guess it helps if your daddy is a union rep.
  It is another classic case of how CSX's rules and policies are this
way for certain people and another way for the others.

  These favors/strings pulled for Mr. Flowers only weakens the union
since it's obvious even though we pay our dues, we all do not get the
same representation.
  Several people are wondering how and why he was allowed to return to
work.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 26 July 2011

Rail unions are weak because no one wants to get involved anymore. It's
like the arguement in congress over ending entitlements people think
they are entitled just because they belong to a union. It doesn't work
that way. It takes a lot of work from the members. Union heads work for
the members not the other way around. What has hurt most over the past
5-6 years is people not knowing how a union operates plus the fact
railroads have been hiring people who didn't come from railroad
families. No one to show them the ropes. Most of my claims were paid in
a reasonable amount of time till about 5-6 years ago. What has been the
contributing factor? The large amount of hiring that has taken place.
That's the only conclusion I can see.

Name: Tom Eagleton
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 20-30 years
Posted: 24 July 2011

Did anyone read about the high speed train wreck in China?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years
Posted: 23 July 2011

RR's don't want to get rid of unions. If no union existed then someone
might start them. The carriers want WEAK unions. WEAK unions are like
crabgrass in lawn - they convince you that you have a lovely lawn but
they prevent good grass from growing by taking the space and food away
from the good stuff. And, although top management wouldn't care,
remember middle managers get MORE money than they would outside in most
cases, so they NEED to point out that an engineer / maintainer / etc.
gets x dollars, so I need 1.5 x dollars. When conductors make $30k a
year, trainmasters will make $35k.

As to non union short lines...they do make less money and benefits but
I have noticed that many short line employees DO NOT want to leave the
short line environment for a class 1 RR. Less pay but also less
hostility towards employees by management.

Name: KYLE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 23 July 2011

FOX news is not a news station, Its a right wing propaganda station & it
might just go down the tubes now since its owner rupert murdock got
caught wire tapping, ha ha could not have happened to a nicer guy, FOX
news is doing excatly what the nazies did in the 1930,s, as the retoric
comming out of fox is the same as hitlers & heir gobbles, they would
both be very proud of fox lies news, heir gobbles said it best, just
keep telling the big lies & the public will soon except it as the
truth,, cuz it happened in 2010, how soon we forget what all the
republicans ran on, jobs, jobs, jobs, and since then they have not
proposed 1 bill to make new jobs, All they have done since they got in
power was go after womens rights, gays, mexicans, blacks,unions, ssi,
medicare just to name a few & they keep defending the bush tax cuts for
the corprate billionairs who just keep out soursing our jobs to places
like china& tawian for that cheap child slave labor,That my friends is
what you voted for when you let those asswipes at fox news do the
thinking for you,GOD gave you a brain,USE IT!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 23 July 2011

fucking cry babies.......why dont you guys just stick it right in their
fucking ass to get yours....thats what i do.....knocking down 100k a
year

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Engine repair, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 22 July 2011

JACKSONVILLE, Fla., July 19, 2011 – CSX Corporation (NYSE: CSX) today
announced second quarter net earnings of $506 million, or $0.46 per
share, versus $414 million, or $0.36 per share, in the same period last
year.       This is your republican based company telling its employees
they dont need a raise!!!!

Name: KYLE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 22 July 2011

All republicans hate unions, they always have hated unions cuz that cuts
into thier billions of dollars,Just look what scot walker in wisconsin
is doing, union busting which has nothing to do with a balanced state
budget, its all a big favor for the rich bastards like the koch brots&
the caplist fat cats on wall street who are not satasfied with
millions, they want billons & trillions now at the expenise of the
common workers & as long as you dumb sheep keep voting for them you
will keep getting the big prong right up the arse, yea you fall for all
that religion, guns, god, all that bs lies they tell you to get you to
vote for them, then when they get in power has it has just been proved,
its a slame dunk right up the working mans arse, & you can bet yer last
dime if the big 5 class 1 rr,s can do away with the unions you kow dam
well you will be working under the same work rules as the short line
scabs, half the wages& no OT or bennys, I know a few who work for short
lines, they make 10 a hr with no ot or benifits, if thats what you peeps
want on the class 1 roads,then keep voting for them and if you do you
are fools who got brain washed by morons like beck & r limpballs,2
peeps who belong in asylums. God gave you a brain, use it!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 22 July 2011

Let me see...Alabama is a "Right to Work" State, has been forever.
Until the the mid 80s the only party you could be elected from was the
Democratic Party.

The Republicans are pro business and certainly less friendly than the
Democrats. However, if you want to blame someone or something  for the
current state of labor relations, blame greed. The Democrats,
Republicans and management are all greedy.

This is not new...I have a Brother-in-Law that was Executive
V.P. of Sales for Burroughs Corp. and was front runner to replace the
CEO. He resigned in the early 90s at 45 because he didn't like the
ethics (greed)of American business. At the time his salary and bonus
was over $750K and his stock options were worth $2.5 million plus a
year.

You just don't quit a gig like that over little shit!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 22 July 2011

Right to work law states only hurt the workers if they allow it. It
doesn't stop unions. In Virginia Coors has a brewery in Elkton which
is non-union but Coors plants in other states are union. Some people
tried to unionize. The plant management started their fear campaign
threats of closing down the brewery (Bullschidt Coors built it less
that 10 years earlier) ect.... Seeing most of these people were
ignorant of their rights and had nothing before the plant opened it's
located in a small town in the Blue Ridge Mnts they got scared and took
the bluff voted against unions. The organizers that tried to get a union
were fired. Some people don't want to be union. The railroads fall
under federal law not state laws it doesn't matter what CSX or the
other railroads want. The railroads selling/leasing track to shortlines
is a form of union busting. They still get the car loads at a cheaper
price by non-union labor. Railroads have tried to contract out work
like track work, signal maintainers ect...a form of union busting. Time
seems to repeat itself things happening today were going on 80 years
ago.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Engine repair, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 21 July 2011

You are right, and that is just what I said before "80-90%, are
uneducated and are voting against their own rights to being a union
brother".  Everyone will soon be out of a job, if things dont change. 
Most of the southern states are RIGHT TO WORK states.  
  Stop believing everything you here on FOX NEWS, and look at some
facts from other sources.  Republican ran states are either already
RIGHT TO WORK STATES, or they are trying to get petitions signed to
make them a RIGHT TO WORK STATE.
  Do you know what this means?   Everyone either has a right to be in a
union or not.  So some at your place of employment may be union or may
not be.  What does CSX want?  Well as a republican based company, I
would leave that up to you to make that call.
  In the big picture, your wages will decrease and the rich will get
richer.  If you are going to vote, at least take the time and take a
serious approach on who you are voting for.  This is very simple
Republicans and CSX are against UNIONS.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 21 July 2011

Is it really the republicans, and their supporters that are causing the
Union problems. Or the old head experienced Railroaders that run the
Unions? 

As far as I know the unions have always been run by Railroad Employees?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Engine repair, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 20 July 2011

The Union at the railroad will never be strong, unless someone educates
80-90% of its workforce to stop voting for republicans.  Just read the
facts people.  Republicans have already been responsible for many RIGHT
TO WORK states.  They hate unions and will do anything in there power to
bust a union, much like CSX management.  So stop listening to your NON
UNION bosses and do what is right for your much corrupted union at the
railroad.

Name: Robofuq
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 20 July 2011

Record profits continue......CSX announced 2nd quarter earnings of $506
million, vs $414 million a year ago.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 30+ years
Posted: 19 July 2011

Oh i could post so many things! So much has changed and not all for the
better!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 19 July 2011

Explain to me how an individual goes to arbitration? Not possible. CSX
labor relations or the NMB wouldn't/couldn't give them the time they
would be swamped. The only ones I know who can even get an arbitration
meeting is the LC & GC. There we go with rumors. What if I told you I
could bleed the air off an entire train with only pulling the bleed rod
on one car. Would you believe it? An oldhead did that one to me the
first time I worked a hump yard bleeder job. They had a good laugh the
yardmaster wasn't to happy. lol

Name: just plain krazy
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 19 July 2011

just wondering y and the hell the men cant stick together. the unions do
nothing. the bonus the conductors were supposed to get (by what was said
in the contract) on the first of july was pushed back to the 15th
without the union letting anyone know till the day before.....all
claims whether good or not are being deniedand i know the only guys
that are getting thier claims paid are taking them to arbitration
themselves..... ive been told stories of how combining the UTU and BLE
has fell thru in the past but maybe it is time to try again. im tired
of being screwed by this company, its time for both crafts to come at
the comany with one united union.

Name: KYLE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 17 July 2011

Oh yea tell me about rr rumors, when i 1st hired on 1st trip, had to
stay in one of those shit ass ymca,s with only a cutain between the
bunks, The guy next to me was snoring so loud i could not sleep, i got
pissed and threw a cup of water over the top of the curtain, Man that
woke him up fast, He must have had his pants on the bunk cuz when he
woke all the change in his pockets fell on the floor, well 2 days later
180 miles away at my home terminal, i was being accused of trying to
steal that guys wallet, For a good 5 yrs i was known as the wallet
thief, yup thats how mole hills become a mountain on the rr, some of
these guys are worse than a bunch of old women with gossip lies.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 17 July 2011

The railroad is definitely a rumor mill. A conductor earlier this year
was killed while doing a pick up by a passing train there was video
from the passing trains lead locomotive. First reports that the
engineer on the passing train did everything he was suppose to do
called the crew on the radio which the conductor responded verbally and
by hand signal then laid on the horn bell ect...The rumors are still
abundant. Last one I heard that a toxicology report was done on the
deceased conductor that marijuana was found in his system. I've heard
rumors the conductors wife if not only suing CSX but also the engineer.
In the early '80s I worked in a roundhouse as a hostler in a small
desolate little railroad town out of boredom we would start small
harmless rumors with the train crews from the east & west then wait to
see how far they would get out of control. It was amazing to see how
far fetched they would become.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 17 July 2011

No, it was not raining that night.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years
Posted: 16 July 2011

Regarding the NTSB, they seem to be bought and paid for by the railroads
and airlines.   So do not expect CSX to get a spankin from them unless
some attorney can get the video in court and prove a signal failure.  
Wondering is it was raining that nite?

CSX will not pay out anything to the victims family unless the courts
or situation makes it in their best interest.


CSX Nazi Behavior Base Safety did not work in this situation.  A signal
system or other reason seems to be the likely fault.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 16 July 2011

Well, in the good old days when the UTU was hungry, they would have
stayed on top of the Mineral Springs and similar stories.

Here's the link to the only story the UTU ran...pretty sad, isn't
it!


              http://utu.org/?s=Mineral+Springs%2C+NC

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 15 July 2011

The NTSB has all the video. CSX hasn't seen it yet. There are as many
rumors about this accident as there are railroaders out here.

Name: AWP
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 15 July 2011

Added to article below about Mineral Springs collision:  Speed on impact
48 MPH.

Name: AWP
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 15 July 2011

In response to the rear end collision in Mineral Springs, NC on   May
24, 2011 that killed the train crew:  I work in the Atlanta Division on
the A&WP and regularly speak with crews from Abbeville, SC about the
rear end collision.  I spoke with a man who has seen the download. The
engineer complied to the Approach Signal according to the operating
rules.  The crew then came back out on the power as if they were
displayed a clear signal at the intermediate siganl after the approach
signal.  The engineer blew the crossing a few hundred feet prior to the
collision and turned the bell off just seconds before. They obviously
were awake. This same employee told me that he has come out onto the
main in that area on a short local train and not show up on the
dispatchers board due to the tracks not shunting. Is there a known
problem in this area? Were they running on a clear signal? We will
probably never know cause CSX says the loco-cam was not functioning.
Its funny how if its something that can prove your guilt they always
can get the video but if its a video that can clear your name then it
never seems to work. Go figure.  I heard the NTSB took over the
investigation so maybe we will get to the bottom of it. Big maybe.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Engine repair, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 14 July 2011

my daddy didnt work here you spoke that well, I am in about the same
boat you are.  This place is full of journeyman of nothing.  poor
training and only thing they know is strictly memorization.  Most
employees are also job scared.  Because no one else would hire them
anywhere else.

Name: KYLE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 14 July 2011

There is no such thing as a railroader who does not bitch at times, its
just some do it more than others, Yer always going to get the 2% who
hate the job in any industry & yes the 1 poster said it correct, were
else can you make so much money with just a highschool diploma, when ya
find that company, let me know, railroaders are a special breed of
peeps, its a thing that gets in yer blood thats why so many of us have
stayed aboard the ship even the dudes who work for short lines who pay
much less than we on the class 1s make, when railroading gets yer blood
it will never go away, and yes i too bitch about things on the rr too
but deep down i love the job and would not trade it for anything else.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 12 July 2011

Everyone knew the circumstances when they took the job offer.     
On-call 24/7. I talk to guys everyday who say, "man I can't believe
they called me on my rest, thats crazy, man," or "man, i told you
they would turn that claim down!" (However, we do have a major issue
in this area that needs to be addressed. Its bad enough to work the
hours we do but then you gotta fight for your money. Its not right.)
Again, you knew what you were getting in when you accepted the job and
when you voted in your union representative even if he is a dirty
bastard. I feel like a shrink instead of an engineer. All the bullcrap
I listen to everyday up and down the rails from the conductor or the
guy thats in the yard office whose been here 40 yrs talking about how
he hates working for the railroad. Nobody is holding a gun to your head
making you go to work. If you can't handle the requirmemnts for
employmet then go work at wal-mart or something.  Oh yeah, wait a
minute. Where else are you going to make $100K+ year with a GED or high
school diploma?  You're not! So step-up, shut-up, get out or retire.

Name: 00h323
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 08 July 2011

Anyone hear anything about the derailment that happened tuesday just
south of evansville? Same spot as the 3 last year i think. By the way i
heard the swat teams are supposed to be on the cd next week

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 July 2011

Checked out the two wrecks...heat probable cause in the Morristown
incident which also had a bridge collapse involved. No reason given for
the DeWitt accident...probably need to change the name of the town to
DimWit!

One thing I did notice was a complete lack of these being reported on
the UTU web site. Use to be these occurrences made the front page the
next day. Just another day in paradise so it's no big deal!

Name: robofuq
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 07 July 2011

Re; Syracuse train derailment.  Google "Syracuse train derailment". 
Eastbound freight rearended eastbound stack train.  Thankfully no
serious injuries, but a hell of a mess.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 10-20 years
Posted: 07 July 2011

Another WRECK AND ANOTHER DERAILMENT  MORRISTOWN INDIANA  SOUTH EAST OF
INDY    SHOWING UP ON THE NEWS AND INTERNET.   CHALK UP ANOTHER MESS

Name: my daddy did not work here
E-mail: 
Employed as: Engine repair, for 10-20 years
Posted: 07 July 2011

I have been in skilled trades for 15 years before becoming a electrican
on the RR.This is the most unskilled skilled labor I have ever
seen.What do the expect when they hire daddys dumb ass boy and put him
on the fuel rack,then promote him to a skilled trade.
How I ever got the job I don't know.Every one I work with has
generations of railroaders in their family.Im sick of working with
parts changers who have no idea what the part does.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 06 July 2011

Another CSX Train Wreck This time in Syracuse NY hitting
Amtrak????????????


Where are the latest details ?

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 02 July 2011

brakemen 30+

What did Kyle say that wasn't true? I worked hump yards back in the
'70s certian cars weren't suppose to humped like tankers, woodracks,
freight cars with doors open ect...apparently things have changed. I
guess they still have retarder tower operators. I'm not sure how humps
operate anymore. I use to work skatemen jobs riding clear alleys some of
those retarder operators were retarded. We'ld have to catch cars still
running 20mph least not forget they'ld drop two clear alleys back to
back after they should of been instructed by the hump YM to hold back.
Safety is an issue if you don't think it is then you're a danger to
youself more importantly a danger to others.

Name: Ralph Whitaker Fan Club
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 02 July 2011

I remember some other guys in the Indiapolis MOW department who received
extra special treatment;  Terry Stewart; a B&B crane operator who can't
run a crane but has a company pickup and his crane is  always in need of
repair and he always has an excuse why he can't use the crane.
  Dirty Dave Bales  ran over a utility pole in Avon Yards.  Ralphy boy
swept that under the rug.  Dirty Dave would just hang out after hours
for the OT and he did get with it.

  Mike "MB" Fulp ; the once pride and joy of Dan Justice at
Hawthorne. MB Fulp was caught several times by Ralph and Dano for
padding the payroll and screwing off.  MB was even caught borrowing a
CSX welder truck to use the torch to cut up some scrap metal at his
house.  Ralph and Dan just let that slide.
  It wasn't until MB Fulp was caught by the FRA for lying about
inspecting track when he was really at home that Ralph and Danny-boy
threw him to the wolves.

Rick Perry;  He was promoted to ADE of bridges as a result of putting
an extension ladder against a bridge in the middle of a busy road
without baricades cones,etc.  Needless to say a car came by, hit the
ladder and injured not-to-bright Rick.

Sam Spears;  Ricky made him a bridge manager even though there were two
far more qualified black men who applied for the job.  I suppose being
kicked out of the NAVY for being AWOL too many times and being on the
drug/alcohol rehab program at CSX made him the best choice in Ricky's
wandering eyes.

Josh Huron;  He was told by the Roadmaster and the ADE to drive a
pickup when he didn't have a driver's license.  He followed orders
and was later fired for his efforts.

  We hope that J-ville does give the enema to the engineering
department in Indy and the GL.  Ralph Whitaker should go back to being
a cook.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 30+ years
Posted: 01 July 2011

Kyle

I find it hard to believe you been out here 20 years.  You sound like a
Safety Suck.  Accident Prone?   I am sure you never had a close call or
made a mistake.   Keep flipping those burgers and hot dogs Don't Get
Burnt

Name: KYLE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 01 July 2011

To rrj, yea sounds to me that the truck driver was just a a - hole or
accident prone, yup have worked with accident prone peeps on the rr,
seems no matter how carefull they they always get into trouble, most of
the times they take them out of the field & put them into some type of
mamagment job, guess they figure they can,t hurt anything pushing
papers Yea i work in a big hump yard & i know what is in those tank
cars, some nasty stuff, seen one day while coupling tracks, a tank car
came down and hit a cut real hard, the vent valve blew off and all that
shit went everywere glad i was far away from it cuz i found out it was a
tank car full of sulfuric acid pure form, Now hows that for a nut
grabber, Seen all kind of strange things on that hump happen, box car
doors being knocked off on impact and falling right in the 6 ft were we
walk,,big blocks of compressed steel falling off overloaded gons into
the 6 ft, pipes stacked on flats falling off into the 6ft and thats
were we have to walk and we al know what will happen if we are near it
when that happenes, yea man the peraly gates no doubt about it, got to
have 4 sets of eyes in these yards and that is not even enough, just
pisses me off when non rr peeps say we have such a cake job as there is
NO cake job on the rr.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 01 July 2011

NoMo

I had already read an article about his driving record. Especially
while being a school bus driver. As for the terrorist theory 6 people
wouldn't exactly be in their plans. Scarier is the fact 85% of all
chemicals are tranported by rail. Blow up one of those in Chicago, Los
Angeles ect...it would be a catastrophy. I think I'd already posted
about a TV crew in California that did a story on rail safety. They
taped a cardboard box on to a tanker at night. With camera lights
ect...you could see locomotives, trucks, and people moving in the far
background but no one questioned it. They followed the tank car for 500
miles to the LA area it went undetected.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 30 June 2011

Looks like the truck driver was just a dumb shit, glad he was driving a
school bus!

http://utu.org/2011/06/28/trucker-in-amtrak-crash-9-traffic-tickets-since-2007/

Name: KYLE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 30 June 2011

I think we should wait for all the medical reports before we pass any
type of judement on the truck driver, A rule of thumb most tox reports
take up to 3 months to get back from a lab, some even longer, plus we
might find out sooner if he was texting or using a cell phone at the
time.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 29 June 2011

Hey Slack:

You can't rule it out but the odds of it being a terrorist attack
might be 1 or 2 percent.

Terrorists are interest in killing a lot of innocent people, hundreds
not 5 or 10. Also they want high visibility and as much collateral
damage as possible...the middle of the Nevada desert doesn't meet that
criteria.

If there's ever an attack on an Amtrak train it will be in a major
city as it arrives or departs the station. Even more likely, an attack
on the subway during rush hour.

When it's all said and done, the driver was distracted or maybe under
the influence!

Name: slack action
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 20-30 years
Posted: 29 June 2011

Not really all that far fetched.  Amtrak has been on the terroist list
for years... People would have thought it was ridulous for planes to
fly into 2 towers in New York City and the Pentagon back on 9/10/01.
Remember, that is why it is called a suicide bomber.  Remember the USS
Cole and the train in Spain...You can't rule it out that it was not a
terrist act, can you?

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 29 June 2011

NoMo

He was running empty with two rock trailers. The other two drivers
stated they couldn't believe that he wasn't slowing down visibility
was clear this streach of road was flat and straight enough that
warning flashers ect...could of been seen from a 1/2 mile distance.
There were no visual obsticles from the Amtrak train so take the curves
and triangle sight distances off the table. Sounds just like Nevada
desert.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 29 June 2011

Hey RRJ:

320' is a pretty good skid mark. I think the truck had a dump trailer
on it and I didn't, or at least don't remember seeing any any rocks
or dirt in the pictures I saw. It would lead me to conclude the truck
was empty. 

I would think an empty truck with good tires and properly operating
brakes could stop in that distance. You said he was the lead truck in a
convoy of three. It would interesting to know exactly what the other two
drivers saw and when they saw it. It also didn't look like there were
any visual obstructions

I'm willing to bet the trucks tires were bald and the driver was
speeding and distracted (texting etc.) and the driver didn't look up
until it was too late!

Name: Max Dugan
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 1-10 years
Posted: 29 June 2011

We heard that some people who were not happy with the mis-representation
by Mike Flowers and the bending / breaking the rules for some Ralph
Whitaker ( a plethora of rules violations by Eric Casad and the hit,
run and shop Chuck Young , etc... ) gave up some information to the
grandmother's lawyers in the Adam Flowers traffic accident.
  Maybe Jacksonville will give a much-needed enema to the MOW
department in Indy.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 29 June 2011

NoMo

I guess we'll find out in a year or so from the NTSB. I just find it
ridicules that people were commenting on a terrorist act. I think the
terrorist won if that is enstilled in peoples minds. I just think it
was some fool who thought he could beat the train. Terrorist would blow
up the train not do a kamikaze routine. Suicide by train? I don't think
so. It doesn't add up. It's difficult to determine the speed of an
oncoming train almost an optical illusion it always looks like it's
moving slower then it really is. I think he screwed up they stated the
skidded marks when he finally did lock up his brakes was 320 feet. The
big question was how fast was he really going? The speed limit on the
road was 70 mph. Trucking companies might have to be required to
regulate their goverors so their trucks won't go over a certian speed
limit. I had a friend who worked for Cononco drove tankers for Dupont
their trucks couldn't go over 65 mph.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 28 June 2011

Hey RRJ:

Might have been suicide by train!

Name: Hensen Cargill
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 20-30 years
Posted: 28 June 2011

In regards to the latest Adam "A-Crash" Flowers accident I agree with
the dispatcher that he will not get out of this one.  His very partial
to who he really represents union daddy and Ralph Whitaker won't be
able to help him.
  The ladie's attorney probably filed a "Discovery Motion" getting
Adam Flowers' driving history which will show his accidents in CSX
vehicles and will also get his phone records.  I would say that's why
CSX put A-Crash out of service.  It would look worse for them if he was
still active.
  The lawyers will ask why management ( Mainly T-bone , Ralph and Dan
Justice ) in a fortune 500 company that preaches "safety is a way of
life" would allow someone like Adam Flowers to continue to drive CSX
vehicles knowing that he has a bad driving history.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 June 2011

The truck that hit Amtrak was in a convoy with 2 other trucks it was in
the lead. The two other driver witnessed as the truck did not slow down
or even looked like he attempted to stop at the crossing. Was it brake
failure? Or human error?

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 28 June 2011

Man Killed Cleaning Up CSX Derailment June 17th, 2010, a CSX freight
train derailed in the Jackson Township of Indiana.  This derailment was
the third at this location since 2003.  This time, a man lost his life,
the second life lost on CSX property in just six days. Fortunately (for
CSX), 43 year old Michael Bowling, was a part of a crane crew that was
contracted to clean up the mess left behind by this errant railroad,
and therefore will not be counted by the Federal Railroad
Administration as a part of CSX’s death trail.

For the full story on this tragedy and trail of blood left by CSX
Transportation, see the article posted by the Northwest Indiana Times.
CSX wasted no time in adding to its death total.  Three days later, on
June 20st, 2010, Fred Gibbs was murdered while aboard an unsecured CSX
locomotive cab.

John Davis Trucking Company, Inc.

PO Box 457
1110 Muleshoe Road
Battle Mountain, NV  89820

(775) 635-2805 Phone (775) 635-8017 Fax

 

The family of people who are John Davis Trucking wish to express their
deepest condolences and sincerest sympathies to the family members and
friends of those who lost their loved ones in the tragic accident of
Friday, June 24.  We join those around the country and the world in
mourning the deaths of the conductor and the passengers of the
California Zephyr and the passing of Lawrence Valli, a member of our
family, who also died in this accident.  We also send out our wishes to
those injured in this accident for a full and speedy recovery, and you
will all remain in our hearts and prayers.  Please know that we
recognize our moral and social obligation to find out how this accident
happened, and we intend to cooperate with the authorities in their
investigation.  Thank you.

Name: slack action
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 20-30 years
Posted: 27 June 2011

Duh... The truck ( musta) or must have been speeding and run through the
gates and tried to derail a train.  I wonder if the TSA, FBI, CIA,  runs
a check on the truck driver to see if he is on the terroist list because
this was a terroist act.  People.. YOU  have to wake up and smell the
roses.  This truck driver was a suicide bomber in the USA... HMMMM 
never thought of that happening in the good ole USA, did ya?  Well
guess what, it just did... Do you remember just a few years ago people
said that pilots vered off coarse and hit the twin towers by
accident...Pine's cock a manie ideas strike again...

Great to hear from you old Pines.  Did they let you out of the rubber
room?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 30+ years
Posted: 27 June 2011

Dispatcher

Sounds like you heard something in the pipeline.    Jackassville must
have told them if they sweep it under the carpet, someone else would
take the hit.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 27 June 2011

Good morning Robert...nice to hear from you. I hope all is well.

Kyle...if I understand what I saw, the truck hit the fourth car. The
train was several cars over the crossing. The trucking company had been
cited many times and had equipment pulled from service. It sounds like
the driver was speeding, distracted and couldn't stop the truck, even
if he tried.

Here's one...

          http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/81613103/

Name: KYLE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 27 June 2011

Guess we will never know what happened with the accident in arizona were
the truck hit the side of a amtrack train, 5 deaths from what i read, I
just assume trucks do not have those black boxes like we do, It could
have been worse if the amtrack train had de-railed, maby some light
will be shed after the autposie & medical tests are done on the truck
driver, Also read that trucking company had many violations in the
past. probably a non union co too and of course the news media got it
all wrong again as they said the train hit the truck,NOT!!!! I hate
when the news media does reports on train accidents as none of them
know WTF they are even talking about as they know nothing about rr
operations, Someone should enlightin some of these dumb ass news
reporters & the cops are no better cuz they also have no clue to rr
operations.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 27 June 2011

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3aeEgjCeNM&feature=player_embedded

DUH the 78 mph truck musta jumped over the unbroken gates I guess.

Name: GL Div
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 20-30 years
Posted: 27 June 2011

He is not getting out of this one.

Name: Max Dugan
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 1-10 years
Posted: 26 June 2011

To Joe Preston Fan Club Re: Adam Flowers vehicle accident, Indy, IN.

  Our ADE; Ralph Whitaker didn't care for the track inspector at
Hawthorn at the time so he threatened to fire him or suspend him if he
didn't bid out.  That guy bid out and Adam Flowers bid the Hawthorn
track inspector job in.  Ralph and Dano knew about Adam's driving
history ( past and current ) and told him "to be careful".  About 4
weeks ago Adam Flowers was playing with his phone on Southeastern
avenue and rear-ended a Grandmother and her grandaughter sending both
to the hospital.  Adam's license was suspended at the time and was
given a multitude of tickets.
  The company had Adam change his story from using his phone to
reaching for a spitcan.  I believe it's a Rooster-Fish company policy
to NOT use tobacco products in a CSX vehicle.  The GL boys waited 3
weeks to put Adam out of service pending an investigation or more like
a "sweetheart deal".
  We are all wondering how Mike Flowers and Ralph Whitaker are going to
get their boy out of this one?

Name: matt sanders and matt stamper
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 26 June 2011

Alright, so we finally got a hold of Mrs. Ward.  Mr. Stamper got her in
the ass which is what he is use to and since I am now in Indiana, I
fucked Michael in the ass!!  Good day everyone!!!  Oh, I am sorry, and
the "KISS ASS, NOSY BASTARD" Steve Crain took a dildo in his ass at
the same time!!!LLLMMMMMAAAOOO  Hey Steve, you still going to Pennmary
every Sunday just toi get away from the wife/hemroid??  Just
curious!!:0)

Name: Joe Preston Fan Club
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 20-30 years
Posted: 26 June 2011

We heard that there was another CSX M.O.W. traffic accident on the
Southwest/Greatlakes territory, involving Adam Flowers.  This would be
his 4th accident in 4 years.  I wonder if CSX will check his cellphone
records this time?  I doubt it since his daddy is a BMWED union rep. 
Ralph "whites-only" Whitaker will probably give him another glowing
character reference so he will get another baby-slap on the wrist.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 25 June 2011

FUCK CSX SAFETY!!!  They can stick there hot dog lunches right up there
asses!

Like safety really means anything to this cheap ass outfit!

Name: U.S. Supreme Court
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 24 June 2011

SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES
Syllabus
CSX TRANSPORTATION, INC.
v. MCBRIDE

CERTIORARI TO THE UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS FOR THE SEVENTH
CIRCUIT
No. 10–235. Argued March 28, 2011—Decided June 23, 2011
Respondent McBride, a locomotive engineer with petitioner CSX
Transportation, Inc., an interstate railroad, sustained a
debilitatinghand injury while switching railroad cars. He filed suit
under the Federal Employers’ Liability Act (FELA), which holds
railroads liablefor employees’ injuries "resulting in whole or in part
from [carrier]negligence." 45 U. S. C. §51. McBride alleged that CSX
negligently
(1) required him to use unsafe switching equipment and (2) failed to
train him to operate that equipment. A verdict for McBride would be in
order, the District Court instructed, if the jury found that CSX’s
negligence "caused or contributed to" his injury. The court declined
CSX’s request for additional charges requiring McBride to "show that .
. . [CSX’s] negligence was a proximate cause of the injury" and
defining "proximate cause" as "any cause which, in natural or
probable sequence, produced the injury complained of." Instead,
relying on Rogers v. Missouri Pacific R. Co., 352 U. S. 500, the court
gave the Seventh Circuit’s pattern FELA instruction: "Defendant
‘caused or contributed to’ Plaintiff’s injury if Defendant’s negligence
played a part—no matter how small—in bringing about the injury." The
jury returned a verdict for McBride.
On appeal, CSX renewed its objection to the failure to instruct on
proximate cause, now defining the phrase to require a "direct relation
between the injury asserted and the injurious conduct alleged." The
appeals court, however, approved the District Court’s instruction and
affirmed its judgment for McBride. Because Rogers had relaxed the
proximate cause requirement in FELA cases, the court said, an
instruction that simply paraphrased Rogers’ language could not be
declared erroneous.
Held: The judgment is affirmed.

Name: KYLE
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Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 23 June 2011

Ya know who really pisses me off on the rr? The suck ass t&e who think
the rr can not run without them as i have heard them talk like that
many times & guess what? When they retire the rr is still running
without them, It boggles my mind on why they think like that like they
are gods gift to the rr and it can,t run without them, guess that is
what happenes when yer head gets to big for your brain, Heard a ym at a
small yard a few yrs ago & he said we put out more frieght than the big
yard does, yea that was until the rr closed his small yard but the big
yard is still there,See what i mean about peeps on a ego trip, Guess
its must be nice to eat CROW?

Name: NoMo
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 21 June 2011

Sorry but I just can't help myself...

I guess when the yards get congested because nothing moves and you end
up shoving the tracks, that would be Irritable Bowel Syndrome!

Name: GL
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Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 10-20 years
Posted: 21 June 2011

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 20 June 2011

I hope I never work in a yard with a bowel track.

  .....

Evey yard has one... Didn't you know?

Supt/trainmasters office

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 20 June 2011

I hope I never work in a yard with a bowel track.

Name: KYLE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 19 June 2011

The only thing i seen in our yard as far as the FRA,They vist the yard
about 2 times a yr & mostly shop cars with outdated air brake
inspections & when they do that a extra yard job has to be called out
to drill those fra defective cars out,They then take them to the car
shop were all they do is put new stickers on them,Its cahos when they
do that, But its strange how they do it, they don,t inspect the cars
when they are in a train waiting to get humped nor do they look at them
when those cars have been drilled into the bowel tracks,They wait untill
a train is made up and ready to go on the outbound trackes, Then all
hell breaks loose, Now if they just would inspect them before they got
humped, we could still hump them to a certain track then have the car
knockers go over them with what needs to be done, But fuck no, thats to
easy, I often wonder if the FRA has thier brains stuck up thier asses,
Or maby they do it thier way just to jack a few wires off, Also 1 time
a yr these time studie guys come to the yard & ride the jobs and not
much freight gets put out when they do that & its the rr co who pays
for stupid things like that and we all know they do it so they can get
a report as to abolish a job, All we do when the time studie men come
in is work by the book 100% Guess the co don,t know we have those guys
figured out on what they are there for, he he but we know so the co
must know too, so why would they even spend the millions of dollars to
have them come in and do this stupid BS in the first place????

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 17 June 2011

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Help FRA stop harassment; improve safety
April 21, 2011 
The Federal Railroad Administration’s Risk Reduction Program is a
voluntary industry-wide initiative to reduce accidents and injuries and
build a strong safety culture by expanding the toolkit to analyze and
manage risk.

Eventually, these assessments will complement other programs such as
safety inspections of railcars and injury reporting.

We are currently drafting a regulation requiring railroads to develop
comprehensive risk reduction programs.

The FRA Risk Reduction Program affects every railroader through timely
reporting of employee injuries and illnesses.

Additionally, an FRA team is collecting data on current practices and
is seeking ways to prevent harassment and intimidation of injured
railroad employees.

The data is collected from FRA complaint and enforcement records and
directly from rail labor organizations.

The FRA also is working with outside sources, including the
Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA), to gain a clearer
understanding of that agency’s whistleblower regulation for railroad
employees, and other factors that can contribute to solving harassment
problems.

Using what they have learned, our Risk Reduction Program team conducted
numerous presentations for UTU members on their rights regarding
work-related injuries. The team learned a tremendous amount about
current conditions railroad employees face daily.

The FRA also is strongly encouraging railroads to take actions that
remove the punitive policies and practices that invite or induce
retaliatory harassment and intimidation.

Amtrak is one railroad that has taken strides in this direction.

In implementing its Safe 2 Safer program, Amtrak has taken positive
steps to improve its safety culture. The FRA Risk Reduction Program
team noted that, as a result, the number of injuries reported by Amtrak
employees has risen as expected, and the number of OSHA whistleblower
cases reported by employees has decreased.

The FRA hopes this indicates that injured Amtrak employees are now
seeking and receiving appropriate care; and that other railroads will
learn from Amtrak’s success and implement similar programs.

The FRA appreciates the UTU’s assistance in providing this invaluable
data and input to the investigation team. When and where the team is
successful in mitigating risks and hazards identified, safety is
improved for railroad employees and the public.

An Advanced Notice of Proposed Rulemaking was published in the Federal
Register in December, and we are currently reviewing the comments
received. However, in order to obtain as much stakeholder input as
possible, we plan to conduct a public hearing.

In the meantime, we would appreciate receiving comments and suggestions
from UTU members, which should be sent to the UTU National Legislative
Office in Washington, D.C., which will collect and forward them to the
FRA’S Risk Reduction Program team.

Thank you for your involvement in building a strong rail safety
culture.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 16 June 2011

Hey New Guy:

When you're incompetent, why would you look forward to the daily
conference call and getting your ass chewed in front of the entire
Division...or maybe he just didn't get lucky!

Name: New Guy
E-mail:
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 15 June 2011

Whats the deal with a manager coming to work in a bad mood, Your cool
during the summer, dry during the rain, warm during the winter. You
work first shift, off on the weekends, and were hired straight outta of
college so you never paid your dues. By a stroke of luck your now the
senior master baiter in MONTGOMERY AL. Montgomery has become the catch
pen for piss poor management and the few good ones won't stay long
because of the terminal manager and his first shift rag queen. Its to
the point now that we get nothin done and I can honestly say its
actually managements fault and not the employees, ha ha ha

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 13 June 2011

NoMo

Being qualified is a double edge sword on CSX. I remember some years
ago CSX leased out 196 miles to a shortline. The only jobs covered by
local CSX crews was a rock train getting qualified & staying qualified
was difficult especially engineers with the FRA policy of making at
least one trip a year. Then they started threating people who asked for
pilots catching it off the extra boards. CSX even went so far as to
include this shortline into their face to face rules classes for
everyone. They did this so when someone asked for a pilot it could be
used against them in an investigation. Rules & being physically
qualified on the territory are two separate issues unfortuntely not
with CSX.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 12 June 2011

Hey RRJ and Kyle...

I know what the rule(s)say about being qualified...certainly on a local
it's imperative the entire crew is qualified. On a line haul, of course
the engineer must be qualified...however, even with a greenhorn
conductor, if he has a Timetable and can read he should be able to
reasonably do his job.

Certainly, one round trip isn't enough to become familiar with the
territory you're running. It looks complete different in the dead of
night than broad daylight, during rain, fog and up north snow. CSX says
one trip makes you qualified and the FRA agrees. Dispatchers had to ride
their territory annually...that's scary when you think about it.

CSX loved to promote conductors to engineers within a couple of years
of employment then cut them back to the ground for 4 or 5 years before
permanently calling them up. Based on personal experience, it takes a
new hire 3 to 5 years before they completely understand the reason why
the RR works the way it does.

Like Pissed said...people will die before the FRA acts. Even at that,
the FRA is loaded with former RR management types who are far too
friendly with the carriers to be objective and like the majority
of current RR line management have little practical experience.

Let the carnage begin

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 12 June 2011

Kyle

I hear it all the time from friends still working that it's a mess out
there with both engineers & conductors not being qualified on certian
jobs. Especially those on extra boards catching rock trains, road
switchers, and placing coal at power plants. Some of these new
engineers spent their entire time working in the yard. How did they get
a FRA certification? CSX just wants a body they don't care if they can
do the job. Retirements in my area are kicking up with 7 people most
likely more engineers & conductors leaving this year. When I left in
2009 I had engineer trainees that didn't even know the signals much
less the territories they were going to work on. How is that possible
after 3-4 years on the railroad? They are now promoted engineers
because the RFE makes their qualifying run on the easiest subdivision
72 miles on empties not loads. All one can hope for is they have common
sense take their time go through the motions unfortunately without ever
understanding what they're actually doing. Scary!

Name: Very Unhappy
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 12 June 2011

Can ANYONE point out a single good thing about this B & O agreement???
So far it has been HORRIBLE for conductors. As Conductors on the Albany
Division, we only get one day off....but now we no longer get a day off
when they can call you at 2200 for 0000 going into your "day off" &
then they are able to call you 0400 for 0600 coming off your "day
off"....what the hell is THAT all about & and who in their right mind
would've agreed to such a joke of a policy??? And believe me CSX is
taking full advantage of this new policy. This new agreement seems to
lean very much in CSX's favor & NOT in ours AT ALL....

Name: kyle
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 11 June 2011

To rrj, yea i myself have had this happen were i was on a train and i
was not quilfied, What happened there was a derailment that happened on
the main while we were in route & it was a hot shot pig train i was on,
so the we had to be rerouted per say on another main line and i was not
qualified but the engine man was, The Ds told me you will follow the
engineer to the final terminal even though i did request a pilot
conductor, which i did as i was a sort of new just got promoted
conductor, everything went ok per say,But after thinking about that yrs
later like if something bad had happend they would have hung me from the
high rack & the ds too who gave that order, I found out real fast about
rr operations that if everything goes ok then no problem, but let
something bad occure then its yer ass they are after real fast, It was
after that that i did get involved with the BOR as i found out there is
a rule covering every dam thing you do on the rr & that they will and do
use those rules aginst you if there is just a slight violation of any
said rule in that book, Ya know i thought at 1 time while in highschool
that those school rules sucked, but man i found out real fast that the
rules while working for a big rr company are much diffrent with more
dire things when ya screw up, guess that is what they were trying to
teach us when we wer in school, only it took a few yrs for that to sink
into my mind and now i know.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 11 June 2011

Problems begin when others don't object to going outside the scope of
the agreements. It becomes standard operating procedures. If only a
handful stand up against violations their deemed trouble makers. Such
is the case of requesting "pilots" or "utilitymen" for those
unqualified. On several occasions after the facts became known I had to
call the TD enroute when it became clear the conductor was unqualified.
I put in their hands call a utilityman or we run the work. I wasn't
going to take the responsibility. Hopefully things change next year
with FRA certification of conductors. If one is forced under possible
charges of insubordination start the work then hog the train go slow
enough that a recrew has to be called.

Name: suzannah
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 09 June 2011

Engineers,

I just received and email from another engineer who said he was told
that the FRA has agreed that it is okay for new hires to ride on the
coat tails of a qualified engineer even though he/she never worked the
job. If this is true then we all better up our out of insurance
premiums because we are going to take the fall for every mistake they
make. God for bid one of them looses an arm or leg while under our
supervision. If they get killed the families will probably come after
us too! I was told this morning that the BLET is stepping up its effort
to put the heat on the FRA and is trying to get us protected from any
liabilities due to the companies unwillingness to train these guys
properly. I dont know whats going on in your area, but they have the
new hires going east and west on the road and bouncing them around all
over the place elsewhere. One of the LC's told me they are trying to
put a stop to this practice. Either train them east or train them west.
This way they can learn everything on one side instead of this nickle
and dime crap they are doing. MY opinion....Poor planning on the
companies part doesnt constitute and emergency on mine!!!  I didnt
cause the manpower shortage. My job shouldnt be jeopardized by it!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 07 June 2011

6/10/2011 correction

Name: Missed
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 07 June 2011

RIP  6/09/2010  MWS  Gone from us but never forgotten We love and miss
you brother....

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 07 June 2011

Hey Pissed:

At least when we were trained they still had old heads (30+years)that
could show us a thing or two(like how to take 3 or 4 hours to couple a
track). Yes I'm afraid if you have 10 years service today you are an
old head...your grey hair speaks volumes, Check with Avon,I think they
make something for that;)

Hope the weather is better there than here...been hot as 40 hells here
and we're short 18" of rain. At least we're not flooding...yet!

Name: pissed
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 07 June 2011

Nomo,

Good thing you got out when you did. I dont see anygood in the future
for our railroads. Why? The training for the new hires has gotten so
shabby its becoming a serious safety issue. Especially for engineers.
Seems that CMC thinks its the engineers responsability to train and
pilot the new guys when they get marked up. Ive been told they have
been telling them this when they get called for a job they dont know a
damb thing about. They have been telling them that they dont need
conductor pilots when they ask for one because the engineers will take
care of them! I hope to god the other divisons havent gotten as bad as
the Greatlakes. They need bodies so bad they are running the new guys
through like an assembly line. They know very little about everything
and nothing about alot. We arent hearing anything good from these new
guys. Unfortunatley they are too scared to stand up for themselves.
Afraid if they make waves before the union can represent them they will
get fired. Im sure that would be the case. Going to the FRA is not going
to do any good because they have to already know what the hell is going
on. Someone will have to die(again)and a lawsuit filed before this shit
stops!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 05 June 2011

Feed stock and product...not a good idea to eat your food supply!

Even at 10%, ever notice the water problems in the fuel...sputter and
stall or maybe that's just me!

Name: KYLE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 05 June 2011

Oh yes i have seen the raptor birds hanging near the yard, But for every
raptor you see there are a thousand rats or more so the eco balance does
favor the millions of rats, The problem is the coverd hoppers as they
are just making them too dam big as every time one of them derails and
goes on thier sides that grain spills out like a ballon bursting, I
heard old heads say that was never a problem until those 100 ton jumbos
came into play, just too top heavy for the tracks and the rr don,t care
a RATS ass, no pun as long as they can move the stuff  if they derail
at times, then the hell with it as they can always blame the train
crews for those derailments, I don,t know what train is worse, A grain
train or a ethnol train with tank cars, i would prefer the ethonal
train any day as grain traines they are just bad news all the way
around.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 04 June 2011

Hey APE 20-30:

That is a good idea and a solution CSX should be able to get behind. It
certainly beats having to rebuild all their grain cars or dealing with
governmental entities.

We use to see owls on the ML over Lake Catherine feasting on those fat
little critters...only problem was if they were in the gauge, that's
where they stayed.

Bon-a-petit.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years
Posted: 04 June 2011

About the spilled grain and rat problem - this has been a RR -all RR -
problem for years. Rats will be here forever. HOWEVER, there is a slick
solution, which doesn't involve local health departments or the EPA.
Make sure there is very good habitat for birds, especially owls and
various raptors, on the property. Hawks and owls really take up little
space on site. Work with local bird groups for advice and support. Put
sound shields on humps - some places already have them - as these birds
have very sensitive ears and destroying their hearing effectively
cripples the bird.We then have a great environmental solution where
rats and pigeons feed on grain, and the owls, etc. feed on rats and
pigeons. CSX could generate great publicity for owl breeding, vs not so
great PR for providing rat habitat. Only problem is that only Jax. have
projects allowed, not regional locations. Option B of course is to ask
the EPA for new regulations and rebuild and maintain all grain cars to
new standards.

Name: KYLE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 04 June 2011

Oh yea the rats love that spilled grain, Our yard is full of them the
rats, must be a million rat tunnels in the yard the lil cock knockers
have the place infested, They have tryed poisin bait, extermanators,
nothing works, The lil bastards even get into the signal boxes on the
humps and chew up the wires, Yea seen a grain train pik a switch 1 day
when pullin in the yard, 7 of them rolled right on their sides and it
happened right were the car bleeders shanty WAS And they had thier cars
parked there too,Shanty & thier cars ended up as flat as pancakes, Its a
good thing no one was in that shanty that night, ha ha at least for 1
time the car knockers were actually out in the yard working.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 02 June 2011

Rotting grain? The rats love it.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 02 June 2011

Kyle

I definitely don't miss the smell of rotting grain on the ground after
a derailment. After a month or so the birds won't even touch it. There
top heavy always been known to easily derail. I know yard speed is max
10mph when someone would yard a grain train at that speed the cars
would rock heavily. Everytime one came in the yard we expected it to
derail at any moment.

Name: KYLE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 01 June 2011

Ya know speaking of derailments it seems to me for some odd reason that
loaded covered hoppers are much more pron to derailments than any other
type of rail car probably because they are very top heavy & many times
over loaded, Almost every yard derailment i have been involved with is
loaded coverd hoppers those 100 ton jumbo types, I have had them pik
switches for no reason at all & when they derail they always want to
lay over on thier sides like a dead elephant even at very slow speeds
so everyone should use caution when handling those type of cars as they
are really just so dam unpredictable & you can bet if the rr could load
them with 200 tons they would do it, also those high cube cars are a
pain in the butt too as they have those long drawbars and will derail
everytime when those drawbars by pass,,I really think we underestamte
things on the rr today as don,t forget yrs ago no rr had those big
heavy weight cars as everything was a 40 or 50 ft standard 60 tons at
the most, THat old saying i heard is true when i hired on, Never assume
anything on the rr as if you do then you are going to get into a lot of
trouble real fast.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 31 May 2011

Hey RRJ:

It's odd that these type of events occur in spurts...seems threes
is the unlucky number. I know they are all random occurrence but it
sure seems eerie!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 31 May 2011

NoMo

Looks like a bad week on the rails. In one CSX terminal/subdivision
last week they had a local rear end a grain train, after the head end
of the grain train was released for movement a woman committed suicide
by laying on the tracks in front of it, then another train crew got by
a stop signal all within a 24 hour span.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 30 May 2011

Thank you Crew Dispatcher for reminding me:

Conductor, engineer dead in CSX N.C. accident 
MINERAL SPRINGS, N.C. -- CSX conductor Phillip E. Crawford Jr., 33, and
locomotive engineer James Gregory Hadden, 36, were killed early May 24
in a rear-end collision here involving two CSX freight trains,
according to news reports. 

Crawford was a member of UTU Local 970, Abbeville, S.C. He signed on
with CSX in October 2005.

Two crew members on the lead train, which was hit from the rear,
suffered minor injuries, reported the Charlotte Observer.

In separate rail accidents in Texas and Iowa, two rail employees
suffered amputations when hit by trains in rail yards.

The National Transportation Safety Board and the Federal Railroad
Administration are investigating the North Carolina train collision,
and a member of the UTU Transportation Safety Team is assisting the
NTSB.

Mineral Springs is about 30 miles south of Charlotte, N.C., and about
30 miles east of Rock Hill, S.C.

A CSX spokesperson told the Associated Press that the rear-end
collision occurred on northbound tracks and involved one train enroute
to Hamlet, N.C., from New Orleans, and another enroute to Charlotte
from southern Georgia. Each train was pulled by two locomotives; one
pulling nine freight cars, and the other 12, said CSX.

Some 4,500 gallons of diesel fuel in the second train reportedly caught
fire following the accident. 

It has been a gruesome couple of days on the rails. 

In Ft. Worth, a BNSF switch foreman and UTU Local 564 member, Paul
Young, age 28 and with almost seven years' service, lost both legs and
an arm after being hit by a train in BNSF’s Alliance Terminal the
evening of May 23, reported the Ft. Worth Star-Telegram. Young, a
resident of Haslet, Texas, reportedly was performing a gravity switch
at an ethanol plant at the time of the accident.

And in Boone, Iowa, an unidentified Union Pacific employee was
airlifted to a hospital the morning of May 23 after behind hit by a
train and losing one arm, according to news reports. The employee was
exiting a locomotive when struck by a passing train, a UP spokesman
said. 
 
May 25, 2011

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Crew Dispatcher, for 20-30 years
Posted: 30 May 2011

Someone's ass should be gone with the 2 fatalities in NC   

Division Manager or Asst Division Manager  or maybe go higher and
higher.

This website has been down so we could not schedule nominations for 
correction.   

CSX-sucks needs more job titles too.

Name: KYLE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 30 May 2011

Oh yes rrj i re-call those old heads when i hired on, we called them
iron brakmen as they would never mark off, The thing that really pissed
me off is when conrail spider webbed the sen rosters, That took away a
lot of my senority as those guys from those other divisions came right
in and bumped us off the good jobs & it was the utu who agreed to that
& i will never forgive the utu for doing that, It was wrong plaine &
simple, The other thing that was wrong was the utu letting trainmen
take postions as ym,s & tm,s and still keep thier senority as a
trainman, It gave them one hell of a advantage as they could work in
managment as long as they liked and if they got fired or wanted to go
back in train service they could and did it,, The right way would have
been to let them go into managment if they wanted to do that, but if
they decided to come back in train service then they start out at the
bottom of the roster....

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 24 May 2011

NoMo

The railroad hasn't changed much except for it's management style.
Other than that it's always been required to spend time away from home
& family. A lot of those oldheads when I hired worked 90+ days straight
without taking time off then they'ld mark off a trip or two. Today
there are rest days & FRA manditory rest. Sure people could mark off
for up to 28 days back then without any reprocussions it wasn't a
perfect system. Those policies let those with other occupations
maintain their seniority. We had farmers, teachers ect...who worked a
weekend a month to keep benefits & retirement going after the crops
were in or school was out they worked fulltime on the railroad bumping
the younger person off a job. It was wrong. The union did what the
members wanted got rest days along with it came the restrictions. CSX
has gone overboard with it's policies. There no different than any
other corporation they want to get the job done with the least amount
of people. There are thousands waiting in line to get a job. Education
isn't a gaurentee anymore. Just about every bartender I know has a BS
or higher. We've seen a big shift in the work force in this country
it's not positive. One thing has always been consistent the railroad
isn't for everyone.

Name: Father Guido
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for N/A
Posted: 24 May 2011

Did any of you faithful participate in the 05/21/11 1800zulu rapture?? I
can't reach Dr. Harold Camping to see if I should attend an
investigation of the facts surrounding my responsibility, if any, for
failure to report to my regular assignment this past weekend.  

Management was supposed to be transferred to robo call and all i can
get is a real person whose location is now known. Nightmare, daystud,
guilding, past alpha, robo was transferred to management.

Just an answer begging a question!!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 23 May 2011

There's a lot of wisdom in the previous post by APE 20-30 when he
states..."The most depressing thing about the RR is the concept that
you CAN NEVER get another job as good as CSX, which will put anyone in
a blue funk".

CSX pays well and has good benefits but when you consider the hours
necessary to generate that $72,000 a year, the hourly rate is just 
average. Factor in that $3000 plus of that is detention time rotting in
some flea bag motel instead of being home with your family and/or
friends. On the NO&M you spent 16 hours in the hotel before detention
time started to run, then were on it for 8 hours, off for 8 and back on
continuous time. Ever notice how they call your train right before
detention tine starts?

If you do the math, all that off clock time really knocks your hourly
rate down...way down. If you look at it based on pay/hours(including
off clock)CSX is very average. Frankly, your far better off in yard
service...no loss.

He's also right about maintaining all certificates and licenses you
might have had before coming to CSX and taking advantage of the tuition
reimbursement program.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years
Posted: 23 May 2011

In re the depressed conductor and others similar: although CSX have many
drawbacks as an employer, they DO pay FULL college tuition for most
people. If you flunk out, quit, get a big discipline issue, etc. or
want to take music, theology, nursing, etc. you are SOL. However, $5k+
per year free from CSX can get you a bachelors TAX FREE, and a masters
(taxable income). If you don't "have time" Western Governors U.
among others is fully accredited AND 100% online (but you have to use
I-NET for study, not Farmville or Adult Friend Finder for the next 3
years). The most depressing thing about the RR is the concept that you
CAN NEVER get another job as good as CSX, which will put anyone in a
blue funk.It is sooo nice to have credentials or skills (certified
welder, first class auto mechanic, etc. not just a BS or MS)because you
can leave if you want to or have to. You may have a rough patch but
that's probably temporary. The people I talk to that view themselves
as permanently trapped here are the most depressed to talk to, and they
are potentially the sort that will go postal or have injuries. So pack
your escape parachute, put on your life preserver, skip watching
American Idol, and gear up for the emergency that may never happen.
BTW, if enough people bail out that sends a clear message to management
that treating employees fairly is the cost effective thing to do.

Name: Joe Preston Fan Club
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 20-30 years
Posted: 20 May 2011

System,

  HaHaHa!!!  I know some of those guys.  Kid Casad usually does well at
holding the truck seat down while watching others work.  Ralph really
pulled strings to keep him from getting canned the last time he piloted
a work group into someone's 707 without permission.
  Adam Flowers, I remember when he first came to Avon.  He would go out
of his way to tell you his daddy was Mike Flowers the BMWED rep.  He was
better at looking at himself in the mirror or being a milepost than a
trackworker.  He is the only one I know that could bid/bump into a
vehicle operator's job in Avon and not have a license.  ( It was
suspended at the time. )  Ralph and/or Clete would send somebody to
have him back in Avon by 3pm so he could get an early start home.
  Chuck Young,  he was a one man gang on his own payroll # and he had a
yellow CSX Tahoe he drove everywhere.  CSX really took care of him.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 20 May 2011

Systemworker

Did you dig back far enough when an Ex ConRail Railroad Foreman and the
Indy Railroad Cop's son got hit on a Rule G violation together by the
Cookie Monster after the Super Bowl.    Both tested positive  the kid
got back pretty quick but the Engineer had some time off but not bad
for his 3rd violation of Rule G.   Scruppa covered it up for them well
and maybe got some kick back or favors.

Indy Klu Klux Klan Observer

Indiana Birthplace of the KKK so be warn.

Name: SystemTrackWorker
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 20 May 2011

ConrailQuality2,

  CSX has their "Mutual Accountability Policy" that is supposed to be
the same for everyone but here is a list of some Indy boys that the
policy does not apply;

1)  Adam Flowers;  He ripped a boom off a truck ( left the boom laying
in the road ) by driving down the road and hitting a bridge with the
boom raised.  Another time he ripped down some utility lines by driving
down the road with the boom raised.  Major damage to CSX trucks and
potential harm to the public but he only received a slap on his wrist.
  His daddy is a union representative and he's tight with the ADE.  He
brags that he will get his daddy's job when he retires.

2)  Chuck Young;  He went shopping at Walmart on company time in a CSX
vehicle;  He hits a car, gets out to inspect the damage, gets back into
the CSX vehicle, parks in another area and continues to shop.  He
doesn't report anything but all this is caught on the Walmart security
cameras.  Security followed him around the store and obtained his name
from the credit card he used.  He didn't even know he was being
followed.
  The police call CSX and Chuck Young about the accident and they deny
that he or a CSX vehicle was there at all.  It wasn't until the video
footage was shown that Chuck, the ADE and co. came clean.  Nothing
happened but a wrist-slap for ol' Chuck.

3) Eric Casad;  He's had 2-3 "Life Critical Rule Violations" in 2-3
years but he's tight with the ADE and CSX/the ADE even lets him take
his CSX truck truck home and doesn't mind that he uses it as the
family car.  He brags he can get by with about anything.

4)  Dave Bales;  He backed into a utility pole in Avon Yards knocking
it over.  The signal people worked overtime to fix it.  Nothing
happened to DirtyDave, the ADE is tight with him too.

5)  Ed McCormick;  He can cuss out fellow employees and openly make
racial remarks about his dislike for latinos but he received a wrist
slap and a temporary assignment to the south.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 May 2011

Hey Other:

This explains it all...

       http://pespmc1.vub.ac.be/peterpr.html

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 19 May 2011

Pointspread Pauper how to you explain CSX's method of Dumbing down this
outfit with inexperience managers and stupid yes men.   Guess they can
plea they had no clue about the law and was clueless on what the hell
they were doing.   They just did what "THEY" told me to do.  Who is
THEY?


CSX Hillbilly Inbred Management Clan running a Multi-Billion Company
and Ward reaps the most reward.

Name: Pointspread Pauper
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 18 May 2011

This pertains to Norfolk Southern Internal Audit: #2009 - 178


Y'know it was alleged that for 7 years I went into the Las Vegas
Casinos and beat em' at their own game... never was it alleged that I
ever worked with any of the Casino staff... nope, I allegedly walked
right in there and whooped them at their own game... and each time I
allegedly walked in there, I allegedly was welcomed back by the pit.

The Casinos in Nevada are private clubs (one doesn't pay admission).
They can refuse to allow anyone to play.

I allegedly was always welcomed back with smiles & open arms, so the
"technical sophistication" of what I was allegedly doing had
absolutely nothing to do with me being WELCOMED BACK to play.

These boys thought they were going to recoup 7 years of losses PLUS get
whatever was in my wallet at the moment.

They were deceiving themselves, were they not?





These were some of the brightest Pit Bosses in the world.. the experts
in their field.

The Nation's 4 railroads and their executives/attorneys??? ...
they're the experts in their field, aren't they?



You guys at CSX, BNSF, Norfolk Southern and Union Pacific... are you
all a bunch of geniuses like those that resided in the Casino Pits?


"Never fear, rail transportation is the oxygen, blood supply of the
nation's economy... we've got the Interstate Commerce Clause
protecting us within the US Constitution and (as Dave Nelson stated)
the Congress and 50 US State Houses in a hammerlock"

You think that I don't know that?

Heck, let's throw in journalistic support also.



1)"Proof beyond a reasonable doubt" in judicial cases ... cascades
down to......
2)"Preponderance of the evidence" in civil cases... cascading down
once more to....
3)"what level of COMPLETE proof" in administrative decisions?

...any of you attorney guys in Jacksonville want to take a stab at the
answer?

More on that in a future posting.... but that is how the people of
Bellingham, WA are going to whip BNSF

That is how the people of Howard County, MD are going to stick it to
CSX.

Cameron Station(Alexandria), Va, Memphis, TN, La Salle, MS, the
communities along the CSX-Norfolk Line in Northern Ohio and McAlla,AL
.... that is how they will whip Norfolk Southern.

Union Pacific???

Can any of you guys in the nation's 4 railroads convince yourselves
that you're ALL THAT CLEVER/BRIGHT when one of the railroads goes out
joining with the FRA & UTU to constructively ADMIT that you terminate
the employment of workers who report "safety violations" by opening
up a pilot program with a "telephone hotline" similar to the NASA
Hotline after the Space Shuttle Challenger exploded?

You're not bright at all guys... neither were the Las Vegas Casino Pit
Bosses.



TO JENNIFER BROOKLAND and the Minneapolis Star-Tribune, the Press
Enterprise:
 You three newspapers  want another award-winning news story about an
alleged Las Vegas BLACKJACK CHEAT who is going to force the
resignations of the top two dozen key executives at the nation's 4
major railroads???

Now there's a story with a "hook" that'll grab the readers'
attention.... plus, it plays out over a length of time where you get
MULTIPLE STORIES to sustain your editors and it also REPEATEDLY
references your news articles.

That's correct, your news stories become the basis for future "public
policy formation" which makes for a truly safe rail industry.

So to the journalists... you're first question needing to be
answered... what standard fashions "complete proof" in administrative
cases?

Judge Maas's sanctions against BNSF (outlined in the award-winning
Minneapolis Star-Tribune story) were an "administrative decision"...
the overturned civil verdict itself was "preponderance of the
evidence".
 What standard of "complete proof" did Judge Maas base her sanctions
decision???




100% compliance with the Federal Regulations defines the MAXIMUM AMOUNT
of danger that the public is allowed to be placed.

Norfolk Southern is INTENTIONALLY ENDANGERING the safety of the
communities it passes through in its contract with United Parcel
Service.

In Vermillion, Ohio three schools are within a stone's throw of the
rails that carry "anhydrous ammonia" and "chlorine" (Press
Enterprise award-winning story)... They've handed out pamphlets to the
Vermillion residents outlining what to do if there is a spill.

They got US Congressman, Dennis Kucinich (Ohio D-10)to award the
communities along the CSX-Norfolk line with the "Triple Your Train
Traffic" Sweepstakes and then Norfolk Southern decides to endanger
those peoples lives in exchange for PROFIT with the UPS Contract.




So... that is today's tidbit for you at CSX Jacksonville to cipher
on...

1) We at CSX are much, much brighter/cleverer than the folks at Union
Pacific, Casino Pit Bosses & Pointspread Pauper

2) The standard of "complete proof" in administrative decisions is
what?

2a) corollary: the standard for deciding whether CRIMES have been
committed in "administrative decisions" is what????... are actual
"convictions" necessary?

3) Just how could the US Constitution's "Interstate Commerce Clause"
be overridden administratively and how could the state legislators and
US Congress be forced to grab a neutral corner( You'll see that in
action when Norfolk Southern voluntarily closes down the Cameron
Station (Alexandria) , Va. Ethanol Transloading Terminal)

....and last but not least... 

4) in a single-deck game of Blackjack with Las Vegas Strip rules... if
on the first hand dealt from a well-shuffled deck where you and the
dealer are the only two at the Blackjack  table.... what should you do
if the dealer shows a TEN UPCARD and you are stuck with a pair of
sevens???

Name: PointspreadPauper
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 May 2011

Dave Nelson contributing message poster to "CSX Sucks" and awardee who
received $1.18 million attendant to the "false claims act" will be
appointed by the US Attorney for the Judicial District of Northern Ohio
as an "Associate Czar" of the nation's 4 major railroads (CSX, Union
Pacific, Norfolk Southern, & BNSF)

Ruthlessly ruling the nation's 4 major carriers with an "iron fist"
alongside Dave Nelson will be his fellow appointee czars assigned also
by that same US Attorney:

1)CHIEF PROSECUTORIAL CZAR - Former Ohio Prosecutor of the Year and
ex-Lorain County Chief Criminal Prosecutor under former US Attorney,
Greg White, Jonathan Rosenbaum.

Jonathan Rosenbaum has been described by Elyria Ohio Police Officers as
a "pit bull" and by the incompetent "evidence officer" in the Lorain
County "Bolita" case as something even less polite.

Yes... Jonathan Rosenbaum is a mean/angry individual.





Just how mean/angry is Prosecutor Rosenbaum???

Jonathan Rosenbaum is "SO MEAN that he once shot a man for snoring too
loud"

Okay...my mistake; that was NOT Jonathan Rosenbaum who did that... that
was some 19th-century gunfighter from the TIME-LIFE book series titled,
"The Old West"

...but Prosecutor Rosenbaum is EVERY BIT AS MEAN as the guy who was so
mean that he once shot a man for snoring too loud.





2)ADMINISTRATIVE CHIEF OF ALL CZARS - Special Agent(ret), Mike Vahue of
the Cleveland, Ohio FBI Squad 3.

Someone who throughout his career set a standard of capable
professionalism that other FBI Agents nationwide could only hope to
follow (kind of like 007 without the penchant for gambling &
shaken/stirred martinis)

One can only hope a little of Agent Vahue's personality will rub off
on Prosecutor Rosenbaum... or one MOST LIKELY would hope that ALOT of
Agent Vahue's personality will rub off on Prosecutor Rosenbaum.





3)ENFORCER/HENCHMAN CZAR - Police Sergeant, Lou Testa of the Richfield,
Ohio Police Department (on "detached service")

This czar "takes names and kicks *sses"... this czar "shoots first
and asks questions later"... of course, I'm not trying to tell
Sergeant Testa how to do his job - but it JUST MIGHT be better to ask
questions FIRST so that you don't have to decipher what a suspect
writhing/screaming in pain is actually trying to tell you.




4) CAR WASHING CZAR - Hector Rivera of the Amherst, Ohio Police
Department... the other 3 czars can't be driving around in dirty
vehicles & only someone with numerically as many car washes "under his
belt" like Hector can be entrusted to do the job just right... just
have the Chief of the Amherst, Ohio Police Department show Hector what
desk drawer the "petty cash fund" is now being hidden in.




The nation's 4 railroads have all relied on the US Constitution's
mandate that the Congress govern Interstate Commerce.

There is only ONE non-seditious way for the local communities to assume
control and it can only be done in the presence of at least one of a
number of certain predicates.

The nation's 4 major carriers have each provide that predicate

This pertains to Norfolk Southern Internal Audit: #2009-178 as well as
to....

.... the CSX Palank "Orlon Switch" case...

...the BNSF case before the Minnesota Supreme Court (Judge Ellen Maas
from Anoka being the court of original jurisdiction)...

...and MOSTLY TO the BIG, BIG DUMMIES at Union Pacific who were stupid
enough to constructively admit that an ANONYMOUS TELEPHONE HOTLINE was
needed so that Union Pacific employees could report regulatory
violations without being fired/terminated.


Speaking of czars...

...did you all knowwwww...

...that prior to the 1917 revolution the people of Russia were
penniless, except for the Czar... who was Nicholas

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 15 May 2011

NoMo

I know all about FMLA. It's not that easy CSX determines wether it'll
be approved or denied even if it's approved it could have restrictions
attached. I applied for it back in 2006 & 2007 to help my Mom who lived
600 miles away when she became ill CSX denied the application. I had to
use up all vacation time, PL days, even had people giving me their PL
days and CSX still sent me 5 investigation letters for attendance.
Lucky my LC & RFE squashed most of them I finally agreed to sign one
for 2 days overhead. In 2009 when I applied for myself CSX granted it
but it was so retrictive it wasn't worth it. I've known people who
abused it. I knew one that had it for his wife problem was she didn't
know about it. He marked off just about every weekend told her he was
on a work train with weekends off. Anyone who would use it just for
time off makes it difficult for those who really need it. There's
another solution to getting time off quit.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 May 2011

Hey Con 1-10:

FMLA has to be approved by CSX so it isn't magic and there are posters
here that will tell you so!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 15 May 2011

csx has a strict availability policy & I'm sure that every railroader
knows the answer to the attendance policy & the bids system, its 4
powerful letters, FMLA !!! haha! just like magic!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 15 May 2011

worked 6 straight days & since computer could not count the starts after
5, 6 did not register & reset the start count & was not given the fra
mandate of 48hr rest. advised caller & over the phone counted starts
together & cmc stated could not adjust even though is very apparent
that have worked 6starts in 6 days.

Name: ConrailQuality2
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 10-20 years
Posted: 14 May 2011

We were told at a union meeting that somewhere in the Ohio area this
past April, two of CSX's finest;  a track inspector and his helper for
the day were backing up on the rail and managed to back into a stopped
train.  The impact really messed up their truck.
  The ADE and their union rep. put them back to work with a slap on the
wrist.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 11 May 2011

NOMO

The Rail accident at Slaughters, KY

My comments, 50 to 60mph for 121 is correct. This the Division that I
worked on the L&N. Evansville to Nashville.

Best Engineer the L&N had was born there, and now lives there forever.

Hugh Higgins
May he rest in Peace.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 09 May 2011

Those pictures of the CSX bridge truck ( Nashville Divison ) that got
hit last June by a CSX train are posted now.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 May 2011

A person who has been dismissed from CSX is no longer an employee at
that time until an arbitrator makes their decision.  They are under no
obligation to CSX.
  How can the company file additional charges and command the person to
attend a hearing when that person is dismissed?

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 09 May 2011

If you read my post I had to look up Weingarten Rights to see what it
was. It didn't specify that those under the RLA were exempt. Did you
learn this info from Baker? The only time I ever ran into him was about
twice a year one to sign my FRA cert card the other during the face to
face class if he ran it. In fact Scott Cox ran the last class I went to
I had to ask him who he was turned out he was the Peninsula TM for two
years but I didn't know it. I'm not like some people never went up to
the offices unless I had to. To many people in Richmond think TM's are
their friend. That's the big difference between my generation and
yours. Heck, just look at some peoples FB list you'll see TM's on it.
There to dumb to realise they can now see every post that person
responses to. I've even warned both LC's that some of their members
are posting on FB while on duty. It's still happening. If they get
busted no sympathy.

Name: Weingarten Rightz?
E-mail: Bullshidt@CSX.com
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 08 May 2011

Got news for you all, Employees in industries covered by the Railway
Labor Act (such as airline workers and us) and public sector employees
do not have Weingarten rights; however, they may have similar rights
via collective bargaining agreement. Public sector employees may also
have similar rights via state law. 

Look it up, RRJ  didn't John Baker ever tell you this?

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 May 2011

Hey APE 1-10:

The UTU talks the talk. These guys travel around to terminals
giving lessons about diversity and harassment. Se if they walk the
walk!

   http://www.utu.org/worksite/contactrights.htm

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 08 May 2011

APE 1-10

The point is do you want to fight for your job. At the hearing you will
be able to have union representation and provide evidence. If all you
had is the cell numbers the text messages came from then one would make
it CSX's responsibilty to investigate it further. That's not naming
names. Post-poning investigations is common practice sometimes it's at
CSX's request others times it's from the union. Even with a
termination it's not the end there are the appeals.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 08 May 2011

RRJ,

  My Weingarten Rights were ignored.  The hearing officer claimed he
had never heard of the Weingarten Rights and continued to ask questions
and demand answers.  I was not allowed to speak to my union rep. for
further advice.  ( He was down the hall)
  I was orignally charged and later dismissed for misuse of a
cell-phone.  My B&B supervisor paid me $35. per month to use my phone,
which makes the charges seem rather silly.  I was receiving vulgar text
messages from a couple of co-workers.  The other 2 were charged with the
same offence but were allowed to return to work. ( they testified for
the company and said the supervisor and the foreman didn't know what
was going on. )
  The company was trying to get me to drop some names on record at the
other person's hearing.  I just knew what number the texts came from,
not who had actually sent the texts. ( someone else could have been
using that phone. )

  After I was dismissed, I receive a letter stating I have to attend a
hearing for insubordination.  This hearing has been post-poned 2-3
times before even though I made the drive once already.  They now want
me attend the rescheduled hearing.  Who's to say they won't post-pone
this one again, plus I already dismissed.  What's the point?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 08 May 2011

RRJ,

  The driver of the CSX bridge truck parked on the main line crossing,
someone then got out of the truck to set an advance "firecracker"
sign for the 707.  The driver was using his phone while the other
person was setting the sign.  As the driver was getting back in, a
train showed up.  They were out of the 707 limits and the 707 had not
gone into effect yet.
  That's the "unofficial - official" story that was relayed to us. 
The train that hit them was one of CSX's high-dollar intermodal
trains; 121 or 120.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 08 May 2011

APE 1-10

Did CSX refuse you the right to have union representation? I had to
look up Weingarten Rights. If they did refuse your request for union
representation it violated your rights unless you gave permission to
continue without representation. If your rights were violated it should
be grounds for an appeal.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 08 May 2011

Was the CSX truck on the tracks meaning not just sitting across the
tracks but was it set up to ride on the rails? In those cases a Train
Dispatcher must be notified to block trains from entering the specific
territory. The person in charge would of been required to notify the TD
of the locations, time on track, and when they are in the clear of the
mainline. CSX high railer trucks can't set up the signal system so TD
protection is required. If they weren't running on the track it's
more confusing trying to guess why someone would sit on a mainline. Why
would the other three not object? I've known about truck high railers
getting hit by trains in the past. Sometimes it was the TD fault other
times it was the track workers not clearing up within a specific
timeframe. This has led to rules to ensure that nothing enters until
the mainline is known to be clear once work authority has been granted.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 08 May 2011

RRJ

  This would be a separate hearing.  I was charged with insubordination
for not answering certain questions regarding a coworker ( after I've
already been dismissed from service).  My union representative told me
to invoke my "Weingarten Rights".  That didn't do me any good.  Why
does the company need to waste their time and money to have a hearing
for an employee they have already dismissed?  That employee and another
already made a deal with the company to testify against me in order to
keep their jobs.
  There is a little more to my story regarding the harassment;  The
foreman and the supervisor/manager knew what was going on for months
and did nothing (but laugh ).  When Jacksonville was informed, all
stops were pulled to cover it up.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 08 May 2011

APE 1-10

Contact your union local chairmen. If you've already been terminated
by CSX this sounds like an arbitration hearing. It could possibly get
your job back. I've seen people get their job back thru an arbitrator
with all backtime monies. I'm sure there is more to the story one
doesn't get terminated for requesting racial & sexual harrassment to
end.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 May 2011

NoMo,

  I submitted some pictures, hopefully they will be posted soon.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 May 2011

Hey Friend:

A CSX truck does change things. Either the truck or the train wasn't
were it was suppose to be. One thing is certain, CSX is at fault, thus
the large settlements.

At 50+ MPH it's a miracle anyone lived. I'm not sure if CSX reported
to the police since it was a company truck on CSX property. Although I
haven't yet done a thorough search, I haven't found anything
mentioning the accident. 

Slaughters, KY with a population of 238 apparently is nothing more than
a cross roads community.

I did however find this that I found interesting:

  http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread210207/pg%23pid4013086

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 May 2011

NoMo,

  I think you misunderstood what happened on June 16, 2010 near
Slaughters, KY.  There was a CSX ( bridge crew ) truck parked on the
main line, sitting on the crossing.  There were four people in that
truck.  
  A train came by and hit them at around 50-60 mph.  It's known that
the driver was texting and the company swept that under the rug.  One
of the passengers is messed up for life.  The four occupants will all
get large sums of money and the train crew gets a mark on their record
for being involved in an accident.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 08 May 2011

Mr. Ward and stockholders,

  D.J. Murphy;  Director of Operations Support continues to send
certified letters to a former employee commanding him to attend a "CSX
hearing" at his own expense.

A.  The person doesn't work at CSX anymore.
B.  The person just doesn't have the money to travel at whim on a
short notice at his own expense.  He's unemployed, remember?

C.  Mr. Murphy & Co. is wasting the stockholder's money.  The postage
cost so far for the various certified letters is around $30.  plus the
cost of paying a clerk to type the letters and take them to the post
office.  The person could be doing something else instead;  Remember,
the person they are sending the letters to has already been dismissed.

D.  The former employee was "railroaded" by just asking for the
racial slurs, sexual slurs,butt/crotch grabbing  and  harassment to
stop.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 05 May 2011

Hey Friend:

I would think any claim the passengers have would be against the 
owner of the car, whether or not the driver owned the vehicle.

The driver was trespassing and not entitled to anything...parked on the
tracks sounds like a suicide or attempted suicide. CSX will try to reach
a settlement because it's cheaper than defending a law suit,
even if there is no liability.

I'm not sure what your definition of large sized is but I doubt it
will be enough to quit their jobs or by a condo on the beach!

Name: Brian Clark
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 1-10 years
Posted: 05 May 2011

I was being harassed all the time by fellow employees;  a couple of
genius' started rumors that I was gay with the supervisor, Amish, put
up with racial comments about my wife and son, and had a difficult time
usung the CSX radio because one of the guys had a recording he would
play over the radio while I was trying to get track and time.  Other
things were done as well but it's a long list.
  The supervisor and the foreman must have thought this was all cute
since nothing was done about it but laugh.
  When this all came to light, there was a hearing for me and 2 of the
guys harassing me.  I was fired for using a cellphone at work that I
was paid $35. per month to use. ????
  The other 2 guys went back to work even though 1 was on probation for
causing an accident to another employee earlier.  Hearsay and who you
know goes a long way at CSX.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for N/A
Posted: 05 May 2011

The officials know that the CSX clown who was hit by a train June 16th,
2010 in Kentucky was texting while parked on a crossing that has trains
cruising by at 50-60 MPH.
  The driver as well as the other 3 passengers will get a large-sized
claim but the company never tried to get his phone/text records.  Go
figure?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 04 May 2011

Reference to our Safety Suckoff and Ratout Committee 

Employees will drop a dime on someone to stay on this Committee to get
out of work and go drinking afterwards.

Just a Drinking Committee in hiding.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for N/A
Posted: 03 May 2011

If you really knew me jerkwad. You would of known I quit the safety
committee several times. The division members kept voting me in. I'm
the one who suggested putting safety committee member slots on the
ballot during elections for division officers. That way no one would be
bought out by being hand picked by CSX. I see you people got what you
want look whose on it now. I hear a lot of complaints. Some are marked
off on weekends ect...that I gaurentee never happened when I was on it.
The only day off was for the monthly meeting. I did some of the cookouts
till the GC stated the BLE wouldn't participate. My records clean. My
guess is you're "the man whore". I'll skip your first name those in
Richmond will already know you. I might be wrong but I think not. Being
"the man whore" made you look foolish not because it meant you get a
lot of women it's an insult over a moron that bragged about being a
married swinger. Wife left you because she still liked to swing while
you were gone. You're the only one I ever had a problem with petty
jealousy over my generation.

Name: Troy B &  Lee H
E-mail: BLE532@msn.com
Employed as: APE, for 30+ years
Posted: 03 May 2011

HEY RICHMOND, REMEMBER JG MOLTER, SAFETY SUCK? HE IS RETIRED AND NOW
SPENDS HIS DAYS ON CSX-SUCKS.COM....HE MISSED SUCKING OFF THE
TRAINMASTER'S FOR SAFETY MONEY AND OVERTIME, SO MUCH, THAT WHEN HE
RETIRED HE HEARD ABOUT THIS WEBSITE.  HE THOUGHT "CSX SUCKS" WAS A
WEB SITE WHERE HE COULD HOOK UP WITH CSX MANAGERS AND SUCK THEM OFF,
JUST LIKE HE DID EVERYDAY AT FULTON. 

WE STILL GOTTA WORK OUT HERE IN THIS SHITTY WORLD THAT HIS GENERATION
LEFT US, AND HE HAS THE BALLS TO COMMENT OF WHAT OUR JOBS ARE LIKE. 

MOLTER ONE WORD FOR YOU: "R-E-T-I-R-E" 

WHAT A PIECE OF SHIT...

Name: ASS CLOWN
E-mail: JON_BAKER@CSX.COM
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 03 May 2011

MOLTER IF YOU KNOW ME, OUT ME, OTHERWISE SHUT UP.

YOURE RETIRED AND LIKE NOMO ARE NO MORE.  GO ENJOY YOUR SAFETY
COMMITTEE MONEY YOU GOT FOR TOSSING THE TRAINMASTER'S MEAT IN THE
UPSTAIRS OFFICES AT FULTON.

BAKER

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 02 May 2011

Alright dipschit you know me. You afraid to state your name? That's not
nice. People should be allowed to keep their anonimity if they so
desire. I have a feeling I already know who you are. I also know
you'll never fit in my shoes. You'll always be mediocre. If you
notice I left out my handle on this one. If you have a problem with me
we can meet somewhere it won't be nice. I gaurentee.

Name: JG MOLTER 
E-mail: ASS_CLOWN@CSX.COM
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 01 May 2011

Name: Dong Bageley 
E-mail: DavidBrownsbitch@csx.com
Employed as: M of W, for 1-10 years
Posted: 01 May 2011

Does anyone know why Scott Younger left Evansville for North Carolina?
Looks like Evansville gets a new terminal manager.

-------------------------

PROBABLY PROMOTED TO TERMINAL SUPERINTENDENT AT HAMLET, NC. SUPT THERE
SENT TO NETWORK OPERATIONS IN JACKSONVILLE.

Name: Dong Bageley 
E-mail: DavidBrownsbitch@csx.com
Employed as: M of W, for 1-10 years
Posted: 01 May 2011

Does anyone know why Scott Younger left Evansville for North Carolina?
Looks like Evansville gets a new terminal manager.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 01 May 2011

Hey RRJ:

In regard to the house by the crossing...I'm willing to bet it was
priced to sell! Can you say red flag?

There's a sucker born every second.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 01 May 2011

NoMo

You have to love it. Someone buys a house next to a siding or by a
crossing then complains about the noise. It shouldn't be to bad today
the rules require all locomotives except the lead be shut down while
waiting for fuel conservation if I can remember right if they're
informed by the TD it'll be for over 15 minutes. I remember one
individual who lived next to a crossing when we came thru he loved
giving us the finger. I couldn't help think what a moron who was the
idiot that bought the house in the first place. I was sitting in the
crew room one evening when the phone rang this poor woman called
wanting to know the train schedules. Apparently the real estate agent
told her CSX didn't run trains except in daylight hours and it was
only 1 or 2 a day. This was a busy mainline with 12-15+ trains a day
24/7. I told her if she had it in writing she had a good lawsuit
against the agent who sold her the house. I live 5-6 miles from the
nearest mainline I can hear them blowing at the crossing during the
night. It's a faint sound which is just music to my ears.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 30 April 2011

Hey other:

Next time don't buy a house at the end of a siding...or even within a
couple of miles of the track and you won't have that problem again.

I'll bet the track was there when you bought the house and you knew
it!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 30 April 2011

CSX most definitely sucks!  They must hire the most ignorant rednecks
and imbeciles to drive their trains.  They park the trains too close to
houses, and sit there running the train, torturing the residents and
filling their houses with exhaust fumes.  The vibration and blast from
the idling trains shakes your internal organs and the fumes make you
sick.  They make such an incredible racket that the people who live
near the tracks are physically ill after only half an hour or so, and
these trains will park there running and blasting for anywhere from two
to 18 hours at a time.  It's literally like being in an earthquake for
hours without any break.  

I'm sure the fools who are parking these trains like that think that
they are some kind of bigshots, driving a train, disturbing the peace,
blasting out their big noisy air and filthy, sickening fumes all night
and day.

I think that CSX is the MOST unprofessional company I've ever had the
misfortune to deal with.  If you complain, the petty little twerps
actually retaliate by parking more often and making even more noise and
stink.  Some of the hick engineers even sit there and blow the horns
while clicking and blasting out their noisy exhaust.  I personally
think these particular engineers should not only be fired and banned
from ever driving another train, but also be arrested and charged with
harassment, assault and disturbing the peace.  When you are making
innocent people physically ill with your behavior, you are trying to
injure or kill them.

I really hate CSX and their horrible, mentally ill engineers. 

CSX SUCKS!

Name: KYLE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for N/A
Posted: 27 April 2011

To rrj, yea know there was also a lot of good TM,S& rfe,s that i
personaly worked for and even some kewel supers too, I worked with
under Mr wyatt TM for many years one of the kwelest dude you would want
to meet, His thing was get the job done doing it the safe way and then
go home with the EQ In fact i took him home 1 day after getting a EQ as
his car broke down , Hell he would even cover up minor yard de-railments
for us, So yes we worked our butts off for him as he did us favors and
in return we did him & the company favors too,  yes thats how it worked
untill the ns-csx takeover of conrail, then these pricks got in there
and put a royal screw job to everything and every one, Now ha ha just
run over a de-rail and get 1 wheel on the ground and its a major
investagtion with harsh disipline along with being taken to a hosptial
for a drug test, and that is why the rr sucks today, When Mr wyatt was
the TM at my lil yard, i got past a RED BOARD in a interlocking plant
and even ran the elecrtic switch, yea fucked things up big time i did,
yea we had a investagation over that, all me and the hogger got was 3
days on paper over that, Do that today and you are FIRED,My god how
times have changed for the worse.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 27 April 2011

binheer2long

Yea, we know a lot of the same people. You probabley knew Mike Wren
when he was a yardmaster in CF last time I saw him we were swapping
crews at Browns Island he was working as the LE on a ID. Pat Moriarity
last I knew was still working he should be getting close to retirement.
Tom Berry was a good Road Foremen he was old school. Glenda & Steve knew
them when I stayed in the cubicles in CF. Train #90 goes back a ways.
It's hard to fathom trying to run 179 cars on a grain train up
Allegany Mt or anywhere else. Back around 5 years or so they tried
running 160+ coal trains trying to get them up the hill out of Richmond
to News a lot of them got knuckles, drawheads, and one train even
derailed. It was short lived. All the railroads are going that route
heavier longer trains.

Name: binheer2long
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 27 April 2011

Hey HTL--Just caught your post--I had never make the connection!! Are
you at the Villages or Lady Lake?? Do not be driving while "loaded"!!
The weather is still too wet to go north, give it a couple of more
weeks.

Name: Binheer2long
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 26 April 2011

Hey--RRJ
I was never in train service or MofW!! But I have been on trains from
Cincy to News, from Waycross to Nashville, New Castle to RJ Tower in
Philly. The last time I came down Alleghany was either with Steve (SK)
Bennett or Bill Bennett on the helper, I can't remember which. But I
knew several of the Alleghany crews from Jerry Foster to Thomas Sea,
and I was working when Doug Dillon took, I think it was #90, from
Russee to Clifoe, account no crews available in Hintoe. West out of
Hinton was Hintow!

At Clifton Forge I knew Mike Wren, Glenda Fields, Tom Berry, and
several really nice folks but I cannot remember Mary in the Bull Pen.
And yes, I knew Angie and Wes. And I used to exchange Christmas cards
with Pat & Jessee Moriarty--are they still with us??

As for ID crews, the last I remember about Lynchburg there was not room
to try to make it a crew change point. Trying to get to the Big Island
and the other local work would prohibit doing it on the main line. This
might get interesting.

And what is this I heard about taking 179 loaded grain down Alleghany
last week?? I think I would have refused for safety reasons!!

Now I have to make a confession--I have no clue who Goober is but I
probably have met him different times. I have been in the tower in
Fulton (yes, I took the elevator all the way to the top floor) several
times.

I think you told me once before, but where did you go to college??

Will be back in about a week--take care!!

Name: JP
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for N/A
Posted: 26 April 2011

fuck all of you assholes. CSX kicks ass

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 26 April 2011

J.V. "PISSYPANTS" MILLER  SELKIRK NY   SOMEBODY PUNCHED THAT PIECE OF
CRAP J.V. AND HE PISSED HIS PANTS AAAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

Name: htl
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 26 April 2011

nomo,

Dont even bring up shuffle board....them old coots hustled me all
winter, I need to practice but there isnt any courts up north!

Im loaded and ready for take off.....why is everyone on the road an
idiot except for me?

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 26 April 2011

HTL

I sort of figured that out two different people. You're still the one
an only "Pop's". 


Sonny

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 26 April 2011

Hey HTL:

It's good to hear from you...I hope you're leaving with all the
"Blue Hairs" happy! Has the Shuffle Board game gotten any better?

Well I don't think you missed much except a miserable winter up
yonder...you'll be back just in time to get your yard in shape!

Stay in touch...

Name: here to long
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 26 April 2011

hey nomo & sonny,

I am heading back up north from Fla this week and thought I would check
in on the csx sucks site and I see you guys are still pounding on the
keys here.
I also want to make a statement that "binheer2long" is in no way
related to me.......thats my story and Iam sticking to it! 

from the rumors I get about working for CSX are true god help the new
hires they wont ever make their thirty years here.
oh it used to  be so much fun on the RR..... till they made it a job.

well Ill check on next fall when I head back to watch palm trees
blowing on the back nine!

H.T Long

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 24 April 2011

That Fat Queer should fit in well with Gay Atlanta.  His dream location
and job.    Still poping those Valiums and pills so you can fuck over a
T&E guy and not feel anything.     You have to be on Drugs and Blue Kool
Aid to work a CSX Manager Job.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 24 April 2011

Brian Barr is Assistant Division Manager at Atlanta Division.

Name: safety is spelled FELA
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 24 April 2011

Anybody know where that fat ass Brian Barr wound up? For those of you
who work around that piece of shit, watch out'

Name: KYLE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 24 April 2011

Yes rr retirement is much better than ssi payments,Way better only now
you got a bunch of looney teabagers in congress who want to take that
away from rr workers along with destroying every union they can and the
sad part is many of our union bros&sisters voted for those neo-nazies on
thier promise to make new jobs which was nothing but a big smoke screen
to cover what thier real intentions were and they are now proving what
they are all about as wisconsin & ohio are very good examples as these
rat bastards are in a all out war aginst the american worker, And was
it not these same moronic peeps who kept saying obma & the dems are the
ones who are taking away peoples rights, Yea got to LMFAO on that
one,The only ones who these new elected teabaggers have aligence too is
the KOCH bros & big busniess as now they can close more factories in the
usa and move them to china for those good paing 50 cents per hr jobs
with more child labor, My god, american voters are a stupid bunch as
they are the only ones who will vote aginst thier own intrest.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 24 April 2011

RETIRED NOW, HAD A 36 YEAR CAREER. IT WAS MOSTLY MISERABLE. FOR THE LAST
10 OR 12 YEARS OF MY CAREER I REALIZED THAT CSX IS JUST A JOB. DON'T
TRY TO MAKE A SILK PURSE OUT OF A SACK OF PIG DUNG. JUST A JOB, IT WILL
NEVER CHANGE, JUST GO TO WORK, & GO HOME, GET YOUR MONEY & GO HOME &
FORGET THAT CSX EVEN EXIST UNTIL YOU DRIVE BACK ON THE PROPERTY. IF YOU
ARE IN LOWER MANAGEMENT, YOU ARE SCREWED. IF YOU TRY TO MAKE RAILROADING
MORE THAN JUST A JOB, CSX WILL CONSUME YOU. THE RAILROAD IS NOT YOUR
LIFE. YOUR LIFE IS YOUR FAMILY & YOUR HOME..    IT IS JUST A JOB....  
YES, IT DOES SUCK..  GET THROUGH IT, YOU'RE GOING TO LOVE RETIREMENT..
  THERE ARE 6 SATURDAYS & 1 SUNDAY EVERY WEEK.. THE RETIREMENT PLAN IS
SO MUCH BETTER THAN SOCIAL SECURITY, IT WILL MAKE ALL OF THE LONG HOURS
AND BEING AWAY FROM YOUR FAMILY & MISSING MOST OF YOUR KIDS GROWING UP
EVENTS WORTH IT, MAYBE EXCEPT FOR THAT MISSING THE KIDS THINGY, IT WILL
BE WORTH YOUR WHILE. ALL OF THOSE CROSSING ACCIDENTS, I PERSONALLY WAS
IN MORE THAN 60. SEEING PEOPLE CUT IN HALF, PEOPLE WITH THEIR HEADS CUT
OFF, DEAD, BRAINS ON THE FRONT OF THE ENGINE. CRUSHED, DEAD BABIES &
CHILDREN, SEVERED ARMS, LEGS, THE SMELL OF SOMEONES GUTS OPENED & FECAL
MATTER, YOU WILL NEVER FORGET THOSE SMELLS & SIGHTS. YOU WILL HAVE
EARNED YOUR RETIREMENT. SO ENJOY IT. YOU'RE GOING TO LOVE IT... DID I
SAY, "IT'S JUST A JOB."

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 April 2011

Rest in peace my dear Brother. Gone but never forgotten. Guess I will
never know what happened that tragic day June 2011.CSX does suck!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 16 April 2011

Kyle

I wouldn't say I know a lot one must learn from others experiences.
That applied when I first started out railroading and continued till I
retired. Incidences like El Cajon Pass and there was another one on the
CP or CN with runaways make a person more aware that schidt at anytime
could hit the fan. The one in Canada they were picking up cars on a
mine run the trainmen didn't place air of the cars while doubling over
tracks unfortunately they had released all the hand brakes without the
engineers knowledge. When the engineer was given the go ahead for
another double the train started picking up speed on the grade and it
went out of control. He did everything he could to stop or slow it down
plus he was heading towards to mainline off the branch line with another
train coming on the main. The dispather tapes the engineer told the TD
to tell his family he loved them that most likely he wasn't going to
live thru itand if he did make it he was going to tunrn in his
resignation and retire. He hit the curve and the locomotive and train
derailed. When rescue crews should up they figured he was a goner but
deep in the woods he was still alive. He went to retired the railroad
tried to hang him but in a Canadian court he was cleared of all
charges. Blame was placed where it belonged on the trainmen.

Name: KYLE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 16 April 2011

To rrj, man you know a lot, thats all i can say, But in that el cajon
pass derailment i don,t think any dynamic braking would have prevented
what happend, from what i read they had 4 units 2 on the front 2 on the
rear, and yes i seen that vid too and i was surprised there were peeps
who survived it, But as i said the icc report said all the brake shoes
were burnt off when they did the investagation some of the remains of
the brake shoes were even welded into the car wheels, It don,t take
much as one time on level track i had to stop for a sticking brake on 1
car and when i walked back to check it out the brake shoes were worn to
almost nothing and the wheels on just that 1 car were cherry red and we
only went 4 miles like that, So what i am saying it don,t take to long
for them to overheat like that and to get the wheels cherry red, There
is a law of physics apply, i like to call it the point of no return,
like going down a 2% grade and you lose it at say 40 mph, the brakes at
that point even if you dump it, you have no braking power at all, you
ran away as the kenitc energy overcomes the braking power, Its likke
say you are running as a human down a steep hill and try to stop in a
instant, well that don,t happen and that applies to the rr as you are
not going to stop esp 10 thousand tons, I am sure there is a phycics
formula to figure this out.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 16 April 2011

binheer2long

You worked out of Hinton to Clifton Forge. I use to work the ID's out
of CF to Richmond. I spent about 3 1/2 years staying at the Clifton
Forge Inn in those cubicles using reverse lodging from 1996-1999 when
they moved the Richmond ID's up there. Spent a lot of time in the
Bullpen (resturaunt) BSing with you boys from Hinton. Last year I
stopped by CF while passing thru on I64 it was sad to see the
resturaunt was closed down. Those women that ran the place took good
care of the crews. Especially Mary on third shift she always packed me
a good lunch and just for kicks complained to me about when was last
time I cleaned out my thermos. If I remember right her husband was an
engineer in Covington Yard. CSX has served section 6 notices to change
the ID's from Hinton to Lynchburg and Lynchburg to Newport News.
Hinton & Newport News will be the home terminals. They'll haul the
trains going to Hampton Roads. The other trains like grain, power plant
coal ect...will still use Hinton freight pools & ID's from CF to
Richmond.

Name: Binheer2long
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 16 April 2011

Sorry about the mountain spelling, my two year old grandson was sitting
on my lap helping me write.

Name: Binheer2long
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 April 2011

Thanks, Guys--I did not know about the heat factor and the other info
about bleed off's, recharging, and the set off run aways were exactly
the answers I needed. I have been on 20,000 ton coal trains going down
Alleghany into Covington. After Jerry's Run, I had no clue what was
going on, but I did know that if we derailed, I would need a big lunch
if we went over the side of the moiuntain or I would starve to death
before we hit the bottom.

Ain't retirement great!!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 15 April 2011

Kyle

Another factor in the incident at El Cajon pass was two out of the four
locomotives on the head end had dynamic braking problems. I remember
hearing the dispatcher tapes of the helper engineer on the rear
screaming out about the runaway picking up speed. It was chilling. The
other factor was a clerk guesstimating the weight of the cars.

Name: KYLE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 15 April 2011

All i know is that going down the allegeny mountains you must not make a
running release and that rule is still in effect, I guess it came from
the steam days when the locomotive charging systems were not as good as
they are today, The other thing is the new abdw brake vales on newer
cars, If you set a cut of them out without a total air dump, Ie making
a application then closing the angel cock on the cut, those have a
quick release feature and they will bleed themselfs off and run away,
As far as pulling the bleeding rod, that only will release the air in
the brake cylinder, to get all the air out of the aux & emg reseviors
you have to hold the bleed rod out for a few min,, Most runaways today
occur due to overloading which heats the brake shoes up real fast hence
no braking power, A good example was that major derailment at cajon pass
in cal a few yrs ago when a 66 car overloaded soda ash train ran away,
each car was overloaded by about 20 tons from what i read on the icc
report and all the brake shoes were burned off, The only runaway i
re-call is a rail train that ran away on the mountain a few yrs ago and
that was caused by worn brake shoes & excissive piston travel on the
cars, Think a few car knockers got fired over that deal.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 April 2011

Goober...your age is showing!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 April 2011

PISSING AWAY THE AIR,

This goes back more than 50 years ago, and this is what and how it
happened.

90-lbs brakes cold- move the train brake from run to lap, 1 indent.
leakage will start to set the brakes on the first car and filter thru
the train. Move the lever farther and ya start to get blowby the
farther the more ya get. The next ident is you guessed it E. The skill
came from how well the train was stretched, or bunched, and how well
the air was managed, with the power setting.

When an air pipe reduction is made, it comes from the braking side of
the car cylinder which applies the brakes, that is air pressure off of
one side. that cylinder also has a pressure side that is fed from the
locomotive air system. in simple terms the brake cylinder is in balance
when running, and being charged, any thing less is an application.

Now the real problem is heat from brake application and brake fade as
it is commonly called. Cold is good and hot is BAD. On a long hill the
brakes are applied, get hot, engineer reduces the braking effort by
recharging the system to keep from stopping and then goes back for a
little more brake and it is not there at near the level it was at the
first application, so he gets a bigger reduction, more pressure on hot
Brakes. This continues until there is no more to get and the speed is
too fast with no E to add. Remember there is 90lb and no more, and even
if there were it would not matter Heat took every option away.

New brakes I am sure are much better, however this is what it was in my
old days.

Name: Binheer2long
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 April 2011

RRJ

Thanks, I think I've got the picture now. 

When you pulled a train by the rear brakeman and he pulled the little
lever on the brake piston and the air went pssssssss- did that release
the stored air in that piston that was supposed to be used for an
emergency application, leaving practically no air brakes on that car??
or would it eventually reset itself??

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 14 April 2011

Lloyd

Bid systems wasn't a new concept. I worked under a bid system in
Walbridge, Ohio on the C&O back in the '70s they ran for a month. I'm
not sure about the UTU when it was voted in on the BLET SSA the bids
were for only one week. My complaint it should of at least been for two
weeks one entire half. Gone are the days of being unassigned. Gone are
the days of taking a few extra days off before marking up after
vacation. If a person works a yard job they could lose a days pay
account of not being rested the first day of the new bid. It was the
younger railroader that embraced bid systems feeling that it gaurenteed
them a job. If a person has dual seniority both as engineer & trainmen
they need to make sure that both bid screens are filled out. I've seen
people cut back to trainmen get set up as engineer then forced to
locations 300 miles away because no one bid. It is a double edged
sword.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 14 April 2011

binheer2long

"Pissing the air away" goes back a ways mabey 20+ years ago. For
decades air brake systems were using AB & ABD brakes on freight cars
most were a mix of brake systems. Under these types of systems air
brakes were applied & released by each individual car independently not
in unison. It took a while to restore the air in the brake cylinders.
When an engineer made a reduction it could take up to 7+ minutes to
recharge during that time if the brakes were released like braking on a
grade and another application was needed it might not of happened.
Cabooses were important back then when a train was leaving the terminal
or on a pick up/set off the conductor & flagmen would watch the train
roll out bleeding off any stuck brakes which on average it was 10-20
cars. Todays freight cars can recharge in a fraction of the time
applying and releasing similtaniously never pissing away the emergency
reserve.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 April 2011

Hey Other:

Fred Gibbs was murdered during a robbery while on duty...not in a SOFA
incident!

Name: Binheer2long
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 13 April 2011

Hey, RRJ or any other Engineer!!

Question on stopping a train--I know that when you put a train in
emergency application that the brakes are applied when bleeding from a
90lb trainline to a 40lb line and the diaphram kicks the stored air
behind the piston out to full application. 

Please enlighten me to story's I have heard about engineers "pissing
their air away and losing their brakes". Example --St. Albans, WV 302
moving east down Scary Hill rear ended a stopped coal drag with
fatalities. Cause according to rumors--the engineer had "pissed his
air away and even in a full emergency application, he had no air left
to stop the train"??

Damn!! Did I just give away that I was not in engine service??

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 13 April 2011

2010 FRA On Duty Fatalities - CSX Leads 753 Railroads

http://csx-corruption.com/2010-fra-on-duty-fatalities-csx-leads-753-railroads/

Thanks to this sites administrator for helping distribute this
information!

Name: Lloyd
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years
Posted: 13 April 2011

As much as I despise CSX for what it is, the crew on any train going 30
mph plus will not stop within 4 or 5 blocks because they think someone
still might sit there on the tracks.  I don't know about anyone else,
but 4 or 5 blocks sounds about 2,000 feet away and unless someone is
waving a crew down they are thinking the vehicle will get out of the
way before it gets plowed.  You can't come on here and blame Joe
Campbell for something he has hardly any control over.  Our job is to
blow the crossing and try to avoid accidents but it's not predicting
what anyone is going to do at crossings.  I'm sorry for your loss but
you really need to get a grip and stop putting the blame where it
doesn't belong. 

Oh by the way, how is everyone enjoying this new bid system?  I fkn
hate it and I'm so proud that our union forced something down our
throats and negotiated so hard for us.  Thanks for all you have done
for me lately UTU, you guys rock!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 13 April 2011

Robofuq

In both case it's wise to dump it. Just make sure you've got the
train bunched or streached tight. The train is the most important thing
to prevent a derailment the impact is going to happen any way. Just put
it in emergency before impact. It's all about a slick attorney getting
the download showing what action was taken. There's no operating rules
governing grade crossing accidents other than you can't make a
statement to anyone without railroad officers authority & presence.
Railroad property falls under federal jurisdiction not
state/county/city. I've never had to go to court to testify in either
situation hitting a vehicle or a suicide. Those cameras on board
locomotives the original intent was for this purpose CSX took it a step
further now using them against the train crews. Like the woman who
posted stated she viewed the video of her father-in-laws action or in
this case inaction still she questions it then wants to blame the train
crew. That's just part of denial.

Name: Robofuq
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 13 April 2011

To dump it or not? Thankfully I haven't had to make that decision, YET.
 A car at a crossing? I'm thinking yes.  At some point you will be in a
courtroom and asked "did you do everything possible to prevent this?" 
A suicide? Do I want to risk a derailment/hazmat situation that will
endanger the public for some poor soul who will die regardless?  Hope I
never find out.....

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 12 April 2011

J.V. MILLER  IS A LOSER RETARD.  A TRAINEE KNOCKED HIM OUT A COUPLE
MONTHS AGO.  THIS GUY IS A PIECE OF S#*& IM SURE NOBODY DISAGREES.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 11 April 2011

********** DATELINE----APRIL 11th 2011**********


********* NEW SCIENTIFIC DISCOVERY FINDS THAT THE LAWS OF GRAVITY DO
NOT APPLY ON CSX TRANSPORTATION PROPERTY...... THE PLACE JUST
SUCKS......


THAT IS ALL*******************************************

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 11 April 2011

NOMO,
It might not be you, However your last post was a Poser Post.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 11 April 2011

Oh give me a Break,
The air goes to E only when there is an obvious obstruction. Blow the
whistle and hope they move, if they are human E, if they are less than
human, just keep on blowing. It has nothing to do with School Buses or
Gas trucks, they are all treated the same.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 10 April 2011

Hey Kyle:

I don't remember seeing anything about a car...he was either passed
out or just wanted to die.

Hey Con < 1:

The only time any member of the crew would dump it is if there ia a
School, Church or Daycare bus or small child on the tracks. They stop
only after a vehicle or person is hit. If you don't have nerves of
steel and a cast iron gut, you better stay in yard service or suit up
with Depends, because you'll shit in your pants!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 10 April 2011

Hey Newbie, Learn before you write something idiotic. Tell all about it
after the first car you hit. Then educate us on how to stop a train on
a split second decision when the crew had no way of knowing this person
was just going to sit on the tracks. "The CSX bosses will fire me if I
stop" that's showing your ignorance. CSX would of been happy if they
could of prevented this accident or any accident. Have you ever thought
of another line of work? If you have this type of attitude already it's
time to quit. What a moron!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 10 April 2011

They would have stopped,  but the way this company is they would be
worried about getting fired.  The bosses at CSX have mentallity issues.
 They get their thrills on correcting someone or firing someone.  It is
kind of like they were the kids that got picked on, and now they want
revenge.  The bosses get treated bad by their superiors, so they pass
it on to the employees.  They are also non-union rats.

Name: KYLE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 10 April 2011

I do remorse for this woman who husband was hit by the train,But facts
are facts and the laws of physics applie, as when they seen her husband
on the tracks from 4 blocks away that is when they dumped the air, A
tonnage train going even at 30 mph will take almost a mile to come to a
stop, Her husband most likely wanted to save the car and he payed the
price for doing that as all he had to do was get out of the car and let
the train hit it and then let the insurance company do the rest, cars
can be replaced lifes can,t, i have over 20yrs on the rr and never did
a see a crew who wanted to hit anything as just dumping the air can
cause a major de-railment.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 10 April 2011

Sabrina

Sorry for your loss. What was he doing on the tracks? If the train was
heading towards him why didn't he get out of the way? If his vehicle
was stuck on the tracks he should of got out an off the tracks a
vehicle can be replaced. How fast was the train moving? 3-4 blocks is
quite a distance. Every engineer would of done the same thinking this
person is going to move. If the engineer was blaring the horn ringing
the bell headlights on bright ditch lights flashing giving warning then
they did the right thing. Now the engineer and conductor have to live
with a grave mistake made by your father. It's something they'll
never forget. Think about them it's not just your families tragidy
anymore.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 09 April 2011

Article Below: UP pays employee fired for reporting Injury, $200000

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 09 April 2011

http://www.omaha.com/article/20110409/MONEY/704099899

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 April 2011

Hey Sabrina:

I'm sorry for your loss, but the question should be why didn't your
Father-in-law move? He had 3 or 4 blocks to get out of the way...if he
wanted to.

If trains stopped for every car or pedestrian in the tracks, they
wouldn't go anywhere. 99.9% do and the ones that don't are either
severely impaired or just doesn't want to!

Name: Sabrina
E-mail: Jeffers
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 April 2011

My Father-n-law was killed by a csx train in nov. 2007. I would love to
know how many people have to die by getting hit by a csx train? be for
something is done to these engineers that seem 2 have no regard for
life. I personaly viewed the tape at csx of that accident an it was
more then obviuse that they could have stoped that train!!! they saw
him more then 3 blocks b 4 they hit him. an after hiting an killing him
it only took them 1 block 2 stop. so u do the math!!! within that year
alone there were 5 people hit n the same area. I spoke with (joseph
Cambell) the engineer that hit my father n law. an he said " i really
thought he would have moved" so that alone tells me that he knows what
he did an what will he tell god when his day comes? the bible does say u
shouldnt take the life of another. even thow csx seems 2 think they can
get by with anything, one day these "killers" will have to pay for
what they have done from being careless an heartless. do u think if
that was josephs father or grandfather he would have done things
differntly??? my moneys on yes he would of had a heart if it would have
affected his family like it has mine!!!

Name: kyle
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 09 April 2011

To rrj yea heard all about that RAYGUN wanted dismantle the rr
retierment system and put us into the ssi thing, not only that he had
many of the rr retierment field offices closed, ya know were you could
go to 1 in your local distric to sign up for unemployment payments, he
had most of those closed, and then he put a tax on rr workers who were
getting sick benefit & unemployment checks, ya he put a tax on that
stuff, the f--k prick, that is how the republican mind works, always go
after the lil peeps and still some rr workers voted for him and they cut
their own veins by doing that,My god how can some peeps be this dam
stupid, guess if you wrap yourself up in a american flag and say its a
good thing then you get the dumb asses to vote for you and it works
that is the sad part, I did ask a co-worker a few yrs ago when clinton
was running for potus, he said i am voting republican cuz no one is
goona take away my gun, thats how much easy these peeps can be
brainwashed into voting for the wrong person, and now we have even
worse peeps in polotical office, the nut bag teabaggers who are aginst
everything us common workers fought for for the past 50 yrs, they are
now calling union workers commies and some even say FDR was COMMIE and
that the new deal he put in effect was communist, Well i know 1 thing,
been to a lot of union meetings, ie UTU and i never heard that word
mentioned at a union meeting or from any other peep on the rr, they do
this just to get the public aginst the unions& they got thier bs corked
in wisonsin and they are going to pay the piper for that, so f you
teabaggers who ever you are, you had your 15 mins of hall & fame and
you all are going back under your rocks were you came from.

Name: DAVID
E-mail: sutherland155@aol.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 April 2011

GGOD SITE I'M LOOKING FOR GOOD TECH.INFORMATION,ON THE CSX ROUTES
NORTH-SOUTH RUNNING THROUGH CHATHAM COUNTY GA.(SAVANNAH).SIGNAL LINE
WIRE OR POLE LINE WIRE,OLD ABANDED TELEGRATH WIRE THAT RAN ON RIGHT OF
WAYS TO THESE TRACTS.

I DO KNOW THAT IN THE 1970s THIS TYPE OPPERATION WAS ALL BUT ABANDED BY
THE RAIL ROAD,THE FRA GIVES GRANTS TO R-Rs TO INPROVE SAFTY,MY INQUIRY
IS TO CSX R-R ONLY.

AND AS I READ SOME POSTINGS A LOT OF SIGNAL EMPOYEES READ THIS SITE.

WOULD ANY CSX EMPLOYEES THAT ARE EMPLOYED OR RETIRED,THAT READ OR MAKE
POSTINGS BE ABLE TO PROVID ME WITH GOOD HONIST TECK.INFORMATION ON THE
REAL TRAIN SIGNAL OPERATION IN THE GA ROUTES.

THIS IS A REQUIST FOR HELP,FROM YOU GUYS,I DO UNDERSTAND THAT OTHER
PEOPLE READ THESE IN MANAGEMENT READ THESE POSTING JUST FOR NOW I
WON'T ASK FOR ANY DIRECT DETAILS.

WITH RESPECT TO ALL,     DAVID

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 1-10 years
Posted: 08 April 2011

red burton is an ass

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 08 April 2011

That's right Kyle. With none other then right wing conservative based
Fox News at the helm of an attack on Railroad Retirement. I just read
it on the UTU website. It's not the first attack Ronald Raygun in the
'80s after changes to Federal Employees retirement system tried to go
after Railroad Retirement. Raygun robbed from Social Seurity (I mean
borrowed even though it was never paid back) to support his escalating
cost of a nuclear build up to break the USSR.

These railroaders and other union members that vote Republican/Tea Bag
parties are just destroying themselves under an illusion of the retoric
of taking away your guns, that their anti-abortion, pro-God, pro-moral
values ect....bullschidt. If it meant that much to repubs they had
between 1994-2006 when they controlled congress to make change. It's
nothing more than election propoganda to scare the sheeple. Guess what
it's working.

When Ronald Raygun changed the Federal Employees retirement system it
only affected those still to young to consider retirement. There was a
cut-off point. Does anyone want to take that chance with railroad
retirement?

Name: KYLE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 08 April 2011

You rr workers better wise up and fast cuz i have seen that some of
those nutty teabaggers who got elected to congress now are making
proposals to get rid of rr retirement and put us into ssi thus doing
away with tier 2, and still some of you voted for these moron right
wing fanatics just like many of you did in wisconsin when you voted for
that rat union buster scot walker and the other no good s-o-b kacich in
ohio, Now we have to fight them tooth & nail just to keep our pensions
money we pay not the goverment as they say, I will put it plaine and
simple, No republican is for the working man, they never were and never
will be for us but they sure say that when they are running for office
and when they get in, its F those low life labor peeps, but if abortin
& guns are all you are worried about, then vote for them and lets see
if that puts food on your table and pays your bills, You can always do
what rush limpballs said, go dumpster picking for your food or ask your
church to pay all your bills,LOL on that one, Hate to say it but some of
you do believe all those lies that come out of the likes of fox, beck, r
limpballs cuz you can not think for yourselfs or your familys on what
will happen in the long run, and its not a long run as we all can see
what they are doing in only the 4 months they have been in office, they
went right after the working class & unions, now call me a lier on that
one,, Oh did read, Mc donalds is going to hire 50 thousand peeps, you
just got the jobs john boner said he would make, hope to see all
flipping those burgers or ya can always get a 50cents a hr job in china
and thank the lord you have a job, WISE UP ALREADY, bros & sisters and
start voting for people who are for your best intrests.....

Name: terry
E-mail: terrycarter5@yahoo.com
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 07 April 2011

thanks for all the advice,, i have talked to someone ,,and i think we
are going to move forward...and to prove i'm not joking C.S.X if your
reading this , check my id h9367,,, now lets play

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 06 April 2011

Sounds like all you guys hate your job.If I was as unhappy as you are,I
would just quite and find another job.
CSX pays us good money for what little we do.
Good luck finding a job.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 06 April 2011

engine repair

The rail unions aren't taking kick backs they have just been chicken
schidts since 1987 after Raygun fired the Air Traffic Controllers. I
waited almost 24 years to see them get back to where they once were a
strong union. It never happened. Even when Clinton was president for 8
years we should of regained what we lost it never happened the union
heads became complacent. The nation & international HQ's are not under
CSX but are voted on by every railroad in this country. The only vote
you have is for the local and possibly the general committees. Some
unions the GC is only voted on by the LC's that needs to change. The
GC's are spread out so wide one local/division has just a partial
vote. I've seen my fair share of corruption only in the sense that a
general committee would favor one area over another. Example we had a
GC that came off the L&N treated them fairly the C&O side was just red
headed step children. Getting involved by going to union meeting is the
answer keeps one up to date.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Engine repair, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 05 April 2011

These unions can do something but they dont,  The problem is, that they
are probably recieving kickbacks from corporate.  And I guarantee you
there is a paper trail.  If this was invesigated by other parties you
would find this too be true.   I am tired of hearing  "THEY CAN DO
THAT"  Does this phrase sound familiar.  If anybody has ever tried too
rock the boat I guarantee you have heard those 4 words.  Like I said
before this place is very corrupt.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 05 April 2011

Binheer. RRJ

200 miles sunday and riding. I am reading every post. Just have nothing
to say. I am just keeping the young retired, and want to be retired
HONEST.

GOOBER

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 05 April 2011

engine repair

You're absolutely right. Why would someone want to work for CSX? I
hope you take your own advice. It's a small percentage that are
dissatified most take it for what it is a job. What are the unions
suppose to do? They can't strike under the Railway Labor Act. Forming
a new union wouldn't change a thing. There's a lot of BS before
striking becomes an option. With the implementation of these
on-property Single System Agreements the only avenue for grievences are
resolution/dispute committees. These committees have become a nuisence
with side letters that change the context of the agreements and the
employee is clueless. Learned that one after the 2007 BLE/CSX SSA. Then
in 2010 BLE members voted for the SSA extension so they must not be to
unhappy. I left out the "T" in BLET because the trainmen still fall
under UTU contracts & agreements.

Name: Start a Strike
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 04 April 2011

You guys really need to start a strike. Refuse to move those trains
carrying UPS traffic or those coal trains that serve energy plants.
This will really get the company's attention. And stay on strike until
every safety issue is resolved and management no longer treats you like
slaves. Those guys in management who work in sunny Jacksonville,
Florida and in nice air conditioned offices with the coffee maker
conviently near by, while the real workers work in shitty weather,
(especially on the northern part.) Time to put CSX in their place.
Mabye if UPS is forced to move all that money making traffic to Norfolk
Southern will CSX finally make some changes for the better. Go on
Strike!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Engine repair, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 04 April 2011

why would anyone want to work at this sorry outfit, all of these stories
are true on here, and I know they are.  You people are being treated
like slaves, anyone with any kind of trade or other skills, can make
more money and be treated better.  Everyone should write letters to
your congress and let them know how crooked these so-called unions are.
  This is the most corrupt bunch of shit that I have ever seen.  With a
lot of people writing these letters, we can unite and stick together,
you can basically bypass your crooked union and unite and conquer these
crooks.  And that my friends is forming a real UNION.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 04 April 2011

NoMo

The UTU/CSX SSA hasn't really sunk in yet. Most places are just
getting under way for job bid systems. Most haven't a clue what they
sold out on work agreements to get this on-property contract. They
should of learned from the BLET. I remember when the LC's were passing
out the new claim codes in 2007 under the BLET/SSA 70% fell under a code
97 which was an automatic turn down. Those with dual seniority that are
engineer certified but cut back have to make sure bids are in place for
both crafts. This problem arose when about 6 people cut back didn't
fill out engineer bid screens when it came into effect. They got forced
to a terminal 310 miles away. It was at their own expense for lodging
because it was yard job reverse lodging wasn't available. At least
years ago if I was forced outside the 30 mile radious on a yard job C&O
paid the lodging. Consolidated rosters can help or hurt depends on which
way a person looks at it.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 03 April 2011

Hey Kone:

It's not just CSX...Its all companies, public and private.

They all enjoy the ignorance emanating from our Public Schools,
Primary, Secondary and Post Secondary. Look at the market, you have 
90% of the people applying for jobs over 50 years old and well educated
(hey chumps...bitching about the unions, you 40 years olds are next),
but that's another story altogether. These 20 and 30 somethings have
never had their nuts squeezed...it's coming, and you won't be yelling
ooh.

I live in Alabama, a "right-to-work State". Wages were low before
the recession...the same jobs are now paying $1.50/hour less.

You morons agreed to, or allowed your GC to agree to the CSX/UTU SSA.
I hope KY makes a Jelly for the butt fuckin' your about to get...I
can't help think about the movie "Deliverance". You'll be squealing
like pigs...we...we...we, all the way home!

Name: kone
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 03 April 2011

These new hires can be trained the way CSX wants them. It's a pitty the
new hires never worked for a good railroad

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 02 April 2011

binheer2long

I've went out to Arizona a few times this winter visiting friends.
Seeing if I want to become a snow bird. Virginia winters aren't bad so
Arizona is a nice place to visit but no thank's. Fly out of
Raleigh/Durham round trip it's only $280 to Phoenix on Southwest. I
got out of there at the right time spring training for a lot of the
major league baseball clubs jumps the prices sky high. Went to a few
ball games, grand canyon, Sedona ect...problem is there's no green the
desert isn't for me. lol

Name: JimmyinMD
E-mail: jcsoulsby62@aol.com
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for N/A
Posted: 01 April 2011

Saw an interesting sight last night.  It was just before 1:30AM on the
former Pittsburgh division.  I was checking the doors at a car lot on
RT 36 and the main line runs right behind the buildings.  I noticed a
coal train stopped and the compressors on the units seemed to be
popping more than usual.  After pulling out and running towards
Cumberland, it seemed that the brakes were engaged on the cars.  I
recall seeing something years ago about being allowed to pull against
the brakes for a limited number of miles.  If an air hose had popped,
would that have caused this?  The cars towards the rear seemed to be
squealing more than the ones closer to the front.

Name: Binheer2long
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 01 April 2011

Hey, RRJ

I gotta give it to you again, you sure did your homework on that one.
One is operative and the other speculative, and no, I have not seen
Goober for some time. I have been in Florida most of the winter
visiting family, but after yesterdays weather I am about to head back
to the old country.

Ain't retirement great!! My health is wonderful and so is life--take
care.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 01 April 2011

Hey Suzannah:

It's hard to document violations without pictures...there is a method
to CSX's madness. Their word against your word and if the FRA should
show up asking questions, CSX has time to make repairs why they
investigate the alleged violation!

Name: Suzannah
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 01 April 2011

Joke,

I love csx's latest policy in their system bulletins about not being
able to use your personal camera on duty. The UP not only allows it but
encourages that you use one to document safety hazards or a violations
of a rail safety law, regulation,or order. The only requirement they
have is to immediately turn it off after the photograph has been made.
You can find the info in their system general order #13 under
electronic devices!  Obviously the FRA doesnt have a problem with our
documentation of safety issues!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 01 April 2011

binheer2long

It's been a long time. I hope you're doing well. The oldest union in
N.America according to the BLET & even Wilkepedia was chartered in 1863
I do believe it was called the Brotherhood of the Footboard it was later
to become the BLE. Stone cutters wouldn't that fall under the Masons
and the Masonic Lodge? Glad you're enjoying retirement. You seen
Goober? Apparently he's been doing a lot of riding on his BMW.

Name: Binheer2long
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 01 April 2011

Hey, RRJ

How's about the Journeyman Stone Cutters Associations of North
America??

Perhaps the oldest active Union in North America. They were founded in
1853, but their individual locals were founded in the 1820's and the
Washington Stone Cutters were reported to have been a factor in laying
the Cornerstone of the US Capitol in 1792. They are now a part of the
LIUNA.

And I just spent part of my retirement (yes, dammit, no wonder I rarely
visit this site) cheque at the twice the price gas pump as it was two
years ago. Do not drill, mother, do not drill!!!

But what the hell does this have to do with an unintelligent
discussion--

Still your friend and yes, I did work on the CSX as a Union employee
for some 38+, but I am far too busy to-----

When were the RR unions formed??

Name: KYLE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 31 March 2011

rrj you said it right, let all these newbess go and work for a shortline
non-union rr and you will see how fast they come running back to a class
1 rr with a union as there is NO comparision.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 31 March 2011

Great posts. Our rail unions aren't the best but I'd take a bad union
over no union any day. We've always had pressure an obsticles one
being the RLA not having the right to strike without jumping over a lot
of hurdles. Still we have survived. Rail unions are the oldest in North
America. Rail unions gave workers their perks starting with healthcare
and a decent wage. Times have changed so has the worker. I don't agree
with these yearly productivity bonuses there taxed higher at around 35%
because there not considered earned wages. I'm retired so it doesn't
affect me anymore. I see to many new hires that hate the unions
complaining about paying dues ect...but everything they have the unions
fought for that can never be forgotten. Go work for a non-union
shortline see what you'll get paid an hourly wage. No more getting on
a train run 4 hours for milage forget about a RRB pension healthcare
ect....I think people need to starve a little to appreciate what they
have. That's what furloughs meant for me back in the '70s an
appreciation of earning a decent living.

Name: MadMan
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 20-30 years
Posted: 30 March 2011

Haha, so true!. In the recent months we have seen the Gophers and
Teabaggers attack Collective Bargaing by State Governors, The US Senate
and Congress attack the Federal Budgets that will only affect the poor
and middle class Americans, while giving Tax Breaks to Corporations who
didn't even pay Federal Taxes.

These clowns are out to eliminate all the rights that the poor and
middle class have left, this is a form of Political Genocide. The
platform that those idiots ran on were for job creations and hid their
main objectives but like suckers the fools were hooked once they took
the bait. There agenda has nothing to do with job creations but the
opposite in creating more Unemployment, how can any normal common sense
individual given a surplus of state money and destroy in a matter of 1
month by giving the Corporations Tax Breaks then run and screaming that
there's a State deficit and demand that the Public Unions give up their
Collective Bargaining to cover it. Collective Bargaining has nothing to
do with any State or Federal Budgets.

I hope now the people who voted these idiots in realize that they slit
their own throats too and will realize that everything that they're
brainwashed with about the Public Unions will affect them in the long
run, afterall it was the Unions who fought for working conditions,
standard work weeks, decent pay, medical, etc. that they receive and
enjoy today that cost numerous lives, blood, sweat and tears. I see the
plan of these Parties eventually trying to eliminate all work rules, 1
set low salary, enormous co-pays in medical, no sick or vacation time,
long hours with no days off for rest. 
They want to reverse the course of history and we'll be nothing but
slaves.

I'm a BMWE member and I'm glad that it's standing up against what
these Gophers and Teabaggers are trying to do because if everybody sits
by and dosen't get involved is like putting a nail in your own coffin.
This is nothing short of a " Class War" that they started and we must
fight them back and not give in. The current Recall petitions have been
signed in Wisconscin and it was well over the majority of signatures
needed but I believe Walker will be impeached along with his 8 GOP
state senators for violating the judge's order.

I know alot of us don't like how some of us are represented by the
Reps. we have in our Unions but who voted them in or how many people
actually voted at all. In my years on the R.R. I've came across my
share of nitwits who wouldn't get involved or constantly pushing the
signing of waivers and getting time off. But if I wasn't satisfied I
would just go up the ladder and make alot of noise to get the full
attention of my Rep.
but that's besides the point as we have to fight the issue at hand
with these Gophers and Teabaggers before we can concentrate on fighting
the company. We need Elected people who will fight and stand by our
sides to get the justice that we are looking for!. We can't afford to
do anything stupid now with these Republitards in office or we'll be
only killing ourselves, we have to be patient and tough it out against
all the BS they throw our way. It always sunny days after the storms
have passed!.

Name: to rrj
E-mail: 
Employed as: Car repair, for 10-20 years
Posted: 30 March 2011

Yes rrj you said it correct and yes its so strange that some of our
union members voted for these nazi neo-cons and we all know what they
are now doing and they have been in office only 3 months!!!  

If al of us re-call in 2010 all of those neo-cons said its all about
jobs,LMFAO, ha ha they used that as a smoke screen to get elected and
what jobs program have they even talked about,IE none, All i hear is
things like guns,abortion, gays, mexicans and tax breaks for the rich,
and now fox news is backing them saying lies that union workers are all
lazy and make to much money and want everthing for a free ride, none of
that bs is going to make new jobs except in china.tiawan and other
countrys as they love that cheap child labor overseas, want a new good
job move to china and you and your kids can all work for 50 cents a hr
cuz that is what you dummys voted for by letting these neo-cons
brainwash you with the likes of fox,beck & rush limpballs, Why you
would vote for them is beyound my mind as a normal person would not cut
his own wrist, but you working people did just that and its now showing
is states like wisconsin & ohio with the nazie dictators you elected
and they all think they are also above all usa laws too, Man it must
fell real good to be a dictator.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 29 March 2011

The U.S. House of Representatives has a proposed bill to make it harder
for non-union shortline railroads & non-union airlines to form unions.
It's on the BLET website.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 29 March 2011

No state or govenor has the right to go after railroad unions much less
airlines. We fall under the federal goverment with the Railway Labor
Act. Railroads are private sector not public like teachers, firemen,
police officers ect...Do I think the shenanagins these repo fools are
inacting will try and filter down to the private sector? Certianly,
next it'll most likely hit federal goverment workers beyond just a
wage and hiring freeze. Then what's to stop the private sector from
doing anything they want. A lot a railroaders are voting republican
over bullschidt like gun rights, immigration, abortion ect...not
realising their slitting their own throats. The republicans don't give
a damn they slave to the corporate master under the guise of capitalism.
Instead their true course is the New World Order. A division in the
classes so wide the middle class will be lost. It's happening all
around us. One would have to be blind not to see it.

Name: cater
E-mail: terrycarter5@yahoo.com
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 29 March 2011

i'am lookin for a good Discrimination lawyer please e-mail me at
terrycarter5@yahoo.com

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 29 March 2011

Doug, would you post a link?  I've searched everywhere and I can't
find anyone looking to bust our contract.  CSX would if they needed to
but all they do is ignore it and there is no one to stop them.  What
business is it of a state gov't anyway?

Name: DOUG
E-mail: 
Employed as: Car repair, for 10-20 years
Posted: 29 March 2011

Beware union bros&sisters they are comming after us now, Yes it was on
the news--The republican state govs now are comming after air line and
rr unions and i knew it would happen with what scot walker in wisconsin
did and now they have all jumped on the union busting band wagon as they
are now saying its the fault of greedy lazy union people who made this
big budget crisis in the usa, Think its time for a national strike to
put these nazies back under the rocks were they came from,The sad part
is many of you voted for these lil napolen wanna bee,s, Give a tyrant a
inch and he will take 100 yards and they are doing just that.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 27 March 2011

fonzie

First off no need posting on every thread. Secondly you're screwed
maybe a shortline will hire you. I doubt any class 1 would give you
another chance. Being furloughed is at times a way of life on the
railroads.

Name: fonzie
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 27 March 2011

I worked for csx 2 years ago due to being layed off every other week i
decided not to go back after i begged a diffrent company to hire me
back for the secomd time due to the railroad layin me off To make a
long story short i was sent a letter of termination in the mail sayin i
didnt mark back up in the required time My craft was trains and engines
I was thinking and wanting to get in a track gang would csx consider
hiring me back? And would any other railroad hire me Or am i basically
screwed for being terminated from csx With other railroad outfits? Any
insite on this topic id greatly appricate it thanks ;]

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 27 March 2011

You're wrong there sonny. I'm retired enjoying my pension. That cushy
goverment job supposedly you have might be in trouble once they get
thru with the state jobs. I do know the feds have a hiring and wage
freeze in effect. Good for you on leaving CSX I'm sincere on that
statement. Some people aren't cut out for railroad life apparently you
were in that catagory. Real men don't brag about what they earn. That
makes your post questionable on two subjects your earnings and if
you're a real man. Whose the fool now?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 26 March 2011

That's funny RRJ about how you said "What are you going to do??? 
Leave the railroad??  Where else are you going to see pay checks like
this??  (or whatever a typical old fag/railroader like your self would
say).  I actually left after 5 years with this crap hole (aka CSX) and
now work for the gov't seeing A LOT MORE MONEY and seeing my family
more.  You know what??  More than anything, I feel sorry for you!!!!! 
I really do!!!!  You had no other skills in your life that you could
utilize to better yourself besides railroading!!  I really do feel
SOOOOOOOOOO sorry for you!!  So now you have become a spokesperson for
"HITLER'S" regime!!  Damn man, Good luck to you!!!LLLLLLMMMMAAAAOOOO

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 26 March 2011

What do you mean they locked you into a 5 year contract? It was voted on
by the membership. A pathetic 48% didn't bother to take 5 minutes out
of their life to put a X mark on a piece of paper and mail it in a
prepaid envelope. It was voted in by a majority. Claims have always
been a game sometime they pay it sometimes they don't if it's a good
one eventually it'll get paid. You call it stealing. The only thing
you should look for in the paycheck is actual earnings if a claim is
paid it's a bonus. It's been going on way before you hired out. Good
luck on leaving the railroad I'm sure that's not going to happen. You
make good money there's benefits for your family and best of all a
decent pension when you retire. I don't know what the unions are doing
they cried when the republicans were in the WH and controlled congress
now since 2006 the democrats are the majority by a slim margin and they
haven't done anything. Nothing changed when Bill Clinton was president
for 8 years after 12 years of Raygunomics that hurt the unions. Now the
BLET rag I recieved yesterday the union is crying again about a threat
of republicans taking back control in 2012. I'm retired but still
care. I was hoping Dennis Pierce would do something as president of the
BLET. It's still early in his term hopefully he'll keep his promise of
change.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 25 March 2011

I'm saying nothing that hasn't been said many times already. Denied
claims is plain theft. We all deal with it and our unions do nothing. I
submit one or two valid claims per week. I always make sure to be very
detailed in describing what happened and why I'm due. Every week its
denied. So I turn it in to the l.c. and that's the end of that.in.
2010 I had two or three thousand in claims,  this year its already much
more.our union officials are no better than the company. I might as well
go in the yard and work. Its less money but hardly no claims for Csx to
deny.I'm ready to get out of the railroad or change crafts.this place
had changed. When jobs become more available people will leave this
sorry way of life. Its not worth it anymore.Csx pockets are bulging
while they sit around and laugh about locking us into a five year
contract. We will never make what the CN makes. Never.

Name: Zonk
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 25 March 2011

My brother and sisters, the railroad paid my house, paid my car, and
ruined my health.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 25 March 2011

Darn Good I've been wondering where your cantankerous arse has been. I
see you still want to stir the schidt pot. lol

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 24 March 2011

Everybody better be asking questions!

    http://www.utu.org/worksite/detail_news.cfm?ArticleID=53965

This was a crew van...how could this happen?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 24 March 2011

RRJ,
Kinda looks like ya got the hammer dropped on ya.
Oh well right is right.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 24 March 2011

FEEZ,
well welcome to the real world, sorry it took so long for you to see
the trees. Looks like it is time to get to work or Starve.

Your Choice

Name: FEZZ
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 24 March 2011

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 24 March 2011

366 days,8 days a week,25 hours a day...This is what is expected of a
CSXT employee...We know it's impossible,but if there was a way to get
around it and put an extra dime into Burrus' bonus fund,they'd damn
sure find a way to incorporate it.God forbid a man/woman to want to
spend time with his/her family or have a medical condition that needs
attention or possible surgery.P.T. Burrus doesn't care about an
employee,nor the welfare of that individual's family.So long as Burrus
looks good for those above him,and puts a big fat check in the bank at
the end of the year,he could care less if you and your family are
starving and no longer have medical coverage.CSX claims to be about the
safety of an employee,but you can do everything right in accordance with
the rules for your entire time of employment and never miss a day,never
"sharp shooting", and never get so much as a fkn cookie.Take one step
backwards into a spot you were just in,you will get fired.Take one day
off to be with your family,you will be fired.Take a day off to go in
for a surgery,you will be fired.Leave a piece of paper that has nothing
to do with your division out of your mountain of papers to carry,you
will be fired.Miss a day of work because you were told the company will
be shut down due to holiday and they call you in anyways,and you miss
the call,you will be fired. So while you're sitting in your cold
dwelling,never smiling,never a kind word spoken between you and your
spouse,wondering where your next meal will come from,and fifiguring
where to cook it if you had one,people despising you and thinking
you're a loser for not being employed,wondering how you're bills are
going to be paid,hoping like hell that you or a family member doesn't
become sick or injured because of no medical coverage,and you just wish
life would end, STOP and think about your "so-called" managers and
bosses sitting in the warmth of their own homes,eating steak and
"high-fiving" each other,smiling at their wives and enjoying their
children,and laughing at you because they fired you for a reason that
was immoral and injust,not only in moral man's eyes,but in those of
God himself."Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" does
not apply in CSXT. This company is not for the welfare and safety of an
employee. It's about who can fire the most employees and who can make
their wallet the fattest amongst it's managers. Diversified and ethnic
my ass. I've spoke my piece and these aren't opinions. They are facts
based on my knowledge and experience in the 6 years I've been with
CSX. Peace be with all my fellow employees and their
families...Management can kiss it and find their own way in
life......Thank you.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 24 March 2011

366 days,8 days a week,25 hours a day...This is what is expected of a
CSXT employee...We know it's impossible,but if there was a way to get
around it and put an extra dime into Burrus' bonus fund,they'd damn
sure find a way to incorporate it.God forbid a man/woman to want to
spend time with his/her family or have a medical condition that needs
attention or possible surgery.P.T. Burrus doesn't care about an
employee,nor the welfare of that individual's family.So long as Burrus
looks good for those above him,and puts a big fat check in the bank at
the end of the year,he could care less if you and your family are
starving and no longer have medical coverage.CSX claims to be about the
safety of an employee,but you can do everything right in accordance with
the rules for your entire time of employment and never miss a day,never
"sharp shooting", and never get so much as a fkn cookie.Take one step
backwards into a spot you were just in,you will get fired.Take one day
off to be with your family,you will be fired.Take a day off to go in
for a surgery,you will be fired.Leave a piece of paper that has nothing
to do with your division out of your mountain of papers to carry,you
will be fired.Miss a day of work because you were told the company will
be shut down due to holiday and they call you in anyways,and you miss
the call,you will be fired. So while you're sitting in your cold
dwelling,never smiling,never a kind word spoken between you and your
spouse,wondering where your next meal will come from,and fifiguring
where to cook it if you had one,people despising you and thinking
you're a loser for not being employed,wondering how you're bills are
going to be paid,hoping like hell that you or a family member doesn't
become sick or injured because of no medical coverage,and you just wish
life would end, STOP and think about your "so-called" managers and
bosses sitting in the warmth of their own homes,eating steak and
"high-fiving" each other,smiling at their wives and enjoying their
children,and laughing at you because they fired you for a reason that
was immoral and injust,not only in moral man's eyes,but in those of
God himself."Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" does
not apply in CSXT. This company is not for the welfare and safety of an
employee. It's about who can fire the most employees and who can make
their wallet the fattest amongst it's managers. Diversified and ethnic
my ass. I've spoke my piece and these aren't opinions. They are facts
based on my knowledge and experience in the 6 years I've been with
CSX. Peace be with all my fellow employees and their families.
Management can kiss it and find their own way in life......Thank you.

Name: KYLE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 23 March 2011

Amazing we have rr workers this site that don,t know that unions are all
about collective bargin, Hey dummys that is how they get a contract,
without that any company can say its our deal buddy, yer working for 3
bucks a hr and if you don,t like it hit the bricks,Think this anti
union peep is nothing but a phony rail fan foamer as if he did work for
a class 1 rr he would have known that, and who ever you are, go and kiss
scot walkers ass and the koch bros too.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 22 March 2011

Quit using a fake job description.

Name: Cond
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 22 March 2011

'it's most likely your future carreer. lol"
Career is spelled this way.

I know CSX is a private sector. And I do know that the salaries have
gotten better for officers (non-contract) more than conract employees.
CSX non-contract employees do not have collective bargaining. Maybe
that is why their pay has increased. Please keep on writing stuff that
is crazy talk.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 22 March 2011

You're as dumb as a box of rocks. What do think the railroad is? It's
the private sector. Same goes for GM, Chrysler, Ford with the UAW it's
the private sector. NFL players private sector their unionized because
of negotiations under collective bargaining there might not be a
season. The list goes on. Grow up learn some things stay in school can
you say "would you like to super size that?" it's most likely your
future carreer. lol

Name: Cond
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 22 March 2011

"This is a corporation wet dream. If goverment (federal,
state, county ect...) can recind binding contracts and abolish
collective bargaining then there is nothing to prevent the private
sector from eventually doing the same."

Once again let's revisit your quote. You are the one that said the
private sector can abolish collective bargaining. There is not
collective bargaining in the private sector. And I am so happy you
understand that the union has not done any good since WWII and Vietnam.
Keep paying those dues.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 22 March 2011

Cond (Which is questionable if you even work for the railroad with that
response) 

Huh? What do think contract negotiations are? It's collective
bargaining. It is exactly what the unions do. The only people that
don't have collective bargaining powers are non-union. That's why so
much hatred for the unions because they were to dumb to not get a union
job. Americans got fat & lazy to cushy thinking they didn't need unions
it's bit them in the arse the past couple of years. I'm glad I was
union. I'm sorry that the only generations to actually benefit from
unions were those from WWII thru Vietnam. Since the '80s it's been a
steady decline in this country. Good times are over. When jobs come
back they'll be schidty ones with low pay no benefits. This downturn
is making corporations realise they can do the same with less people.

Name: Cond
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 22 March 2011

"Nobody would waste off time making these pro CSX posts."

"waste off time"...I know what you mean, but I have never heard that
phrase.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 22 March 2011

By looking at the posts from the Cond. and YDM and the time they were
made...they're either on the street or sitting behind a CSX computer
at work.

Nobody would waste off time making these pro CSX posts. They must be at
work doing what they are told or perhaps making a few extra brownie
points between trips to the knee hole!

Name: Cond
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 22 March 2011

RRJ
"If goverment (federal, state, county ect...) can recind binding
contracts and abolish collective bargaining then there is nothing to
prevent the private sector from eventually doing the same."

I assume you know that the private sector does not have collective
bargaining and it seems to work pretty good. You do not see the private
sector picketing and acting like fools. Winconsin's population elected
people that would change the insanity. If they have a problem with it,
then they should have voted.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 22 March 2011

Cond

If you don't think what is going on with public sector unions isn't
going to eventually filter down to the private sector you're wearing
blinders. This is a corporation wet dream. If goverment (federal,
state, county ect...) can recind binding contracts and abolish
collective bargaining then there is nothing to prevent the private
sector from eventually doing the same. All Kyle stated was it's better
to have a mediocre union then no union at all which definitely fits the
case for the BLET & UTU.

Name: Cond
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 21 March 2011

Kyle,
    Thank you for writing to hammer in the fact that the people on here
are uneducated and do not stay informed of what is really going on. You
are a prime example of people that just stick up for anything UNION and
not really looking at the facts. Wisconsin and Ohio are not trying to
get rid of unions. If you would actually read the facts and inform
youself, you would see just how stupid you sound. 
   And of the thousands of employees that work for CSX, only 5 or 6 of
you continue to write and whine like babies. Sounds like you are the
problems in the yards and line-of-road territories you work on.

Name: kyle
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 20 March 2011

I think its about time to quit our bitching about the utu& ble No one
likes to pay union dues or taxes for that fact, But just think what it
would be like with no union at all, Ie what is occuring right now in
the state of wisconsin and ohio, the right wingers whoi just got
elected are out to bust unions any whay they can,Legal or illegely, ya
all know the ole saying shit floats downhill,Don,t forget RONNIE RAYGUN
started all of this back in the 1980,s he even wanted to do away with
railroad retierment and now these teabagers got in office and want to
do the same thing raygun did, a lot of them even quote raygun as thier
hero, That should tell you something.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 19 March 2011

Chuck Baker will burn in Hell someday.  Wonder if he will still get joy
out of hearing himself talk and patting himself on the back.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 18 March 2011

Cond

The UTU locals/BLET divisions do not pay the LC anything unless it's
justified attending investigations ect.... If an LC marked off on a
weekend that's his business the members don't pay for it. xyz is
correct it's a perk of the job. You should try going to a union
meeting every expense claim by the LC is discussed and voted on by the
members. I know people with over 30 years that have only been to 2-3
meeting in all those years. Funny they cry the loudest of anyone if
they felt that got screwed.

Name: Cond
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 18 March 2011

xyz,
    You are right about the LC's marking off when they want to. The
amazing thing is our union dues pay them for their day off, along with
their cell phone bill, meals, mileage, ect. Well I can't say a 'day
off', because they are on union business. And we all know how hard
they are working on union business when they mark off all weekend.
     And in return we get LC's that are in bed with management, no
representation at an investigation, no help with payroll problems. In
fact our local Trainmasters help more than the LC's. 
    I am ashamed at times being a part of a union that bithes at a
company that pays us a good wage, but we say nothing to our union that
takes money from us and does not do anything for us. Yes, CSX has it's
problems, but they seem to be more fair than the UTU most of the times.

    I would love to quit CSX a times, but they have given me and my
family a good life. On the other hand I would love to quit the union
and put the money that I was paying for dues, to something more
constructive for my family. How can I do that?

Name: xyz
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 18 March 2011

LC's have a tendency to mark off when they don't have to. Perks of the
job.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 17 March 2011

slack action

CSX doesn't cooperate in investigations. The LC's are hitting brick
walls while trying to defend people. Recently CSX send out notices any
union officer has to give written notice to CMC to be able to mark off
for monthly meetings, to attend investigations ect...I'm not sure if
this is system wide or just on the Huntington Division. Apparently in a
BLET/CSX dispute/resolution committee meeting the GC's agreed to it in
a side letter. If a LC can't represent their members it makes one
wonder what's the sense in any of it. One major obsticle local rail
unions have always been under is not having a permanent LC. LC's have
to work like everyone else to support their families. General
committees are spread out to thin to be effective. One solution would
be to have a permanent LC in each seniority zone. On the consolidate
district I worked the job would cover 3 subdivisions (502 miles) a
shortline (196 miles not the shortlines employees but CSX crews running
over it) and 5 yards. Each location would then have vice LC's to take
up the slack. When I left 18 months ago the advice from the unions was
signing waivers instead of going to an investigation. I hear now CSX is
not excepting waivers then hampering LC's from calling witnesses
ect...in an investigation to defend their members. I don't know what
the union heads in Cleveland are thinking but it's time to get up off
of their brains and start doing their job.

Name: slack action
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 20-30 years
Posted: 15 March 2011

RRJ:

My applogies, I misread your post at first but reread and I now see
what you were talking about..  And you are right about the memory loss.
When people start getting in trouble people sart foretting real fast.
But if you talked to the dispr, it should be on tape for the FRA to
listen to.

I remember years ago they have put a dispr on a job they were not
qualified on and have the chief sit in them them... and the chief was
not qualified on the terrtory either, just familiar with it.  I know
they would not put out a 704 during this time.  I do not know if this
practice is still done or what would have happened to the dispr if
something went wrong.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 15 March 2011

As for running over unfamiliar territory. I did have a situation around
1998 where a YM, TM, TD, and Chief TD ordered me to go. I couldn't be
insubordinate so I went to the last signal I was qualified to then
stopped the train. After 45 minutes the TD came on the radio asked if I
was moving I informed him I've gone as far as I was qualified. With his
mic still on he said "F@#King schidt". Then dropped the signal and I
was lined up on track I was qualified. I knew they couldn't force me.
I know for a fact others are intimidated into doing it. Don't think it
can't happen.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 15 March 2011

Slack Action

I didn't say they weren't responsible. I said there would be a sudden
case of short term memory loss from a TM, YM, TD ect...that happens.
They don't want to be held responsible it's easy for them to deny
anything. Right before I left the railroad I spent 5 days in the street
for a YM's instructions. I doubled over on a yard job. We were going to
transfer cars to another yard but time was running out for me. A road
train had hogged at the east end of the yard. The YM instructed us to
get the road power back to the west end. The cars we were coupled to
were in the clear of a stub track but not one car length from the
clearance point. I notified the YM of this he told us don't worry
he'll get someone right on it the road power was more important. The
next day I came into work I was notified the FRA had been at the yard
that morning the cars we were suppose to transfer were still in the
same track. I was informed by a co-worker that the FRA questioned if it
was in the clear of the stub track. I went to the TM's office explained
what happened thinking it was the FRA who reported it. Also I had an
engineer trainee with me that shift I didn't want him to get in
trouble so I didn't mention it. I wrote a statement the YM when
questioned denied any conversation that he told us to leave it. It was
my fault for trusting anyone. Stupid me I should of realised if I had
to double over because the extra board had been exhausted there wasn't
anyone coming in for the other 4 hours. Never trust anyone. As it turned
out the FRA never reported it, it was my assinine dipschidt of a RFE
that filed the charges. I did my 5 days in the street came back worked
one more day then retired.

Name: slack action
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 14 March 2011

RE RRJ:

You stated that a yard master/train dispr could be held responsible if
an engr ran his/her train in terrtory where they were not qualified . 
I do not see where there would be any case where a YM/Dispr could be
charged for an engr running over territory they are not qualified on. 
If an engr notifies a YM/Disrp they are not qualified, it is up to the
engr not to pull the throttle.  A dispr just gives signals and would
never instruct a crew to run over unfamiliar territory without being
instructed by the div supt... and even then the engr would be in
violation of the a FRA mandate...

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 14 March 2011

tired of it

That article doesn't state that the working engineer can be used as a
pilot. It states only one pilot would be assigned to a train. I can
only see that happening using an engineer pilot over unfamiliar
territory with no work for short distances. We did that in Richmond
engineers piloting both members of a crew for a total of 7 miles of
mainline between Fulton an AACA. Under that article it would be an
engineer pilot if both members needed one. Seems the UTU gave up
another job.

Name: tired of it
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 14 March 2011

I finally found what I was referring to that the company is trying to
push now; it's under Article 33 Sect. 2 on page 85 of that wonderful
UTU Cons. Southern Agrmt.  It reads:

"A. When Trainmen are required to run over any portion of the road
with which they or any other member of the crew are unacquainted, a
pilot will be furnished or the Trainmen may be placed in Conductor
Qualifying Status.
B. Qualified employees from other crafts may also be used to pilot
trains.  In no case will more than one pilot from any craft be used to
pilot a train."

Obviously it's the bleak wording that has them thinking they can get
away with assigning conductor pilot duty to the engineer.  The notion
that one could safely perform co-mingled services like these
simultaneously is absurd.  In my case, the engineer I was working with
hadn't performed Conductor service in over a decade; definitely not
qualified to be a conductor pilot!  Fortunately he had enough sense to
say so.

Name: Zonk
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 13 March 2011

The LC in my area did advance to the point he can change your vacation.
That's a huge leap for him.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 11 March 2011

suzannah

SSA article 63 from your post only limits that a conductor can't pilot
an engineer. Which is understandably engineers are FRA certified. The
bad thing about this SSA is most people haven't a clue about side
letters attached after the ratification with these CSX/BLET
dispute/resolution committees. That was a major objection on my voting
against such a contract in 2007 because it is not cut in stone it can
always be modified without the members knowledge. Which seems to be the
case. People on here are tired of the LC's stating "They can do that"
it's out of the LC's hands when the GC's modify the agreements with
side letters. The BLET SSA is a case of the intention was most likely
right but the application sucked.

Name: slack action
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 09 March 2011

Re Angry Wife:  You can pull up CSX 8888 incident on the Internet.  It
will give you all of the facts that happened on that day.  You can then
compare them to the movie and draw your own conclusion...I can tell you
one thing about CSX and any other railroad company in the USA.. The way
the operate is not going to change... If your husband has a job in this
economy he is very, very lucky..There was a time on the railroad that
if you worked one day a month, that is what you got paid and layoffs
were just part of the job...If you can put up with the BS it will pay
off in the long run.  If you can't, I suggest for your husband to quit
while he is young... 

Good Luck

Name: suzannah
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 09 March 2011

Tired of it...

Article 63 of our SSA states very clearly only qualified fra certified
engineers whose names appear on an active roster will be used as pilots
for other engineers.  Paragraph D (note) a conductor or trainman cannot
be used as a substitute for qualified fra certified engineer. There is
a reason for this. The company loves to preach SAFETY..SAFETY... until
is starts hitting the bottom line. Again, you need to call the fra and
let them know what is going on. An engineer should not even agree to be
your pilot and if in his/her right mind wont! When I got hired 10 years
ago our training was pretty shabby, but now from what I have seen its
10 times worse. If you feel that you havent been given enough time on a
particular job to learn it thoroughly then you need to demand more time
on it. If they wont give you more training time then demand your right
to get a pilot the next time you are called for the job.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 09 March 2011

A person is only required to go as far as they are qualified. The
practice of trying to make the engineer a pilot for a conductor has
been going on for a long time. The problem began when people chose to
go with it then it became past practice. As for yarding trains a
conductor only has to go as far as they are qualified an engineer CAN
NOT guide you by radio. The yardmaster would have to provide a yard
crew as pilots. A trainmaster can not pilot if they try the first
person on the extra board is entitled to a 5 day claim. Anyone that
goes blindly into unfamiliar territory if something happened would be
held responsible. Everyone from trainmasters, yardmasters, train
dispatchers ect...would suddenly have amnesia about anything concerning
requesting a pilot. The word "Empowerment" is a nasty word that CSX
loves to say to train crews till someone tries to use it. There are
times empowerment does work this is one of them and CSX will back away
if someone doesn't flinch. Problem today there are a lot of people
flinching over the lack of knowledge of their rights.

Name: tired of it
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 09 March 2011

The way i'm seeing it, when it comes time to work from the bottom of
the train, such as in unusual circumstances when you have to back into
a siding or yard et al, that engineer obviously can't be there with
you, so now you're stuck trying to identify unfamilar switches,
signals, close clearances and whatever else with only your
"pilot"/engineer talking to you on the radio and not actually knowing
what you're looking at.  This is what the company is conveniently
overlooking.  Something tragic will happen if their reckless
interpretation of this new contract article continues, and of course
everyone involved will be blamed, investigated and fired as is what
appears to be the new standard.

Name: KYLE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 09 March 2011

I have had this happen to me too a few times were i made a rq for a
pilot conductor and was told follow the engineer who was qualfied, i
mean all went well with no problems, but if something bad would
occured, then who would get the blame?

Name: suzannah
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 07 March 2011

Tired of it,

NO! NO! NO!  An engineer is not supposed to be your pilot. They know
this and they are just trying to get out of using manpower This is an
isssue that the fra addresses as well. An engineers job is in the seat,
not running around on the ground with you assisting you in a building or
anywhere for that matter. say you ask for a pilot to work several
industries that you are not familiar with... The engineer is not
expected to secure his/her engines, get off the train and walk back
into the buildings to assist you in any situations that may have to be
handled in that job.. I had the same thing suggested to me as an
engineer. They wanted to push a conductor off on me as a pilot into a
terminal I had never been into before. NOT A CHANCE. When that
conductor in riding 50 car lengths away and holding on for dear life,
he doesnt have time to coach me on the radio that we will be changing
grades, making a sharp turn, or my cut is going to take off like a bat
out of hell when we go around the next curve.  You get the picture. Get
your general chairman involved now!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 07 March 2011

years ago back when I was working (am now retired) and chessie and 

seaboard merged and the transportation dept.became known as CSXT

it stood for Customer Surely Xpects Trouble.

Name: CSX Wife
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 06 March 2011

@ Slack Action:  How silly of me... I let my anger with this p*$$-poor
company cloud my judgement.  Of course no one died... it's Hollywood. 
What about the "Safety" aspect?  Was any of that true in the movie? 
Did the engineer REALLY get off the train to try & throw a switch in
order to avoid blowing through it?  Did he REALLY accidently set the
train throttle/switch to notch 8 while setting the independent, then
setting the "air" brakes... did he REALLY not know that the air hoses
were NOT connected to the locomotive, therefore rendering the air brakes
useless?  Was the entire movie made up or what?  Some of it HAD to be
true...  No one died, fine.  But SOMEONE(s) made quite a few STUPID (&
dangerous) mistakes that led to this train becoming a darn runaway.

(Note: Not yelling @ u, I just can't stand this company)

~Angry CSX Wife

Name: tired of it
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 05 March 2011

Have any conductors been told, upon asking for a pilot, that your
engineer will be the pilot?  Quite a few of us at our terminal are
running into this, and it brings back memories of what happened in
Zephyrhills, FL not so many years ago (pilots were denied, train ran a
red going downhill and crashed headlong into another one).  I thought
the agreement was that a pilot still had to be called, but it doesn't
necessarily have to be one working in the same craft, so long as
they're qualified.  Admittedly, i'm no expert on the current contract
stipulations.  Thoughts anyone?

Name: throttle
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 04 March 2011

greatlakes..

Man, you obviously havent been out in the seat for a long time. Maybe
that crew took 40 minutes to go 2 1/2 miles cause they were on a peice
of crap... I personaly am sick of tm's and rd's telling me my power
should be more than adequate to pull my load cause thats what the chart
says.. Who taught these guys that crap. Wish my 10 year old car got the
same gas mileage and pickup it got when I bought it new. How about
getting an engine that constantly drops its load when you trying to get
it to run in 8 notch.How about getting a train that takes for ever to
recover every time you use the air, or an eot that keeps dropping and
you got to slow down cause thats the almighty rules of csx. Cant do
anything wrong with the new csx tattle tale box installed. God forbid
something goes wrong and they down load the engine and you broke a
rule! Next thing you know your on the street or got 6 months overhead.
Lets not forget slow orders and places we have to slow down that arent
slow orders so we dont get thrown out of the seat!  Man if we started
calling you with every little thing that is wrong with our train and
power you would be answering the radio all day! Never could understand
why I would be stuck at a stop signal at 2 am and not one train go by
or dont hear one single crew calling signals then half hour later get a
clear and you dont pass another train for 30 miles. Oh!  Then there is
my favorite. Some dispatcher yelling at a crew wanting to know whats
taking so long to get a set off done and he doesnt have fu...clue what
kind of conditions you are working in or what kind of crap they've had
tossed in their laps, including no paperwork and a disp. asking you to
write down every car number cause they dont know what the hell is
there.  All disp. need to come out there for a month and work with the
crew! Id love to have one on my train. But then with you being on my
train I bet Id be getting the best power in the fleet and highballed
across the RR!

Name: KYLE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 04 March 2011

This might also intrest some of you newbees, when i hired on we still
had a lot of towers, ie block operators, most were ok but we had some
that would not even answer a radio call,They would tell you to stop and
call them on the wayside phone,Guess they had some type of hangup
talking on a radio for some odd reason which i thought was just plaine
assinie and many of those ex block operators became di,s when they
closed most of the block stations.

oh if ya want to hear a pissed off di, just go to youtube and in the yt
search bar, just type in pissed off train dispatcher, think its a di on
bnsf rr taking to a m&w foreman,Its a ton of LMFAO.

Name: greatlakes
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 20-30 years
Posted: 04 March 2011

I was typing while ranting...

My crews now sp.(know) who I am.
and I take care of them very well.

Name: greatlakes
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 20-30 years
Posted: 04 March 2011

Name: curious
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 02 March 2011

Sir, I don't think you understand...

I have never yelled at a crew when I come into work.
Now....when I have 7 trains stopped and 3 are about ready to outlaw and
its taking you 40 damn minutes to run 2 1/2 miles to clear an
interlocking.......YES!!!! I am going to start yelling....

Dsp: Whats taking so long Qxxx-xx?
Cond: ...Eng is in the shitter....

Damit....TELL ME THAT!! so I can make other plans.

When I come in and have 8 trains outlawed and 20 more in route without
any outbound crews....I am not going to behave like Mr. Rodgers.

BLAME CSX UPPER MANAGEMENT FOR REMOVING THE ACDS. THEY CANT KEEP UP
WITH THIS SHIT.   I AM FED UP WITH IT.


My crews now who I am.
and I take care of them very well.

This last month has been pure hell!

Name: loco engr
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 03 March 2011

GAT was a hoot to work with..he didn't give a dmn about anything.  He
would lay 123 out just to piss TM McDonald off....lol

Name: slack action
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 03 March 2011

Angry wife: nobody died on CSX during the eng 8888 incidence in Ohio...
The movie lacked numerous differences from the actual incidence...

Name: slack action
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 03 March 2011

Loco engr:  I have to agree with you...  The old AJ desk had some good
ones... CLP. JFB, JCC, SWH, GAT, TME, DG,

Name: CSX Wife
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 03 March 2011

"Rule #1: Don't get hurt."  They have this as rule 1 because they
don't want to have to PAY for your medical bills if/when you DO get
injured.  The movie "Unstoppable" was actually based on a CSX
train... (WARNING: Movie Spoiler Ahead)  there was an engineer (I
believe) who was killed in the movie trying to do something the company
ordered him to do.  Once he passed away in the movie, nothing else was
mentioned about him.  The least (and I do mean LEAST) they could have
done was include his name and a nice short eulogy at the end of the
movie like, "In Loving Memory of [engineer's name].  You are
missed."  No such courtesy was given.  I can't stand CSX.  They dog
their workers (one of which is my husband) and I'm tired of it.  As
I've said in another post, CSX Doesn't Care About Its Employees!

~Angry CSX Wife

Name: KYLE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 03 March 2011

O ne of the problems train dispatchers main problems are TM,S, They are
constantly calling the di,s and trying to tell them how to RUN THE
SHOW, Most of it is TM,S worring like hell about the locals, Ie they
don,t want the locals to make the OT, it looks bad for thier budget,So
the tm,s being a superior officer, the di,s have to follow thier dumb
orders, So the di,s tie up the main line making the reg freight,s wait
in sidings while the locals do the main line switching, I have when i
was on reg pool runs were the di would put the local out in front of us
while the locals worked 4 different industries along the line just to
please a TM and of course we are the ones who outlawed and all the
trains behind us, Ie follow the parade, Hell i have even seen in person
were yard masters have told the di,s how to run the show.

Name: loco engr
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 03 March 2011

For the most part, good dispatchers are a thing of the past.  Most of
them now days don't have a clue as to whats going on.  I can site you
many examples proving that they had no idea what was going on. 

Remember, they run the show and if a train dies on the line of road,
then usually he's the one who has to answer for it.

A couple of dispatchers I worked with over the years, JFB and CLP. 
These guys were the best, they could run trains, hands down.  They were
the best I've ever worked with in my 34 yrs.

Name: curious
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 02 March 2011

question for the traindispatchers.....


Whats up with the lack of job briefings amongst you!  One chief has
nothing to do with that. numerous times I have had a dispatcher get on
the radio after taking over the next shift start yelling at me wanting
to know why Im opening a main switch, or working in the interlocking
that he wants to run trains through. when i try to explain to him that
this is what we were told to do or decided to do with the last
dispatcher , all I get is... Well i didnt know that! You need to stop
what your doing and blahhh  blahhh blahh.  Like its our fault you dont
know what the hell is going on.   Dont be yelling at the crews because
you guys break one of csx's cardinal rules... Have a job briefing with
each other.  I bet none of you get charged for that rules failure!

Name: slack action
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 02 March 2011

The name came about during merger talks between Chessie System, Inc. and
Seaboard System Railroad, Inc., commonly called Chessie and Seaboard.
The company chairmen said it was important for the new name to include
neither of those names because it was a partnership. Employees were
asked for suggestions, most of which consisted of combinations of the
initials. At the same time a temporary shorthand name was needed for
discussions with the Interstate Commerce Commission. CSC was chosen but
belonged to a trucking company in Virginia. CSM (for Chessie-Seaboard
Merger) was also taken. The lawyers decided to use CSX, and the name
stuck. In the public announcement, it was said that "CSX is singularly
appropriate. C can stand for Chessie, S for Seaboard, and X, the
multiplication symbol, means that together we are so much more." The T
had to be added to CSX when used as a reporting mark because reporting
marks that end in X means that the car is owned by a leasing company or
private car owner of some sort.[2]

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 02 March 2011

X was for extra companies owned by CSX besides the 2 major railroad
merger companies


I bet they would have changed it had they known the future Fan
Favorites lol

Name: slack action
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 02 March 2011

Chessie/Seaboard Xpress.... or the fan favorite... Chicken SHi* Xpress

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 02 March 2011

I was on another site and they wanted to know what c.s.x. stands for?
Here is what i was told almost 25 yrs. ago .Chessie,seaboard,and the x
was for excellence. Now lets see if anyone really knows the answer.

Name: slack action
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 01 March 2011

2)  Slow orders:  Major rail gang work is done in the south during the
winter months and in the north during the summer.  Slow orders are put
on sections of track for a number of reasons.  No use spending thousand
of dollars to fix track when a rail gang will be replacing the rail in
the future.  CSX puts all of its money on the high dollar routes; IE (
UPS, Amtrak,  Juice, heavy traffic sub divisions )  Rail lines that are
not used by a lot of rail traffic does not get the attention it needs
even, if it is single main track.. It it not cost effective.....

Name: Tee
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 01 March 2011

"4)Why didn't CSX use the slow down in business to train more
engineers instead of furloughing employees? Most of the furloughed
employees did not return-costing CSX millions in training & recruiting
costs for brand new employees."


This.

Name: KYLE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 01 March 2011

Hi does anyone know who JERVIS LANGDON was? WHen it was still conrail i
can recall that name on my paychecks, But i thought he was a B&O
offical????

As far as some of these other posts about the bitching while waiting in
sidings for hours on end,,Don,t forget that most lines were double track
at one time, but rr managers seen fit a few yrs ago to make a lot of
double track singel lines and thats why we have that problem today as
they did not have the company forsite to see what would happen in the
long run and now they are paying for the big mistakes they made.

Name: Train Dispatcher
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 20-30 years
Posted: 27 February 2011

Remember when I told ya all the great lakes div. was melting down a few
months ago?


The Great Lakes ACD can't keep up (doing the work of 4 chiefs)
The Train Dispatchers can't keep up.  because the chiefs are to busy
to call recrews/cabs/ hell, they don't even balance crews any more.
And there are no crews to run trains.

The bosses can't keep up either... they are running around like
headless chickens.

Name: slack action
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 26 February 2011

re Banker:

If you tone in a dispr on the the emergency channel it should only take
a maximum of 45 seconds before it is answered... It will light up as red
bar and indicating an emergency on their communications console ... If
the dispr is not at his/her desk ( yes, they do take breaks ) it will
roll over to the chief dispr, then the STO/DTO...I have seen other
disprs even get up from their desk to answer another train dispr
emergency radio...

Hope this helps

Name: The Banker
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 26 February 2011

Cindy Sanborn-is she punking Michael Ward or doing his bidding?

She is an executive that believes in putting what's best for her
career first-the railroad be damned.

Just a few examples since CSX is not paying me for a consult:

1) Trains sitting behind red signals on single track-waiting for light
into double track because she "saved" the company money by having one
dispatcher cover the territory formerly covered by two. On a sunny day
with light traffic this might make sense. Now crews are spending an
hour or two a day longer on duty, recrews are up, real train velocity
is reduced but she appears to be a smart budget cutter. In any type of
emergency-the dispatcher can take a half-hour or more to tone in. Oscar
Munoz is able to brag to investors about how expenses have been reduced.
Kudos to Cindy! That it puts the public & CSX at risk in an emergency is
not her priority.

2)Reducing the budget for engine & track maintenance. The capital
budget for new projects has gone up, however, 25 mph slow orders on
single track, engines that stop pulling a hundred miles after they left
a shop, so trains limp along below track speed, derailments on main
track.

3)Waiting an hour for a jitney. It causes recrews, mark offs,& trains
being held for crews.

4)Why didn't CSX use the slow down in business to train more engineers
instead of furloughing employees? Most of the furloughed employees did
not return-costing CSX millions in training & recruiting costs for
brand new employees.

5)Some yardmasters weren't needed. But the cuts went way too
far-leaving train crews begging to be answered by Yardmasters-who are
too busy to relieve themselves. The lack of onsite Yardmasters or any
security means Yards are wide open.

6)Single remote crews in dangerous areas-where Road Trains are moving
in & out. The lack of an engineer means one less set of eyes in large
Yards that are easily accessible.

7)Too many managers that are Cindy twins-train operations & safety are
not their priority-their own careers come first. Managers are taught to
lie & rewarded for it. The employees are not listened to or respected.
Gee 99% of the time we are completely unsupervised & get the train
safely over the road or switched in the Yard but we a pieces of
shit-instead of a valuable resource to Cindy.

8) The Baltimore Division is a perfect example-they had a third of the
workforce get time off last year & they are number one in injuries so
far this year-hat's off to Cindy! Injuries cost the company money
Cindy-Michael Ward-or investors may one day wise up!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 25 February 2011

Go
figure!>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.

Name: curious
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 10-20 years
Posted: 22 February 2011

Does anyone know anything about a rumor going around that a female
trainmaster(not sure where) took the handbrakes off the engines of
train tied down just to nail the crew that was on it.  Rumor has it
that she was caught on tape by an industries cameras next to the yard
and the only thing she had to do was apologize to the crew. She
supposidly has her job!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 February 2011

HA HA
Dang I missed the most important step. 
12. Going to try that one. like NOW

Goofy

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 31 January 2011

Hey Goob:

It's a twelve step program to a happy life...

  12. Happy hour all day long!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 31 January 2011

The NEW Railroad T?E and TM's are so removed from real life that no one
really knows what to expect. let me give you a few examples.

1. School 8 to 3
2. People sleep at night.
3. weekends are for fun.
4. Family needs time.
5. College is a 10am class and a few beers.
6. Weather is just there every day.
7. Rent is due on or about the 1st.
8. Mgr's are not around much.
9. Get paid for every hour.
10.No Homework.
11.Sweet life.

It just does not work this way. The strong will adjust, retire, and
have a good life. Others will move along and do the same.
The rest will fall by the wayside with regrets. Man that is just LIFE.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 30 January 2011

Hey Retired:

That's an astute observation. That's why we see the new TM etc
getting hired upon graduation.

It seems that most companies today would rather hire green employees
and train, or should I say indoctrinate them into their way of doing
things.

I believe this began at CSX when Ingram was hired. Unfortunately once
started these develop a life of their own and become self perpetuating.
The only way this will change is CSX to have a dynamic 
CEO; someone with more mettle than Ward.

CSX wants all their employees to have one foot out the door and the on
sheet ice.

Name: Retired
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for N/A
Posted: 30 January 2011

Regarding Middleton and all the CSX Lies.  It must be that Blue Kool Aid
the new management is give while training at Redi and Jacksonville.

Almost all of them will do anything to save their job.  My conclusion
is simple they are trained that way and all of them seem like they
would suck a big fat cock to keep their job.  Maybe CSX has movies of
them doing that at some of those CSX Gay Orgy parties.

There is something Queer about it all from the stories that percolate
out on the property.

Not drinking no damn Kool Aid.

Name: L&N Conductor
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 30 January 2011

Several years ago, Middleton lied about an entire crew just to get the
conductor.  The whole crew was fired because that lowdown excuse for a
human told a bold face lie about the whole thing.  What made matters
worse, was that he had another TM, Donnie Moore from Radnor Yard as a
witness and he lied as well.

Donnie's dad was my TM for years, one hellva good man and 3 times the
railroad man that either one of these two clowns could ever want or
wish to be.  He treated you fair and with respect, therefore he got
respect.

Name: signal man 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 1-10 years
Posted: 30 January 2011

To the guy who asked about a PTC helper job. They are in fact a Union
Job. You will be a laborer a small group of other helpers led by a more
expericenced signalman or signal foreman. You will accrue senority on a
different roster and will be first to apply for up coming vacancies on
the normal roster for each area. Keep looking for signal jobs in your
area. The REDI center aint bad. Most of trhe engineering group is laid
back. Stay away from the transportation people down there they are
kinda up tight. Most of them are old trainmen that didnt want to have
to "work" so they get thier kicks on walking around getting on
people. They wontfire you or nothing. Just keep your mouth shut and get
on the job. 

Tranporation people= I thought forever that you guys just bithced and
cried all the time, and I am right for some of you. But I see why, I
have met some sorry ass trainmaster and yardmasters latley. I feel
lucky for being in engineering, except for a few asshole managers we
get treated pretty decent. And our managers have more territory then a
TM with no relief. Now some of you guys just need to chill. I have seen
alot of dumb mistakes made by train crews and it is making everyone look
bad. At some point in a mans life they need to take responsibility and
be a man. You cant always blame someone else. Quit blaming others for
runnig reds and backing through switches that you just split the point
on. Man up pussies. This is not for all of you, I know some people have
legitimate problems and most of them come from shitty TM's

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 30+ years
Posted: 30 January 2011

Yeah you're right about Jeff. I often wonder why he doesn't just put a
bullet in his head since everyone including his wife and kids hate him.
But then after that all he has to look forward to is burning in hell.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 30 January 2011

Jeff Middleton will burn in hell one day!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 28 January 2011

Hey Goob:

We are were at one time back in the day...and our Daddies let us know
too!

That's one I remember 50 years later...and so do you!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 28 January 2011

Former railroad engineer sues UP for more than $150K in rollover crash  
10/21/2010 8:12 AM By Andrea Dearden  

A former railroad engineer blames Union Pacific and a transportation
company for a rollover crash he says left him permanently injured.
Scott D. Nation filed the lawsuit against Professional Transportation
Inc., Nolan B. Hawkins Jr. and Union Pacific Railroad Company Sept. 30
in St. Clair County Circuit Court.
Nation says the three defendants are responsible for an alleged crash
that happened in October 2008 on Highway 100 in Osage County, Missouri
while Nation was working as an engineer.
Nation says Hawkins was working for Professional Transportation Inc.
and was responsible for driving Nation from one work site to another.
According to the complaint, Hawkins was on Highway 100 near the
intersection of County Road 219 when he missed a curve, drove off the
road and rolled the vehicle down and embankment.
Nation says he suffered severe and permanent injuries in the crash and,
as a result, has been unable to work or participate in the activities he
enjoyed before the incident.
Nation contends the defendants are liable for damages because Hawkins
negligently failed to drive at a proper speed, failed to slow down to
avoid leaving the road and failed to keep a proper lookout.
Nation is asking to be awarded more than $50,000 in damages from each
defendant for physical pain, mental anguish, medical expenses and court
costs.
William P. Gavin of the Gavin Law Firm in Belleville is representing
Nation.
St. Clair County Circuit Court Case No. 10-L-513

Name: kyle
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 28 January 2011

All i know is when i hired on there was still a lot of old heads, most
of them were ok but we did have a few of them who did treat new bees
like dirt, I was one of them who got treated like that from a few old
miserable bastards and a lot of them were confirmed alcoholics too,
everyone knew it too even the managment and they let them get away with
it, they would not even have the respect to call you by your first name,
they yell at you and say things like hey brakey throw that switch, open
that kunckle, things like that, no wonder why i hated some of them,
wish i could have coupled a few of them up, You don,t get respect
acting that way to other rr workers, respect must be earned not forced,
I know i will get old too but i know 1 thing,,i will never be like some
of those old miserable bastards as i do have compassion for the peeps i
work with, Heck i even have respect for my tm,s & ref,s even though some
of them don,t deserve it.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 28 January 2011

Conductor 10-20 has it right on.
As far as snot nosed kids I was one and most were.
4/5 man crews were there every trip, sometimes 6.
I applied to the RR for work, ended up as a Fireman, could have been a
Switchman, Clerk, MOW, B&B,----- Just lucky walked in the right door at
the right time. I was told to run as quick as possible from the RR the
same as when I left and started in the tobacco business. Both were
considered old business with no future.

Today (50 yrs later) Their are opportunities to be had in both
industries.

The right mind set and positive attitude will be the key.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 January 2011

So did this one.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 January 2011

Goob

I wasn't a snot nosed kid when I hired on the railroad. I didn't have
a grandfather, father, or some kind of relative get me the job. I was
hired because of being a veteran. It wasn't easy back then most
co-workers were pissed thinking I screwed their kid out of a job. That
was alright there were jobs no one wanted like the skatemen riding
clear tracks off the hump yard, bleeder jobs ect.... The family
atmosphere is long gone on the railroad. That's why these new hires
have a difficult time. They don't have a relative to show them the
ropes. Some think it's the new railroad it's the 21st century
they're going to change it. I hope they do. I wish them a lot of luck.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 January 2011

Cond 10-20

You sound like a snot nosed little kid. Boo Hoo!!!! You don't pay my
retirement I earned it. Just keep paying into it mabey someday you'll
grow up and get to that point. That's right sonny, we had 4-5 people
on a train we also have forgotten more about railroading than you'll
ever know. Times have changed. We didn't have radios we used hand
signals and positioned men to relay them to the LE. Hand signals today
is ya'll using your thumb to press down on that radio key while the LE
is looking down at you trying to couple up the locomotives to the train.
What we did back then is none of your concern in fact your opinion is
twisted. Sounds like your a bit jealous. Boo Hoo!!! Go cry a river
somewhere else.

Name: Engr Run  #8
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 January 2011

Conductor 10-20 Yrs.....Partner, you pretty much got it right on the
money as to what we "oldheads" use to do at work.  Oh well, things
change, time marches on. 

We had a Asst. Trainmaster tell us in 1978, that by 1990, there won't
be a caboose on a train and it would only be the Engr. and Conductor
shortly thereafter.  So, it was gonna be, no matter what, we just made
the best of it.  You can't set there and tell me you wouldn't have
done the same things we did if you'd been in our shoes at that point
in time.

So get over it, man up as they say and stop pissin' fumin' and
moanin' about it.  Make the best of a bad situation or just find
another job. 

Y'all stay marked up now so we can get those 4k checks on the 1st of
every month.  Work safe and a much heart felt "thanks" for keeping
our money coming. Know that you are appreciated.

locomotive Engineer: Nashville Div.- N&C Subdiv.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 27 January 2011

This goes to RRJ, how pathetic is your retired life. That you come on
here and bash guys for complaining about their job on  a site called
CSX-SUXS.com are you really that dense? Get off your high horse telling
guys how bad it was back in your time, yea real HARD TIMES. You guys
partied at your job, you had 5 guys to a crew, you had cabooses, the
engineers and fireman took turns running, because either too drunk or
too tired, you had all kinds of arbitraties, that the guys before you
fought for and you guys SOLD!!!!!! Lets see all the times you guys
FUCKED UP running a switch or sideswipping cars and the TRAINMASTERS
let you walk, but burned us for the same thing. So how about you go
feed the pigeons in the park or go to the seniors club, and let the
GROWNUPS ie. present railroaders come on here and BITCH! YOU JUST SIT
AT HOME AND WATCH OPRA, while we pay your railroad retirement check,
you useless old fuck company kiss ass!!!! Boo hoo guys come on here and
bitch about the company I USED TO WORK FOR!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 27 January 2011

CSX sold/leased a lot of trackage to shortlines. CSX still hauls the
finished work with just a pickup or set off. CSX still makes money. A
few years back CSX tried to do away with MOW wanting to contract the
track work out. The MOW union merged into the IBT Rail Conferance along
with the BLET to have power in numbers. Every railroad would love to get
rid of track workers, road conductors (use utilitymen), laborers,
machinist ect...and contract the work out. It's not the wages CSX
cares about it's the benefits. Look at clerks there pretty much
non-excistent in some locations computers and hand held work report
screens have done away with their need. If CSX could get their
auto-call system working correctly (which it might be now when I left
it wasn't) crew callers would be gone. I talked to someone on BNSF
recently they have it if a person wants a day off for personal
business, doctor appointment ect...they go into the computer and
schedule it at least 24 hours in advance without having to deal with
CMC. Technology is destroying America. A friend of mines daughter whose
22 bitches about money always broke. Her priorities are out of whack.
This generation has everything in the palm of their hand with these
devices like blackberry which have internet access ect....that cost
about $100+ a month to run. My friend told her get a laptop she balked
because that is so out of style. People can't bitch about technology
when they're embracing it.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 26 January 2011

Hey Kyle:

The technology exists to allow the CSX to run all their line hauls from
the terminal, Division HQ or even Jacksonville. Fortunately the FRA and
the rest of our Government aren't quite ready to test those waters yet
and neither are the voters!

But it's nice to know that you could get rid of 90% of the suits
and nothing would change except the bottom line which would look
better!

The RR is perhaps the only business that can run itself.

Name: kyle
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 26 January 2011

It does amaze me that the rr has and did do away with a lot of branch
lines, some of those brach lines were running 3 to 6 long trains a day,
The freight has to start for somewere and they were making money only in
thier view it was not enough money to satasfie the company so they
closed them all down and told the customers to ship by truck, You can,t
have it both ways to suite your needs, As far as 1 man crews, you can
bet yer ass that if they could run all the road trains by remote
control they would do it in a instant.

Name: T
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 25 January 2011

That would be interesting to see what the unions do about such a
scenario. CSX Intermodal has been sub-contracting yard crews in Chicago
for YEARS. I believe they are contract employees but they are not CSX
employees. Never heard any objections to speak of.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 25 January 2011

Hey T:

That's a interesting observation...one I'm embarrassed to say hadn't
crossed my mind.

Your right...I'm sure some officer and/or director is working that
angle. I don't know how they would maneuver around the unions though.
They could probably get foamers to do it for free and use their
personal vehicles as well!

Hope we didn't give them any ideas.

Name: T
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 25 January 2011

They would save a fortune. All they have to do is sub-contract the work.
Some hillbilly would jump at the chance to get a truck and make $10 an
hour with no benefits. Hell most days he'd be sitting on his ass the
whole shift. In fact therres probably some board member or relative of
just waiting for an opportunity to bid on such a contract.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 25 January 2011

Hey Goober:

10-12 trains per shift might be a little ambitious...but using
your logic there would a big savings. However you must keep in mind
that a lot of the areas are not easily accessible by foot and would
require long walks, high rails or boats to get to. What is a 2 or 3
hour ML blockage worth?

The was also talk at one time of making all the Road Jacks remote and
giving the engineer a belt pack to handle the set offs, pick ups and
line of road repairs!

I think both have about a snow balls chance in hell of happening
any time soon...I also think the UTU still has a crew consist agreement
with CSX which would have to be dealt with before either could happen.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 25 January 2011

NO MO

Just think 10 to 12 trains passing that Truck per shift, with no
Conductor on board. Office is the TRUCK. 50 miles each way, maybe.

12 trains per shift x 3 =36 Conductors
12 Trains per shift with No Conductor = 3 at a lower rate of pay, (or
full scale).

It will save a Fortune. Is my math wrong, or just my thinking??

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 25 January 2011

Hey AB:

One man crews is nothing new, they have been discussed since the 90s.
If CSX ever went to a one man crew, they would still have to have
utility men stationed at least every 50 miles along the road. They
would also have to furnish a company vehicle and maintain a office for
them to work from. Each location would have to be manned 24 hours a day
which means at least 3 men per location. Not much savings
and when you factor in travel time, time to locate and fix the problem
and ML blockage it hardly seems worth the effort.

As far as the Locals are concerned...unless CSX is willing to give
the servicing carrier trackage rights, which CSX has historically not
done, CSX will continue to service those industries. When I worked the
job in Pascagoula, MS we averaged placing/picking up 35 cars a night (5
days a week) from the Chevron refinery. There was 2 other businesses
that we serviced on the line and averaged 17 cars a week.
The was a small yard, so another carrier could work that job. However,
I was told that Chevron paid for the operation of the entire
sub-division. The Theodore job we would average 30 cars from Degussa
and an another 25 cars from Holnan a night. There is no yard at
Theodore so CSX would have to PU and deliver to the switch every
day.

There are no doubt operations throughout the system that don't justify
the expense necessary to service them. Where possible those job should
be contracted to another party.

Name: AB
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 24 January 2011

Nomo 

They are working to become more efficent...its called one man crews.
But when you look at the Cap Ex and where it's going its not locals;
it's Long Haul. CSX is behind in Tech but there catching up fast; and
part of that will lead to one man crews. Tech has to be paid for
someway. CSX is cordinating their efforts with the widening of the Suez
Canal. Csx makes majority of their money by the car type etc x number of
miles taken. Picking up 3 cars from 1 local sending it 200 miles to
another is much more expensive these days then picking up 100 cars and
transporting them 600 miles; all at one time.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 23 January 2011

Hey AB:

CSX was moving to line haul 10 years ago and has been selling road,
abandoning track and divesting non core business since.

I was once told that the locals paid the bills and the line hauls
made the profit...I don't see that as changing. True the locals
cost more to operate but it's hard to control your business when
you and your customers are dependent on a third party. 

The class 1 roads just have to become more efficient, which means
they have to think creatively. Creative thinking and railroads have, up
until now never been used in the same sentence. As an example,
CSX at one time had plans to become a paperless operation...they
use more paper today than they did 5 years ago. With today's
technology CSX is dinosaur. Think about how much money could be saved
in paper and toner with just a little creative thinking?

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 23 January 2011

Hey Joe:

It's good to hear you're still hangin' in there...hang tight, the
economy is slowly improving so some additional opportunities will open
up.

You may want to consider NG pipeline companies, there are several
that run through Eastern TN, Western NC and VA. $15/hour ain't great
but it's better than most...at least you can occasionally buy some
ground beef to add to that mac & cheese.

How much longer does your wife have until she graduates and what is her
major? Sounds like you may need to go to Dental school...keep your
teeth, you will lose them soon enough:)

Good luck.

Name: evie1958
E-mail: suthrnrazd@msn.com
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 20-30 years
Posted: 23 January 2011

RIP  M.W.C. gone from us but never forgotten.

Name: average joe
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 22 January 2011

hey guys rrj nomo all the guys that might remeber me, hell see you guys
are still bitchin lol.  hell i guess since ive talked to you guys last
ive been to two or three rr interviews.  none of them successfull but
thats okay they were all away from town since i had just bought a house
at the time it would have sucked to actually get a job in lugoff sc i
was one of 5 applicants that showed up for that one and thanked god for
not getting that one dont get me wrong if i got it i would have made it
work unitl i could get closer but hell i live in east tn. and no
offense to those in sc but there are alot of lets say trash around that
area i do believe i heard gun shots twice during the night when i was
there lol 
but hey i make 15 bucks an hour now without paid leave no sick time no
health benifits untile my wife finishes school then maybe i can have my
teeth pulled that way i can suck dick enough to get a job in the erwin
termial like ppl i was passed over for who had multiple duis lol

Name: AB
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 22 January 2011

Nomo

The whole game is changing. Yes there has always been change but the
entire business model is changing for the railroad. They are not
focusing on "local" anymore besides stuff like coal with lots of cars
on a consistent basis. They are going to majority intermodal/trans-state
line. They make 7x amount of money taking that boxcar from Virginia to
rosewood vs picking up a local and transporting 250 miles. Thats where
regional trucking/regional railroads come in because they can do it
cheaper and better for the customer then CSX can. For CSX the profit
they get just doesn't justify there small locals anymore so their
changing the entire game long distance hauling.

Name: AB
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 22 January 2011

RRJ

 

What’s crazy is that you actually argue both sides without ever
realizing it. You mostly look top down; 30 yrs looking back; as we new
guys look bottom up, looking 30 yrs down the road. 

The only...and I mean the only reason to work for the railroad is $$$$
starting out in today’s railroad. As you said there no other place to
make this kind of money without a better education or great experience.
 . Just quit; walked back into my former profession now making over 60
again like I was before working 55 hrs mon-fri. But I’m the exception
to the rule. I had other opportunities with a degree.

But I will say this I loved, and I mean loved railroading. Yes it was
short but man it gets into your blood and I truly do get a little
sentimental when I hear that horn blast going down the road. I miss it
and wish I could have done it for the rest of my life. For us new guys,
most at least; its not railroading but rather CSX; they are just a piss
poor company to work for. Not saying others are better. If I could have
started 15 years ago it would be a different story. But CSX is a piss
poor company and for somebody that’s still young with opportunities I
just don't want to work for them for the next 30 years. Wish there was
a part time job or something because I loved doing it.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 22 January 2011

Hey RRJ:

The Turd Watch list just got longer...I wonder if Frulla can repeat?

The RR isn't rocket science and the management aren't rocket
scientists, hell, they're not even qualified as switchmen. Until
CSX begins to promote from the ranks, I'm afraid CSX will continue
their downward spiral into the oblivion of fallen flags.

As I said before, the RR is a production job...the cars have to be
switched, the trains built and worked and delivered. If any one of
those fails to happen as it's suppose to, it creates problems
throughout the system.

Management, at all levels has become adept at explaining these
production problems away...they change or ignore the criteria they use
to measure production...they sell off assets and increase rates
to keep their EPS and stock prices, salaries and bonuses up.

This is not unique to CSX, all the carriers do it, they have to...to
protect their aura of infallibility. The first one that breaks with
this tradition will leave the rest in their dust. However, in order to
do this they will first have to have experienced line personnel making
the decisions!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 22 January 2011

NoMo

Up till around 5 years ago the sub I was working which was 72 miles
turning happened most of the time. We might of gone to the lodging
every 2 months if that. Then new management came along in Newport News
with the new big picture. Now train crews are lucky to make it the 72
miles the crews are spending 8-24+ hours in lodging ect...I would think
higher management would of fired the brain dead terminal manager by now
if they looked at past performance in that yard. Then the dumb arse is
going all remote the only one they use to have was in the Class yard
switching out manifest now they got them pulling empties out of the
piers 50 cars at a time. That means at least 3 pulls from the piers
instead of one. Where the departure yard is located from the piers it
most likely takes around 2-3 hours per move. A coal can make it from
Richmond in 3-4 hours then they sit in the recieving yard till they hog
because this idiots new plan yard crews have priority over road crews.
If yard remote crews make up one train a shift there lucky. That's 3-4
trains a day max while 6-7 road crews vegitate in lodging. I would of
Fired TM Mike Greathouse's arse a long time ago along with TM
"Kangaroo Jack" Renick & TM "Uncle Fester" Happle. Instead CSX
Huntington GM Bob "Potato Head" Frulla praises the idiot. "How
tommorow moves" the question is "What about today?". lol

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 22 January 2011

Hey Retired:

Check the CSX vehicles next time you see one...odds are their tags are
out of state (FL). The transporters do buy gas and therefore
pay some taxes.

The point made in a prior post is valid. The drivers are not required
to take any rest unlike the train and airline crews; bus and drayage
drivers. This practice, in my opinion, creates safety issues for the
crews and should be addressed by the Unions.

The carriers will fight it because the transporters would have to
increase their rates to the carriers and hire more personnel.

The best solution is for the carriers to become more efficient in
running trains and on those runs where possible, to meet and turn the
crews. Some years ago, maybe 8 or 9, there was notice put out that said
CSX spent $300 million on cab fairs. By now it's probably 
increased substantially. Not only would turning the crews save vast
amounts in cab fares but think what it would save in lodging, meals and
detention...not to mention the improvement to the crews' quality
of life!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 22 January 2011

Here in Virginia PTI also transports crews to Maryland, N.Carolina, and
W.Virginia. The tags are issued from the state where the home office is
located. Just like people one can keep their out of state plates if
their primary residence isn't the same as their work location. I'm
sure PTI falls under ICC regulations.

Name: retired
E-mail: fitzgerald ga
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 22 January 2011

while everyone IS on P T I JUST LOOK AT EACH VAN AND YOU WILL NOTICE
EVERYONE OF THEM HAS A INDIANA TAG ON THEM. JUST IN GA ALONE OVER 100
VANS EACH ONE OF THEM PUTS FROM 100 THOUSAND MILES UP TO 200 THOUSAND 
MILES EVERY YEAR ON EASH ONE AND PAY NO TAXES ON NONE THEY OPERATE WITH
OUT OF STATE TAGS EVERY STATE AROUND I FEEL LIKE THEY SHOUD HAVE TO AT
LEAST BUY GA TAGS WHEN OPERATING IN THEIR STATE LIKE IN GA BUT  NONE OF
THESE VANS HAS A GA TAG JUST THINK HOW MUCH MONEY GA AND EVERY OTHER
STATE IS LOSSING IN TAG FEES. I HAVE CALLED SEVERAL PEOPLE BUT NO ONES
SEEMS TO KNOW HOW THEY OPERATE WITHOUT THEW PROPER TAG.THESE VANS NEVER
LEAVE THE STATE AND IF YOU NOTICE HAS ACCIDENT ON GA ROADS VERY OFTEN.
if you can think of someone that could handle this and make them pay
then do it. I OWN A BOAT AND A SMALL TRAILER AND USE VERY LITTLE BUT
HAVE TO BUY A TAG EVERY YEAR.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 21 January 2011

Do Not discount the Shuttle drivers. They are trying to make a living.
I see some that are really as good or better than on call T/E. They
make less, but work it out with hours.
We have all seen the Engineer/ Conductor that works every trip, begs
for a call and can never work enough.
Same thing with a few Crew drivers. They will sleep in naps and run
24/7, They spend a lot of time waiting.

168 hours in a week X $12.00 =$2016.00

Some of these folks are very work orientated and do not make $400.00
per week.

There are Sharpe shooters in every trade.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 21 January 2011

I regard to the post concerning the CSX/PTI accident...A blind man
can see whose fault this was.

CSX demands their employees take responsibility for their actions,
however, CSX denies all responsibility for it's actions. What's wrong
with this picture?

It's hard to lead by example when you set a bad example...do as I say,
not as I do!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 20 January 2011

u-aint seen nothin yet

Name: Robofuq
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 20 January 2011

I recently had a 300 mile D/H with 7 other railroaders in 1 van,
starting around midnight, with a driver on duty 13 hours before he
picked us up.  We made it, but by the time the driver got back home he
had more than 24 hrs straight behind the wheel. These contract cab
companies pay next to nothing, no benefits, no hours of service regs;
hell, I don't even know if they drug test the drivers.  Safety
first........

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 20 January 2011

It looks like Mr. useless has found yet another way to mark off other
than FMLA, its safety overlap meetings.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 20 January 2011

PTI wasn't responsible it was the CSX truck that was at fault. If PTI
would of been at fault CSX would of been off the hook. Read the
article. You posted it.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 20 January 2011

“White Snow” vs. “Black Ice”
Jury rejects CSXT's slick version of the facts and awards an injured
Engineer $3.98 Million.  (Ten times what the railroad offered to settle
this case before it went to trial.) 

James L. Fairna, Attorney
Hoey & Farina, P.C.
1-888-425-1212
info@hoeyfarina.com

James L. Farina of Hoey & Farina, P.C. reported that his associate,
George Brugess, obtained a $3,979,686 verdict in U.S. District Court in
Indianapolis, Indiana on behalf of Kevin Roberts, a former engineer, and
against CSX Transportation, Inc. (“CSXT”). The jury trial under the
Federal Employers’ Liability Act (“FELA”) began on August 24, 2010 and
concluded with the verdict on August 27, 2010. 
On December 6, 2006, Mr. Roberts was called for a train to operate
between Avon Yard, in Avon, Indiana and Cincinnati, Ohio. The crew’s
time expired while en-route. The CSXT then sent a van to the train to
transport the crew back to Avon Yard. As the van approached Avon Yard
at approximately 5:30 a.m. on December 7, 2006, a CSXT machinist in a
CSXT owned heavy work truck lost control of his truck and crashed
head-on into the van. According to Mr. Roberts’ testimony, as
corroborated by Officer Nathan Challis of the Marion County Sheriff’s
Department who investigated the accident, the weather was treacherous.
It was snowing and the roads were covered with ice and blowing snow.
The CSXT heavy work truck driver admitted to Officer Challis at the
scene that there were adverse driving conditions and he failed to
engage the four-wheel drive on his truck. He also admitted that he lost
control, crossed the center line and collided head-on with the van. Mr.
Roberts was taken by ambulance to the emergency room because of his
serious injuries. Both vehicles had substantial damage and were towed.
The driver of the CSXT heavy work truck was brought back to the yard
and interrogated by CSXT management officials about the accident. The
driver explained what happened and that one passenger in the van, Mr.
Roberts, was seriously injured and taken to the hospital. After this
discussion, CSXT management made the driver complete a second accident
report for CSXT. At trial CSXT offered the driver’s second statement
into evidence. The driver testified at trial that the weather was
clear, the roads were dry and the accident was caused by an unexpected
patch of black ice. Further, after the heavy truck skidded on the black
ice, it sideswiped the van. 
At trial, the jury was asked to decide whether the “white snow” version
of the accident as reported by the Marion County Sheriff’s Department
investigating officer and Kevin Roberts was correct or whether the
“black ice” version of the accident from CSXT was the truth of the
matter. CSXT argued at trial that it could not be held responsible for
an accident caused by unforeseen “black ice.”
Mr. Roberts’ injuries and medical treatment included surgical repair to
his knee and multiple cartilage injections, surgery on his elbow,
fractures of his shoulder that went undiagnosed and eventually required
surgery, and serious injury to his cervical spine requiring steroid
injections and a referral for spinal surgery. The U.S. Railroad
Retirement Board eventually determined that Kevin Roberts is
permanently disabled due to the injuries from this accident.
After deliberating for two hours, the jury rejected CSXT’s arguments
and awarded Mr. Roberts $3,979,686 in damages. The last pre-trial
settlement offer from CSXT was only $400,000. 
Congratulations to Mr. Roberts and George Brugess for bringing this
matter to justice.  

Does anyone know who was operating the van that Mr. Roberts was riding
in when this accident happened?  If you guessed “Professional
Transportation Incorporated” then you are absolutely correct.  How many
more personal injury lawsuits will CSXT have to face before they learn
their lessons about PTI?  Are CSXT company officials that clueless and
stubborn or both?  Makes you wonder doesn’t it?

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 19 January 2011

Robofuq

Reverse lodging is an issue for the union to change. The DM doesn't
have that right to grant it. Most likely it's more of a battle between
the two LC's not wanting others to displace their members. Been there
before in 1979 my seniority went from Walbridge to Columbus Ohio
problem was no reverse lodging. I stood for work in Columbus but had to
pay my own way. When I talked to my LC in Walbridge he blamed the one in
Columbus for no reverse lodging when asked the question to the one in
Columbus he blamed the one in Walbridge. Didn't matter within 3 weeks
I was furloughed again.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 18 January 2011

For the new hires.. Robofuq has most likely only been able to hold an
extraboard for the last five years while having to work out of
terminals that are anywhere from 75 to 250 miles from home with no
reverse lodging and a two hour call..... also he/she is looking at
being able to hold these same pools which are most likely glorified
extra boards with no schedule whatsoever.  Then robofuq can look
forward to getting his liscense and go to the bottom of the engineer's
roster and work the extraboard for at least another ten years....before
you know it he can hold a job with a 6 hour window...at 50.  Before you
join up--think about what you want out of life

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 18 January 2011

Hey Robofuq:

It's good to have you back...you set a good example for the new hires,
I hope they remember it come furlough time. It's remarkable you didn't
lose any time.

Where there's a will...there's a way!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 18 January 2011

RRJ is correct about one thing, everyone wants to complain & bitch in
the crew rooms & shantys, yet they won't take the time to show up to a
union meeting and let it all out.  That is what your meetings are there
for, so stop the complaining in all the wrong places!

Name: Robofuq
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 18 January 2011

Nomo; I was just outside the bubble when FNT shut down.  Worked out of 2
other yards until spring 2010, when FNT got the short pool back from
Dewitt.  Now, everyone that was furloughed is called back, and 25ish
new hires,  I'm almost back to where I was before seniority wise. 
Funny, though, the Div manager said at the last town hall meeting
before D-Day, "We will do everything we can to assist those displaced
by this".  Yeah, everything except reverse lodging, or paid qualifying
time!  It wasn't easy, but I didn't lose any months towards
retirement.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 18 January 2011

That's the nature of the beast. Everyone bitches in crew rooms and yard
shantys. It's not the same as complaining about time away from the
family that is just the nature of the business. If one has regrets
it's time to quit and move on because it isn't going to change. It's
a railroad they move freight. I know a lot of newbies  went straight
into the yard working extraboards and remote jobs never working the
road. A few years later their forced in to engine service life changes
drastically the road becomes a reality. The irony is they already knew
it was going to happen. Some didn't like it they quit. I know few that
got terminated for not working enough missing calls ect.... as an
engineer trainee. Then it's everybody elses fault but their own.

Name: KYLE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 17 January 2011

Ya know there is not a railroader out there that does not bitch about
things at times, Its the nature of the job, I worked at paper mill
before i hired on the rr, lasted only 3 weeks on that job, min wage
too, ha ha in that mill you did not even have time to bitch, every 20
min a boss would come to take a readout of your machine, and a 10 min
coffee break ment just that,10-MIN, The place sucked, The only good
thing is it was a 8 to 4 daylight job with sat & sun off, So those
types of jobs are out there if you want the good hours, low pay,sat&
sun off & if your machine broke down, na,na no sitting to wait until it
got fixed, They gave you a broom to sweep until it got fixed, Hell on
the rr i have even worked yard jobs were i sat all day and got a eq
too, In fact i find rr work very boring at times but i sure am not
going to trade it for anything else.

Name: BOB
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 17 January 2011

Hey Buddy's,

My Grip here is Us men need to stand up as we all say but i have a
great idea! I know everyone has heard them all but bear with me. There
are states that have laws that there has to be 2 set's of eyes on an
engine and i think we should fight in every state for it. We only have
2 guys left and they want it to be none on s train so lets ban together
and get the laws passed ! dont wimp out on this it can be done and has
so dont bullshit me on this .It is just everyone getting off there ass
and doing something ! Law is Law they cant break it and we can take
advantage !

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 January 2011

Hey Robofuq:

Where did you finally end up after Frontier closed?

Name: robofuq
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 17 January 2011

Scraping dimes?  I prefer hundreds, and by the handfull!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 17 January 2011

Livin it up

Yep. That's the railroad I miss your scenario sounds like AACA. Back
before computers took over things ran smoother every thing back then
was run locally. Today the TM waits for the GM or JAX to tell them what
to do the YM waits for the TM then it changes 3-4 times ect...my last
two years were in the yard we would make 12 hours everyday at times
never leaving the shack. You had to love the road you hit the nail on
the head with that one. Hurry up get your paper work then sit 3-4 hours
for a signal. On paper after trip rates were established every train got
out within that 75 minute deadline. I quit giving YM's a leaving time
voluntarily if they asked I'd ask them what time it was because it
didn't matter. 

Cond 1-10 chimes in crying people are working for peanuts missing out
on family life. First off anyone is free to quit if it's so bad.
Secondly for not having a college degree we make more money than most
people with one. A slacker on the railroad can make an easy $50,000 put
a little effort $75,000 be a go getter $100,000+. I don't call that
peanuts. If it's detrimental to your family life quit you won't be
the first or the last. Divorce rate is high on the railroad as it is in
other occupations like truck drivers, police officers, business execs,
doctors ect...jobs where it requires long stays away from the family.
Look at CSX CEO Mikey Ward had to give up over $40 mil in a divorce
that's one reason he's selling stock the other is because he can it
is given as part of his compensation package and CSX along with the
other railroads are doing pretty good.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 16 January 2011

Hey livin it up! if you wanna spend your life be a fuckin tool scraping
dimes from a billion dollar company that will piss down your throat
while your away from your family and ask for seconds then you found the
right job...............good luck buddy...ps..you could do
better................

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 16 January 2011

Hey Live it up:

Sounds like Gentilly in the good old days!

Name: living it up
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 16 January 2011

RRJ,  

Ignore him.  Best money I ever made was with csx. Sat in building for
over 9 hours waiting for my train to come in. Detectors malfunctioning,
yard plugged, short crews and all the good stuff that comes with this
rr.... Sat and drank coffee and read the paper.... Sent me home with
round trip pay. I know people who would kill to have a job where you
sit on your ars and do nothing and get paid for it..... Got to love the
way they run!!!! If I get lucky I will get 5 more day of it!

By the way, your work stress when you were younger was different than
ours today.... 
Work stress today consist of the almighty paperpusher in Jacksonville
calling the TM every 10 minutes wanting to know why train such and such
hasnt left the yard yet...Jacksonville gives the tm 1 1/2 hours to get
train out of yard after crews on duty. Then TM constantly yelling at
crew wanting to know whats going on.  You call engine house and find
out power isnt ready on time, then there's a blue flag on you track,
you have to double up your train which of course is built in 2 tracks
in 2 different sides of the yard(couldnt figure out how to set them
next to each other)cant find a stupid brake stick and truck man cant
come and do your airtest for another ten minutes and then when your
finally ready to go you sit at the outbound signal for 30 minutes
waiting for the hot shots to get in and now you've been on duty for 3
hours and havent left... OOPPSS forgot, couldnt get a decent work order
and after 3 new reissues you are now already on duty for on hour!

Man I hope my next train breaks down at least 50 miles away and dogs! 
I really need that easy money..

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 15 January 2011

That's Mr Retired Fuck Bucket to you junior. lol. Show some respect.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 15 January 2011

RRJ--at least your honest..your dumb but honest.  Good words--spoken
like the true fuck bucket you are... haha

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 15 January 2011

You're a moron. The more you post the more you look ridiculous. What
legacy? I don't think any of my generation ever asserted such
nonsense. All I know is we had it better than your generation will ever
have it. That's fine with me it was some great times. At least back
then men knew when to quit a job they didn't like. Unlike what's
going on today. Boo Hoo!!!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 15 January 2011

hhaha you couldn't strike a nerve if you were a surgeon with a
chainsaw..lol.  You make me laugh though RRJ.....Can you tell me more
about the legacy you have left behind for your fellow union brothers?

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 15 January 2011

Mad? I think not. This site today is nothing more than amusement. Your
inflated self worth is humorous. Did I strike a nerve with the truth? I
feel sorry for your generation. That's obvious from all the crying that
is done on this site because people can't handle workplace stress.
Which happens in every corporation & business wether large or small. It
doesn't affect me anymore. It's nice being on the outside looking in.
Why do I still post? Because I can. I'm even nice enough to send the
website a few bucks every now and then. Have you? I think not.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 15 January 2011

Yikes! HAHAHA RRJ got mad. HAHAHA whoops.  Sorry RRJ I know the phone is
ringing off the hook........................(in your mind)

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 14 January 2011

Boy, it's because they have respect. I can pretty much bet you still
live at home with mommy. You don't pay rent, utilities ect...because
your still a child. Not that she wouldn't want you to pay it's just
over the years the poor woman has had to deal with your tantrums which
she always tries to avoid. Your a pathetic ingrate. That's obvious
with your attitude on here why would your mothers house (meaning not
yours) be any different.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 14 January 2011

So what s the deal on the Great Lakes..just consolidating dispatchers??
just like consolidating trains?? what else is new

PS RRJ no one calls you...haha why would they!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 13 January 2011

Why is it I get calls from quite a few railroaders most with 30 years
left working that are prospering. They are intelligent enough to follow
the rules set by CSX even though they might not agree but know CSX signs
that paycheck every two weeks. They make the best out of the situation.
It's ridiculous for some to post hoping CSX as a corporation will fail
that's like admitting "You're stupid and longing to be out of a
job". You must realise you need CSX more then they need you. There are
thousands waiting to get hired on. Do your job check the work then
recheck it quit trying to speed things up most rule violations are
sheer stupidity. The unions have to do better the past 8 years they've
allowed CSX to violate just about every agreement they've opted to not
defend people an encourage waivers ect...that is unexceptable. Who's
fault is it? Very few actually attend meetings no excuse everyone could
go to at least 4-6 a year. Go to that union meeting voice your concerns
there is the silent majority that feel their owed an entitled it
doesn't work that way.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 12 January 2011

TO:   Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 12 January 2011

HERE WE ARE AGAIN!

JANUARY, 2011 .......AND CSX STILL SUCKS!!!!!
as fucking always
NOTHING EVER CHANGES IN THIS CHEAP ASS OUTFIT.
Cheap Scape eXpress doing business as the Cock Sucker eXpress
MONEY BEING DENIED,  SCREWED UP ATTENDANCE POLICY, HARASSMENT,
DISCRIMINATION, LOW MORALE, PISS POOR MANAGEMENT.

NAZI STYLE LEADERSHIP & ENFORCEMENTS BECAUSE THEY STILL DON'T KNOW
HOW
TO RUN A COMPANY.   Bunch of Dick Lickers collecting a Big paycheck and
fucking T&E for anything and everything.

MOST FORTUNE 500 COMPANIES ALWAYS STATE "OUR EMPLOYEES ARE OUR
GREATEST ASSES"    Wait for a takeover after a big disaster

CSXT COULD NEVER STATE SUCH A LIE!

Name: sctrain
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 12 January 2011

Info on florence sc is it as bad as they say it is down there heard its
bad place to work

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 12 January 2011

HERE WE ARE AGAIN!

JANUARY, 2011 .......AND CSX STILL SUCKS!!!!!

NOTHING EVER CHANGES IN THIS CHEAP ASS OUTFIT.

MONEY BEING DENIED,  SCREWED UP ATTENDANCE POLICY, HARASSMENT,
DISCRIMINATION, LOW MORALE, PISS POOR MANAGEMENT.

NAZI STYLE LEADERSHIP & ENFORCEMENTS BECAUSE THEY STILL DON'T KNOW HOW
TO RUN A COMPANY.

MOST FORTUNE 500 COMPANIES ALWAYS STATE "OUR EMPLOYEES ARE OUR
GREATEST ASSET"

CSXT COULD NEVER STATE SUCH A LIE!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 12 January 2011

PTC Helper: This position is governed by a collective bargaining
agreement, membership is required.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 12 January 2011

Does anybody know if they are going to hire anybody in florence s.c off
of the hire pool they have up. Do they even know if they need any extra
hands they without gettin layoff.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 12 January 2011

Does anybody know if they are going to hire anybody in florence s.c off
of the hire pool they have up. Do they even know if they need any extra
hands they without gettin layoff.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 10-20 years
Posted: 12 January 2011

A ptc helper is a non-union job

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 12 January 2011

Go to Railroad.net in the employment section you'll find the answers.
The ones you'll get here most likely won't be the ones you need.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 11 January 2011

Hi, I just got hired by CSX as a PTC helper…can anyone tell me what I
should expect once I start? How many people are in a typical work crew?
What’s REDI Center like?  Describe how the union works…just the
highlights, I don’t need the manual, how much are the union dues? 
I understand that most of the people on this site are not big fans of
CSX so please, serious replies only.  I’ve been searching for a job for
over a year now and I’ve finally landed one so I’d appreciate any
helpful information. Thanks.

Name: Angela 
E-mail: angie.marek@dowjones.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 11 January 2011

Hey everyone, 
    I'm a business reporter working on a story for a national business
magazine that looks at CSX's retirement 401(k) plan for workers, which
has actually had big investment returns in recent years. I'm hoping to
talk with a couple rank and file employees who can tell me a bit about
their experience with the plan and whether it helped them make progress
saving for retirement in recent years. If anyone is able to chat with me
and share your story, I'd love to hear from you.  E-mail me here
(angie.marek@dowjones.com) and we can find a time to connect. 
    Thanks so much, 
    Angie

Name: binheer2long
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 January 2011

Hey, Pines--
Not that I really cared, but good to see you are still on the green
side of the grass!!

Name: slack action
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 08 January 2011

I think another reason that Mr Ward is selling off his stock is because
of his recent divorce.  His x-wife is getting all of his money, not bad
for an old gal who used to be a clerk...

CSX stock is up 1.85, Ward should have waited a little bit longer.  It
looks like it cost him about $500,000, just pocket change to him..

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 January 2011

Why would CSX sell two office building that they occupy, so they can now
make lease payments on? I wonder which CSX officers or directors
have a interest in Susquehanna Holdings LTD?

The answer of...to raise capital, won't get it. $24.8 million is 
chump change to a company the size of CSX, This is an arms length
deal if I ever saw one...the question is whose arm is it?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 20-30 years
Posted: 08 January 2011

CSX Sells Two Southpoint office buildings sell for $25M

Note: Wideman said he plans to keep the company there.

http://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/news/2011/01/07/two-southpoint-office-buildings-sell.html

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 07 January 2011

Damn, Mr Pines. It's been quite a while. Hope life is treating you
good.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 07 January 2011

Hey Robert:

It's nice to hear from you...we were beginning to get worried.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 06 January 2011

http://www.bnsf.com/media/casefacts/

CSX have a site like BNSF. Boy oh boy --- Like 30,000 counts of fraud
BNSF has.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 06 January 2011

Ward is just exercising his stock options...read the proxy statement
for further info.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 06 January 2011

FWIW;  A recent post stated Michael Ward sold 100,000 shares of CSX
stock.  A little digging revealed that, since October 13, 2010,  Ward
has sold CSX shares 4 times,  a total of 283,000 shares(more than half
his holdings),  for around $17 million.

Name: ihatecsx
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Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for N/A
Posted: 06 January 2011

You just sound like a fucking rat to me.  Hopefully you don't actually
work for any railroad or you'll get your ass kicked for sayin somethin
like that.

Name: 
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 05 January 2011

i hope the fra reads this.....
most of the engineers and conductors(80%or more) talk on their cell
phones while running the train.  they are also goin on internet sites
on their phones as well during train operations.
and the trainmasters call the conductors and or engineers and talk when
they know the train is moving  

i see conductors kick locomotives on a regular basis

nobody ever does a correct air brake test either.  its a joke

itll be funny when a key train derails because of these issues on csx
trains

Name: NoMo
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 05 January 2011

Safety first...if the Chief Great Lakes Disp. is in fact gone
that presents a safety issue for the crews running the division.
That is enough reason to strike!

Name: 
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Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 05 January 2011

Re: GL division manager fired. It was posted recently on "Yardlimits"

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 05 January 2011

What forum did you read that on conductor?

Name: ACD
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Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 20-30 years
Posted: 05 January 2011

I don't visit this board often.  But the GL GM is in trouble.  

Begining on the 9th the Indianapolis chief will gone.  
The work will be handed over to the East chief. (who will now be doing
the work of 4 chief dispatchers)

Everybody in the office is PISSED

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 05 January 2011

Read on another rail forum Great Lakes Division Manager fired.  Is this
the start of a meltdown Dispatcher 10-20 was talking about?

Name: T
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Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 05 January 2011

The public for the most part doesn't know and more importantly doesn't
CARE about the average railroader's woes. To the public we are very
well paid. Overpaid even. Any strike would be viewed as greed. We would
be viewed as crybabies. Especially with the current job market.People
who haven't experienced this type of adversarial employer/employee
relationship cannot possibly understand. If you can't strike legally
in most cases the where are the unions teeth? What are we paying unions
for? To be middle men? Maybe we should strike with our wallets and stop
paying dues.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 20-30 years
Posted: 05 January 2011

Chairman, President and CEO of CSX Corp. (CSX) Michael J Ward sells
100,000 shares of CSX on 01/03/2011 at an average price of $65.55 a
share.

Name: Lloyd
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Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years
Posted: 05 January 2011

Where have you been for the last two years loco 10-20 or have you read
some of my posts before?  I've been preachin those same words for a
long time now and feel like its about time we do something myself.  The
problem we have is there aren't enough men who care or have a backbone
to do it.  The people in the highest positions in the unions wont budge
out of fear of being arrested for the call of a strike.  It will take
each and every one of us willing to make a sacrifice if we go on strike
and a lot aren't going to do that.  I agree whole heartedly on
everything you just said and I'm sure that I have said the same things
before.  The shit has gotten out of hand out here and it is time we form
a movement and take action instead of just bitching and whining on here
and to our co-workers.  I've tried to set dates for sick-outs but that
has yet to work.  One of the first things people could do is stop taking
calls on other lines of road, taking calls as engineer when they are
conductors, and working by rules 100 percent of the time but people are
so damn selfish out here its hard.  I'm on board whenever someone is
ready to sail the ship my friend.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 05 January 2011

i think its high we start organizing a strike against the unions and
csx.

arent you tired of being treated like shit and the unions just letting
csx have their way? marking off policies that havent changed in many
many years now changed a couple time in a few months to cover their ass
for lack of crews.

stealing money from your paychecks almost daily, categorically
declining legitimate claims without consideration. setting you up for
failure with e-tests with penalties harsher than if an incident
actually happened. etc, etc

we are the ones who make the money and run the trains but are treated
like the lowest life form while everybody above us reaps high bonuses.

we are blamed because they cannot run trains. telling the public, the
stockholders (which most of us are), the news outlets that they are
hiring and furloughed people are all recalled. we have many many people
on furlough that were never called. the hiring is more management, not
train crews. management cannot run trains.

oh? a strike doesn't do any good because the gov't will force us back
to work?

with all the national attention it WILL send a message to csx and the
country.

Name: NoMo
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 05 January 2011

Look out Huntington Div. After the ass whipping VT took last night
Frulla will be extra grumpy!!!

Name: RRJ
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 04 January 2011

kyle

Who know's what these puds from CSX HR told these newbies during
recruiting sessions. I remember when CSX bought the RF&P Railroad a lot
of guys with 20-25 years got furloughed during the transition period of
their seniority being incorporated into the B&O Eastern consolidated
roster. They told me they went to a hiring session for the NS. They
stated the NS HR rep started out yelling "If anyone does drugs and
doesn't want to quit leave now" 50% walked out the door next was "If
you want a home life forget it you'll be on call 24/7 at our demand"
another 50% of those remaining left by the time he got around to #3 &
#4 they got up an left. In a few weeks they got back to work for CSX.
Apparent CSX HR reps must sugar coat it at hiring sessions with visions
of grandeur of making big pay checks ect...it still doesn't matter 8
out of 10 hired will quit the railroad within 6 months. That is a fact
it's always been that way.

Name: kyle
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Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 04 January 2011

I do see a lot of these newbees bitching about the rr hours and i am
sure they were told all about this when they hired on and still they
took the job, If they want it worse then get a job driving truck, pays
good too just like the rr, not 3 days away from home try like 2 or 3
weeks driving interstate, I did work some piss ant jobs in highschool
and they all sucked,low pay no bennys no nothing and they kept you busy
the entire time, The rr is the only place i found were you can sit on
yer butt for 12 hrs and get payed for it, See if you can do that in any
other company??? Not! The rr does suck today but i would not trade the
job off for any type of factory job, If you all want a 9-5 job with sat
& sun off then get a job as a bank teller or the post office, The rr
never was and never will be a 9-5 job, Its the nature of the beast per
say, Or hey the other good paying job working on one of those
transcontintal ships, at sea for months at a time, If you plan on
having a family and being with them all the time then the rr is not for
you, Looks so easy when you see a train going past a rr crossing only
you don,t know the hrs they put in and you found that out and you don,t
like it, the rr always was and will be feast or famin.

Name: NoMo
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 04 January 2011

Hokies...must be Frulla!

Name: Fawghorn leghorn
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Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 04 January 2011

God, I love fat woman!! Happy new year everyone from the Orange Bowl!! 
I had a woman down here in Florida so big on New Years Eve, you could
have stamped Happy New Year on her ass and flew her all over Miami
Beach!!!!;0)  All the more reason to stay away from drugs and alcohol
boys!!  Keep it on the rails and good luck in that shithole
industry!!LLLMMAAOOOO  LET'S GO HOKIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  LET'S GO
HOKIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  LET'S GO HOKIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 They are going to whip Stanfords arse!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 02 January 2011

don't expect to get paid for your rsia mandatory off time if you're on
any extra list/board. it will be taken away from your guarantee

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 02 January 2011

Wow. A whole month marked up and it's not your dream job?   My advice
would be to get FMLA, and mark off every weekend, or when you line up
with a shit train.   You will fit right in with a lot of the newer
hires.  And put more money in my pocket.

Name: RRJ
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 02 January 2011

no choice

Why do you think my generation had it easier? We stayed marked up on
non-gaurenteed extra boards hoping to get a few days in a half. On
paydays we would line up to get our check from the Paymaster then move
over to the right to file for unemployment if we didn't get at least a
10 day half. Back then the railroad would overload the extra boards it
was "feast or famine". Eventually people would end up getting
furloughed. That was/is part of paying ones dues till they get
seniority. You can't say we had it better. The struggling years some
had it worse than others. I know people in the '80s that got
furloughed for several years before getting called back. Some have 35+
years on the railroad and lack the 360 months for railroad retirement.
As for lousy working hours no home life ect...what's wrong with you
it's a railroad. What the heck did you think it was going to be like?
That hasn't changed one iota. That one puzzles me the most.

Name: no choice
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 01 January 2011

Llyod

Thanks for the responce, you hit the nail on the head of what I was
saying. 

RRJ

F U and your a great guy

1. I just marked up from being a trainee a month ago; so no Im not a
person thats been around for long and YES I DO WANT ALL OTHER TRAINEES
TO QUIT IF THEY DON'T LOVE THIS STUFF (which 90% dont). 
2. I don't want the oldheads to die off; thats what was "promised
us" and if you would get off your high horse and read what was wrote
you would have relized that
3. When you started you had a future for a good company and great
people to work with. Don't give me this crap about starting from the
bottom like it was the same with you. and yes I do know what it was
like back then. We're surrounded by management who tells us they will
fire us at every turn, work with people who hate; and I mean hate the
company they work for; for crappy pay the "first few years" and
forced to work a horiable schedule which should be illegal. I would
have loved to work the old extra boards; yea you didn't work for
peirods of time but atleast you could mark off. Now if they don't have
work they just lay you off, same thing except now your their slave when
there is work and can't mark off. So F U and don't act like its the
same "starting out" and "putting in our time" like you and all
other had to do. And CSX is working hard and spending lots of money to
do away with our jobs so we're not even sure how brite a future we
have. So F U you old goat and thank you for you service; i do have
great respect for the old heads and want them to work as long as they
want to; they have earned it. 
4. As I have found out; everybody out here loves what they are doing
they just hate the company they work for. As I said its a job for life
with great money; it just cost you your life and soul. I'm not willing
to pay that because I love my family and won't pay that price for them.

Name: kyle
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Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 01 January 2011

Yup seen all that done, for the deadman peddle, a brake shoe or that big
air hose wrench worked good too,, or the plug on the bottom of a fusee
worked good on the independent too, but most would just use the flag
stick, easy to kick out if a rfe or tm boarded the ship, did it all the
time when i hired esp on yard shifters, Hell i even learned how to
cheery pick electric locked switches with a coin, Ie the old shunt deal
and it still works today when needed, Hell i even remember hoggers using
the feed valve for braking when going down the horseshoe curve which was
a big NO NO rule violation, What i dd find out about all this stuff is
the company really did not care that much about it, well not untill a
derailment occured then the shit hit the fan per say with said persons
dancing on the carpet in fast order,The rr is like going to school ya
learn something new every day and you find out what works and what does
not work, Thats what i liked about on the job training as these are
things you will never learn in conductor or engine man school, fuck
today they want to fire yer ass for just running a yard switch and i
have run some of them too, I don,t think there is any trainman alive
who did not ever run a switch.... ahhh 4 weeks vac and enjoying it too.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 01 January 2011

Goob

I remember using the plugs it was to keep from having to continuoisly
bail off the brakes when streach braking. Never saw anyone tie it to
their belt that was pretty clever that way you wouldn't forget to
remove it.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 01 January 2011

kyle

I know it happens. The deadman pedal was a pain in the arse. They still
used them on yard engines and road switchers. I use to put my grip on
top of it instead of using the flag handle. The flag handle was to easy
to forget about removing when getting off.

Name: kyle
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Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 01 January 2011

To locomotive engineer, we all know that tampering with any devise on rr
property is a rule violation plus a fra violation, but people still do
it just hoping they do not get caught & its only a few that do get
caught, just ask ricky gates, Not only was he smoking the funny stuff
he disabled the cab signal alerter too.

Name: luv the gifts
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 31 December 2010

I hope csx keeps getting safety award for the f-ck-ups they have
constantly. I have gifts from their employees that thow the stuff away.
Heck coats, jackets, shirts, watches, t-shirts, and even jockey bags.
Keep up the good work guys so I can get the free shirt that is thrown
our the door. I don't even work for the sorry bastards, ain't that
great.
BE SAFE SUCKERS!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 31 December 2010

We ran with a Brake shoe on the pedal and a wooden plug with a string
tied to the belt. Some simply kept the brake plug is their pocket.
Worked many hours standing at the cooler talking, as she pulled her
heart out. NOT ONE PERSON WAS HURT.

Guess we had it EASY.

Name: onetwo
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 31 December 2010

thank you Lloyd

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 31 December 2010

Kyle

Out of Richmond north it's called Train Traffic Control (TTC) same as
PTC. The locomotive engineer when taking control of a locomotive must
test it and certify it is working in writting. Tampering it is a
federal offense. Any protective device that is tampered with from the
alerter to the old deadman pedal is a federal offense. Then CSX will
terminate the individual.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 31 December 2010

Lloyd

You read wrong. The person was making suggestions to someone who was in
training to quit. I only suggested that they take their own advise.
I've always been in agreement that CSX management is nothing more than
a bunch of moronic tyrants everyone of them from the ivory tower to the
fields. When someone makes suggestions that oldheads should retire or
die that irks my blood. Who are they to question another employee?
Sure, I'll tell them their acting like spoiled little children that
this generation hasn't any patience. Not all of them but I've seen my
fair share when I was working to know it's a good percentage. Everyone
starts at the bottom of the seniority roster. It is what it is. What
does being a veteran have to do with anything? That issue was never
brought up. I'm glad CSX is hiring veterans they should be on the top
of the list. That's how I got my job on the C&O in 1977. What you
think is critisism I call educating them to reality on how to make it
on the railroad in these difficult circumstances. You might want to hug
them I'd much rather give them a swift kick in the arse to face
reality. All in all it's the same just different methods.

Name: KYLE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 31 December 2010

PTC is nothing new the fromer NYC rr had it only they called it
atc,automatic train control, the train had to come to a stop to re-set
the devise, guess it became more of a problem than a savior as i think
they did away with it many years ago, probably when they merged with
the prr, But no matter what new safety device is installed there will
be a way to disable it, just like some have done with the cab signal
system,No man made thing is fail safe.....

Name: Lloyd
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Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years
Posted: 30 December 2010

Hey employed in other...

What exactly is your point?  I could be wrong but in my opinion this
site was built for people to complain and shed light about things that
aren't going right with this company.  I can look past someones bad
"grammar" if I can at least make out what they are trying to say.  I
will say that complaining on here may not do any of us any good but if
it at least prevents one person from going to work with a loaded
weapon, I'm all for it.  I understand there are some real idiots who
post here but I commend anyone who will post their feelings on here
about a company who treats their employees like total trash.  

RRJ, I read one of your posts the other day and thought you were
finally turning the corner but then you went ahead and bashed someone
who complained about the railroad again like they had no business
complaining on CSX-Sucks.com.  I just don't get your mindset
sometimes.  Your take on this new generation is one of one size fits
all like everyone has been spoon fed or were on mom's tit or
something.  People who work for this sorry ass company come from all
walks of life and a good majority are veterans so before you bash these
guys you should think twice.  And although I'm sure there are plenty of
morons who are lined up to take this job, that doesn't take away the
fact that this company is immoral, treats people like trash, and only
cares about profit and a ridiculous safety award.  

The truth is posting on here might resemble beating a dead horse but it
is nice to have an outlet.  I give the webmaster a lot of credit.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 30 December 2010

CSXT

aka

donald trump railroad

YOU'RE FIRED !!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 30 December 2010

I thought Ingram retired?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for N/A
Posted: 30 December 2010

CSX PROBABLY PUT THIS SITE UP THEMSELVES, SO AS TO LET THE INTELLECTUALS
WHO POST HERE VENT OR JUST SOCIALIZE WITH ONE ANOTHER. THEY MUST GET
QUITE A LAUGH AT THE RUN ON SENTENCES AND THE ATROCIOUS GRAMMER, LET
ALONE THE MISSPELLED WORDS. YOU CAN COMPLAIN ABOUT CSX FROM NOW TILL
DOOMS DAY AND REST ASSURED, NOTHING WILL CHANGE. IF ANYTHING, IT WILL
GET MUCH WORSE FOR THE EMPLOYEES. THEY ARE YOUR SLAVE MASTERS. YOU HAVE
PROSTITUTED YOURSELVES FOR THEIR SUB-STANDARD WAGES AND PLANTATION LIKE
WORKING CONDITIONS. YOU ARE A POWERLESS, IGNORANT, BRAINWASHED CLASS OF
SOCIETY ALLOWED TO EXIST FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE OF SERVING THE GOVERNMENT
AND BIG BUSINESS. SO DON'T GET ANY IDEAS ABOUT IMPROVING YOUR
CIRCUMSTANCES. BE CONTENT TO WATCH YOUR FOOTBALL GAMES AND DRINK YOUR
BEER AND WATCH YOUR STANDARD OF LIVING DESTROYED. KEEP BUYING JAPANESE
CARS AND  CHINESE COMMUNIST MANUFACTURED GOODS. LET YOUR CHILDREN ACT
AND DRESS LIKE INNER CITY CRIMINALS OR YOU CAN SEE THEM SENT OFF TO
SOME UNDECLARED WAR TO BE KILLED OR DISABLED. I COULD GO ON BUT I KNOW
MOST, IF NOT ALL OF YOU, WILL NOT BE ABLE TO COMPREHEND ANY OF WHAT I
HAVE WRITTEN TODAY.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 29 December 2010

Probably one of those stick people!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 29 December 2010

I guess we will have to wait because the train dispatcher is afraid to
tell us what lies ahead ...haha typical dispatcher

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 10-20 years
Posted: 29 December 2010

it has nothing to do with PTC

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 29 December 2010

PTC? That's a federal mandate that was included in the 2008 FRA Safety
Regulations. It's not something Cindy Sanborn would be credited for
doing. PTC doesn't have to be implemented till 2015 to my knowledge in
areas without PTC they haven't begun to install it. Railroads still
have 4 years their not going to rush into it. PTC and TTC has been used
for years especially in the northeast corridor. It seems people have a
misconception of the function of PTC. All it does if an engineer
disregards a restrictive signal like an approach it will apply a
penalty application of the train brakes. PTC does not run the train it
does not replace the locomotive engineer. I can't say it won't be
used to get rid of the road conductor. I'm sure the railroads will use
it as an arguement for that purpose.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 29 December 2010

Hey Kyle:

Nothing has changed since I left...can't remember how many times
I got called only to wait for 5 hours plus for my train to arrive
or be made up. Piss poor management from the local TMs...they would
rather have you sit around the yard than be on detention at the hotel.
The re-crews don't even enter into the equation. Shit rolls down
hill...three days later, they're the same ones crying about
there not being any crews rested.

PTC in the Great Lakes? Maybe...but I would think that it would be
rolled out in the spring after the thaw or in the Jacksonville or
Atlanta Divisions where the Winters are much milder. Like any thing
else new (think RCO) there will be all kinds of operational glitches.
Freezing temperatures and copious amounts of snow make field repairs
hard>

Name: KYLE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 29 December 2010

To me the rr is akin to the military,hurry up and wait i had many calls
in the wee am RAW call bust yer ass to get to the yard then wait for 4
hrs power not ready, relay train is still 80 miles away, yes it
happenes, IE poor managment in my book, who ever heard of a job were
you get payed to sit on yer butt for hrs at a time, yea only the rr I
tell this stuff to my civilan non railroads friends and they think i am
lieing as most of them say no company would do that, in fact most of
them get pissed at me when i tell them these things. ha ha jelousey i
guess.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 29 December 2010

Great Lakes = Positive Train Control

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 29 December 2010

It sounds like nothing has changed except those in charge. CSX is famous
for making change at any cost they'll spend multi-millions to make it
work. I've seen it happen to many times during my carreer. The
employees are never part of the equation. There's been a lot of rumors
about the Great Lakes region the past few years  selling/leasing it off
to shortlines to someone mentioned N.Baltimore site for rerouting
business. CSX hasn't been hiring in Michigan like they have in other
areas like Ohio, Indiana, and Pennsylvania. No news on the CSX Gateway.
Seeing it's a train dispatcher who posted that would lead someone to
suspect rerouting business creating a cluster f@#k on some lines.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 10-20 years
Posted: 28 December 2010

...Its worse


I can not say...

but, I will say this...


Ms. Sanborn, I hope you have made ward, stock holders, board members
happy.

The money you have tried to save will multiply x10000 in expenditures.

We just wish we had someone stand up to you and the board members to
show them how this will play out.


You mam, have FUCK UP!
...good day

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 10-20 years
Posted: 28 December 2010

Re:
Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 28 December 2010

No....

But, they will be.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 December 2010

wUnce agiN, i fEEl it necissery too RemminD awl uv yoU to pleeze, LERN
TOO SPEL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 28 December 2010

Great Lakes! What is happening? are they shutting it down so they can
run double stack trains through pennsylvania on the new gateway to
north baltimore? wouldnt surprise me...

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 December 2010

Cond 1-10

Railroading is mindless-numbing-boring? I disagree. Running the rails
was fun everyday was different never the same twice. Every sunrise &
sunset natures splender with every season ect...I guess your generation
spent their entire youth in front of a computer, Xbox ect...you have no
appreciation for the better things in life. Or, is it you want to work
yard jobs your entire carreer? Which I would consider boring not
mindless one bad move creates a lot of unhappiness. The problem with
new hires today they want it all now. Why not! Their entire lives have
revolved around having things now. No need to pick up a book just look
it up on a computer now you can do it on a cell phone. Have you ever
read an entire book? Have you ever looked up anything in a dictionary?
In the real world it isn't that simple. No one starts at the top
unless you form your own business. Look up the word "patience". That
would be a start.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 28 December 2010

Hey Kyle:

I think he must be cubbing.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 10-20 years
Posted: 28 December 2010

Reply to: WHATSUP

3 words.   Great Lakes Division

Watch that place over the next week!
Then watch it over the next 3-4 weeks.

speaking hypothetically that place will..

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Name: kyle
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Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 28 December 2010

I don,t get what the poster said about no OT pay, all i know if its a
less than 100 mile run on a class 1 rr you get ot after 8 hrs on duty,
if the mialage is over that its pays by miles run as a 300 miles 1 way
pays 300 miles, no ot, all yard jobs pay ot over 8 hrs on duty, dead
head pays no ot,, it seems to me the guy bitching about this must work
for a short line non union scab rr as i do know they do not pay ot, if
you put in over 8 hrs on a scab rr you get only straight time, those
short lines have only a basic days pay no matter how many hrs you put
in, guess that guy hired on the wrong rr, But hey they are nice guys
and will tell you be glad you have a job, I know many peeps who work
for short lines & they are very jelous of the guys who work for the
class 1 rr,s, in fact they hate them cuz they are not getting what we
are getting money wise.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 28 December 2010

No choice....You are right! and I couldnt have said it better myself. 
There is no future for you at CSX.  You have to really like the work to
stay at this job..bottom line. (BTW_The work is mindless, unrewarding
boring bullshit)  Otherwise, you are better off quitting and getting
another job or going back to school. You will never ever get to work a
decent schedule.  You will never have peers or managers that care about
mentoring you.  You will never have a union that will fight for you. 
You will never have weekends off. You will never get paid sick time.
You will never get a vacation when you want it...You will get laid off.
CSX DOES NOT CARE ABOUT YOU! We only get one shot at life and working
for these fools is a good way to waste it! There are lots of hopeless
fools lined to take this job.  Some will will stay...Most will leave. 
It is a revolving door and CSX plays the numbers by over hiring. Do
yourself a favor and figure out a new path.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 December 2010

no choice

Wrong. Once you stand for regular work you could make $100,000+ a year.
That all depends how motivated a person is a slacker could still make an
easy $60,000 a year. Do yourself a favor quit. Why wait? No one should
stay at a job they don't like. That's the confusing part. You want
cheese with that whine but are to lazy so you'll just go with the
whine. There are hundreds if not thousands waiting to get hired. A
railroad job never has been for everyone. The norm is for every person
who stayed with the railroad 8 people quit. It's always been that way.
Some can handle it some can't. Apparently you can't. Go cry crocodile
tears somewhere else. As for oldheads they'll retire when it's right
for them. One more thing everyone dies not just older people. Never
wish harm on others it'll come back and bite you in the arse.

Name: no choice
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 27 December 2010

Your right we do have it better atleast with the paid training. Until
you start working 12 hrs with 6 starts a week with no over time. But
screw this; CSX doesn't offer anything worth saying in this position
Im abiding my time.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 27 December 2010

At least you didn't have to pay $4500 for school, 6 weeks of
lodging/meals for the grand sum of $148 a day when promoted.  You
don't know how good you got it! LOL

Name: No Choice
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 27 December 2010

Dear CSX

Please be advised that many of you current trainee's are begrudgingly 
keeping their jobs with CSX out of sheer desperation. Be aware that upon
an uptick in the economy and better hiring we will leave in droves.
Below low is a list of reasons why: 

1. RCO Pay @ 80% one day cira $168. $168*5 days * 52 weeks= $43, 680
2. $ 43,680-$1200 union dues, 4 1/2% Tier 2 Retir (43,680*.045) $1965,
$1300 Job Insurance; $2400 Health Benefits, THEN normal taxes of 20%
which means our take home pay is 29,559
3. What do we get for our take home pay of $29,559, Promised to fire us
at every chance/simple mistake; high chance of layoff, extremely crappy
schedule with no time out but "hours of servce" in horrible weather
conditions with a job with no future.  Continued efforts by company to
reduce/cut our jobs as much as possible up to and including one man
crews. Demoralized workforce who hates their jobs. Promises by
trainmasters they are there to help us then told in the same sentence
if we "run a switch" and where fired. Unions that are worth crap. No
chance to take “time off” without getting a certified letter. 
4 All with the hope that "the old heads will die or retire." We then
could be bump up in seniority and only work a semi crappy schedule. The
hope we too could "make lots of money (60,000) just for the price of
our soul and life with family. Opportunity to be trainmasters. 


Sincerely

Falsely Motivated Trainee who’s excited about his future with CSX
CSX

Name: Vambo Rambo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 25 December 2010

Merry Xmas CSX may there be a major de-railment somewhere over the Xmas
holiday a nice tank car explosion would be mighty nice.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 25 December 2010

Hey RRJ:

Stocks? We're talking safety here...the safety of money. Maybe if they
took time to read the proxies, they might gain some knowledge
and have a different perspective on corporate governance!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 25 December 2010

NoMo

I don't blindly vote against BoD recommendations. It's always a must
read when the yearly performance package arrives. Like you stated most
are complicated and the truth is hidden. CSX does have 4 board members
not including Ward that have a combined total of over 100 years of
railroading experience. Voting on the others like the physician in
Richmond ect...is foolish their pretty much puppets. 

I'm sure we'll catch hell for discussing stocks. Mabey if those
complainers would read they would get an understanding of it's
complexity and how it affects them.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 25 December 2010

Hey RRJ:

Yeah, you're right...the positions need to be separated. The Chairman
should be an independent Director...although it won't make a lot of
difference. 

Any Director standing for election can serve on no more one other
Corporate Board. I do not consider university, community or
philanthropic boards in my decision. Even if the nominee is retired,
two BoDs is enough to fill their plate.

I carefully consider proposal offered by the Board...on the surface
they make sense but when you consider the hidden implications, they
are designed to consolidate the Boards power and increase executive
compensation. They tend to make it harder for any change in control,
even if it's in the shareholders' best interest.

With the exception of the election of the independent auditors, I
probably only vote with the Boards recommendation about 1/3 the time.

Most shareholders' proposal deal with corporate governance and are
designed to make it easier to get rid of "problem" directors, reign
in executive compensation and decentralize power. I will vote for those
proposals 100% of the time. 

However, as in the apartheid example in my prior post, even though
it had a great deal of appeal because of the moral issues involved;
I voted against the proposal because it would hurt the company's
bottom line. I do feel the pressure brought on the Boards and
subsequently on the South African Government eventually led to 
a change in the policy!

The shareholder have made major changes in corporate governance over
the last 25 years...there is still a lot of work to be done. All
shareholders need to stop voting the BoDs recommendations and take tome
to read and consider them. If they don't understand them, vote against
them!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 25 December 2010

NoMo

Every year I vote against recommendations of the the BoD. Every year I
hand pick who I think should be on the BoD always voting against Mike
Ward. I personally think it's a conflict of interest to have the
CEO/President of CSX which Ward holds both titles to also be the
chairmen of the BoD. That's to much consolidation of power for one
person. That puts Ward in a postion of no one governing over him.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 25 December 2010

Hey RRJ:

Funny how the Corporations "give" the employees stock. A lot of
strings are attached...vesting, voting etc. Unless a shareholder
casts a ballot, there shares are voted with the BoDs recommendations.

However, a shareholder that owns 50 shares for example can offer a
proposal(s) that have to be included in the Proxy and voted on by the
other shareholders.

Back in the '80, when the Government of South Africa was still
Apartheid, you would see shareholders proposals that the company stop
doing business in the Country that practices Apartheid. The proposal
never passed but each year it was offered it gained more support. It
certainly wasn't responsible for the end of Apartheid,
but it helped bring enough pressure on the Government, it decided
to end the practice.

Certainly a proposal could be crafted which would limited the CEO's
compensation to, say 10x that of the lowest paid CSX employee; or
maybe an "employee bill of rights".

Whether or not the proposals passed is unimportant. What is important
is the issue is brought to the attention of the shareholders, If the 
supporting statement is worded properly, the proposal will garner a
good bit of support...especially from the sophisticated individuals and
institutional investors whom hold a lot of sway.

I many cases the BoDs find it easier to make changes than suffer the
embarrassment of having the proposal offered for the next several
years.
 
Happy holidays...

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srHM2sIll68

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 25 December 2010

Zonk

That's a good idea. I left the railroad 17 months and retired. A
conservative estimate would be that I have $10,000 in claims still
waiting to be handled. It's probably a lot higher. One item repeatedly
claimed over a two year period has over $6000 in outstanding claims.
It's the one the GC of the BLET Westerm Lines stated would be
gaurenteed. I'm still waiting. Mabey one day I'll get that check then
again mabey Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, the Tooth Fairy ect...are
real. lol

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 25 December 2010

NoMo

I did some hypothetical calculations only way employees could have any
impact was if everyone had at least 1000 shares. That is still
questionable it would be less than 10% stock. It would a voice that
would have to be listened to not enough to secure a majority vote. Most
of CSX stock is held by big investment groups. Definitely not employee
friendly. Then again if the retirees threw in their shares that number
would grow. Reality is you can't get two railroaders to agree on
anything. lol

Name: Zonk
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 24 December 2010

The BLE needs to redo their time books they send us. After the Pay
Period page, they need to add another page Titled,
"Amount/Shorted/Denied/Screwed Out Of, This Half". Then in the back,
add a few pages, "Amount Denied/Screwed Out Of and Researched Over 6
Months". Add a blank, then put "Years", so you can fill in the
amount of years it's been in Research

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 24 December 2010

Hey RRJ:

The employees stock isn't enough to do much...except get Ward and the
BoD attention. It might cause them to pause and think about the
employees.

Certainly any one who owns stock can petition the shareholders
with a shareholder's proposal. It will immediately get the BoD
and senior management's undivided attention. It will have to be
included in the Proxy for a vote of all shareholders. The BoD will
recommend a vote against any shareholder proposal but if there are
enough votes in favor of the proposal, the BoD will act; if for no
other reason than self preservation.

If the Unions were doing their job, they would have already done
this...I guess they need to grow another set of nuts before they act!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 24 December 2010

LE 1-10

Who is going to ask for Mike Wards resignation? Not the board of
directors or the stockholders. A while back I brought up a fact that
CSX employees own a lot of CSX stock. Especially those oldhead
conductors who get theirs thru the crew consist most have at least 900
shares or more. What I found out was the stock held in trust for these
conductors doesn't give them the right to vote on the issues before
the stockholder meetings. They don't official own them till they
retire or resign. My point back then was if CSX employees were to
consolidate an use their holding in CSX as one it would be a power
force. The issues you bring up have been bantered about for sometime.
CSX is steadily hiring which is puzzling. CSX cutting of extra boards
over paying out gaurentee is justified because the unions gave up their
rights to having a say to get gaurentees. That was a stupid move.

Name: Santarail
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 23 December 2010

Nomo

You're as full of you know what as a Christmas turkey,

Youre jealous cause I make more money than you do.

you wish you worked for CSX the greatest company in the world.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 23 December 2010

Hey Loco <1:

CSX has had acreage north of Mobile about 50 miles in Canoe, AL for
years. They have had a design for a hump yard. Although Pensacola
has been cut way back, a hump in Canoe would certainly take what's
left in Penscaola, Flomaton and Mobile and possibly Montgomery and 
New Orleans out. 

CSX probably has similar plans for other non-hump yards. Why they 
haven't already started is open to spectulation...if I had to
guess why, I would have to suggest they are waiting for the last of the
protected employees to retire.

CSX wants to be a line haul carrier only which has been quite evident
for the 6 or 7 years. When the decentralized the dispatching several
years ago, they postured themself to possibly sell off entire
Divisions.

There will be another round of consolidations in the Class 1s. It's
hard to say when that might happen...it will certainly be down the road
a few years. The CN and CP already have coast-to-coast systems.
It is reasonable to assume the US carriers will do the same.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years
Posted: 23 December 2010

anyone out there have a problem with hard to throw switches.west
virginia and pa are the areas that always seem to have problems.maybe
cutbacks are to blame.no one to maintain.and are people turning them in
or they afraid about reprocussions from the top brass,who know so much
about switches,yea bunch of college kids that never got their fingers
dirty.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 23 December 2010

Nomo

Your right; the Rail Road as seen a lot of change over the last 10
years and even more to come; so much up in the air. CSX is abandoning
Most urban Locals to regionals and focusing instead on interstate
intermodeals and others. Means if you not in one of the big hump yards
your going to be on the road for the rest of your life. I don't like
the way this is going.

Name: 
E-mail: NoMo
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 23 December 2010

Hey Loco <1:

You can't make sense out of something as senseless as the RR. You'll
drive yourself crazy if you try!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 23 December 2010

Im not saying there is going to be a buyout, Im just saying that the
best thing that comes to mind as to why they're are hiring all the
cubs. I've talk to a few people across diff div's and they all say
they don't know where all these people are going. On my home Div they
just mark up a bunch of new cubs and have a bunch in class that are due
to mark up in april AND they opened another class for the area for even
more; theyr's not even 2 spots on the extraboard and othen then
because so many guys are pulled our of service. Im just trying to make
sence in of it all. CSX know something just trying to figure that part
out.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 23 December 2010

i think its time to call for the resignation of michael ward

apparently he is blind to the fact he is losing untold millions of
dollars because there isn't enough crews to run trains BUT he seems to
think hiring more trainmasters and middle mismanagers(and i use that
term loosely)(lets just call them stupidvisors since they know nothing
about trains.

think of the business that marketing could build if a railroad ran
trains.

think of all the overtime that could be saved in the blue palace if
they didn't have to spend hours and hours searching hundreds of miles
for rested crews.

now where is that quality of life we've been told is out there?

think of the customers who would be happy to do business with csx.

now they're just happy if their cars shows up when they ordered them.

think of all the bonus money that isn't making it into the pockets of
the senior mismanagers. although they get more than enough as it is. 
maybe thats the problem...

wouldn't the shareholders and wall street love to know that all the
people were not called back from furlough as stated publicly and the
ones that were, are probably going to get cut again in january as the
csxt decides to go the unproductive route and use one man remote
operations, and consolidate yardmasters to running 2 or more rail
yards

yea business is not all that good mr. shareholder. a railroad that
doesn't want to run trains, but is happy to take taxpayer money to
fund its operations, and piss on union members who actually make the
money and deliver the goods for the country but have to cover their ass
every minute for fear of being run off for not finding a piece of paper
in a switch point which caused no damage and where no on got hurt and
god forbid your call off sick more than twice in a 4 week period for
which you don't get paid anyway, so they can use you as a scapegoat
for not being able to run a train instead of hiring more people.

lets not forget to cut people off for making guarantee, which no one
does because they make more than guarantee...its the shortage of
switchmen causing csx to call brakemen to fill yard jobs which pays
ABOVE guarantee which in the infinite wisdom of csx accounting can't 
figure out shows as guarantee payment.

need we go on?

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 23 December 2010

Hey Santarail;

You're as full of shit as a Christmas goose!

Name: Santarail
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 23 December 2010

NoMo 

I didn't say anything negative and you jump on me like a monkey on a
banana.

Just who are you to post on   here you dont even work for Csx.  You're
just foamer who has nothing better to do than run down csx the greatest
company of all time.  100K in this economy is nothing to laugh about. 
I have friends that are teachers, lawyers, dentist, farmers etc. they
dont make much different than I do.  I live across street from
president of first national and trust.   

So yes i am proud of my 100k.  O yeah I've never worked 80hrs in a
week on the rr. 

Merry Christmas  CSX and all my fellow workers

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 23 December 2010

Hey Santarail:

Don't believe I'd be braggin' about either of those...$100K ain't
shit especially when you work 80 hours a week. 

Maybe if you had stayed in school, you'd be retired by now, livin'
large and drinking the good stuff or at least non-delusional!

Name: Santarail
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 23 December 2010

I just pullen in beautiful Brewer yard.  Those great men I worked for
just gave me a Christmas turkey for staying marked up.  This place is
the greatest yard on the system.  Thats saying alot beca  use csx is
the greatest job on earth. I dont know why you men complain on here. 
I'm going to work Christmas so I can make triple time.  How I love
this place.  What person in thre right mind wouldnt want a job out
here.   I sure hope they dont shut down. I will miss not seeing
everyones happy faces.    and  i also going to make over 100k this year
hows that for dropping out of school at 14.

Name: peanutbutter
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 23 December 2010

Merry Christmas to all the hard working rrers.


To rest of you company men.  I hope you all get called out right before
Christman dinner.

Well the ble and utu offices will be closing I didnt know the rr shut
down why should those pigs..

Our fat lazy no good union rep that cant barely hold a job will be
laying off union as soon as he gets in.   He'll be taking caring of
all kinds of union affairs like feeding his fat ass. 

I'm sick of him and the rest of those guys claiming jobs they cant
hold and staying displaced.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 23 December 2010

NoMo

Question already answered. If anything I'd say at one time there was
reverse discrimination. CSX at one time was more liberal with their
black employees. Not so today the make up on CSX is diverse. CSX firing
habits are an equal oppertunity.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 23 December 2010

Hey APE <1:

Why would they go to the trouble to hire and train you, if they were
just going to fire you?

Is there any truth to that claim RRJ?

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 23 December 2010

"If u r black and work out of Richmond, Va u will b fired". I worked
out of Richmond I know that isn't a fact. There definitely wasn't any
discrimination. You had be a screw up. Quit using the race card as an
excuse. That's being a coward and not excepting responsibility. It
doesn't matter wether you worked on the SCL, B&O E, or C&O sides CSX
is an equal oppertunity employer that will fire anyone.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 22 December 2010

if you r black and work in richmond va you r gonna get fired

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 22 December 2010

It's the RR way...always has been and always will be. No buyout...
don't ever believe anything you hear and only half of what you see!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 22 December 2010

We are wondering about that at my HT too.  Bunch of trainees on the
roster, none could hold a job if they marked up today,  and they
haven't set any engineers back yet. Another buyout rumor? LMAO

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 21 December 2010

Why is CSX hiring all these conductors? They're like mass hiring all
across the country but there's no room to put them anywhere. Are they
Preparing a buyout? because thats all that about makes sense.

Name: Matt Sanders
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 20 December 2010

Is it me or does my girlfriend remind you of a member of ms-13??  She
loves her tacos and she runs for the border!!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 17 December 2010

4 Trying:

Michael J. Ward
CSX Transportation
General Office Building
15th Floor    
500 Water Street
Jacksonville, Florida 32202
904-366-5210

firstname_lastname@csx.com


Start at the top

Name: Trying
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 December 2010

Need head honchos email address anyone have it???  Either HR or Higher

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 December 2010

Enjoyed the derailment, and my comments are as follows.

Conductor did his job, and proved it when the locomotives passed thru
the switch.

Locomotive doors should be just like every business, self closing, and
locked electronically, Or like a car if you want. Push the key fob if
ya want them locked, or unlocked. I know they are not this way, but
where in heck are the unions, Mgt, and common sense.

PS-- never leave your motel room with out the card, see the point.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 December 2010

Unless things have changed and they probably have, that may be an IC
crew inbound to Mays Yard which is just a few blocks west of the
derailment site.

I have only made one or two deliveries to Mays and that was only
during a ML outage. I also noticed there was no switch lock!

Name: KYLE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for N/A
Posted: 14 December 2010

From what i can see, its hard to tell as i can not see the switch target
were the derailment must have started,But the C did check the switch
points before the move so the cars were loads & it could have been a
sharp flange, or a small piece of the turnout broke off and caused the
wheels to pick the point,or the points could have been worn back a wee
bit, but i know dam well when managment sees that vid they are going to
get that C for stepping on the switch ball, looks like he also tryed to
push the lever itself before he pushed down on the ball,  Said it
before and say it again, if those switches were well lubed,You would
not need to push on the ball with a foot, Hell you can tell at first he
had a hard time throwing the switch & he would not have givin the ok for
the move if those points were gapping.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 14 December 2010

They must of changed it since I left. I see that it's an add on to the
rule. Before I retired people were getting nailed left and right on
that one.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 14 December 2010

GS-18 D "Do not use your feet for any purpose other than to operate the
keeper OR TO APPLY FINAL DOWNWARD PRESSURE TO THE SWITCH LEVER TO LATCH
IT."

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 14 December 2010

I hope the trainmaster that showed up didn't see this footage of course
it's now on youtube. The conductor using his foot on the switch to
close it was a big no-no. CSX doesn't care if the derailment was track
conditions they'll look at the train crew rules violations. Rail
fans??????

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 14 December 2010

Chris Kidd

We've been complaining about non working locks on doors for decades. I
just read last week that Larry Szabo head of the FRA is working with the
unions to address this problem after the unfortunate murder of Fred
Gibbs least not forget the engineer was also shot but survived plus
other incidents. Your trying to compare apples to oranges in your
posted articles on the site you created. Get serious with it. I
understand your not a journalist if the articles become to far fetched
it can't be taken seriously. The Green Award & Fred Gibbs could of
been two separate articles. I also understand your frustration with the
situation with CSX and the termination. Don't make the articles sound
like a disgruntled employee. Do more research. Kudos to you for
starting the sight. It'll most likely mean getting your job back on
the appeals will be more difficult. If you do get it back a bulleyes
will be on you one big target for management. If you do get back hit
the ground say you got hurt and sue under FELA. They'll terminate you
anyways under an injury but you'll get some money. It is what it is.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 13 December 2010

Looks like a 100 feet past the Frog...that's my story and I'm sticking
with it!

Name: SNAFU
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 10-20 years
Posted: 13 December 2010

ANOTHER DAY ON THIS CHICKEN SHIT eXPRESS 


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03Nq632eV6I


SWEEP THIS UNDER THE RUG

Name: KYLE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 12 December 2010

What i found when i hired on under CON-RAIL is most employees are worse
than a bunch of old hags who like to gossip about all the workers, I
found out you can not hide anything personal on the rr, they will find
it out and yap like mag pies about you, even if a peep off the property
gets for say a DUI the entire div will know about very fast & so will
the officers at div headquarters, then in the locker rooms, yea thats a
good 1 never heard so many peeps being talked about & all the nic names
that come out, And just get in trouble 1 frickin time on the rr and
everyone knows your name for 300 miles at every frickin yard on the
system in less than 1 day esp now with the computers, you cant hide 1
dam thing about even your personal life, seems they even know who yer
wife is and what ya do in bed, they the men we the men know who the the
alocoholics are we know who uses drugs, we know who cheats on thier old
ladies, we know who the accident pron peeps are, we know who is
straight& who is gay, we know if you got a dishonerable dis from the
service, yes we know this shit and if we know it so do the officers at
div headquarters, The only reason i am saying all tis stuff is for new
peeps who just hired on or the ones who will be hired, if ya have a
secret personal life, then forget it as everyone on the rr will find
out about in a very short time, enough said.....

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 11 December 2010

Always lock the doors...keeps the brass from disturbing your restful
repose!

Seriously...your personal safety is your responsibility. CSX could
issue another rule to lock the cab doors but how many employees would
follow the rule? It would just give CSX another hammer to hold over
your head. 

It's situational awareness. I've been attached by wild dogs, rabid
coons, ducks, buzzed by hawks, chased by sow pigs, gators, spider and
snakes and shot at. 

Fred Gibbs was at the wrong place at the wrong time and got called
home. He's not the first and he won't be the last.

As far as the Green Award is concerned...business has been slow over
the last few years. CSX has mothballed 100s of older engines, run fewer
trains, fewer carloads and less tonnage. Numbers don't lie but how they
are presented can be very misleading or left open to interpretation.

I wonder if CSX does any advertising in Newsweek? If they do, it might
contribute to how the numbers were presented!

Name: Chris Kidd
E-mail: contact@csx-corruption.com
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 11 December 2010

To answer the question below about the fellow who asked what the murder
of Fred Gibbs has to do with the Newsweek Green Ranking Award, I will
say the following (with no further comment after this).  

First of all, I run a website designed to tell facts that CSX is good
at hiding.  I do not work or write for Time Magazine.  Secondly, as the
article states clearly, one of the qualifications Newsweek used in
determining CSX's Green Ranking was revenue and market capitalization.
 CSX is raking is record profits and that  fact along with its large
number of employees, naturally gave CSX a weightier rating (and without
that alone, the NS would have blown their score to bits).  So I ask you,
what does it have to do with pollution?  To hell if I know, but Newsweek
used it in their figures.  CEO's of prominent US companies also cast a
ballot, of course voting for their friends, not environmental facts.  

With that being said, you said yourself that half of the locks on the
locomotives are rusty and do not work.  Since the terrorist attacks on
9/11, airline cockpits are locked to the tee and extra protection is
given to pilots.  The point in mentioning Fred Gibbs was this: No
matter whether the locomotive he was on had a lock that worked or not,
it wasn't locked and maybe CSX should take the lead in instructing its
employees for their own safety to secure themselves, however, that would
require ensuring that every locomotive be able to be secured, which
would cost them some of that market capitalization.  I tied that fact
into the article because with CSX posting record breaking profits, and
that being part of the Newsweek score, maybe they should spend some of
it on safety measures instead of waiting until they are forced.  

CSX brags of its money to attract investors and win awards.  Meanwhile,
employees can't even lock their doors at night, much less lock any
doors of any trailing units.  How many times have you (if you are a
locomotive engineer or if you know one), have went to shut down a
trailing locomotive (due to fuel conservation of course), and had a
hobo scare the living shit out of you.  

That kind of stuff used to be funny, just like taking a train to
Atlanta while the whole crew shared a liquor bottle on the way up and
then come home with a hangover.  Neither one of them is funny now, but
crew safety isn't addressed.  My point is, instead of touting awards,
use the some of the profit to invest in the ones that make it to begin
with, then brag with what is leftover.

However, thank you for the comment.  Everyone doesn't have to agree,
but you got me thinking enough to add some more facts to the article,
lol.  

Note: This is referring to a comment made asking what Fred Gibbs murder
had to do with this article: http://csx-corruption.com/green-ranking

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 11 December 2010

I just want to know what the hell is the problem with csx.  They hired 7
conductors for chattanooga yard in tennessee.  There are no positions in
this sorry excuse for a yard.  And now we get laid off....WTF  I left a
job to come to this shit hole to get laid off and have to find another
job.  Fuck You Pete B....

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Yard Master, for 10-20 years
Posted: 10 December 2010

CSX Management Style designed by Davy "Shitbag" Brown

Expect more Gay Shit from the Ole Chicken Shit eXpress

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 1-10 years
Posted: 09 December 2010

What kind of work environment is expected when in order to become a
manager or company official, people are expected to work three times
the hours for half of the pay, endure countless degrading ass chewings
from supervisors who have little grasp of whats really happening or
what they are asking you to do, or what really needs to be done. Who
would want the job??? certainly not anyone that should be in those
positions. Thats why we are plagued with (90 day wonders) and people
who think a degree makes them qualified to supervise people with
decades more experience on the job.       Morale and work conditions
will continue to decline until CSX wakes up and deals with this
problem, what would it be like if we had (qualified) people in charge,
making good decisions, but hey, what the heck, they are making money in
spite of themselves...Who really cares about employee concerns
anyway.....THE RIGHT RESULTS - THE RIGHT WAY.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 07 December 2010

How does the tragic murder of a CSX employee and the Green Award fit in
together? I don't see the similairity. What happened was a tragidy. I
wish the Feds and CSX would keep their noses out of ones grip so people
could carry guns like it use be. I'm sure some people still do. Working
locks on the locomotives make sense. Most of them have locks installed
but are so damn rusted they don't work. The Green Award is about
pollution not worker safety. At least not in your comparison.

Name: Dong Bageley
E-mail: mikewardsbitch@csx.com
Employed as: M of W, for 1-10 years
Posted: 06 December 2010

Where
talk to Greg Weiss, Ian Hazelwood, or Brian Hall. The agreement does
apply to you. Nashville division on the CE&D.

Name: 
E-mail: contact@csx-corruption.com
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 06 December 2010

I have some newer content that might interest some of you.  Haven't had
a lot of time until now to start doing research, but it would help if
you guys give this a read and look at the charts and tables I've put
together. This is an article relating to CSX's Newsweek Green Ranking
award that they were bragging so much about last month. 

http://csx-corruption.com/green-ranking/

Thanks to the administrator of this site for welcoming me and also for
allowing to me to post an article every now and then for you guys
enjoyment.

Name: Steve Crain
E-mail: tomheike@needsteeth.com
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 05 December 2010

I have been offered a job on the coal pier in Baltimore.  I heard unless
you support Rev. Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson, you stand no chance. 
Is this true??  I mean, I do love my KFC and watermellon farms and have
always been a big supporter of Old English 40's.  Do you think that
will help??  And when I pose a question, I always start out with "let
me AX you a question".  I do not know, I think I have a pretty good
shot here people.  Anyone here work on the coal pier there??  Any
advice would greatly appreciated.  Thanks and happy holidays everyone!!

Name: chief
E-mail: 
Employed as: Car repair, for 30+ years
Posted: 04 December 2010

Car repair 20-30 years. Nobody makes $40/hour on the car side you
fuckin' retard or is that in pesos.... get a life!

Name: Retired CSX
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 04 December 2010

Is Tom Wolfe still employed? Or has his past of being a horrible officer
and human being caught up to him?

Name: ....
E-mail: 
Employed as: Car repair, for 20-30 years
Posted: 03 December 2010

you're all dumb, CSX is one of the best jobs out there! i get 40.87/hr.
hows that for ya? fuckin retards.

Name: where
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 02 December 2010

I work north out of evansville indiana

what region am i and does any of this 2010agreement apply to me

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 01 December 2010

http://www.wtap.com/news/headlines/CSX_Worker_Recovering_After_125-Foot_Fall_In_WVa_111050324.htm

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 27 November 2010

Remote Control Trains


Lets talk about Montgomery Alabama and the Dangers CSX puts the city in
every day with the Remote Control Engines.. I've seen the remote
control engines crash into incoming and out going trains and come with
in feet of crashing into loaded dangerous tanks which could have killed
a lot of people in the city of montgomery. Esp the people down at the
ball park and around the river front concert area.

I seen a remote crash into a train at the north end of the montgomery
yard injuring the conductor and engineer and the csx trainmasters had
to do there own medical exam before getting the crew real medical
treatment. Just a little extra information for you.

I have seen at least 15 crashes, no telling how many I didn't see.
Most of which were not reported to the FRA. I know this because I heard
the trainmasters talk about it....

One day I went to work and the trainmaster tells me not to go down
below the little trailer located in Chester yard, he tells me that they
may had had a dangerous spill, come to find out they moved that tank
from track to track all day long while it was leaking out, trying to
keep it out of site.  He came to me later telling me that it was okay
there was no spill, Hummm if there was no spill why was the hazmat team
working on the tank for hours???????? I wonder how many people around
the csx yard got sick that day???? 

This story is for the people of Montgomery, Prattville, Millbrook, and
anyone else that lives near the montgomery yard, I think one day they
will have a bad remote crash and many people may die, I hope it
doesn't happen but I do believe it will,,, 

CSX claims the Remote control train saves them money, its all about
money. 

I really wonder if the people in Montgomery know what may happen one
day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   

This is just part of the story, u will see the rest in my book. I have
a lot to tell.........

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 27 November 2010

INTERVIEWED FOR HEAVY EQUIPMENT OPERATOR JOB AT COAL PIERS. THEY TOLD ME
UNLIMITED OVERTIME, HOW GREAT UNION WAS,BENEFITS,GOOD PAY AND BEST OF
ALL IT WAS A FAMILY ORIENTED COMPANY. I THOUGHT ABOUT THAT AND WONDERED
WHY THEY HAD SO MANY OPENINGS. THEY WOULDNT TELL ME WHY.THAT RIGHT THERE
DID IT FOR ME.ALSO DIDN'T LIKE THE FACT THAT THEY WOULDN'T TELL ME
WHAT SHIFT I WOULD BE ON UNTIL AFTER I GOT BACK FROM REDI AND A COUPLE
OF WEEKS OF OJT.NO THANKS THEY CAN HAVE IT.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 27 November 2010

the sad thing is we have the power to screw over the carriers, yet we
act like sheep,next week is bring a ball bat to work week, after a
train master gets poped a few times they will leave us alone.....train
master thats a joke....most train masters are clueless when it comes to
what there job is........most are nothing more then ego maniacs,who take
pleasure in being assholes.....

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 26 November 2010

Engineer 1-10......I agree with you 100%  I've never seen so much low
morale & unhappy workers in all my years.  I can't wait until an
employee works so much without a day off & decides to go postal.  Maybe
then CSX will learn there lesson because the mood out here is very ugly
for sure.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 26 November 2010

YOU WOULD HAVE TO BE INSANE TO TAKE A JOB AT THE COAL PIER IN BALTIMORE.
DO YOU LIKE TO BE WATCHED BY A VIDEO CAMERA WHILE YOU EAT YOUR LUNCH?
HOW ABOUT WORKING EVERY WEEKEND AND HOLIDAY AT STRAIGHT TIME ON THE
NIGHT SHIFT. NO SHIFT PREMIUM FOR 3-11 OR 11-7. FLAMING ASSHOLES FOR
SUPERVISORS. THEY GOT THEIR DEGREES FROM THE INTERNET. A FREAK WITH
HALF HIS TEETH AND HALF AN EAR MISSING RATTING EVERY BODY OUT. ASK THEM
WHEN YOU INTERVIEW, IF YOU GET THAT FAR, HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE QUIT IN
THE LAST 6 MONTHS. IF YOU HIRE ON AS A F/O YOU WILL BE NOTHING BUT A
LABORER. YOU'LL DRAG AROUND A FIRE HOSE AND  WASH COAL OFF THE
CONVEYORS. EQUIPMENT OPERATOR IS A SCAM TOO. YOU WILL BE ON TOP OF A 8
STORY COAL PILE AT NIGHT, PUSHING THE SHIT AROUND. THERE IS VIRTUALLY
NO UNION REPRESENTATION BUT OF COURSE YOU WILL HAVE TO PAY DUES. THIS
IS JUST THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG...............GOOD LUCK...........CSX
SUCKS

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 26 November 2010

RRJ, I have heard that from numerous old heads and have also heard the
young guys suggest the same thing, but this is CSX, bean counters &
plain stupidity.

I'm yet to see some logic or real ethics from these people.  The path
they are on will not make them a better company, and its pretty sad
when all your fellow employees say that they hate this railroad.  

Happy Thanksgiving!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 26 November 2010

It use to be someone could run up and work on a holiday so others could
have time off with their families. I don't understand why that's not
possible today seeing once a person who is marked off goes back on the
board upon marking up instead of waiting on their pool to return. Of
course you need people willing to work. Plus since moving CMC to JAX
years ago crew callers today don't have the same interaction with
people like when they were local. This attendance policy doesn't leave
room for anything. People I never would of thought are getting letters
over this policy. The ones who end up with 450-500 starts a year.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 25 November 2010

Happy Thanksgiving to all CSX railroad employees, and I hope most can be
home for the holiday.

I know CSX is a piece of shit unethical company to work for, and I know
some people will be stuck out there moving trains when there is really
no reason to be working with the whole country shut down.

I just wanna wish everyones family a happy holiday from one railroad
employee to another.  I could care less about Ward, Brown, or Sandborn.
 We know they don't work holidays, and we know they don't care about
you & me.

Name: ddd
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 1-10 years
Posted: 23 November 2010

At Bob, do you still work on the bridge? i am a bridge mech too.

Name: KYLE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 22 November 2010

What i found out about the rr, Is do not trust anyone as there are many
back stabbers on the rr who are out for personal gains both in
managment & the peeps you work with,Guess this is a thing that comes
with working for any big industry, Ya got to look out for yourself.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 22 November 2010

Goob

Buying CSX low 20 month ago 401K increased by 65%. If the economy was
to take another down swing moving it to a money market is an option.
When things bottom out buy CSX low again. BLET as the administrator
does charge a fee moving it to an IRA might be worth looking into.
Every article I've read CSX and the other railroads will continue to
move upwards in 2011. Which if things work right I should be able to
make the move in 2012. Biggest threat in the future to railroads the
goverments green energy plans of getting away from fossil fuels like
coal. It's less of a threat with republicans controlling the house and
the divide in the senate is slim.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 20-30 years
Posted: 21 November 2010

my father got his job in selkirk 38 yrs ago with conrail as
brakeman,worked the hump, so did my uncle, who retired from selkirk, my
dad went to amtrak, died 6 months b4 retirement. he was proud of this
heritage. hard work reaps it rewards... through bumps and on calls, all
those 4-12s on the west end, i never saw my pop but he provided for the
family. i give props to the railroad, everyone of you that work there,
from the shop to the police to the trackmen. you keep this country
original and strong and noone knows the private part of what you do,
you are America and i am proud. Donald Dubay r.i.p. lived breathed
American Railroad. i appreciate all of you that strive, advocate your
rights and believe in your future. you are the ultimate strength. you
are lifers and have a common belief in your system. thru thick and
thin, bless you all.... thats all i have to say. loud and proud ~D.S.D.
  god bless you and yours

Name: Paul L.
E-mail: penncentral@earthlink.net
Employed as: Car repair, for 30+ years
Posted: 21 November 2010

WOW...it's been like almost four years since the last time I took a
peek at this site....amazed it's still up and running and hard to
believe how little things have changed.  

CSX still sucks....?!?....OMG that's just way TOOoooo funny (((lol)))

Hey, I can't say I don't miss the job (well maybe I wouldn't say
that if I were still there?!?) or some of the guys in Selkirk.  But
from most of the posts I've read, CSX still insists on treating its
employees like trash. 

I will always think back fondly of my days working for CONRAIL (or even
my first couple years with the Penn Central for that matter). Now THAT
was the way to run a railroad!!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 21 November 2010

RRJ.
Drawing 2.5 to 5.0 % on the money market is way above my skill level.
Sit right there and enjoy the income?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 21 November 2010

RRJ,
I know that the 59 1/2 is a problem when it comes to redemption. The
Union may or may not let it go. If you say the Union will not let it go
that is the way it is. I would ask---- simply because, there is no
penalty to an IRA, or 401k for moving it to a better account. Timing is
a player, Need to move from one to the other, and not thru yourself.
However ya can do that also.

If you are paying for it to be there---- Move it. It is yours. The
union may apply a penalty, but that is OK, If ya want to run it
yourself.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 21 November 2010

Times have changed. Most major corporations have learned that they can
do more with less of a work force. Unfortunately in a strange twist the
2008 economic downturn did them a favor. I'm surprised at the number of
job postings CSX does have with accepting applications all over the
system.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 21 November 2010

On Jan 1, 2012 all train conductors will have to be certified under the
FRA. First license will be given to those already promoted by being
grandfathered. Welcome to the club. Like engineers a DUI and other
deemed infractions will count against the certification. A FRA
violation can suspend the license even if the railroad doesn't charge
the individual with an offense. Like engineers testing will be done to
maintain certification and it won't be an open book like operating
rules test. The FRA will leave it up to the railroads to license just
like the engineers. It's all a big sham. The UTU's thinking is
muddled just like when the BLE went for licensing. What they thought
was job security ended up putting more restrictions on the craft. It
was just a matter of time for this to happen. Under the 2008 FRA Safety
regulations it's become a reality.

Name: plmorgan
E-mail: 
Employed as: CSX Contractor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 21 November 2010

CSX BLOWS ASS!!!!!!!!

Name: UBTUCKER
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 21 November 2010

I agree with you Bob, I too am working in the Cinci/Kentucky area and
have found that you need to be much younger than I,(43) to keep up and
I think men our age should be treated with a bit of respect, not talked
to like we are trash. I wouldn't recomend this job to nyone over 30
years old, I was not hired as a track worker but sure spend my share
doing physical labor. No time off and on call 24/7. It sucks.

Name: bob gardner
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 1-10 years
Posted: 21 November 2010

I was hired as a bridge mechanic in the Cinci Ohio area, if you have
applied to this job, don't be fooled by it's title. You will be
working your self to the core, doing anything that needs done, all
hours of the day and never able to leave town or catch any time off.
They were always calling me in for something or another, unless you are
20 years old, this isn't the kind of work to be in. There is NO excuse
for the way this company treats you, they are always firing people and
no one does anything right. They don't care about you or your family.
RUN.

Name: john jack
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 20 November 2010

Avoid the Baltimore Coal Piers, yeah you can get good money but you'll
be tossed out or leave within months. They complain about being
understaffed but whenever they get someone they are driven off by
whoever their working with.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 19 November 2010

I understand stock options are given. Under the SEC filings it still
shows the individual purchased low and sold high on the same day. I
also know there are time limits for them to excersise the stock
options.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 19 November 2010

Goob

The union 401K I'm stuck in suck's big time. The only choices are
around 25 schidty mutual funds, a few bonds, one money market, and CSX
stock. Seeing I'm 3 years from 59 1/2 before I can move it the only
two good options are CSX and the money market which pays from 2 1/2% -
5%. I have plans in the works that'll release me early hopefully by
2012. Then I'll move it to an account where I have sole descretion on
investments.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 18 November 2010

RRJ, 
Buying at $17.00 and selling at $62.00 is not exactly the story.

Stock options for ex's are not purchased they are awarded, held until
redemption. Free, however they may have have claws attached, timing,
and such. There is a whole NEW world there.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 18 November 2010

RRJ,
I Can help ya with that 401K. Just send me an Email. I will send mine
to the webmaster, and release it to you, you will need to do the same.

BMW is not bruised as much as my EGO.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 18 November 2010

R I P
    M W C
You will never 
be Forgotten.6/10

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 November 2010

ANYBODY have an idea on how to get into the utu's iLink Awards
database; being a non-officer?  I need a userid and password.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 November 2010

ALOT OF OPENINGS IN BALTIMORE AT THE COAL PIERS. ANYONE KNOW WHY? GOOD
OR BAD PLACE TO WORK OR JUST EXPANDING?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 16 November 2010

To all the people around Syracuse.  Stussie is bringing his clone to
your area.  Name is Adam Hawkins.  He is just as bad as Stussie.  He go
hired as a TM because is dad is high up in the company.  This guy ran
Martin, KY into the ground.  Just watch your backs.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 15 November 2010

Goob

I expected sell offs when the price got around $63. Especially the
upper eshilon Ward, Munez, Sanborn ect.. stock options buying at $17
selling at $62 the same day. I didn't expect someone on the BOD
selling 20 million out of the 3M Fund. Activity on the NS & UP was the
same they were all down last week. What I bought CSX for last year
leaves me a lot of room. I can't do anything with the 401K for a few
more years hopefully sooner. I'm looking at a game plan for making
investments when the time comes. 

The Beemer met a car. A little road rash? Yeah, mostly bruised ego and
a ugly motorcycle. Glad you're alright. A few years ago I had to
intentionaly drop the HD when someone ran a red light in front of me.
He needed a whooper at BK made a right turn never looked to see if the
coast was clear. It was hitting him or hitting asphalt the road looked
better. I slid about 30 feet it was in febuary messed up the leather
around $8500 damage to the bike. Biggest cost replace the fairing and
saddle bags.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 November 2010

RRJ, I worked as a Fireman in the yard very little. We had 3.15 3.30 and
3.55 Yard jobs on second trick. I never understood the timing. However I
always loved the 8 hour day. I could never hold any of them, so it made
no difference to me. I do remember 3rd trick was sleepy time (we parked
a lot)
After moving to Train service, I never worked in any yard again. I do
know that many years after I left---- rosters were changed and a lot of
my friends took switching job's to get away from the road and the away
from home time so they could have a job with regular hours.

As a Fireman or Engineer a yard job would have been fine for me In my
years. I hated switching with a passion, justed wanted to high rail,
and on call was something that I was willing to put up with, It gave me
freedom 29 days a month.

RRJ as a side note. The BMW and a car met in the same spot Thursday.
Bruised but OK. Bike to the dealer next week. I got to meet a lot of
nice folks from the PD,EMT,Fire etc. Feel like a FOOL.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 November 2010

RRJ,
If any Ex is selling and the Company is buying back, can you see the
PICTURE.
I would be much more concerned than you seem to be.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 12 November 2010

High speed rail:

http://senorgif.memebase.com/2010/11/08/funny-gifs-gravitation/#comments

Name: NoMo
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Posted: 11 November 2010

Today I will be having my stomach pumped.   I suspect you guys know what
for.  I wish you all safe trips.

P.S. Ward you sure look nice today.

Name: RRJ
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 10 November 2010

Alexander Bering one of CSX board of directors who manages the 3M fund
sold over 20 million shares yesterday. CSX is buying back shares.
Nothing under the table the SEC listing was available to the public.

Name: 
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Posted: 10 November 2010

CSX Corp. erased gains after two blocks totaling 20.5 million shares
changed hands, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.

The Jacksonville, Florida-based railroad had risen as much as 2.7
percent to $64.50 before the shares traded for $62.50 each at 3:17 p.m.
and 3:18 p.m. in New York, Bloomberg data show. The stock was worth
$1.28 billion at that price.

JPMorgan Chase & Co. said it handled a transaction for 20.5 million
shares at about the same time, according to data compiled by
Bloomberg.

CSX shares rallied 30 percent in 2010 through yesterday, beating the
7.4 percent advance for the Standard & Poor’s 500 Index.

To contact the reporter on this story: Elizabeth Stanton in New York at
estanton@bloomberg.net

To contact the editor responsible for this story: Nick Baker at
nbaker7@bloomberg.net.

Name: RRJ
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 10 November 2010

Goob

Only standing for 2nd trick was fine. It's the shift I would of worked
anyways. You didn't have to get up early there's time to get things
done before going to work and when you got off there was still time to
go out unless you worked OT. There isn't much to go to today if it
gets slow without having to travel up to 200 miles to work under the
consolidated roster. Biggest loss was prior rights. Under prior rights
advancement of seniority was better when retirements came around it
moved a person up real quick. When my generation retires that ends
prior rights (protected statis). Bad side of it was when a subdivision
or yard slowed/shut down. I've seen that happen acouple if times in
the '80s. I've seen 30 year men go to the bottom of an extra board
roster to keep working. Usually if the yard/subdivision was shut down
they had the New York Dock to fall back on. Cutting jobs without a
reduction of business like the remotes those affected should of fell
under the New York/Washington Dock agreements. The union doesn't work
like that anymore.

Name: 
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Posted: 09 November 2010

Only a second trick yard job is a part of the RR and the unions. The
unions hold the roster first in and first out.
Now find a RR union that has a bunch leaving and be running in just a
few, It is the luck factor, Kinda like walking in the door and getting
hired as a switchman, and the next guy is a fireman. Oh I forgot this
is 2010. sorry the way it was when RRJ hired in, as well as me. I was
cut of 1 month with arb 282 and 1 month as a brakeman in 7 years. The
manpower flow is very important, hire in behind a bunch and pack a
lunch you will need it.

Name: NoMo
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Posted: 08 November 2010

Look out...these babies are counter-rotating.

I wonder is Cindy or Linda can do this!!!

           http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/81171292/

Name: Trianman
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Employed as: Brakeman, for 1-10 years
Posted: 08 November 2010

Profits over Safety!  Trains are derailing every where for the lack of
track maintance!  CNN needs to do a story........

Name: RRJ
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 08 November 2010

KYLE

Welcome to the club. I had over 30 years only stood for a 2nd trick
yard job. Do you get furloughed anymore? Working year round is an
accomplishment. Downsizing has hurt everyone it's still going on. CSX
in my area recently abolished some local industrial switchers placing
all the work on one job. We had yard switchers and pushers at one time
on each shift now it's combined the few full crew yard jobs left do
everything switch cars and shove trains. Let's not forget the remotes
the loss of an engineers job they started out with two people now it's
a one man remote. Car inspectors I can't count the times we've sat for
hours waiting on a brake test because they've been cut back. There are
only a few diesel shops left. In my area they only work two shifts if a
locomotive had problems after 2230 you were screwed. You had to contact
the mechanical helpline if nothing could be done it meant trying to
find another locomotive set somewhere in the yard. There were times we
sat in the yard for 12 hours till we hogged. Definitely not away to run
a railroad.

Name: village idiot
E-mail: luvbngoutofcsx.com
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 06 November 2010

UNSTOPABLE opens fun to take count of how many safety violations in the
movie trailer already show bo safety glasses.....

Name: KYLE
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Employed as: Engine repair, for 20-30 years
Posted: 06 November 2010

To the person who said 20+ yrs makes you a old head,,Dam i wish that was
true as i have 21 yrs on the roster on my div and i can not even hold a
lousey 3rd trick yard job oh yea for about a week then i get bumped and
have to go back on the extra board, I would think with 20 yrs that i
could at least hold a 3rd trick shitty yard job, Guess i will have to
wait until i am 65 to even dream about holding a 1st trick yard job as
this extra list thing ,,Its just getting to me and yes i knew when i
hired it would be a extra list deal but with over 20 yrs its getting to
suck and i guess its going to suck even more in the future from what i
can see.

Name: hottytotty
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Posted: 05 November 2010

but don't the railroaders need love too?

Name: RRJ
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 03 November 2010

Minnie

You're furloughed at Newport News? What's wrong with them people. Who
did that Greathouse? I remember when you got the job after Bill Cash
retired. They have always had a machinist on duty to service the
locomotives. Even though I'm retired I still know coal trains are
running to News.

Name: RRJ
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 03 November 2010

Well good for them they got $100,000 for selling nothing. Whose the dumb
arse there junior? "Blankable jobs" in my area haven't been filled in
a long time. You young'uns really put it to them oldheads. You'll
never learn anything.

Name: KCJONES
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Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 02 November 2010

To Hottytotty
   Get another boyfriend that doesn't work on the RR!!!

Name: 
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 02 November 2010

wow rrj i didnt know that they sold theyre men back in 1993, no kidding
we already know that, they sold their "BLANKABLE" rights, yes there
is a difference, but you wouldnt know that! and the union meeting that
us "lads" shoudlve showed up to right?  WRONG , you mean the private
meeting for those 26 guys was held at a hotel and POST 1985 guys werent
allowed to attend! But atleast theres comfort in knowing that the
switchman that took promotion to engineer, will never get that money!
So before you post about new guys not go to meeting you have absolutely
no fucking idea about, just keep to yourself and shut the FUCK UP, and
nomo you have no idea either!

Name: Ms. Minnie
E-mail: sheabutterwom@yahoo.com
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 1-10 years
Posted: 02 November 2010

Safety First......  What a joke!  When I came back for the third time
after being laid off. I felt a big release seeing just how the railroad
has change in the way being more safe. But after being laid off this
time as the lead machinist for Newport News, Virginia.....  I wonder
who's inspecting and repairs the defects on the locomotives and remote
controls.  I was told work was slow and I was not needed anymore!  And
on top of that why do they have my name still on the office door!  What
part of this that the FRA - and State Inspectors don't understand or
see!!!!!!


Oh, my boss didn't report the Yardmaster for telling me....that he
never seen a woman like me before and he don't like the way I don't
play by his rules of during inspection. In other words who gave a
samhill about me.....  Out again and I know I was very good at what I
did!  Thanks a lot......  I guess, my days are over with CSX
railroad......    Why do they have unions there anyway!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I felt that I always did a excellent job and worked safe. Especially
paid a lot of attentionof being safe: since I worked 99.99% alone. 
Maybe, if I play along with the yardmaster's BS's and worked
unsafe.....then maybe he would've good resons to down play me in front
of  his Men! And claim he didn;t need me around....Like he said, "He
gets his way in the end". 

The person held this position was a Man.  And the position stay open
for months....... Cut short for ME!!!!   lol    But like I said the
real laugh is on the Trainmaster.....he lose a good Woman on the Job...
  I believe in God!  God will open up another position for me!   I need
everyone prays and blesses!

Name: tom
E-mail: gjmela@gmail.com
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 1-10 years
Posted: 02 November 2010

i work as truck driver owner operator for csx.
csx suck. they tried to force you to do unsafe jobs but they try to
have their back cover. we deliver every day overweight loads. last week
they dispatch a delivery of a container with a load shift on one side
lucky for me was visible that container was leaning on one side.  i
talked with some other drivers and i was at least 3rd they tried to
deliver load with. box was very heavy and very easy to roll out. but
csx simply dont care about lifes and our families. 
i am getting out after 5 years working with them. 
i am only greatfull to them because they hired me without any
experience when other carriers refuse to do so.
yes yes safety first

Name: RRJ
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 02 November 2010

NoMo

They still have the service pins but unless someone request it CSX
doesn't just dole them out anymore. The only two I ever got was a 10
year which was from the C&O and I requested the 30 year pin from CSX. 

A lot people might stay longer seeing investments took a dump.

Name: NoMo
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Posted: 02 November 2010

Hey RRJ:

What, no mandatory retirement age? Think, these guys complain if they
stay a day after they reach qualifying. With the number of people on
the RR married to their jobs, they're lucky that there aren't more
people that continue to work well past sixty.

My guess is, with the economy in the dumper like it's been, you'll
begin to see more men staying on an additional couple of years to
compensate for the investment loss they incurred.

Does CSX bestow service pins? When I was but a wee lad I took
a ATSF passenger from Kansas City to Coffeeville. The old conductor had
a lapel full of services pins, which being inquisitive I asked him
about. He explained, with great pride, each one. He said he was 15 when
he started working for the RR, I think his last pin was for 75 years
service.

Another reason it was a memorable trip, the Reverend Ike and his
entourage were on the train...but that's another story.

Name: RRJ
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 02 November 2010

NoMo

Because of the RCO my last two years spent in the yard I didn't stand
for daylights a comfortable second trick pusher. Which was fine by me
it was quieter didn't have to deal with MOW having time on the
mainline most trainmasters went home ect...plus the OT was better than
any other shift. Biggest downside 2nd shift usually got the dreaded FRA
drug test when they came around which pissed off 1st shift because we
would stall for a couple of hours forcing them to work some OT.

Name: RRJ
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 02 November 2010

There isn't a manditory retirement age Ronald Raygun did away with it
back in the '80s. Manditory retirement use to be 65 for conductors and
70 for engineers. I do believe after age 65 their required to take a
company physical every year. We had three yard foremen that collected
social security while working. Two worked till last year the last one
went this year he was the oldest. Couldn't blame them working 5 days a
week plus the work wasn't that difficult waiting for the piers to dump
the coal to pull empties. One also drove a taxi after he got off work.
People do things for a reason.

Name: 
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Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 01 November 2010

There's no mandatory retirement age.  We have a co at my home terminal
72 ears old 50 + years of service.  I remember seeing something on the
bulletin board in Cleveland about an engineer pushing 80, still
working, who just bought himself a new pickup(his old one was 25 years
old)  I guess they think they are going to live forever.

Name: NoMo
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 01 November 2010

Hey RRJ:

There's places on the system men with 30+ years seniority can't hold
a daylight job. In any seniority based operation it's the same, the
oldest man gets first pick, the young guys get the shitty jobs. 

Retirement age...what's that? For a grunt it's Sixty with thirty
years of service at the earliest. Not everyone that's sixty has thirty
years in or their spouse doesn't qualify. Other than that I think
seventy is the mandatory retirement age. Anyone that goes before
seventy is doing everyone except himself a favor...he's just taking
money out of his own pocket.

As far as the old heads bitching, about what? I don't really see it
like that, Most of your posts are in response to posts made by young
guys complaining about being furloughed, or working too much, about the
HOS law or the new attendance policy. Sorry, complaining about it won't
change a thing because that's just the way it works, not only on the RR
but everywhere else to. I think it's safe to assume that when CSX wants
the contract employees opinion, they'll ask. I don't ever remember
them asking me for mine.

There is two things they can do. The first and simplest thing is find
other employment. The second is use the unions as a means to an end.
Although I fear the unions are to far gone to be of any use.

Lacking either of the above, the contract employees will remain 
CSX bots

Name: RRJ
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 01 November 2010

Kyle

Unless you misrepresented yourself it shows you have between 20-30
years out here. Guess what if that's correct you're considered an
oldhead. Heck at some terminals there are those with 10-15 years that
are considered oldheads depends on where their senority was at after
retirements. Oldhead isn't about age it's about seniority. Jezz,
ya'll didn't learn anything. It's like the military a person starts
out as an E-1 at 18 years old in basic training at age 28 their an E-6
that makes them an oldhead by military standards. Railroad is the same.

Name: RRJ
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 01 November 2010

Well, it's to bad. Apparently those 26 people who got the money must of
did something right if this just happened. On the C&O they sold out the
brakemen jobs back in 1985 & 1993. Way before your time. Unfortunately
engineers didn't get a dime only trainmen who were marked up in the
craft. Engineers put in claims figuring we were entitled for the loss
of our brakemen seniority. It wasn't the railroad who shot us down it
was the UTU. Who really sold you out? Definitely not the oldhead. I
guess the only one left to blame is the UTU. 

NoMo

You're absolutely right 26 protected oldheads against maybe 200+
non-protected in a vote especially at a place like Barr Yard. I can't
see how the oldheads could win. All this person wants to do is
complain. He never explained anything. I can bet every oldhead was at
the union meeting while junior was to lazy to show up. Now he wants to
cry over spilled milk. I'm glad I don't have to babysit these dumb
arses anymore.

Name: 
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Posted: 01 November 2010

THANK YOU FOR THE INFO ON BALTIMORE COAL PIER.DAMN,I THOUGHT THIS WOULD
HAVE BEEN A COOL PLACE TO WORK CONSIDERING THE SIZE OF THIS COMPANY, OH
WELL I JUST KEEP PUSHING DIRT. THANKS AGAIN!!!!

Name: KYLE
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Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 01 November 2010

I just wish you old heads would stop yer bitching, You and i work for
the same company, Us younger dudes are the ones who get screwd over the
most you old heads can pick yer jobs we can,t do that, I know thats the
way the rr operates but lighten up already you old farts as i can,t
help it that your getting close to retirement age and if you dont want
to re-tire just give your checks to me as i will spend your money in a
instant.

Name: NoMo
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 31 October 2010

Hey RRJ:

Yeah he really flamed you...he just doesn't like old heads. He resents
the the fact they got $100K to sell out the Switchmen's position; which
will make his job harder.

Barr isn't the only Terminal that happened. Years ago most switching
crews had a Foreskin, and two switchmen. So this isn't the first time
this has happened.

It's just a matter of time before all switching is done in Hump Yards.
With the advent of PFC, the Con on line haul trains are an endangered
species. Over the last 10 years there have been a huge increase in the
number of industrial switching companies; those jobs will be gone in
the next 10 years. The Class Is are interested in line haul and have
been slowly moving that way for the last 25 years.

He should be pissed at the LC. Surely in an operation as large as Barr,
there has to be a lot more new guys than old heads. He said 26 old heads
got the gold. Where were all the new hires when this was happening?

Change is inevitable and as sweeping as it has been over the 10-15
years...you ain't seen nothing yet! In this day and age, you have to
be adaptable or you get left behind.

Name: 
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 31 October 2010

Nope not the same guy jagoff RRJ, dont know shit about baltimore, nor do
i care, worked at barr yard over ten years as a switchman asshole, not a
foamer like you. But heres the BIG PICTURE, do you not realize youre on
a website CSX-SUKS.com , not ILOVECSX.com, so what the hell do you
expect when people come on here bitching about csx dickhead, yet you
throw in your worthless 2 cents about shit! You oldheads fucked the
railroads more than anybody, and now we have to pay the price, you guys
sold shit and gave it away for youre own benefit, so suck it!

Name: RRJ
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 31 October 2010

NoMo

The last two post must be the same arsehole who post BS every now and
then. Darn he barks at me about Barr Yard in one ranting post then
gives advise about Baltimore. One hell of a super-railroader. The dumb
ass likes me so much he posted on every section. Wonder if it's the
foamer from Toledo.

Name: 
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 30 October 2010

DON'T TAKE ANY JOB AT THE COAL PIER IN BALTIMORE. IT IS A FILTHY
HOSTILE WORK ENVIRONMENT. SAFETY IS A JOKE THERE. NO UNION
REPRESENTATION EITHER. YOU ARE WATCHED CONSTANTLY WITH VIDEO CAMERAS,
EVEN WHEN YOU ARE EATING YOUR LUNCH. EQUIPMENT OPERATOR SOUNDS GOOD BUT
IT'S NOT WHAT YOU THINK. YOU WILL BE IN A GIANT MACHINE ON TOP OF A
STUPID COAL PILE ON A LOUZY NIGHT SHIFT. THE COAL PILES ARE AS TALL AS
A TEN STORY BUILDING. IT'S VERY DANGEROUS AND DEFINITELY NOT WORTH THE
CHUMP CHANGE THEY WILL BE PAYING YOU. THERE IS NO SHIFT DIFFERENTIAL.
YOU WILL NEVER HAVE A WEEKEND OFF, AND WILL WORK EVERY HOLIDAY. YOU ARE
FORCED TO PAY $200 A MONTH FOR HEALTH INSURANCE. THEY LIKE IT IF YOU
WILL WORK 16 HOUR SHIFTS. SEE THE LOCAL DRUG DEALER THERE, SO YOU CAN
GET THE PILLS YOU'LL NEED TO STAY AWAKE. THERE IS A JERK ON NIGHT
SHIFT THAT YOU WILL HAVE TO PUT UP WITH. HE IS A SUPERVISOR WHO GOT HIS
DEGREE FROM THE INTERNET. HE LIKES TO BRAG ABOUT GETTING PEOPLE WROTE
UP. HE'S A PUNK WHO SHOULD HAVE HIS ASS KICKED. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT
ANY OTHER CSX SHOPS, BUT I CAN TELL YOU TO STEER CLEAR OF THE COAL
PIER. IF YOU DO INTERVIEW WITH THEM, ASK HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE QUIT IN
THE LAST YEAR. NOBODY STAYS THERE. I'VE ONLY TOUCHED ON A FEW THINGS
HERE. IT'S ONLY THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG.

Name: 
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 30 October 2010

Hey RRJ, just wanted to say fuck you, you jag off, its the oldheads like
you that sold everyone out, thats made everyones job harder! You
dicksheads sold the fireman, flagman, headman. You rant about everyone
bitching on here, how many times you switch by yourself and do
industries by yourself cocksucker! Hell even the oldheads at barr yard
sold their blankable switchman rights for $100,000.00 a piece last
year, and fucked every guy below them, Gen. chairman John Lesniewski
worked out that deal for his buddys, oh, and they put a no furlough
clause in there, the next week they started furloughing, so you and
every other sell out can take a flying fucking leap! Csx paid $2.6
million dollars to the 26 oldhead switchman last year! Yet us non
protected guys couldnt even get our lunches paid! Then these same
oldheads, who we used to let sleep and watch movies on the second unit,
for letting us be the foreman, have the gall, after they sold out to ask
for a line up coming the yard, yea heres you line up cocksucker, GET
FUCKED AND LINE YOU OWN SWITCHES, YOU DIDNT DO SHIT FOR OVER 10 YEARS
ON THAT SECOND UNIT!  So in conclusion RRJ, GO FUCK YOURSELF YOU CRUSTY
OLD BASTARD, I HOPE YOU DONT COLLECT RR LONG!

Name: NoMo
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 30 October 2010

Hey Hotty:

If you're as horny as you say you are, he'll probably stay on the
road to get some rest. Get a big rubber dick and a case full of
batteries!

Name: hottytotty
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Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 1-10 years
Posted: 30 October 2010

I am a conductors girlfriend. does anyone have any advice or tips for me
on making this relationship work. so far I am feeling like i am waaaay
too rowdy for lovins to only get them every few days. input?

Name: 
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 28 October 2010

I AM CONSIDERING TAKING A EQUIPMENT OPERATOR POSITION IN BALTIMORE AT
THE COAL PIERS.CAN ANYBODY FILL ME IN ON WHETHER IT IS WORTH MY TIME TO
ACCEPT THIS OFFER?

Name: EX CSX T&E
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Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 28 October 2010

Does anyone know what Tom Wolfe is doing? And has he paid for his
"sins" and coverups as a manager?

Name: doctor white
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 27 October 2010

Where do we start ! Safety ; everyone wants to go home the same they
came to work. working road switcher jobs and yard jobs with excessive
walking and and protecting shove moves is unsafe for one man. All the
while trying to keep your work order scores on top of the mark so the
trainmaster want get his rear end eat out.The railroad wants there cake
& eat it to, there is to much work for one man to do while keeping your
scope set on safety. The amount of work they want you to do is not
within the safe limits of what one man can accomplish. I am a short
timer and have seen many changes in my 34yrs of service. I can only
hope that my railroad brothers & sisters can adhere to these
unrealistic changes that the railroad is determined to shove down there
throats. Code of etchics this word is used very often by the railroad,
They do not begin to know the meaning of the word. Trainmasters , road
foreman of engines, crew callers, and the list goes on & on. Rudeness -
harassment - intimidation - all are parts of life on the CSX RAILROAD.
Marcus Calhoun Mcant is a fine example of a cat with 9 lifes. All of
the conflicks this man has been involved in brought on by his rude -
raccist- ignorant remarks and actions and this man still has a job with
good old C.S.X. I could just PUKE.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 24 October 2010

I would just like to say I am celebrating my 2nd year being OUT OF THIS
CRAP HOLE!!!  I worked at the Pentagon my first year out and now work
for the state of Minnesota.  I truely enjoyed the work while I was at
CSX (my safety record speaks for itself). However, I saw the future and
what it has become (and I was only there for 4 years.  God knows the
changes the old timers have seen).  I enjoyed the work and had fun
doing the job.  But the politics became way too much.  Some people
getting favortism more than others (example: a man, sorry, I mean a
drug dealer has 47 missed calls within half of a year.  YES, 6 months).
 He was never taken out of service until a new Superintendant came in
(by the way, we went through 3 Superintendant's the "4" years I was
there).  Oh, and by the way, this other crew derailed equipment (their
fault) and went to investigation.  Only to leave INVESTIGATION with two
tickets to the Orioles game that night!!!  Yeah, that WANNA-BE
Superintendant is no longer with us, nor is the train crew who probably
thought they just got a night in Beverley Hill's with just two tickets
to the Orioles game!!!LMAO  By the way, they are no longer with CSX
Baltimore division either.  Back to my subject at hand, this "47
missed call" guy happened to be the nephew or cousin of a mentor for
all new hires in Baltimore. The mentor was demoted back to train
service and his "47 missed call" family member was fired.  Let alone
this POC had a horrible safety record!!!  NOW, I heard there is ANOTHER
Superintendant in Baltimore (this is number 4 ladies and gentleman in 6
years)!!

My point being this, when I signed my application for CSX, I am pretty
sure (somebody tell me if I am wrong) it said "EQUALL OPPORTUNITY
EMPLOYER".  Mr. Ward (or Mr. VP or whoever), you need to make your way
to Baltimore and show them how this is ACTUALLY PRACTICED!!!  Because
GOD KNOWS the union officials are not doing it!!  Oh sorry, they are
already in your left hand pocket!!  All the more reason I am up here,
behind a desk, making DAMN NEAR twice as much as I was making as a
conductor..LOL  However, I loved what I did and have respect for the
men and woman who still do it (since I was once in their position).With
that being said, write this down Michael Ward (and every other demon in
your regime)!!  "The way you treat your people is the work ethic you
get in return"!!!!!  You should remember this line Michael!!!  You
might not have such a bad record for derailments, injuries, etc..  
Have a safe CSX day!!;0);0);0)  For the rest of the hard working Men
and Woman in train service, good luck with your careers.  Keep it on
the rails!!

Name: 
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 24 October 2010

Alabama T&E.  You sound like a little, sleazy, slimefilled, greaseball. 
What is it you're trying to accomplish?

And, do you really have to post it in all the threads?  It just proves
you're also illiterate.

Name: Alabama T&E
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Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 23 October 2010

You said the Touchstone Trainmaster in Alabama vanished and she was
seeing T.E. Miller? Is she still employed or did she leave due to the
affair?

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 20 October 2010

Goober:

Let me say this. I know an individual who is currently serving a
sentence in a Federal Prison. He's there because the Feds were able to
trace the cash he used back to his account.

Remember that after 9/11 every cash transaction of $10,000.00 and over
is detailed and has to pass though a clearinghouse. The moral
of this story is, regardless of how many middlemen you use, if you're
going to buy influence do it in installments or on the layaway plan!
Those serial numbers on the bills just aren't there to play poker
with.

Apparently the Feds take cash transactions very seriously.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 October 2010

NOMO,
You doubt that CASH was used because it is to easily traced. Where in
the world did you learn that.
 Most times you do post really good thoughts, this must have been a
brain fart.

RRJ I never asked you if you understood Arbitration. Your statement of
why bother with Arb, drew my reply. I see that you still do not
understand. Oh well I tried.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 October 2010

NOMO,
You doubt that CASH was used because it is to easily traced. Where in
the world did you learn that.
 Most times you do post really good thoughts, this must have been a
brain fart.

RRJ I never asked you if you understood Arbitration. Your statement of
why bother with Arb, drew my reply. I see that you still do not
understand. Oh well I tried.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 October 2010

Hey Friend:

He doesn't work for CSX, PTI employs him. Here's a link to their web
site:

       http://www.professionaltransportationinc.com/

You should contact them with your concerns and notify the Terminal
Superintendent at Cumberland.

If he's dealing out of a company vehicle and is caught, the van could
be confiscated and any one in the van at the time might find themselves
in deep doo doo.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 19 October 2010

You have a driver named Ralph W. Layman, who uses your van (PTI)to do
his drug deals. He is in Cumberland Maryland. He and his wife are heavy
into drugs and drug dealing. I am amazed that someone like this is
allowed to work for your company. He laughed when he was not drug
tested. This man and his wife does any kind of pill they can get their
hands on, they sell their child's medications, they use heroine,
cocaine, marijuana, you name it they will do it or sell it. Ralph W.
Layman said that he can get away with anything at your company because
you are all very stupid. He said all he has to do is shave all his hair
off and you will find nothing. Go back a few years on this man and you
will see, that he has taken more drugs and bought and sold more drugs
than the pharmacy ever had. It is deplorable that you allow someone
like this to drive your people. They deserve to be safe, not to be
hauled around by a drug user and a drug dealer.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 October 2010

Hey Lloyd:

Speaking from experience and after reading a number of awards handed
down over the last 7 or 8 years; I'm convinced that some of the
arbitrators are receiving considerations from the carriers in return
for favorable rulings. 

You would think the law of averages would apply here...in other words
for every award made in favor of the carrier an equal number of awards
would be made in favor of the employees. If you look closely enough,
some of the arbs hand down 75% of the awards to the carriers.

The considerations could range from meals to vacations to promises of
additional business for their firms. I doubt cash would be involved,
it's too easily traced.

We all know the unions and carriers have become too close...in some
cases sharing office spaces and engaging in activities that may
interfere with the union officials better judgement. It's not
unreasonable to assume the same type of behavior occurs between the
arbs, the union and the carriers. As you know, the union and carrier
have to agree on the selection of the arbitrator. I believe some of the
awards are decide prior to the hearing and the evidence is manipulated
to justify the arbs award...collusion.

Just over ten years...better get some "Just for Men"! In the not too
distant future, 10 years of service will qualify you as "Old Heads".

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 19 October 2010

Lloyd

If you've gotten past the threat of furloughs you're pretty much an
oldhead. Working year round is an accomplishment. Like I stated it's
not an age issue it's about seniority. If you hired out 10 years ago
you caught the tail end of when CSX was a nicer place to work. It
won't be long before my generation is retired not many of us left.
Your generation those hired between 6-15 years ago got a bigger shaft
then those hiring out today. Most of you paid money to those Choo-Choo
U's. I read on railroad.net there's a group that's trying to find
AMDG trying to sue to recoup their money seems the owners took their
tuition then closed shop and split. I find it amazing some schools are
still in operation dunning for business still claiming 95% of their
students get rail jobs.

Name: Lloyd
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years
Posted: 19 October 2010

RRJ I wouldn't say having a little over 10 years out here qualifies me
as an oldhead.  I'm one of those people who falls right in the middle
of the new and the old.  Thats why I can see both sides of every gripe
when it comes to this place.  

Nomo- Whatever arbitrator(s) ruled in favor with those very few..and I
do mean few exceptions in the new contract had to have special benefits
to agree to something that the workers don't want.  These guys should
be held to the fire for voting in something that NO ONE wants. Every
good thing I've read about this new contract has one or more
exceptions and if you just screw up a little, you will lose your stock
benefit, ddo, or whatever else they want to give but take away if you
aren't their robot for 6 weeks straight.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 18 October 2010

Hey RRJ:

I know all about arbitrators...no black or white just shades of grey!

Oh, did I mention green!

Name: UTU hater
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 18 October 2010

Well the good news is these GC are now fucked.  They all just lost their
committees and will all be combined into one.  The L & N does get to
laugh about that along with their New York Dock protection.

The thing is what now?  This agreement means that CSX can do wtf ever
they want.  Example being in Mobile where NOMO's son still works, they
have a 13/2 bi weekly (yes I know 13 and 2 is `15 but that is still what
they call it) conductors board that pays 2644 a half.  That is a local
agreement that CSX can now just throw in the garabage.  Nothing to keep
them from putting them in a brakemans board that pays 1710 a half if I
am not mistaken.  Thanks again to John Hancock SCL general chairman.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 18 October 2010

NoMo

You never know how an arbitrator is going to rule. I know the trainmen
on the C&O when they recieved their $1000 signing bonuses this past
summer bitched about the taxes. They'll find out those productivity
bonuses are taxed at a higher rate. It's not considered earned income.
$$$$ normally is the blinding factor. At least the first BLET SSA only
went for about a year and a half before the next round on an extention.
I voted against both. A 6th week vacation was nice but not worth giving
up better pay raises for a bonus system.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 18 October 2010

Hey Lloyd:

I've always believed that it's in employee's best interest to be a
member of the Union that holds the controlling contract. However, under
these circumstances I would change my affiliation in protest
of the UTU's handling of this matter. The unions understand money and
the dues from membership generate the money. Fewer members means less
money, which in turn will get their attention.

I have always felt a system wide contract would be in everyone's
best interest, the carrier, union and employees...a contract agreed to
by all parties involved and implemented with all parties blessings. The
UTU/CSX SSA is not that agreement. Accordingly, the UTU and the affected
properties GC must be held accountable.

The only left to the membership is where their dues go, if it were me,
my dues would be moving to the BLEt!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 18 October 2010

Lloyd

If you have between 10-20 years that makes you one of the oldheads.
Welcome to the club. I'm sure the oldheads aren't responsible for
voting it in. Like the BLET SSA those with very little time looked at
signing bonuses and productivity bonuses instead of the entire package.
There aren't enough 30+ year veterans left to pass anything especially
over a 6th week vacation. You'll just have to come to grips that your
now an oldhead. It sneeks up on you. I became a member of that club in
1986 thru retirements and I was only 32 at the time. It isn't a matter
of age it's seniority. With 10-20 years I think you fit in that
catagory.

Name: Lloyd
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years
Posted: 17 October 2010

Wow, what a fkn joke.  Is this what we pay our dues for?  We turn this
contract down and we get it stuffed right back down our throats for 4
pages of revisions?  Oh how you worked so hard for us UTU.  I mean come
on, is that all our union can do?  One of the four things was a 6th week
of vacation after 30 years...just goes to show you how many old heads
are running this union today and how many people probably got their
pockets stuffed.  I understand there are a few...and I do mean a few
positive things that come out of this new contract, but not any that
make me think things could possibly get better out here.  This is a
damn travesty if I ever saw one.  I guess the company gets there way
again and we all just have to sit back and take it.  I suggest everyone
read this new contract long and hard because the company just got one
over on us big time.

Name: UTU hater
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 17 October 2010

http://utu974.com/Cram_Down_Arbitration.pdf

Only four pages.  Wow.  Just wow.

Name: UTU hater
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 17 October 2010

Well surprise surprise we got the SSA forced on us.  It is offical.  At
least the L & N will get New York Dock protection, the C & O, SCL, and
A & WP do not.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 October 2010

Hey HTL:

I was beginning to get concerned...glad to hear you're alive and
kicking (maybe just not quite as high)

Arrived in FL...let the debauchery begin. If the Blue Hairs are more
than you can handle, you can always call Goober or RRJ. Now that he's
retired I'm sure he wouldn't mind lending a helping hand.

I agree, don't worry about those pesky leaves...pretty soon they will
all be covered up by snow. Dethatching your yard, what's left of it
anyway, will give you and the Mrs. something to do together next
Spring.

Actually, I thought about Pluggie the other day. I guess I to was
wondering what happened to some of the old posters from the early days.
This place just isn't the same without them. In fact, it's rather
obtuse...well, maybe nothing has really changed!

I don't want to hold up the Shuffleboard game or delay the Early Bird
Special so enjoy yourself and stay in touch...especially if you get
lucky with a Blue Hair...I understand they like younger men and are
called Cougars!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 17 October 2010

Pop's

I was officially retired in April. Getting use to it. Definitely
keeping busy. I got a call from a friend down at Biketoberfest in
Dayton he said it's gotten big almost like Bike week. Maybe you'll
run in to Goober he bought a BMW. Have fun.

Name: htlong
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 October 2010

well hello Nomo!!!!!
yes its that time of year again.  I just arrived in Fl. and I am
enjoying the 80 degree weather,I was going to wait to rake leaves
but.......screw the leaves! I'm riding up to Biketoberfest
today.......Ill check back with you next spring......
sonny,didn't you retire? or are you still plugging away?
speaking about plugging ,has anyone heard from my Ole pal plug door?
last I heard from him he was going to be some kind of a RR "ofishel"
well I am going to go pack the old saddle bags and take off for
Daytona!

Name: Mad Man
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 30+ years
Posted: 16 October 2010

I some what agree with what's being said! I have been quite a few
company trials and know first hands it's a joke, that's why it's
called a Kangaroo Court! I have been talked into signing waivers by
Union Reps who I guess always look for a way out quickly instead of
facing a verdict that's already made before the trial or "Hearing"
even starts.

I have buddies that work with different roads and are basically the
same shit there too. The main thing has me thinking is that one of them
was terminated under some BS which I could tell was retalitory but sugar
coated as another Charge. I'm glad to just hear that he has a Federal
Mediator Hearing coming in the next couple of months, this seems to be
the only hope that any employee has for the reverse of a company's
biased decisions. I think if it wasn't for them alot of people would
be gone without a fair chance of being heard!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 16 October 2010

Goob

I still feel why go thru the motions if someone hates it? I don't know
what you don't get. You asked if I understood arbitration. If someone
is willing to go the distance why sabatoge it. The union doesn't have
to go thru the process if the person doesn't want the job. This person
isn't hiding their identity on the website. It's a waste of time.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 October 2010

To RRJ. 
You are dancing once again. Last post concerning your point of not
creating waves before the hearing. Has nothing to do with your post of
Why go thru arbitration?

Summing up your post is why bother, he hates this place, and now he has
a way out. How in the world can you connect these two?

Got me

Name: Mick
E-mail: 
Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years
Posted: 14 October 2010

I read this site once a year for a few laughs.  Everyone sounds like a
bunch of whimpering puppy dogs. We have our way with you bumpkins
regardless of how much you complain on this spineless site.  Why do you
think you work for the CSX RR in the first place.   Ever really thought
about how or why YOU were picked??  Of course you didn't. YOu got
offered a job, and jumped. Dont be so naive.  We look for submissive
ass kissers.  Helps to brown nose on command, too. CSX will hire a
yellow belly weak kneed suck-up befor they hire anyone else. We want
people whose only response is "yes sir"  and "right away sir" -
just like the military.  So, stop your whining and get with the
program.   Have a safe day.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 October 2010

SAFETY / OSHA - 06/02/10
OSHA finds CSX Transportation Inc. retaliated against veteran New York
dispatcher who reported safety concerns
A whistleblower investigation by the U.S. Department of Labor's
Occupational Safety and Health Administration has found that CSX
Transportation Inc. retaliated against a veteran employee in its
Selkirk, N.Y., dispatch office who repeatedly reported safety concerns
to his managers, the Federal Railroad Administration and OSHA.

"Retaliating against an employee who raises safety concerns is
completely unacceptable and will not be tolerated," said Robert
Kulick, OSHA's regional administrator in New York. "If workers are
intimidated into remaining silent, that silence carries an ominous
price as hazards may go unreported and thereby place the safety of
railway workers and the public at risk."

The worker filed a complaint with OSHA in early 2009 after CSX
disciplined him in December 2008. OSHA's investigation found merit to
the complaint. As a result, OSHA has ordered the railroad to rescind
disciplinary action against the worker and pay him $5,000 in punitive
damages.

The order also requires CSX to expunge the worker's personnel record
of any derogatory reference to his exercising his rights under the
Federal Railroad Safety Act, permanently post a notice of employee
whistleblower rights where CSX employees will see them, and provide
those employees with a fact sheet and other information about their
whistleblower rights under the FRSA.

CSX and the complainant have 30 days from receipt of the findings to
file an appeal with the Labor Department's Office of Administrative
Law Judges. Under the FRSA, employees of a railroad carrier and its
contractors and subcontractors are protected against retaliation for
reporting on-the-job injuries as well as reporting certain safety and
security violations and cooperating with investigations by OSHA and
other regulatory agencies.

Visit our News Library to read more news stories.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 13 October 2010

Goob

I know about arbitration. I had a friend back in the late '80s got
fired went to arb won got the job & backtime then quit in less than 6
months. He now works on a railroad in the midwest. My point was it's
not very smart to create waves before the hearing.

Name: The Banker
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 12 October 2010

A Utility man was maimed at the Cumberland MD Terminal in the West Hump
class yard. Cindy Sanborn's chickens have come home to roost.
Cumberland boasted in Baltimore Division newsletters that they have
only had one Human Factor Derailment this year. An obvious lie but
since CSX is having too many HF Derailments reported; Ray & Keith's
dog & pony show is applauded. Do the lies & falsification of company
records matter to Michael Ward? Cindy's lack of integrity is putting
the safety of employees, the community of Cumberland, & CSX's
reputation at risk.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 12 October 2010

RRJ,
Come on man you are a lot smarter than your last post. You must have
missed your morning Coffee.

Arb is all about who wins and who loses. Heck if he wins his job back
he could still walk, and collect a few, or work for a while and get
fired. Either way CSX would be on notice, and very careful.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 12 October 2010

CSX-Corruption site administrator on the mainpage states he was
terminated but is waiting on an arbitrator to rule if he can go back to
work. Why go through arbitration if someone hates the place that much?
Getting terminated is definitely a way out. If he wants to continue
railroading shortlines would be the way to go. I don't think any class
1 would hire him. Putting up a anti-CSX website isn't going to help his
case it's darn right stupid. As I thought another disgruntled employee.


CSX Blow

Every corporation spends money lobbying or contribute to a political
campaign fund. Some give money to both candidates in a political race.
It was posted on the BLET website a week or so ago that every class 1
railroad spent money on lobbying some spent a lot more than CSX. Why
should CSX be any different? Or, be critised for it. The money you
state you've not been paid most likely is in claims. I'm retired but
have not yet resigned from CSX and have at least $6000 in claims yet to
be paid. It's part of the game that has been going on for decades. You
shouldn't bank on claims. If they aren't paid your union GC could of
bargained them away which happens quite frequently. Who's the real
culprit?

Name: CSX Blows
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 10 October 2010

Well, since RRJ is the only one who stepped up to the plate here to
comment on the CSX-Corruption website I feel I need to add my thoughts
on this.
  I had read through the site and took note of everything the webmaster
had to say. Since I like to look at the glass half empty and also half
full. I really have to give this individual credit for having the moxie
to step up and share his experiences. 
  After reading everything I am under the assumption that this
individual is no longer employed with CSX so therefore his employment
with this bogus company would not be hindered. 
  I however am not condoning the "CSX Racisim" section due to the
fact that everywhere you go racisim is just part of daily life in the
real world. Also, like RRJ said, this instance he talked about was not
reported so therefore all it is would be "hear-say"! 
  I will support that site in whatever way possible just for the fact
that we need more people like him that has the intuition to let others
know just how corrupt CSX is. 
  I for one am tired of how my pay is declined on a regular basis. They
try to cut corners wherever possible but will throw out Millions of
dollars for campain contributions. Something like this does not sit
well with me. And if you're an emplyee of this company, it should not
sit well with you either!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 October 2010

Conclude what you will but it looks like every fatality will be blamed
on cell phones.

My sympathy to Mr. Weaver's family and friends.


 http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2010/10/04/bnsf-worker/


The posting on the UTU web site:


 http://www.utu.org/worksite/detail_news.cfm?ArticleID=53091

Name: slack action
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 08 October 2010

Nomo:  I happened to be in the Op Center when the accident occurred.  It
was on the old AG desk.  Larry " Slick" Miles was the dispr.  He never
was the same after that happened.  He got a disability and moved to Las
Vegas...

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 October 2010

Hey Slack:

Yeah your right...I don't know why I thought it was yesterday except I
ran into a young woman who survived the accident and said she was here
to remember all that didn't make. I must have assumed it was the
anniversary.

Name: slack action
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 08 October 2010

The derailment was also on Sept 22....man I can't wait until
retirement...

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 October 2010

Sorry about the previous post...yesterday was the 6th not the 22nd,
Don't know what I was thinking about unless it was the number of 
Frosties I drank during the weekly AFL (After Five League) meeting!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 07 October 2010

Today, Oct. 22Nd is the 17Th anniversary of the deadliest train accident
in American history. There is a lot to be learned from the
incident...like don't ever believe a signal, there is a lot that can
happen in between!

   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_Big_Bayou_Canot_train_wreck

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 07 October 2010

I went to the CSX-Corruption site. There are ignorant racist people
everywhere not just on CSX. This site CSX-Sucks had to defend it's
right to excist. Don't you think CSX will take on this new site? The
story posted about an incident in Abbeville, SC about a clerks racist
comment is hear-say because nothing was reported to an official by the
conductor, engineer, or conductor trainee. CSX does have the CSX Ethics
hotline that one could of reported this infraction without giving their
name. Was that done? No. This could be considered slander because no
action was taken at the time. There are no records of the incident. A
timeticket with someones name on it doesn't mean anything. If a CSX
employee started this site they better read their operating rule book
especially rules GR-2A, GR-12, GR-13. You might think you are protected
under the 1st Amendment rights but to defend the site would require
identifying oneself. That could lead to termination. If the
administrator has the convictions to defend their site at any cost I
applaude their actions. If they don't I'd be shutting it down.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 07 October 2010

New site with new forums dedicated to CSX.  Updated content!
Visit www.csx-corruption.com and/or enter the forums!  We need your
stories to give this company the attention it deserves.

 www.csx-corruption.com

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 1-10 years
Posted: 05 October 2010

You know, i sit and read post from employees and non-employees on this
web site and laugh.  All of you just sit here and complain.  If you
don't like the way things are, CHANGE THEM.  Go to school, get
educated, get promoted, and fix the problems.  90% of management in CSX
came from the ranks (Union).  Stop complaining get off your ass and do
something about it.  If you just complain about the the problems and
don't try to help, means your the main part of the problem.  

Your right, not all management should be in management.  Not all
managers are good managers.  Then again, not all employees should be
employees.  Not all people can work for the railroad.  Most railroaders
will tell you this is not the easiest job in the world.  If you can't
handle the job, leave.

Those who complain, and don't step up, need to get out of the way and
let others step up.  Those who step up, need not to complain and fix
the problems, or get out of the way and let others step up.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 04 October 2010

I dont think he was going to give you the money RRJ.  Ketchup ...mustard

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 04 October 2010

Tenderfoot did not know they were called divisions....Tenderfoot want to
thank big bear for leading tenderfoot down the right path..Tenderfoot
most grateful

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 04 October 2010

Hey, I'll take any money from a UTU local. Call me what you want as
long as the check is good. Little do you know tenderfoot in the BLE
there called divisions not locals. Yes, I left out the "T" for
trainmen never liked it when it was included. That was the biggest
problem with rail unions when the UTU tried to raid the BLE. It left
the door wide open for the railroads to become what they are today
towards their employees. You can insult me all you want it's good for
a laugh which everyone needs a good laugh. It's almost Christmas an
I'll be happy to grant your wish and tell you all my railroad stories
then right now I've got things to do. Got to remember I'm retired an
I can do anything I want no more phone calls from CMC.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 03 October 2010

To all those that are members of RRJ's local....YOUR WELCOME! Happy to
help.  Please make checks payable to RRJISANIDIOT

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 03 October 2010

Naw, just give me a report tell me how you've straightened it all out.
I've got confidence that with the special abilities that you possess
with having been required to ride the short bus to school for 12 years
it's in good hands.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 03 October 2010

UM..does this mean your not coming to the next union meeting?

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 03 October 2010

Haha!! No, I'll leave the union up to you. Let's see what you can
accomplish besides bitching and passing the buck on to someone else.
Majority of my time on the railroad went pretty good claims were paid
no harrassment from management ect...I could give a crap how you're
treated because it doesn't concern me anymore. Just keep paying into
railroad retirement. I'll continue to draw a check every month. CSX
must be doing something right my stock investment has increased 38.45%
over the past year. I like CSX's management style just fine. Now shut
the computer down and get your lazy arse to work. Dumb schidt!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 03 October 2010

Hahaha  RRJ...your so funny...and stupid.  Anyways, will you tell us
some more stories about how it was in your day or how its a railroad
and things will never change because thats the way it has always been
done. Wait a minute... I want to hear the one about how you and your
generation worked together to create the positive, productive and
successful working environment we have today.  You know RRJ, we could
really use a guy like you at the union meetings because with your
knowledge and leadership skills we could really make a difference. Who
know's what we could could accomplish?!!! What do you say??

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 03 October 2010

cond 1-10

Didn't your momma give you enough attention when you were young? She
definitely didn't give you any manners.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 02 October 2010

Hey Other:

Explain then if you will, Tony Ingram's, Danny Spencer's, Tom
Wolfe's or Wes Knick's behavior, just to name a few. While you're at
it explain why CSX is cramming the UTU/CSX SSA down the throats of
properties that soundly voted it down.

The way a company is run is a direct reflection of it's leadership.
I don't think you'll find a lot of support for your assessment on
this site!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 30+ years
Posted: 02 October 2010

The Story Dave posted in 2004 is not accurate. I would say maybe Dave
has a little trouble with the truth. I know for a fact Mike Spoores and
his managers reqested nothing from Dave. I do Know Dave quit his job
with CSX then when the other job did not work out he tried to get back
his old job with CSX. When he could not this is when he started on the
path of blaming others for his short comings, trying to find a path for
his mistakes when he should have looked in the mirror. 

I also know that we all will have to answer for our life and what we
did in it. Hopefully we all realize that before it is to late to make
up for the mistakes we all have made.

CSX is a good company to work for it does believe in ethical behavior
by all its employees from the top down. CSX always puts the customers
needs first.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 02 October 2010

RRJ --you can't even spell "advice".  Where do you get your sound
financial investment information? Please share...

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 30 September 2010

BB&T is just one most analysts still rate CSX & NS as a buy. BB&T still
rates them as a "hold". Most investment firms have a set sell price
apparently BB&T's must of been around %55 a share. Some market analyst
are projecting CSX stock to hit $72 a share. Market experts are nothing
but glorified fortune tellers they haven't a clue. If I listened to
their advise my investments would be non-excistent. Coal is a major
market for all class 1 railroads.

Name: AlabamaT&E
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 29 September 2010

I have heard the my supervisor L. Touchstone has strayed away from her
husband before with different men. Is she still married?

Name: Ex CSX
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 29 September 2010

Brian Stussie was arrested for DUI/DWI? Is he still working? Don't most
T&E people that he is an officer for get fired for this?

He is the pretty boy's mug shot.
http://southcentralregionaljail.info/?BookingID=2784018

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 29 September 2010

Here comes big lay-offs by halloween boys and girls!

BB&T Capital Markets analyst John Mims this morning reduced his ratings
on both CSX (CSX) and Norfolk Southern (NSC) to Hold from Buy, citing
concerns that the coal market could be weaker than previously expected.
He notes that both companies generate about 30% of revenue from
transporting coal.

“We believe that coal commentary will be increasingly bearish during
the Q3 earnings season,” he writes, and that both NSC and CSX could
come under significant near0-term pressure if guidance on eastern
utility and metallurgical coal is revised downward.  Mims adds that he
isn’t making a call here on Q3 earnings, but instead says the more
bearish stance is “a reflection of our belief that utility stockpiles
in the East (particularly the Southeast) will not burn down as fast as
the consensus view,” and that coal exports to Asia will slow in the
near-term.

Nonetheless, both stocks are trading higher in today’s strong market
rally:

CSX is up $1.52, or 2.8%, to $55.91.
NSC is up $1.78, or 3.1%, to $59.77.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 29 September 2010

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Railroad operator CSX Corp. spent $1.16 million
lobbying the U.S. government in the second quarter on issues including
federal transportation spending and antitrust enforcement.

The company spent $1.12 million in the previous quarter, and it spent
$1.5 million in the second quarter of 2009.

CSX lobbied on bills covering spending for freight, passenger and
high-speed rail and on a resolution calling for better security against
terrorist attacks aimed at rail and mass transit lines. It also lobbied
on railroad antitrust issues and corridors for inter-suburban commuter
rail service, according to a July 19 filing with Congress.

Besides Congress, the Jacksonville, Fla., company lobbied the
Transportation, Defense, Energy and Homeland Security departments, the
Environmental Protection Agency and the Office of Management and Budget

Name: KYLE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 28 September 2010

To rrj, I did know a trainman who had the postion of chief DI and he
kept his trainman seniority as he did come back into t&e 2 yrs before
he retired with all seniority kept, Now that was 10 yrs ago and that
might have changed, I also knew a few who went into managment,Ie, TM &
RFE and they also kept thier t&e seniority and most gave that up due to
being transfered all over the system plus a few other reasons i will not
mention, I even knew of a engineer who was a BOR man and he gave that up
too and he also kept his seniority rights, So indeed yes if they need
peeps in other depts they will take you before they hire someone off
the street,IE rr experience.

I also found out when i was furloughed a few times that when i would
applie for other jobs, non rr, They would not hire me as they knew that
when the rr would call me back that i would run right back to the rr as
most would do.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 September 2010

There's other crafts to work for on the railroad. If a person is tired
of T&E road life or working a 24/7 road extraboard they can apply to
one of the other crafts. They just need to get on the Gateway fill out
an application. I know a few who recently switched over to train
dispatcher and yardmaster positions. The only thing a person might lose
is seniority. In some situations like yardmaster I do believe it's not
required to give up T&E seniority not sure about a train dispatcher.
Other crafts like carmen, trackmen, clerk, signalmen ect...it would be
required to give it up. Switching over the credits for retirement stay
the same.

Name: KYLE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 28 September 2010

The thing many do not know is the many peeps who do work for class 1
rr,s do have reg hours with 2 reg days off, Its mostly the peeps who
are in T&E that work the 24-7 on call thing.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 26 September 2010

It's a railroad. What did you expect? Is it worth it? It damn sure is
when you reach retirement age. Besides most freight pools have rest
days if your seniority allows it you could have every other weekend
off. Railroad is not for everyone never has been never will be.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 25 September 2010

Is giving up practically every weekend for the next thirty years worth
it?  Nope.

Name: Village Idiot
E-mail: iluvnonrrwork.com
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 24 September 2010

RIP TOM OLIPHANT

You have not been forgotten.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 22 September 2010

Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiit:

            http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/81103313/

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 September 2010

Web Master
Thanks for the link.
I called the Investigator In Charge this morning to inform him of CSX
having the same problems, but with a different manufacturer.

Name: hate my shop
E-mail: 
Employed as: Engine repair, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 16 September 2010

After all I went through in school about saftey. I started my job and
soon found out it was a joke.  Its a great show of do as I say not as I
do.  Plus they provide all the tools for the job they said but finding
them was the hard part.  Not one tool set was full they all were
missing somthing. Then they wanted me to fix things and order parts but
I didnt know who they used for what parts and I didnt have a company
credit card so how was I to get anything.  Plus I didnt have much to
say to anyone Iam not a sports fan thats all they talked about on their
2hr lunch break.  Plus they fill out job breafing forms everyday and
never would tell me what was going to be done for the day. I was kept
in the dark.  If I asked I was always told I will get back to you they
never did or it was just clean the shop but with all the used broken
parts in it how do you know what to save and toss out ?  I loved the
benifits and pay but hated the shop and the others I work with.  I
would love to transfer to track dept so I could travel and get out of
this shop before I get stuck at this place or let go for not fitting
into their click.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 September 2010

Kyle,
There was never a Brotherhood of railroad trainmen and conductors. Most
of the conductors belonged to the BRT, however some belonged to the BRC,
or Brotherhood of RR conductors. This comment follows the same thought
process as the elimination of the fireman by the UTU. At the time arb
282 (1964) hit there was no UTU.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 14 September 2010

W

Why doesn't your BLET division work on getting rest days for freight
pools? That's up to the members not the general committee or the
national under the BLET SSA your entitled to it. Seems your playing the
wrong blame game. Some places engineers felt rest days would hamper
their earning power to ignorant to realise they were voluntary not
mandatory. Engineers were entitled to rest days before the SSA because
of greed they opted out. The BLET SSA provides for rest days to be
turned off plus it allows for early mark offs and late mark ups. Where
did you think the UTU got the idea from in their SSA from the BLET. Try
going to a union meeting bring it up then make a motion bring someone to
second it that way at the next months meeting it can be voted on. Try
reading the agreements.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 13 September 2010

Hey Kyle:

No more than the unions do for you today, with an open shop at least
you would save $100/month...and the dead weight the carriers have to
deal with would either tighten up or be gone.

If the carriers showed their asses, a case of the box car flu would 
effect them and there would be nothing they or the Gov't could do to 
end it.

Work rules might change but nothing drastic...wages would be an issue,
but the unions haven't exactly helped on that front over the last 10
years...it wouldn't be in the carriers' best interest to
reduce them. Pipe could be laid and they wouldn't be able to fall back
on the unions to protect them.

Use to be the unions were there to protect their members...today they
protect the carriers!

Name: W
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 13 September 2010

Hey there UTU haters.  I wonder why it is the Engineer's Freight pool
assignments don't have assigned rest days like the Conductors?
As you guys may know the Conductors pools have rest days that can be
turned off or on depending on whether or not the employee wants to
observe his/her rest day.  


   Article 45-Off Days, Paragraph "A" of the BLET agreement  States
" All pool assignments will have at least one (1)assigned mandatory
rest day per week or two (2) mandatory rest days bi-weekly."  It sure
seems to me that with the current CSX availability policy the BLET
would enforce this article of the agreement and provide it's members
with some planned time off. If there are Engineer's off on rest days,
CSX would ahve to increase there boards to cover these vacancies. 
Kinda seems as though the BLET is doing exactly what the carrier wants.
 This doen'nt really surprise me much with the past history of the BLE
local chariman's at my terminal.

Name: KYLE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 12 September 2010

When i hired on at age 18 i used to hear a lot of the old heads talk
about when it was the brotherhood of railroad trainmen & conductors
union and how back then the union would fight like hell for the men and
all that changed when it became the U.T.U. and i can see it myself that
the u.t.u. is now in bed with the company officials, What we really
need is OPEN SHOP union, you would then see how fast the union would
start caring for the men, Did you know with CLOSED SHOP you can and
will get FIRED if you don,t pay union dues, Now if you don,t call that
being in bed with the company what the hell else is it?  We are being
forced to pay union dues but the utu don,t care a rats ass about the
members as long as the dues money keeps comming into cleveland ohio utu
headquarters from us closed shop suckers.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 10 September 2010

Hey RRJ:

In the words of Benjamin Franklin: “We must all hang together, or,
assuredly, we shall all hang separately.”

Good advice...especially when it comes to unions, It's a team effort.
The only thing that matters is the final score! Sooner or later the
members will figure that out after they're kicked around awhile
longer. I just hope it's not too late by then!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 10 September 2010

NoMo

I understand what your saying. The LC never did anything against me
everytime I called him he did his job. I heard the arguements at union
meetings it always takes a motion to be made and someone to second it.
That never happened. I can't say what happened within that test period
average for the trip rates. Like most I was shocked when it became known
that no claims were paid in a 12 months cycle. Wether I had any claims
in that time frame is uncertian there were times when I never filed any
claims within a year or more. Getting claims paid or denied wasn't a
big conversation in a crew room somethings are personal. Unlike today
where people take it to personal when there denied and love to bitch to
anyone that'll listen.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 10 September 2010

Huh!!! What the heck are you talking about? I had never had the power to
make that decision it's called a democracy majority rules. I forgot
today it's more about being an individual instead of a group on the
new railroad. That's why you people will never get anywhere fighting
the system. You haven't a clue how things are done. Place blame on
everyone else never take responsiblity. I never voted for the BLET SSA
voted against it twice. It's clear cut on specific issues like
attendance policies and time off. No, ya'll blame everyone else if it
back fires. Have you people ever read an agreement? I think not. Ya'll
need to start thinking before making rash decisions like how will this
affect us in 10 years. I think the majority that voted for it looked at
signing bonuses, yearly bonuses ect...instead of work rule changes. Quit
the blame game become a man take responsiblity for yourself.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 10 September 2010

Hey RRJ:

It's too bad some of the union officials, whether on the Local,
General or International level put their best interests above that of
the men they represent. What's even sadder is the membership
allows them to get away with it.

Had the LC done his job, the trip rate in your area might have been 
$5-$10 higher. Seems that there were 2 pages of penalty claims down
here. About half were road claims and half were yard service claims;
half were pre 85 and half were post 85. There are still plenty of
claims to be filed.

I think when the CN renegotiated back in 03 or 04 their rates
took out all but a few claims out. It would be interesting to know
how much they've saved in administration costs by wrapping most of the
penalty claims into the daily rate. Of course they had an old
railroad man in Hunter Harrison at the helm back then.

CSX came out shortly thereafter with their version, trip rates.
I guess the moral of the story is never let a bean counter ascend to
the thrown...they're more interested in statistical trends than taking
care of business

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years
Posted: 10 September 2010

You should take the blame for not having the balls to get rid of the
LC......

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 10 September 2010

NoMo

I agree. Look at all the lawyers they could get rid of who handle labor
matters. They could cut the labor relations department by 70%. That
would be one heck of a savings. Most of the old claims were pre-85
hence the "protected statis" on the seniority rosters. Post 85ers
didn't get runarounds at least not on the C&O agreements. A lot of
claims were included in the trip rates then wiped out. That way
everyone benefited if the numbers were accurite when trip rates were
established. We had a LC at the time who never hid the fact he was
applying to every management job his record reflected that fact. He
wouldn't step down when confronted at meetings and most people didn't
want to go the route of kicking him out. When trip rates were being
negotiated in the 12 month test period there wasn't one claim paid it
hurt the outcome. Bad part the new LC had to take the bashing even
though everyone knew he had nothing to do with it.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 September 2010

Hey RRJ:

CSX doesn't want to pay claims and the unions don't want to handle
them so why don't the unions and CSX agree to a buyout of the claims?

CSX and the unions would save millions in not having to handle the
claims and the men would get a nice little bump in their rate. Since
there were no more penalty claims there would be no more finagling on
the moves to generate them, not that I ever did that. Everything should
become more efficient saving additional time and money.

Seems pretty straight forward to me...I wonder why CSX or the unions
haven't thought of it?

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 09 September 2010

NoMo

It's real simple CSX and the unions did away with run-around claims.
I'd been rested and had crews run around me going back on a short turn
service. CSX response a train was ready and they didn't want to hold it
for a two hour call. It only added more hours on to our stay. If they
had a train ready why didn't they call us? Never got an intelligent
response from any TM. It's a power issue they can do it because they
can. No more penalty claims. People want to know why claims are denied
it's because the authority to approve claims by local management was
taken away everything goes thru JAX. That has been going on for the
past 2 years. Up until that point I was getting claims paid at least
those that a TM authorized. All one can do today is file get it denied
then forward it to the LC for handling. Got an email the other day on
claims paid at a claims conference out of a couple hundred 17 were paid
about 34 forwarded for further handling the rest were schidt canned. The
list keeps getting smaller.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 September 2010

The UTU web site had a link on their home page to the memorial for the
fallen Brothers and Sisters...where did it go?

I guess registering voters and Mike's spiel about how much better the
UTU is now that he's in charge trump the deaths of the fallen!

What a class act!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 September 2010

2 UTU members die in separate accidents
 
Two UTU members have died in separate on-duty rail accidents over the
Labor Day period in Mobile, Ala., and near the southern New Jersey town
of Paulsboro, a suburb of Philadelphia.

These two on-duty fatalities bring rail-employee on-duty fatalities for
2010 to 13, which is three more than the 10 reported on-duty fatalities
for all of 2009; and bring UTU-member on-duty rail fatalities to eight
for 2010, which is equal the 12-month total in 2009.

In Mobile, conductor Josh Roper, 27, died in an accident Saturday,
Sept. 4, at McDuffie Coal Terminal while working a conventional
switching job with Alabama State Docks Terminal Railroad. He had been
furloughed by CSX before hiring on with the state-owned railroad. Roper
was member of UTU Local 598. He is survived by his wife, Cassie, and
two-year-old daughter. 

The Mobile Press-Register newspaper reported that there were no
witnesses to the accident. The newspaper reported that when
"co-workers found [Roper], they said it appeared he had been struck by
a railcar." The accident is being investigated by the Federal Railroad
Administration.

Near Paulsboro, N.J., a Conrail Shared Assets conductor and member of
UTU Local 1390 died Thursday, Sept. 2, during what FRA investigators
report was a two-man conventional switching move into an industrial
facility. The FRA said the move was observed by a surveillance camera
"seconds before impact." The name of the deceased, reportedly 57
years old, has not been released.

A third on-duty rail fatality occurred Wednesday, Sept. 1, near
Minneapolis, when a BNSF maintenance worker -- not a UTU member -- was
struck by a Northstar commuter train.

The UTU participates in the Switching Operations Fatalities Analysis
(SOFA) working group, a coordinated effort with the FRA, carriers and
labor organizations to develop safe practices that reduce fatalities
and career ending injuries in yard switching operations.

To learn more about SOFA safe practices, go to www.utu.org and click on
the "Transportation Safety Link" in the blue tile box on the left. 

That link also provides information on UTU Transportation Safety Team,
which assists the National Transportation Safety Board in accident
investigation; and the UTU Rail Safety Task Force, which works with
general chairpersons, state legislative directors, local officers and
members to develop safe practices and techniques to improve -- and keep
at its highest level -- situational awareness in yard and road
operations.
 
September 7, 2010

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 07 September 2010

Hey Kyle:

TMI...I bet most of the men got Crabs, kinda hard to explain that to
their wives. I'm surprised the Trainmasters weren't making short arm
inspections;)

Name: kyle
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 06 September 2010

You younger dudes should be glad that we are now put up away from home
in hotels & motels as when i hired on they the rr still had a few of
those old YMCA bunk houses which were just like a army bootcamp
barracks from ww-2, The sleeping quarters had like 50 bunks and the
only thing between the bunks was a cloth curtain and two of did not
even have AC So you can just imagine the noise & awfull oders that
reeked out of those places,Then the big lavatorys, 20 tolilets & sinks
all lined up real nice and you could smell it before you even walked in
there plus the shower rooms which had about 20 shower heads, ie no
privacy period!! I re-call getting a bad case of atheletes foot in one
of those shower dumps, And then the canteens they in those ymca,s,The
stuff they cooked was not fit for anaimals,Some guys would not even
stay in those places as some would have a 2nd car they kept at the away
from home terminals and would drive 200 miles or more back to their
homes,,Its sort of strange as i too had a 2nd car, ie i wised up but
every time i would go home from the away from home terminal i would get
called out in 8 hrs but if i stayed at the Y then i would sit there and
rot for 40+ hours in the company hell hole, All i got to say those
YMCA,S sucked and was very happy when they closed all those rat holes.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 06 September 2010

Hey Con 1-10:

6-10 hours...I've been held away for 56 hours and was 3x out when I
put off. I was working a pool turn and got run around by men with
windows slots.

Might not been so bad had CSX paid the run around claims. Finally
called the Chief Dispatcher and told her to call a van or run a train.
They ran one that had been sitting for 2 days. The Trainmaster
was pissed that I forced him to call a crew.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 05 September 2010

It's unbelievable how ridiculous company officials are in this company.
They put you in the hotel for rest, which I have no problem with, and
hold you there for 6-10 hours after you are rested. What is the point
of taking rest in this case? The chief dispatcher should have the
foresight to realize crews cannot possibly be rested if they are
staying in the hotel for so long. Defeats the purpose of the new FRA
law when this kind of behavior is allowed by our company officials. I
generally keep my complaints to myself as they are trivial, but when is
CSX gonna crack down on Chief dispatchers and trainmasters that
constantly abuse their positions and employees.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 02 September 2010

man, I am so glad to be out of this hell hole!!!  Everyone is looking
out for number one!!!  I was there for 4 years and read between the
lines!!!!  I saw my furlough coming but needed the benefits!!!  So I
beat them to the punch and went out disability (with benefits) and
received a job JUST before the benefits went out.  The sad part, the
union official was more pissed at me than the damn company officials!! 
I wonder why that is??  Could it be because I gave (and most on here
still do) over $100.00 a month to a bunch of low life fags who were in
the companies left hand pocket who only know how to say "they can do
that, they can do that, they can do that. But hey, thanks for your
charity to the waterhead (aka, UTU & BLE) union.  We appreciate you
WAISTING your money!!"  The funny part is just that, I CAN LAUGH IN
YOUR
FACES!!!!!LLLLLLLLLMMMMMMMMAAAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
 But hey, I love the UTU news letters I still get.  Keep them coming,
they make wonderful fire starters for winter!!!!!LMAO  The federal
gov't is the way to go people!!!

Name: Madman
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 20-30 years
Posted: 01 September 2010

I received this from a friend of mine and it's very interesting in
opening doors around this shit hole!


Dear Amtrak Committee Member,

The following is provided as information. Twofold evidence that; 1)
laws protecting rail workers are changing, and 2) Amtrak remains
consistently oppressive. 


Amtrak Employee Awarded $160K in 'Historic' FRSA Case
Aug 31, 2010

An Amtrak coach cleaner has been awarded substantial damages for
retaliation by her employer for reporting an on-the-job ankle sprain.
The U.S. Department of Labor ordered Amtrak to pay Nicole Anderson, a
Seattle, Washington Amtrak employee, $60,000 in compensatory damages
and $100,000 in punitive damages in a decision issued last week.

Amtrak terminated Anderson's employment in November 2007 after she
reported to her manager that she had sprained her ankle while working
at Amtrak's King Street Station facility. While Amtrak claimed it
fired Anderson for failing to exercise common sense, Administrative Law
Judge Steven B. Berlin concluded otherwise, finding that Anderson
established at trial that Amtrak retaliated against her in violation of
the Federal Railroad Safety Act for reporting her work-related injury.

Explaining the $100,000 punitive damages award, the judge wrote,
"Amtrak's conduct reflects a degree of conscious disregard for how
its practices obstruct Congress's mandate in the Federal Rail Safety
Act. Punitive damages are appropriate to correct and deter this
conduct."

OSHA launched an investigation into the matter after one of Anderson's
co-workers reported Amtrak's action to the agency's Seattle regional
office. Amtrak reduced its discipline of Anderson from termination to a
30-day suspension without pay while OSHA's investigation was pending.
Following a thorough investigation, OSHA concluded in October 2008 that
Amtrak terminated Anderson in retaliation for reporting her ankle
sprain, and ordered the railroad to pay the worker her lost wages,
expunge her employment file, and to pay her $20,000 in punitive damages
for its illegal conduct. Anderson returned to work at Amtrak in January
2008, where she still works today.

Amtrak appealed OSHA's decision to the DOL's Office of Administrative
Law Judges, and that appeal culminated in a trial de novo before Judge
Berlin in June 2009. Attorney Fredric A. Bremseth represented Anderson
at trial. This was the first case to be tried under a 2007 amendment to
the Federal Railroad Safety Act, 49 U.S.C. §20109, that makes it illegal
for railroads to retaliate against employees who report work-related
injuries.

As the result of Amtrak's illegal conduct, Judge Berlin ordered the
railroad to:
     
Expunge Anderson's personal file of any disciplinary record or
negative references related to her Oct. 1, 2007 injury accident;
Amend its disciplinary records to show no more than a verbal warning in
connection with Anderson's late arrival at a safety meeting and expunge
the four-day suspension without pay that Amtrak imposed for that
incident;
Pay Anderson back pay in the amount of $2,666.67, plus interest from
the date of termination until the date of payment at the rate
prescribed by law;
Pay Anderson $60,000 in punitive compensatory damages;
Pay Anderson $100,000 in punitive damages; and
Pay Anderson for her attorneys' fee and costs.

"This is an historic case," Bremseth said, "that vindicates
Congressional findings that railroads do in fact engage in retaliation
and harassment of injured employees in order to keep them from
reporting work-related injuries." The attorney added, "We are very
pleased for our client, and hope this landmark case will put railroads
on notice that they can no longer intimidate their employees to keep
them from reporting on-the-job injuries."

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 01 September 2010

Hay Dave:

Perhaps the FRA should take a hint!

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_GULF_OIL_SPILL_REVOLVING_DOOR?SITE=PAREA&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 01 September 2010

The railroad isn't for everyone never has been never will be. I don't
know if I would of stayed with it if I hired out today. Then again what
it once was wouldn't of affected me only what it has become. A person
assimulates to there enviroment or doesn't. I admire those that leave
people shouldn't stay at jobs they don't like even in a down turn
economy. To the last poster the federal goverment is job security
almost recession proof unlike state, county, and city goverment jobs.
Funny someone should quote a person who only stayed 10 weeks which is
not enough time to form an opinion the person only took the option to
leave which is common among new hires. No one will miss him. How can
anyone take someone seriously that made it only 2 weeks out of the REDI
center. There are hundreds maybe thousands out there waiting as
replacements. When people get hungry enough they will be greatful for
work. Not a lot of choices today the railroad is still good money.

Name: Chris Leabetter
E-mail: cleabetter@gmail.com
Employed as: Brakeman, for 1-10 years
Posted: 31 August 2010

"IF YOU ARE NOT DESPERATE FOR A JOB AND HAVE EDUCATION, DO YOURSELF A
FAVOR AND TRY TO GET A JOB ELSEWHERE. FEDERAL EMPLOYMENT IS THE WAY TO
GO. THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. I SHOULD HAVE QUIT CSX MY SECOND DAY ON
THE JOB, BUT I STUCK IT OUT FOR TEN WEEKS UNTIL I COULDN'T TAKE THEIR
BULLSHIT ANYMORE. UNSAFE, UNFAIR, RATS AND SCABS............"

God Bless the mans heart who said this!!!!!!  I am so glad the railroad
is a distant memory!!!  I have been out for 3 years and working for the
Fed Gov't ever since.  Seeing my family more and getting treated well
by my management, I feel like a human again.  I felt like I did
something bad and was assigned to community service, except I received
pay for it while I was in the RR.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 31 August 2010

Retraction: The "99ers" collected unemployment for 99 weeks not
months. Big difference.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 30 August 2010

Dave 

You had me up in till the mention of blaming drivers for crossing
accidents. Unlike you I witnessed driver carelessness every trip. I'll
agree there is a minuit percentage of crossing system failure accidents
but it's not as high as you would like to make it. I know one is to
many. Your right it's considered part of the equation for big
business. That is just the way things have been since the beginings of
mankind. 

I unfortunately had to go to Ohio the past 4 days. What a bunch of
angry people. My sisters boyfriend used that expression when I asked
about what I noticed. Ohio & Michigan for nearly 60 years had the
luxory of those high paying union jobs which are no longer there and
the people are angry. The economy is in the crapper road work that was
being done 11 months ago on my last visit wasn't completed no funds in
the state coffers. So, the people go to their corner bar for cheap
alcohol and vent out their frustrations. Terms like give me a shot of
recession proof Jim Beam which was a half shot. No sympathy from me if
people want to sit on their arses and do nothing. I take it most are
the "99ers" a new political group who collected unemployment for 99
months till they were cut off. I guess that term made them feel better
then saying they were on welfare. Heck the 99ers even protested in Wash
DC for more extended benefits. Different world different generation from
where I came. The cry babies will vent at the current administrations in
DC this mid term elections just to find out neither party really gives a
crap. It's all about big business and those without jobs are just part
of the equation just like crossing accidents.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 30 August 2010

Hey Dave:

Most of the complaints you hear are about things handled at the Local
an General Committee levels. 

Unfortunately, the complaints you read about are pay disputes and
attendance handling. International sits in Cleveland and gets involved
in big political issues like safety...crossing incidents certainly
qualify. They can pound their chest and talk tough but in reality
they're just a mouse that roars. 

Over the last two years there have been at least 4 fatalities on the
CSX attributed to Remote Control Operations and there's no telling how
many on the other carriers. Several of these were peg leg jobs.
To date the only thing the UTU has done, as far as I know, is write
letters and tell the membership they will take care of them.

Fatigue was another issue they handled with a new HOS law. Never worked
under it but judging from the posts I've read, No body has 
said anything good about it. In fact, it has led to a new attendance 
policy which no one likes.

I hope the employees take you up on your offer to help. It's time
the FRA, Union and carriers hands is called on this important safety
issue...especially with the advent of HSR. I would think the employees
have a vested interest and would think about their families...one of
them might be next!

Name: Dave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 29 August 2010

NoMo

The UTU attorney I was working with was very sharp and unlike what I
have heard about the UTU, they are very concerned about the welfare of
it's members.
I was late getting to Washington and we had very little time to discuss
issues. Much of the information I needed to hammer the FRA came to me
later. Maybe I can discuss how the FRA is used to point the blame on
train crews in the same manner as drivers at crossing accidents a
little later. I think you'll be amazed as I was.

To answer your question: I did discuss railroads endangering you guys
with the attorney. This may be the reason for the UTU posting the
article on crossing accidents. Let me take a wild shot at it.
The UTU legal department his sort of like any other.  In order for them
to act, they must first have complaints or requests from their
membership. The UTU has to account for monies allocated for research,
investigations, etc.. They would have to set up a budget.,
Seems to me, the UTU posted the article saying " Is the membership
having problems, being endangered by signals?  If so, file complaints
and we'll act." 
I am willing to help in anyway I can IF it's GODS will. I certainly
don't want to get into any more boxing matches with GOD, my arms are
too short. I am 100% positive that the FRA has been corrupted and
serves to investigate and report all railroad accidents and poor safety
as being human error of train crews and drivers. However, as you can
imagine, taking on both railroads and government is no easy task,
especially when government is in the middle of providing billions of
dollars to railroads for High Speed Rail, Not to mention Mid Term
Ellections and a fight for political power. Employees and the public
killed as a result of the FRA and railroad actions are simply a cost of
"doing business." Let me know if I can help, I'll take it as a divine
aproval until proven otherwise by getting my brains beat in.

Name: KYLE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 29 August 2010

The rr management has always made bad insights as to rr operations as
that was going on over 20 yrs ago when i hired on, But i must admitt it
has got worse not better in the past 20+ years and i do put a lot of
blame on those morons in the IVORY TOWER as they are the ones who are
putting these kids right out of colledge into the field were they know
not one dam thing about how a rr should operate, Its the SOS if it
works on paper it works in the field and don,t forget when these kids
are in colledge taking up a degree in transportation, They are told
over & over that the union workers are the enemy who will try and put
the screws to the company at any chance they get in order to make more
money for less work with more time off, Seems it gets worse with every
merger too,,Hell i had one new TM right out of colledge and that dummy
did not even know that a engine has angle cocks on both ends and these
are the kinds of people that managment puts out in the field,,YIKES!!!
Then they wonder why on time preformance is so bad today, But they have
the answer for that all the time, Its all the fault of the crews in
every dept.

Name: slack action
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 28 August 2010

RE: love/hate engr..

I do not know what you are talking about T & E being the only ones
being accountable. M of W is accountable for every piece of track. 
Dispr are scutinized for every move they make and can be charged for
delaying a train, missing a slow order or crossing protection etc.  I
have the FRA breathing down my neck just about every other week...I
think you might want to reconsider that statement...

Name: Love/Hate
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 August 2010

CSX wants to hold train crews accountable for everthing but mech dept,
signal, track  and most of all piss poor managers and train disp are
not held accountable for anything I show up for work with the intention
of safely getting the job done proffesionally and going home. We are no
longer encouraged to make responsible decisions based on years of
experience.  We are no longer trusted at all and the important
decisions are left to 20 something children with college degrees in
whatever. They have little to no people skills and no practicle
experience. I have seen so many stupid decisions made and we train
crews are blamed for their bad decisions.

How much more money is csx willing to lose? how many more customers are
going to leave?

Empower your Qualified and experienced employees and let the little
college boys and girls manage fast food joints where they can make
their responsible decisions without costing us BIG busines.

I love my job. untie my hands, tell the worthless children managers to
back away. Hold everyone accountable for their descisions and the lack
thereof and watch us turn this cluster**** of a company into something
special

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: CSX Customer, for N/A
Posted: 28 August 2010

This is for the coal pier whistle blowers: Get in touch with the U.S.
Coast Guard. Specifically, "The Captain of the Port" for the
Baltimore C.G. Also get in touch with the Fifth Coast Guard District at
Portsmouth Virginia.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 28 August 2010

Hey Dave:

Didn't you give them an ear full when you helped them out?

Name: Dave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 27 August 2010

NoMo

Interesting that the UTU would post an article about crossing safety.
Why do you think they would do this?

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 26 August 2010

Hey Dave:

I saw this on the UTU web site and thought you might be interested!

     http://www.utu.org/worksite/detail_news.cfm?ArticleID=52986

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 26 August 2010

Hey Dave:

I've been around the block a few times. One thing I've concluded is
don't box with God, your arms aren't long enough!

Name: Dave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 26 August 2010

NoMo

I suspect you are much more than a train crew member or, have done a
lot of research on what's going on in our nation, railroads and other
business.

I had to work at Lowes for a short period as a Night Stalker/Stocker.
I was sitting in Lawn and Garden at 3 AM arguing with GOD as to WHY I
had been brought down to this position. I kept looking up at boxes that
all said "Made in China". It was then that it dawned on me that the
paperless system (EDI) I had created had allowed this Just In Time
Delivery process to take place, which has played a big part in our jobs
being shipped over seas.  It was then that I realized the huge role that
rail transportation plays in distribution of foreign goods for Just In
Time Delivery. I also realized why President Bush nominated John Snow
as Secretary Of Treasury to help establish NAFTA and High Speed Rail
among many others. From there it didn't take long to figure out just
how small my efforts on rail safety were and why my government had
turned on me.
I use to try and explain the process to people as a warning but now I
can only say "Stock up on food supplies and make sure your family gets
back to doing what's right" it's too late to turn this big ship
around.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for N/A
Posted: 25 August 2010

I think everyone on here is pathetic.  If you have an issue with CSX and
it's that bad then just leave!!  It seems to me that most of you want
to receive a paycheck and not be held accountable for doing your job!! 
Also, if you have an issue with someone....talk to them about it!!
Don't bitch on some website.  GROW SOME BALLS!!!  No need to
respond....I will not be on here ever again.  This was my first and
last time.  GET A LIFE!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 25 August 2010

Hey Dave:

I guess that explains why we would have a "stop and flag" order on
the same crossing for several days.

It's one thing to have JIT delivery at a certain location, like a 
auto or electronics plant but the RR? It's to far flung to work
efficiently. You need some inventory within an hour or two from your
farthest point.

The RR will use the same number of items, which will cost the same
regardless of whether it's carried at the RR warehouse or in the
vendors.

Commercial terms are generally net 30 days, 2% discount net 10 days
unless negotiated differently. The RR is more interested in having the
dollars spent on maintaining a small inventory sit in the bank and draw
interest rather than investing those few dollars on public safety.

Then when there's a incident they will try to blame the crew or the
victim!

Name: Dave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 25 August 2010

Freddie Krueger

The FRA saw a TM throw a switch in front of a train?
If your question is, what's the FRA going to do about the TM
endangering the train crew? NOTHING!

Not trying to be a know it all, just worked with the FRA and our
corrupted government on several occasions.

Let me see if I can make some common sense out of this.
There were bad guys "politicians, regulators and businessmen" in the
housing market. They helped destroy our nations economy right? Anyone
go to prison? The industry was TO BIG TO FAIL so the politicians,
government regulators ended up doing DAMAGE CONTROL by bailing out the
banks. The list goes on and on where government actually does damage
control instead of enforcing regulations to STOP illegal activities.

With railroads it's the same agenda.  The FRA's job has been switched
from enforcement of regulations on behalf of train crews and the people
to doing DAMAGE CONTROL.  Railroads are considered TOO BIG TO FAIL.  I
worked with the UTU last year on a case where the engineer had a red
signal flash in his face.  He went into emergency and got the engine
past the signal.  An FEC Train was coming across a diamond at the same
time. The engineer "done the right thing" and reported to CSX
Dispatch. Signals investigated and found nothing wrong (Niles Blaize). 
 Since the incident was an FRA reportable someone or something had to be
at fault right? Niles blamed the engineer, who was suspended.  The
engineer wrote the FRA (in the interest of protecting other crew
members)furnished the FRA with numerous written statements (from other
train crews)that the signals were failing at this diamond.  The FRA
investigated and upheld Herzogs (runs on CSX tracks)decision in
suspending the engineer.
The UTU contacted me for help. Herzog and the FRA depose me for
questioning.  Stop and think! Why would the FRA want to find chinks in
my findings in order to prove the engineer was at fault? DAMAGE
CONTROL! Couldn't be the CSX Signals aren't working on the Fail Safe
Principle, now could it? The same Signal Controls are now being used by
most all railroads. For the FRA to understand this, it would mean REAL
problems for the industry which is TOO BIG TO FAIL.
Herzog and the FRA focussed primarily on two points in the deposition.
I had a grudge against CSX and I post on the CSX-Sucks Web site. They
pulled out posts I had made all the way back to 2005!
Bottom line?
You guys are running on signals that are not Fail Safe and the FRA (who
has the responsibility to protect you) is running interference for the
railroads.  
Will this post help? Don't know but I sure do feel a lot better! :)

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 25 August 2010

Hey RRJ:

I think the "tap on the shoulder" went away when the CSX 
quit promoting through the ranks. It's not in these college boys best
interest to be a good guys. There's only two ways they can go...up or
out. At least the promoted TM can always fall back on his seniority. By
the way, have you ever noticed how many actually do?

The college crowd is more interested in firing someone rather than
helping them...of course before you can help you need to know a little
something!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 25 August 2010

Freddie

If a crew loses sight of a switch their required to stop and make sure
it's still properly lined. When I was working a yard job and there
wasn't any movement other than ours it seemed like a stupid rule. Then
again it wouldn't of surprised me if a TM threw a switch against us.
The only catastrophy would of been the crew getting busted for a run
thru switch. I don't know what the FRA could do if witnessing a TM
lining a switch seeing the only requirement to handle a switch is the
person must be qualified on the operating rules. The problem I would
have is if the TM witnessed the crew proceding without rechecking that
the route was lined and intentionally let them run thru it. I've seen
that happen crew gets busted for a rule violation while being observed
by several TM's doing e-testing. It would seen to me that they would
approach and make known their presence instead of watching someone
complete the rule violation. In my opinion that would make them an
accomplice and equally at fault. Whatever happened to the "tap on the
shoulder" if someone observes anyone about to violate a rule?

Name: Dave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 24 August 2010

NoMo

You mentioned "Just in time delivery" companies have gone to to
reduce or eleminate inventories.

Oddly enough this was a CSX Signals Inventory strategy we developed. 
It also includes Electronic Data Invoices (EDI) which eleminated
companies paper trails.  I got a HUGE BONUS for this $400 bucks.  The
process works great until a third party vendor is used and CSX filed
false billing to the states.

The original idea came from an "Owl Machine" fore runner to the ATM.
Go figure.

Name: Freddie Krueger
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 24 August 2010

A story was relayed to me last night.  Seems like an Asst Terminal
Manager in Baltimore threw back a switch that a conductor just
previously threw in order to Ops test the crew.  He was caught by the
FRA doing it.

Anyone else hear of this?  Seems to me he should be thrown in prison
for risking a catastrophe.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 24 August 2010

Hey Kyle & RRJ:

Let there be a wash out and the first thing the carriers do is evoke
"Force Majeure". If a car is not delivered on time, it's always
a YM's or crews fault. Switching windows...now there's a concept.
It's hard to work industries in a consistent manner when you have to
have ML time to get there.

Another thing I find amusing...certain facilities matter more than
others. Kyle has his GM plant...down here it's the Chevron refinery in
Pascagoula. Even though there are three other operations on the way;
Chevron had better be switched at all costs. I guess when you
have 175-200 cars a week you're more important than the others that
only have 50-75 car a week between them.

Like I said, I understand the concept of lean manufacturing; I however
find it short sighted when it come to a consistent process.
Delays are unavoidable whether you receive your feed stock and ship
your product by pipeline, barge, rail, air or truck. Having a day or
two inventory far outweighs any money saved in JIT inventory control.
Really the only reason a manufacturer would do it is to be able to
point a finger at someone else for any delay. It has also created a 
degree and certificate programs that colleges and consultants can
generate sizable revenues from.

The entire concept was based on Toyota's idea which allowed them to
become the premier auto manufacture in the world. Based on their recent
problems; Toyota needs to return to the drawing board!

Name: KYLE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 24 August 2010

For nomo yea that is excatly what happened the plant did not get those
10 cars on time and the plant had to be shut down per say for 3 hours,
as when the daylight ym relized what happened the rr orderd a special
train right away with only those 10 cars, so they did get them only
about 4 hrs late, But wooo talk about getting your tit in a ringer, I
sure did, My LC told me every word in the cuss book was used about me
in the supers office that morning, Man i must have really stirred up
the hornets nest that day, and i will admitt it i was running for the
EQ that night and all i got was big trouble.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 24 August 2010

NoMo

That type of business still goes on. It was humorous especially when
the road switcher or yard industry job were told by management get the
work done but by no means will there be any overtime. You take two man
crew consisting on an engineer and conductor/yard foreman having  to
switch out 10-12 locations in 8 hours. Everyone knew it was impossible
without OT even then it was slim. That piece of schidt terminal manager
we had mess things up every day and he's still there same job. Then
when things didn't get done he'ld get that call from JAX and would
sweat like the pig he was begging the crews to save his job. CSX was
allowed a time frame on delivering cars and always seemed to push it to
it's limit. It was the butt of jokes in the yard shack that so-n-so
hasn't had a switch in a week even though the cars were in the yard
but not on the switch list ect...even on road switchers crews are told
never pick up anything that isn't on the list. Years ago if it was an
empty it was picked up that conductor had full authority just needed to
green sheet it. I remember working a local at an Anheuser Busch plant it
was saturday morning we came back light motors just had enough time to
put them away before hogging. The terminal manager came racing towards
us in his car screaming his head off that there were 3 covered hoppers
of rice that needed to be placed today or he would have to pay the
price. Those cars had a 60 day window to make it to the plant they had
let them sit in the yard for over a month. Fortunately for him another
local which never worked on saturday agreed to come in that morning.
They weren't happy campers when they found out they wre going to place
the cars. We saw them in the crew room but never mentioned a word but
heard about monday morning.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 24 August 2010

Should I or not

I think every railroader wants better for their children then this
life. Back in the day before consolidated rosters a trainmen was road
or yard. Engineers always had a choice. When someone got hired on you
didn't know which you would work it was the railroad needs. I don't
know where you got your information on how it worked decades ago but I
can assure you those oldheads back then were dedicated. I can't think
of a time I ever purposely screwed over the railroad that isn't the
way I was taught. It was always get from point A to point B the
quickest safety way. There wasn't any of this hogging trains on the
line of road like there is today. Recrew service was nearly
non-excistent. Today at some locations they've become permanent jobs
to fudge numbers that trains aren't hogging. Years ago only time you
saw trains hog was because of broken rails, derailments, and weather
conditions. We would have trains stacked back to back waiting to get
into the terminal no one went on OT. The railroad was so efficient that
every train that got into the terminal had to swap out locomotives and
cabooses then pushers were attached to shove them out it ran like clock
work. Today there's no caboose the locomotives stay on no need for
pushers in most cases and CSX can't run a thing. It not the train
crews who are the problem. When I retired most trainmasters weren't
even born when I hired on the railroad they had no experience and were
just goffers to higher management. No can't see where the train crews
or yard crews ever sat around and jerked off like you stated.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 24 August 2010

Hey Kyle:

Some years ago manufactures went to Just In Time delivery to control
inventory costs. The reason it was such a big deal in your case was 
had the GM plant not received those cars, the plant would have shut
down. 

Personally, even though I understand the concept, I would always want
enough inventory to maintain my process for a day or two, in the event
there was a delay in the shipment.

Here's a link that may explain the concept:

         http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-in-time_(business)

Name: KYLE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 23 August 2010

I almost got FIRED a few yrs ago and not for any type of derailment or
damage to company property nothing like that, I was working a yard job,
had to couple 5 tracks to make up a train which i did!!!! but when i
made the doubles i forgot the 1 track and set the train out minus those
10 cars, little did i know that those 10 high cubes were loads with auto
parts for a gm plant and man the super freaked out about that, Not only
did i get my ass ripped out i got a letter for investagation, My LC
said they wanted to fire me permenet for doing that, I got off with 15
days on paper, The rule they got me on was failure to obey
instructions, But its not like i did this with intent to fuck the co
over it was just a human mistake that we all make, It was still conrail
when this happened and i know now under the new nazie regime that it
would be out on the street for such a offence, I know one thing now,
and its pay close attention when switching those high cubes around the
yard, In fact my LC told me they would not have made a big deal about
if it involved any other type of freight, I did find out that auto
plants use those high cubes as a sort of warehouse which i think is
stupid as what would happen if the train enroute to the plant derailed,
anything like that, oh well ya live and learn.

Name: numbutt
E-mail: csx is king
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 23 August 2010

Hey butt heads, anybody know about stop & flag? If yes.,does anybody
give a rat'
s ass? Go figure! Just curious as friend of a friend got picked off at
crossing while stop & flag was in effect. Is there any dorks that care
abvout homicide? Better know that shit will happen with RCO's and more
crap. Brothers have to know what's what.

Name: J H 
E-mail: Fitzgerald Ga
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 23 August 2010

TO Should I or NOT. wHEN I HIRED OUT THE RR WAS A VERY GOOD JOB i SAW
ALL THE GOOD TIMES AND IN MY LAST SEVEN YEARS THEY WENT BAD. BACK THEN
THE TRAINMASTERS AND ROADFOREMANS WERE OUT TO HELP EVERYONE DO THEIR
JOBS BETTER.NOW CSX HIRES THESE TRAINMASTERS AND ROADFOREMANS TO FIRE
YOU NOT TO HELP YOU..THIS MAY BE THE ONLY GOOD PAYING JOB WHERE WHEN
YOU HIRE ON CSX HIRES SOMEONE TO RUN YOU OFF INSTEAD OF HELPING YOU. IF
YOU LAST LONG ENOUGH YOU TO WILL SEE THIS. IN MY R.R.  CAREER I SAW A
LOT OF CHANGES MOST FOR THE WORST FOR ITS EMMPLOYEES. THIS SO CALL
SAFETY PROGRAM THAT CSX GOT GOING WHERE THEY GIVE EACH LOCAL CHAIRMAN
10 DAYS A MONTH OFF WITH BIG PAY NEEDS TO BE STOPPED.IN YOUR R.R.
CAREER YOU WILL NEVER SEE A STRIKE WHERE AS I SAW SEVERAL.IF THEY
CONTINUE GIVING MONEY TO YOUR UNION REPRESENTING YOU WILL NEVER COME
OUT AHEAD WITH YOUR JOB THIS I BELEIVE.THE SAME ASS KISSERS WILL ALWAYS
BE ON YOUR SAFETY COMMITTE GETTING THAT EASY MONEY FROM CSX ALL THE TIME
THE RR IS SCREEWING YOU GET OUT.IN ORDER TO GET ONE UNION JOIN UP WITH
THE ENGINEERS FOR IN THE FUTURE ALL EMPLOYEES WILL BE PROMOTED AND IT
COMES DOWN TO THE FACT THAT YOU ARE REALLY ONE GROUP OF EMPLOYEES
ANYWAY QUIT HAVING EACH UNION WORKING AGAINST EACH OTHER.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 23 August 2010

Should I or should I not.... I have never said this before..but RRJ is
right... You are delusional.  In five years you WILL NOT have a
job..then you will realize that you have wasted five years of your life
working for a bunch of fucking assholes.  Wake up and forget you ever
heard of CSX.  Go back to school. Do something else. If you think you
can show up and play by the rules and enjoy a great railroading
career--you are mistaken.  You don't have to believe me --hire on..
join up.  You will see for yourself and one day maybe not tomorrow or
even next year or the year after...I promise you are going to be
walking in the ballast a 3am  and you are going to ask yourself .."How
the fuck did end up here, doing this bullshit?" Good Luck on whatever
you decide

Name: J H 
E-mail: Fitzgerald ga
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 23 August 2010

To the cond Should I or NOt. I worked for 40 years trying to get my 240
days in for vacation for the followin year liked only 8 days had 232
days in. well I was working rd switcher and my brakeman had 38 years in
he shouved into a cut of cars . we had a cut of cars of 38 me  a cub and
the engineneer was on the eng. I finally convinced csx to not even
mention the cub so thanks that is what they did but the engineer myself
and the brakeman was pulled out of service for 37 days well the engineer
got paid latter the brakeman was found guilty and my good general
chairmain mr Hancock got me 8 days added to my time he said so that i
would quality for my vacation instead of about $10,000.00 this was not
suppose to interfier with my claim for the 37 days but my good general
chairman hancock said since he got me 5 weeks minimun vacaton pay he
settle for this without even talking to me. i could have easy worked
another week but he did not even care to talk to me Hancock knows who I
am I wish he would call me.This is the same general chairman that helped
our ex local chairman steal thousands of dollors from the young men in
Fitzgerad Ga several years ago.I hope he enjoys himself when he gets
through giving claims away and retires.It is not only Csx sucks for the
higher up in the unions is doing the sucking too.The sooner the unions
engineers and conductors become one union working conditions will not
get better. Have a good day hancock i hope someone gets this to you.oh
this happened 3 years ago i guess i should just forget but i will
not.csx

Name: Should I or Not
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 22 August 2010

RRJ

Your a good guy and I got lots to learn from you guys; so don't take
it the wrong way just don't like being sterotyped with all the other
wide eyed neophytes.

Name: Should I or Not
E-mail: toadtrash@gmail.com
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 22 August 2010

conductorsgirl

toadtrash@gmail.com

Email me when you want.

Name: Should I or Not
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 22 August 2010

RRJ

First-Go to Hell, Screw You and shove it up your arse, Second-Thanks
for your responce and for the most part your right. CSX Sucks but I
know the game, its the same everywehre. Yes crews will be cut back to
one; don't care; CSX will continue to blow; don't care; this isn't
your daddys railroad where the engineer and conductor can sleep and
jack off half the time; I know that. Here's the fact CSX sucks balls
but there getting by with this crap because you had a select few of old
"dick" heads that scam the system so everybody pays; right now we have
to play by CSX Rules. The union needs CSX; CSX does not need the union.
There will come a time the ball is back in our court; but thats not
right now. I have a masters degree, had a great job; and want to come
to work for the rail road. Unlike most people I have lots of options
but chose to do this. I have no illusions about how the game is played.
If you show up, do your job, follow the rules and don't jack off CSX
can;t touch you, you screw around your toast. So again thanks and screw
you.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 19 August 2010

Should not

Come back here in a year or so tell us what you really feel about CSX
and the railroad lifestyle. It's not the same as it use to be. There
are two types out here 1) those that except the fact it is what it is
2) those that don't. What you have right now new hire euphoria it'll
diminish once reality sets in. Grandpa & Dad can't give you advise
anymore it's changed that much. In 5-10 years the railroads will go
thru another drastic change those trainmen protected under the crew
consist will be gone. When that happens the railroads will most likely
push hard for engineer only freight trains. I hope it doesn't happen.
I never thought yard remotes would become a reality and they did. The
BLET then got protection for the engineers to run remotes on the
mainline taking it out of the conductors hands. It doesn't look good.

Name: numbutt
E-mail: csx is king
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 1-10 years
Posted: 18 August 2010

Who knows about statute of limitations? When a "stop & flag" is in
effect for a crossing, and the conductor & engineer are sleeping or
eating & forgot to stop and hit a SUV and 3 people get killed is it ok
after the DA forgets to prosecute after 7 years? Just wondering if
negligent homicide carries a "Limitations" requirement as it relates
to crossing/vehicle wipe outs. What say you Pines or Dipturd?

Name: conductorsgirl
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 18 August 2010

I am so happy to hear from you "Should I." That is very encouraging.
So nice to hear from someone who can symathize and someone who knows
things can get better (as opposed to hearing from these guys who
obviously dislike women lol)  He should be getting somewhat close to
five years, but I know he will probably go to engineer school soon, and
I don't want it to start all over. I would love for him to be at a
point where we atleast know what days to plan things and be able to
have a social life with friends and family (and a little more time for
us too) I know CSX has great things to offer. Good luck with
everything. I need your mom as a coach!! I'd love to hear more from
you/your wife/your mother. Do you have an email address?

Name: Should I or Not
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 18 August 2010

Conductor Girl,
A lot of issues with this thing(HER). If you notice Conductor Man is
not saying anything. Hell he never get's a chance to say anything. I
can see her with the phone for hours, and follow that with this site.

Conductor girl I suggest you let the sleeping giant alone, let him
work, and take care of his money very closely. If you keep on doing
what you are doing, he will simply move on and continue to work and
find himself another hide. History repeats itself. 

There is a good guy at walmart that has a lot of time off, little
stress, and plenty of time to lay in the sack with you.

Your Boyfriend is really a Railroader. It is you that cannot accept
it,
and he goes along to keep things cool around the house. My feeling is
you will never get between him and his job, goodness you are sure
trying.


Your a Fag; If I was you I would kill myself. Not on the R.R. though,
CXS is Saftey First

Name: Should I or Not
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 18 August 2010

Conductor's Girl

Ignore Numnuts; I just got hired on; but I will be a 4th gen engineer;
grandpa 45 yrs, dad 38 and counting; It will get better; the first 5
years are hell; from a kid who’s been trough it and watching my mom
who’s been through it; (she talking to my wife of what to expect)when
he gets enough seniority; 5-10 years usually; he can get a more "set"
schedule. Meaning if its a pool, he'll know what 2 days he’s getting
off though they will change or yard job 3rd shift with tues and wed
off; not the best but you can start planning. If you can sacrifice the
short turn, you really gains long term. Being a conductor/engineer is
great because as you age (if you join young) you get better and better
schedule and easier jobs. Let me know if you have any questions; I've
been through it.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 18 August 2010

Hey Trainmasterbater/Stupidvisor:

What hormones?
The webmaster will make more space...
and so is Lady Gaga!

Big deal!

Name: conductorgirl
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 18 August 2010

To the chicken who responded to me and was too afraid to put his name: 
Conductor man isn't talking because he doesn't have time to get on
this thing. As I have said many times already, I am on here because I
am concerned for him. He is the one that is stressed and complaining.
He is the one that is tired of always being gone and not having the
slightest of ideas when he may or may not get called. What am I doing
wrong that is going to cause him to find another "hide?" 

As everyone knows, there are two types of railroaders. The ones who are
constantly looking to get on a train and make more money to support the
fancy lifestyle that they don't have time to lead and the kind of want
to work and make a living for their family, but also be home to enjoy
the living they are making. You sound like the first type. Sounds like
you don't have a wife or girl and if you do, she must not be one that
you care to be home with. Maybe you have another girl at your away
terminal??

I am not trying to get between him and his job. WE are trying to find
something better at CSX or do what we can to make a change with the
stupid new attendance policies- because they are a real safety issue.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 17 August 2010

Nice website haven't been on here for awhile, now where are the
ble-sucks, and the utu-sucks companion sites...They all follow
suit...Earnings going down, all claims denied, no air on engins(real
safe), some caps set at zero but new attendance policy, management is
clueless, Union dues on the rise for these great agreements we are
voteing in(yeah right). This company is now in the business of bonus,
not railroading. And on and on, I could go on for days, but think of
this.. without the railroad and those of us who do our jobs, there is
no bonus...take care of what takes care of you. Jackasses.... Unions
need to respect their members, and management needs to grow a pair and
learn to think for themselves. We need thinkers not "yes"men. I am
supposed to be led by example, but I only know how to railroad, and
dont understand how a 2 year degree in nothing realative to my job can
lead me, I'm not intrested in your degrees, we are not splitting atoms
here. Stupid litte yellow switch tags, and stickmen..all will get your
job, but what do you get for passing their little test? No praise, no
thanks, nothing positive, you just get to keep your job...woo-hooo,
Sorry for the ramble, and please excuse any of my phonetically
challenged words, and grammer. I just needed to vent...have a CSX
ethnical day.

Name: Friend of a Happy RR
E-mail: suthrnrazd@msn.com
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 17 August 2010

Spread positive and you will reap positive. Spread negative and you reap
negative and negative can kill or mame someone. You have the lives of
many people in the palm of your hand. And you can choose to change many
lives in the blink of an eye for the negative or positive. They don't
make soft trains or allow for do overs. The life you save might be your
own someday.Do your work 100 percent and go home safe. If you don't
like your job weather it be because of the hours you have to work or
the shift you have to work or the days you spend out of town .or the
family occasions you miss...FIX it yourself..  Have Christmas on your
day off in the middle of July, Your birthday might have to be
celebrated on a different date so what? Make it on your day off..two
months before the birthdate. It will really be a surprise birthday then
.Make it up to your family in other ways.  So what,it is still a
birthday and it is still Christmas,maybe even more special to your
family because no one else has Christmas in July.... You can only
depend on one person in your life to make you happy and that is YOU.
make yourself happy and spread it around, the world would be a happier
place. Bring peace to your life and you will be less stressed about
your job or bills or anything.. Be Happy Be Safe sounds corney but
Soooo very true.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 17 August 2010

NoMo

Your old hormones are effecting your head.
Conductorsgirl is a plant used to use up space on this sight.
She's hung better than you. 
GOOFY!

Name: Dave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 August 2010

Signalman
Sorry, I referenced a link and then didn't post it. 
http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/Pre_96/September95/520.txt.html

Think about it! The government ask for my help in bringing CSX to
justice for stealing from the government and it's people. For my
efforts, some call me a trouble maker. The CSX Signal Supervisors ask
for my help in eleminating this illegal control circuit that kills
people at crossings. For my efforts? You call me a trouble maker.  

I ask you a simple question and you are avoiding the answer. I'll ask
again.
My Grandson saw an Amtrak blow though a crossing in Kingsland Ga. with
the gates coming down after Amtrak had passed through the crossing.
The circuit in use by CSX did not work on the fail safe principle did
it?
All we need is a SIMPLE yes or no man.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 August 2010

Conductor Girl,
A lot of issues with this thing(HER). If you notice Conductor Man is
not saying anything. Hell he never get's a chance to say anything. I
can see her with the phone for hours, and follow that with this site.

Conductor girl I suggest you let the sleeping giant alone, let him
work, and take care of his money very closely. If you keep on doing
what you are doing, he will simply move on and continue to work and
find himself another hide. History repeats itself. 

There is a good guy at walmart that has a lot of time off, little
stress, and plenty of time to lay in the sack with you.

Your Boyfriend is really a Railroader. It is you that cannot accept it,
and he goes along to keep things cool around the house. My feeling is
you will never get between him and his job, goodness you are sure
trying.

Name: conductorsgirl
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 August 2010

Trainmaster/Dumba$$

Seems to me like the people on here are either employees family/
employees off duty or retired people. Mind your business and go
elsewhere. You are no one special on this site. Everything I have asked
about is 100% a safety issue. If my man is not in his best healthy
physically and mentally, he is not being the safest he can be and I
have every right to be worried and concerned because the folks as CSX
seem to not care a bit about the well being of their employees. 

RRJ- I'm sorry that your ex wife still seems to have you angry. My man
actually read the post from you or whoever it was saying that I nag and
he laughed. He is the one who said it sounds like these men are angry
about their naggy wives. My man has it good. I am very supportive and
obviously doing what I can to help him find something better. Yes, he
worked at the railroad before he met me. At the time, he didn't care
if he was home or not, but now he wants to be home with me. At that
time, the attendance policy was not rape either. He was atleast able to
have an idea of when he would be off/ and be able to schedule thing and
not get fired for being sick etc. We have been togther for three years,
so yes, he has seen me upset about being stuck with all the
responsibilities and being stuck alone. I won't deny that and I don't
think there is anything wrong with the fact that he knows that. I don't
bring it up often, but I think any railroader knows that the schedule is
not just tough on your guys- its hard on your women too (unless maybe
your women have another man taking care of them when you aren't home.)
Fact is- this job cuts it for some, and not for others. I asked about
the safety/attendance because I am looking to find him something else
more fitting in CSX and I wanted opinions. I wasn't looking for your
opinion on whether or not I am a naggy wife. Time for you to get over
the anger buddy. lol

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 August 2010

Hey Trainmasterbater/Stupidvisor:

Hiding in the bushes...probably rubbing one off. 

What they do, let you out of school early today?

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 17 August 2010

You got a long wait dipschidt. I'm retired from CSX.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 17 August 2010

Womanizer

Precisouly my point. Instead of running the trains safely you guys
sound like Dear Abby.  Your on the job take personal stuff elsewhere.
Probably what happened to your last wife. She get tired of you talking
to other women?
I'll be hiding in the bushes.

Name: Dave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 August 2010

Signalman
Thanks for your response.
If trying to do my job in protecting train crews and the public is
being a trouble maker, then I guess you're right!
Read the link.
I put myself and family through PURE HELL to "Do what's right" on
behalf of CSX.  I can't imagine how people veiw my efforts to stop CSX
Corporate Corrution as being a trouble maker or, just trying to make
money off the "Poor Ole Railroad" but, they do in order to discredit
my purpose. Hey! That's just a part of the game I guess.
I have a TON of stuff to come at you. PLEASE don't take it personal I
must use you as the target.
If I am able to prove beyond any doubt, then it makes no difference who
I am or what my true purpose is.  The information can be used to save
train crew and public lives. 
Trust me! It's going to get interesting!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 17 August 2010

Womanizer? Your an idiot. You really must be a trainmaster. I'm just
giving someone the truth about an occupation that is all demanding. It
is a safety concern. If a railroader doesn't have their mind totally
on the job it becomes dangerous for them and everyone around them.
I've seen it happen to many times. Heck it even happened to me once
with the last wife. I got rid of the wife no more problems. At least
back then we didn't have cellphones to be distracted on the job. I've
been on trains where I've had to listen to arguements between the
conductor and his wife/girlfriend which it was quite uncomfortable &
unpleasant. More info then I needed to know. The only thing I needed to
know was that conductors mindset was 100% to do the work not distracted
because the wife/girlfriend had a case of the arse.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 17 August 2010

conductorsgirl

This is a safety sight not a gossip collum.
RRJ and NoMo you seem to be womanizers. Any female gets on here and you
will discuss anything with her. Your wives know your texing other women?

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 17 August 2010

No easy answers. Once he goes to engine service he can pretty much
forget about yard jobs an any inkling of normality. This is the
railroad that's the way it is. He could go to another craft like
clerk, carmen, track worker ect...and start all over again at the
bottom of the seniority roster. I've never seen people do it but I'm
sure there has been a few. Why would someone hire on a job knowing it
requires traveling? Time away from home? That is puzzling. At the
interview session I'm sure it was spelled out. If he's nearing engine
service that means he's been out here a couple years. So, he should
know how it works. You say you don't nag but you contradicted yourself
by stating he already knows you don't like being alone and doing all
the house work. That's got to weigh on his mind. I'm suspecting you
met after he already worked for the railroad. Truth is if he stays your
going to have to do everything take care of the house, the children, pay
the bills, go to school & family functions alone ect...that is the
sacrifice you'll face. Sorry it isn't a rosey picture it never is.

Name: conductors girl
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 1-10 years
Posted: 17 August 2010

wow!! sounds like there are some grumpy old railroaders on here who are
still pissed at their ex-wives. I am 100% supportive of my man, and he
does not have the stress symptoms because I nag him bc I don't. I know
that its the last thing he needs. He knows that I don't like being home
alone and being responsible for every chore around the house, so there
is no point in me telling him. He wants to be home because he wants to
spend time with me and get a normal amount of sleep at night and not
constantly be called for work every second. He would like to be able to
plan our wedding without worrying about engine school and he would like
to be able to have a full day of work off atleast every few weeks or
so. I don't nag him about his job. I am on this site because we are
working together to find something that fits his lifestyle more. He
isn't one of the greedy railroaders who want to be at work every
second so he can financially support a life he doesn't give to live.
He just wants to make a decent living, and get to spend a little time
at home every once in a while. I appreciate all the helpful tips from
everyone. We are going to look into finding another position in CSX. I
wasn't aware of all the other options and I'm not sure he was aware
of some of them. I know the railroad has always been this way, but its
seemed to have tightened about 500% in the last year. He used to be
able to get off for events, and now its just not happening. Thanks
again for the help everyone! Let's try to get some things changed
around there.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 10-20 years
Posted: 17 August 2010

hAy thIss iz fouR al yoU peeopple who post oN CSSX SUkS., DU evverbody a
favor and  LERN TOO SPEL !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Name: signal man 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 1-10 years
Posted: 17 August 2010

Dave, I would not get my feelings hurt from a trouble starter. I and
many others including Mr Witherspoon that you keep throwing his name
around don't take much of what you say to heart. Mike and I know each
other very well and you dont need to name drop him to make it sound
like you have a valid point. Mike BTW is no longer with the RR and is
on disibilty pending retirement, but since you know so much I am sure
you are aware of that. 

On your X-ing problem, if your grandson is so concerned about a
crossing in GA, why did he not call the 1800 number posted on the sigh
at the crossing. Can he read?  

If indeed the X-ing did have  some type of strange problem to it a CSX
maintainer would be sure to work on it until problem is resolved.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 16 August 2010

Hey RRJ:

That's like giving you wife a tape measure so she can measure for new
curtains!!!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 16 August 2010

NoMo

I think he gave her some bullschidt that he was on a work train and
they cut it off every weekend. Problem was she handled all the bills in
the house that's why she found out his checks kept getting smaller
money was getting tight. This was back in the days when we made most
runs on weekends.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 16 August 2010

Hey RRJ:

Did his wife think he was at his "away from home terminal"?

Abuse of the system is what has prompted CSX to tighten the attendance
policy. Unfortunately everyone suffers because relatively few do the
abusing...of course the employees can petition the unions to surrender
the guarantee on the extra boards and mark off when ever they want.
That would also go a long way to abate the furloughs every fall.

Like it has been said, if you're going to sing the blues, you've got
to pay the dues!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 16 August 2010

LE 10-20

The 12 weeks FMLA unpaid leave is the maximun. CSX makes the final
determination on how much time off a person will be allowed. In my case
CSX came up with granting one 14 day streach and two 3 day periods of
time off within the year. I don't think a 26 year old would have a
chance of getting anything except being placed out of service
medically. If someone that age is having problems they don't need to
work out here. Besides it was his girlfriend complaining. I can bet
that relationship won't last. She doesn't sound very supportive.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 16 August 2010

NoMo

I knew a conductor that had FMLA because his wife had MS he was marked
off every weekend. Problem was his wife didn't know he had it. He
applied for it without telling her. It wasn't till his paychecks kept
getting smaller that she found out. Needless to say he doesn't have it
anymore or at least he doesn't use it very often. There's abuses in
everything that makes it difficult for those that really need it.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 August 2010

Hey RRJ;

You're right...I noticed it after I posted it and I had a great
anecdotal story.

We had an engineer that had FMLA who marked off every weekend.
This went on for some time until he let it slip that he had it because
he and his wife were trying to have a baby.

Another engineer on the way from the hotel to Gentilly, commented
that it must be nice to be able to lay around all weekend and have sex
with his wife. There was a punch thrown and two engineers OOS.
After several months the commenting engineer made it back to work. I
don't know whether or not he was made whole. The offending party, who
wasn't well liked by his peers, management or LC was in foreclosure
last I heard and I don't think he ever made it back.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 15 August 2010

An employee can get FMLA for himself if they are having medical
problems...Get a FMLA form and have your Doctor look it over..fill it
out..and the company will either grant it or wont...FMLA is a FEDERAL
program and the company cant screw with you when you mark off fmla..The
time off is 12 weeks unpaid leave taken all together or daily as
needed....deff something your man should look into if he is having all
those symptoms......

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 20-30 years
Posted: 15 August 2010

Conductors Girl,

The railroad is not all about T&E.

Have him apply for other jobs on CSX.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 15 August 2010

NoMo

FMLA can be used for the employee. CSX didn't grant it for my mom but
did grant it for me if I had returned to work. It wasn't much I think
they would of allowed 3 days off twice a year under FMLA. It was their
way to help make a decision to take my retirement. No regrets.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 15 August 2010

conductorgirl

He's 26 years old let him find another job if it's affecting his
health. Or, are you nagging him all the time because you don't do
things together? I'm sure it's tough on you. It's no picnic for him
he's young enough to move on not even close enough to worry about a
pension. FMLA it's not easy to get at 26 CSX would definitely look at
him as a liability. This job isn't for everyone it takes a special
type of person to work it and it take a special woman to put up with
it. I know a lot of railroades who have good marriages and their
spouses support them 100%. It sounds this is more about your doubts
then his. I've been there with a wife that left because she couldn't
handle it. I had to make a choice seeing I'd been on the railroad
longer than I knew her it was don't let the door hit you in the arse
on your way out. Railroad isn't going to change it's always been this
way we spend our lives waiting for the next run not having a clue when
we'll be back home. Last thing a railroader needs is problems at home
it's a distraction on the job which requires a person to be totally
alert to their surroundings.

Name: KYLE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 15 August 2010

To conductor girl,If your hubby is having these problems and he is going
to as long as he stays in T&E, Then i suggest he get another job on the
rr if he can, Some roads will let you transfer to another dept if they
need men in those depts or maby his LC can pull some strings to get
that done, Most other jobs on the rr do have reg hours, starting times,
2 days off per week, Ie engine house, car dept, m&w dept, yard
master,clerk, just to name a few, The only problem with doing that is
you will lose your seniority and start out on the bottom of the roster
in any dept you go to, you do however keep your pension,unemployment
benifits, vacation time intact.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 August 2010

FMLA is for the employee who has a close family member, spouse, child or
parent with severe medical issues.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 1-10 years
Posted: 14 August 2010

can we get it with his health problems or it has to be me or someone
other than him?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 14 August 2010

conductorsgirl: You can get the fmla info on the gateway. He can get it
if YOU have any health problems. Migraines are a common way.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 August 2010

Hey conductor girl:

If your boy friend has those health issues at 26 he needs to get
out...if he doesn't they'll carry him out on a gurney or a body bag.

Perhaps he can get a transfer...being a bridge tender is about as good
as it gets, good pay, ample OT and a regular schedule!

Name: conductorsgirl
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 1-10 years
Posted: 14 August 2010

Thanks to both of your for the response! We are trying desperatly to get
him on a yard job or any kind of job that would allow him to be home
sometimes. He has told me about the railroad divorce rates, and I am
not surprised at all. I can understand that a lot of women and men
would have a hard time staying close with this kind of pressure on the
marriage. Luckily for us, our quality of life is more important than
keeping up with the Joneses and we can happily lose the conductor pay
and the soon to be engineer pay. The man is 26 years old, and he says
he feel 45. He isn't the man he was when the attendance policy was
less strict and there were assigned jobs that would allow him to
atleast guess the the days he would be off (assuming no one bumped
him.) He is spacey, he is stressed, his blood pressure is out the roof,
his digestive system is completely jacked and he is at all times
exhausted, and anticipating work to call (which does not help us with
the fun things that soon to be newly weds should be doing every night)
We've just been saying "it will get better in a few months, something
will change" and so far its getting worse. Someone posted a few posts
down that CSX is trying to get rid of the lazy workers. Sounds to me
like this may be one of those guys who works to support the fancy
lifestyle that he pays for, but never gets to see. I don't think there
is anything lazy about not wanting to be the statistic for divorce and
earlier deaths amoung railroaders (due to the terribly unhealthy
lifestyle.) Can you give us any suggestions on FMLA? He wouldn't be
lying or faking a thing if he told the doctor that he has anxiety, high
blood pressure, sleep disorders, stress, and frequent nightmares about
trains. He really does, and its not fair. He is such a hard working
guy, its just not fair. How does he get FMLA? What will it do for him?
We don't want to be the statistic. Can you also give us suggestions
for him getting a yard job or something with a better schedule. Right
now, he has lots of seniority, but there are absolutly no assigned jobs
available (except conductor board or whatever its called)

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 August 2010

When this old man was there, I had no yard rights and there was no way
to escape the extra board. With more years a pool job could be bid, but
they were 24/7 also. Regular thru freight was a long way off, and they
did not run with much regularity either. Just the way RR's work, and
it ain't pretty most of the time.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 August 2010

Hey Conductorgirl:

Hear what she says. Your boy friend has a choice...you or the railroad.
A normal life and the railroad don't belong in the same sentence.

Hopefully your boy friend has enough seniority to hold a regular yard
assignment; if not you won't know if he's coming or going.

When I worked the road I was lucky to see my wife and family once a
week even though I was home every other day. I'd get home and everyone
was asleep or they would get home and I'd be asleep. I knew she still
lived there because I could hear her snoring.

I had been married for 22 years and my children were all 12+ when I
went to work for CSX so the "family time" was less demanding and
less
important.

Railroad marriages have one of the highest divorce rates of any
occupation and the younger you are the higher the rate. Yes the money
is good but there are more important things in life than money!

Good luck...

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 14 August 2010

Conductors Girl: 

That all sounds about right. I've worked for CSX 12 years. I share the
same belief that one should work to live, not live to work. I have been
in some stage of absenteeism discipline for most of that time. I am
lucky to have yard jobs to work: 5 days a week, two off, never  in a
hotel, and not on call. 

I could be a road engineer making 90 grand a year if I wanted but   the
"schedule" is inhumane, unsafe and driven by greed. Pool service
should be outlawed. No one should be on call 24 hours a day. There's
no way to be rested if you don't know when you're working. I'm sure
some terminals are better for scheduling trains than others but most
with large freight pools are crappy to work in. EVERY railroader falls
asleep while moving at one point or another. Many fall asleep
regularly. The problem is no one seems to give a shit. CSX is full of
greedy railroaders that have to live on the rails to pay for their
lifestyle that they couldn't possibly have time to enjoy. A government
and FRA that allows the railroads to police and regulate themselves,
even allowing them to investigate their own accidents and fatalities.
And not to mention a company that runs itself short handed at all times
on purpose.   

 There are ways out like FMLA if he can get it granted on an
intermittent basis. I've been able to balance it out by working yard
jobs for way less money or I would've been fired long ago. So I guess
it can be done with a little effort and a few attendance letters but
it's not easy.

Name: conductorsgirl
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 1-10 years
Posted: 14 August 2010

dear person that responded to me. are you a csx-wife? Are you being
sarcastic are are you sick of it too?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: CSX Contractor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 14 August 2010

Would somebody please call the CSX POLICE and complain about the illegal
drug use going on at the coal pier in Baltimore. Somebody is going to
get hurt or worse because of this unchallenged behavior.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 14 August 2010

Dear conductors girl, You and your husband to be, will never see each
other. You will miss all family functions. You will never be together
on holidays or weekends. Your fiance will ruin his health. If you have
the time to have children, they will never see their father. Everything
will fall on you. That's right, every little league ball game, every
birthday, every anniversary, and every other event that makes life
worth living will be taken from him. In order to work for csx, he must
totally prostitute himself for their money.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 1-10 years
Posted: 14 August 2010

what i meant to say is he gets 10/14 vaca days, but ends up having to
take more than that to get the few days before off to make sure he
won't get called. Isn't there another way for them to do this?

Name: Conductors Girl
E-mail: Cincygallovesyou@gmail.com
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 1-10 years
Posted: 14 August 2010

Hi. I am a fiance of a conductor. We are trying to figure out of this
job is worth the crap he and I go through. I wanted to get your
opinions. From what I understand, our division of CSX has pretty much
taken off all of the assigned jobs, and on top of that, they created an
attendance policy that says you can't be unavailble for more than one
day in a month period. Holy crap!! Is that humane? I understand that if
you have 5 starts in a 5 day period or something, you get a day or two
off, but he never reaches that because he gets stuck sitting in a filty
bedbug ridden hotel room and it starts that over. We NEVER know when he
is going to be off, so we are losing chances to plan fun things with
each other and with friends, he has absolutly NO sleeping schedule, so
he comes home and is a complete zombie, sleeps for 8 hours or so and
wakes up and gets lunch packed, called a few hours later and hes gone
again. We are planning a wedding next year, and I can't help but
wonder if this is really what life should be like. He gets the 10 or 14
or whatever vacation days Sure we like the money (I work full time also
at a 8-5 job)and we like the retirement, but this schedule just seems
completely inhumane. He never has time to just be at home enjoying the
house he is working his @ss off to pay for, he never has a weekend to
rest, and never really has a full day off. I understand that many
people are saying that this is the price to pay for the benefits of
CSX, but are you really living your life the way you are and enjoying
it? We only have 70/80 years on this earth and railroaders spend 40
years of it living to work. Shouldn't you be working to live? You just
don't get the time to live. I just think that its going to be nearly
impossible to have kids because if I am working, there will be no
schedule to offer a daycare as to when "dad" can watch the kids. And
will "dad" ever be at any of his games? And will "dad" ever have
time to just hang out or will be always be "resting" to get called
back out? At this rate, we won't even have time or energy to make any
babies!! ANYWAY- I just wonder how you all deal with this, and how your
wives deal with it. i understand there are plenty of men in this world
that work seven days a week, but adding the fact that you are working
12 hour shifts, then sleeping in a dirty hotel for 12 hours and working
12 hours again, you never get to spend time at home. Some men have
ladies in both cities and that probably makes it easier on them, but
this just is not human at all. There are so many health risks to
working exhausted and never sleeping at the same time. What do you guys
think?? help...

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 14 August 2010

To the individual who posted "CSX is the safest railroad" , you are
obviously a company thug. If you really want to see how safe csx is,
visit their coal pier fiasco in Maryland. They have the worlds record
for employee turnover. It's probably because they're so "safe."

Name: Dave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 13 August 2010

Signalman

Where are you?
Did I hurt your feelings again by asking you to contact the signalman
in Kingsland and place a stop and flag before he kills a train crew at
williams Rd.?

Do your FREAKING JOB MAN!!!!!!!!!

Name: harriman
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 13 August 2010

I think Jack Vierling and Bob Frulla are plants for the NS designed to
keep CSX from winning the coveted Harriman award. Hard to win the gold
when you are getting 3 personal injuries in one day. 

Safety first until its time to good the work done!!!!

Name: CSX is the Safest Railroad
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 13 August 2010

I just checked out this awesome site made by CSX. It's www.csxsafe.com.
This proves that they are all about safety. I think CSX is a very well
run organization. So there is no need for this phony website.

Name: Sam
E-mail: ezonner@yahoo.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 13 August 2010

Dave,
I haven't talked to you in a long time. Checked out Google this
morning, and found several articles with your name in them, regarding
CSX in Florida. I'm retired now. Send me an Email sometime and bring
me up to date.

Sam

Name: Dave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 12 August 2010

The time is 2:17 pm 8/12/10

At this time there is a crossing failure occuring in Kingsland Ga. on
Williams St.

My grandson just called me and said an Amtrak Train went through the
crossing and the gates didn't go down until after Amtrak had passed.

FIRST! CSX you'd better issue a stop and flag on this crossing until
the circuit failure is resolved PERMANENTLY! That includes Amtrak.
It is not acceptable for a CSX Signalman to go out there and perform
tests and report back that the "Crossing is working as intended."
releasing this crossing to kill a train crew.

Signalman:
The crossing circuit in use here doesn't qualify as a "fail safe"
circuit does it?  Protect the train crews using this line in Kingsland
GA.! Contact the signalman in this area and tell him he'd better
follow the Fed Regs.. If he don't know them, GOOGLE CFR's Title 49,
234.225 and 234.203. If he doesn't understand the interpretation
contact his supervisor.  He WILL be held responsible.

Name: Dave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 12 August 2010

NoMo

It would be the Beverly Hillbillies in reverse.

The wife and I have spent the past two years creating a Happy Place in
the mountains. Two miles to the black top road.  And you guys thought I
spent my life pounding a computer and pounding on railroads. ;) ;)

Yep got oil, gas and coal.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 12 August 2010

Hey Dave:

Get back to the dirt and grow your own. 

When I read your post The intro to the Beverly Hillbillies came to
mind. You don't have oil in them parts do you?

Name: Should I or Not
E-mail: todatrash@gmail.com
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 11 August 2010

Ok just got my offer letter and Redi in Sept; Father 35 yrs +, gramps 40
yrs +; great gramps 19 yrs legs were cut off by a car, am I making a
mistake by joining, not desprate for job and have education. Let me
know

Name: Dave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 11 August 2010

Signalman

Glad to see you back. Sorry if I hurt your feelings, that's not my
intent.

Will you PLEASE work with me here.
Apparently you don't realize a few things about signals. Not to worry
I didn't see it until Mike Witherspoon (Nashville Signals Engineer)
explained it to me. You know Mike? I'll help you the same way Mike and
other Signal Supervisors helped me. OK?

You said
Fail-Safe is: if the circuits can't detect the next train (fails) the
warning system will go to it's most restrictive mode and flash the
lights forever. That pretty fair of what you said?

Now just a simple question for you OK?
If a vandal shunts the approach circuit the lights will activate and
then go off. Will the circuit then be able to reactivate the lights and
provide a minimum of 20 seconds warning to motorist?

Name: Dave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 11 August 2010

NoMo

We can it. My son got 2 last year. 
Canned deer, deer sausage, hog sausage. MMMM!
Built a cellar and raised a huge garden.
Putting stuff up.
While working with Gov for the past humteen years I gained information
that says "It's too late to turn this big ship around."
Can't eat money.
CSX was good enough to provide money for a 725 acre farm and house, so
I don't owe anything. Hogs and deer came with it. ;)

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 11 August 2010

Web Master,

Pines- Nelson still the same....

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 11 August 2010

Hey Dave:

Get some sausage made...you wont be sorry!

Name: Dave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 11 August 2010

RRJ

Sorry for the slow response, got my first wild boar this morning and
had to clean it.  Put some on a wood cook stove, MMMMM!
Sorry this is a safety site so my disclaimer is "The pig entered into
an unsafe zoan. ;)

Response to your post which points out some areas that should have been
adressed years ago.

"The union that should be involved is the Signalmans Union"
I agree with YOU but, the Signalman just posted again. I'll see if
he's willing to discuss FACTS.  He will cut and run or, start throwing
dirt rather than as a defense.  If he does this then we have our answer.
 Why I would suggest the train crew unions is simply because the
railroads are making you work under extremely hazardous conditions that
could kill the crew and public.

"Could a Signalman be liabel if it was ever proven he performed
substandard work?"
Every single time a Signalman responds to a "credible" report of a
crossing or signal failure and performs tests without making a repair
he could be fined $5,000.00 and face 2 years prison for just filing a
false report only.  A Signalman knowingly leaving a signal with no
repair that fails and kills someone could be prosecuted for negligent
homicide at the state and federal levels. (Disclaimer) Not an attorney
but, this WILL come about (in time) and I will personally do my dead
level best to make sure justice is served. 

"You mention attorneys giving the train crews the same BS like brakes,
lights, etc.."
The attorneys know that eventually they will get an out of court
settlement IF they don't tick the railroad off. They certainly don't
want to mess up a given by entering a Techy territory. This is why the
train crews get deposed rather than a Signalman who is actually the
guilty party when the gates and lights fail. Notice in the Henrietta
accident the FRA and CSX went after the train crew. Didn't go after
Signals who shunted out the aproach circuit and left it to kill two
peopledid they?

"Cameras on the train will help show when signals don't work."
That will happen ONLY when someone sneaks the film to the media forcing
the FRA to FESS UP. Many crossings has an event recorder which shows a
crossing failure, but CSX never reports a short or no warning time to
the FRA. The FRA responds to high profile accidents only.  Looks to me
like Big Brothers intent is to monitor the crews. A railroad WOULD
submit an accident film IF it shows the lights and gates were working
and somebody ran the crossing.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 11 August 2010

RRJ,
There was some drinking, most trips there was none. Everyone knew who
to look out for and did just that. No one was ever turned in for
drinking, no one ever complained, rule G has been there for many years.
One engineer did get fired for sleeping, after I left the RR. I really
liked the man, he was an off duty drinker, and never touched a drop at
work or at the hotel. He was just sleepy all of the time. He was sleepy
when he fired at 25 and sleepy when he ran at 35. When he turned 52 a
brakeman turned him in. He was fired after 27 years for sleeping,he
would give you his shirt or money if ya asked. Old brakeman(ASSHOLE)
was sick and tired of walking to the engine and waking him up and
turned him in refusing to work with him. He never got back because he
had a history and every one knew it, just nothing in writing. I am
still pissed about that. 
I can remember standing at the console with the light on talking to
him
He loved to talk, and run at the same time. Just a really Good person.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 11 August 2010

Kyle

That was a long time ago. Things changed after Ricky Gates testified
before congress to save his arse from a long prison sentence after
killing & injuring hundreds of people on Amtrak. There is no comparison
today to what it was like. It was a shocker to hire on and see all the
drinking ect..in plain view back then. We also had 4-5 people on board
trains compared to only two now a days. We looked out for each other.
The railroads back then were just as guilty they turned a blinds eye to
what was going on. No sense in reliving the past it's gone for good.

Name: KYLE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 10 August 2010

After reading things on this site it should be known that there are a
lot of peeps in all depts who ignore the rules or don,t pay attention
to them and these are the few who make the headlines and make all of us
look bad in the public eyes, Oh yes i have heard it too when you tell a
non railroad person you work for the rr a lot of them say you are the
guys who wreck trains all the time, They can say this because they have
not 1 clue on how a rr operates, But yes we do have some dumb peeps
working for the rr and its a shame they did not get weeded out when
they hired on, Some are even accident prone as i have seen that and
worked with a few of them myself, Always made sure i stayed awake and
alert when working with them and bad things still would happen thank
god it was only minor yard derailments and run switches.

And then there was and still are the cronic alcoholics in T&E they are
the worst to work with and how they get away with it puzzles me as i
have seen them drinking on the locomotives and even in the shantys plus
a few i seen smoking grass on road trips and they don,t get caught, Go
figure.

I will never forget my 1st road job as i was only 18 and had 1 week on
the rr, I was the front brakey and the hooger was a old head about
ready to retire, we had a res signal going into a running track and
this old hogger took us up that runner at 40mph and when we got to the
other end it was a red board and another train was pulling into the
yard, He dumped the air and we got stopped inches from the red home
signal, I knew he was wrong but me as young dumb kid i was to afraid to
do anything and i know now that if we had plowed into that other train i
would have been dead or fired as those would have been the only 2
optians, It should have clicked in my mind when we started that run as
i did hear the conductor tell the engineer get us in to make last call,
I was working with 2 big time alcohlics as i later found that out and
both of them died from liver failure before they got a pension check, I
mean for GHC the company had to know these 2 old heads were alcohlics as
many times other trainmen would talk about how much they boozed it up
and as you know on the rr a thing like that spreads like wildfire to
even the managment people but they got away with it.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 10 August 2010

Robert Pines AKA Dave......go figure....

Webmaster comment: Posted from Pahokee FL... Go Figure... Say what you want about Dave and Pines, they are both real people. And they are two different people.

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 10 August 2010

Landers Rd. (DOT# 664 414K) Near Sullivan, Crawford Co.
BNSF
Feasibility study to upgrade from private to public crossing/install
active warning devices $200,000

Name: Robert Pines
E-mail: btpino40@gmail.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 10 August 2010

Landers Rd - near Sullivan, Crawford Co - BNSF
DOT# 664 414K 9
Upgrade from private to public crossing and install active warning
devices
$200,000

Name: signalman
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 1-10 years
Posted: 10 August 2010

I have stayed away for a couple weeks basically because I was tired of
Dave's rambling in trying to stir up stuff and twist what I was
saying. I do have a new point though...... CSX or any other railroad
are not required to put up crossings ANYWHERE... this is the states
problem.. We only install them after the state has given money to pay
for them. A small business can pay to get crossings set up but it is
not going to be cheap so they usually do things like hand painted signs
and flasing yellow lights. We cant protect stupid people.. I dont step
out on a busy street without looking both ways or touch a hot stove I
learned that a long time ago when I was an infant. If a crossing
malfnctions and someone gets hurt then I am for helping those people
but too many times it is from someone screwing up and not paying
attention. Just like in the case where MOW illegally jumpered a
crossing... this was tragic but it was from an illegal activity... We
all as workers need to pay more attention to what we are doing to make
the job as safe as possible. It is so easy to pass blame on getting
fired and wrote up yet not look at why we go in that boat i.e. rules
violations. I have read about how Signalman are assholes and we set you
guys up. I have never been involved in anything even close to that or
heard of that. I have seen alot of accidents though from human error
and these people need to quit blaming all others. Here is one a train
crew near Nashville a few weeks ago backed out on to the main from a
yard track. They realized they pushed out an tried to get back in the
yard. When doing so they derailed over a switch and ripped out one of
our switches. Once the investigation started they found out that the
engineer was in the Alcohol Program... This is usually no big deal and
it is a good place to be if you have a problem. However he was drunk
and had ust gotten back from being fired for being
drunk......................................................................
 I wonder how many times that asshole has posted on here bitching about
how bad a job CSX is although he is a compulsive rule breaker. I don't
want to be anywhere near one of these guys while I am working. I also
dont think all trainmen are drunks and assholes. I dont feel like all
signalman should be labeled this way either. I do think we have a lot
of bad apple here that may put thoughts in our heads so we turn on the
company and blame them even though it may be our fault sometimes. Just
something to think about.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 10 August 2010

Dave

It would seem to me the union who should be involved is the Brotherhood
of Railroad Signalmen. They represent the signalmen and it would be in
their interest to make sure their members are performing legit work.
Couldn't a signalmen be personally held libel if it became known they
were required to perform substandard work? No one can fault the train
crew. We sometimes get the usual lawyer BS they didn't stop or they
never applied the brakes before the hit. I've seen both of those
excuses used to try an bolster a settlement. One positive (sort of) CSX
has installed cameras on the front of most locomotives this is evidence
if a person ran the gates or if the protective devices weren't
working. It works both ways. The bad side of cameras it allows the
railroad to spy on it's workers. Big Brother has arrived.

Name: Dave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 10 August 2010

RRJ

I hear you loud and clear. Train crews have enough to worry about and
the politicians and FRA SHOULD take care of this safety issue. Since
train crews know little about crossings and have NOOO control it is up
to people like myself (CSX Signal Department) to sound the warning.  I
have been to the politicians, FRA, media, etc. on your behalf. It has
done very little to stop people from trying to beat the train or being
told by the warning system it is safe to cross when it's not.  I am
the one picked by CSX signalmen to take care of this problem. When
it's resolved I'll GLADLY go away!!!!
Let me change strategy a bit.
What can we all do to stop people from running in front of trains?
The FRA statics show a vehicle pulls in front of a train and is hit
every 90 minutes.
Over 90% of all railroad fatalities are at crossings.
More people are injured or killed on railroad property/crossings than
any other industry, by far.
None of us want to see this happen and even though train crews are
virtually powerless to do anything about it, you do have a union that
can force railroads to AT LEAST follow the fail safe rule at crossings
and Signals (Which I STILL haven't gotten to.)
I will help the union, and I will help you to become informed.
Now, I have a suggestion on how to stop alomost all drivers from
running in front of a train. Simply put STOP signs at all crossings and
let local police right tickets.  Can anyone tell me why a simple STOP
sign is not used?
I'm on the train crews side but the CSX Signal guys aren't backing me
so I've got to give you guys the warning myself. You'd THINK they
would at LEAST POST and back what I'm telling you. It's Signals job
(100%) to protect you and the public.  When we can't we'd BETTER warn
you. Make sense?  Sorry about the Techy stuff, I'm doing the best I
can. Sorry about the long posts also.  You can't imagine the brain
cells I've used up trying to figure out how to warn you.

Name: Tor
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 09 August 2010

Sowers is on the Huntington Division as Division RFE, he is listed in
both East and West C&O timetables. Why don't you call
him(304-522-5185)? I'm sure he would love to hear from an ole
"friend" like you.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 09 August 2010

Dave

I'm not defending anyone. Trains crews have enough on their plate to
worry about dealing with CSX like constant harrassment, unions that
don't protect them, phone calls at all hours day & night disturbing
their rest ect...last thing they need is the hypothetical technical
side of things. If a crew is involved in a crossing accident they
don't need to be dweeling on issues that don't concern them only
important issue is knowing they didn't do anything wrong. What you're
discussing is for lawyers & politicians their the ones who can make
change. You ask me if I thought CSX was always right? You can't prove
CSX is always wrong. The only accident I was involved in that was
totally CSX fault was at a farm crossing. CSX was putting in new track
at this farm crossing they hadn't put asphalt down and the owners
vehicle got stuck. The owner was heading to his field to do some dove
hunting his car got stuck he grab his stuff and sat by a tree and
watched it get destroyed. He wasn't dumb enough to sit in the car.
Sight triangles that was the big discussion when I first came on this
site years ago. I haven't changed my opinion if the gates are lowered
and the lights are flashing people shouldn't attempt fate by going
around it. If I'm driving in my car on a country road at 55 mph in a
blind curve and someone pulls out in front of me I might have some
options hit the brakes, swerve in the other lane ect...on a train you
don't. Should the state be required to cut down every tree on that
road to prevent it? No easy answers.

Name: Dave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 August 2010

RRJ

I thought we were on the same side of safety. Guess not.
This is the CSX-Sucks site not the UP, NS, etc..  
This is a site where CSX Employees are allowed to air their complaints
about poor safety.  I'm pointing out safety issues, am I to assume by
your last post that you are defending CSX when I have proven they are
endangering you and your conductor by using a control circuit that can
get you and you're conductor killed?
One of us is on the wrong web site, or maybe you might consider posting
under one of the other options on the front page.
Could be I miss-read your post which sounded like you think CSX is
never at fault in a crossing accident.
That's a simple enough question for you.
Do you think CSX is never at fault in a crossing accident? I don't
need a dance in your answer, this is a YES or NO.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 August 2010

Hey Vern:

Car repair for less than a year? Robert Pines hasn't posted on this
site in well over a year...try again!

Name: vern
E-mail: 
Employed as: Car repair, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 08 August 2010

Why does this DAVE guy sond like the foamer PINES that wrote many things
in the past about grade crossing accidents, one and the same? yea i
think so.....

Name: none
E-mail: none
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 07 August 2010

is that sorry a-hole Mat Sowers still working for the R.R.

Name: Lucky
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 07 August 2010

CSX will screw you over 3 ways from sunday. I've had over $4,000 in
claims for over 2 years now and the union nor the company wants to pay
them. They want us to work by a contract but yet they continue to right
rules and policies that bypass every agreement we have.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 07 August 2010

Dave

You talking apples and oranges. Railroad tracks and crossings intersect
it'll always be that way. I also haven't a clue what the 78 year old
woman was thinking apparently she wasn't thinking when crossing the
tracks. Get over it Dave it's a private crossing you always want to
blame CSX. There was a lot that property owner could do but choose not
to. The railroad put up cross bucks in no way shape or form are they
required to do any more. Leave the train crews alone you haven't a
clue how we feel. I've never taken it personal even the suicide. More
like anger that a selfish prick could involve my conductor and me in
his bullschidt. He was a coward. The auto's & trucks they were an
adreniline rush never thought twice about it except it's another war
story. No guilt because we didn't do anything wrong neither did CSX.
You never talk about the UP, NS, BNSF, KCS, CP, CN ect...it's always
CSX. If one is tampering equipment all of them are doing the same.

Name: Dave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 07 August 2010

RE: RRJ
A long explaination here, you don't have to read it.

Let me drop back a bit here RRJ and say "I'm the best, ONLY friend
(from Corporate) that train  crews have, not only that, I'm the best
friend the CSX Signalmen have."  Posters knock CSX on this site
because of management and they are right in many of their posts. CSX is
ran by divisions with oversight from Headquarters in Jax..  Most hear of
Jax (The Ivory Tower) but have no clue as to what comes out of there. 
Wouldn't it be nice is someone from the Ivory Tower would take a stand
for the CSX Employees?  That would be me, trying my best to explain how
things really work, in a way employees can understand that are not
privy to insider information.  I gave up a very good job (that I truely
loved) in order to stop a few CSX Employees from destroying our company.
 It's been a LONG, HARD, ROUGH ROW TO HOE, especially as I progressed
things and ran into government officials and powerful politicians who
have done everything in their power to discredit me.  Enough said? I am
your guys best friend. I am here to help you and CSX, not to tare down.

Back to the crossing accident:
I have no clue as to what actually happened.  I do know what didn't
happen. 
A 77 year old woman DIDN'T try to beat the train.
The owner of the business DIDN'T protect the crossing because they are
forbidden by Federal Laws and CSX to do anything to the crossing.

What about the train crew who has to live with seeing an older woman
dissapear under their train? Isn't there someone in Jax. that
recognizes this danger to train crews and can do something about
protecting?  You knew the dangers in advance. Is there anyone in Jax.
who you could report to and get something done? The answer is NO.
There's not even so much as a program to remove sight obstructions at
crossings that are a huge contributor to crossing accidents. I saw a
Signal Maintainer the other day, on his knees pulling up grass with his
bare hands so the lights could be seen.

As a former resident of the Ivory Tower, I worked with these people on
a daily basis.  I am here to tell you CSX spends millions every year on
a propaganda tool that is EXTREMELY effective in making everyone think a
77 year old woman had a rush and was trying to beat the train like some
17 year old kid.  Is this propaganda effective? It has YOU focussing on
anyones fault except CSX. THINK! Should CSX have tried everything in
their power to protect the train crew and the Amtrak riders who could
have been killed had the train derailed?
Don't concentrate on crazy crossing runners, but rather WHAT is the
company doing to protect the crews. ANYTHING? As a former Crossing
Designer, I promise you the crossing could be protected by a car
battery, relay and a set of lights for a minimal cost.  Would that have
give warning to the driver? I can't answer that, but in the interest of
crew safety, CSX should have taken the initiative.

There is actions that you guys can take in order to protect CSX, the
public and employees.  You still have a UNION USE IT!  Your union is
the only  enforcement agency left. Everyone needs to STOP knocking the
union, THEY ARE the union.  The single reason you don't collectively
use the unions to hold railroads responsible is because the propaganda
used by railroads have you completely focussed on accidents ALWAYS
being the drivers fault.  I can't even go to the next problem of
explaining how CSX is endangering you with a Signal Sytem that Is not
fail safe, "Always being the train crews fault" until we get The
effect of propaganda out of the way. 
You know why the Signalman quit posting?  He was causing the effect of
propaganda to be eleminated, knew he was guilty and crawled back into
his little hole to protect his job.  If I'm ever wrong in a post, I
will GLADLY admitt it.  If I'm wrong on something I've said about the
cause of an accident I will post it.
You want to know about the bad things OR many good things of CSX ask
and I'll do my best to answer honestly.
Yes, I know there will be posts to try and discredit on what I've said
here. Bring it on!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 06 August 2010

Dave

Don't you think the owner of the property needs to take
responsibility? Why is it always about CSX? I rode that line for 9
years no one got hit at that location. I only made a statement that
during the hours the greenhouse/produce was open there was a lot of
stupid people. Eat right stay fit die anyways. It'll be a typical case
of go after the one who has the deepest pockets the railroad. I'm
appalled at the owners arrogance of knowing the crossing on to the
property was dangerous that she didn't take action to protect her
customers.

Name: Dave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 06 August 2010

RE: RRJ

You say the crossing is the most dangerous on the subdivision?
You say more than 8 trains have hit a vehicle here?
Shouldn't CSX take some action to protect it's employees if it's
known this crossing is ultra hazardous?

Name: 
E-mail: flynusmc@aol.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 06 August 2010

Maybe CSX should call themselves CSWrecks!
God help us all, their track is crap and so is the management!
How Tommorrow Moves my ass!
They could screw up a wet dream!
Im surprised they stay in business!
Good Luck ......
Whatever!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 06 August 2010

Carolyn Hunt is just shifting blame. It's easy to blame the railroads.
I've been by the farm on Rt 60 driving in my car and have never seen
any warning signs. I'm sure CSX placed the cross bucks after the first
vehicle was hit. Carolyn Hunt stated there has been 8 vehicles involved
in crossing accidents at that location. You're absolutely right they
could place a produce stand on their property along Rt 60. During
daylight hours in the spring-summer-fall it's one of the most
dangerous crossings private or public on the Peninsula Subdivision with
one of the most unobstructed views at a crossings. The view of the
tracks on both sides of the crossing is wide open for at least 1/3 of a
mile. Even AMTRAK running 70 mph can be seen from a distance running in
both directions. Knowing AMTRAK if a car was approaching the crossing
private or not the engineer would of been blaring the horn giving
warning. We do the same of freight trains because 90% of the time cars
entering or leaving the property try to beat the train. Old women,
young women, families, farm workers ect...I've seen it all at this
location. In fact no train stops and blocks this crossing trains are
required to stop short if they aren't lined up a Norge they are
notified by the TD when it's lined up to proceeded east.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 06 August 2010

Hey locomotive engineer 20-30 yrs, where the hell did you learn to
spell?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 06 August 2010

Hey RRJ:

I thought you might be familiar with the crossing. I think what's
interesting here is the inconsistency or complete lack of consistency
in the laws concerning private crossings. State laws 
vary, according to the article in Virginia the only law concerning
private crossings is it has to be elevated...signs are not required.

You mentioned the crossing had cross bucks and the article stated
the property owner erected hand painted signs warning of the crossing
but would not allow CSX or Amtrak to use horns or bells. Perhaps the
property owners need to put their produce stand in town to avoid any
potential liability! 

The other interesting point is how the media skews their reporting
to promote their own agendas...believe me, I have been watching it
on the local and national news since 4/20 when the DWH blew up. The
facts sometimes have nothing to do with how the tale is told!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 06 August 2010

Holy crap!!! Carolyn Hunt who owns the farm "I wish CSX would take care
of the crossing and make it obvious there is a crossing there". Is this
woman smoking crack? Come on people it's double track people have to
cross the tracks to enter her property isn't that a big enough sign.
The crossing meets the federal requirements it's elevated there
aren't any visual obstructions. I'm sorry for the loss of life but
the article posted is misleading.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 06 August 2010

The crossing at the farm in Norge, Va is a private crossing. It has
cross bucks there is nothing blocking the view on both sides in both
directions of the rail for at least 1/3 of a mile it's straight track.
We're not even allowed to use the horn or bell because the owners
complain to CSX. Cars coming to or from the farm see a train they
excelerate to try and beat it. There's a difference between a public
and private crossing it's the property owner whose responsible for the
safety of their customers. The owner of the property complaining is a
load of crap. Why don't they put up signs warning their customers of
oncoming trains? They have plenty of signs promoting their produce.
It's a case of their afraid of getting sued because they are the
responsible party. I worked that subdivision from 2000-2009. There are
4 private crossings at this location within one mile 2 belong to this
farm the only crossing that paid for the railroad to install gates and
lights was the Williamsburg Pottery they took it further they even have
signs warning people not to run around the gates. It's easy to blame
the railroad in this case it's not Amtrak or CSX fault it's the
property owner.

Name: GGG
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 05 August 2010

And another thing, concerning flagging a crossing. I've seen it more
times than I care to, when a Conductor tries to flag a crossing, the
people driving vehicles totally disregard him. Drive right by him even
though he's flagging them down. If he wouldn't have moved at times,
they would have run him over. We do our best to get the license plate
numbers and report them. 
   You Conductors and Engineers know this and we see it everyday.

Name: GGG
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 05 August 2010

Engineers and Conductors see this disrespect from the public for
Railroad Crossing everyday.  Private Crossings or Crossing with
flashers flashing, and gates down. People either don't look before
going over a crossing. Or they look, see the train, and try to beat it.
On double tracks they see a train pass and before waiting and looking if
something is coming on the other track, cross and get hit by a train
going the other direction. At times, they stall on the track, stay in
the car instead of getting their butts off the seat and out of the car
away from tracks. Use common sense people.
    And the Engineers and Conductors have to live seeing this everyday.
What irks me is when people start blaming the railroad or train crews
for this total lack of disregard for railroad crossings by the public.
You think you know what your talking about with this blame game, but
you really don't.

Name: Locomotive Engineer
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 05 August 2010

Ok, lets first stop the infighting here about unions. Everyone is right
in one way or another.  Yes unions are having a very ruff time of it. 
But and I stress the word but, labour unions were dying in the 1930's
right and yet here they are. next point it is the republican party and
big coperations that are trying to bust out unions or should we say
get
rid of them. The Bush Administration gave LOTS of money to the DOL to
try and find a way to get rid of the labour movement. Just like his
administration said there were WMD's in iraq, there were none but he
did what he wanted anyway.  The Republican Party brought illegals by
the thousands in to take away good union jobs. Where do you ask look
at
any disturbution center they close there American plant and move it to
Commi China then reopen a disturbution center back here with a few
wealthy white republican "small" business owners then they hire
illegals and there cousins at cheap labour prices with no benifits. 
Look at any TV show on cabel where they show facotory's (any left)
the
managment is white and the workers are illegals ie cheap labour. This
why the Democrats are doing a very good job right now. Dont argue this
point becuse people are slowly (painfuly) getting back to work, not as
fast as many of you may like but the Bush Adminstration sold our
entire
country out. that is why it was a land mark vicotry for the Democrats.
Now please dont say something dumb like saying all democrats are tree
huggers becuse they are not.  The Republican's want cheap labour, no
unions, small business's to get wealthy at the expense of there
employees ( why they hate health care reform) and they want all
Americans to be poor. This is why the Republicans funded RECORD
numbers
of new jails and prisons? The Democrats give hope to so many of us.
yes
it will take and yes it is a changing time this is why education in
unions and lawyers are so important right now. So stop your Bull shit
NoMo and come out of your tree for a second to look around you. We are
all in the RR industry or related to it.  Stop focusing on one person
and stop being a rightous asshole all of the time. U come onto a union
web site and say bad things about unions, well Mr help fix it stop
undoing it. The more some of you run your fucking mouths the more dumb
we all look.  Step up organize people go to the short line RR's and
help organize them. Dont blame your union officers.  Go out and find
companys and businese and educate them on what a good union can do.
And
yes you can do it. become a leader not a follower like NoMo and so
many
others. Coperate wants you to cry baby and infight you stupid idiots
wake the hell up. Step up find work for your local. Jesus Christ why
is
it so many workers just sit back and vllame blame blame go out and get
companys to sign up. it is legal and heartful help anyone of all races
beliefs and preferences.  If you see a scab company doing illegal work
or unsafe work take pictures of them and get them to your local OSHA
office right away and then follow up.  People have the right to a safe
work enviorment. STEP UP  GOD Bless you all

Name: LABOUR
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 05 August 2010

Contact your local OSHA department when you see illegal or scabs
doing unsafe work.  Look to make sure scabs have on proper safty
glasses, safety boots ( when warrented) , gloves , reflective vest
ect.
make sure they are tied off if working off the ground.  Find safety
viloations on your job that non union or coperation U are working for
has violated safe work acts. Report these right away to OSHA and
FOLLOW
UP. Dont waste your time becuse a co worker safety could be in doubt.
Dont let coperate jekr off's scare you away from reporting unsafe
work
conditions. This is why unions are so good they train there people to
be safe and have safety training.  Most of your "small"
businesses or scab companys dont have any safety training an dont
enforce it. So when you see a safety violation report it DONT
WAIT!!!!!!!!  contact OSHA!!!! ASAP.  By law you cannot have any
retaliation by the company. Scab companys treat there employess like
dirt and you have to ask your self if your componay is treating you
safetly on the job.  They would write you up ina heart beat to further
there white collar carrear so report them.   Lets all work together
for
a better and safer workplace.  your safety counts, there bonus check
for
finishing quick does not.  If you need help other's contact local
unions
to organise.  WOW what a great topic. and yes this affects all of you
too.  REMMEBER ALWAYS FOLLOW UP WITH OSHA AFTER YOU REPORT TO MAKE
SURE
SOMETHING IS BEING DOWN.  THIS IS A PRIORITY.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 05 August 2010

Half the people on this board are trolls. Go read a rule book, then
post.

Name: Nonya
E-mail: nonya
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 05 August 2010

Why should you expect CSX to stop killing people at crossings when their
trains hit and kill their own employees, sometimes three in the same
day? Explain that.....EMPLOYEES feel they cannot stop a train or slow
down with out getting fired ...

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 05 August 2010

The elderly woman should have been in a nursing home where it was safe. 
One more off the Social Security role right guys?
We can't protect every stupid driver and granny who refuses to
stop,look and listen.  If granny had simply looked both ways she could
have beat a 70 mph Amtrak.

You guys don't worry, we have a CSX claims agent at the families house
to make an offer to pay for grannies burial.  If they'll just sign this
little old release!
Besides we have an endemnity clause with Amtrak that says if Grannies
kids sue us Amtrak has to pay.
Just think!  These idiots want us to blow the horn at private
crossings.  That takes air which is made from the engine, which runs on
diesel fuels and that costs MONEY!  
STOP, LOOK, LISTEN AND LIVE GRANNIES.
Disclaimer
This message has been paid for by OLI, who uses tax dollars to pay for
the messages.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 05 August 2010

Family warned CSX about deadly crossing 

NORGE, Va. -- A woman killed here Saturday (July 31) when a passenger
train struck her car marks only the most recent time a train has
tangled with a car at the crossing, WVEC.com reported. 
Investigators said 78-year-old Doris Antczak was going to buy produce
off Richmond Road when an Amtrak passenger train hit her car, killing
her Saturday. 

There is a history of accidents at the railroad crossing, owned by CSX,
according to the family that runs the adjacent farm and produce stand. 

They have been asking CSX for years to make the crossing safer, even
erecting hand-painted signs warning of the tracks. 

Hundreds of cars going to Hill Pleasant Farm cross the tracks each day,
according to the James City County Fire Department. 

Carolyn Hunt, who owns the farm, says she knows of eight incidents
involving trains and vehicles. 

One time, a train smashed into a pickup truck. 

"I wish CSX would take care of the crossing and make it obvious that
there's a crossing out there," Hunt said. 

Because the crossing cuts through the private property, federal and
state law is almost silent about safety measures such as warning
lights, gates or requiring conductors blow horns at the crossing. 

CSX did not return multiple calls Monday from WVEC.com. 

Virginia law only has one rule for railroad crossings cutting through
private property. 

The tracks must be raised higher than street-level. 

Federal and state law do not require signs or signals. 

(The preceding report by Patrick Terpstra appeared on the Web site
WVEC.com on August 2, 2010.) 
 
August 4, 2010

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 04 August 2010

Is Matt Sanders fired yet for what he did?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 04 August 2010

Dave,

I think you've sniffed one too many jock straps....

Name: New layoff policy is BS
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 04 August 2010

ok so if you dont work you dont make money.  Why is CSX doing this
bullshit?  Now it hurts the guys who hardly ever layoff and when an
emergency comes up they either have to use a personal day or vacation. 
WE NEED TO HAVE A SYSTEM WIDE SICK OFF!!!!! fuck the union...they wont
do shit about it so we should.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 04 August 2010

Hey Hates CSX:

I hate to burst your bubble but the vast majority of crossing accidents
are in fact the driver's fault. Not that crews don't
miss stop and flag orders or crossing protection don't fail, they do. 


I'm sorry about the loss of your Father but how do you know exactly
what the circumstances were...you don't, by your own admission you
hadn't been born yet, The fact you posting indicates you mother
wasn't in the car.

Are you talking about incident up around Toledo back in May '01?
Since you have never worked for the RR you have no idea of just how bad
running the crossings gets so you have no knowledge of what the
statistics mean or how to interpret them!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 04 August 2010

crackhead hogger

Let's not over exagerate CSX earnings. No railroad has made record
profits they only beat last years meager profits. CSX is hiring at
various locations across the system. The REDI center is back in
operation. Most if not all the trainees that were let go in 2008 & 2009
have been recalled. This attendance policy is about CSX having power &
control nothing more. The unions are the ones you should be angry with
if they don't take action. The unions should take a stand that PL, DV,
and vacation can't be included as availability days under this policy
because these are days earned under the contract and not random mark
offs. That is the crux of the conflict the rest of it is the same as
the previous attendance policy. The other issue is FMLA which CSX also
included as available days that should be handle by the U.S. Department
of Labor who oversees that corporations don't abuse it. Right now it's
a wait and see situation if the unions will take action.

Name: Hates  CSX
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 03 August 2010

To "Clueless in MO",

How dare you you assume that the majority of accidents are the fault of
the driver.  My biological FATHER was killed while my mother was still
pregnent with me.  Why??  Because the idiots driving the train that
night NEVER gave a warning before the approached the tracks on the
road.  There was NEVER a horn blown, and there was no crossing guard
installed until several years AFTER the fact.  A while back, we even
had a train owned by CSX take off without the driver.  It ran through
at LEAST a dozen counties before they were able to stop it.  So, as far
as I'm concerned, your unexperienced "statistic" is seriously flawed
and inacurate.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 03 August 2010

Dave, SHUT THE FUCK UP. You are obviously a foamer. Better yet, you may
be Pines. Look back if you don't know what I am talking about. Enough
already. The horse is surely dead, so stop beating it. If you know so 
much why in the hell are you stirring up shit on this third rate web
site? Go to the Feds and make your case already. You are just another
fucking internet troll.

Name: Dave
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Posted: 03 August 2010

RE: No name
NAAH I'm not going over the edge, just setting the stage for more
serious posts.  I've coached sports all my life and sometimes you just
have to get people lit up in order for them to get off their butts.

RE: Loyd
I assume you're reffering to people who do stupid things at crossings.
How do you get them to stop?  I doubt you could ever stop all.  We'll
always have stupids among us.
One thing that would take care of at least 80% of the stupids is simply
to tell them the truth about the dangers of crossings. Like I said
earlier, the people rely on big brother government to take care of
them.
Let's say the FRA came forward and explained railroads aren't
following the fail safe principle.  What do you think the normal
motorists actions would be?  Then again this would create an enormous
problem emptying the cities when everyone "Stops, Looks and Listens."
The whole purpose of warning systems operating on the fail safe
principle is so motorist can cross SAFELY without slowing down to look
and listen, having faith in the system. This eleviates traffic jams
during rush hour. Make sense?  If you were on here during the
Henrietta, NY accident, channel 13 explained to the people how unsafe
the crossings were. The people freaked out and started stopping at
every crossing.  Does this answer your question?  The FRA stepped in
and blamed the train crew which eased the peoples doubt in the
crossings not operating on fail safe, which resulted in a young mother
being killed a few weeks later.

Name: Lloyd
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Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years
Posted: 03 August 2010

Dave, what exactly can you do to save stupid people from railroad
crossings?

Name: 
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 03 August 2010

Dave,
You make a lot of good points, but you need to get a grip, your going
over the edege....

Name: Dave
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 03 August 2010

RE: NoMo
You said: As a signalman you obey the law and be unemployeed or not
obey and possibly face Federal Prosecution.

That's the problem.
Signalmen will never be prosecuted.  The FRA is the enforcement agency
which almost never show up to investigate.  They accept the railroads
report of a motorist being the cause 100% of the time.  In order to
prosecute the FRA would have to investigate, find the signalman to be
culpable, find some pure nit-witt prosecutor willing to take the case
on, THEN try to win the case before a Federal Judge who is a "Good Ole
Boy'"  On top of all this, do you honestly think the FRA is going to
prosecute a signalman which would bring out the facts that the FRA has
been covering the fail safe laws for 30 years, allowing the circuits
being used to spread across America?
NOTTA GONNA HAPPEN is it?
You are correct in one sense. A signalman will be fired for giving up
the secrets of crossings and signals. Here again is a problem.  If he
is fired for following Federal Laws and keeping with safe practices,
wouldn't his union back him?
I promise you, every CSX Signalman with a laptop is monitoring what I
have to say, praying I don't mention their name. OOOOH Yes I will!
You can fill out an application at McDonalds from this point on.  HEY!
FRA. You wanted to catch me making a threat on this site? Would you
consider this a threat or, someone trying to stop Terrorist attacks? 
By the way Slack Action, the signalmen, management and the manufacturer
of this circuit ARE the Terrorist!  I'm not worried about some
foreigner trying to use the information to wreck a train or kill an
innocent family, I worry about railroads commiting acts of terror
against our citizens every single day! I'm worried about our
government agencies being so corrupt as to allow this to happen! The
German people didn't know about the death camps of the Nazi Party, the
same as the American people not knowing about the death traps at
crossings.  The Nazi Regime protected the information the same as the
FRA is also protecting the information. Both Germans and Americans put
their faith in a corrupted government and we WILL pay for it.  You want
SCARY?  What is the motive behind the FRA covering up for the railroads
slaughter of innocent Americans? Mike Ward.  May I humbly suggest you
do the Right Thing.

Name: 
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Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 03 August 2010

Safety First, not that way at the Chesapeake Bay Piers,  at this pier,
it is get the job done as fast as you can.  Most of the employees have
fallen victim to the anti-union tactics of this management.  You can
almost guarantee there will be many accidents at this facility, due to
the hurry up behaviors.  The employees here are being treated unfairly
and are being forced to work 16 hours and beyond,  while not only
unsafe but just plain stupid.  Why would any company want there
employees to work over 12 hours on multi-million dollar equiptment?

Name: crackhead hogger
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Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 02 August 2010

I would like to say that if there were ever a time to strike CSX, now is
the time.  I have watched this company walk all over our unions and
brothers since I came here in the late 90's.  I've watched as they
divided and conquered us. I've seen my pay drop, benefits being
reduced, and seniority destroyed by the unions and carrier. Now they
want to make sure that I don't get the chance to do anything other
than work.  Period.


I for one vote STRIKE.  If we don't stand up for ourselves, no one
will. The carrier will continue to do what they want until we walk. We
have to show them what we will and will not take.  I will not take this
and am not gonna quit because they don't like it.  CSX just declared
record profits again.  They can afford to hire people and give us time
off work when we would like it.


-Crackhead Hogger.

Name: NoMo
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 02 August 2010

Hey Dave:

I feel your pain!

So basically if you're a signal maintainer you have two choices...
obey the law and probably be unemployed or do as your told and possibly
face criminal charges.

Talk about your no win scenario!

Name: 
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 02 August 2010

http://www.facebook.com/NewOrleansBarbaraLane#!/video/video.php?v=159216125164&ref=mf

Name: Dave
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 01 August 2010

RE: NoMo

You're right, CSX can't force you to break a law but are you willing
to loose your job over it?  Check around you and see how many higher
paid conductors and engineers hold a college degree.  Hiring sharp
people without a degree insures the railroads of a devoted worker. 
Management options are to perform at all cost or take a lower paying
job that requires no degree.  If you go up against a railroad you will
not only be Black Listed, but Railroaded.  This is to make an example
out of you for others.  Signal Employees are a REAL threat due to their
knowledge of train control and crossings.  Ever see a bunch of
unemployeed signal people?  Signal Employees are well cared for not
because of their E abilities but the really bad stuff they know.  You
thinken what about ole Dave?  Beats me, guess I reached a higher plain
with them, after all, the information I just shared with you IS insider
information.
Now, I said all that to say this. The signal guys have an option.
Refuse to obey CSX rules and the Fed Regs. that results in setting up
the train crews and motorist loosing their jobs and be Black Balled.
And I'm here to tell you if you burn your bridges you'd better have a
lot of faith in GOD to help you through.

Name: NoMo
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 01 August 2010

I'm no lawyer but I thought the most restrictive law applied,
regardless of whose it was. In the case Dave's previous post, the CSX
operating rule must be as or more restrictive than the CFR...any action
that fails to meet the most restrictive criteria is a violation of the
law.

CSX can not force you to break any law!

Name: Dave
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 01 August 2010

RE: RRJ

Sorry I was quoting the Federal Regulations for Crossing Malfunctions,
CSX may be following their own set of rules.
A light out or one gate arm broken constitutes a Partial Activation
Failure require train to pass at restricted speed.

An Activation Failure is just like what was described in a post: The
engineer hits an approach and the system doesn't activate.  Activation
Failure right?  It makes no difference whether he Sneaked up on the
crossing activating the lights,or knew there was no car for ten miles,
it is STILL ILLEGAL to do this.

Does anyone have the transcript of CSX VP Casellini on the Henrietta
accident?  He describes SNEAKING up on the crossing activating the
lights with the island circuit as fail safe.  He couldn't possibly
know this proceedure.  He was told what to say by the CSX Chief
Engineer Signals(I think Mike Choat at the time) and The Director
Signals.  They just didn't realize I knew more than materials HA! They
blamed the train crew for not stopping and flagging when the crew was
given bogus stop and flag status and apparently have been directing
signalmen to shunt the crossings and place a malfunction order because
they can't repair rain water shunting the tracks. What about it
signalman? I know your reading the posts and saying OOOOOO CRAP Daves
telling the train crews how we set them up!!!  If I'm wrong then
post!
Anbody know what happened to these guys on the Henrietta accident?

Name: RRJ
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 01 August 2010

Dave

Under a partial activation failure missing gate lights not working that
is considered an activation failure. Which requires the crew to stop and
flag which has been explained that the conductor will be on the ground
protecting the crossing till the lead locomotive is by it. I have had a
train dispatcher give me the wrong crossing to protect where there is
multiple crossings close together. If a crew has an activation failure
order then notice that they appear to be working properly with traffic
stopped they are still required to go thru the motion of stopping and
flagging. No one can recind an order except the TD that too must be
copied by one of the train crew in duplicate. Years ago if a signal
maintainer was at a crossing he could call us on the radio or use hand
signals that he has activated the crossing and it's protected. The
rules have been changed that is now illegal.

Name: 
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Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 31 July 2010

Looks like Bill Clinton trained CSX on stop and flag.
It all depends on what the meaning of IS is.
I promise I did have sex with that woman.
It all depends on what the meaning of stop and flag is.

Name: Dave
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Posted: 31 July 2010

Thanks for the reply TEE.
As I said, I'll explain the process.

Crossing malfunction has 3 categories.
#1 Partial Activation= One light out or one gate broken.
#2 Activation Failure= Crossing will not activate
#3 False Activation= Crossing activated continuosly.

There is no way for you to sneak up on a crossing at restricted speed
reported as "False Activation".  The warning system would already be
activated, long before you ever hit the approach start.
The crossing you try to sneak up on doesn't detect you on the aproach,
can only indicate an "Activation Failure" requiring a stop and flag.

Here's how Signals set you guys up.
They respond to a crossing Activation Failure and can't find and
repair the problem, which they recognize as rain water causing an
intermitent shunting of the aproach circuit. They understand that when
the tracks dry the Activation Failure will fix itself MAYBE. Signal men
can't stay there waiting for the tracks to dry, so they shunt the
aproach circuit and place a False Activation Order on you.
Under this illegal practice CSX doesn't loose money stopping the train
and flagging the lead thru. If you blow thru the crossing and kill
someone like in the Henrietta accident it is YOU who will take the hit
for failing to stop and flag.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 31 July 2010

Dave,

Stop and flag means stop and flag. Doesn't mean to sneak up into the
island circuit and keep going. Egineer stops, Conductor flags, if not
this is an E - failure.... How much easier does it need to get......

Name: tee
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 31 July 2010

I have never seen or heard of a crew intentionally disregarding a stop
and flag/activation failure. It would be career suicide as this is
probably the most common way I've been efficiency tested. We DO sneak
up on the crossing at restricted speed for a false activation until we
can see that the lights and gates are working and traffic is stopped. 
That said, there is always a possibilty of error on the part of anyone
involved in reporting the failure. Whether it be the person reporting
it initially, the dispatcher, the pscc, or the crew.

Name: Dave
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 31 July 2010

RE: RRJ

Thanks for the info.

Now consider this.
#1 A TD puts out a stop and flag for a reported crossing failure.
#2 A Signalman responds and finds nothing nothing wrong because the
shunt caused by water dissapeared momentarily.
#3 The Signalman Calls the TD and lifts the stop and flag order.
Instead of repairing the problems he reports "Circuits working as
intended".
#4 You come along 1 hour later and the water has shunted the tracks
again and you T-bone a motorist.

You said--Stop and Flag.  Are crewmen actually getting off the train
and flagging the lead engine thru, or activating the lights by shunting
the island circuit? I know this is happening, but need to hear it from
you guys in the field. According to CSX VP Casellini you are told to
SNEAK up on the crossing even with a failure.  You guys report it and
I'll show you how Signals is setting you up.

Name: RRJ
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 31 July 2010

Dave

Activation failures are listed on train orders or given by radio from
the TD which has to be copied by the conductor or engineer in duplicate
(same signature and handwriting on both) which must be saved for 7 days.
The action is stop and flag. The other is False activation which the
train crew must approach crossing to assertian if gates and flashers
are working once it's known they are functioning with traffic stopped
proceed not to exceed 15 mph if not stop and flag.

Name: Dave
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 30 July 2010

RE: NoMo

I agree.  Nothing will change and the killing of inocernt Americans
will continue as long as the FRA let's railroads self investigate.
Most everyone on here understands the fail safe principkle by now. The
FRA is offering big bucks for research on how to reduce crossing
accidents in ten states.  Anyone want to propose having the FRA
actually do their jobs, get off their butts and actually do an
investigation or two.  Heck, I'll even help you behind the scene for
free. Sounds like we've gone Nazi, Commy, Marxis, or soemthing
doesn't it?

Meanwhile, I'm still waiting on some train crew poster to explain what
information is given on an activation failure and what actions the
railroad has you to take. Don't go sticken your head in a hole like
the Signalman.

RE: TEE
There is a very cheap circuit we use to use in the mine industry that
would probably work as a fix to the crossing circuits. I'm not holding
my breath waiting on the FRA to contact me for help. HA!

Name: NoMo
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 30 July 2010

Hey Dave: 

The easiest and quickest way to fix unsafe crossings is for the FRA
enforce the current regs. and that wont happen as long as the carriers
are allowed to self investigate.

Name: Dave
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 30 July 2010

RE: TEE

Still trying to give a good answer to your question "Is there an easy
fix for unsafe crossing circuits?"

A Fail Safe crossing circuit can be made with a car battery and a
relay. A battery and relay were the first circuits used and designed to
be fail safe. Pretty cheap HUH? considering the A/C circuit costs the
taxpayers between $8,000 and $25,000 each.

Name: Dave
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 30 July 2010

RE: NoMo
Why don't railroads just have the Regs changed?

I don't have a clue!  Guess it's easy to get a law on the books, but
very hard to get them off.
I do know that the report used by railroads to send to the FRA for a
crossing accident has a box #18 I think, that you put a code number for
the cause of an accident by the railroad.  The code is on another list
which includes warning time less than 20 seconds, no warning time, loss
of shunt, etc..  The FRA KNOWS that if any of these things happen the
lights must flash continuosly.  So why would the FRA want to know if
the victim had less than 20 seconds warning? If something was wrong the
victim should have had continuos warning.
Maybe someone else has a better answer.
I do know that the "fail safe principle" is the crux of all signal
operations and protection is worthless without it.  Remember the CSX VP
Casellini,(Henrietta, NY accident) claimed fail safe was the back up
provided by the island circuit?  Maybe they're trying to change the
description, don't know.

Name: NoMo
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 30 July 2010

Hey Dave:

If the CFRs requires the system be "Fail Safe" and the carriers
can't or wont comply; why haven't they petitioned the FRA to change
the law?

Apparently it's not the equipment the carriers have problems with,
it's the laws...so why not just change the laws...problem solved;)

Name: Dave
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 29 July 2010

RE: TEE

No they are not compatible with D/C.
No easy fix. The A/C I'm talking about is actually a frequency.  Think
of a local TV station transmitting a frequency through the air to your
antenna.  Remember the problems with everything from a grounded antenna
wire to an old car with a bad spark plug interferring with the signal? 
Railroads are transmitting on rail #1 to a crossing approach start or,
beginning of a signal block, then recieving the signal back on rail #2.
 Instead of using coax cable like on an antenna the rails are bare and
subseptable to all kinds of problems.  Signal personel fight with these
things constently. The shunt or interference causing the problem
dissapears by the time a signalman gets there. They are not allowed to
leave without repairing the problem or taking the signal out of
service.  The way CSX Signalmen get around this is to report "Tests
performed system working as intended." This report goes to the FRA who
ignores the false report. Signalmen go home and pray this thing don't
fail again and kill somebody.
Sorry, this is hard to explain in simple terms.
The problem with fixing this A/C circuit comes from the FRA allowing it
to exist and be used all across America. If this is made public it would
make Water Gate seem like a walk in the park. Without the public being
made aware of the problem and forcing Congress to act, there is no way
of providing an incentive for railroads to make needed changes. It's
less expensive to blame motorist and train crews. Remember US Secretary
of Transportation Mineta and US DOT Inspector General Meade?  They
didn't just resign under George Bush, they were forced out because of
their involvement in trying to hold railroads accountable.  Scarry
isn't it?
Thanks for the question.

Name: NoMo
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 29 July 2010

Hey Dave:

Don't worry about it, "War and Peace" was a long answer. The
important thing to know is "Junk in...Junk out"

Life might get interesting for the "Crews or Crew" when PTC is
implemented...in the meantime, innocent people will die until the
carnage picks up when PTC is implemented, then it'll get ugly.

High speed rail along established freight lines will be the new killing
fields...the difference being it wont be 10,000 miles away.
Death will come to every one's neighborhood!

Name: Dave
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 29 July 2010

RE: NoMo
NOOO you're not off topic.  All signal aspects MUST operate on the
fail safe principle.
Ever heard of "Junk in Junk out?"  PTC (Which I'm not that familiar
with) will run off  information provided by track conditions. If the
Electro Code system receives an interferring signal from lightening or
water showing up as a train/shunt this information will be sent to PTC.
 I'm looking at a CSX print out that is riddled with error messages
received by Electro Code on track conditions.  
Are the Federales throwing good money after bad?
Of course they are but railroads are experimenting with the circuits
under live conditions, the train crews being the live part.
SM1 posted that CSX is just now using a crossing circuit that will send
a message to dispatch when a false shunting occurs.  Meanwhile these
circuits have been installed for 30 years recognizing all the while it
is not fail safe. RIGHT?
Mike Witherspoon (CSX Division Signal Engineer) stated under oath that
he and others had tried for years to get a Loss Of Shunt circuit
(LOS)for the crossing Island Circuits and have recently began
installing them on new crossing installations.  In other words trains
sitting on a crossing keeping the lights activated looses shunt on the
tracks and the lights go off.  A motorist comes along (at night)
doesn't see the lights and can't see the black train car and gets
decapitated.  I worked with USDOT on this which resulted in railroads
adding reflector tape to the sides of cars for those parked on
unprotected crossings. Not much HOORAH but at least some progress was
made to save lives. The Federales have paid for this A/C crossing
circuit for 30 years also.
Good question. Sorry about the long post I'm trying to get it shorter.

Name: NoMo
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 29 July 2010

Hey Dave:

A little off topic but how does this tie into PTC...A/C circuits, D/C
circuits, RFs. I'm sure CSX wants one supply and since A/C is it,
wont the same problems that exist today with crossing and signals
failures exist with PTC?

Isn't CSX and the Federales throwing good money after bad money?

Name: Tee
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 29 July 2010

Dave: So the fail safe DC circuit is not compatible with the current
signal systems. Is there one that is? How should the problem be fixed
in your opinion?

Name: Dave
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 29 July 2010

RE: TEE

Yes there is a circuit that follows the fail safe principle.  It was
used for decades called a D/C circuit which doesn't detect rain, snow,
ice, etc. as a train AND if it can't detect the next train due to a
problem it WILL fail to ist's safest position by flashing the lights
continuosly warning motorist.
Why did railroads switch to an A/C circuit?
Harmon Industry came up with a circuit (Electro Code) to control the
signals that runs trains. The A/C signal allowed railroads to send this
signal on the tracks eleminating the need for pole line.  Unfortunately,
the Electro Code can't work on the same track as a D/C crossing
circuit. The crossing circuits had to be changed out one by one paid
for with Federal Funds.

Name: RRJ
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 29 July 2010

Dave

One of the biggest set ups at a crossing was the first car to run
around the gates the second car thinking they could do the same. Monkey
see monkey do principle. Rain does have an impact on the signals there
were several locations that would repeatedly go out drop right in front
of a train. You would think after being reported to the TD multiple
times CSX would do something about the problem. CSX first response
it's the train crews fault. Years ago dispatchers knew thay had a
train lined up they would give permission to proceed. Today it's 45
minutes to an hour wait so they can check the computer. Train crews are
held captive hoping the computer doesn't screw up. I've been in
situations where I had 3 road crossings blocked till we were cleared to
proceed. One big pain in the arse was getting called out and MOW had a
707 for 15 miles with orders to stop and flag 4 crossings. One always
had to keep in the back of their mind I hope they reactivated them
before the time limit was up if not I hope the TD caught it. That has
happened to me only thing one could do was try and stop the train lay
on the horn and pray.

Name: KYLE
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Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 28 July 2010

To all when i wrote about amtrack & the 300 ft rule with the car almsot
getting whacked i was only 18yrs old at the time and had only 2 months
on the rr in fact it was only my 2nd road job when that occured, So yes
you can say young & dumb if you like but i sure did learn after that to
read that BOR as many times as i could even reading it at home many
times,Guess it just took that 1 incendent to wake my ass up as at the
time i did not know about the 300 ft rule but i sure know it now, Bur i
also fell now thinking about it that the hogger who was a old head
should have known it but he was sleeping at the time waiting for our
taxie and it just all happened so dam fast and now i know thats how
things do happen on the rr in like a split second a life can be lost or
a major derailment that could occur with you or i being helpless, yea
the old standby even though its a old rule,, take the safest course and
never assume anything on the rr as someone else said you learn something
new on the rr every day and that is the god truth.

Name: Tee
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 28 July 2010

Dave: I understand that these circuits are not "fail-safe" and can be
shunted by rain, snow, etc. Is there a circuit that IS fail-safe
available?  What is the solution? Slower speeds? Gates that do NOT lift
up once the train has stopped? Or is the only solution removing all the
crossings? What do the railroads need to do to remedy the situation?

Name: Dave
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 28 July 2010

RE: RRJ and other poster

I hear you and trust me, I have heard the same horror stories. I went
for years getting really ticked every time I heard a news story about a
family getting wiped out by a train.  My thought pattern was pretty
simple. SURELY anyone can see something as large as a train and if
these people would simply stop look and listen they wouldn't be dead.
I was so hardened in my beliefs that CSX ask me to be an OLI
Spokesperson.  Even though I had spent time designing these circuits I
missed the concept of shunting the approach causing the lights to go
off. I was later propmoted to Programs Engineer which involved
purchasing these control circuits. The CSX Signal Supervisors started
hounding me to stop having the circuits installed.  Nothing I could do
about it so I stuck my head in tne sand for several years even when I
understood we were setting people up to be killed.  When CSX Auditing
VP ask for me to help in understanding a fraud process our deparment
was using and participate an internal audit, it all became
overwhelming. 
A little back ground there to say "Yes I understand."
Here's the question I'm stuck with.  Even though there are those who
run crossings, is it justifiable to set others up and kill them?
I'm trying to slowly lead this A/C control circuit failure into Train
Control signal failures.  They both have to follow the fail-safe
principle, but don't, therefore they are being used illegally.
Be patient with me as I try to bring all this together.  In the
meantime, check with a dispatcher and see how hard it is to line
signals.  This is due to the circuits seeing rain water as a train
being parked on the block.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 28 July 2010

QUIT THATS WHAT I DID ALONG WITH MANY OTHERS HORRABLE OUTFIT TO WORK FOR
OVER WORKED INPORPERLY TRAINED AND NO MATTER WHAT ITS YOUR FAUGHT AND
THE PAY WASNT EVEN THAT GOOD FOR ALL THE RIFF RAF U DEALT WITH

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 July 2010

Dave

I have to go with what I had witnessed over the years on the railroad.
Just about every trip I had close calls at crossings. Worst times early
mornings between 5am-8am then afternoons 4pm-6pm people going and coming
from work. The weekend bar closing times at 2am were just as bad. Years
ago ya'll talked about the sight triangle well it would seem to me if
I can't see you and you can't see me and the gates & lights are
functioning it's not a good time for someone to go around the gates or
cross a track without stopping-looking-listening. People are inpatient
it's part of society everyone is in a hurry to go nowhere. When do
they become responsible for their actions? CSX or any railroads
claiming their system is fail safe is a crock. I do believe
malfunctions occur and there have been accidents attributed to it. Over
the long haul majority are due to automobile driver negligence. You
might say I'm preaching the Operation Lifesaver mantra but it works if
people would abide by it.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 27 July 2010

I would say in my 30 years working the road, there is hardly a day goes
by that a vehicle hasn't tried to beat the train by going around the
gates or even slow down and look before crossing the tracks. I can see
the Crossing lights/gates are working properly. 
  In my opinion, it puts a lot of added stress on the train crews when
people do this. I have to cringe when I see a family in a minivan with
kids, be so reckless, they don't even think of their kids fate if a
train would hit them. Some people simply do not want to stop and wait
for the train to pass. I can't tell you how many times I was within
inches of hitting vehicles that disregarded properly functioning
crossing lights and gates at railroad crossings, just to beat the
train.

Name: Dave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 27 July 2010

RE: RRJ

Tell me the last post wasn't yours.
What this RRJ posted is the railroads, Operation Life Saver and FRA's
mantra in propaganda to conceal the rtuth about crossing accidents.
It is a good post to open discussion about how 99% of crossing
accidents are atributed to the driver.
Either way I'll discuss it.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 27 July 2010

That's because 99% of the time it's the automobiles fault on getting
hit. People like to beat trains. As for the crossing protection with
anything there will be a percentage of malfunctions nothing is
completely fail safe. It isn't uncommon for train crews to get orders
to stop and flag a crossing. Every person whose had a loved one die in
train-auto collision doesn't want to except the fact their loved one
would do such a foolish thing as run the gates ignore the lights or
didn't do the smart thing stop-look-listen at rail crossings. It's a
tragidy for the train crews also. We have to live with witnessing
situations that are avoidable.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 27 July 2010

Kyle

I want to thank you for your honesty and willingness to post matters on
rail safety, your desire to ask questions on how to be safer.  Unlike
most posters [I believe] on this site they want to talk about
everything but safety.  They're not telling their horror stories or
ask questions to learn, seems they just want to swear and tell rail
stories in order to puff themselves up.

In reading these posts it is apparent the signal people are hiding
things from the train crews, the rail roads are hiding things from the
people and the FRA is just plain hiding.  Why?  What's the motive on
this thing?  Who's benefitting from covering up trains smashing us and
having no one stand accountable?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 27 July 2010

CSC Chesepeake Pier poster
 
Sorry to hear about CSX treating it's American workers the same as the
Asian workers.  You're looking for help from CSX, Unions, or possibly
the Government.  Looking in the wrong places.  CSX is a part of Global
Capitalism in which the ones who can supply a product the cheapest gets
the orders. Unfortunately, American workers can't compete with poor
working conditions, child and slave labor.  The conditions at
Chesepeake Pier are much better than the conditions in Asia.  The
products being loaded are destined to Asia where Iron Ore will be
turned into toasters.  If CSX improves the safety conditions at
Chesepeake that would cost money. CSX then would have to charge more
for the transportation to Asia.  This would result in the toaster
costing more when it comes back to the US.  Heaven forbid it may result
in some American Company being able to produce the toaster cheaper than
the 8 year old Chinese kid.
Start your efforts by Googling CSX Ports Asia.
In order for Global Capitalism to work Asian and American workers must
have the same working conditions or the American Worker is eleminated.

Name: RRJ
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Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 27 July 2010

If you knew Amtrak was coming down #4 main why didn't you stop the car
from crossing the tracks? It doesn't matter wether you were on the hog
or not it's a matter of doing the right thing. To just let that car
cross without a warning was negligent on your part most private
crossings do not require a train to apply the 20 second rule. I know I
would of stopped the car. You had to know Amtrak was coming you should
of heard it on your radio unless you both were sleeping. I hope you
learned from this mistake. Unbelievable what goes on today.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 26 July 2010

Kyle I worked conductors job for 40 years in my entire career I never
stoped a train right at a crossing unless I was on that crossing to
proteck the public from getting hurt if you knew you were on the law
you should have been at least 300 feet from that crossing. In my
opinion you and your crew would have been guilty of murder.sounds to me
that you and your crew was too lazy to walk 300 feet. If you cut a
crossing and leave cars then it should also be at least 300 ft it by
some chance it is closer or you see a crossin that is cut too close
then notify the dispatcher who in turn should have every train that
goes by to  flag that crossing. If you went on law you should have back
up or cut your engines off and left 300 feet on each side.too many lazy
employees working with the r.r. today less walking by stoping right at
the crossing do better next time let this teach you .I worked a long
time and never got through learning something new almost everyday.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 26 July 2010

KYLE, I think if something would have happened at that crossing, you and
the crew would have been in deep doo-doo.  You did get lucky, nothing
happened.

Name: NoMo
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Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 26 July 2010

On the piers at Curtis Bay...that might fall into OSHA jurisdiction. It
wouldn't hurt to call and make an anonymous complaint.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 26 July 2010

CSX HAS A COAL, IRON ORE,AND ROAD SALT OPERATION AT IT'S CHESAPEAKE
PIERS FACILITY IN CURTIS BAY MARYLAND. THEY LOAD AND UNLOAD SHIPS AND
BARGES. THE PLACE IS A VIRTUAL VIDEO CAMERA SURVIELLENCE HELL FOR
EMPLOYEES. THERE ARE CAMERAS IN THE LUNCH ROOM AND THE SMALL ROOM WHERE
TWO REFRIGERATORS AND THREE MICROWAVE OVENS ARE LOCATED. YOU ARE
REQUIRED TO WORK EVERY WEEKEND AND HOLIDAY AT STRAIGHT TIME, IF YOU ARE
UNFORTUNATE ENOUGH TO BE ON SECOND OR THIRD SHIFT. ONE MUST WORK 40
HOURS BEFORE ANY OVERTIME IS PAID. EMPLOYEES ARE REQUIRED TO USE A HAND
SCANNER TO CLOCK IN AND OUT, BUT NOT ALL EMPLOYEES. MAINTENANCE OF WAY
DOESN'T HAVE TO USE THE SCANNER. EVERYTHING IS COVERED WITH 100 YEAR
OLD DIRT, EIGHT INCHES DEEP. IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE A UNION SHOP, BUT THE
SEVERAL UNIONS THAT SUPPOSEDLY REPRESENT CSX EMPLOYEES THERE ARE
PRACTICALLY NON-EXISTANT. MANAGEMENT CAN FORCE YOU TO WORK A DOUBLE
SHIFT AT ANY TIME. IF YOU HAVE ANY DISTANCE TO DRIVE TO GET HOME, AND
BY THE TIME YOU TAKE A SHOWER, YOU MIGHT GET 4 HOURS SLEEP. UNSAFE AND
VERY DANGEROUS TO HAVE EMPLOYEES OPERATE RAIL CAR DUMPERS,LOAD SHIPS
AND BARGES WITH ONLY 4 HOURS SLEEP. RESPONDING TO EQUIPMENT BREAKDOWNS
WITHOUT ADEQUATE REST IS A RECIPE FOR DISASTER. SOME EQUIPMENT AND
MACHINERY OPERATE AT 4,160 VOLTS. THERE ARE TWO CLAM BUCKET PIER CRANES
THAT WERE BUILT IN 1951. THEY ARE USED TO UNLOAD IRON ORE AND SALT.
THESE CRANES ARE LITERALLY FALLING APART.RIVETS ARE RUSTED TO THE POINT
WHERE THEY BARELY HOLD THE IRON SUPERSTRUCTURE TOGETHER. THE OPERATOR
SEATS ARE NOT ATTACHED TO THE FLOOR OF THE CONTROL CAB. THESE CRANES
ARE AS TALL AS A 10 STORY BUILDING. MANY OF THE STEPS  USED TO TRAVERSE
SAID CRANES ARE IN VERY POOR CONDITION AND RUSTED THROUGH. THE PROPERTY
IS OVERRUN WITH NON-UNION OUTSIDE CONTRACTORS, WHO EMPLOY ILLEGAL
ALIENS. NO ENGLISH SPOKEN HERE. THE PLACE LOOKS LIKE A THIRD WORLD
COUNTRY. WE ALL KNOW THAT THESE UNFORTUNATE SOULS ARE PAID SLAVE LABOR
WAGES. THAT'S JUST THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG. CSX SUX !!!!!!!!!!!

Name: Dave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 26 July 2010

RE: Kyle

No the public is unaware of the 300 ft rule or the 20 second rule on
active crossings.  Normally people expect railroads to take all safety
precaution to protect them and pay the FRA salaries to make sure the
railroads follow all fed regs.

Yes you would have been at fault for the accident but since you work
for the railroad they are also responsible for your actions.
Not to worry tho.  The FRA allows the railroad to self investigate and
the local police are clueless, so by the time an attorney is retained
there is no record of you not following the 300 foot rule.
That is unless you volunteer the information to the FRA which would
take no action.

Sounds like a real accident I worked on at a Chicago Boat Club only
this one a guy was killed.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 26 July 2010

Hey Kyle:

The average person doesn't need to know about the rule...but the crew
does. 

Yes you are very lucky and so was the driver and their family.

Name: KYLE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 26 July 2010

I often wonder about flag & protect, Is this only for public grade
crossings with automatic protection? A few years ago we were stopped at
a private road crossing in a 4 main track area, The crossing led to a
private boat club, We also were outlawed at the time, Well anyway this
car comes across the tracks in front of us while we were stopped on
track #3 probably thinking all was clear but our train blocked the view
of track # 4 and as soon as that car cleared the crossing wam here comes
amtrack doing 60!!! Amtrack missed that car by about 1 frickin inch, The
driver was so shook up that he stayed stopped in a state of shock for at
least 20 min, If he had got hit him and his car would have been sent to
the pearly gates no doubt about that, Also that crossing only had x
bucks, Now if it would have happened does anyone know who would have
been taken to court?

I personaly don,t think it would have been our fault as we were not
givin any order to flag & protect but we were in violation of the 300
ft rule as we were stopped right at the crossing and that did limit the
view of track #4 to almost no view at all, Should i consider our crew
lucky that day cuz after it happened it got me thinking big time & i
still think about it, I don,t think the avearge person knows anything
about the 300 ft rule but i am sure some attorneys know all about
it??????

Name: Dave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 25 July 2010

RE: Web Master and Slack Action.

Melting snow and ice at Winton Rd. caused by salt increased the
conductivity between the rails resulting in a shunt.  The lights would
start flashing and continue for a long period. CSX Signalmen would
respond but were unable to find the shunt caused by water.  They are
required by the regs. to find and repair the problem, flag the crossing
or, stop and flag.  Didn't do that did they?  CSX Signalmen strike
one.
Later, the approach circuits started shunting due to the snow (which is
also a conductor)instead of keeping the lights on, the circuit would see
the shunt as a stopped train and turn the lights off. Then it happens
again and again.  Slack this is what I mean by turning the lights on
and off.  CSX Signalmen responded and again it was IMPOSSIBLE to find
where the shunting was occuring since the shunt this time wasn't a
wire but snow covering 2,000 ft of track. Again the Signalmen were
required by the FRA to find and repair the problem, flag, or stop and
flag.  The Signalmen instead placed a wire shunt (probably inside the
bungalow) which the circuit saw as a train stopped on the approach,
keeping the lights from going on and off. With this jumper in place the
circuit can no longer detect the train that killed this couple.  CSX
(according to CSX VP Caselleni)is having a stop and flag order given
but, expect the engineer to activate the lights by shunting the island
circuit 50 feet from the crossing calling this proceedure fail safe. 
This is completely illegal.  CSX Management then is responsible for
killing these two people. CSX Management used this circuit which is not
fail safe and is strictly prohibitted by the regs. Again the
responsibillities fall to management. 
The train crew, instead of stopping, getting off the train and flagging
the crossing blew through the crossing.  The train crew is responsible
for killing this couple.  Slack this is why I've ask you to describe
how your given a stop and flag order and your response at the crossing.

The FRA knows these circuits are not fail safe and are getting people
killed, and are instead covering up for the railroads. The FRA are an
accomplice in killing this couple.
Slack you ask how the electrical circuits were deactivated?  By a piece
of wire shunting the tracks.  Don't have to worry about terrorist my
friend look out for the signalmen who know they are setting up the
train crews and motorist.
Slack you ask why this shunting contiued for a week?  CSX Management is
setting the signalmen up. Vicious circle isn't it?  The signalmen
can't find the shunt being caused by snow, they can't make a repair
so they shunt out the track circuits and place a stop and flag on the
train crew.  The only way the shunt problem could be resolved was to
wait one week for the snow to melt and pray someone don't get killed
in the process.  And the train crews think they have problems trying to
follow the rules.
I appologize for the long post.

Name: Dave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 25 July 2010

OK. Salty answered the question. Water or rain will shunt out an
approach circuit which will cause the ligghts to come on and then go
off thinking a train has stopped on the approach.

RE: Web Master
It was everyones fault that you mentioned and especially the FRA.
This started off with CSX blaiming the driver but OH NO! Witnesses said
the gates came down behind the driver so CSX blaimed the state for
salting the crossing.
More later:

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 25 July 2010

A derailment due to a by-passed coupler and a signal maintainer just
don't belong in the same sentence...I've see hundreds of
derailments;
probably caused some. The only derailments I've seen due to by-passed
couplers were in switching operations in a yard. I've never seen a
protected x-ing or signal on the lead!

Name: Salty Balls 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 25 July 2010

An  AC track circuit can have problems in rain.. Usually not just the
water though that causes the problem it is usually the combo of grease.
fertilizers, salt, etc. If the maintainer keeps good watch on the
crossings though he will know how much current he needs to keep the
circuit up. And yep maybe eventually the x-ing will have to be taken
out of service and hopefully everyone follows the rules and stop and
flag etc.. 

BTW this is Signalman 1. I have one last thing to say here. You are
making points about accidents. You blame the company. Maybe we should
all step back and think about something here. All of the tragic
occurances are from laborers. The problem here is you are making your
own people look bad. You keep talking about union men and women
breaking rules and causing accidents. If these accusations keep
pointing this way then the railroads are going to end up canning all
union and go over to contractors like they have started to do out west.
Maybe we should all look at how we do our jobs before we blame the other
departments. BTW I had to work another derailment due to By-passed
couple because noone paid attention to what they were doing...

Name: Dave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 25 July 2010

Good question Webmaster.

The signalman addmitted to crossings not being fail safe. I was trying
to lead him on to the next step in that you can shunt a crossing with a
piece of wire causing a false activation, but these shunts are also
caused by simple rain water which gives an A/C path from one rail to
another.  Now we've got some real trouble because the shunt can't be
found and are intermittent.  
SM1 and, or SM2 will you verify this before I answer the questions
please?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 25 July 2010

Webmaster,

It's all a matter of public record, I believe. Crossing not working
properly was blamed on salt being used in winter time.... Crossing had
a stop and flag on it. So who's fault was it that this elderly couple
died. Csx, Crew, Signal maintainer or all...

Name: Dave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 25 July 2010

RE: NoMo

NOOOOO! Post on my man.
This is everybodies fight to expose the railroads and a corrupted
government.  Ask questions like Slack Action and I'll do my best to
answer honestly and from actual experience.  It's not just about
railroads.
As we go along here I'll show everyone how they can play a part and
not simply depend on what Dave say's.

The link you posted?
Mary Peters was over the FHWA and apparently paid a part in shutting
down and investigation into CSX fraud, crossing safety and an FRA not
doing it's job.  She DID know about this investigation that resulted
in a conformation of John Snow to US Secretary of Treasury who was
under this investigation.  How else does one get elevated from the FHWA
to one of the presidents cabinet positions?

Slack thanks for the post. I'll answer your questions later as they do
apply directly to the subject of railroad signalmen setting train crews
and motorist up to kill or, be killed.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 24 July 2010

Hey Dave:

Hope I'm not speaking out of turn by posting this link but perhaps
it my explain the discussion to those uninitiated.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php/index.php?fa=PAGE.printable&pageId=37963

Name: slack action
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 24 July 2010

RE Dave:

This is a news clip from the crossing accident in Henrietta.

        On Feb. 3, 2004, a train-car collision killed a Henrietta
couple. The safety gates didn’t lower as the train approached; the
couple drove across the Winton Road tracks near Brighton-Henrietta
Townline Road, and were struck. An FRA investigation revealed that the
Winton Road crossing gate was on an electrical circuit that had been
intentionally deactivated by CSX a week before the accident. The
investigation also found that the CSX crew involved in the crash.      
                     
  
I have some questions.

1. What do you mean by the crossing going off and on?  Are you talking
about the gates going up and down?  

2.  What does it mean by the electrical circuit had been deactivated? 
Does this mean the gates were jumped up by way of a shunt.  And if so,
why was it like that for over a week?   

Tragic as it was, it does seem like the crew was set up.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 24 July 2010

Dave,

You need to get your facts straight.I was in Roch. Ny when this
happened. The crew blew through the crossing saying they thought is was
farther down the road. they missed a stop and flag. Crews fault..... End
of story.....

Webmaster comment: Funny... You were in Roch NY when that happened, but you're posting from an address near Pahokee FL. If you're retired, why not post your real name? Why not tell us what you were doing in NY?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 24 July 2010

Hey Dave:

We've been around this sight for a long time and it's amazing that
whenever a serious discussion occurs about any safety issues, these
guys come out of the woodwork. Over the last 5 or 6 years we've had
this very same discussion at least 3 maybe 4 times and it's the same
tactic.

Their first tact is to try to discredit the lead posters. In this guys
case he started his first post on 7/4 with "this has got to be a
joke.. A big group of conductors and engineers that have nothing better
to do then cry". No contract employee, regardless of craft, would
criticise such a large number from another craft. It was obvious from
the beginning he was a plant and based on his attack on T&E he's CSX
manager.

Their response speaks to just how sensitive CSX and perhaps the FRA
is in regard to this issue...this sensitivity is a result of their
culpability!

Name: Dave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 24 July 2010

RE: WTF 

Talk Signals not crap so I can verify you.

You made one signal statement so I'll adress it.
You said: "We don't all shunt a crossing and go home."
No you don't but some of you do!  An example is when you guys killed
an elderly couple in NY. REMEMBER?  The crossing kept going off and on
(Wasn't fail safe was it?) So what did CSX Signal guys do?  Shunted
out the crossing and placed a Stop and Flag Order which some one should
be in prison over right now.
A CSX VP stated on a news program that this crossing WAS Fail safe
because the train would activate the crossing with the Island Circuit. 
Heck the VP should be in prison too, everyone involved in killing these
people broke "criminal" Federal Laws.
You do HOWEVER, leave a crossing that has been reported as failed
because of rain shunting the crossing. Leaving it for one of these
posters to hit an unsuspecting motorist.
Now, talk signals not crap. No one is interested in my being a nut
case.

Name: Dave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 24 July 2010

RE: NoMo
HA! NAAAW I'm not biting!  Remember I mentioned the FRA deposing me?
They took my posts and tried to discredit me. They can't confront me
on issues so they try to discredit me. Didn't work. Think about it!
Why would the FRA want to bring a trouble making idiot to Washington? 
Why would the USDOT Inspector General and the US Department of Justice
be willing to have me lead in a Federal Investigation that resulted in
CSX admitting to fraud againt the people and paying back 5.9 million.
My share for being a Bounty Hunter was 1.18 million not a bad job as he
calls a ^(()^%$# job.  HA! It always make me laugh when these people
claim that my motives are to cause trouble, make money off poor ole
railroads.  DAAAH!  They stole millions and we nailed em. I didn't act
alone but WITH the Federal Government.
I wrote this for newcomers to this site.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 24 July 2010

This is going to get good...my money is on Nelson!

Name: WTF  Dave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 1-10 years
Posted: 24 July 2010

Hey SM2, why would you say that you do not test for rules annually. You
must take operating rules in the summer and safety rules in the winter
or vise versa..... along with envirnmental, broken rail, security.... I
think you mis read the question about are you required to test each
year. 

Dave... Looks like I hit a bone with the comment about you being no
better then the big bosses. You really are I have been baiting you this
whole time to expose who you really are to everyone on here. You have a
short fuse and a bad attitued where everyone will be wrong. Guess what,
we dont all just shunt a crossing and go home sorry buddy. I know that
might be what you did.. Oh wait you never maintained you sat in the Ivy
tower thinking you were on to something. Maybe you should focus next on
the Alien coverup in Roswell New Mexico... oh and Bill Sherer or
however it spilled yep heard of him.. Oh and BTW I mentioned your name
to some people at work they all said you are crazy and started trouble
from the get go... Nice attitude you have though hope one day you
realize you might be wrong and that is why you have a shit job. Oh and
you are not on a no fly list. Those are public documents that anyone
can google and your name does not come up. Sorry Davey you are a big
nobody and you will die a big no body. Good luck in your next scandal
you piece of shit.

Name: binheer2long
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 23 July 2010

Loudly blasts the speaker, but the video is dark. 

Again, I ask, why does there not appear any pictures in the photo
section to prove your claims?? There are no restrictions prohibiting
the possesion of digital cameras while on duty.

A picture is worth ten men's jobs in an investigation. Words were my
bond, but my presence in your midst is your charge to defend. 

Are your posters for real or is this just a stoner retreat??

Are your union rep's no longer subject to the same standards you
are??

I have been accused of being a Brit, can you defend your being
complient??  Test me!!

Name: SM2
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 10-20 years
Posted: 23 July 2010

NoMo

The FRA supplies us with a form to check off.  We are never furnished
with the regs and an explanation, or testing us.
All I can say is that according to the regs I just read any time the
approach circuit can not detect a train the lights must flash forever
to warn motorist. If there's a broke wire preventing the train from
detection the lights will flash until the wire is repaired.  The same
condition should apply to a shunt being placed down. The lights should
flash forever to protect motorist but they don't.  This is what Kyle
posted he saw.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 23 July 2010

Hey SM2:

It's interesting the FRA requires you to perform mechanical tests
on the signals and crossing without requiring you to know why you're
performing the tests. It's hard to know what constitutes a pass or
fail without knowing all the information!

I would agree that the FRA is fully aware of the situation; which is
why the FRA allows the carriers to self investigate the failures.

I guess PTC and High Speed Rail will be problematic as well under the
current bent of the FRA.

Name: SM2
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 10-20 years
Posted: 23 July 2010

RE: NoMo

No we're not required to test each year. We do monthly, quarterly and
yearly tests on signal and crossing circuits that's required by the
FRA.  I've been going through these regs and found even more problems.
 The tests require us to shunt an approach to make sure the circuits
work properly.  If you undertstand that the circuit should keep the
lights on as long as the shunts connected to be fail safe then none of
my crossing circuits comply with the regs.
I agree with not contacting the FRA.  The way I see it they have to
know already.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 23 July 2010

Hey SM2:

You will be held accountable...after at least 10 years I would've
thought you would have seen it by now. The carriers want plausible
deniability which they can't have if they teach you the rules.

Which leads my to ask, are the signal maintainers required to pass
an annual rules test like the T&E personnel are?

I would hope you would talk to the FRA...peoples lives hang in the
balance. However, be forewarned that if you do and CSX finds out who
you are, you will end up like Dave!

Name: Signal Man 2
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 10-20 years
Posted: 23 July 2010

Dave

I done a web search on the regs you been talking about.
You are right.  I've never been shown these regs I've only been
taught by word of mouth.  Should I report this to the FRA?

Name: KYLE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 22 July 2010

I just wish some of you signal men would admitt that signals can fail,
IE false clear as i did see it happen in the past several times and yet
you guys & the BOR men say thats impossible to happen & highway crossing
too as i seen that first hand a few years ago as we were comming down
the line at 50mph at 3 am that morn and the crossing lights did not
actavate untill we got on the island circut thank god no one was trying
to cross the tracks at that time as we would have nailed them big time,
So don,t tell me its a 100% fail safe system cuz its NOT, Get it in
your heads that anything man made can fail, Its murphys law so don,t
try & pander that fail safe thing off on me, Not saying it happens all
the time but it only takes 1 time for a disaster to occur.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 22 July 2010

Based on several comments made over the last few weeks it appears there
is an impostor amongst us...reminds me of Frank Abagnale, Jr!

Dave...my condolences on the loss of your brother.

Name: Dave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 22 July 2010

RE: No Name

The Signal Man said he would invite anyone to follow him around he does
everything by the rules.

Sorry that's a lie!
When he gets a call for an activation failure he's required to find
and correct the problem.  Instead he goes to the crossing and performs
shunting tests and when it works he releases the crossing to normal
speed.  And Signal Man you say you don't set these guys up? You don't
fix the (^&%^&$^$# problem and cause the next train to crash into a
propane truck, or school bus loaded with kids.
What's the proper name for a person who would do such a thing?

When he gets a call on a signal failure (caused by lightening or rain)
he goes out and does the shunt test and finds the signals work he
returns the signal to normal operation instead of finding the problem
and making a repair.  This trouble may repeat for months until someone
gets by a signal or meets another train that's not suppose to be
there.

Name: Mohmad Ben Laden
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 22 July 2010

Need help

We put leetle peeze a wire on tracks and light came on den weent off.
Car come an train come lights no come on an BOOOOM.

We send note to news paper an claim responsable.  Da say no dee car be
driven in front of train.  How wee get paper to print truth

How I get my 72 virgins dees way

Ali Bak Tar

Name: Dave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 22 July 2010

RE: Signal Man
Remember Bill Scheerer?  I was his baby in Jax..  Enough said.


You DID contradict yourself on fail safe!!!!!!
You said on a DC crossing circuit that had the approach shunted the
lights would flash FOREVER. (This is correct)
Then you said that on a frequency operated approach circuit that is
shunted the lights will flash then go off.  (This is illegal and NOT
fail safe). 
Fail safe means the lights go to it's most restrictive position and
remains there until the problem is repaired.  It sure as %&^($%$#
don't mean that a train reducing it's speed is fail safe !!!!!  
GEEEEESH!  Who in the &^(%&$$# hired you as a signal man????

I can't really use you.  You don't know signals.
Next time you kill some mother and her kids because an approach was
shunted with rain you'll think this over.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 22 July 2010

To Signalman,
  You stated in an earlier post, "Sure the trainmaster may sit
in the woods and spy on you, but if he is watching you do all the
right
things and not break the rules then you have nothing to worry about. I
always invite anybody to come watch me work, because I know I am doing
what is right and if not I want to know about it."
  I happen to had a Conductor tell me the exact same thing you did. If
your not breaking the rules, you have nothing to worry about. He found
out he was wrong. He got written up for some trivial violation.
   Trust me, if they want to get you on a rules violation, they can do
it. There are so many nit pick rules in that book. There are some of
the road foreman's/trainmasters, all they do is study that rules book.
They couldn't do your job or any one else's for that matter, worth a
shit.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years
Posted: 22 July 2010

SORT OF OFF TOPIC
I AM A LONG TERM CSX EMPLOYEE AND KNOW THE DRAWBACKS AND ADVANTAGES OF
THIS WORK. A LONG TIME FRIENDS (FORMER RR EMPLOYEE) WELL EDUCATED SON
JUST MOVED TO FULTON, MO. TO TEACH SCHOOL. HIS BROTHER, EQUALLY SMART
BUT NO EDUCATION (BOTH EARLY 30'S)WANTS TO JOIN HIM THERE BUT SEEMS TO
FOCUS ON BURGER KING AND QUICKY MART. PROBABLY SAME HASSLE @ HALF THE
PAY. SURELY THERE IS A RR JOB WITHIN DRIVING RANGE THAT IS BETTER THAN
THAT! PERHAPS CNIC? ANY THOUGHTS OR SUGGESTIONS? THANKS! DIRECT E-MAIL
TO dieselshop3 at y a h o o dot com (misspelled so the web spiders
don't harvest).

Name: signal man 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 1-10 years
Posted: 22 July 2010

YES you are 100%right about how the crosings work. Train will go thru a
crossing and activate it. Dave, I never contradicted myself, I told you
lights would stop flashing with a predector and would not with a style C
circuit. So back to the main thing... Niles was an idiot that is what I
have stated before. Yes the company hires and promotes the wrong guys
just like any business....We have a lot of the. I will stop posting
this site because you are not even carrying on dialogue that has
reason. You have picked thru certain topics and dwell on them. You have
either been a fuck up employee and got caught doing something wrong or
you are a trouble starter. Every Department has idiots. I was working
two derailments caused by train crews not paying attention. The first
was a crew backed over a derail with both workers in the lead enigne.
And the second was one of your guys pulled out on to the main without
position and tried coming back through one of our switches. So we can
go all day talking shit about someone's dept. Dave dark territory runs
at a lot slower speed so they are pretty much restricted that gives
people more time to get out of the way. There are always things that
can go wrong, just part of it. I dont buy into alot of your hype though
because you are an ex employee and you are not getting any support from
the FRA on your ideaology. If you are right than good job, I hope that
you really are looking out for people's safety and not just a big
payout, cause ya know that would make you no different as a big boss..
Signal man 2 really you know you have a great job and if you do all
your test to the best of your ability, you are fine. You have probably
got hit on a GPS violation or from the sounds of you have pissed hot
before. For real though you dont need to be writin things on here that
could cause a dangerous situation to our country. think about it. Good
Bye alll

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 22 July 2010

I'm glad to be retired. I no longer have to worry if an opposing train
went by a stop signal or anything else that might of jeaprodised our
safety. One case in point a few years ago a crew got by a stop signal
claims they missed the warning of the approach signal stating they
weren't sleeping. The stop signal they ran thru is on an ascending
grade that once the stop signal was seen just by throttling down to
idle the grade would of stopped it short of the signal if the dynamics
had been used they would of had to drag it up to the signal. Yeah
right, they weren't sleeping plus it was daylight. Before I left this
was becoming common. Only conclusion poor training plus some people
should have never been promoted. The UTU agreed to this made it worse
by allowing CSX to fire someone that didn't get promoted to engineer.
That's a tough one especially after a person worked another craft for
up to 3+ years. CSX being lax on qualifying shows they just want bodies
on trains.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 22 July 2010

It requires around 8,000 hours (about 3.8 years) in the field and 700
hours (about 4.5 months) of classroom study to become a journeyman
(licensed) electrician.

Yet you can become a licensed engineer (journeyman) and run 20,000 ton
trains after only 4.5 months (about 700 hours) of field work and 6
weeks (about 240 hours) of class work.

I must be missing something!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 21 July 2010

CSX wants one signal system for the entire railroad. Changes have been
going on for the last 5 years. CSX will use goverment money if any to
put in Positive Train Control seeing their being forced into it under
the FRA Safety Act. Do we need PTC? I don't think it's necessary. We
need better and longer training periods for prospective engineers. I
read where a passenger line trains their engineers for one year. On CSX
it's six months that's 6 weeks classroom training at the REDI then 4
1/2 months of OJT. Within that time frame they're sent on all
subdivisions within their seniority zone plus yards. CSX always picked
the easiest SD (70 miles) for the qualifying run at least in my area.
Those engineer trainee progress reports were a waste of time to fill
out. Some people should never had been promoted. The UTU crew consist
screwed up by forcing people to engine service. The former BLE screwed
up by not objecting. I thought it's suppose to be about safety not
conveyor belt training.

Name: Dave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 21 July 2010

Slack Action or any other for that matter:

Please post what information is provided to you on a crossing
malfunction and what your response is to the crossing approach.
The railroads and FRA are screwing you guys over. Post and I'll show
you how.

Signal Man:
I'm still waiting on your response.

Name: Dave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 21 July 2010

RE: JT Brown

You wanted to know why railroads are changing out the old CPL signal
heads to a target?

The FRA is using the "Incentive Package" intended to bail America out
and create jobs to upgrade signals.  The question seems small, but the
answer is mind boggling.  If this area interests you I suggest you
start tracking the FRA, High Speed Rail and Warren Buffets "Super
Corridor" /BNSF Railroad. Good luck.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 20 July 2010

Hey Con 1-10:

See for yourself.

                  http://www.fra.dot.gov/pages/49.shtml

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 20 July 2010

Can anyone tell me if the FRA is banning one man remote crews? like the
ones in Avon?

Name: Signal Man 2
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 10-20 years
Posted: 20 July 2010

Signal Man 1

I noticed you answered the question about shunting a crossing but you
changed the event by using a crossing in signal territory. The question
was for dark territory.
With a crossing in signaled area the shunt would dissable the crossing
and warn the next train to travel at restricted speed.
The question being in dark territory with the crossing dissabled  the
next train is going to blaze through the crossing at normal speed and
hit a vehicle.
You said we don't set the train crews up. Oh yes we do.  We all do and
you know it.  Personally I'm tired of running trains into cars and
trying to come up with excuses for not doing something about it.
If this stuff comes out in the news and my kids ask me did I do whats
right or did I cover it all up I'm going to have an answer.

Name: Caboose
E-mail: suthrnrazd@msn.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 20 July 2010

Looking for work I came across this site. Thought it couldn't hurt to
see the good and the bad of working the railroad. been reading for
about a month.just observing.

Name: JT BROWN
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 19 July 2010

I do have a question for any signal maintainer who can answer the
question-----? Why is the rr in such a frenzy to get rid of the old
standard postion light signals and replace them with the all color
target type, Personaly i think the color postion light signals were the
best of both worlds, Or could it be they are doing this for the future
when we have only 1 standard class 1 road in the usa? Personaly you can
shove those new target type were the sun don,t shine!

Name: Dave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 July 2010

RE: Signal Man

You posted signal men never set up train crews?
Better talk to CSX Signal Supervisor Niles Blaize and his maintainers. 
They set an engineer for Herzog up, blaiming him for a signal over run
that nearly took out an FEC train.
Might want to talk to the Dispatch Center who has Diamonds go hay wire
every time it rains. 
Every time you get a call for a false activation at a crossing you set
these guys up!
There is a posted news article where a MOW crew jumpered the tracks and
set an Amtrak train crew up killing a person.  Care to answer?

Name: Dave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 July 2010

RE:  Signal Man 2 I guess it is.
Welcome to the discussion on signal failures and poor signal safety.
It really doesn't matter who I am or what I may claim to know about
signals.  If you can prove me wrong in my allegation GREAT! If you
can't then everyone on here will understand our nations rail system is
at risk for a terrorist attack not including the systematic day to day
slaughter of innocent Americans.

Now, so far signalman 1 claims fail safe is when the circuits can't
detect the next train then the crossing will flash the lights forever.
Then he contradicts himself by giving an example of shunting the
approach circuit and the lights go off until the train passes the
shunt.  Sorry Signal Man 1 this doesn't pass the fail safe test. Care
to try again?

Name: Signal Man 2
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 10-20 years
Posted: 19 July 2010

Sorry signal man I didn't know you had to say you were a different
signal man.  You post signal man 1 and I'll use signal man 2 OK? 
Anyway i think we owe it to the MOW and train guys to let them know
management is screwing us over to.  You know as well as me that we do
things that aren't right and against the regs.  This guy Dave seems
like he knows what he's talking about.  Either we can defend ourselves
or learn something from him.  One thing for sure if we tuck tail and run
it seems like we're hiding things.
Dave who are you and what makes you think your so up on signals?

Name: Dave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 July 2010

RE: Signal Man

You may want to stick around this site to try to try and defend
yourself and the signal department.
For instance you state "my crossings are under the fail safe
principle."
Either you don't understand the fail safe principle, like the rest of
signals you are are lying to protect your job, lying to yourself in
order to justify killing innocent Americans. Then again it might be you
just don't understand.  In this case, stick around and debate me.

You state "Yes you might shorten an approach however that approach
will then activate as soon as it see's movement."  Your own statement
admitts your crossings don't meet the failsafe principle.
Any time an approach is shunted the lights MUST flash continuosly the
same as a RED Track Signal.  Either TCS or crossing signals MUST fail
to the most restictive position.
As you posted: YOUR crossing signals don't fail to the safest position
when shunting occurs, but simply go dark telling drivers it is safe to
cross until a train crosses the shunt.
The only LEGAL way to take a crossing out of service is to provide flag
protection, or stop and flag. This is a Federal Regulation that you and
other rail employees are breaking that carries civil and criminal
penalties.  The purpose of the fail safe is to protect the train crews
and public.  To ignore the principle means you are endangering the
train crews.  Now, if you have a come back, or explaination please post
it.

Name: kyle
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 19 July 2010

This is about TRAINMASTERS as we had one on our sub-division who was a
real true blue PRICK, This guy would always get so pissed off at crews
for outlawing and it was not our fault as we were not the ones who put
over half of the div at a posted 10mph, He also directed the cab
drivers not to stop anywere for the crew to eat after they outlawed as
he said we are only doing that to make more OT,,,I later found out
about that TM as when he hired on as a fireman-hostler he would refuse
to hostle engines when it was rainning, hence he got named WETBACK &
the asshole never got promoted to the right side as he took the TM job
to avoid that, So i know he must have sucked a lot of offical ass to
pull that off, These are the type of TM,S that should never have been
hired on any RR and man this dude thought he was a GOD when he got that
TM position and let you know it too, One arrogant cocky S.O.B. The type
that needs to be coupled up, I can write more about that PRICK but it
would be a big book.

Name: signal man 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 1-10 years
Posted: 18 July 2010

GUYS AND GIRLS,  I was the one orignally writing the q and a to you guys
but somone else is using my call sign. I will just stop posting on here
since that someone else may be writing stuff just to make signals look
worse. 

Earlier I stated that CSX as a whole is a good company. This is true no
matter what anyone says. Now there are bad officers in place with CSX
just like any other company. There are officers that look for any
reason to write a guy up or put him on the street. Now that being said
I will ask a question. Has anyone ever been written up and actually
fired for something that they did not do. Sure the trainamster may sit
in the woods and spy on you, but if he is watching you do all the right
things and not break the rules then you have nothing to worry about. I
always invite anybody to come watch me work, because I know I am doing
what is right and if not I want to know about it. 

For the one's that think signalman are in cahoots with setting you
guys up you are way wrong. 

Dispatcher, you are ridicoulous, really you dont want to put out stop
and flags for crossing protection. You need to know that signals only
put out the jumpers and it is usually for mOW forces. And I always pull
my jumpers, they are all numbered and go into a safe box and the end of
the day.

For disabling x-ings. MOW..... LEGALLY ...can not disable a x-ing
inside a bugnalow period. 

I know there have been deaths and wrecks at crossings, but these are
from people breaking the rules.....

And my crossings are under a fail safe pricinple. Times have changed
and equipment is newer and better. Yes you might shorten an approach
however that approach will then activate as soon as it sees movement
and a track light will be present on the rail so a train will be
running at restricted...

Good luck with your work guys,,, My first post was "if its so bad than
why dont you just quit???""" I know why you need money duh so I
challenge you go ahead and quit and see what the job market looks like


Good LUck

Name: Dave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 18 July 2010

RE: Slack Thanks for the condolences. He's in a better place.

RE: No name, maybe a disptcher:
You ask about foreman being present and you can't get the signals to
align.
If they are working on track near a crossing the crossing keeps
activating stopping traffic.  Shunting the track makes the cricuit
think a train has stopped on the approach and stops the lights.  You
can't align the signals due to the shunt which this circuit also
assumes is a train occupying the block.  You most likely turn the
movement over to the train crew and foreman.  Works for the train crew
and dispatch but, the traffic is endangered (by the lights being off)
without a stop and flag order.  This is why signalmen are the only ones
alowed to shunt the tracks. There's just to many things that can go
wrong for just anyone to perform this function.

Name: slack action
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 18 July 2010

RE Dave:

I am sorry Dave, I am not qualified to answer that question.  Maybe
signal man can helps us on that one.

Name: Dave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 18 July 2010

RE:Slack Action 
You metioned calls coming in from the public of a crossing malfuntion
that is a bogus call in. The signal maintainer goes to the crossing to
find it working as intended. I'm not disputing the bogus calls happen.
 What I am disputing is that when a train crew reports a crossing
didn't activate for his train and the signalman arrives and finds the
crossing working as intended, calling dispatch back and giving you guys
the go-a-head for normal traffic.
Signalmen are required to identify the problem and make a repair before
EVER releasing the stop and flag. Dispatcher, is this cenario
happening?
This leads me to a question for you. You say a stop and flag has not
been issued for 15 years.  Tell me the process currently used when a
crossing is reported as malfunctioning?

Name: slack action
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 18 July 2010

RE Dave:

Sorry to hear about your brother passing away, my heart felt
condolences.

Name: Dave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 18 July 2010

RE:Signal Man
Sorry I haven't gotten back with you, my brother passed.

I know you don't want to answer my questions since they can only lead
to people understanding signal personel are responsible for getting
people killed and your actions are protected by the railroads and FRA.
I'll ask you this simple question: Are crossing warning systems
operating on the fail-safe principle and in accordance with the Code of
Federal Regulations or not?

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 18 July 2010

Everything has to be taken in to consideration. Power, tonnage, grades
ect...best rule keep it bunched tight or steached tight especially
while using dynamics lower the notch more chance of getting that
knuckle or drawhead. The key is knowing the territory if there is a
slow order one should be calculating 7 miles in advance on how they'll
handle the train. Having good power isn't the problem it's knowing
what to do with it. It beats the days when we had 4-5 old 4 axle GE's
or EMD's on a train hoping at least two of them stayed running. It was
a pain in the arse to work on a locomotive while still running the
objective was getting the train over the road by any means. Of course
one can't do that anymore to work on an engine today one must be
stopped. CSX treats knuckles like a sin with the engineer having to
fill out a separation report sometimes it's a case of "schidt
happens". A few years ago CSX was building bigger trains instead of
150 loaded coal hoppers they were running up to 180 cars. It was
amusing trains were getting knuckles, drawheads, a few even derailed
all because of excessive tonnage and length. It didn't last but a few
months.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 17 July 2010

I've had nasty tonnage trains and smaller trains. There is always a
possibility of getting a knuckle or draw head at slower speeds. IE,
banner testing.  I don't care how good you think you are running that
train. It's better now than the old days yes, you have more power now
to yank them apart. 
     Whoever tells me it's easy running these tonnage trains, right.
I've seen the best Engineers get knuckles and draw heads on all kind
of trains. Don't get cocky with any of these trains. They will fool
you, when you think your so good at handling trains, the trains will
come back and bite you in the @ss.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 17 July 2010

One thing I can tell you. When the dispatcher is calling the signal
maintainers or track foremans that are working around that area and
asking what they are doing, the signals are dropping, that scares me. 
  It's like they aren't all on the same page.

Name: signal man
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years
Posted: 16 July 2010

Dave I know where your headed with these questions but there's nothing
we can do about it and you know that.  Letting these clowns have
information about signals will only cause trouble for us all.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 16 July 2010

Dave,
Is at the end of his rope, kinda like the Engineer running lite.
Oh well surely someone can help. Wonder what the No Fly list has to do
with RR signals?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 16 July 2010

Good Engineer can run lite engines, the same as they run coal or
freight.

I saw one quit after 160 miles running lite. Scared to death, no
brakes.
Dispatcher on his ass, slow is not the word for it. He had never done
it before, was not trained for it, and was not capable of handling the
situation. He is now a retired Banker.
He was simply a fireman with no training, promoted with no training,
and thrown to the situation. Just the way it was.

Name: Dave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 July 2010

RE: Slack Action

Sorry man, I'm going to spill my guts on this site.
Remember?  I'm the Dave Nelson listed on the NO FLY LIST as a
potential threat to National Transportation Security.
I have no options but to take these guys on in order to get off the
list.
If I have limited Signal Knowledge as you claim, then there is nothing
I can say that is of value, so don't worry about it.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 July 2010

Hey RRJ:

The ones I didn't care for were the short heavy ones. More axles means
more brakes...the more the merrier!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 14 July 2010

Why is it more dangerous to stop & start a tonnage train? The brake
systems used today are sufficient to apply and release to get the train
speed under control. Rule is keep the train bunched or streached tight.
Compared to 20-30 years ago when it was mostly AB & ABD brake systems
on a tonnage train applying the brakes meant one thing stopping because
the brake release was gradual instead of similtanious. Today you can do
bunch braking which is legal under the rules compared to streach
braking which is not. E-testing depends on location in my area the RFE
didn't discriminate he didn't care wether it was AMTRAK ect...A train
is a train tonnage has nothing to do with it. In my opinion tonnage
trains were easier to run then smaller trains everything from curves,
grades ect...could be used to an engineers advantage. Shorter trains
can get out of control easier it's a lot more work involved. Starting
stopping is one thing a good engineer is consistent on keeping it under
control. Planning 5 miles in advance is the key to good railroading.
Unexpected occurances are always a possibility.

Name: MIKE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 14 July 2010

What i know about the e tests is when they do it they always pick on the
tonnage trains,, Not on the high speed van trains or amtrack and these
are the type of trains that can stop & start sort of quick with out
that much delay, If you want my personal opinion its more dangerous to
stop & start tonnage trains under any condition, Thats asking for
trouble to happen, I always did think that e-tests were a sort of
stupid thing but as we all know we do have a lot of stupid officals.

Name: slack aciton
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 13 July 2010

RE Dave:
Dave, I know your extensive explaination of how to shunt a track are
with good intentions but just about anybody who works for the railroad
understand how it works ( in theory) ... I know that your field
experiece is very limited and do not see the things I see on a daily
basis on the railroad, but PLEASE think before you post things that
vandals and terrorist can use..You cannot even imagine the things
people try to do to derail trains. I would never think about posting
something with the knowledge I know ( which is not much)  that might
put safety in jeopardy, just for that reason..   I know with the
internet people can find things to do, but LET'S NOT  make it easy for
them and give them any ideas.  I understand where you are coming from
and what you are trying to accomplish, but let's think about the
safety of our Nation, passenger service, and the employees of the all
the railroads in our country before we post ANYTHING that might be
damaging...

WE all have to be vigilant everyday to help protect our country, and
this is one that is a no brainer!!!!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 13 July 2010

rad

You can't blame a signal maintainer for doing their job if instructed
to assist someone in e-testing. I can't say any intermidiate signals
were ever shunted while I ran a train but I treated every one as if it
could have been. The RFE doesn't have to put the stick man out he
could monitor train speed. Running restricted speed for miles has to be
one of the most boring jobs worse than sitting in a siding. One must
assume when hitting the approach that it could be anything train ahead,
broke rail, improperly lined switch ect...quite a few times it was
derails left off by someone who did a pick up/set off at a spur. Most
times you'll sit still they get a signal maintainer out to find the
problem.

Name: Dave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 12 July 2010

I'll continue to answer a few signal posts until the Signalman gets
back on.

RE: Slack Action
There is a reason for my asking the signalman questions in a specific
order, starting with the D/C crossing circuit.  From here I can explain
the other signal failures and the FRA ignoring the problem. 
On a D/C crossing circuit ANYTHING that prevents the circuit from 
detecting the next train will cause the warning system to activate and
stay activated FOREVER (according to the signal man.  This is what's
called the "Fail-Safe Pronciple."  There is only one way around this
which means gaining access to the signal bungalow.  This is why we have
Federally registered keys.  The CFRS STRICTLY PROHIBIT the use of ANY
circuit that doesn't operate on the Fail-Safe.

The easiest way to explain the failures is in non-signal territory and
a D/C circuit.  
A wire is used to shunt the tracks and as long as the wire remains
there the warning system will stay activated.  
With the A/C or frequency operated detectors it is designed to stop the
crossing warning device when a train is stopped on the approach.  You
see this all the time right?
What happens when this same wire is placed on the tracks and left
there?  The system will activate thinking it's a train and then
deactivate thinking the train/wire is a train stopped on the aproach
and turn the warning system off, telling drivers it is safe to cross.
When the real train comes the system WILL NOT activate until the train
passes the wire placed on the track.  Meanwhile drivers don't so much
as look for a train since the gates and lights are telling them (By
Federal Law) it is safe to cross.  When they have passed the signals
the train hits the Island Circuit and activates the signals and gates. 
Too late for the driver isn't it?  This is how you get a T-Bone. 
Drivers are trusting the warning device, the FRA and railroads.  
The train crew just killed or injured a mother and her family and
blamed the driver because the warning system had to have been working
because it's FAIL-SAFE.
I'll get on with this D/C circuit on crossings being changed to A/C
and the same effect on Train Traffic Control Signals if I can keep the
signalman on line with us.

Name: rad
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for N/A
Posted: 12 July 2010

I for 1 do not trust signal maintainers as these are the same peeps who
go out with the officals to conduct the signal tests at 3 am as they
are the ones who put the shunt lines on and trip the relays for the rr
officials and i have found out over the years that signal peo-le are a
sort of cocky bunch as they do not like T&E personal, they are indeed
suck asses to rr officals, be warned about these peeps.

Name: slact action
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 11 July 2010

RE Dave:

Shunting the track in TC territory will always cause red signal either
at an absolute or an intermediate signal... It will not in ABS, DTC OR
D 251.  So you are partly correct on that one.

Name: goofy
E-mail: CSX Sucks
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 11 July 2010

What is a spiked switch? What does this do to a spur line off the main
line? When the spur line has not been used in 29 years and ties are
rotted out and rails are bent, can this be considered an abandoned
spur?

Name: slack action
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 10 July 2010

RE Dave:
Dave, the main reason the signal mtr cannot find anything wrong with
the crossing protection is because any Tom, Dick or Harry can call into
the dispatching office ( the old OP center) and say that there is
something wrong with the crossing gate, when in fact they are woking
just fine...but have to be treated like they are malfuctioning.  In
fact only the FRA, police, railroad employee are the only qualified
poeple that can report a crossing malfuction, not the public, but that
rule has been thrown out the window. 

And Dave your are partly right on a stop and flag ( which has not been
put out in about 15 years) it is now either a false activation or
activation failure.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 10 July 2010

You call the dispatcher, they say, operate as per rule.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 10-20 years
Posted: 10 July 2010

By the way, I have NEVER had a maintainer out with a TM/RFE to do
E-Testing or to shunt the tracks in front of trains.

This just might be on our Div.

...and we do, the (train dispatchers) can tell the tm/rfe I'm not
stopping this train (along with a reason why).

I do at least

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 10-20 years
Posted: 10 July 2010

To my knowledge, no one can shunt without the dispatcher knowing. Maybe
couple exceptions

They would be knocking down signals if we were lined up.

Now, in DTC/TWC/IndustTrk may be a different story.

If a xing is called in on DTC, they maintainers may be able to go out
and shunt the track to see if the gates are working properly without
the dispatcher knowing. also without knocking down signals. (but that I
am unsure of)

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 10-20 years
Posted: 10 July 2010

When doing E-Testing, The trainmaster calls in..

TM "What do you have around?"
D "Ummm Qxxx-xx" , Qxxx-xx
TM "Who's the crews on the train" (sometimes they ask some don't)
D "Mr. xxxxxx & Ms xxxxxx"
TM "Can you hold CP XX" I want to banner em"
D "Well I guess, they will be down there in 30 min"
TM "Great, Which track will they be on? and can I go ahead and set
up?"
D "Yes, go ahead. They will be East on No.1"

30 min later

D Qxxx-xx, Over
C "This is Qxxx-xx"
D "Yeah, When you get down to CP xx, I'm going to have to talk you
by.
C "That a roger dispatcher"

A good dispatcher will say, there is a circuit down, trap didn't
release, broken bar or something.

Then, if you happen to get lucky.  A Maintainer will get on the radio
and say "Dispatcher, Whats wrong with CP XX?  
-"Ohhh, nothing is wrong with the Interlocking, Someone just need to
see a train through.

Name: Dave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 July 2010

Federal Railroad Administration

You deposed me to Washington Sept. 2009 on a Signal overrun case.
I was shown several post made on this site to verify I made the posts.
They dated back to 2005, therefore I can only assume you monitor this
site.  This being the case, the news article posted pertaining to an
Amtrak killing one person in Illinoise was found to have been the
result of a MOW crew disabling the circuits.  Normally this accident
would have been blaimed on the driver, even though there were witnesses
stating the signals failed. BUT, there was a video this time that can't
be covered up.  So you bring in the NTSB on a higher profile case.  I
ask that you have David Rayburn (Agent In Charge NTSB) contact me to
assist in this investigation.
At the very least, a jumper was used to shunt/short the approach
circuit which IN NO WAY CAN HAPPEN on the Fail-Safe Principle.  This
can only mean that the control circuit used to detect the train and
provide 20 seconds warning is STRICTLY PROHIBITED by the Code Of
Federal Regulation that you are responsible to enforce.
To save you some time the CFR's are Title 49 234.225 and 234.203. 
There are also civil and criminal penalties involved and as I showed
you the Congressional Report from DOT Inspector General Meade you may
want to enforce these penalties or you force me to re-visit the
Congressional Transportation Committee and New York Times on this
subject. TRY ME!
And YES I will verify that I am the writer of this post.

Name: Dave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 July 2010

While I'm waiting on the Signalman to answer my last post I'll try to
answer some other posts made.

RE: NoMo
You're concerned about our discussion of shunting tracks and causing
an accident may fall to terrorist.  It's the railroads and FRA that
you should worry about.  These dangerous shunting conditions happen
constantly with the knowledge of both railroads and FRA.  As I proceed
with explainations you will understand it's not terrorists you have to
wory about.

RE: Slack Action
You said MOW don't shunt the tracks because it's against Federal
Laws.  You're partly right.  It's IS against Federal Laws, but as you
can see in the post by Signalman and the news article posted MOW is
definately shunting the tracks in front of an oncoming train.  I
personally don't care how much on site training for shunting a track
they are NOT capable of understanding the effects and it's a crime,
the same as any other individual. The shunting of the track doesn't
always produce a red signal.  I'll explain this later.

RE: Signalman
You say MOW doesn't have a lock (I think you mean a key) to the
bungalow. Each key is purchased under a serial number and assigned to
an individual, the registered with the FRA.  I have found these keys in
rumage sales and was revently shown one by a non-railroader.
You alos mentioned searching for a report in which the MOW shunted a
track out and killed someone.  Hopefully the post of a death in
Illinoise will help you.

RE: Signalman
No I'm not working at Lowes. As you indicated to the guys on here in
your first post, if you don't like your jobs their option is to work
at McDonalds. Lowes was a price I've had to pay for trying to help the
CSX Signal Department and "Do What's Right".

RE: No name
Posted an article on FRA offering a grant to study post crossing
accident reasearch.  As I've mentioned before, these are damages that
fall under a FELA claim.  You first have to show the railroad was at
fault for causing the accident.  I can help but only if a FELA attorney
asks.

RE: Informed
As I progrtess into Signal Failures I'll show you exactly how a signal
drops in an engineers face, not by a wire shunt but, water lightening
and electrical interference.  I'll also explain the event recorder and
how the information is falsified.  Read the posted article where the
railroad was fined millions for falsifying evidence.

RE; SLACK action
Signal Supsension.
When you report a crossing signal failed to activate the Dispatch will
record the event, contact a Signalman and place a stop and flag order.
The signalman (By law) can't release the crossing back to service
without locating and repairing the problem.  What's happening is: The
signalman gets there and the problem dissapears.  He perform his test
and reports back to dispatch releasing the crossing.  He didn't find
or repair the problem but simply leaves the crossing to fail again
causing you guys to run someone over.  Signalman, can you disprove
this?

RE: NoMo
You assume there is a paper trail on downed signals.  Yes there is. At
CSX is is called a TCIS Report that contains false information that a
signal has been checked and found to be "Functioning as Intended"
when in FACT the problem that caused the signal failure was NEVER found
and repaired.  I'll get into details on this later.

Sorry for the long post and I'm not going to proof read it spell check
guy.

Name: Nomo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 July 2010

Hey Informed and Slack:

Now we're beginning to cook with gas.

Points one, two, Three, four and five would fall under the normal
course of business and the Dispatcher would be aware of and have
oversight while the signals are down. I would assume there would also
be a paper trail.

Point three however requires that E-testing be done with a maintainer
present. Does the Dispatcher have final say?

Now my question is when there is E-testing where the RFE or TM is
shunting the signals is there always a maintainer present and does the
Dispatcher always know? How about the paperwork? If the conditions
aren't met then the RFE or TM is in direct violation of Federal law
and CSX operating rules. I just wonder if all the conditions are met
all the time!

As far as vandals are concerned, I agree...besides I don't think most
are sophisticated enough to shunt the signals.

Name: Dave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 July 2010

Everyone
Lots of good posts about crossing safety.  I'll lead into signal
failures and crossing failures in signal areas as we progress with the
Signalman.  To keep focussed I'll stay on task and answer other
comments later.  Meanwhile read the post someone made of a crossing
accident in Illinoise to help follow my posts.

Signalman
Let me paraphrase or some up what you've stated thus far.
Subject: Crossing failures in non-signal territory.

An older D/C circuit detects a train giving a minimum of 20 seconds
warning.
If for any reason the approach is shunted the lights and gates will
activate and remain activated (warning drivers) until the problem is
repaired.  This fulfills the Fail-Safe requirements.
Railroads changed to D/C detector circuit to an A/C or frequency
operated circuit.
A piece of wire shunting the track will result in the crossing
activation but, will stop the lights and lift the gates telling a
driver it is safe to cross, when in fact a 79 mph Amtrak is 2 seconds
away.You also stated the new A/C detectors will call Jacksonville if a
short approach is detected.  What's the railroads doing to protect
train crews and the public using the older A/C detectors?  Why hasn't
the FRA warned the public and train crews of this short warning time?

Is the A/C circuit then Fail-safe??
Does the A/C circuit endanger train crews and public?
Thanks Signalman
Dave

Name: Informed
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 July 2010

NoMo, to answer that question is simple- Nobody can interfere with the
railroad signal system! Unless the below is followed:

1. The work is scheduled ahead of time so trains can be diverted to
other routes around the work area.

2. An Emergency has been declared.

3. T&E Compliance Test that is done by a RFE with the assistance of a
Maintainer.

4. A Failure to operate an CP or Interlocking by a Dispatcher leaving
the Maintainer to take local control BUT under the direction of the
Train Dispatcher.

5. An ACT of GOD. That can interfere with the power by water, power
loss or a simple tree taking down the feed lines.

Then of course there is the Vandalism that dosen't count!

Name: slack action
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 09 July 2010

NOMO: The train dispr has the authority to grant permission to a signal
mtr to conduct his testing. This is so he can protect the effective
area.. They will do this after a signal suspension, report of
improperly displayed signals, cutting in a new signal system etc:....
but the signal man can give us the real scoop.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 09 July 2010

http://kansascity.injuryboard.com/mass-transit-accidents/update-cn-railroad-officials-admit-warning-lights-gate-not-working-in-deadly-chicago-train-crash.aspx?googleid=280486

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 July 2010

If no one would interfere without permission...then who has the
authority to grant permission to interfere with the signal system?

Since CFR cover the system, wouldn't the FRA have to approve any
interference with the exception of maintenance and emergency repairs?

The question concerned Transmasters and RFE shunting for the purpose of
E-testing...I find it hard to believe the FRA would agree to it. The
practice of deniability by the CSX upper management would lead me to
think the TMs and RFEs are encouraged to do "whatever is necessary"
to accomplish the task but are on their own when it comes to
consequences!

Name: Informed
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 20-30 years
Posted: 08 July 2010

What is all this arguing about? I'm a maintainer and we do interfere
with the signal systems when MW is working on a track! It is all
included with RWP ( Roadway Worker Protection) example if the workers
are removing rail for replacement we will jumper it or remove the fuse
for strict pannel block occupancy, but to drops signal on a train-
Never! On compliance tests we work with Transportation in a hut to
verify the track is shunted. I don't know what Dave is talking about
but some on track equipment do shunt the rails. If a signal dropped in
the Engineers face then that tells me it can be a bad track wire, bond,
 or insulated joint etc.

I agree with maintainer on this that no person would shunt the track
without permission.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 08 July 2010

FRA seeks researcher for train crew trauma study, orders 10 states to
develop crossing safety plans 
(The following appeared on the Progressive Railroading website on July
6, 2010.)

Last week, the Federal Railroad Administration (FRA) issued an
invitation to qualified researchers to apply for $50,000 in grant
funding to initiate a study of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD)
and Acute Distress Disorder (ASD) on train crews.

Crew members sometimes suffer from the disorders and psychological
trauma after being involved in grade crossing collisions or trespassing
fatalities, according to the FRA.

The selected researcher will be required to develop a baseline
intervention plan for reducing the effects of PTSD and ASD on train
crew members, as well as create one or more programs that can be
implemented by railroads in partnership with labor unions and other
parties. Additional funding might be available in future years to
expand the project, according to the FRA.

Meanwhile, the FRA also announced it will require 10 states with the
most crossing collisions to develop action plans to reduce accidents.
The agency issued a final rule mandating that Alabama, California,
Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Louisiana, Ohio and Texas
identify specific solutions for improving crossing safety — including
crossing closures or grade separations — especially at crossings that
have experienced multiple accidents or are at high risk for collisions.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 10-20 years
Posted: 08 July 2010

Ohhh, I love how you guys Jump 8 crossings in town on single track
within a 707....

My ass has to put out 8 Activation Failures for a train to pass.


Then when you finish,  did you get em all?

Name: Dave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 July 2010

I'll get back to answer all the questions and thoughts a bit later.
Beans, Black Berries and Rasberries are in.
Some VERY GOOD participation.  Don't run off signalman.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 08 July 2010

Goob

The only thing I would have in common with a signal maintainer is how
to use the signals they provide properly. Nothing more nothing less.
They only problem was he should refrain comments to his occupational
field and we'll stay in ours. So, in that regards you are correct he
is the expert in that field. As for train crews running by stop signals
that is happening more often than it use to lack of proper training is
the culprit. To many times CSX sends people to engineer training then
as soon as it's completed their cut back to trainmen at times for
years before being marked up. Bad management is responsible. It's like
giving a kid a BB gun then thinking they can handle a semi-auto AK47
without additional training.

Name: signal man 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 1-10 years
Posted: 07 July 2010

Just wondering Dave....are yo still working at Lowes hardware
store.....???? and is this still your contact info David Nelson's
contact information: Phone (904) 619-5405, nelson284@juno.com . I see
that you are on a never ending run against CSX for sometype of personal
issue.

Name: signal man 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 1-10 years
Posted: 07 July 2010

Dave, I have searched and searched and found no evidence to what you
have claimed about a MOW crew being at fault for a death at a crossing.
There are no lawsuits filed and no tickets for CSX about that. You have
been misinformed about some things... As slack action has stated MOW
cannot shunt a rail without proper authorization. In no way do they
have access to the bungalows which would allow them to disable a
crossing system. If someone is doing this than they need to be
reported. It sounds like alot of what you are stating is hear-say and
not the most up to date facts. I am more than willing to discuss how
safe our signal system is and how I care about every employees life out
here. However I cannot be part of a conversation that holds no water.
Unless you are a very skilled signalman you will not know how to
"rig" a system. This is a guarantee I promise you....

Name: slack action
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 07 July 2010

Dave I do not know where you got you info about MOW shunting the
track... It is a FRA violation.  but just about any work you do on a
track will cause a track light... That is why we get a 704 or 707 AND
yes we know how to derail a train... Can't believe you said that.

Name: slack action
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 07 July 2010

Let us all remember what we post on here.  You never know who might be
wanting information on selected topics.  Our safety to our trains and
its crews are very important.   

Remember it was not long ago that a terroist just wanted to know how to
turn a plane and did not give a crap about landing and taking off.  And
the instructor told him.... HINT: 9/11  

We may all disagree on here from time to time, and that is okay. Let us
learn from our mistakes in the past.  Our trains in this country have
not been targeted YET!!!! Let us not give these SOB'S any ideas...

Just some food for thought....

Name: signal man 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 1-10 years
Posted: 07 July 2010

and NO the MOW forces will not and have not been issued signal locks. It
that has happned it is illegal....they only jumper the track with long
jumpers and thats it....



My whole point of any of my comments are you cannot be charged with
anything unless you violate that policy. I have never been charged and
we have GPS in our trucks, and the cell phones they give us. They watch
our every move but if you do your job right and do what the rules say
you dont get fired plain and simple.

Name: signal man 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 07 July 2010

I can only agree that you would have that kind of failure if you were in
dark territory. If you are on signaled track than there would show a
track light and someone would be dispatched. Also whn shortening the
approach you have very limited options. for instance I had no crossings
i and I had a lot where I maintained that would act like you said. The
crossings dont take 30seconds to activate that is only prescribed
warning time of a full approach. The components read 1-100 and as the
number decreases so does the warning time. Now with the newest detetors
they automatically report back to JAX that the approach has been
tampered with.


With the case of MOW. They are allowed to apply jumpers however they
can only by the rule apply a opposite rail jumper if they open a
ticket.They also have to go through training from a signal manager
before being allowed to do this.

Name: TANK
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 07 July 2010

Hey Signalman,  I think you still need to be in our shoes and i
guarantee you will retract your comments

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 07 July 2010

OK Wake up SignalMan is talking, and answering all of the questions.
Ask em now, he has already dismissed several several folks, and is
doing a nice job with the self appointed expert Dave.

From what I see signalman is the expert.
Sure is not Dave or RRJ, he is making them look like old farts, like
ME.

Name: Dave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 06 July 2010

RE Signalman

Dropping a signal in front of as train by a CSX Signalman is
unthinkable.  That's why you have a special American H10KA lock
registered in your name.

Are you aware that CSX is now issuing this case lock to MOW crews who
have no idea they could wreck a train?  Are you aware that CSX is
allowing MOW gangs to shunt the tracks in order to work on the track
without interfering with the crossing system?  It happened in Florida
and killed a family.

You are right in calling DC if you see someone shunts a track.  If this
is a normal citizen they are considered a Terrorist.  If it's a rail
employee DON'T CALL, the FRA might actually have to investigate. Then
they would have to give an answer as to WHY the lights didn't keep
working under the Fail-Safe Principle.

Questions, Answers, Comments?
Thanks for working with me on this
Dave

Name: Dave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 06 July 2010

Signalman

My name is Dave Nelson and yes you probasbly know me if you've been
with CSX prior 1991.  I took on this fail-safe problem on behalf of the
signalmen and supervisors.  Of course I lost. HA! Still fighting it,
they left me with no options.  Now you know why Bill Scheerer (former
chief engineer signals) left.  Yes I know the answers but it is
important for the train crewemen on here to read the discussion. It's
a safety issue that can cost them their lives.

Back to fail-safe:
Let's say for right now it non signal territory.
 Step 1 The PMD or Sensor will detect the wire/shunt as a real train.
 Step 2 It will activate the crossing lights.
 Step 3 When the wire/shunt stays in the same place the Sensor will
assume the train/shunt has stopped on the approach and reset stopping
the lights.
 Step 4 the sensor will monitor this wire/shunt every few seconds
keeping the lights off,allowing traffic to flow.
 Step 5 When the real train hits the aproach circuit it goes undetected
at the CSX 30 second start point.
 Step 6 The Federal Regulations require a minimum warning time to
motorist of 20 seconds.  The train doesn't get detected at `1,500 ft,
1,000 feet, 500 ft.  It will only senese the train once it passes the
wire/shunt at 100 ft.  This gives a driver about 1.5 seconds warning
before being T-Boned.
 Step 7 You are right about the island circuit activating, but the
driver will be hit before they see the first blink of the lights.  The
island circuits purpose is to keep a train from sneaking up on the
crossing making 3 mph or less AND will keep the lights flashing when a
train is stopped on the crossing.
It is almost impossible to be T-Boned by a train, that is, unless the
gates and lights are telling the driver it is safe to cross when the
trains engine is less than 2 seconds away.
Questions? Answers? Different veiw point? Do you agree that motorists
are being set up for a T-Bone?
Thanks
Dave

Name: signal man 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 1-10 years
Posted: 06 July 2010

I want to add for the purpose of E-test or intentionally.....

Name: signal man 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 1-10 years
Posted: 06 July 2010

FYI for all the train crews......... 


It is illegal for anyone to interupt the signal system of CSX this goes
for trainmasters or even the CEO.... If you ever suspect the track was
shunted in front of your train by a csx employee you should contact
DC... I promise you in NO WAY will a signal employee ever drop a signal
in front of you or a signal manager do that... You need to call your FRA
if this happens because it is illegal and unsafe.......

Name: signal man 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 1-10 years
Posted: 06 July 2010

Dave I feel like you may already know the answer to whatever you ask. I
am only wondering if I know you... If your name really is dave you
sound like a guy I know that has the same last name as a very popular
beer.....You may be from Ky or at least have employees there....


anyhow....a PMD or GCP will in fact time out from a shunt placed on the
rail within the approach... however if this is in signaled territroy
than a TOL or trk light will appear and if there is a good dispatcher
in place than he or she will tell the crew to watch out with 100j until
a MTR can inspect...A new GCP will detect a short waning time though and
report it to JAX so that is indeed fail safe...So what scenario are you
looking at? A vandal in dark territory or signaled track.. In dark than
yes a vandal can cause a short warning time on a x-ing however the
island will always activate and the train speeds (if monitored ) will
be drastically lower than those of signaled track....

Name: Dave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 06 July 2010

Signalman

Great response!  We're on the righ track here no pun intended.
Hopefully we can help save some lives.
PLEASE don't give any information that could be traced back to you.

Now continuing:
Your answer was as long as the wire/shunt was left on the aproach
circuit the lights would flash forever.  This is what the "Fail Safe
Principle" means. Since the shunt is not an actual train and the
circuit can't detect the next train coming, the circuit is failing to
it's safest position, which is to flash the lights continuosly to warn
motorist.  This is found in the Code of Federal Regulations title 49 CFR
234.225 and 234.203. (Fail Safe Pronciple.  These DC cicuits DID follow
this fail safe practice.

Since most of the DC circuits have been replaced by a Harmon (Phase
Motion Detector, PMD) or Safetran (Motion Sensor) the "Fail Safe
Principle" had to be ignored.
Example:
A kid/vandal places a piece of wire/shunt on the approach where a PMD
or Sensor is in use and leaves it.  Please describe the action of the
warning system and describe the difference between the sensor and the
DC circuit as it looks at the shunted aproach.  Also, please run the
real train down the aproach for us while the wire shunt is 100 feet
from the crossing.
Thanks
Dave

Name: signal man 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 1-10 years
Posted: 06 July 2010

If it is indeed an old style DC circuit... Or as we call it a "ring
ten" circuit the crossing will continue to flas forever or until a
train or other shunt goes through the whole circuit. There will be
three segments in this kind of set up we will call them 123 to be easy



segment one shunts - x-ing activates 

segement two shunts (island) x-ing contiunes to activate 

segment three shunts-- still going 

now that three is down and 2 is down if the train or shunt is gone
segemnt one can pick back up. 

they go down 123 and pick up 123.

Now in the case of a predictor ( a newer version that calculates your
train speed.)you could shorten the approach by placing a shunt on the
track.. However this would not cause a problem unless you are in dark
territoy since a tracklight would appear and a maintainer would be
called to investigate. 

Hope this helps

Name: Dave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 06 July 2010

RE: Signalman
Thanks for the response.
First, let me say, I'm not out to get you, try to make you look bad,
or anything negative.  My purpose is to educate others on railroad
safety and our continued disussion can greatly help.

Now let me give an example and you answer since you're the expert
please.

A kid/vandal shunts out the approach circuit to a crossing with a piece
of wire.
This is the old style DC Stick Circuit.
The circuit will detect the wire as an actual train on the approach and
start to flash the lights at the crossing.
How long will the lights flash if the wire/shunt remains?
Can the circuit detect a train approaching the crossing beyond the
shunt?
Thanks 
Dave

Name: signal man 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 1-10 years
Posted: 06 July 2010

well that is not a problem. In fact you are not close in assuming that a
signal failure (by design) puts anyones life in danger. Actually all of
the signal designs are fail safe sooo that means they fail in the way
that adds more protection to the system. Back to the original. I always
hear a trainman say that the bosses are out to get them... you are not
the only ones saying that... Some bosses are pure shit and that is no
news. The problem is I have had a signal boss hide in the weeds and go
as far as drive behind me in his personal car and call me on the phone
just to see if I would answer... I too think that is bullshit, however
If you do not break the rules you do not get in trouble.  We are a
small group but I would love an instance besides a human factor where a
signal system failed and it put your life in danger. We have our fair
share of shitheads in our department as obviously you do that sometimes
dont do the right thing and it puts my and your life in danger. I do not
deny that. My overall comments are not about that though they are about
everyone at CSX has a pretty good job. And if you sift through the BS
and just play the game then you will not be treated unfairly and if you
still get treated that way then maybe you should demand change from your
union... Tell me what other skills do you have that you can leave CSX
and get another job paying a good salary. If there are any specifics to
signal standards you would like to know I have no problem with that...
Hey I would love to discuss it actually. And I would really like to
discuss that rule you guys have about not beating the crossing gates
before you proceed through from a dead stop... Since someone just did
that on my territory and hit a car because of a rule violation...

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 06 July 2010

Go gettem Dave that's your field of expertice. Your right he's in a
craft that is in the shadows a lot of people haven't a clue they even
excist unless you've been stopped at a signal for 3-4 hours like I
have hundreds of times waiting on work to be completed. Signal
maintainers are an intrigal part of operations and have my respect.

Name: Dave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 05 July 2010

AHH HAA! A CSX Signals guy!
RJR, If you don't mind, I'd like to handle this one.

Signal guy:
You seem to have a complaint with trainmen and how you have more FRA
work because of poor safety. (translation)
Are you willing to discuss CSX Signal failures that endanger the train
crews?
I invite you to an open discussion so we can all be better informed
rather than simply complain.  Anyone can complain! As a signal guys you
are one of those shadow figures that people posting here know little
about.
I'll even let you pick between subjects of TTC or Crossings.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 05 July 2010

signal man

Like you stated we are the biggest group and have more to bitch about.
Get together with the other guy you work with the two of you can have a
bitch session. Until you walk in our shoes you know nothing. When was
the last time you had officials spying in the bushes or setting up
traps on anyone in your profession? As for ice and water roundhouse
laborers lost jobs who were responsible for maintianing locomotives due
to downsizing. The occupation of locomotive engineer and conductors have
been forced to perform work that is not in the scope of our job
descriptions with no additional compensation. Just ask any clerk whose
been around 20 years or more what they've loss in job security because
those in transportation are forced to do their work. That's if you can
find one. When I hired out rail yards were like little cities today
there like ghost towns the hustle and bustle of carmen, clerks, yard
and road crews, MOW ect...24/7 is gone. Take your 1-10 years and shove
it where the sun don't shine.

Name: signal man 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 1-10 years
Posted: 04 July 2010

this has got to be a joke.. A big group of conductors and engineers that
have nothing better to do then cry. I am a signalman with CSX and have
never heard anyone cry and bitch as much as you guys. If you dont like
your jobs then quit. It is because of your rule violations and not
paying attention you ever get in trouble. Everytime I have to go to a
meeting with trans I hate it you are a big group of crying bitches.
Also it was a trans person that is making us work extra hard under FRA
and now we have to add PTC because one of you guys in California killed
a bunch of people while texting. Here is a hint, try to go get another
job and see if you get paid 50+K a year to sit on your ass and complain
because a caller runner didnt bring you ice and crew packs.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 04 July 2010

Hey RRJ: 

I made a comment about something like that happening prior to the vote
and commented that I wasn't surprised by the vote. I also stated when
the consolidation was announced that it was a done deal...just wish I
had insight like that when it comes to picking Power Ball #s.

I also stated the membership better have a top notch Labor Attorney
lined up because they would need one. If they have any hope of stopping
or at least slowing it down, they will have to go to court.
They can expect no help from International or the GCs, If they were
inclined to help papers would have been filed by now. The affected
locals need to pool their assets and get after it...or buy a drum of
KY!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 04 July 2010

NoMo

One friend on the C&O who has 34 years told me that he was informed
before the second vote if it was voted down again they would lose all
seniority rights in the yard to the SCL having to go behind the
youngest person. It was blackmail. My friend and I'm sure others
changed their minds and voted for the contract. The unions excuse for a
second vote some people stated they never recieved ballots. Boo Hoo!!!
They never bothered to bring it up before the original vote. The voting
method itself is questionable it was a postcard with a phone number
instead of a sealed ballot.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 04 July 2010

Hey RRJ:

It would be one thing if the GCoA for the L&N and C&O were going down
fighting...it appears they aren't, while International is sitting in
their new offices twiddling their thumbs.

What is more stupefying is the members are letting CSX and the UTU walk
all over them without as much as a whimper...I guess it is a brave new
world! 

Although I'm a firm believer in being represented by the union that
holds the contract you work under, in this case a change in affiliation
is called for. It's obvious the UTU and GCs could care less about the
contract and their members and are more interested in enriching
themselves...if the dog don't hunt, don't feed it!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 04 July 2010

I talked to a few trainmen this past week one discussion was the UTU
cram down contract. Parts of CSX (C&O, L&N) that voted down the
contract were about to lose everything to the SCL. Seniority was going
to be taken away. When I was informed that the general committees
allowed a second vote and it passed on the C&O that was confusing. All
over scare tactics that the union agreed to with CSX. Is the UTU
finished as a rail union? It appears so if their siding with the
railroad. When a union negotiates seniority away against the majority
vote of it's members then it's finished. Seniority is a key element
of the job it's job security and protection. The sell-out union has
done it again something I thought was impossible seeing the UTU had
already sold everyone out from the two brakemen to the locomotive
engineer. What's next conductors on thru freight?

Name: Tank
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 03 July 2010

took a look at the proposed consolidation that CSX wants to impose. 
Looks like Montgomery and Erwin are really gonna take up the ass.  Also
it is very obvious that CSX is kissing the SCL's ass and wanting to
punish the L&N for voting down the last agreement.  Wow what a great
company to work for.  The L&N local chairmen need to get off there
asses and stop this before shit really hits the fan.  Would like to
hear what everyone else has to say about this horse shit

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 03 July 2010

Did the webmaster forget about this website? Doesn't look like it has
been updated in the longest time. well besides the daily comments that
people post.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 02 July 2010

Start the day off with some safety violations?

      http://www.ebaumsworld.com/pictures/view/81025850/

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 02 July 2010

Hey Loco 10-20:

You sound like you were there...sometimes the best you can do just
ain't good enough!

Name: loco
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 01 July 2010

To all railroader wanna be I knew Fred Gibbs  a good friend and
railroader. I am so tired of people commenting on what they would have
done unless you are there you don,t know what the circumstances were
.Every company has there faults and CSX has some but when you take
trains through a sh*thole like New Orleans the railroads do the best
they can.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 29 June 2010

LMAO!!!! Lloyd I know you hate to agree with me. We may have
disagreements on union politics but when it's about doing the job
everyone should be on the same page. The only issue is to make sure we
all have the same interpatation of the rules. This practice by
management of setting up signals for testing is nothing new the
difference is now a days they do it more often. Unfortunately TM's &
RFE are forced to perform e-test and spying on crews most would rather
be doing something else.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 29 June 2010

Yes, they are shutting the intermediate signals to show red for
e-testing. I've been though that test already. Had a banner around the
next sharp curve. 
  And they drive around hiding in an area and listening to if you blow
the horn with the proper timing sequence at crossings, timing you with
a watch if you waiting the proper amount of time on your line of road
brake tests, the minute wait. Watching if the conductor is tying the
proper amount of handbrakes for the brake tests.  They park their
vehicles close enough to you to see and hear what your transmitting on
the radio, but you don't see them. 
   And they don't stop there. After you get off the locomotive after
tying it down, they get up on the motor and  check for all switches
being in the right position and brake handles. The road foreman also
does this when he boards your train en route if all the breakers on the
panel are in the proper position.  Besides all the other nonsense they
do

Name: Lloyd
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years
Posted: 29 June 2010

As much as I hate to agree with RRJ here, he has a good point. They are
ordered to test us out on the line of road and in most cases you should
be prepared for stuff like that.  I don't think a nasty curve or a
steep grade would be a proper place to put a stick man at but you
always have to be ready for the BS out here.  The worst things they do
are hiding in places e-testing and failing you for petty shit that you
only did wrong because you were trying to do the railroad a fucking
favor!  God forbid anyone try to go an extra mile or work hard out
here, you get fired for that shit.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 29 June 2010

To my knowledge shunting the rail for intermediate signals is
occasionally still going on for e-testing. It's now a restricted
proceed and the biggest failure is those who take it as running the
blocks of a train ahead. I know of a few where they ran over the stick
man or had to place the train in emergency to stop which is an
automatic failure to control train movement. Is it a stupid practice?
If a train crew isn't prepared for all unusual conditions then they
have no right to work on the railroad. Every now and then you still
hear about trains running into the rear of another because they
weren't running according to signal indication. One only needs to read
the definition of retricted proceed it may state not to exceed 15 mph
but that doesn't mean you can run at that speed unless conditions
allow. Curves are the one of biggest obsticle one must slow down to a
speed that permits stopping half the range of vision. There are no
excuses one must be a professional at all times. I've had more than
one run in with the RFE over speeds while running under these
conditions. If I feel 4 mph is an appropriate speed than that is my
right. On one e-test when on straight track I made my stop at half the
range after seeing the marker flashing he thought that clocking me on
radar at 11 mph was excessive speed. I told him to pack a big lunch
next time it'll be a while before he sees the train.

Name: JH BROWN
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 28 June 2010

I have been working in the yard the past 10 years so i really don,t know
what is going on out on the road that much, Ya a derailment or someone
running a red board, That kind of stuff does filter down into the yards
sort of fast, But i do know when i was on the road jobs as at times the
officals would run signal tests on trains, seemd they liked doing it at
automatic block signals out in the bood docks, ya know the old shunt
cord deal or getting a signal maintainer with them to trip a relay, I
always did think that was a dangerous practise as most of you should
know that braking & starting trains is were a lot of bad things can
happen, Sort of like air planes most dangerous part is landing & taking
off. I even know that when we had the stop & proceed signals those
officals out in the boon docks would also have a radar gun just to see
if anyone would take the stop & proceed then get up over speed before
they cleared the next signal which we all know is a rule violation, i
have not heard of them doing that the past few years so maby someone
from some other roads can enlighten me about this so called stupid
practise????

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 28 June 2010

For those of you that would like to see what this POS looks like and
read the comments...here's the link to the story:


http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2010/06/suspect_in_death_of_rail_condu.html

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 28 June 2010

Man booked in slaying of rail conductor 

Published: Sunday, June 27, 2010, 2:47 PM     Updated: Sunday, June 27,
2010, 3:58 PM

Dennis Persica, The Times-Picayune 

The suspect in the shooting death of a train conductor last week has
been booked  in connection with the case, the New Orleans Police
Department reported.

Byron Ross, 23, was arrested Wednesday by Jefferson Parish Sheriff's
Office deputies, said Officer Janssen Valencia, New Orleans Police
Department spokesman.

He was wanted in connection with the murder of 52-year-old Frederick
Gibbs, who was shot to death June 20 around 12:30 A.M., in the vicinity
of Marshall Foch Street and Florida Boulevard in New Orleans.

Ross was arrested in Jefferson Parish by sheriff deputies after serving
a search warrant in the 2200 block of Jefferson Highway. After the
arrest, Ross was charged with the following: attempted first degree
murder of a police officer, discharging a firearm, resisting arrest,
two counts of battery on a police officer, illegal possession of
firearms, and outstanding court attachments.

In Orleans Parish, he faces charges of first degree murder and
attempted first degree murder, Valencia said.

Name: Ms danvill
E-mail: Asmo
Employed as: Yard Master, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 26 June 2010

Word is Angie smith won her case against Csx . Found Csx guilty on all
counts/sexual harrassment withthanks going too wes knick. Next followed
up by retaliation for daring to report it.. Honor goes to jack Vierling
for firing her . Maybe Csx can sell his black belt in six sigma with
jay fleenors dentures and have enough for attorney fees. Honorable
mention goes to Terry schray and randy hall for nailing down the loose
ends and making sure the jurors had no doubt what a sleazy bunch Csx
has at the hel

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 26 June 2010

Hey RRJ:

You just need longer arms!

Masako Hirsch, The Times-Picayune 


A man who shot a Jefferson Parish deputy Wednesday night is the main
suspect in the fatal shooting of a CSX train conductor on Father's
Day, according to New Orleans police.

Byron Ross, 23, was arrested after the shooting of JPSO Detective
Solomon Burke when Burke tried to execute a search warrant at the
LaBella Motel on Jefferson Highway.

Share Ross shot Burke through the door, striking him in the side,
authorities said. Burke was protected by his bulletproof vest.

Ross is being held in Jefferson Parish on charges of attempted murder
of a police officer and possession of stolen property.

Jefferson Parish Sheriff Newell Normand and New Orleans Police
Superintendent Ronal Serpas appeared at a news conference Thursday
morning to announce the break in the cases. They said they were able to
link the firearm that Ross had in his possession to Sunday's murder of
CSX conductor Fred Gibbs, and that the gun used in both shootings was
stolen from a pawn shop near the hotel.

Ross has been charged thus far with attempted murder of an officer and
possession of stolen property, according to New Orleans police.

Gibbs, 52, of Mississippi, was shot several times while the train was
parked near Florida Boulevard and Marshall Foch Street in Lakeview
because of traffic delays. The shooting happened during what appears to
have been an attempted robbery in the train's engine compartment. 

The shooter fled after the incident and Gibbs died at the scene.
Matthews said they found Ross by following the trail of some of Gibbs'
possessions that were stolen when he was killed. 

Serpas said they are continuing the investigation. "This guy is behind
bars and hopefully behind bars for the rest of his life," Serpas said.



Sentencing guidelines per Wiki:

Louisiana
Louisiana states that homicide in the first degree is killing of a
human being with intent. There are other specific guidelines like
killing a police officer or firefighter is an automatic first degree
charge or intent to kill more than one person is automatically a first
degree charge. In the State of Louisiana you can receive life
imprisonment or the death penalty

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 26 June 2010

My bad. I think I need new reading glasses. The bottom part of the
article stated what he is charged with which was misleading seeing it
doesn't mention first degree murder. Yet!!!!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 26 June 2010

The article didn't say anything about the murder of Conductor Gibbs
except for it's under investigation. Attempted murder alone for the
detective means life in prison. Hopefully the gun can be linked to this
tragidy.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 25 June 2010

Good job catching this killer

Name: MadMan
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 30+ years
Posted: 25 June 2010

I agree with Nomo! This idiot should also be charged at the Federal
level also since it involved Interstate Commerce! I can Smell the Death
Pentaly Here!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 25 June 2010

Well I'm glad they caught the Bastard...he's Angola bound for sure.
Wonder if he'll be charged with First Degree Murder which could result
tn the Death Penalty!

Name: Safe
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 25 June 2010

Home  Police e-Alerts  NOPD 3rd Dist. Alerts  Suspect Arrested in
Connection With Lakeview Murder Of Train Conductor - 06-23-2010 
Suspect Arrested in Connection With Lakeview Murder Of Train Conductor
- 06-23-2010 
Thursday, 24 June 2010 08:15    .On Sunday, June 20th, 2010 at around
1:00 A.M., a homicide by shooting
occurred in the 800 block of Florida Boulevard, during which train
conductor Fred Gibbs was shot to death during an attempted armed
robbery. During the course of the investigation Homicide Detective
Orlando Matthews developed Byron Ross (B/M 06-12-1987) as a suspect
and obtained a warrant for his arrest. Detective Matthews, with the
assistance of the Jefferson Parish Sheriffs Office, located,
apprehended and arrested Mr. Ross at a motel in the 3200 block of
Jefferson Highway. During the apprehension, a JPSO Detective was shot
by Mr. Ross through the door, striking him in his bulletproof vest,
causing non life-threatening injuries. The handgun used in the
homicide was also recovered, which was discovered to be stolen. Mr.
Ross is currently being held in Jefferson Parish for attempted murder
of a police officer as well as for possession of stolen property, and
will be extradited to New Orleans on a future date.

Additional information on this arrest and/or subsequent prosecution
can be obtained via the Docket Master at www.opcso.org.

If you have any further information on this incident, please call the
Homicide Division at 658-5300. You may also call Crimestoppers
anonymously at 822-1111.

Remember to report any suspicious persons or activities you see in
your neighborhood by calling 821-2222. In an emergency, call 911
immediately.


Major Greg Elder
Third District

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 25 June 2010

Hey RRBoard:

We would pick up a run through from the UP at Gentilly that had cones
in the wind shield from bullets. I don't know if it was a stray shot
from a drive by or someone shooting at a Coyote.

The UP engines were the worst, I don't recall any BNSF engines that
had dinged wind shields. I think the FRA requires cracked wind shields
be replaced immediately (as soon as possible) on engines used in the
lead.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 24 June 2010

Only an unsafe idiot runs over themself while operating an RCO. it's
not rocket science. And this website is what sucks. Obviously it was
created by someone fired from the company or someone that is just too
dumb to be hired. I mean seriously, if CSX sucks so bad just quit. Or
maybe it's all you know and just can't hack the real world.

Name: rrboard
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 23 June 2010

Ive always been told that the windows in locomotive cabs are suppose to
be bullet proof...what happened to that?  my thoughts are that any
railroad carrier should have a railroad policeman attending the head
end of the train whenever it is stopped near a city...especially
NOLA...this isnt the first time this has happened. other guys have been
assaulted and robbed at I 10 years ago from Norfolk Southern Railroad. 
Trains carry far more dangerous things than airplanes and can wipe out
a whole city if highjacked.  CSX will pay for far more than a funeral
and burial expenses to this family...they provided an unsafe working
environment for the engineer and conductor of that train...my thoughts
and prayers go out to that family, the engineer, and all railraod
workers!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 23 June 2010

Looks like the crews will have to draw straws to see which one hits the
street...the Engineer for napping or the Con for not walking the
train!

Wonder how that will play out when they go to one man crews? 

No napping. No ground inspections. Can't walk the train until there
are sufficient hand brakes applied to secure the train...but wait, the
Engineer can't leave the cab until the train is secured and the list
goes on.

I bet the rules change then!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for N/A
Posted: 23 June 2010

Door locks working should be mandatory . Also something should be done
about the back glass , such as a metal screen of some sort .

Name: Some RFE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 23 June 2010

To Suzannah(QS 9), 

If you want me to get technical, we can.  But as someone who has worked
into Toledo, Chicago, Cincinnati, and Indianapolis(to name a few), I
have never enforced 4300B, I have found D-1 more important to a crew's
safety, let alone morale. As you can see the "walking your train rule"
was removed from the OPR book, and practically hidden in the EHR. This
is why it goes unenforced, it does possibly mean some 2 "week off the
street" TM brainiac could start enforcing it, and hold your crew
accountable for not following it, and you charged with sleeping, while
your conductor does his/her inspection per 4300B.

As RRJ(JGM) says...Know your rules. Open the book. Start discussions
with managers and other employees, I did when I was behind the throttle
and do now as an RFE. Hopefully as more discuss this, we can push to get
EHR 4300B changed or eliminated.


Know these highpoints:
 
1. You do not have THE RIGHT to nap. You can only do so as per RULE
D-1(get your rest when you are subject to call, I did it for years as
an EN/CO and still do, even though I am not on HOS)
2. 4300B indicates your conductor make an immediate walking
inspection.(note the word IMMEDIATE)
3.Under D-1 you cannot nap because you cannot meet requirements of D-1,
part 1 or D-1 part 2 C (all of part 2 must happen for you to take a
nap)...hence napping is out, it unsafe for your CO to be walking train
while you are sleeping.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
RULES FOR YOUR REFERENCE:


4300.B
Making Inspections in Addition to Defect and Clearance Detectors
In addition to inspections made by defect detectors and clearance
detectors, make:
• Frequent, on-board, visual inspections of both sides of your train.
• An immediate walking inspection of as much of the train as possible
when your train is stopped on line-of-road.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
OPR D-1 Part 1:
Train crews will be permitted to nap, except when
the employees are:
a. In a situation where the personal safety of the
employees, or the safety of the train or the public
could be jeopardized.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
OPR D-1 Part 2
Napping While En Route
When a train is stopped en route one employee may
nap, provided napping is not prohibited by Paragraph A,
above, and the following conditions are met:

c. The employee designated to stay awake will
remain in the locomotive cab and wake the napping
employee(s) when the delay to the train ends or
after forty-five minutes, whichever occurs first.
Except when inspecting passing trains.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 23 June 2010

I would to pass along my condolences to the Gibbs family for their
tragic loss. I didn't know Mr. Gibbs.

There are plenty of ways to die on the railroad...none of which is
good. This is however especially terrifying.

Here is an excerpt from a Email I received yesterday evening:

"The Engineer fell to the floor and played dead after the window of
the rear door was shot out and the assailant entered and shot the
Conductor three times as he was trying to go out the front door. The
assailant searched the Engineers back pocket, took his billfold and
then searched the dead Conductor and took all money and billfold from
his pocket and left through the front door."

Keep the doors locked...your life might depend on it!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 22 June 2010

If CSX doesn't care about safety they sure waste a lot of money on it.
Problem is their not utilizing it in the proper context. Harrassment
doesn't produce a safe envirement just the opposite. Banner test,
spying on the workforce, enforcing mediocre rules with time in the
street ect...things that never happened in the past except for a few
gung-ho TM's that eventually were put in there place by upper
management. CSX isn't changing anything not if the workforce is
disgruntled. Once upon a time the workforce was a companies greatest
assest now their treated as a liability. It's not just CSX.

NoMo is correct it's your right to request protection in areas deemed
unsafe. These problems have been going on for decades. I remember going
thru industrial sections of cities back in the '70s getting out of
curves and seeing someone tossed a molitov cocktail setting a car on
fire when the train stopped like cockroaches people would swarm
breaking into boxcars stealing whatever they could. We ended up getting
Special Agents protection when rolling or stopping in these areas. Just
about everyone had a gun in their grip couldn't use them unless we
were physically threatened and that was questionable. It was the FRA
who cracked down on weapons not the railroads back in the late '80s
early '90s. There were two guys who did a lot of target practice one
carried a 44 magnum the other had a 41 magnum & a 30 caliber revolver a
van driver noticed it in their grips while loading up and turned them
in. The next trip trainmasters and special agents were waiting for them
wanting to search their grips luckily both never placed the guns into
their grips till walking to the train after getting paperwork. A
persons grip is their property CSX does not have the right to search it
unless there is just cause. A person can refuse wait until a search
warrant is granted. Refusal would most likely end up with a charge of
insubordination. It's a double edged sword. Nothing to hide no need to
protest.

Name: Lloyd
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years
Posted: 22 June 2010

If anyone out there thinks CSX really cares about our safety that's
pretty laughable, especially if they have read this site for any amount
of time.  It's not just crime though we have to worry about, it's
bridges with very little walkways, ballast that just slides right down
the minute you put your foot on it, and not to mention dogs, crack
heads, and passing freight trains if you have to walk one on double
main with no walkway on the other side.  They sure like to harp on
safety but the truth is all they care about is moving the train from
point A to point B, nothing else.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 22 June 2010

Hey Sad:

Gentilly has several Special Agents...if you have to deliver, insist
that a SA ride with you. CSX has to by law provide a safe working
environment.

The articles can't seem to get the facts together...one said a tote
and the other said a mixed freight. I think we use to deliver the Q605
to Marconi.

The UP use to deliver to Gentilly...CSX hasn't delivered to the UP
yard since before I started. I think that's the NS's line and is
used
by CSX, NS, UP and KCS, I'm not sure about the CN/IC or NOPB but
there's a lot of traffic not to mention the Interlocking into Oliver
Yard.

Since you are delivering past Marconi are you getting extra miles now.
It use to be 136 to Gentilly but they gave you 139 because
Marconi was the end of CSX's territory.

I always had a S&W Model 40 and never got off the engine without it...

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 21 June 2010

A Mississippi man was shot to death early Sunday aboard a CSX train that
had stopped in Lakeview.
 
The victim, Fred Gibbs, 52, was conductor of the mixed-freight train,
which was en route from Atlanta to New Orleans. Gibbs was identified by
the Orleans Parish Coroner's Office.

Gibbs was was shot multiple times during what appears to have been an
attempted robbery in the train's engine compartment, said Officer
Hilal Williams, an NOPD spokeswoman. Gibbs was pronounced dead on the
scene. The shooter fled after the incident, police said.
The incident occurred while the train was parked near the intersection
of Florida Boulevard and Marshall Foch Street due to traffic delays. 

A CSX spokesperson said "our thoughts and prayers are with his
family."

Homicide Detective Orlando Matthews is in charge of the investigation
and can be reached at 504.658.5300. 

Anyone with information that can help solve this crime is asked to call
CRIMESTOPPERS at 504.822.1111 or toll-free at 877.903.STOP(7867). A cash
award of up to $2,500 is available for information leading to an
indictment.

Name: Sad
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 21 June 2010

Word has went out that they will be checking all bags on crews going
back to Mobile from New Orleans tomorrow because of course they all
were carrying guns.  Unreal.  They will not protect you or allow you to
protect yourself.

Name: Sad
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 21 June 2010

CSX conductor shot dead in New Orleans 
NEW ORLEANS -- A 52-year-old on-duty CSX conductor was shot to death
early Sunday, June 20, in what New Orleans police say was a botched
robbery attempt that escalated to murder. 

The New Orleans Times-Picayune newspaper identified the victim as
Frederick Gibbs of Biloxi, Miss., a member of UTU Local 598. The
shooting occurred around 12:30 a.m. 

Police said that in response to a call of "shots fired," they
discovered the victim beside a  CSX  intermodal train and suffering
"multiple" gunshot wounds. The victim was pronounced dead at the
scene by emergency medical technicians, police said. 

The intermodal train, enroute to New Orleans from Atlanta, was stopped
in downtown New Orleans when the crime occurred.

Police said the shooter had fled the scene by the time they arrived. 

(The preceding article is based on reports from the New Orleans
Times-Picayune, New Orleans Police Department and other sources.)

Name: Sad
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 21 June 2010

Also, while that is not the worst area in New Orleans by any means,
would you want to be out there by yourself at 1 am?  Remember the whole
city changed after Katrina.

Name: Sad
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 21 June 2010

He was a Mobile Conductor Nomo.  After Katrina the Mobile crews started
delivering alot of the trains to i-10.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 21 June 2010

Hey Sad:

Marshall Fock is a couple of blocks west of Marconi. We use to deliver
the Q145 to the UP at Marconi. Marconi is at City Park and is in a
decent part of town...a couple of blocks either side and it ain't so
good. I have only been past Marconi a couple of times on the way to KCS
yard, after the North approach to Rigolets burnt in 2001.

The article didn't mention any names and Guy doesn't sound
familiar...although everyone at Gentilly had nick names. Gentilly had a
high turn over rate and outside of road service i hadn't worked there
since early 2002.

Name: Sad
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 21 June 2010

Nomo, you might have known this guy.  He was a CSX conductor and was
probably working in Mobile when you were still around.  Very very sad. 
Guy was always in a good mood.  He was doing something that guys from
Mobile do every day.  He was delivering the 145 on the Southern back
belt to Marconi or I-10.  It was so unnecessary.  That is a horrible,
horrible part of town you have to go through in a horrible city.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 21 June 2010

A train conductor was killed early today in what appeared to be an
attempted robbery, the New Orleans Police Department reported.

The conductor, 52, was found shot to death on board the train around
12:30 a.m. near Marshall Foch Street and Florida Boulevard on the
Norfolk Southern Railroad, said Officer Hilal Williams, NOPD
spokesperson.

Investigators believe the train was travelling west and had come to a
stop because of traffic delays on the railroad.  At that point someone
boarded the train, apparently intent on robbery.
The conductor was killed and the robber fled, Williams said. Emergency
medical technicians pronounced the man dead on the scene. His name has
not been released.

Homicide Detective Orlando Matthews is in charge of the investigation
and can be reached at 504.658.5300. 
 
Anyone  with information that can help solve this crime is asked to
call CRIMESTOPPERS at 504.822.1111 or  toll-free at 877.903.STOP(7867).
 A cash award of up to $2,500 is available for information leading to an
indictment.

Name: Errrrr
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 21 June 2010

Incident in New Orleans. RIP

Name: suzannah
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 20 June 2010

Point!!!!

Doesnt matter!   If I choose to take a nap my conductor will stay in
the cab (unless train comes by and needs roll by). Now RFE what rule do
you have to shoot down my right to nap while Im sitting in a siding
waiting for the more important train than mine to come by?

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 20 June 2010

Hey RRJ:

Yeah you're right...it's good to know where to look. Unfortunately
there are so many rules and rule books they need to index and cross
reference them which would require another volume.

Probably 50% of the rules and unnecessary; however like you said
every time there's an event, there's a new rule. The Operating Rules
Dept. has to justify their jobs.

It use to be if a question arose either the Con or the Engineer knew
the rule or where to look, with the old heads a vanishing breed that
knowledge is also going...but may only be a cell phone call away! My
bad, I forgot that cell phones are a no no.

I guess the rule books will become required reading again. For
Gentlemen of leisure like us, those volumes and CBA make wonderful
liners for bird cages!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 19 June 2010

NoMo

At least he gave where to find it. When I hired out the rule book with
everything you needed to know fit in your back pocket. It's a good
thing to have people actually opening them up every now and then. Most
times those books sit in the grips an are only used once a year for the
Operating Rules test on the pod which is open book. Knowing where to
look up a rule is part of the job. Sooner or later a situation will
happen that finding the right rule is a must to perform the work.
Inspecting a train would definitely fall under "Equipment Handling".
I don't know the rules by number never have except for the ones we
used everyday.

Name: Some RFE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 19 June 2010

If I give all the answers, she'll never learn. I know the rule number,
so crack open the books, I promise she won't get in trouble, she may
learn where it is in the book, by actually reading it for knowledge,
instead of memorizing like a parrot for some BS multiple choice test.  
How about that Gillerain rules knowledge? Why not show it off for the
crowd?

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 June 2010

With regard to the previous post...that's a perfect reason why front
line management at CSX is a joke. Why didn't you just give her the
rule number and impart some of your wisdom...instead of acting
like a railroad god, I mean a stupidvisor. Regardless of what you think
or have been told; your primary responsibility is to facilitate the
crews and therefore the operation of the CSX.

It's the T&E men and women that provide you a job. Therefore it's in
your best interest to support them. Without them, you're redundant and
expendable...think about it!

Name: Some RFE
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 19 June 2010

Check your equipment handling book. Let us know the rule number when you
find it.

Name: suzannah
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 19 June 2010

RRJ,
You have me baffled. Cant find the rule in op rules book that says
anything about having to walk your train if you are going to be in
siding 40 minutes or longer... Where is it?  Its a big gray area if it
is in our book.
 
General rules D-2...Napping
Napping while in route...When a train is stopped in route... conduct a
job briefing to determine which employee will nap and which employee
will stay awake.
Condition the trains air brakes as prescribed by rule.
The employee designated to stay awake will REMAIN in the cab and wake
the napping employee when the delay to the train ends or after "45"
minutes, whichever occurs first. EXCEPT when inspecting passing trains.


There is always some!!!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 18 June 2010

Those watches were part of a "safety award" not issuing required
equipment. The crackdown was due to people using cell phones as their
timepiece. Under the general rules GR-103-B-C doesn't specify that it
must have a seconds hand anymore so I'd take it that digital is
acceptable. It states that it must indicate the hours, minutes, and
seconds and can't lose or gain more than one minute in a 12 hour
period. Watches must be compared to Standard Time and once that has
been done other crew members will compare watches. One important aspect
is flag protection using the fastest time for clearing or providing flag
protection and the slowest time for stopping or waiting on flag
protection.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 17 June 2010

Their suppose to supply you with everything? I've never seen them
supply watches. Some things a person has to purchase then it can be a
write off on taxes as work supplies. There's nothing today to bond
anyone to tradition and the railroad has a lot of them most seem to be
forgotten.

Name: CSX Blows
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 17 June 2010

They slacked off on the whole wearing a watch thing. They are supposed
to provide you with the nessicary equipment if it is required by your
job description. For example,take lanterns for instance. They are given
to switchmen and the like because it is required for them to have this.
Lets face it, the comapny is not going to buy everyone a watch. They
have given them out twice on my division and both times I declined to
take one. It was pretty comical when they gave them out because after
one guy who recived his,he walked out of the room and put it on the
band broke then the crystal came off. I mean this thing was just
falling apart and he had'nt had it but for 5 minutes. By the time he
got home there was prob nothing left to the watch.......lol

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 June 2010

Hey RRJ:

I couldn't remember the multiplier for road service...1.5 for yard
service is correct though.

Traditions die hard...I find it hard to believe that digital timepieces
are not allowed. I wore a Casio G-Shock that was dead letter accurate,
self adjusting and indestructible. It's funny that CSX's entire
system is based on digital not mechanical time but rules won't allow
you to have a digital timepiece! 

Think I'll go the the beach enjoy a frosty or two and watch the tar
balls wash in!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 17 June 2010

NoMo

CSX was cracking down on timepieces when I left. A watch must have a
seconds hand and can not be a digital watch. It's about time it
happened watches are an old tradition on the railroad some things
should remain of tradition. Best watches which are still rated railroad
approved on the dial are Seiko, Pulsar, and Bulova.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 17 June 2010

red

It's 234 days to make vacation. It's based on milage a basic day is
130 miles so each day would count as 1.3 towards vacation for each day
you work. Longer the milage on the run the more it counts. A yard day I
do believe is counted as 1.5 days.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 16 June 2010

You can call it laziness if you want. Unless you've had a bolt, rivet,
brake shoe or gravel fly by your head.....then it's self defense.

Name: CSXBlows
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 16 June 2010

I remembered when you cubbed with me NoMo, smoking that nasty cigar..
Took me while to fugure out who you are though.

Name: red
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 16 June 2010

I've been laid off and just came back to work.  I'm on the road. Does
anyone know how many qualifing days I need for vacation.

I'm hearing 240 or 234 does anyone know for sure.

Thanks

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 16 June 2010

Hey RRJ:

So they modified the rule...damn, it was a money maker for sure.

I probably should have kept up better with the rules after I left,
nah. I never did understand not inspecting trains as they passed, pure
laziness on the part of the con.

Another rule they better watch is the time piece rule. When I left,
few if any had watches...didn't need them, had cell phones. Today with
cells being strictly taboo they better be sporting a watch or they might
get busted twice with one rule!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 15 June 2010

NoMo

That rule has been modified. Once a train is stopped the train
dispatcher must be notified if they state you'll be there for 40
minutes the conductor is required to walk 20 minutes towards the rear
then 20 minutes back. Quite a few people have been busted over the past
year with TM's or the RFE sitting watching a side track at all hours
day and night. Another rule people are getting busted for is not
getting on the ground to inspect a passing train if feasable the
conductor will be on the other side the engineer will inspect it from
the locomotive. The engineer can't get on the ground unless the train
has been properly secured with handbrakes and handbrake test. An
assinine rule that is baffling I've never seen a train move with air
brakes applied while sitting in a sidetrack. I'm sure some dummy
didn't apply the brakes and a train rolled out. CSX just makes up
another rule instead of making it an isolated incident. Then again with
training the way it is today it might make sense.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 June 2010

Hey Goober:

The only reason to walk a train in a siding is an arcane operating rule
that probably predates you. I think he was just doing his job
properly. I don't think CSX enforces it any more...if they did, all
the new hires would be on the street.

Frankly, I'm surprised it's still on the books. Imagine you're on a

9000' tote in a siding waiting. You do your job, walk the train and
get to the end just as the light turns green. Walking 9000'on solid
ground would probably take 25 min., walking the rocks would probably be
more like 35 or 40 min. Do you think your name might be mentioned
during the conference call the next day? They might even charge you
with delaying a train.

You're damned if you do and damned if you don't!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 June 2010

Can't Imagine any person walking a train in a side track, that refuses
to jump over and walk a little hard ballast. Especially after 30 years
of service. It seems to me they may work for years and never really get
a handle of what over the road actually means.

I could hear them and see them, jump to the hard side and walk 10 or
more cars before they ever blew by, then crawl back to the easy
walking. 

Never stood between the cars, no reason to, they could move at any
moment, and at times would. Step in there and a dumb ass engineer in
anticapation of a green signal let's the brakes off slack runs and you
are walking really funny side ways with no place to go.

At least if you care more about the hours than you do about getting
over the road, just find a nice porch to hold on to, but stay away from
the ground, or keep a train between ya for protection. I have seen coal
trains unload a coal bunker at speed, it is not pretty.

Name: Dr Ruth
E-mail: 
Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 15 June 2010

C&O Joe:

Sounds like to me you may be the one that needs laid. Maybe you and Wes
could do each other since you both seem to be experts on who needs
fucked.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 June 2010

How did that POS Wolfe cause a derailment in Newport News?

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 12 June 2010

NoMo

I'm sure Wade was standing in between the cars. I noticed a short
article about this on the UTU website this morning. Most tracks won't
allow anyone to walk or stand in between the tracks seeing most were
originally designed when freight cars were a lot smaller. I remember
seeing a video of a conductor getting on board a locomotive while on
the steps an Amtrak came by doing 70mph and just sucked the conductor
into it. The cameras at an Amtrak station caught it. Explainations
ranged from all that possibilities that the person tripped and fell
ect...Even if someone is in between cars there is only 2 feet max of
space separating the trains. A good example of a vacuum would be
driving on a interstate an a tractor trailer zips by you at a high rate
of speed and you feel your car being drawn towards it especially if you
own a small compact.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 12 June 2010

Mongo

There is another website which can answer your questions it has an
employment forum section it's www.railroad.net

All you're going to get here is negative responses. At least on
railroad.net people will take the time to answer questions. There
already is a "CSX hiring" topic which has around 26+ pages. All you
need to do is browse thru it, it list all your concerns. The website
does frown on dual topics so don't start another thread if you do they
will delete it.

Name: Mongo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 12 June 2010

I just put in apps for Batlimore, Cumberland and Richmond VA. Granted if
Im lucky to get interviewed and hired. Does anyone know what these
terminals are like? I see good and bad comments at this site so I
figure someone here can hopefully give me a straight answer. I live in
PA and applied for openings in VA and MD.....what are the odds of
getting hired? Does it matter that Im willing to relocate or am I SOL
since I live in PA and would have to move myself down to near the
terminal that I would hopefully luckly get hired at. Any advice on the
interviews and what not would be of great help.

Name: flo joe
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 12 June 2010

everyone might like to know that Tom Wolfe, eveyones favorite VP,and ex
GM of Florence Divisions son Tom Wolfe Jr caused major derailment at
Newport News. Shut down entire sub division....Im sure Wolfe Sr. would
be more than understanding if it had happened to one of his
crews....maybe he can promote him to AVP under daddy's watch

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 12 June 2010

Hey RRJ:

I know technology exists to detect the radio frequencies the cell
phones operate on. With that said, I have been told these receivers
can and have been installed in Defect Detectors.

So talk at your own risk!

In regard to the conductor being struck...you're always better off
walking the outside of the track....except the walking conditions are
abysmal. I always walked between the tracks but would step between cars
as the train passed. The totes were the worse when it came to creating
suction.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 11 June 2010

An email I recieved yesterday from the BLET concerned cell phone use on
duty. It's a lesson that people are being monitored and not just by
the railroad. A locomotive engineer on the Union Pacific was busted for
posting on facebook while operating a train. Those who busted him the
FRA. Along with the engineer the FRA is also charging the UP. It
wasn't that long ago on this very site I discussed this issue after I
found people doing the very same thing. Which I notified the LC's for
the BLET & UTU. Irresponsible actions like this will lead the railroads
to banning cell phones on duty all together even in the turned off mode.


On a sadder note. I recieved a call last night that there was a
fatality it was a co-worker. He was making a brake test on the mainline
when another train notified him they were coming by him. He reported
that he was in the clear. The other train was traveling around 60mph.
The conductor on the ground was struck by the passing train. Please if
possible get to the otherside of the train out of harms way. This
conductor was a seasoned veteran with over 30 years on the railroad. My
opinion is trains traveling in excess of 50mph creates a vacuum that can
draw a person that's in between tracks into it. This isn't the first
time this has occured. With all the bullschidt being dealt on CSX the
main concern is that everyone goes home safe & intact to their
families.

Name: slack aciton
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 11 June 2010

RRJ... I bet if old tank had to set off a Bad Order on line of road and
had the whole RR tied tighter than dicks hand band, I wonder who he
would want with him to help him get out the the mess, You or his pot
smoking buddy....You can't substitute experience....

 Good judgment comes from experience, and experience comes from bad
judgment.. I wonder which one he will choose. I guess he expects to tie
up the whole rairoad for him to stop a train on the Main line...Hey just
stop the Amtrak, PIgs, Auto train, GM train, juice train, hell just stop
everything and get the old boy a helicopter....A  bet a dollar to a dime
he will never see 5 years....Instead of him saying "give me 5 car
lengths",  it will be " do you want fries with that happy meal"....

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 10 June 2010

tank

What's the union got to do with anything? It definitely wasn't a
union JOINT effort to get your wife pregnant. Trainmaster? Is that the
best you can come up with for an insult? I'm glad I retired a lot of
dimwitted people out on the railroad today. I don't give a crap if
your wife is pregnant or if you want to risk losing your job. I only
made suggestions as a good railroader/union member. The union isn't
here to allow you a free pass to violate rules when you see fit. I
don't think anyone has the right to jeaprodise their co-workers
because they feel entitled. It has been along time since I've had a
child born in fact I'm sure their older than you. My point was to give
you alternatives other than the BS you spouted which NoMo was right it
most likely was just internet balls talking.

Name: Det. Munch
E-mail: blowme@yahho.com
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 10 June 2010

The mechanical department has steadily slid into craptitude.  The final
blow was the appointment of Gary Bethel as VP-Mechanical.  At the time
of the appointment, a short-line was advertising for the very same
position.  Bethel did not qualify for the job.  Now, how did he qualify
for the job on a class 1 railroad?  As long as this board of directors
continues to smile and giggle as Ward blows smoke up their stovepipe,
it will continue to suck.  These morons spend alot of time writing
people up instead of training them, and it is pathetic.  And hiring
trainmasters off the street without training them in the jobs they are
actually supervising is the height of insanity.  They're all company
drones.  If they don't see it on the monthly video, they don't know
it at all.  How these guys pass their pods is beyond me.

Name: Tank
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 10 June 2010

RRJ,

    If you had a baby born on time you are one out of 75 Americans who
baby was born on time.  Also just curious where are you a train master
at?  You for sure aren't Union

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 10 June 2010

as long as you know whats most important.....

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 10 June 2010

Right? Just keep paying into Railroad Retirement an I'll keep
collecting a check every month. That's the most important thing. If
they schidtcan your arse they'll be someone else waiting to take your
place. That is a gaurentee.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 09 June 2010

RRJ--you don't get it...and you don't give sound advice.  How many
children are born on their due date ? and how many two weeks after or
before?....The point is --we can't trust the people we work with for
obvious reasons--if you knew this guy who's son died than you should
know better .......you are a foolish old man .

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 09 June 2010

tank

I gave you good sound advise. Take it or leave it. I could care less
what happens in your life. Be a man, mark off. No one has the right to
jeaprodise their co-workers for selfish reasons. If you think not
getting notified over the birth of your child is a horror story you've
lived a sheltered life. I knew a conductor many years ago whoses son
died and wasn't notified because he was already enroute on the train
heading back to the home terminal it was quicker to keep him on the
train then stop everything. That felt like a horror story in reality
the C&O did the best thing possible they got him home by the quickest
means. You're not entitled to anything. You have a due date that
conductor didn't.

Name: who care's
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 09 June 2010

WICK,

    Not that any union guys really care, but last time i checked we
were killing NS in safety for the year.  Next time dont come to our
board unless you have something that interest us.

Name: Tank
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 09 June 2010

hey RRJ, are you and nomo have sex?  My point is, if my wife calls
dispatcher or yard master, they may or may not take there sweet time
letting us know.  I have seen and heard to many horror stories where
wife tries to call stating she is in labor and it takes 20 or more
minutes to get in touch with husband.  If phone could be used it would
take less than 1 minute.  If i got to break a rule..so be it, i will be
damned if i miss my 1st child birth.  How bout you and nomo share
sucking on the corp teet.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 10-20 years
Posted: 09 June 2010

I would encourage employees not to the use the EAP hotline. Once an EAP
rep from CSX gets involved in your case you will have a hard time
getting back to work. I have had four doctors say that I can return to
work but they won't let me. They keep telling me that it is a safety
issue.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 09 June 2010

tank

Do you people think your the first to deal with this situation? With
all pregnancies there is a due date just take some PL or DV days or a
weeks vacation. That's pretty childish to state you'll violate a
federally mandated (not CSX) rule EO#26 because you feel you're
entitled. That shows disrepect to your co-workers who could also get
busted because you kept a cell phone turned on. Walking off the job CSX
should bust anyone for the stupidity of not doing the right thing in the
first place. I'm sure in most situations CSX would deadhead you home if
you're in the lodging, but they can't just take someone off a train
enroute or allow someone to just walk away with reprocussions. Be a man
take responsibilty mark off ahead of time. Believe me you'll need the
job for the insurance before an after the baby arrives more than CSX
needs you.



ex-conductor 1-10

Great to hear someone realizes CSX doesn't force anyone to stay. That
the option to quit has always been available. Thousands of people are
waiting to fill the slot. Good luck.

Name: Tank
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 08 June 2010

Friend of CSX worker,

     My wife is pregnant as well and i will be damned if i turn off my
phone.  If i am at work when she calls i will tell her to call the YM
or Train Dispatcher (depending where i am working) one time.  If i dont
get a response in 5 minutes, my ass is off and gone.  They don't want
you to interferer with them making money and your outside life is at
the very bottom of the list of core values

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 08 June 2010

I am happy because I just quit CSX!!! Good Luck !

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 07 June 2010

Awfull quiet out there, is everyone happy and content?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 07 June 2010

Has anyone heard about the redistricting of the B&O Western?

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 05 June 2010

Pretty slick presentation...you might think CSX doesn't have their hand
out.

Anyone who thinks for a New York second that any of these corridor
improvements will easy congestion on our highways is delusional. They
might take a few truck loads off which will promptly be replaced
by more cars. The congestion is a result of too many vehicles and not
enough lanes.

If the want to ease congestion on the highways it will be a high speed
passenger rail system that does it.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 10-20 years
Posted: 05 June 2010

well, they are to undercut most of the bridges on the New Castle Sub
(for double stacks) out of Pitts.

makes sense...


and, I believe they are to add a connection trk on the Toledo br. at
Fostoria

makes sense...

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 05 June 2010

When do you think they are gonna let everyone in Buffalo and Syracuse
know that the new gateway project will get rid of most of the Albany
Division?.......www.nationalgateway.org

Name: MAHER
E-mail: mmajdalawi@yahoo.com
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 01 June 2010

HI 
Thank you for this what i need 

frame how i can do investagation for accidents in railway
 correct way , first stap , sec. ..... etc.
what the principles i do fro this , when the reason . rail , locomotive
or wagons , or others .

how i can do it .

best regards

Name: Wick
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 01 June 2010

To: Mikey
From: Wick

I hope our Old NS employees are still doing well at your company with
the exception of Tony I heard he kinda left you before he could do what
he promised. As you can read below we have done it again.  Maybe if you
have time come by for our little party. Should you need any help please
just call

Running with the Winning Horse.


Norfolk Southern wins 21st consecutive gold E.H. Harriman Award for
employee safety

Rail Industry Honors Annual Safety Achievements at E.H. Harriman
Awards
2009 Was Safest Year On Record for Railroads and their Employees

WASHINGTON, D.C., May 18, 2010 – America’s railroads today honored the
industry’s safety achievements and celebrated railroads with the best
employee safety records at the annual E.H. Harriman Awards. According
to the Association of American Railroads (AAR), 2009 was the safest
year ever for railroads, with significant milestones achieved across
the board in reduced train accidents, employee casualties and grade
crossing collisions.
Harriman Awards 2010
FRA Associate Administrator for Railroad Safety and Chief Safety
Officer Jo Strang presents the 2009 E.H. Harriman Award to Norfolk
Southern CEO Wick Moorman. This is the 21st year in a row that Norfolk
Southern has won top safety honors among the nation’s major railroads.
The awards are selected by a committee on the basis of the lowest
casualty rates per 200,000 employee-hours worked.
Harriman Awards 2010
The nation’s railroads honored the industry’s safety achievements and
celebrated the railroads with the best employee safety records May 18,
at the annual E.H. Harriman Awards in Washington, D.C. These Norfolk
Southern employees represent the railroad’s 28,000 employees who earned
the 2009 gold medal for safety. 2009 was the safest year ever for
railroads, according to the AAR.
Harriman Awards 2010
Norfolk Southern CEO Wick Moorman, left, displays Norfolk Southern’s
21st consecutive E.H. Harriman Gold Medal award for employee safety.
John Sobotka, a locomotive engineer from Dover, N.J., and Norfolk
Southern&#65533;s Harold F. Hammond Award nominee, displays his
commendation for safety leadership at his worksite and in his
community.


Compared with 2008, train accidents and accident rates were down 25
percent and 12 percent respectively in 2009. Employee casualties and
casualty rates were down 12 and 2 percent respectively last year
compared with 2008, while grade crossing collisions and collision rates
were down 21 percent and 9 percent respectively.

“It is the tremendous dedication and hard work of our employees that
makes rail the safest mode of transportation today,” said AAR President
and CEO Edward R. Hamberger. “Our industry continuously invests,
innovates, improves and implements systems and technology that make our
business ever safer.”

The 2009 E.H. Harriman Awards winners are as follows:

    * In Group A, comprising line-haul railroads whose employees worked
15 million employee-hours or more, Norfolk Southern received the gold
award for the 21st year in a row. CSX Transportation won the silver
award and Union Pacific Railroad the bronze award.
    * In Group B, line-haul railroads whose employees worked 4 to 15
million employee-hours, the gold award went to Kansas City Southern
Railway for the fourth year in a row. The silver award went to Metra,
the Chicago commuter railroad, while the bronze went to Canadian
National (U.S. Operations).
    * Group C includes railroads whose employees worked between 250,000
and 4 million employee-hours. The gold award went to the Buffalo and
Pittsburgh Railroad, while the BNSF Suburban Operations took the silver
and the Paducah and Louisville Railway the bronze.
    * In Group S&T, for switching and terminal companies with more than
250,000 employee hours, the Indiana Harbor Belt Railroad took the gold,
while the silver award went to Gary Railway and the Birmingham Southern
Railroad received the bronze award.

Certificates of Commendation also were awarded to four railroads with
continuous gains in employee safety improvements over a three-year
period and showing the most improvement between 2008 and 2009.
Certificates went to Union Pacific Railroad (Group A), Metra (Group B),
BNSF Suburban Operations (Group C) and the New Orleans Public Belt
Railroad (S&T).

The Harriman Awards were established by the late Mrs. Mary W. Harriman
in memory of her husband, Edward H. Harriman, an American legend in
railroading. Today, the awards are administered by the E.H. Harriman
Memorial Awards Institute, with support from the Mary W. Harriman
Foundation. Harriman winners are selected by a committee of
representatives from the transportation field and are granted on the
basis of the lowest casualty rates per 200,000 employee-hours worked.
All data is documented by the Federal Railroad Administration.

Contact:
Holly Arthur, harthur@aar.org | 202-639-2344  |  www.aar.org



http://nscorp.com/nscportal/nscorp/Media/News%20Releases/2010/harriman.html

Name: screw csx
E-mail: screwcsx@gofockyourself.com
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 31 May 2010

just wanted to say Happy Memorial Day to all Union brothers and sisters.
 As far as CSX goes, YEP, YOU STILL SUCK!!!  Enjoy and happy drinking!!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 31 May 2010

VIERLING----
Surely there are none of the Evansville Vierling family still hanging
around the RR. jack had a nickname as everyone did. naw ain't gonna
post that!!!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Yard Master, for 20-30 years
Posted: 31 May 2010

Angie Smith vs. CSX case goes to court in Danville 0900 Tuesday June
1st. Anyone in the area may want to see this show. Come to the court
house and see all your favorite Characters....Frulla, Vierling,
Fleenor, Wes Knick, Randy Hall, Terry Schray and last but not least a
special guest appearance by no other than Gery Williams. Guaranteed to
have more dirt and scandal out in public than an Jerry Springer
episode.

Name: 
E-mail: eejmama
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 10-20 years
Posted: 28 May 2010

Was downsized in 2004 at age 48. While I was at CSX I was subjected to
many slanders of a personal and professional nature that many less
conscientious male employees were not treated in the same way. I
endured countless derisions on my professional opinions by unqualified
mechanical officers who in no way were educated to make. However, I
survived until 2004- a total of 13+ years. Now working in an atmosphere
where I am appreciated and not second guessed by surly, arrogant men.
eejmama

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 May 2010

It's not a trial it's an investigation. Local management are goffers
nothing more. Crap runs downhill thru the system our job is to make
sure it stops at local management but I continue to hear stupid
mistakes being made by T&E. Most were avoidable. When are people going
to stop check, recheck, then check again to avoid all the BS. Like run
thru switches if you lose sight of it while switching it needs to be
checked to make sure someone hadn't changed it. What is to prevent a
TM from changing it? That would be considered a effeciency test. Of
course the TM would be derilect in his duties to allow someone to
actually run thru it. But I've seen management do just that watch
someone violate a rule and they allowed it just so they could nail that
person. No easy answers.

Name: kyle
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 27 May 2010

A TM can not fire anyone,All he can do is take a person OOS and hold a
trial & same for a RFE, The trial transcritp is sent to the super or
the GM & they are the ones who make the final outcome on what disipline
action should be taken, But then all of them do sleep in the same bed
most of the time, At least this is what my LC told me and don,t forget
a TM or RFE are at the bottom of the mangement totem pole but as we all
know many of them think they are gods on the rr, IE the suck asses.

Name: Binheer2long
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 26 May 2010

Let me be the first to welcome this site back to good health.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Car repair, for 10-20 years
Posted: 18 May 2010

Carman in Selkirk NY,I am hearing that the FRA is camped out in Waycross
GA. What is going on, Is Matt Carson still employed?

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 18 May 2010

There's a trainmaster in Newport News called Kangaroo Jack who had a
state required breathalizer in his personal vehicles for multiple
DUI's. All anyone had to do was turn him in to the state when he was
driving a CSX vehicle on CSX property which was illegal. CSX likes to
spout ethics. At times in his personal vehicle he'ld be yelling at a
crew when his alarm would go off for him to blow in the machine he
would haul arse to not let it go off. His first name was Warren I
can't remember his last name because he was insignificant more of a
joke then anything else. He never stopped drinking he would take taxis
to hit the bars we would see him drinking at Hooter's ect...around the
hotel in Hampton which was still illegal under the state run program.

Name: MadMan
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 30+ years
Posted: 16 May 2010

Nomo, I agree 100% with you! The railroad as we know or should I say
knew it is DEAD! These College kids are Morons who aren't even
Qualified to run a HO trainset let alone a real railroad! Even half of
the clowns who are promoted were nothing but Suck Asses before they
moved up! It is Rare to find a person who earned a Promotion on their
own! This is a Kiddie Hop Corporation! 

The same goes on at Amtrak also were all these Fired Flunkies show up
when Discharged from a Carrier! I must say it Truely Sucks here but I
also Feel for the Employees at Amtrak too who have to deal with our
trash! I had a friend who has been recently Terminated there he had 20+
years Service and was Charged with Work Place Violence! I read the Trial
Transcipts and it was Bull Shit! The Accuser said he wanted the Charges
Dropped to the Amtrak Police and to Management. He stated he was
Stressed and Over Reacted but in the long run my friend received the
Shit End of the Stick. There were many contridictions in the Accusers
statements written and at Trial! I told him to Sue the Shit out of
Amtrak for Wrongful Termination, Slander, Harassment and
Discrimination! Fuck a Zero Tolerence Policy they are a waste as the
paper it's printed on! I haven't seen 1 Credible Statement in it!
This is typical CSX Bull Shit that we deal with! I say FUCK CSX
Managers as well as the Losers from here went to Amtrak or any other
Carrier.

This should be a wake up call since we can end up with a Terminated
Amtrak Flunkie who's running a Terminal or Division and end up in the
same shit as my Friend!

Name: Drinky the drunk guy
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 16 May 2010

Sounds like you have an alcoholic trainmaster in Danville WV.  In new
orleans they just had a trainmaster fail a breath test.  He had just
got out of rehab for drinking on the job and Angie Averitte was in NOLA
for a couple of days and tipped him off that the nurse was there to test
him.  He just did not come into work.  The next day they were back and
he showed up and the idiot failed the test.  This trainmaster, Joe
Rider also fired more people than anybody there....and he was caught
drinking on the job.  Think about that for a minute.  That whole
terminals officals are the biggest bunch of drunks on the railroad. 
Angie was over saftery for the Atl Division and could not even drive to
work because she had so many DUI's.

Name: worker
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 15 May 2010

worlking for CSX is like working for the NAZI's!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Yard Master, for 20-30 years
Posted: 15 May 2010

Danville, WV- We are not a very big terimanl.  We usually have one
trainsmaster on duty most of the time.  Then we have a trainmaster on
call.  When that trainmaster on call has to come to work for some
reason.  He doesn't show up druck, but he definetley been drinking. 
What do you do when this happens.  They need to random drug test on
their trainmaster who show up to work that have been drinking.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 15 May 2010

Hey RRJ:

If I can add one more thing...back in those days most of the management
came up through the ranks and knew the ins and outs. 

Today, they're fresh out of college and a couple of months of CSX
management training school and have no idea of what goes on and are
expected to be effective leaders. As time goes by, their lack of hands
on experience compounds the further up the ladder they go.

The railroad, drilling, mining and heavy construction industries all
need managers with hands on experience...not a bunch of college boys
who never got their hands dirty.

Name: Switchman
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 15 May 2010

L & N Trainman....thats exactly what I was told.  I'm packing my bags
for Wauhatchie Yard in Chattanooga...MP J146.

Honestly, I'm looking forward to getting away from Radnor Yard in
Nashville.

I'm lucky, my sister lives there, so I have a place to stay.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 15 May 2010

It's a real simple explanation. Those in transportation T&E, MOW,
clerks ect...are considered contract union employees we expect no pats
on the back for a job well done but we do expect all hell to bust loose
if things screw up. If anyone thinks management is out to be your friend
their in for a rude awakening. They have their job to do we have ours.
That's the way it's always been. Years ago things were different a
trainmaster was more in tune with those working in their assigned
territory. Most trainmasters back then knew every persons name they
knew if they had a family ect...not so today. Last year when I went in
for the manditory class they started a few years ago (I forget what
it's called) I met the trainmaster on the subdivision I was working
for the first time and he'd been there for two years. That says a lot
for management today that there out of touch. I look at it this way if
I don't see them and they don't see me I was doing my job. The only
"thank you" you'll possibley ever get from management is if higher
ups threatened to fire them for their incompetence and you saved their
jobs. I've seen that quite a few times where industries didn't get
their cars then called JAX which in turn called the TM chewing their
arse out because those TM's cut out OT so to save their jobs they did
whatever it took. The only gratification you can expect is to go home
safely.

Name: Tank
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 14 May 2010

only been back for less than month after this wonderful company
furloughed me before i could complete training.  Anyways meet all the
train master at my yard the when i got back and all of them said unlike
what the old heads think we are not here to fire you we just want to
make sure your safe.  They went on about how they don't want to do all
the paper work involved in firing someone.  I believed what they said
for about a week.  That is when a job in my yard had a derailment
because two empty flat cars bunched up and derailed.  The same young
train master who told me we was here for us and not here to fire anyone
was so, so, so excited saying " i finally got me one, i have been
looking to fire someone"  These were the exact words from his mouth. 
Never have i seen someone so excited to put a working man on the street
without a care.  What was funny is the investigation proved the crew was
not at fault which made this train master looking even more like a
asshole.  
    If any traim master out there read this, don't fill young guys
like me heads full of shit about how you don't won't fire us. 
Because we all know yall are full of pure shit.

Name: L & N Trainman
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 14 May 2010

have been hearing around my yard that since the L&N voted the new
agreement down and i do mean really voted it down that CSX is trying to
take jobs away from Nashville, Birmingham, and Louisville and give them
to Chattanoga (can't spell it) as some sort of punishment for the NO
vote.  Anyone else heard of this and if so what is going on?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 13 May 2010

Name: jsmith
E-mail: 
Employed as: Engine repair, for 1-10 years
Posted: 13 May 2010

These contracts get passed because the Union is in bed with the RR, I
wish we could get rid of these Unions and start are own. We would be
better off being represented by our own people and just hope they dont
get greedy and get bought by the RR.

On another note, Please check your wheels on your locomotives before
departing. I work at a engine house and know through other people that
wheel reports have been doctored, meaning changed to look like they
are
good just so they can outshop the unit. If you dont know how to gage
wheels go on the Domino site on the gateway and read the Safe Job
procedure or SMR and I am sure you can get a wheel gage from someone
at
a shop. If you wanna stick it to CSX look at your wheels on every unit
in the consist. I have changed all the traction motors on unit because
it derailed. That unit had no buisness being on the rail. I wish I had
thought to write down the unit number but I didnt. Please check your
wheels, supervisors will run units with bad wheels. I found some bad
wheels oneday and the supervisor wouldnt have them cut and said the
unit didnt come in the shop for that so we are not cutting them or
replacing them. I had a supervisor want me to read a wheel with a hand
gage because the electronic gage said it was out of spec. He was
trying
to get me to say the wheel was okay and I wouldnt do it. On another
ocassion I was told to go and qualify some bolster pads and if I didnt
pass them he was. Needless to say I didnt qualify them and they dont
ask me to do much anymore because they know I wont sign it off to go
back on the road unless its right. Alot of the othe rmachinist will do
things for them such as sign off on stuff that aint fixed or hasnt
been
fixed. I have thought about going to the News and newspaper and squeal
like a pig on there safety practices, things that I have seen and seen
done by others.

Its hard to stop this kind of thing and get someone important to take
notice and do something about it. All this lobbying by CSX is one
problem, who is gonna step on there toes when there pockets are
getting
padded.


Hey Jsmith, same thing is happening in our location, we have been
getting some shitty locomotives straight out of the shop with bad
wheels, some where so bad it was no wonder a derailment did not occur.
I've heard the same stories from men who work in shops and said that
documents and rerairs are doctored half azz so they can get the
locomtives in and out fast.

Name: me,me,me
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 13 May 2010

i was at the redi center taking the refresher course and i came off the
ladder.... and i have to go back in 28 days to do this again does
anyone have any advice to help me to train and to pass this once
more??? thanks in advance to all that helped

Name: LMAO!
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 13 May 2010

Thanks for the link to Marcus Calhoun McCants facebook page.  NOMO son
is friends with him!   LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Name: Dave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 13 May 2010

RE; RRJ NOMO

Local and state police have no jurisdiction to investigate this
accident since it happened on railroad property.
The FRA has both jurisdiction and enforcement power.  Consider this:
Will the FRA perform a truthful investigation when it has been assigned
the distribution of BILIONS of dollars to railroads for High Speed Rail?
 Conflict of interest?
They found a cell phone?  This is a game of planting a seed in peoples
heads.  They found a cell phone which people automatically translate as
being the cause of this death.  I'm reconstructing a crossing accident
in which the news paper printed "He was driving a motorcycle and
celebrating his birth day" Translation?  He was out drunk.
They leave out the "he wasn't drinking" or in this case "she
wasn't using a cell phone.

Name: jsmith
E-mail: 
Employed as: Engine repair, for 1-10 years
Posted: 13 May 2010

These contracts get passed because the Union is in bed with the RR, I
wish we could get rid of these Unions and start are own. We would be
better off being represented by our own people and just hope they dont
get greedy and get bought by the RR.

On another note, Please check your wheels on your locomotives before
departing. I work at a engine house and know through other people that
wheel reports have been doctored, meaning changed to look like they are
good just so they can outshop the unit. If you dont know how to gage
wheels go on the Domino site on the gateway and read the Safe Job
procedure or SMR and I am sure you can get a wheel gage from someone at
a shop. If you wanna stick it to CSX look at your wheels on every unit
in the consist. I have changed all the traction motors on unit because
it derailed. That unit had no buisness being on the rail. I wish I had
thought to write down the unit number but I didnt. Please check your
wheels, supervisors will run units with bad wheels. I found some bad
wheels oneday and the supervisor wouldnt have them cut and said the
unit didnt come in the shop for that so we are not cutting them or
replacing them. I had a supervisor want me to read a wheel with a hand
gage because the electronic gage said it was out of spec. He was trying
to get me to say the wheel was okay and I wouldnt do it. On another
ocassion I was told to go and qualify some bolster pads and if I didnt
pass them he was. Needless to say I didnt qualify them and they dont
ask me to do much anymore because they know I wont sign it off to go
back on the road unless its right. Alot of the othe rmachinist will do
things for them such as sign off on stuff that aint fixed or hasnt been
fixed. I have thought about going to the News and newspaper and squeal
like a pig on there safety practices, things that I have seen and seen
done by others.

Its hard to stop this kind of thing and get someone important to take
notice and do something about it. All this lobbying by CSX is one
problem, who is gonna step on there toes when there pockets are getting
padded.

Name: bartender
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years
Posted: 13 May 2010

On the Huntington division it is acceptable for management to drink as
much as they want whenever they want. I think they even get more of a
bonus if they have a DUI especially if they got it at a csx meeting.
Several of the road foremen have DUI's and havent lost their jobs.
Robert Brown has established common practice to be on the property
drunk or paased out in the supposed leadership meeting.
The chiefs and dispatchers are also notorious for being at work gooned
up....well known fact and laughing matter for management. Danville has
the best moonshine though!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 12 May 2010

Trainmaster don't mark off they just go home. If this TM showed up to
work intoxicated then someone should of reported him to the division HQ
or JAX. Call another TM or the Road Foreman of Engines from that
location if you want to keep it local. They are suppose to be an
example. If they caught someone intoxicated it would of been a rule G
violation. Operation Redblock can only be used before an official
becomes aware of the situation. I don't think it pertains to
management.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 11 May 2010

Danville WV,  How do you or can you mark a trainmaster off operation
redblock!!!!?????

Name: chicago carman
E-mail:  RailroadWorkersUnited@googleg
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 11 May 2010

I'm a carman with 18 yrs on 3 roads-These conditions are universal in
the industry.
Those of us in other crafts and carriers are with you.
http://railroadworkersunited.org/campaign-ban-one-person-crews-and-regulate-locomotive-remote-control

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 11 May 2010

NoMo

I'm sure the FRA, STB, and NTSB can get the records seeing it is a
federal law Emergency Order #26. My point is CSX went beyond EO#26 that
having a cell phone in your possesion even turned off is a rules
violation. I know the unions have adamently warned their members not to
carry a cellphone to turn them off and store them in your grip or in
your vehicle. CSX can enforce anything they want by tacking on new
rules. Look at alcohol testing the FRA mandate for a non-positive is a
max BAC .04 just like airline pilots, ship captains, and truck drivers.
CSX came along and made it zero tolerance. Most people have failed with
a BAC less than .03 which is under the FRA limits but CSX doesn't
accept it. Once a railroad makes a rule the FRA is required to enforce
them even if those retrictions go beyond the requirements the FRA set.
CSX is looking at every angle which was expected. Ms Carter was on the
CSX Safety Committee if anyone should know about EO#26 it should of
been her. I think everyone on here knows CSX will do everything not to
admit blame. Their just grasping at straws.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 11 May 2010

Hey RRJ:

A cell phone was found...how convenient. I'm sure CSX would love to
check her records but I think there has to be a subpoena issued before
they can do it; in order for a subpoena to be issued there has to be
complaint filed. 

The police can get a subpoena in connection with a criminal
investigation. I would also think the CSX police would have to show
cause before they would be issued a subpoena as would the FRA.

If, in fact she was using a cell phone, there must have been a camera
that she was worried about...if that's the case, CSX has the whole
incident on tape and there should be no question about what happened.
Knowing that, why wouldn't she sit on the engine out of view of the
camera?

Talk about loose ends!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 11 May 2010

The info being put out about the RCO fatality CSX is trying to pin it on
cell phone use. I talked to the LC saturday and that's what he was told
by the GC all they heard was a cell phone was found. No indication
whether it had been used. People need to keep their cell phones in
their grips or in their cars while on duty having them in your
possesion is a CSX rules violation. CSX is looking at every angle. I'm
sure cell phone records have or will be checked.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 10 May 2010

As to the info to rco accident...It was still daylite when accident
happened..Why would any-one report "seeing lantern"??? Sounds like
miss information again...whats new bout that???

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 10 May 2010

Hey Con 1-10:

Thanks for the info...sounds like CSX will use the old human error
defence, as usual. My question is, why would an experienced yard
foreman and RCO trainer do that?

With regard to PTI...their drivers suffer from fatigue just like 
T&E. Their equipment suffers from poor maintenance just like CSX's and
their management instructs them to use equipment that needs repairing to
be safe just as CSX's does to T&E. It's up to the conductor to inspect
the van every time prior to the start of the trip. He can reject it if
he feels it unsafe and make them them provide one that meets CSX's
safety standards.  If the Trainmaster overrules them, the information
should be logged for the crews protection.

It's up to who ever sits in the right front seat to monitor the driver
and the speed of the van. I got called for a DH to NO. PTI arrived right
on time with a van that was perfect except for a crack in the lower
right side of the windshield about 6" long. I did the walk around and
told the TM who also made an inspection. We decided it would be alright
to take but the TM told the driver the next time he saw the van it had
better have a new windshield or the van would be put OOS. The following
night we got back and the same van was there waiting on two more crews.
As I was putting off I saw the TM and told him the same van was out
front. After I finished I walked out to my car and the TM had taken the
van OOS. I later found out that he made PTI call a wrecker to remove the
van.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 10 May 2010

April 5, 2010

US Department of Transportation 

Federal Motor Carriers Safety Administration
3250 Executive Park Drive
Springfield, IL 62703-4514 

        RE:  Safety complaint(s) about motor carrier. 

        Professional Transportation Incorporated (DOT #807948)
        3700 Morgan Avenue
        Evansville, Indiana 47715
        1 (800) 471-2440
        

Division Administrator, 
	
        Please accept this letter as a formal complaint against the
above named business.  Also be advised that little has changed during
the period in which an earlier complaint was filed (see attached) and
the present day.  The only noticeable difference is that the owner and
other leaders for Professional Transportation Incorporated have been
exercising an increased level of unsafe practices.  Once again I am
urging you to please take immediate action to bring this carrier into
complete compliance with all state and federal laws and to investigate
or examine their vehicle maintenance records with a greater degree of
scrutiny.  This motor carrier must be held accountable for their
blatant disregard for vehicle safety and for jeopardizing the health
and welfare of others.  Professional Transportation Inc. or “PTI” has a
long history of not maintaining their equipment. They have become
incredibly adept at circumventing the laws which are designed to
promote safety on our highways and roads.  

The images on the following page are only a small sample of the type of
actions or practices that PTI has engaged in recent months.  They
include: operating vehicles without the required state safety
inspections, ignoring repeated driver complaints and inspection forms,
intimidation of drivers who report vehicle defects or safety hazards,
allowing vehicles to be operated with expired stickers and or tags,
tampering with vehicle inspection stickers by removing them from the
vehicles they were placed on and re-affixing these stickers to vans
that were not properly inspected.  But rather than repeat what has
already been said, I will simply ask you to review the letter sent to
Jessie B. Harris on November 6, 2007  (DOT traffic safety division). 
As stated before, I am willing to meet with your field agents at any
time and can also arrange for a private meeting with PTI drivers who
say that they are afraid to openly discuss the above matter for fear of
retaliation by their employer. 

Respectfully,
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

A.	Van involved in serious accident but not reported.  PTI often
withholds such info.
Example:  A PTI van was transporting Norfolk Southern employees xxxxx
and xxxxx when the driver lost control and crashed his vehicle at the
Landers Yard entrance.  This accident was such that a commuter
passenger railroad (Metra) had their service interrupted because the
crash happened close to the tracks.  An injury was sustained by one of
the passengers but this incident was kept quiet by Norfolk Southern
Corp. and PTI.  

B.	Van inspected by railroad police after multiple complaints of an
unsafe vehicle.
Example: (see attached police report, 209-020102) PTI driver Sercy
Henderson was instructed to operate a vehicle with a badly cracked
windshield. When her vehicle was finally removed from service, she told
the officer that a branch manager instructed her to drive the van
because there were none others available.   Ms. Henderson also tried to
fill out a vehicle inspection form during this traffic stop and present
it to the officer as if it was completed prior to the stop. 

C, D, E.  Vans operated without required vehicle safety inspections. 

F, G.  Vans operated with expired safety insp. stickers.  When
reported, drivers told to drive vehicle or “go home.”   

H, I, J, K, L, M.  Vans operated with multiple dashboard indicators
illuminated.  These vehicle warning lights are ignored by management
and in many cases the drivers are told not to worry about them because
the lights are caused by an electrical malfunction and that these
lights are not an important element of safety.

N, O, P, Q R, S, T.   PTI has been tampering with vehicle safety
stickers regularly. 

(sorry, pics not downloadable)

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 10 May 2010

Moore v. CSX Transportation, Inc. et al
Plaintiff: Bradley Moore 
Defendants: CSX Transportation, Inc. and Professional Transportation,
Inc. 
Cross Claimant: CSX Transportation, Inc. 
Cross Defendant: Professional Transportation, Inc. 
  
Case Number: 3:2009cv00329 
Filed: July 23, 2009 
  
Court: Indiana Northern District Court 
Office: South Bend Office [ Court Info ] 
County: XX US, Outside State 
Presiding Judge: Senior Judge James T Moody 
Referring Judge: Magistrate Judge Christopher A Nuechterlein 
  
Nature of Suit: Torts - Injury - Federal Employers Liability 
Cause: 45:51 Railways: Fed. Employer's Liability Act 
Jurisdiction: Federal Question 
Jury Demanded By: Plaintiff

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 10 May 2010

Poplin et al v. CSX Transportation Inc. et al
Plaintiffs: Andrew Poplin and Deborah Poplin 
Defendants: CSX Transportation Inc., Professional Transportation, Inc.,
Brian Nicolas Haney and Kevin Randell Lynn 
  
Case Number: 1:2009cv00117 
Filed: January 15, 2009 
  
Court: Georgia Northern District Court 
Office: Atlanta Office [ Court Info ] 
County: XX US, Outside State 
Presiding Judge: Tidwell 
  
Nature of Suit: Torts - Injury - Motor Vehicle 
Cause: 45:51 Railways: Fed. Employer's Liability Act 
Jurisdiction: Federal Question 
Jury Demanded By: Plaintiff

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 10 May 2010

ROBERTS v. CSX TRANSPORTATION INC et al
Plaintiff: KEVIN ROBERTS 
Defendants: CSX TRANSPORTATION INC and PROFESSIONAL TRANSPORTATION INC

  
Case Number: 1:2009cv00162 
Filed: February 13, 2009 
  
Court: Indiana Southern District Court 
Office: Federal Employer's Liability Office [ Court Info ] 
County: XX US, Outside State 
Presiding Judge: Judge Larry J. McKinney 
Referring Judge: Magistrate Judge Tim A. Baker 
  
Nature of Suit: Torts - Injury - Federal Employers Liability 
Cause: Federal Question 
Jurisdiction: Federal Question 
Jury Demanded By: 45:51 Railways: Fed. Employer's Liability Act

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 10 May 2010

Railroad Conductor Neck Injury and Surgery from a Motor Vehicle
Accident
COURT/DATE: Jacksonville, FL (Duval County State Court)/October 2005
HSCL STAFF: Richard N. Shapiro, attorney; Donald Case, Charles
Cunningham, investigators; Jackie Tilton, paralegal; Blair Gray, legal
assistant WHAT HAPPENED: R.D. was a conductor with over twenty years of
experience who was being transported in a taxi operated by Defendant PTI
(Professional Transportation, Inc.) when he was injured when the van
crashed during March 2004. R.D. was seated in the third van row behind
the driver and was sleeping. The PTI van operator fell asleep at the
wheel, and the van smashed into the trailer portion of a vehicle being
operated by a truck. The van went off the road as did the truck and
both suffered substantial damages. R.D. was transported from the scene
by rescue squad. Medical testing revealed that R.D. had a fracture of
his neck which required delicate cervical/neck surgery. After
considerable rehabilitation, R.D. underwent functional capacity testing
which indicted he could function at light to medium physical work
levels, which medically disqualified him from his job duties with CSX
railroad. R.D. was earning just over $50,000 per year annual wages.
Given that R.D. was 50 years old, he was not able to find a new job but
instead entered the local community college to try to re-train. HSCL
STRATEGY: Counsel carefully reviewed the federal motor carrier safety
regulations relating to the operation of this passenger van operated by
PTI. It appeared that there were multiple federal regulatory violations
because the van driver was called in for a second shift after working
all night. It appears that the driver, and the company, violated
multiple federal regulations by requiring excessive hours of operation
from the driver. Also, if this was a knowing violation of federal
regulations, Florida law may have allowed plaintiff to amend his
complaint and assert punitive damages. The attorney representing PTI
and the railroad argued that R.D. must not have been wearing his
seatbelt although R.D. claimed he was. There was no clear evidence that
R.D. failed to wear his seatbelt. HSCL agreed to early mediation of the
case after filing suit, and threatened to assert punitive damages if
the case could not be resolved voluntarily. However, during October
2005, the case was settled with mediator Michael Burnett, with all the
financial details of the settlement being confidential.
Awarded: Confidential Settlement Satisfactory to Client.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 10 May 2010

The briefing TM gave us said crew had been working together for several
years.  According to the secondary operator, the primary was going to
ride engine up to a switch, dismount & pitch to secondary.  Secondary
thought he saw lantern away from engine, after accepting silent pitch,
and reversed engine.  For whatever reason, primary was foul of track,
behind engine.  Engine stopped when OCU comm loss triggered brakes. 
Tilt feature didn't activate due to OCU destroyed.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 10 May 2010

Hello Barr Yard...come in:

It has been 2+ weeks since the tragedy. Has CSX made a preliminary
report or even offered a possible reason?

I haven't read anything on here in a couple of weeks and I don't
want
it to fade away like so many other issues do. Unless this tragedy stays
front and center, CSX the FRA and the UTU will slow play it into
oblivion.

Do Ms. Carter and Jared Boehlke and their families a favor and keep the
pressure on!

Name: Danny Lash
E-mail: Tobykieth@yahoo.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 May 2010

Baltimore terminal sucks ass!!!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 May 2010

Question:

An earlier post states that CSX management reads the posts on this site
every day, and that many employees are afraid to post on here for fear
of loosing their jobs. 

My question is, if CSX reads all the posts on here, why do they keep
killing off employees with the RCO devices?  Can't they take a hint?

Secondly,  is CSX management so paranoid and fearful of its employees
that it has to find out the precise identity of who says what on here?
Isn't that a bit over the top - kinda like the Nazis jew hunters under
Hitler. If they catch an employee posting on here, do they send out the
secret RR hit squad police and summarily execute said company traitor?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 07 May 2010

You come on here to find out when you get paid next?  Surely, there are
other avenues....you guys make yourselves look bad.

Name: me
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 06 May 2010

when does the montgomery a.w.p get paid next? and do they paid every
week or every two weeks? getting transferd there and would like to know
so i can see when and how to pay my bills ....thanks in advance....and
what is the conductor gurantee pay ??

Name: Dave Nelson
E-mail: nelson284@juno.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 06 May 2010

RE: Average Joe

Yes CSX pays travel expenses for signalmen working on internal projects
(called AFE) and government or Outside Pary projects called (OP
Projects).

Left my E adress for other questions amd as to why you want to know.

Name: average joe
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 05 May 2010

hey guys i know this is a little off key and dont know where to ask this
so ill post it here.

does csx pay per diem for signal workers on the road and if so how much
i know they provide the rooms but is that all they fork over just curous
now you guys have a safe day.

Name: General Lee
E-mail: 
Employed as: CSX Customer, for N/A
Posted: 05 May 2010

Hey APE

CSX is a Dysfunctional Railroad and belongs on Jerry Springer.  Get use
to it.  Do you realize all the weird and corrupt stuff that goes on here
that never shows up on here because so few people can risk posting on
here for fear of losing their job.

CSX Management read this daily and use it to management and cover up
anything coming out of this sewer pipe.  

Keep hiring relatives who are not qualified to do the job and keep
getting meager results.    SAFETY is just a Adjective.

Keep complaining.     Just list names and facts on here.  Then watch
them slowly fall like previous Trainmasters mentioned on here
recently.

State the FACTS    5th Best Class 1 Railroad 

We all look forward to the next CSX Scandal or Unethical Story.

General Lee

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for N/A
Posted: 04 May 2010

I fully agree with the previous post that states rambles and rants about
having sex w/trainmasters wives or various curses about this n' that
just make observers from outside think most CSX employees are
escapee's from the Jerry Springer show who need the strong, firm, well
disciplined hand of our trainmasters to keep them whipped into shape.We
know most CSX employees operate more efficiently - as well as safely -
without constant oversupervision. Investors, public officials, media,
etc. are the people we need to convince, not alienate. Making a strong
business case for improvement is the way to convince our STAKEHOLDERS.
And I am not sure that higher management in JAX, especially those from
a non RR background, really know the actual RR culture and operating
environment, so they permit the many poor quality local supervision to
indulge their whims and bad attitudes without restraint, even though
these performances are directly contradictory to the propaganda JAX
send out about ethics, family friendly, diversity, teamwork, etc.It
makes the RR seem like the Soviet Union, where peace loving KGB
officers were building the workers paradise - as constant and accurate
a story as safety loving CSX officers building ethics!

Name: CSX Blow
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 03 May 2010

To my fellow co-workers,

 When I read through all these posts it seems that every other word you
people are cussing about something. I too love to cuss and I do it
offten. But lets think about something. How professional does that make
you look? In my book it makes you look like a retard because your
vocabulary is limited so much that you can't use other words to
replace the cussing. Thank you for those of you who do not come on here
and blast away!

 JSmith: BTW buddy, someone may have commented on your posting if you
would not have came in here and posted under every section. You will be
heard even if you only post it under the appropriate category. For
future refrence, people who do that rarely get a reply because it ticks
most people off.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 03 May 2010

Does anyone know if this McCant guy or whoever he is, has sex with his
rule book?  This man was a real piece of work and needs to get a life
instead of pointing out the most minor of things wrong.  I see now that
management only points out what is wrong instead of pats on the back. 
Good greif this asshole is a real piece of shit

Name: Be happy in your work
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years
Posted: 03 May 2010

Did you know that=== Todd Novak ===is planing to come back to work , at
collinwood yard . this skum bag was the BLE treasurer in cleveland ,and
was convited for stealing money from his brothers and union people . He
stated all he was doing was using for a while and planed to pay it back
. sounds like every other embeleser , i would like to see what union
local is going to take him back ?????   do not let ====Todd Novak===
back !!!!!!!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 03 May 2010

We all have the option of viewing all 14800+ articles under Safety
on one big page as we do the rest of the topics. 

On occasion I do and it is surprising how little anything really
changes. One of the first posts under this topic was from a engineer
from Cincinnati discussing how unsafe the RCOs are. Today we find
ourselves discussing an event that cost a young woman her life rather
than a sideswipe or split switch.

It becomes apparent that the employees, Unions, CSX, stockholder, FRA
and our elected officials are not using this site or more specifically
this topic as a vehicle for change. This site dates back to early '03
and 7 years later the same things are occurring...why? Until that
question is answered, nothing will change.

On a lighter note, we had some real characatures back then!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 02 May 2010

Will things change on CSX because of tragic incidents like this? No, not
looking at fault on their part.

Name: Mad Man
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 30+ years
Posted: 02 May 2010

Once again Tragedy Strikes! But will it be a sign of changes to come? I
doubt it it will change a damn thing! Management has their heads shoved
way up in their asses that they don't know the difference between day
and night! Any employee is just a number to this FUCKED Company! A Loss
of one's Life is just part of doing Business anymore!  Forget the
families that are left behind each yime that we all go to work without
knowing our dimise that we look forward to during our Tour of Duties!

Only if the General Public really knows what goes on behind the scenes
daily that not only affects us but the General Public that these trains
run by! Unsafe equipment and rolling stock that can jeopordize health
issues if there was a derailment. The FRA in my eyes are a bunch of
Assholes who don't know their ass's from a hole in the ground! And
that is sad!!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years
Posted: 01 May 2010

The bad thing about CSX managers, is they mess with the good workers,
and not enough with the losers that work out here. Twisted management
thinking.

Name: i hate csx
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 01 May 2010

We wil miss you melinda, rest in peace. I want to say melinda was the
kindest, sweetest human being i ever encontoured, i remember when
melinda was my trainee. She was a very hardworker, believe me she was
no novice, she could put alot of guys to shame switching. I still cant
believe this tragedy has taken place, i dont think i slept for two days
and i still think about her everyday, everybody should stop the
speculation and think that we all lost a sweet and kind sister! We all
know how unsafe the rco are and until the fra or ntsb can actually
stand up against these cost cutting, ruthless carriers we dont stand a
chance, because our unions and own brothers and sisters dont care, it
just sucks that this had to happen to melinda, i only hope that
something good comes from this tragedy. Im glad i quit csx a few weeks
ago, because i honestly dont think i couldve not hauled off and hit a
manager. These scumbags let the crews who put out over 200 cars do
whatever, at any risk to get those numbers and harassed and intimidated
those employees who followed the rules and didnt have alot of production
during their shift! Shame on you B&OCT management i hope your happy!
Melinda we all love you! Maybe one day we will see you again!

Name: Nazi Hunter
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 30+ years
Posted: 01 May 2010

Very interesting article that might change Nazi Safety Programs 


April 29, 2010
Massey offering each family $3M, miner's daughter says
The daughter of one of 29 men killed in a West Virginia coal mine
explosion says owner Massey Energy is offering each family a $3 million
settlement.
By The Associated Press
Advertiser

CHARLESTON, W.Va. -- Massey Energy is offering $3 million to each of
the families of 29 men killed in an explosion at its Upper Big Branch
coal mine in West Virginia, the daughter of one of the victims said
Thursday.

The offer came a week earlier when Massey officials visited the family,
said Michelle McKinney, daughter of Benny Ray Willingham. McKinney said
other families have received the same offer.

Massey did not immediately respond to calls seeking comment.

The widow of William Griffith has already filed a wrongful death
lawsuit, while the mother of Adam Morgan has won a court order
preserving relevant records and potential evidence from the disaster.
The April 5 explosion -- the nation's worst coal mining disaster in 40
years -- also has prompted legal action by several current and former
shareholders.

McKinney isn't interested in settling.

"Nope,'' she said. "My dad didn't have a price tag on him. Don
Blankenship don't have enough money to pay me.''

Massey CEO Blankenship is among the highest paid executives in the coal
industry. McKinney said she would like to take every penny he has.

"Maybe it'll save somebody else's life,'' she said.

On Monday, Richmond, Va.-based Massey laid out a financial package that
it said would free the families from ever worrying about money.

Among other things, Massey said families would receive five times the
miner's annual pay as life insurance benefits and an additional
payment to surviving spouses. The offer also would include health
coverage both for surviving spouses and dependent children, and four
years' worth of college or vocational education at any accredited
school in West Virginia for those children.

Director Robert 'Doc' Foglesong said accepting those benefits would
not prevent a family from pursuing any legal claims.

Federal and state investigators suspect the explosion was caused by a
combination of methane gas and combustible coal dust. Toxic gases have
kept them from entering the mine. Officials say tests showing the
presence of acetylene and ethylene, gases not normally found in an
underground work environment, suggest a fire may be burning somewhere.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 30 April 2010

New Solution to unsafe workplaces.   

http://www.insurancejournal.com/news/southeast/2010/04/19/109096.htm



CSX can throw the young and dumb management to the wolves.

WRONG!!!!!!!

Shareholders will be looking at Safety in a different way.


http://www.internationalresourcejournal.com/resource_news/massey_board_faces_lawsuit_from_shareholders.html


Looks like a Great New Game Plan

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 30 April 2010

Ok nonemployee...do people die where you work due to negligence?  Don't
corrupt serious conversations with you halfwit over the top fucking
stupid comments..........back to the matter at hand.  People are dying
at CSX.  Our union has to make a choice soon?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 30 April 2010

If you really want safe RR operations, the CSX might just give you what
you want.
Safety Harness 2-8 point
Crash head gear, with eye and hearing protection.
Knee pads.
Kidney belts.
Stainless steel gloves, with liners of course.
Hazmat boots.
Hahn's device for the neck.
And the list can go on and on. Be careful where you go, ya might want
to turn and return to the way it is.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 29 April 2010

Lloyd

I dislike the term being politically correct (PC). By next week ya'll
should know the results of the UTU SSA. Definitely if this passes life
will drastically change. Look at the numbers the percentage that will
bother to vote that is a key element of union participation. On the BLE
the voting percentages were pathetic. Out of any issue a contract in my
opinion is top priority that determines our wages, work rules, benefits
ect... the oldhead conductor friends who I've spoken with stated they
voted against it. The unions if they recieve 50% of the ballots use
terms like a major turn out of voters. Most likely the headlines will
state CSX UTU on-property accepted by 75% of the membership (the 50% of
non-voters don't count). A little bit of fudging with the numbers. I
understand where you're coming from the unions need to grip on
themselves an act in a responsible way by securing a safe envirement
for their members. If calling a safety strike is in order than by God
they need to get off their arses get off the golf courses and take
action. Two fatalities in a year over remotes and no action is
negligent on their part.

Name: doesnt matter
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 29 April 2010

RIP Melinda Carter you will be missed by all of us here at barr yard.

Name: Lloyd
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years
Posted: 29 April 2010

Hey RRJ, I'm sorry I put it that way.  I really just meant that it's
more on our shoulders now then it is for the old heads.  Don't think
for one minute I don't respect the old farts out here, I just think it
will be up to the new generation to really take action.  Also, your
theory about ass whoopings and time outs would make sense if we all
didn't have to be politically correct or worry about someone calling
the police when we spanked our kids.  I see a lot of bad apples in
there late teens and early twenties but most of the new guys out here
(most) seem to have their act together.  Also, I'm not really trying
to start a rebellion, I just think in the near future we are going to
see some drastic changes that will result in a massive job loss.  

By the way, good post about the RCO below.  Couldn't have said it
better myself.

Name: American Worker
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 29 April 2010

UNIONS of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: 

CALL A NATION-WIDE STRIKE FOR SAFETY. 

Oil Workers, Truck Drivers, Coal Miners, and Railroad Workers have lost
far too many of their Brothers and Sisters to criminally intolerable
unsafe working conditions. These are the tip of the iceberg - they
don't include the other thousands of deaths each year in all other
industries. 

Workers are human beings, and we are Americans - which means we have
constitutionally protected inalienable rights. We have the right to
redress our grievances under the U.S. Constitution, the most powerful
law of the land. As American workers we have the right to strike to
redress our grievance against unacceptable, capricious, arbitrary and
unreasonable hazardous unsafe working conditions. 

American workers need enforcement of present laws, and we need new laws
with tougher penalties against companies and the management who break
them, and we need money to improve safe working condition
infrastructures.  

Striking is the one united voice of American workers that Congress will
hear - and the Country is behind the American worker on the workplace
safety issue.  

If Congress can spend $1.5 Trillion dollars on bank and corporate
bailouts for inept incompetent financial mis-management of historic
proportions, surely they are capable of enforcing present safety laws -
and drafting tougher safety laws - and spending a couple of bucks - for
the safety of the American worker. 

Surely there are a few dollars that can be allocated in the budget to
protect the American Worker from ridiculously unsafe working conditions
- after all, if you have billions to give away as pocket-change bonuses
to morally bereft and incompentent "executives", we think you
certainly have the same billions to spend on improving and enforcing
workplace safety for the millions of American workers who deserve safer
working condition, which is far and away a better investment of American
dollars.  

Union workers are American citizens. That's a fact. We are valuable
irreplacable American assets - far more important and vastly more
valuable than any number of corporate executives or Wall Street
Investment Banks. 

As citizens, we have the right to redress grievances under the U.S.
Consititution, and no one can argue against the fact that the present
state of unsafe working conditions in our major industries is wholly
unacceptable (and most likely criminal) to ANY civilized society - let
alone America.  

Within the last 30 days America has witnessed national high profile
cases of vast numbers of her workers needlessly killed and maimed in
offshore oil drilling, coal mining, truck driving and railroad
operations due to the worst unsafe working conditions in over a half
century.   

The killings need to stop.  

If there are any Union management officials reading these posts, the
Brotherhoods of the OIL WORKERS UNIONS, COAL MINERS UNIONS, TRUCK
DRIVERS UNIONS, AND RAILROAD WORKERS UNIONS are ready, willing and able
to strike - all you have to do to be assured of this fact is to read
what we are writing - to our congressmen, on this and other internet
sites, in letters to newspaper editors across the country, and to the
families of co-workers who died in unacceptable and illegally unsafe
work environments. We are writing to anyone and everyone who will
listen to our grievance, and who will act to redress our grievance. 

America was founded on the Constitutional right of all citizens to join
together in order to have a united voice in redressing important
overriding grievances. There is no more important American grievance
than rebelling against criminally unsafe working conditions which
needlessly, arbitrarily and capriciously kill and maim American workers
every day of every year, year after year, decade after decade. 

Workplace safety conditions have not changed much - at most
incrementally, but not significantly -  since the industrial revolution
of the 19th century - and those early workplace safety laws were enacted
by Congress ONLY after an outraged public, and Union safety strikes,
forced them to act.    

The only voice that will be heard is the united voice of American
Unions with a nationwide strike for long overdue, urgently needed, and
vastly improved conditions in workplace safety. We don't need to wait
and loose more Americans to unsafe working conditions. We need to
urgently redress our grievance for safer working conditions, and to do
this we need to strike.

Name: Sandy
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year
Posted: 29 April 2010

This is a very serious state of affairs. Isn't anyone overseeing what
is going on in the Selkirk area?

Name: slack action
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 29 April 2010

RRJ: You hit the nail right on the head.....

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 29 April 2010

Remote Control Is a Failure for Railroads 

 CSX (CSX) and the Norfolk Southern Railroad (NSC) released their 2009
first quarter earnings. CSX reported that it had “a
better-than-expected first-quarter net profit, due in part to continued
strong pricing”, while the NS said it was “aggressively cutting costs in
order to offset the drop in freight volumes”. Better than expected,
according to CSX, is a 23% drop from 2008. (I would hate to see what it
thought a bad quarter would be.) Today, BNSF (BNI) and the Union Pacific
Railroad (UNP) will release their first quarter earnings, but will Wall
Street continue to celebrate their lackluster performance?


It is apparent that the Class 1 railroad network had a dismal first
quarter, however who is really to blame for their sluggish start? The
Union Pacific, CSX, BNSF, and the NS rolled the dice a few years ago in
an attempt to eliminate what they saw as a drain on their budget — their
manpower. They used investors' money in an experiment that has failed
miserably over the past 3 to 5 years. They threw billions of dollars in
the Remote Control Locomotives industry that not only slowed their car
count to a crawl, but also spent more in technology than they did in a
human being with full benefits.

The theory of the Remote Control Locomotive (RCO) was good, but the
execution and reality was a complete failure. The railroads wanted to
eliminate the cost of a locomotive engineer by eliminating the cost of
a benefit package, as well as the threat of personal injury lawsuits.
However, the investment to eliminate those costs proved to be grossly
underestimated.

To eliminate the human factor, the railroads poured money into
satellites, receivers, on board computers, radio repeaters, RCL boxes
(GE, Cattron and Canac), speed pucks, stop pucks, new timetables,
switching zones, retro-fitted safety equipment, and countless hours of
specialized training. This investment resulted in the estimated cost of
$6-8 million per locomotive and had a life span of only 5 to 6 years.
When you did the math, the human being that was replaced was actually
much cheaper than the sluggish remote control project.

Another problem with the RCL project is that the bean counters failed
to realize that reducing the size of a crew would actually result in
fewer car counts. CSX, the first Class 1 railroad to release its 2009
first quarter results, stated that its volume was down across all
segments, as construction and consumer-related markets remained weak.
We expect that BNSF and the Union Pacific Railroad will say the same.
The railroads have become reactive by furloughing employees and taking
locomotives out of service. As of today, there is no definite word on
the Remote Control Locomotive experiment and the billions of dollars
wasted on the failed project.

The first quarter of 2009 is dismal, but Wall Street still doesn’t
understand that the problem with the railroad industry is the poor
decision making from the executive offices. When the executives finally
realized that there are customers who would like to ship via rail, the
car counts will increase. When they invest in their workers instead of
trying to replace them with a failed RCL program, then their
productivity will increase. The executive bean counters need to be
replaced by people who actually know how to run a railroad.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 29 April 2010

STRIKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!STRIKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PS RRJ--your the biggest fucking idiot and every word you type proves
it! Stay away you fucking mut!

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 April 2010

Lloyd

You're still shouting rebellion. It's not going to happen. You can't
get enough people to get involved. The newer generation is to busy with
their text messaging, XBox games, hopping up a 1.5L midget car
w/spoiler, wearing their hats sideways, pants to their knees ect....it
just a job for them not a way of life. Their not commited for the long
haul. Times have changed. You state us oldhead don't care. We had more
safety strikes in the '80s and '90s then you'll ever see. They might
not have lasted long the railroad usually got a court injuction but we
managed to get our point across. The unions need overhauling they need
leaders who have backbones instead of jellyfish spines. I won't
disagree with that one. But, you stated those over 50 or retired don't
count anymore. I have to disagree. Those oldheads when I was a newbie
were tough men till the day they retired. Problem is there is no
respect anymore. Parents who gave their children time-outs instead of a
good old fashion arse whooping created this generation. I'm ready for
the flack that will happen. I'm just telling it as I see it.

Name: jsmith
E-mail: 
Employed as: Engine repair, for 1-10 years
Posted: 28 April 2010

I posted some info on here about several employee having to testify in
front of the Federal Grand jury a week or so ago about the harassament
and intimidation of injured employee. I have heard several indictments
were handed down on CSX, I have looked several times on here to see if
there was any response to the info I posted but there wasnt. I figured
you guys would be happy about some info like this. In 2008 in Waycross
every manager had been fired, demoted or told they had to go somewhere
else. They were caught signing off work packets and working on
locomotives in the ready field(doing 92 day work), so in other words
there were bribing employees with overtime pay to sign off the work. An
employee was injured and they let him sit in the safety office for
almost a year without reporting his injury, threatened to fire him if
he reported, allowed other employees to harrass him and they would not
let him go in the office without an escort. They sent Chuck Arwood to
take over for the plant manager they fired. Chuck would hide in the
parking lot trying to catch people leaving early, he would also try to
enter peoples vehicles. Ethics was called, someone came and took the
DVR storage device for the video cameras because Chuck was caught on it
pulling on door handels of employees vehicles. There were alot of
injuries after Chuck took over, one person was fired because he put the
worng date on the injury report and his friend lied and said he didnt
fall, The guy had to have a disc replaced. CSX is a bad place to work,
I suggest we the employee's hold them accountable by filing complaints
and lawsuits. We need to keep a close eye on management and document
everything and start standing up to them. Someone posted some
information about the RCO operator that was killed on the CSX message
board on Yahoo finance and it was removed.

Name: Lloyd
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years
Posted: 28 April 2010

Safety first?  Safety last my peers.  We all know moving freight and
getting things done on time is far more important then working safe. 
If anyone, I mean anyone who reads this site doesn't think the FRA and
Class 1 railroads aren't tied together you need to wake up and smell
the coffee my friend.  All these big wigs care about is profit and
that's all there is too it.  More money for the stock holders and
extra bonuses for the head honcho's, we are nothing more then mere
guineau pig's throwing switches, calling signals, and pushing a
throttle.  Haven't you all realized yet that if they could get animals
to do our job and not pay them a dime they would do it?  This isn't
just CSX though, this is every class 1 railroad who schemes and conives
us out of every dollar they can.  The little green box we control equals
a human being.  Every time they implement new techonology, that cuts of
a human being.  Why don't we all keep accepting things and just saying
"they can do that" and one of these days it wont just be 10 percent of
the population out of work, it will be more like 50.  

Everyone also says we can't strike if we need to.  The only thing
holding us back from a strike (if need be) is ourselves.  Who has a
pair and who doesn't?  When the time comes, it will be up to us to
either make that stand, or let technology overrule our livelihood's.
You guys are so scared of the government intervening that you can't
even man up and do what's right.  I hate to get on here and sound like
I'm preachin to the choir but a lot of you guys need to wake up out
there.  The guys who post on this site who are over 50 or don't work
for class 1 rail anymore don't count, but those of us who are still
active do.  It may not be now, it might not be 5 years from now, but
our jobs as conductors will cease to exist if they have their way.  I
guess that's why the UTU sold the BLET out for that little green box
all along...because they knew that was their only hope of existance. 
The time will come soon where we will all have an individual choice to
make.  Hopefully, we all make the right one.  

Lastly, the deaths that these remote jobs cause are outrageous.  Just
how many people do have to die because of these things to get rid of
them?  The answer?  However many lives equal the cost of those piece of
shit boxes.  I guess at least 10 more people have to die before we have
to see any kind of change there.  

You guys be safe out there and don't rush.  You can be the dumbest sob
on the railroad and they wont fire you, or you can be the smartest and
screw up one time and be out the door for good.

Name: Tahoed
E-mail: tahoedwashburn@yahoo.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 28 April 2010

Will a DUI disqualify from a job as a track worker  this is my first and
only defense

Name: robofuq
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 28 April 2010

The FRA does an investigation into every reportable incident, damage or
personal injury, and the results can be accessed on FRA.gov. Any time a
serious injury or fatality occurs on the property, it's a tragedy. A
comment on " It's impossible to switch 200 cars with 2 men and follow
all the rules".  You are only screwing yourself by taking shortcuts. 
The TM who turns his head at rules violations because the work gets
done will absolutely nail your ass with every one in the book when
something goes wrong.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 28 April 2010

I have to agree with one post. We have been selfishly thinking of how or
why this happened instead of thinking about Melinda Carter. The article
I read on the BLE(T) website stated she was a kind and caring person
who loved her family. I hope that Melinda's wishes come true that out
of this tragic loss the house she wanted to buy to care for her parents
becomes a reality in her memory.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 27 April 2010

Yes.
Yes.
No.

FRA is owned and operated by the railroads.

Name: Where IS the FRA???
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 27 April 2010

This is at least the second CSX RCO death in less than 12 months. The
earlier CSX RCO related death was in Selkirk, I believe. 

And, what about all the other railroads who have had RCO deaths?

It is beyond belief that railroads are allowed to continue to use RCO
devices without one iota of restraint from OSHA, FRA, DOL or DOJ or any
other government agency with ovesight of railroad worker safety.   

If anyone else killed off their employees with obvious and extremely
dangerous working conditions - without abatement - they would go to
jail for murder, or voluntary manslaughter at the very least. 

Are railroads above the law????  Is government blind?  Do any of our
elected representatives give a damn?

Name: the truth 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 27 April 2010

This situation of this young lady getting killed is everyones fault its
the switchman fault because he should have located her before moving.
It's the union fault because they know that remotes put lives in
danger because it takes away a human set of eyes from the head end. It
is also the employees fault because they took away the u man and we
still gave them the same production it's impossible to switch 200 cars
with two man and follow the rules,and it's the companies fault for
putting money over it's employees safety.

Name: Spongebob
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 27 April 2010

Very well said Former Barr Employee.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 27 April 2010

To RRJ, Big E.

When a company abandon's a site they walk away. When a RR abandon's.
the service they walk away, The RR never walked--- it was taken from
them. They loved it, when it happened. You would not know the
difference.  
It is not a matter of verbage, just the way it happened.

I think you are chocking on those 10 k per month retirement checks? HA
HA
More like a lot less?? Hogger.

Name: Fmr Barr employee
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 27 April 2010

I knew Ms. Carter and I also knew her switchman. (it was a 2 man job)

An absolutely numbing tragedy.  Every accident, EVERY accident is
preventable.  By the company, by the FRA and by the men on the ground. 


I am no longer an employee and to be honest could not give one shit
about Barr or CSX, but I did and do care about the folks who work there
every day.  I pray that CSX gives this the attention it deserves and
allows her family and co-workers the best picture of the truth
possible.  Regardless of who is at "fault" the proper steps and
communication need to occur to keep this from happening again.

I could comment much more on this job, the individuals, the
trainmasters, the company and what actually happened that day; but
honestly, I feel as though nearly all of you would miss the larger
picture and be swallowed up by your toxic conspiricy theories. Lost in
your feable understanding of safety, morality and polluted by your
personal agendas you all will make sure that Melinda died for nothing.

Go outside and prevent this from happening again.  How many things have
you, trainmasters and the FRA overlooked EVERY DAY? We are just as
responsible for Melinda as the company or anyone else you will try and
blame.  Go outside, talk to your peers, talk to your supervisors, talk
to your conductors and tell them about Melinda; that she was a good
person that did not have to die, and that we make the conscious
decisions every day regardless of our job, work conditions, etc. to
work or manage with the mentality that WE WILL GO HOME TO OUR FAMILIES,
AND OUR FELLOW TEAM MATES WILL TOO.

And since I'm sure your webmaster wont, I will tell you I am from
Baltimore, not Jacksonville, and I work safely for myself and everyone
around me; every, single, day.

RIP Melinda.  Barr, you are with me.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 27 April 2010

It's my understanding the box and battery were separated when it was
found.

Name: Freddie Krueger
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 27 April 2010

The answer to the question how many, is all of them.  The remotes won't
go away. I got my job briefing last night on this, as far as I can tell,
all that they have determined is that she is dead.  Man down feature
speculation is that the box was crushed too.
There will be no follow up job briefing on this, they want it to go
away....

Name: Another pont of view
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 27 April 2010

It has only been a few weeks ago that American was stunned with a record
breaking number of coal miner deaths, and the horribly unsafe and
uncorrected working conditions for miners. 

Now we have a preventable death at the hands of a major railroad
company - one death out of many reported railroad related deaths each
year. When will the carnage stop?

America's occupational health and safety systems are broken, and they
desperately need to be fixed.   

Railroad Companies - or any other company for that matter - should not
be in the health and safety/injury and death claims business. Railroads
- and any other company for that matter - are systemicly incapable of
"self policing"  worker safety.  

The only way forward to improve safe working conditions and prevent
accidents is to NOT allow the railroad companies (or ANY company) to
'self police'.  

I see labor injury statistics from all sectors of the economy every
day.  Workers in all industries have minimal safety protection. Why? 

The answer is money and willpower - or lack of it, that is. 

It is impossible to achieve exceptional safe working environments when
the companies who are responsible for providing safe environments are
impacted -and hence restrained - by the daunting financial costs of
making workplaces safe and the self effusing believe that injuries are
an  "acceptable cost of doing business". 

Under our current system, some employee injuries and deaths are
acceptable, as the total cost of claims is a bearable cost of doing
business and it is vastly cheaper than having to ramp up investments in
safety. This kind of thinking is a bankrupt political and economic
philosophy that must change if America is to maintain itself as an
economic power and respectable world leader.  

Improvment in work place safety means the investment of billions of
dollars - but money is not the problem. A lack of foresight and
willpower by those in positions of policy making power is the problem.
The problem is convincing those in Congress who have law making powers.


Posting your opinions on this site is one way to get your views known. 
Another way is to write the Obama White House and your elected congress
person.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 27 April 2010

Whats our union going to do? print another newsletter about their safety
task force and bullshit recomendations?  Why isnt the NTSB
investigating? The remotes are deadly..........don't use them and
don't listen to the people who tell you they are safe. They don't
care about you and your family. Have you ever seen a seat belt on an
engine? CSX doesn't care about your safety! How many people are they
going to let die before they realize it doesn't make financial sense
to use remote technology---the verdict is still out.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 27 April 2010

Hey RRJ:

It's been early '04 since I worked a remote. You're right about
back, necks and shoulders...it's just a matter of time before the
claims start rolling in!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 27 April 2010

I guess I'm having a hard time visualizing what happened. If Ms. Carter
was on the head end and the switchman at the bottom and she had pitched
control to him; the next movement should have been away from her...not
towards her. Also I can not figure out how or why Ms. Carter was in
front of the engine.

Doesn't the engine have to be stopped when control is pitched and
doesn't the bell ring prior to movement?

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 27 April 2010

NoMo

In Richmond and Newport News they still do a "man down" feature check
before each shift. I thought that was required. Of course a lot of
things go by the wayside. Riding on the bottom rung with a heavy chest
pack definitely isn't safe. It would seem to me it wouldn't take much
to throw a person off balance. I know quite a few oldhead yard foreman
vacated the remotes because of the stress on the back, neck, and
shoulders from these belt packs.

Name: Freddie Krueger
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 26 April 2010

I guess the new safety vest didn't save her, but maybe made it easier
to find her????

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 26 April 2010

RCOs are the most fucked up slow jerky slack action piles of shit...
they want to bitch at engineers for slack action when a load shifts
while switching or bust a knuckle on the mainline..but its ok for the
RCOs to slam cars around like its nothing.. hell the yard i work at
looks like a fucking beach with all the sand leaking out of the bottom
of cars from haveing the gates jared open from the slack action of the
RCOs.. it is a walking issue when trying to walk down between the
tracks as it now without piles of sand spilling out from under the car
to the outside of the rails.. when are the numbers of lost in laiding
and loss in productivity going to start to show the bean counters that
it is cheeper in the long run to put a hogger in the seat.... not to
mention the costs they payed for all this catron junk... 
that is all........

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 26 April 2010

Hey C:

I had forgotten about the delay.

With that being the case you're right...the man down feature was never
meant to save the operators life should they fall within the gauge ahead
of the movement...only equipment!

Now we know...you are expendable! The carriers know, the FRA knows and
turns a blind eye. 

Profits first, safety last!

Name: C
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 26 April 2010

Even if it functioned as intended it takes 10 seconds for the engine to
go into emergency when the ocu is tilted. At 10mph that would be just
over 146 feet. Man down feature isn't gonna save anyone ever. It'll
just stop the train after the fact.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 26 April 2010

The Tribune article was wrong. Melinda Carter had only worked for CSX
for about 6.5 years Besides being on the Safety Committee she was a RCO
trainer and was the foreman.

She wasn't riding on the platform she was on the bottom step and  they
had a hold of a handful of cars. She had also just pitched control to
her switchman. The "man down" feature failed to announce or stop the
engines and she was dragged some five car lengths...

It seems the fail safe function not only didn't work as it was
designed to, it didn't work at all and cost Ms. Carter her life.

If I recall correctly, at the start of the tour, we had to go through
the "man down" test after we fired the motor for the first year or
so. Then for whatever reason they got in the habit of handing 
over "hot" boxes to the relief crew or even taking lunch with them
"hot".

I wonder what the FRA will do now?

Name: C
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 26 April 2010

We all know there are SOOOO many rules that cause an enormous number of
steps to the simplest task. That said, I don't care how compliant you
are you will miss something at some point. They will find a violation
if they look hard enough. The whole point of the rules is to pin the
blame for any accident on human error. The very notion that CSX is
allowed to conduct their own investigation is crazy to me. They will
find something and blame the crew. Sad but true.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 26 April 2010

Hey Con 1-10:

Read the article in the Tribune, it say "Melinda Carter had worked for
CSX for about 11 years, her brother said, and was a member of the
company's safety committee. "It's not like she was a novice, not by
a long shot," David Carter said".

Regardless, she wasn't a new hire and was experienced in remote
operations. Please define the meaning of "mechanical" for us and if
you know what the engine was shopped for please share it with us. It
may not have anything to do with the "accident"...then again, it may
have everything to do with the "accident".

By the way...you sound like a trainmaster not a conductor!

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 26 April 2010

Ms. Carter did'nt have 11 years experience. She hired on with CSX in
Sept. of 2003,  Do the math she had 6 1/2 years experience. 
Furthermore, the Engine was supposedly shopped previously for
mechanical conditions.  What in the heck does that have to do with the
accident?  Do you folks know what the engine was shopped for?  Did'nt
think so.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 26 April 2010

Keep those safety chains clipped and tight!

Over and over you see locomotives looking like they are wearing a big
smile because the chain is not clipped "properly". My dumb ass
railroad used to have a "firm and secure" rule on the end platform
chains that they seem to have dropped.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 26 April 2010

Hey C:

Yeah you're right but standing on the platform sounds like something a
new hire might do. 

At one time I think the RCO was required to stand on the platform. 
However I seem to recall the rule changing back in '03-'04 which 
allowed the operator to stand in the foot well...besides, I was too
lazy to make the climb.

Ms. Carter had ten plus years service and wouldn't have taken any
unnecessary steps to stand on the platform in front of the head
light...especially at 1900 when it was dark enough for the bugs to
start swarming.

I'm sure CSX will make every attempt to devise a human error angle
on this one, like they've done on the rest. You can bet the spin
doctors are working this weekend.

I wonder what the UTU will say and do about it beside talk big!

Name: C
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years
Posted: 26 April 2010

There doesn't have to be a mechanical problem or broken knuckle. If
you're standing on the end platform all it takes is the slack
stretching out (you know that last little tug that lets you know that
you have them all stretched) to cause you to lurch forward. Anyone who
runs remotes knows that they aren't exaclty smooth. They are all
throttle and all brakes, there's no smooth transition of the slack. If
you're on the nose and not holding on or paying attention you could go
right over. Especially in the middle where the chain is. That chain may
or may not be stretched tightly across, and probably isn't. It could
have been at thigh or even knee level. This scenario has crossed my
mind once or twice in similar situations when I've been riding on the
nose of the engine. Don't think I'll be doing that anymore.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 26 April 2010

Support the Campaign to Ban One Person Locomotive Crews and Regulate
Lcomotive Remote Control:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H5vvPO9A6A

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 26 April 2010

My condolences to the Carter family for their loss. One imporatant issue
is the black box download of the locomotive and that the chest packs
were secured for the investigation. Another helpful tool which this
locomotive most likely wasn't equip with would be the camera. CSX
being first on the seen is not a good thing. That's a big problem it
should be treated like a crime scene yellow taped and secured with no
access until the FRA, BLE(T), and UTU investigators arrive. Which we
all know didn't happen. Was this a one person remote assignment? The
news article is sketchy on the info. The little info it gave suggested
one remote operator passed the controls over to Ms Carter. Then the
remote locomotive came to an abrupt stop or jerked with her on the nose
of the locomotive. Then moved. It doesn't make sense leading to a major
malfunction as the cause. There is a "man down" feature that is
suppose to prevent such situations. There is now a big possibility the
truth will never be known seeing the scene has been polluted by CSX.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 26 April 2010

The only other reasons I can think of that would cause the engine to
lurch is an impact or a knuckle broke close to the engine.

The Barr Yard Ballet has begun!

Name: john
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 25 April 2010

I know all about those REMOTES and i know the class 1 roads cover up a
lot of shit that happens with them, I live near a big steel mill and i
know many of those mill workers and they tell me horror stories about
the 12 remote locomotives they use in that mill, One guy got crushed to
death in a remote shove move only last year, It took 2 hrs before the
company knew what even occured, and the many things they told me about
all the derailments caused by REMOTES, some remote locos have even gone
into buildings were men were working and another took off on its own, it
finally stopped when it a dead end track and they coverd all this shit
up and even lied to OSHA about these things,, fuck lives were lost
because of these remotes and you sweep that under the table, I would
not trust a remote as far as a can throw one, Its sort of like the
class 1 roads saying signals can not fail, Yea talk to that family when
last week amtrack hit a car at a grade crossing at 79mph the gates &
lights did not come on because a maintainer forgot to take the jumpers
off the crossing relays, but then that one was human error so in that
case the rr will pay big bucks and the signal maintainer will get fired
case closed.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 25 April 2010

Safety First !
BS !
I recently retired after forty-two years as a Locomotive Engineer and I
am not surprised at this outcome. When the remotes came to Chgo. in
2003, they said that there would be only one. We, could live with
that.
When a certain former Supt. got a new job as Remote Control VP he
stated that ALL of Chgo. could be remote. I won't mention his name,
but his initials are, Ron Bierman. who was relieved of his duties for,
UNKNOWN, reasons.
Barr Yd is NOT a humping yard. That, is where a remote is possible.
In 2003. Barr Yd. processed 3,500 to 4,000 cars a day.
Before Remote.
In 2006 when they totally Remoted the jobs, they processed 1100 cars
per day. Do the math!
I have experienced numerous, " CLOSE CALLS" .
One of which involved my Conductor almost being crushed by a box car
that tipped over due to being struck by Remote that ran into my train.
CSX refuses to acknowledge the fact that Remotes are not a good idea in
certain situations. Except for hump operations, they are not cost
efficient. But go tell that to the powers that be. Go tell it to Miss
Carters relatives that we saved," a couple of bucks", with a Remote!
I'm sure that they will understand about the,"BOTTOM LINE " !  
I wish a Senate Committee would subpoena me to testify about the safety
of these Remotes.
P.S. Glad I'm RETIRED !

Name: Dave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 25 April 2010

NOMO
My condolences to the Carter family also. What a tragedy.

If you guys will post details you come up with, maybe I can at least
give you a heads up on the future processing of this accident.

#1 Gary Sease is being the CSX Spokesperson which means CSX is taking
this very seriuosly.  In other words, CSX needs to have total control
over all information in order to cover their rears in case they were
negligent.  Sease is the CSX big gun in high profile situations and
usually indicates CSX has somethings to hide.

#2 Notice the investigation is being made by CSX itself.  By the time
the FRA shows up any information that would hold CSX culpable will have
been changed or eleminated.  Any accident resulting in death should be
investigated by the proper regulatory agency (in this case the FRA) and
especially NOT the possible negligent party.  A federal investigation of
the FRA reveiled that the FRA in this case will never investigate, but
will accept a self investigation and self report by CSX as to the
cause.  The cause (in my opinion) will be human error and if need be
the FRA will show up to confirm CSX findings.

#3 CSX expects a suit will eventually be filed against them by the
family.  It is imperative for CSX to start preparation NOW in order to
limit the pay out.  

Keep me informed.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 25 April 2010

I wonder what CSX and the FRA will have to say about this? Pitched over
the front of and run over by a locomotive that had been out of service
for mechanical trouble? Sounds more like Mother Board problems! I guess
they didn't get it fixed. We'll see about Brown's
ethics and accountability policy!

My condolences go out to her family and friends.

Name: T
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 25 April 2010

Woman killed by train in work-related incident
April 24, 2010 10:05 AM | 1 Comment 
A veteran CSX Corporation employee who a family member says was on the
company's safety committee was struck and killed by a locomotive
Friday evening as she was working at the company's yard in south
suburban Riverdale.

Melinda Carter, 37, of the 10200 block of South State Street in
Chicago, was pronounced dead at 7:25 p.m. at Ingalls Memorial Hospital
in Harvey, according to a spokeswoman for the Cook County medical
examiner's office. 

Carter, a veteran train conductor for CSX, was killed when she was
pitched out of a locomotive, according to her brother, David Carter.

Melinda Carter had worked for CSX for about 11 years, her brother said,
and was a member of the company's safety committee. "It's not like
she was a novice, not by a long shot," David Carter said.

Carter was struck about 7 p.m. as she was conducting routine switching
operations while cars were being moved preparing them for delivery,
said CSX Corporation spokesman Gary Sease. Carter was struck by a
locomotive on the company's grounds near 134th Street and Ashland
Avenue, Sease said. 

"Our thoughts and prayers are with her family," Sease said. An
investigation is ongoing and company officials have been at the site
all night investigating, he said.

While specifics of the incident remained sketchy Saturday morning,
David Carter said his sister was moving a locomotive that had recently
been put back in commission after having mechanical problems "when
something went wrong."

She was thrown out of the front of the locomotive, which then rolled
over her, David Carter said.

"She enjoyed her work, and was always telling her co-workers 'Safety
first,' " David Carter said.

CSX is based out of Jacksonville, Fla., according to the company's Web
site and is listed as a transportation company that provides rail-based
services.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years
Posted: 25 April 2010

There was a fatality last night at Barr Yard-Riverdale,Il.  A conductor
running a remote was ran over and killed.  Lets all pray for her family
and kids.  

What a  benefit of working at the railroad.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 25 April 2010

Hey RRJ:

Seems to me that PTC was in play well before the Metrolink disaster.
As with all disaster, the regulators and politicians are reacting.
Perhaps the disaster brought PTC to the forefront because the
regulators said the solution is available and in the process of being
installed...as soon as we get the money;

As far as EO#26 is concerned, the carriers will enforce when it is in
their best interest...the FRA doesn't have the manpower or inclination
to enforce it but they can say look at us, here's the rule that will
keep this from recurring...and we did it in record time.

I seem to recall in the not too distant past there was a proposal made
to allow the carriers to install cab cameras to monitor the crew.
Unfortunately that is the only way the carriers and FRA can enforce
EO#26 as well as other operating rules. Of course everyone
will scream invasion of privacy.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 25 April 2010

LE 30+

PTC and cellphones are linked together as is the recent FRA HOS laws.
It all boils down to the operator of the Metrolink accident in
California. EO#26 did nothing unless people break the pattern of
covering up rule violations. Which isn't going to happen. No one wants
to be a snitch and it isn't a co-workers job to do the work of
management. It's got to be a one on one personal issue on board the
train.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 25 April 2010

Dave

The unions have been all for implementing PTC. Train control has been
used in the Northeast corridor for quite a few years. I just don't see
how it got to this point. The operator of the Metrolink was text
messaging. He entered the station on an approach signal which even if
he had a clear signal after he left the station it still required him
to run prepared to stop at the next signal it's called "being delayed
in a block". Why force railroads to succumb to unnecessary bullcrap
over an idiot who had a bad record and Metrolink did nothing? Putting
this commuter operator in the same league as a freight engineer on
hours of service is not even on the same planet. It seemed everyone was
down playing his role. He had a split shift he worked 3-4 hours in the
morning a 4 hour break then worked 3-4 hours that afternoon. Darn poor
guy what a tough life. We didn't need the FRA to force required rest
on us under the HOS. Engineers already had 10 hours undisturbed rest on
request.

Name: Dave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 24 April 2010

RJR

You questioned why the FRA would force PTC on railroads.

The FRA is run by the railroads. If something comes down from the FRA
you can bet your sweet bippy the railroads are behind it.
Think about it. Train crews don't like PTC and would object to their
carrier forcing it on them. RIGHT?
The railroads simply have the FRA to force it on them eleminating any
objections from the train crews.

I would gladly furnish proof to Congress, but they refused to hear me
during the NY Times investigation of the FRA being in bed with
railroads instead of regulating them.  The USDOT/OIG report on this can
be found by GOOGLING "Government Oversight on Highway Rail Grade
Crossings".

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 24 April 2010

RRJ,

My point was cell phone use, not ptc. These kids need to wake up...

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 24 April 2010

Word is spreading this evening that a female RCO was killed at Barr
Yard---Riverdale, Illinois. No details as of yet......

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 23 April 2010

LE 30+

I still see people posting on Facebook from their mobile webs. It
leaves a trail that can be traced and used in an investigation. It
still has nothing to do with the FRA forcing Positive Train Control.
There's nothing wrong with PTC as a safeguard. I just have a problem
with the FRA forcing railroads to implement it and the cost associated
with it. It won't stop use of cell phones. CSX could turn those
cameras around to the inner cab and monitor the train crew. Which from
what I've read it is a possibility. We came from another era. Without
all this BS like cellphones we managed to get our calls. Funny the old
crew boards with all those name plugs and the crew callers knew more
about everything than all this computerized crap.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 23 April 2010

RRJ,

I have to diagree. I still have conductors on their personal cell
phones and see Enginers too. The Railroads needs to get off their asses
and start to enforce eo #26, before someone else gets killed

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 23 April 2010

Lloyd

I've always been suspicious of the reasoning behind the FRA wanting to
force PTC on the railroads. The incident in California with Metrolink is
a bad example of forced regulation. Metrolink is paying the price
financially they knew the operator had a bad record. EO#26 took care of
cellphone use. Why the FRA decided to go to a higher level is baffling?
I've always been for longer training periods for trainmen and
engineers. When I'd go to work and had a conductor/yard foreman on
their very first day ready to get their cherry popped you could tell if
he/she had any common sense a good one would be scared out of their wits
a bad one would be gung-ho.

Name: Lloyd
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years
Posted: 22 April 2010

Best post I've seen out of you for a while RRJ.  Are you finally seeing
the light or what fella?  PTC is the biggest load of shit I've ever
heard of.  You think there isn't something behind this besides
safety..think again.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 22 April 2010

Dave

Your absolutely right HSR won't run on the current freight rail that
is subsidized by Amtrak. It'll be interesting to see if this takes off
or fizzles out. I do think it is possible in the near future. They would
need to build a separate track that would eliminate any conflict with
freight. 

The railroads both passenger and freight are up in arms over the
deadline for implementing PTC by 2015 last estimites by CSX the cost
was $1.2 billion. It's a no brainer who'll pay the cost either
raising rates or goverment funding. Personally I think PTC is a waste
of money. Money that should be spent on better training than this
production line concept that no one fails no matter how ineffective
they are. Before I retired we had new engineers that could barely run a
yard engine. God help us they're now on the mainline seeing remote
control operations have taken over yard service. Remote jobs that
newbies are forced to work and CSX fudges paperwork for run thru
switches, derailments, sideswipes ect...to stop the FRA from making
mandated regulations instead of the current guidelines that have been
in place since it's inception.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 21 April 2010

Hey Who:

      http://atlantarails.com/railfanning/csx-awp-subdivision

Name: Dave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 21 April 2010

RE: RRJ

Don't get me wrong.  I'd love to see high speed rail, it's just not
possible to run 220mph trains running on the same tracks as freight.
So, what is the purpose of Obama giving $8 billion of YOUR money to
finance HSR when it can't work, no more than controlling crossing
signals for 220mph trains will work?

Name: who
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 21 April 2010

where does the Montgomery awp run ?

Name: jsmith45
E-mail: 
Employed as: Engine repair, for 1-10 years
Posted: 21 April 2010

Several employees from Waycross had to testify in front of a Federal
Grand jury two weeks ago. I believe some indictments were handed down
on CSX. All this stems to the harassment and intimidation of injured
employees. One was fired a while back because he put the wrong date on
the injury report and the witness was at fault for his injury and he
lied on the poor guy to save his job. I think the guy that got hurt had
to have a disc replaced in his back. I hope CSX gets what they deserve
from the grand jury.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for N/A
Posted: 21 April 2010

Well Mr Swafford the new Division Manager in Florence.  How do you
coverup your new injury?  Are you going to call him and "TELL" him he
is not hurt? Are your reports going to match???

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 21 April 2010

HaHaHa!!!What the heck do you think abandonment means, Goob? If the
railroads were still being forced to continue passenger service it
wouldn't of led to the forming of Amtrak. The railroads abandoned
passenger service. Your play on words is amusing mostly annoying.

Name: goober
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 20 April 2010

The RR never abandoned passenger service. This is a fact.
They hated it for years but were required to operate by the us
government..
Amtrak was a take over by the us government of all passenger
operations
RR applied every day to eliminate Passenger trains, it was driving them
crazy..

I have seen the L&N leave passengers at the depot at holidays, rather
than add a dirty filthy car. As always just the was it was.

GOOFY

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 20 April 2010

Dave

I haven't a clue wether high speed rail will ever get a chance in this
country. The railroads abandoned passenger service decades ago hence
Amtrak was formed. I only stated most modernized countries have it and
their goverment subsidized. Look at Europe mass transit is widely
accepted if a person owns a car they aren't the gas guzzlers that we
embrace in this country. I think the last figures I read that America
consumes 70% of the worlds oil production. I think high speed is viable
on the east and west coasts from Boston to Miami and Seattle to San
Deigo.

Name: Dave
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 April 2010

RE: RJR

President Obama is furnishing the states with $8 billion for High Speed
Rail, upgrading existing RR owned track to accomodate 220 MPH passenger
trains.
The money given to the states can only be passed down to RR's who own
the tracks and will be the contractors due to a Geographical
Monopoply(as CSX in Florida).
With train speeds exceeding 200 MPH a train crew is helpless in
controlling the train. The government plan for HSR includes existing
tracks going through cities. (research Obama HSR) How do they plan to
compensate for crossing traffic?  Do you have an answer?

Name: Dave
E-mail: nelson284@juno.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 April 2010

RE:NOMO

I went fishing last week at a pond created by Mountain Top Removal.
There was an orange accid stain going into the pond from water. Didn't
dare eat the fish!
RR's and coal owners have always worked together.  The Anti Trust Laws
were enacted in 1882 to bust up the collusion between Standard Oil and
the B&O (I think).

In a deposition I had in Washington last Sept. (which included the FRA)
they handed me copies of my CSX-Sucks posts going back to 2005. You may
want to keep this one.

The Mine owners know of extremely dangerous enviroments and ignore the
MSHA resulting in deaths.  As you posted 29 miners dying at one time is
tragic. RR's also have multiple deaths, but have the abillity to cover
up more effectively since few people understand RR operations.  Let me
give you one persoanl example. Lugoff, SC 1991: We were replacing a
machanical switch with an M23A US&S switch.  I had all the switch
layout on hand for months. My director refused to purchase a new
switch, citing "You have to use a refurbished Sw. from Savannah Shop
in order to show a savings," which would produce a bonus for him. I
got the Signal Supervisor on a conference call with the director. The
supervisor told him if he didn't get the Sw. replaced, we were going
to D'rail Amtrak.  The director refused to purchase a new Sw. and we
DID D'rail Amtrak killing 8 passengers. Unlike the case of Massie
Engery the media was clueless as to the cause of the D'railment and
their coverage was hindered by the FRA covering up for CSX. There is no
time limit on homicide, should any Federal Official want to discuss
these facts, my e-mail adress is included at the top of the post.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 19 April 2010

Hey Dave:

Thanks for the posts...a interesting article. I was aware of the NAFTA
Super Corridor, HSR proposal and the upgrade along I-95 including
CSX's proposals. However, I have never seen the overall plan and the
scope is impressive. 

I lived in Mobile during the construction of the Tennessee-Tombigbee
Waterway. It was going to do wonders...20 years later it has yet to
live up to it's hype. Although a lot of money was made by insiders and
contractors!

Actually, part of the NAFTA corridor runs through Mobile...they load
trains on ships bound for the Gulf Coast of Mexico. I think they sail
every 5 days:

                http://www.cgrailway.com/

The MSHA is just as impotent as the FRA when it comes to enforcing
regulations. If you spent 10 years in the mining industry you certainly
know more about than I do; and the RRs do most likely kill more people
than mining. However, the magnitude of losing 29 men at a time and the
time necessary for rescue/recovery, is by any means unbearable.
Regardless of industry, any loss of life that is preventable is too
much. The thought of losing multiple family members from several
families compounds an already bad situation. I guess when you think
about it, there's not much difference between miners and railroaders,
is there?

Name: Bobalou
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years
Posted: 18 April 2010

Too all my former B&O buddies who I worked with between 5-14-73 and
11-30-88 in the Cincinnati-Dayton area hope you all are doing well and
can keep getting over on the railroad . To all my haters once again go
fuck yourselves because I'm still getting over never looking back !

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 18 April 2010

Cond 30+

It'll be decades if ever before there is any slight possibilty of
computerized unoccupied freight trains. The railroads won't spend
billions of dollars out of pocket. There is the safety issue of grade
crossings. The railroads would have to eliminate any contact with the
public by creating overpasses ect...that would include trespassers
that's a lot of fencing to put up. I doubt I'll ever see it in my
lifetime which hopefully is at least another 25 years or better. The
bigger concern is further reduction of train crews. The Union Pacific
opened the door to eliminate road conductors. An issue not likely to go
away.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years
Posted: 17 April 2010

Dave

Massey Energy is 100% non-union.  Blankenship told the miners at the
Performance Mine if they voted union he would shut it down.  The had a
50/50 vote to go union.  Wonder how the vote would go now if allowed to
vote? after 29 dead.  49 miners killed on Massey property in the last 10
year according to Cecil Roberts UMWA   Rush aka The Drugster Limbaugh
makes alot of mistakes with the facts make sure you are not reading his
bullshit.

He went to the mine himself and talked to the miners.  Search the net
for the info. 

Your stats are out of wack.    More fatalities in mines than the rail.

Name: Dave
E-mail: nelson284@juno,com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 April 2010

NOMO
I promised you information on the direction RR's and our ecconomy are
headed.  The news has not been made public, but let me give you a heads
up.
Every one wants to know why Warren Buffet bought the BNSF RR.  He
claimed it was a $35 BILLION bet on the nations ecconomy turning
around. YOW RIGHT! And I got some beach front property for sale in
Arizona!
Please look at the map in the link below and you can readily see that
the BNSF is positioned in an overland trade route from Europe to Asia.
The Mexican RR is owned by the Kansas City Southern,

http://www.winnipeginlandport.ca/
I would suggest that all read this article and do the research
yourself. This corridor is joined by multiple rail lines (main lines)
being upgraded to high speed passenger and freight services at the
expense of the American tax payers (See Obamas funding for High Speed
Rail).  This upgrade in the rail infrastructure includes the PTC
posters are talking about.
I can't go into all the specifics but, if anyone has a particular
question, I will attempt to point the way to finding the answers.  Put
it this way: The politicians and big business has sold our nation out,
research hard to find the causes.  Know who the enemy is that threatens
our way of life.

Name: Dave
E-mail: nelson284@juno.com
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 April 2010

RE;NOMO
Your thoughts on Massie Energy and the Mine safety is correct.
The MSHA regulates the mine safety and are corrupt.
The FRA regulates the RR's and are corrupt.
The MSHA has $90 million in fines against the mines that have been
appealed.
The RR's do the same to the FRA.  A fine for poor safety is merely
appealed and never paid.
So much for a safety incentive through implementation of fines.
Miners pay little attention to and their union ignore the regulatory
problem until it comes home in the form of a methane explosion.
Train crews and the unions pay little attention to signal failures
until it comes home in the form of a propane truck explosion, or a head
on with a train that should'nt have been there.
The problems in mine and rail safety is NOT up to the regulators, but
the work force.  Until men become men again the safety problems will
continue.
I spent 10 years in the mining industry before coming to CSX and I
promise you, the RR's are much, much more dangerous than coal mines.

Name: Dong Bagley
E-mail: MikeWard'sbuttbuddy@csx.com
Employed as: M of W, for 1-10 years
Posted: 17 April 2010

Memphis sub: Roadmaster has a 704 violation in a siding without any 704.
Regulator and tamper operator out of service.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 17 April 2010

Thank GPS for that.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 17 April 2010

Locomotive Engineer 30+ years
 
   The coming PTC will not only slow the train down according to the
signals but also for permanant and temporay slow orders and Form W
track orders. It's only a matter of more powerful computers and the
grade and train makeup will go on and good bye everyone on the train.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 15 April 2010

Lloyd

PTC has been around for a while. In Richmond all trains heading north
on the B&O Eastern (former RF&P) must have working train control. All
PTC does is if an engineer doesn't take action according to a signal
indication it will apply a penalty application. No more running up to
signals. In the early '90s CSX had us qualifying north on the former
RF&P for 30 miles to make a short cut to run empty trains west with
locomotives not equiped with PTC. It was short lived the goverment
rejected CSX application for a waiver. That corridor is heavy with
Amtraks coming in and out of Wash DC. I don't think PTC will be a
factor in doing away with conductor jobs. The arguement the Union
Pacific used to try an get rid of conductors a few years ago was unit
trains. That a conductor on a unit train wasn't necessary seeing no
on-line switching was to be performed. Over the years we've had
various protective devices installed on locomotives from the dead man
pedal to alerters. PTC is just another protective device.

Name: Lloyd
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years
Posted: 15 April 2010

I just think it's amazing no one can see into the future except the
guys who switch cars and pull the throttle.  How can our unions turn a
blind eye to whats going on?  Phase out humans and bring on the
computers!!  Seems to be the best way to raise stock and put more money
into the pockets of people who already have it.  Hopefully everyone will
catch on to what's going on sooner or later or we will all be fucked. 
What's really interesting is that not only does this technology affect
conductor's and engineers, it also affects trainmasters, roadmasters,
and dispatchers.  Going to be interesting to see what happens in the
next 5 to 10 years.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years
Posted: 15 April 2010

Brakeman 20+
         I don't know why the unions wanted PTC but the railroads will
get rid of the road conductors in 5 years and the engineers in 15. No
one will be left on the train but a computer (with a reflective vest
on)

Name: Lloyd
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years
Posted: 15 April 2010

Sounds like you have made a friend for life there RRJ.  This guy really
hates your guts even though Im sure you dont care.

I thought I'd post today because I am pretty concerned about this
whole PTC thing.  Now I don't claim to know everything about PTC and
who is implementing it but from what I have heard this is something our
government wants because of the whole texting accident.  
Now, if our government is so concerned with job creation and people
holding onto their jobs, why would they force this upon class 1
railroads?  Or is this something that the class 1 railroads would love
to have to save money in the long run?  I would say without question
this is going to get rid of jobs.  I know they will still need utility
men on the line of road and some territories wont be accesible by road
so there will be some conductors no matter what, but what about
everyone else?  Apparently this is coming and there is nothing we can
do to change it, or is there?  I mean why don't we just let the
locomotive run down the road without anyone and let the satellites in
the sky control the signals, rate of speed, and we can put robots on
the ground to switch cars while we are at it.  Am I wrong here or does
everyone else feel the same way?  I just see this as a horrible idea
that will diminish jobs and make our lives more miserable.

Name: Stockwatch
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 14 April 2010

Maybe CSX stock went up when Dr. Ingram left?

This guy looks like a Doctorate CanDIDate


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/12/don-blankenship-investors_n_534901.html

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 12 April 2010

Is there a parallel between the FRA and the Mine Safety and Health
Administration? Politics and greed!

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/11/us/11mining.html?pagewanted=1&src=un&feedurl=http://json8.nytimes.com/pages/national/index.jsonp

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 12 April 2010

How ironic...excuse me while I chuckle!


 
1 hurt by Operation Lifesaver train
 
JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- A train engine pulling a caboose used to promote
railroad crossing safety collided with a tow truck in North
Jacksonville this afternoon, injuring the tow truck driver, the Florida
Times-Union reported.
 
The accident occurred about 1:15 p.m. in the 9200 block of North Main
Street across from the Preferred Materials concrete plant. A tow truck
from Abe's Wrecker Service was leaving a junkyard and crossing a train
track when it was struck by the northbound engine and caboose, said
Jacksonville Sheriff's Office Lt. Allen Eason. 

There was no crossing arm at the site, but there was a sign warning
motorists about the track. 

Eason said the tow truck driver suffered non-life-threatening injuries.
The man, taken to Shands Jacksonville hospital, has not been identified.


The CSX engine was pulling an Operation Lifesaver caboose. Operation
Lifesaver is a nonprofit organization that raises awareness of railroad
crossing hazards, said Gary Sease, a CSX spokesman. A message on the
caboose read: Look. Listen. Live. 

The engine and caboose were headed to work switching trains. No one on
the engine was injured and no one was in the caboose. 

(The preceding article by Jim Schoettler was published April 8, 2010,
by the Florida Times-Union.) 
 
April 9, 2010

Name: Joe Shit the Ragman
E-mail: 
Employed as: M of W, for 30+ years
Posted: 11 April 2010

Damn near finally free of this company after 34 years. There were some
really good people I worked with over the years and some real assholes
. To the good guys , I'm gonna miss you all. To the Assholes ....For
your sake I hope I never run into y'all again . I dont like jail 
HAHAHAHA

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 10 April 2010

There were a lot of cover ups when Tom Wolfe was GM. It might be old
news. Quite a few peoples head rolled after that incident.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for N/A
Posted: 10 April 2010

Has anyone heard of the coverup of a personal injury from the the new
Division Manager on the Florence Division.

Name: Train wreck
E-mail: 
Employed as: Car repair, for 1-10 years
Posted: 10 April 2010

Safety......It's all a matter of opnion in Barr Yard. Interpitation of
FRA rules depends on who's reading them or how high your bad order
count gets.To make a judgement call on the side of safety could cost
you your job. Safety first is the new joke slogan.And god forbid
managment come to an employee to proactively to fix any problems or
miscommunication or misinterpitation..Reactive is how officals operate
to every situation faced in this yard

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 09 April 2010

screwed again

You might try railroad.net to get sympathy for being passed over on
getting hired. A lot of foamers on that site some have been applying
for years trying to get any type of rail job. Some even apply to every
railroad in the country. I have to give them big kudo's they never
give up.

Name: Lloyd
E-mail: 
Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years
Posted: 09 April 2010

Trust me when I tell ya fella, you aren't missing out on anything
special, so don't lose any sleep over it.

Name: screwed again
E-mail: 
Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for N/A
Posted: 09 April 2010

looks like the russell division posted 30 jobs for their special friends
again. unless you know a boss on the railroad you can't get a job
there. they post the jobs but know who is going to fill them. csx is a
terrible place to try to get work, they don't want anyone with a
working education. experience and college doesn't mean a thing. only
who knows who. hope progress rail buys them out some day so employment
will be equal in the russell kentucky area. guess they haven't got
tired of getting sued for accidents and paying out big money for fake
injuries.

hope top brass takes time to read this even though it won't amount to
anything since they are behind all decisions. maybe one day they will
get shut down like the raceland car shops, fill the two holes back up
in worthington from the dirt used to build the tracks on and move their
company out of our area.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 09 April 2010

Conductor, for 30+ years

Sigh...........um. Would you retire?... please? Be on your way now and
please remember to look back upon the wonderful working environment you
have helped create for future generations. We thank you for all you have
done. Kudos! Cheers to your legacy! Good luck in all you future
endeavors...................

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 08 April 2010

What is the average age of the UTU membership? The membership that elect
the local Chairmen, which elect the General Chairmen, which elect the
President, Vice presidents etc. You should have already had your
generation in the leadership of this union. Nope, just as I said, all
hat....no cattle. You just want to talk a good game but do nothing.

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 08 April 2010

I saw this on the news this evening and could puke:

         http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032619/#36238842

You only thought CSX was bad...compared to these guys, CSX is a walk in
the park.

Every union local on CSX needs to let the Miners and their families
know they support them. This tragedy is so horrific and heinous that
words can't begin to describe it. Any loss of life that is
preventable, is in my opinion criminal. I only hope that the Mine
Safety and Health Administration racks Massey's balls and that Don
Blankenship, that pompous piece of shit, gets what's coming to him!

Name: NoMo
E-mail: 
Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A
Posted: 07 April 2010

My heartfelt condolences and prayers go out to the families of the
miners that tragically died yesterday in Montcoal, W.VA. May they rest
in peace.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years
Posted: 06 April 2010

What is the average age of the leadership of our union? and which ones
were the first on their block to get a t.v when they were kids?

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years
Posted: 06 April 2010

I'm not retired, but wished I was. I don't have any complaints about
the job, wages or benefits. I get tired of the cat and mouse games the
company likes to play. 

I just get the impression that the older generation completely ruined
it for the younger generation. I don't know how with all the
improvements in wages, guarantees, benefits and safety. I'm sure the
company did all this because they just like us; without any input or
negotiations with the unions.

All I've read is how bad the younger railroaders have been screwed and
they're gonna fix it. I haven't seen much action on that, just message
board fodder.

Name: RRJ
E-mail: 
Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years
Posted: 05 April 2010

Complaining about what? No complaints here. The only complaints I'll
have is if CSX stock drops in price. Other than that life is good. No
more middle of the night phone calls, no more being stuck in a hotel
for 24+ hours getting bed sores, no more harrassing officials ect...the
list can go on. No sir, not a single complaint.

Name: 
E-mail: 
Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 30+ years
Posted: 05 April 2010

Hope all you guys out there complaining are still enjoying those
retirement checks and any other benefits you get each month.  I
agree with quite a few of the bitch and moans but you gotta know in
your heart most of the hard feelings were brought on by self or some
of your co-workers sti