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Casey Jones you'd better,
watch your speed...

"The railroad is a 24 hour a day, 7 day a week operation", many of us have been told, when requesting some extra 'rest' between jobs. Unfortunately, the people that make the railroad move, like all other people, do not operate "24 hours a day, 7 days a week".

Anyone who's worked around the clock has either seen, or experienced first-hand, the inevitable effects of sleep deprivation. Maybe it was you, maybe it was the jitney driver, maybe it was....

The real fun is when someone tries to explain to the crew-caller that they are too tired to go to work.

Name: MadMan
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Employed as: M of W, for 30+ years
Posted: 10 March 2010

Another Wonderful Day on the Baltimore Division!

CENTER CITY - March 9, 2010 (WPVI) -- A derailed train car fell as it
was being lifted, and the Action Cam caught it on video.

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When more than 2 million pounds of churning metal tries to come to a
screeching halt, something has to give, and the train derailed Monday
night just after 10 p.m. at 23rd and Race streets in Center City
Philadelphia.

Michael Fischette lives along the tracks and watched as the conductor
tried to keep the train on the tracks.

Crews spent the morning trying to get the cars back on the rail and
clear the scene. They had a minor setback when one car toppled over.
But they got the job done a few hours later.

VIDEO: One of the cars slipped and fell onto its side during efforts to
get it back on the tracks Tuesday morning, and Action News cameras were
rolling as it happened.

There were no hazardous materials aboard any of the 5 cars that
derailed. CSX teams had the train repaired and back on its way by
noon.

The rail lines are used solely for freight trains and the derailment is
not affecting commuter trains.

Fire officials say there are no injuries and no hazardous material
involved.

The cause of the derailment still under investigation.

(Copyright Š2010 WPVI-TV/DT. All Rights Reserved.)

Name: steve E-mail: hmstoo@hotmail Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 09 March 2010 Hey Skippi! I started with CSX in the 70s and quit in the 90s. Retirement age was changed when Regan was in office. I wasn't eligible for full benefits until I was 66 & 9 months.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 09 March 2010 Name: RAD E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years Posted: 05 March 2010 Yea about train di,s many times i would get a right away EMEGENCY call usualy in the early am hours for a recrew only to sit on that train for 12+ hrs never turning a wheel and getting another re-crew for us,Some of those di,s & movement directors must have had their heads up their arses then the rr blames the men for all that wastefull OT. 4 main tracks & they could not move a train 20 miles to me that is assinine but it sure payed off on our pay checks, What other company would pay people big bucks for doing nothing??? A lot of my non railroad friends did not believe me when i told them stuff like this and many would say i was making it all up just to get attention.... All i can say is i never dreamed there was a job like that untill i hired out on the rr.XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Come on RAD-- (Many times) is really one time. It happens every day everywhere. Train called crew show's up moves and some one derails. Trucker show's up and the truck won't start. Wife opens the Freezer and it stops running. Phone rings, and goes dead Battery. Car starts, and run's out of gas. If you are really lucky they will dead head you both way's next trip.Bet they do not, but always possible because that is the way business run's Jeez get a life. Stuff Happens and no human alive can make sure it does not continue, so get off the callers they are not the problem, they are just the messengers.

Name: RAD E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years Posted: 05 March 2010 Yea about train di,s many times i would get a right away EMEGENCY call usualy in the early am hours for a recrew only to sit on that train for 12+ hrs never turning a wheel and getting another re-crew for us,Some of those di,s & movement directors must have had their heads up their arses then the rr blames the men for all that wastefull OT. 4 main tracks & they could not move a train 20 miles to me that is assinine but it sure payed off on our pay checks, What other company would pay people big bucks for doing nothing??? A lot of my non railroad friends did not believe me when i told them stuff like this and many would say i was making it all up just to get attention.... All i can say is i never dreamed there was a job like that untill i hired out on the rr.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 03 March 2010 Conrail TD's. I remember them all to well leaving the C&O Walbridge Yard on a coal drag to the piers a 20 mile trip. First stop was in 6 miles the Conrail diamond. We would wait 3-4 hours to get across it just about every trip. Then like a blur a short arse train running 60mph would go past. We didn't have direct communications by radio like today and ringing them up on a call box was just a formality to appease the delay report. After that was the N&W diamond it wasn't as bad as Conrail but it was a pain to cut 2-3 crossings.

Name: Jesus Nomo E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 02 March 2010 LOL! Nomo said this....... Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 22 February 2010 Hey Con 1-10: Lets get one thing straight...first I'm not your buddy. Secondly, at 28 your not old enough to know the difference between shit and shinola. If you've been in furlough status for four years, why would you hang around the crew room and make yourself mad by watching the old heads tally their earning statements? Or better yet, why haven't you taken a transfer...I'm sure they have been offered. Why are the "young guys" suffering to feed their family? Perhaps you can favor all of us by telling us what kind of trucks they drive and how they live. The old heads can drive those trucks because their families are grown and hopefully off their dole, their houses are paid for. Their expenses are less than a young man with a family. Life is full of choices...you can save and invest money now or you can spend it on impressing your friends. Make the wrong choice now and you'll regret it later. Any one under 30 has never seen truly tough times. Times are tough and will get tougher before they get better, sounds like the regrets are starting. By the way, I have a '01 GMC Yukon and a '99 MB ML450 and the money I've saved on notes, insurance and tags will pay for a nice extended family vacation in Europe this summer or buy one of my Grandchildren a P.A.C.T. contract which will pay for their college education. Like I said, it's their money and they can spend it however they want to. If they are suffering however, do you think it might be because of the choices they made? What he failed to add is that he is full of shit and that he was selling his furniture to his step son not that long ago. The step son that still works for railroad.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years Posted: 02 March 2010 I will title this CLUELESS CONDR...Dispr what are we here for? A bus, submarine, or train....DUH

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 02 March 2010 Hey Loco 10-20: Danny Spencer going back on his seniority might be like a ex-cop going to prison for raping a child!

Name: rel'd women of B'ham E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 02 March 2010 Great news everyone, yeah!!!!!yeah!!!!!!heah!!!!! Danny Spencer has been fired as a CSX officer, the days of fucking with peoples wifes, chickenshit failures, lying to everyone, stepping on toes has finally caught up with old Danny. Too bad he did'nt get fired completely. Would have been nice to have seen his seniority taken away so he could see what it feels like to be on the other end of things for a change. Ever heard of 'Karma' Danny? well you finally got yours.

Name: ch bell E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years Posted: 01 March 2010 I will title this DUMB DISPATCHERS. When i hired on conrail we had a sub div known as the cleveland line from that ran from allince ohio to cleveland and was in charge by the di,s in cleveland ohio, we called it the towers, But any way conrail would always give TV trains high preference, Ie hot shots esp on ex prr lines, but when you got on that 50 mile cleveland sub div it became a living nightmare, Those di,s in cleveland would put ore train drags in front of tv trains very often and one day i was on a tv train and we got to rave tower and by dam the operator had us back into a fuckin siding to let a ore drag pass us, Ie we had the 60 mph train per say then as you might suspect we had to follow the ore drag all the way to cleveland and every signal stop & proceed, Well i was just a newbee at the time and i asked my hogger about this stupid shit and he said get used to it kid they do this all the time on what they called thier railroad, My hogger also said they do it becasue they do not like crews who are from the ex prr so they will jack your chain when they get the chance, Don,t know if that was true but it sure seemed like it to me as those cleveland di,s would get very cocky with you on the radio, i mean it was conrail and they would call us p company men right on the radio and the ex nyc crew dispatchers at collinwood would call us that name too. But what was funny about that cleveland sub div they had rave tower and we would call it the phantom tower as you never knew if was going to be open or closed, it was listed as a part time tower open 1st & 2nd trick and many times you would come to it at 3 am and a operator was in there, I mean they at least should have put that in a bulltin, but yea they did odd things on that cleveland dub div i guess it was thier own lil world and they sure did know how to fuck up train movements, No wonder why the NYC went bankrupt a bunch of a holes who could not run a ho train set let alone the real thing.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 28 February 2010 This is my kind of Chimp...I wonder if he ever worked for the railroad? http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35602234/ns/technology_and_science-science/

Name: averagejoe E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 21 February 2010 still furloughed cubby your probalby right about hearing about csx starting to hire again while they have people furloughed. the union does nothing about it though becuase once you are hired you have to join the union or face bieng fired so yes i have said it once and will say it again the union cares for itself as long as they get thier dues they dont care where it comes from csx can hire and furlough as much as they want as long as a certian number of each respective union members are forced to pay dues the unions dont care just like the company as long as they get thiers. people bitch about csx and god knows i do too i dont even work their used to be a dream but i am a very astute young man and after carefull reading i came up with what i just said. as long as the unions get thiers what the hell ever to the members now im not saying do away with the unions im just saying as long as there is enough members in service for the unions to still be profitable there will be no change for the better of the working class men, no strikes, no arguments hell it seems like anymore you feel lucky to have the chance to sacrafice a finger to save a arm so i ask all of you is that the meaning of a union give them a little to sacrafice livelyhood what happens when we run out of fingers then they take the arm and we feel lucky they didnt take the other arm guys there isnt an end im not asking for answers just trying to see if you can see where im coming from im likel the control i look on from the outside read the contracts and weigh the options and the options are as i just stated

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 20 February 2010 Please Read if cut back or flowed back Open enrollment begins November 1 for BLET Short Term Disability plan CLEVELAND, November 2 Open Enrollment for 2010 under the BLETs Short Term Disability insurance begins on November 1, 2009, and runs through December 15, 2009. If you are a locomotive engineer working on a railroad that participated in the Wage Rules portion of the national agreement dated December 16, 2003, your coverage under Part A (described below) of the BLET Short Term Disability Plan will automatically continue. Last year, if you opted out of Part B coverage (also described below), then you can opt back in during this enrollment period. If you currently participate and wish to opt out of Part B coverage, you can also do so during this enrollment period. Part A Non-Occupational Disabilities Effective January 1, 2010, there will be no changes to Part A coverage: Your eligibility and $40 premium is submitted by the railroad on a monthly basis. Part A pays $402 per week for non-occupational disabilities only. Occupational disabilities are not covered. Each eligible member is insured for $50,000 of Accidental Death and Dismemberment (AD&D) coverage. Part B Occupational Disabilities Effective January 1, 2010 there will be no changes to Part B coverage: Part B is voluntary. Participation in this additional occupational coverage is not required. The weekly benefit for occupational disabilities is $402 per week. Each eligible member is insured for $50,000 of AD&D coverage. The benefit is not subject to repayment upon receipt of a FELA settlement (no repayment after a personal injury settlement). The benefit is not considered taxable income. The cost is $23 per month and will be payroll deducted with your monthly union dues. NOTE: UTU members working as engineers are eligible for Part A and may purchase Part B coverage by making an annual payment of $276 to the BLET Trust Fund. ************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************** IMPORTANT: Eligibility for Part B is dependent on your eligibility for Part A. In order to be eligible for Part A, you must have** ****seven starts in a month with one start as an engineer.************ If you are furloughed to train service and become ineligible for Part A coverage, you must notify the Secretary-Treasurer of your local division immediately. At that time, you have three options: 1. Continue coverage of Part A and Part B by paying $40 directly to the BLET Trust Fund by the 10th of the month and continuing payroll deduction of $23 for Part B. Coverage may only be continued for six months under this option. If you choose this option, you will need to contact the Plan Administrator (information below) for additional instructions. 2. Discontinue coverage of Part B temporarily until you return to engineer status and become eligible for Part A. An engineer, who loses Part A coverage due to no fault of his own, may resume coverage for Part B once he returns to engineer status and becomes eligible for Part A. You must keep the Secretary-Treasurer of you local division informed of your status. 3. OPT-OUT of Part B by completing an OPT-OUT form. If you choose to opt-out of Part B, you may only resume coverage during a subsequent annual enrollment period. If you currently do NOT participate and choose to do nothing, you will continue to be only eligible for Part A coverage. If you currently do NOT participate and would like to sign-up for Part B coverage during this open enrollment period, or if you do currently participate and would like to opt-out of Part B coverage, you must notify the Secretary-Treasurer of your local division by completing and returning the attached form by December 15, 2009. Your election will become effective on January 1, 2010. Members who OPT-OUT of Part B coverage effective January 1, 2010, will not be eligible to enroll for the coverage until the next annual enrollment period. Anyone with questions can contact Jim Bradford, BLET Short Term Disability Administrator, at (216) 241-2630, ext. 205, or email: Bradford @ble-t.org. A copy of the opt-in/opt-out form is available below: http://www.ble-t.org/pr/pdf/STD-opt-inout.pdf d if cut-back or flowed-back

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 20 February 2010 CSX pays for their lodging/meals for 30 days on a transfer. Plus with the $10,000 bonus by the time they get qualified part of it will be doled out enough to rent a place. How can someone go wrong with a deal like that it makes the move a lot easier. It's better than being furloughed waiting for unemployment to run out.

Name: Wildman E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 19 February 2010 Before you get to Baltimore contact a realestate agent and get a line on some apartments big enough to hold your family and close enough to get to work without much hassle. Talk to the people you're working with to figure out what neighborhoods to avoid and even a few might have rentals you would be interested in. Bring warm clothes!!! It might be better to go by yourself until you get situated and bring the family along later.It'll be a lot less stressful on you AND them if they are comfortable at home and you ain't wondering if they're safe while you're away. Best wishes and good luck.

Name: moving E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 17 February 2010 i being transfed to baltimore in the next 2 weeks does anyone have any advice, or know anything about baltimore work conditions? PLEASE help ...........

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 10 February 2010 hey loco 30+ plus years you are right about the ns contract . CSX wants this bid system bad , if we vote this down they will want to go back to the table . The younger men need to realize the bid system will cut 10% of the work force , so back on the street you go.

Name: me E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 09 February 2010 just got the call to move to baltimore from florida panhandle is b-more working or being sent home ? please let me know i will be moving my wife and five kids to a new place and i need to be working...thanks in advance............

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 09 February 2010 NoMo you are 100% correct.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 09 February 2010 That's right No Mo if u make over your guarantee . Last half I did beat my guarantee but this half I'm not , so if this contact passes and I need off for a emergency I loose my Guarentee. Plus a 6% pay raise over a 5 year period that starts 2012 ; if u get in trouble (not only stayin marked up) you loose your stocks ! We don't even get a bonus until 2013 !!

Name: JOSHUA E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 08 February 2010 VOTE THE CONTRACT DOWN!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 08 February 2010 The Mid Atlantic seniority agreement is just CSX way of incorporating the former Conrail into the single system agreement. Did you really think 25% of CSX was going to stay independent? With the UTU single system agreement it' a double whammy for CSX. I certianly hope it is dove-tailed seniority especially when CSX is changing home/away from home terminal locations, closing yards ect...no one is safe. One thing is a definite it'll be a big headache for the LC's and GC's. We went through a yard consolidation incorporating 3 former railroads into one consolidated yard roster. It's been over 10 years an it's still not straightened out. When you have 3 LC's and 3 GC's fighting CSX loves it. CSX will pit everyone against each other.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 08 February 2010 What was the yardmaster suppose to do when ya'll informed him about a derailment? Maybe you should of waited the 10 minutes to try and rerail. Once he's notified does a really have any other option? I don't consider his actions being a snitch he was doing his job. Years ago we use to rerail cars if we could only took a few tye butts and a lot of patience. It was in industries where the tracks were in bad shape. A mainline or yard is different. What if the rail became out of gauge? The next train comes in not knowing and derails. Who's fault would it be? I know blame the engineer. Funny that's a typical conductor/yard foreman response. With so many being under trained then promoted to engineer and conductor those with experience need to compensate for their inexperience. If the engineer already had a reputation as being incompetent then the crew should of known better. Hell, I've had yard foreman/conductors complain because I didn't stop close enough for them in the clear. Darn they had to walk 2 extra car lengths. That's when being an engineer it's my call not theirs to make. If you knew he wasn't stopping in a proper manner then it's your fault. As a few incompetent conductors/yard foreman have told me their in charge. So then don't pass the buck.

Name: RAD E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years Posted: 07 February 2010 I found out never to trust anyone on the rr as one day our hogger ran a derail and derailed the front truck, well me and the conductor got it rerailed took us a good hour, 10 min after we got done the asst super showed up in the yard office, He made a comment, looks like the 2 of you have been crawling under a engine and that was the end of it,, I later found out that when it happened the YM got on the phone and turned us in for derailing the engine and i thought he was a nice guy, Just a fuckin snitch like many railroaders are, I should have suspected something fishy for the asst super to show up in a small yard at 9 pm at night, Don,t trust no one on the rr as they will stab ya in the back just to make a few points with the officals, I got a better name for em,SUCK ASS SOB,S

Name: Lloyd E-mail: Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years Posted: 06 February 2010 What happened up in N.Y was a tragic event. The fact that Jared's co-workers did nothing is also tragic. I remember specifically a conductor who came on here and claimed that the trainmaster ordered him to perform something unsafe after Jared said he needed assistance. He then went on to change a knuckle and apparently triggered the remote switch when doing so and killed himself. It is sad where we live in a society today where everyone is too fucking scared to speak up for what is wrong and stand up for what is right. You guys up in Selkirk should have done something along time ago if the story you tell is true. Or maybe the company threatened everyone up there and told you all to keep your mouths shut or else. Either way, it shows their tactics will never stop unless guys finally take a stand.

Name: nobody E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years Posted: 06 February 2010 In response to NO MO comment in all actuality where were all the 30+ year conductors when Jared died??? Oh I'm sorry they had to get that trip into Buffalo,Right?? BIG MONEY for nothing,let's all look back and see who was at the wake?,funeral? oh again I have to go to Buffalo one more time for my big fat fucking paycheck,you say you stick behind selkirk, all you think about is yourself and your greedy fucking 1 on 1 and I hope this new contract sells your asses down the road,you bitch and complain how you should get things but yet you never show up for a Union Meeting at all but you call your Local Rep when your tit is in a ringer how ironic is that?? FUCKING CUNTS-NO BALLS WHATSOEVER

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 06 February 2010 Hey Selkirk Con.: Sure they will...just like they did after Jared Boehlke died!

Name: selkirk conductor E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 06 February 2010 I know talks of what is going on in Selkirk with this Mid Atlantic Senority agreement the company wants,if Selkirk does not get the senority dovetailed in ,the boys in Selkirk are gonna fuck the company in the ground.

Name: David E-mail: truepath2000@yahoo.com Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for Less than 1 year Posted: 05 February 2010 Hello, I just wanted to submit my story. I went through the management trainee program. I got great reports from all the facilities I trained at. I wanted to work for CSX, family reasons, since I was a child. when I got my first assignment I was told, by the shop manager, that he did not like "my kind" and that he "would find a reason to terminate me." I am of Native American decent, I am very proud of my heritage. I went to HR, my supervisor in the program and the district mechanical manager all to no avail. Now I will not lead this story astray, I made mistakes at the shop. I asked many of the other managers and shop managers I had spent time with and was informed that the mistakes were rookie mistakes, no big deal. I had my dream stolen from me. During orientation we were told that we were the future of the company. That we should not be afraid to make mistakes, that was why we were in training, that our first assignment woulde still be under the trainee program. I miss my career. I have been trying to clear this up, through internal channels, for quite some time now. The vast majority of people I met were wonderful, ethical and followed both the mission statement and core values. Thank you all for your time.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 04 February 2010 I remember the same situation. Lite engines and a red board. I knew were were not going to stop, tooooo late then. However we did stop and I jumped off to see if we had passed the insulated joint and the front wheels were a mere inch on the correct side. Engineer was just laughing his ass off. He had to back up to see the signal, never phased him at all. amazing

Name: FY E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years Posted: 23 January 2010 All i know is when i hired on, IE no conductor schools, Ie on the job training for all crafts, TM,S& RFE,S came from the ranks usualy older guys who had hand on experince in rr operations as T&E,They worked with us, we did them favors and they did us favors too, minor derailments running switches that kind of chickin shit stuff never went to the supers office, I mean you really had to fuck up bad to get called for a formal investagation, Now we have all these colledge punk suck asses who will fire you for anything,Back then only a few yrs ago before these fucked up mega mergers, we could talk to rr officals like a man with understanding from both sides of the fence, But now its only one way, Their way and its a fucked up way and they wonder why everyone is out to shaft them, These rr officals today have no heart or compassion period, They all want to be at the top of the corprate ladder,, GOOD LUCK SUCK ASSES as i will screw your company out of money every chance i get and i will fell good about it too. By dam i thought it was bad in the military but these assholes got them beat fer say. Just to show you a thing back only a few yrs ago i was on a lite engine and we ran a red board and ran the switch too, The hogger got 15 days on paper and i got 5 days on paper, no trial no nothing just on our record, do that today and your on the street for a long time and the only reason we got the paper time is because we ran the electric switch and fucked the thing all up,If we had just only ran the red board that would have been coverd up very easy. ENOUGH SAID.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 21 January 2010 Retired, Thanks man you hit all of the points.

Name: retired E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 21 January 2010 To the condr that father worked in the 70;s and 80;s. you need to look at his time also for back then we worked 16hrs a day d.h. didnot count against this at all you should know if you live at home with him he was on the road he never was at home hardly any. in today no one puts in the hrs your father put in everyone wants something for nothing.The pay back then was good but the biggest thing we had in our favor was no harrasement and the r.r. was not trying to run us off everyday you went to work. the trainmaster and roadforeman and even the higher up officials was out to help us not fire us. Time has changed and it is not for the better the unions was out to help its members no so today they are out for themselves.things will not get better untill all the r.r.employees join together into one union the u t u has sold or give away everything that we worked for back in the 60;s and 70;s. I was a u t u member for over 40 years sorry to say my last 15years of dues went for nothing good.the engineers may not be the best of the unions but you have no choice but join together get something done together not working against each other since one day everyone working will be in engine service any way.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 20 January 2010 for the work we do.........they don t pay nearly enough........my father worked back in the 70s and 80s and his pay print outs are almost identical to mine.....this is bullshit.....no ceo in this country should make 20 million dollars on a bonus....its totally insane....he shouldn t even show his face.....20 million thats on top of his salary....this country and this company are corrupted....it makes employees like me and thousands of other furious.......PAY UP CSX..........PAY US FOR WHAT WE DO......HOW WE LIVE.....who would supply are country with supplies....give us a bonus we diserve it...or split that 20 million dollars up that you gave our ceo.....

Name: Jsmith E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 19 January 2010 I am in the process of writing a book about CSX and there so called safety policy, the harassment and intimidation and all the horror stories of how they have treated employees. If you guys want to share your stories feel free to email me at jsmith14449@yahoo.com. I only want true stories, not hear say or rumors. Need to be factual information. I promise you your name will not be mentioned anywhere,You dont even have to leave your name. If you setup a private email all I ask is that you check it later on to see If I contacted you with any questions. I wonder how much trouble I will get in by writing the book, I really dont care they can sue me if they want I dont have anything to lose, I had to have surgery and a month later they fired me. Please Email with your stories of this stinking company

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 18 January 2010 Hey Other: You forgot to tell us where you live! Damn right...it was cold, 13 straight days below freezing(at night). Just left my Beer on the porch...spent a lot of time outside raking dirt. Life is good...don't let it pass you by!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 18 January 2010 It was so much fun watching the weather last week, As GLOBAL WARMING grabbed them in Florida, Alabama, Tennessee, Georgia. Dang hope they have a little sun tan lotion for all of that heat.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 18 January 2010 Unions Call for Science-Based Reductions in Greenhouse Gases http://www.truthout.org/unions-call-science-based-reductions-greenhouse-gases56133 http://www.ageofstupid.net/ I'm sure that a few people will kick and scream over this. Bear in mind: Green jobs sound like a good alternative to no jobs. RCOs and one-man crews are the REAL threats to our jobs. If the carriers/unions/politicians/media keep you scared about something that's not a real threat, you'll wake up one day filling out an application at mall-wart and have no idea why. It amazes me how successfully the media has turned labor against itself. As a whole, we keep pointing our fingers at phantoms (blacks, jews, chinese, mexicans, environmentalists, etc) while the rich white guys behind the curtain are screwing us non-stop and laughing out loud.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 13 January 2010 Here's a video of that UP train out of Dallas/Fort Worth. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=90d_1263231280

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 12 January 2010 Here's one...I know there are several readers that know his music! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lab_S3Ix8x8

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 12 January 2010 I'm glad I didn't have to walk this baby...probably had high green all the way to Long Beach! http://www.utu.org/worksite/detail_news.cfm?ArticleID=50337

Name: Larry P. E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 08 January 2010 I hired on the Penn Central's Canada Division in 1975.When Conrail took over in 76 they dried our Division up and then screwed us over good on our pensions.Our contract agreement was 2$ in from the Co. for every $1 in by the employee,IN LIEU OF WAGES.That means the $2 from Conrail was the employees money.Conrail found a loophole in US tax rules enabling them to exclude Canadian employees from the RRB pension.Conrail then ran with our cash and sold the Division to CP/CN.I work for CP now.In 34 yrs I've worked for 4 different roads and never left the yard ,and take it from me.THEY ARE ALL THE SAME...We are just numbers and liabilities,and they can't wait to hit that DELETE button on EVERY ONE OF US.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 07 January 2010 I just love it when the news media screws up! http://www.utu.org/worksite/detail_news.cfm?ArticleID=50272 That's an CN/IC line, inbound to Mobile with some UP power. The UTU picked up the story off the wire and posted it...you would think the union would know whose line it is. I guess not...that might be asking too much!

Name: averagejoe E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 06 January 2010 you know what i agree most people on the rr are related and loved ones do get hired over more qualified people i had 2 intervues 1 the shop forman and his bitch was there to hand pick the people for the supposed recruiter a nigger who looked down on me while hiring his masstas white kin folk the second time no formen or anything only recruiters got the job that was over a year ago and still no word it was really embarissing for the first 6 months or so explaining to people why i wasnt at the rr yet so yes they do hire family for jobs that are for sure but they dont give a hoot about the imaginary jobs or the ones they know pple will be laid off from shortly so unless you were military or have high pull if you get a job there my observation is your bieng played as a fool or fucked from the get go

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 03 January 2010 CSX may suck but I bet its not nearly is bad as a short line! Quit bitching and go to work. Remember: Winning an argument on the internet is like winning at the Special Olympics - Even if you win, you're still retarded. Waldo, Conductor/engineer

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 31 December 2009 We read your post already in one section. It isn't necessary to post it in all sections.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 31 December 2009 If any of you believe your jobs are coming back, or new jobs will be created, your head is in the land of OZ. I personally don't and won't do anything for CSX unless I am expicitly told to do so. An example, I am told to walk to my engine and inspect it. Fine, No one can tell me how fast to walk. No one can tell me how to inspect my engine or the time limit to do it in. Paperwork? Broken pens, or the inspection forms not on the engine? I could care less. I call the yardie.......let him tell me where and how to get a pen or inspection forms. More time to relax. If I am relaxing, I can't get hurt. Oh, unless one of the many idiots that work here flat switch a car down into my track. Hard to believe but it does happen in this CSX yard. No, just don't care anymore. Don't care if I run out of time on single main track. Don't really care if I am late for work. Don't care if CSX doesn't pay me on time. My union guys will fix that for me. May take 2 to 3 years (without interest) but I'll get my money. Don't care that the radio has static when the dispatcher tries to call me. I don't move the train one inch until I fully understand what he or she wants. I am not allowed to use (and will not) my cell phone to move a train. I just wait X amount of time till the static on the radio stops. When I am stopped and a signal pops up.......I wait 2 or 3 minutes hopefully) to make sure it doesn't drop in front of me. I see a distant signal, I slow down, don't want that to drop on me either. It's just safer this way. Track speed 50mph.....45 is safer. Top restricted speed I operate at is 2 mph, which is very safe. CSX management should be proud of me, that I am sure of, because I haven't run thru any switches. All in all I like working here. Sure the hours are horrible,people show up for work late, in yesterdays clothes, smell like cigarettes teeth not brushed, but they are elite professionals. These elite professionals will show off to you and new hires by dispalying thier ignorance and stupidity of rules, regulations, and RR operations. But then my union reps or management will talk to the new hires and correct the problem,,,,,right? Well maybe the union or management talks to the elite professional and straightens him or her out. Yeah, thats what happens where I work. Never seen it personally, but "they" tell me it has happened. I feel safer when "they" tell me things like that. I am kinder to a stray dog, than to any union rep or CSX manager. I hold both in complete disgust and distrust. Both are liars, and thieves. What does the BLE do with my dues? Well in thier newsletters, complete with pictures, they are playing golf, in conference in Las Vegas, or discussing important union contracts at a nice resort location......so they can fully concentrate on the matters at hand. In closing, I,like many of you are nothing more than whores. CSX and the unions are the pimps. We get told how long to work. Where to work. How much we will get paid. How much longer am I going to be a whore? I don't know. I do know it is getting harder and harder to look at my self in the mirror. Are you brave enough to look in the mirror?

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 25 December 2009 Merry Christmas to all my union brothers & sisters who just wanna go to work, do there job, get paid in a correct manner, and last but not least...not get hurt. December 24, 2009.......and CSX STILL SUCKS!

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 22 December 2009 The best thing about being Irish an ex-man and having a understanding wife at Christmas, is drinking yourself through all 12 day of Christmas... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2dCMDNqE5Y The Conclave starts at 0001 on the 26TH. Happy Holidays...hic!!!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 21 December 2009 Everyone settle down. The UTU and BLET are looking out for our best interest(s), they don't care about dues, they care about us! Without the support of these Unions we would be making $8.00 an hour. Think about it.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 21 December 2009 Rad' Man it just happens, the RR hires a bunch, then a bunch retire. Now at times they hire a bunch and the last guy to post his position is the ragdoll. He get's beat to hell for years, looks like that is your fate. I worked with Firemen that were cut off for 20 years, and came back as Engineers. Yep worked 1 trip on steam and gone for a life time. The RR called them back and took very good care of these folks. Many were toooo old to come back, but the young one's had it made. Hell they were just lucky, or in reality not very lucky, they spent 20 years roofing and came back to the best job they ever had running freight on the right side of the cab.

Name: rad E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years Posted: 17 December 2009 To locomotive engineer,,,, No i am not a suck ass TM and never will be.. I am just stating some facts about a class 1 roads and i don,t like it myself, I have 23 yrs trainman service and to this day i can,t hold a reg yard job very long, Oh a week or two then someone always bumps me and i have been furloughed at least 6 times over the past 23 yrs and believe me if i could retire right now i would be out of here in a eyes blink, Hope you stick around and get to be # 1 on your roster then you can pick your job, Only thing you will be at retirement age when that happens.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 16 December 2009 what rad are you some kind of cock sucking trainmaster. well if not u shoukd be fuck off

Name: rad E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years Posted: 14 December 2009 Get used to it newbees the rr always was and always will be a feast or famine type of job and if ya don,t like it you can always quit and go the greener pastures if you can find one.

Name: retired E-mail: home Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 12 December 2009 After being retired over two years I received my u t u stick on pin from the u t u for being a member for over 40 years. well guess what I returned it to cleveland for in my r.r. career I saw the u t u sell or give everything that they could away .the pin looks like it came from China anyway.Csx sucks and the higher ups in the utu like Hancock is doing the sucking.As long as employees stays in csx safety programs and a few people get paid for doing nothing the csx is going to continue running people off for bull shit rule violations.If by chance the r.r. should change then by all means get back in and let a few people get paid good for doing nothing. P. S. I am sorry I had to pay dues my last 10 years of work for I saw the u t u go down to low levels even taking jobs from other crafts have a merry Christmas and a Happy new year.

Name: averagejoe E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 12 December 2009 hey there guys it is the christmas season all times for happiness lol one year to the day csx told me i have a job but guess what no job the sad part is that i actually thought i would get a job seeing as my daddy didnt work for the rr, i wasnt in the military because i couldnt decide what i wanted to do for myself, or i dont like to suck on big hard harry jew peckers so to all you semi rich dick merry fuckin christmas tell csx to blow me cuase i still wont blow them for a job

Name: JJ Boyd E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 11 December 2009 Just found out thet a long time fellow employee at collinwood ohio yard in cleveland has a snitch . he pretends to be your freind and the rats you out to the company . Conductor JIM BOYD may you rot in hell . the trainmaster are bad ,But you come from behind and stab your brothers in the back !!!! You better work in a well lighted area Jimmy boy

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 11 December 2009 APE 10-20 What yards are left in Walbridge? I started my career there as a switchmen in 1977 when the auto industry went sour transferred to Virginia in 1980. Back then we worked Yard D both ends, the east bound, arrival yard, the hump, westend switcher, skate jobs, plus a lot of transfers to the piers. Included was Presque Isle & Lakefront docks, Rossford yard, Fostoria yard, at least 5 locals ect...it was a big place back then yard extra board was loaded down with at least 100 people. Did Stanley take some work away from Walbridge? Two yards side by side. At least 3 times a week we made the loop to Stanley when it was Conrail. Got stuck over there during the '78 blizzard it took over 14 hours after hogging before the C&O (Chessie System) could get us. One down side back then was every Dec 23rd I got furloughed till March or April depending upon the winter. First place to get called back to was Fostoria for about 2-3 weeks working my way back to Walbridge. I liked working there the reality was it would of taken 10 years seniority or more to work year round because of winter. When the ships quit hauling coal an iron ore on Lake Erie that was 35% of our business.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years Posted: 10 December 2009 Soon to Retire- Thank you. I wish there were more of you. Especially Walbridge Yard callers. We (APES) aren't the best of the bunch but there are a few of us who stay marked up and willing to go that extra mile. I like to think that I am one of those guys. At least I am available on the weekends. Anyway, my point. It was nice to hear your side of the story. If you could elaborate more, I would appreciate it. Quick question- Why does the yard extra board slots vary day to day? CMC adds positions then takes them away. For example, this weekend we had 22 slots. Now (Wednesday) we have 18. Why? Anymore you can tell us would be appreciated. Thanks.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 10 December 2009 The new CSX management team!!! http://whitetrash.net/media/media.beer/2/3436

Name: retired E-mail: home Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 05 December 2009 To the conductor that heard the work will pick up. this is bull shit for in my 42 years service I never saw work pick up at the first of the year for no one taking vacations and if you will notice when work slows down the people that is marking off is a whole lot less. the first four months of every year is the slow period of all r.r. more people is losing jobs every day and the news is everything is getting better but just look around for yourself and you will see that working people is really not gettin any help. the working class of people hrs per week is being cut down every where some is required to take a week vacation without pay to help the smaller companies out.the rich is getting alone fine today for the stock market has made a big jump the middle class is going down to bottom. I hope work does pick up for everyone but donot bet on it.when you buy anything if you notice it is made in china or mexico. the best part about your job is they cannot move it from america so hang in there.

Name: sad E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 04 December 2009 i have heard that in the start of 2010 , everyone will be back to work. has anyone heard about this if so please let me know .....

Name: Steve Gordon E-mail: sgordon@gordon-elias.com Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 01 December 2009 Dear All- I post this link for your consideration and comment: http://www.yardlimits.com/forums/legal-news-announcements/18954-bringing-light-sense-dlc-process.html Take Care & Be Safe.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for Less than 1 year Posted: 01 December 2009 ZOMG Tony Ingram is retiring at the end of december

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 29 November 2009 Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 29 November 2009 Hey Other: "Furthermore were does your sense of entitlement come from? What are you owed?" Let me see..."The Great Society" perhaps you're old enough to remember? Welfare, food stamps, public housing, Social Security, WIC, aid to dependent children, unemployment insurance and the list goes on and on. Although most of these programs existed before 1964, they were all greatly expanded after Johnson's reforms and the advent of the "Great Society". Everyone over the age of 45, two maybe three generations, is a child of the "Great Society", that's a huge percentage of the U.S. population. Money talks and bullshit walks, so as long as there are politicians there will be entitlement programs. They may ebb and flow depending on which party is in power but like taxes entitlements are here to stay! ********************************************************************** Oh you are so correct with the above statement, and to that we are a demon of our own creation, and only getting worse in todays society of me first and something for nothing. No one has a good work ethic anymore and this was created by all of us who tried to provide for our families better than was provided for us! With all the programs that you mentioned above you as well as every one else are entitled to but, with that being said in the private work force what are you entitled to? Like I said before a paycheck? Thats it! I have had a pretty fortunate life provided by myself doing what is expected of me by myself and my family. This has been passed on to my children as well to create a sense of ownership in there future knowing that no one else is going to do it for you, so dont expect it. Sadly this is not the case in todays times everyone from GM to my neibores are looking for handouts. This has taken all of the accountability and responsibility out of the decisions we make making it easier to blame someone else when we fail. I sorry I dont by it. All this attitude does is allow some one else to pay for your mistakes. This also confirms my last post but because I speak of accountability and responsibility I could not possibly be right, its always some one else fault that you did something wrong or the decisions you made didnt work the way you planned Its time people stand up and are accounted for and stop crying about it.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 29 November 2009 Are you all really this pathetic? If you hate CSX this much really make a statement and quit. No; thats what I thought just a bunch of cowards bitching about a company that you work for, imagine that. I might not be seeing the whole picture here but I know enough about unionized work forces to know that you have it very well if you still have a paycheck in this economy were layoffs and furloughs are the norm these days. Furthermore were does your sense of entitlement come from? What are you owed? I dont work in your industry but a very similar field, were safety and on the job awareness is of the utmost importance, and if not respected in can have life ending consequences so safety is first and foremost your responsibility! With that being said back to my original questions what are you entitled to? What are you owed? Let me tell you so you dont hurt yourselves thinking about it..Its a paycheck, its that simple, if your work your entitled to get paid, that it. If your looking for someone to blame, I have an idea, blame yourselves. If you read this and listen this is true. When was the last union meeting you were at? Do you even know were the meetings are, on what day and when? This is how you are to blame, no participation in your own labor organization and there for your local officers are elected on a good olboys club way of doing things, they are in it for themselves and only themselves, but you put them in there. Do you understand how your General Chairman & Vice General Chairman are elected? Heres a hint by the people who are in the local positions that you elected. Now these people who are looking out for #1 and that isnt you have free rein to put in people just like themselves in the next level the labor organizations to which you pays dues, oh I almost forgot offices are probably right next to the companies main offices, correct? I wonder why that is, let me tell you because they can! Because you allow it! Because of your lack of interest in your own local, were you pay dues to, were you dont care what goes on at.. So back to what started this rant, just resign I am sure that will fix all of your problems at least with CSX it will. No you wont do that though; why; because they arent handing out 60-70K or more a year jobs every day, thats why! So bitch all you want to because most of you are just hypocrites coming on here to bitch at how bad you have it working for this company that gives you a paycheck so you can provide for yourself and your family. Thats right Im wrong, heres an idea, if its that bad were you are get up go look yourself in the mirror and blame him, then get involved locally and do something about it.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for N/A Posted: 28 November 2009 when are we gonna stop fighting each other? and start going after the railroads? do you know you can sue your officals in court for ? or make their personal lives miserable? hey? they wanna fuck with your job and your family ? lets start fucking with them? do it in a way no one will ever know? catch them in any act? go after them in your off time? dont stalk them but? well you get the idea ? you guys that are apes better wake up? officials are not your buddies

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 20 November 2009 your railroad is awful and i hope the stock holders rebel

Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years Posted: 19 November 2009 Why stick around after being snubbed by Buffett? The big dream must be over :( Chairman, President & CEO of CSX Corp. (CSX) Michael J Ward sells 100,000 shares of CSX on 11/17/2009 at an average price of $49.75 a share. http://www.gurufocus.com/news.php?id=76625 CSX Corporation's unique combination of rail, container-shipping, intermodal and logistics services provides global reach that's second to none. The company's goal, advanced at each of its business units, is to provide efficient, competitive transportation and related services for customers. Csx Corp. has a market cap of $19.62 billion; its shares were traded at around $50.02 with a P/E ratio of 16.7 and P/S ratio of 1.7. The dividend yield of Csx Corp. stocks is 1.8%. Csx Corp. had an annual average earning growth of 12.8% over the past 10 years. CSX is in the portfolios of Andreas Halvorsen of Viking Global Investors LP, Bill Gates of Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation Trust, Chuck Akre of Akre Capital Management, LLC, Kenneth Fisher of Fisher Asset Management, LLC, George Soros of Soros Fund Management LLC, David Dreman of Dreman Value Management, Jean-Marie Eveillard of Arnhold & S. Bleichroeder Advisers, LLC. Insiders' Positions with CSX Sell:: Chairman, President & CEO Michael J Ward sold 200,000 shares of CSX stock on 11/06/2009 at the average price of 47.5, the price of the stock has increased by 5.31% since Insiders' Positions with CSX Sell:: Executive VP & CFO Oscar Munoz sold 75,000 shares of CSX stock on 11/13/2009 at the average price of 49.02, the price of the stock has increased by 2.04% since Sell:: Executive VP & CFO Oscar Munoz sold 75,000 shares of CSX stock on 11/06/2009 at the average price of 48.01, the price of the stock has increased by 4.19% since Insiders' Positions with CSX Sell:: Executive VP & COO Tony L Ingram sold 25,000 shares of CSX stock on 11/13/2009 at the average price of 49, the price of the stock has increased by 2.08% since Sell:: Executive VP & COO Tony L Ingram sold 25,000 shares of CSX stock on 11/06/2009 at the average price of 48, the price of the stock has increased by 4.21% since Sell:: EVP and CCO Clarence W Gooden sold 35,000 shares of CSX stock on 10/27/2009 at the average price of 42.51, the price of the stock has increased by 17.67% since Sell:: EVP and CCO Clarence W Gooden sold 20,000 shares of CSX stock on 10/21/2009 at the average price of 47, the price of the stock has increased by 6.43% since Sell:: EVP and CCO Clarence W Gooden sold 20,000 shares of CSX stock on 10/19/2009 at the average price of 47, the price of the stock has increased by 6.43% since

Name: US Justice Department E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 17 November 2009 The following article is proof that millions of dollars in FELA (Railroad employee injury claim) do NOT go to the injured railroad worker - they go to GREASE THE GREEDY PALMS of the Unions, Railroads, and lawyers around the country. This is just the tip of the iceberg - it is NOT an 'isolated' incident.... railroad carriers, including CSX, spend BILLIONS a year on FELA claims, about 20 TIMES that spent by comparable state workers compensation (non-railraod FELA type) employee claims. It does not take a rocket scientist to see this payment imbalance is VASTLY out of whack. So, WHY IS THERE SUCH AN IMBALANCE OF PAYMENTS? What do FELA claims cost so much more than identical state claims? For every $100 a state system pays, FELA pays $2,000.00 For example, over the course of one year the UP paid out $5 Billion in FELA claims (yes, $1.5 billion!!), while state compensation programs with the same number of workers with the same injuries paid out $300 million - by any calculation, that difference is statistically IMPOSSIBLE - unless there is a MASSIVE KICKBACK PROGRAM in place and running smoothly wtihout interuption. Where does all that FELA money go - billions of dollars of overpayments between the four big railroad - UP, NS, BNSF, and CSX????? It sure doesn't go to the injured railroad workers. Railroad Managers, Directors and Executives in charge of administering FELA claims are in the absolute unchecked perfect position to take HUGE kickbacks from Unions, and from Union appointed FELA attorneys - everyone gets rich in this game....Unions get a kickback from FELA attorneys, FELA attorneys get pumped up settlement awards approved by railroad execs. Yes, you can bet that CSX FELA claims executive get kickbacks from both FELA attorneys and Union bosses. THIS IS WHY FELA CLAIM PAYMENTS ARE 20 TIMES HIGHER THAT STATE RUN WORKERS COMPENSATION PROGRAMS, and is why the Railroad 'system' will NEVER get rid of FELA - it is TOO DAMN LUCRITIVE FOR THE CROOKS TO GIVE IT UP - at the sole expense of the stockholder AND the injured railroad worker. For decades we have heard about how 'fake' railroad workers' injury claims have driven up the cost of FELA payments. Now you know its BULLSHIT!!!!!! The whole damn FELA system needs to be investigated and the crooks need to be cleaned out!! Here's the blurb posted earlier by Bubba. Trust me, the BLET president is NOT the only one getting rich off the FELA system - there are hundreds of others who are getting kickbacks too. If the BLET's president spills his guts to cut a deal, many more heads will roll - and you can bet it will include a cadre of union AND railroad executives as well as a boodle of corrupt lawyers... If you who are reading this know of similar illegal FELA kickback schemes, contact your local U.S. Department of Justice field office. **************************************************************** BLET PRESIDENT ARRESTED ON BRIBE CHARGE ( press release issued by U.S. Justice Department, Eastern District, St. Louis, Missouri). Edward W. Rodzwicz, president of the Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers and Trainmen, was arrested on a federal complaint charging him with bribery, Acting U.S. Attorney Michael W. Reap announced Oct. 13. Rodzwicz is the sitting president of the Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers and Trainmen (BLET), a national labor union with over 55,000 U.S.A. railroad members. It is a division of the International Brotherhood of Teamsters (IBT). According to affidavit filed with criminal complaint, BLET maintains a list of designated legal counsel (DLC), who are recommended to their membership to handle injury cases under the Federal Employers Liability Act (FELA). DESIGNATION AS A DLC GENERATES VERY LUCRITIVE BUSINESS FOR (UNION) DESIGNATED FELA ATTORNEYS. The national president of the BLET has final authority over the designation of FELA attorneys. In February 2009, an internal compliance committee recommended that a particular DLC attorney for the BLET should lose his designation, due to alleged violations of DLC Rules of Conduct. On March 10, 2009, Rodzwicz approached that attorney in Little Rock, Ark., and solicited a payment from that attorney in exchange for allowing him to retain his DLC designation. The DLC attorney contacted the Department of Labor, Office of Inspector General. In subsequent meetings at the attorney's office in St. Louis, and at Harrah's Casino, Las Vegas, Rodzwicz solicited and agreed to accept a cash payment of $10,000 from the attorney, plus the promise of an additional cash payment of $10,000 after Rodzwicz allowed him to retain his designation. Rodzwicz accepted a cash payment from the attorney on April 28, 2009, in Las Vegas, and he sent a letter allowing the attorney to retain his designation on May 1, 2009. He accepted a second cash payment of $10,000 from the attorney on Sept. 16, 2009, in Kansas City, Mo. The complaint was filed in the Eastern District of Missouri last week and remained suppressed until the arrest of Mr. Rodzwicz this morning by agents with the Department of Labor, Office of Inspector General, at his home in Avon, Ohio. Daniel R. Petrole, acting inspector general, U.S. Department of Labor, stated: "Union members expect that their officials will do what is right on their behalf. If these allegations are proven, there has been a serious breach of the union members' trust. My agency will continue to work with the U.S. Attorney's Office to investigate this type of crime." Rodzwicz, 63, was charged with one violation of 18 U.S.C. section 666, bribery in connection with a federally funded program; and one violation of 18 U.S.C. section 1952, interstate travel to carry on unlawful activity. He made his initial appearance this afternoon in Cleveland. If convicted, 18 U.S.C. section 666 carries a maximum penalty of ten years in prison and/or fines up to $250,000; 18 U.S.C. section 1952 carries a maximum penalty of five years in prison and/or fines up to $250,000. The charges set forth in a complaint are merely accusations, and the defendant is presumed innocent until and unless proven guilty. October 14, 2009. ********************************************************************

Name: Soon to retire E-mail: Employed as: Crew Dispatcher, for N/A Posted: 13 November 2009 I have spent a lot of time reading these posts! I am surprised to learn that many of us at CMC are oblivious to much of what happens to T&E! The T&E have my upmost respect for the demanding hours and job that they do. But, working the desk that I work, I must say I understand the frustration! Its frustrating for T&E when when some at CMC give you a hard time, but its also frustrationg for callers as well. We are constantly "monitored" I hate hearing that callers are to blame for many of the problems that T&E encounter! Many (not all I know) callers will help with what they can! But we are with our own limits as to what we are able to do. Doing someone a "favor" that is just not possible without getting a caller in hot water (sometimes suspension) is just not worth it. It gets frustrating for us when people "shoot" the boards just to avoid work! Or marks off sick just because they dont want to catch a certain train or dont want to work with who they are paired up with! After working an area so long you start to know whos who and what they do. Our job is to call the trains. when we delay them we have to answer as to why (to more than one person,) and that gets old quick! (Communication is NOT the strong suit of the company, as I am sure many of you know) Running the rosters is what we must do to try to get a crew for the train! If we dont "look" for people to work what we are delaying then thats a write-up for us! and after so many of those it goes to "counseling" and then sometimes an investigation! So yes getting a crew for a train is my #1 priority, its my job. And I am well aware that it gets aggravating for many to have their phones ringing all night! (I personally hate calling people that I know are asleep) I can go on and on here but any employee should understand what I mean. We are under a union contract just as the T&E are! A contract thats violated so often I cant keep up! To get days off the correct way is sometimes nearly impossible for us as well. Ive had to miss many family things due to that. So please try to remember that the callers are not there to "screw" anyone! We are not all bad! Please don't group us all as 1 in the same! Because I really cant think of anyone that I call that would say I am mean or disrespectful to anyone that calls in! I think most would say that I am helpful and try to get a resolution to any problems that one may have! I cant wait to see the responses I get to this! I look forward to reading them! Caller I

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 07 November 2009 Hey Wildman: Green Vests? Must be part of the CSX going green program! http://investors.csx.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=92932&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=1352353&highlight= http://investors.csx.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=92932&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=1346971&highlight=

Name: Wildman E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 07 November 2009 Anybody else seen the new green vests we're going to have to start wearing? They're supposed to keep us from getting run over by trains. I just wonder if the a green jacket will keep us any safer than just staying out from between the guage of the rails????????

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 1-10 years Posted: 04 November 2009 THE LOWDOWN ON THE DETROIT TRAINMASTERS RECENTLY ALL 5 TRAINMASTERS AT ROUGEMERE YARD IN DEARBORN MI WERE PLACED ON ADMINISTRATIVE LEAVE BY THE NORTHERN REGION MANAGER CINDY SANBORN. THE 4 WERE ACCUSED OF LETTING CREWS STEAL TIME, COVERING UP RUN THROUGH SWITCHES, DERAILMENTS AND INJURIES. AMONG THOSE ACCUSED WAS JIM HORNER, DETROITS TERMINAL MANAGER WHO IS ONE OF THE MOST RESPECTED OFFICIALS ON THE ENTIRE CSX SYSTEM BY BOTH T&E EMPLOYEES AS WELL AS OTHER OFFICIALS. LAST FRIDAY THEIR FATE WAS HANDED DOWN BY DIVISION MANAGER JEFF WHITE. MR. HORNER AS WELL AS TM GORDON WILSON WERE FORCED TO RETIRE WHILE TM JOE TUCKER WAS DEMOTED AND TM BOB BARNHARD WAS ALLOWED TO GO BACK TO CRAFT AS CONDUCTOR. THE 5TH TRAINMASTER JASON HARRIS WAS GIVEN A GOLDEN TICKET OUT OF THE DIVISION TO AVON INDIANA WHERE HE HAS WANTED TO GO SINCE ARRIVING AT DETROIT. SO WHY DID THE OTHER 4 GET FIRED AND NOT JASON YOU ASK, WELL MR HARRIS IS THE ONE WHO STARTED ALL OF THIS BY SQUEELING LIKE THE FAT PIG HE IS TO THE REGIONAL MANAGER ABOUT THE WRONG DOINGS IN DETROIT AND ABOUT HOW HE WAS TIRED OF HAVING HIS JOB THREATENED. MR HARRIS DID MORE COVERING UP THAN THE OTHER 4 TRAINMASTERS COMBINED, INCLUDING TAKING CASH FROM A CREW TO COVER UP A RUN-THROUGH SWITCH AND PERSONALLY COMPLETING TIME TICKETS FOR CREWS. MR.HARRIS SPENT THE MAJORITY OF HIS TIME IN DETROIT SHOPPING ON EBAY AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO ESCAPE THE DREADED CHICAGO DIVISION. THEN 2 MONTHS AGO WHILE AT A MANAGERS MEETING IN PHILADELPHIA HE DECEIDED TO OPEN HIS FAT MOUTH AND BETTER HIS CAREER BY RUINING THE CAREERS OF 4 OTHER MEN. THE CSXT MANAGMENT AND ESPECIALLY THOSE WITHIN THE NORTHERN REGION DID NOTHING TO INVESTIGATE MR HARRIS'S CLAIMS. IF THEY HAD THEY WOULD HAVE SEEN WHO THE REAL SHITBAG WAS AND SHOVED THE WHISTLE UP THE FAT WHISTLEBLOWERS ASS. SO IF YOU WORK IN OR OUT OF AVON YARD WATCH YOUR ASS. WHETHER YOUR A UNION EMPLOYEE OR AN OFFICIAL, BE CAREFUL BECAUSE JASON HARRIS WILL STEP ON YOU TO GET TO THE TOP. (OR EVEN JUST TO GET OUT OF YOUR DIVISION)

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 02 November 2009 anyone hear about csx employees stealing time in detroit, trainmasters and road forman getting fired also?

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 30 October 2009 Truth; And the name of the bald headed guy was??????????? OOPS guessed you missed that small part?

Name: TRUTH-NO LIES E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 28 October 2009 CSX Sux is the correct name for the local Russel, Kentucky roundhouse, Raceland Yards, and Huntington Repair Shop in Huntington, WV. The bald headed sucker that does the hiring really looks and acts like he is straight from Russia. He walks into interviews like he is being bothered to see you and thinks his shit don't stink. Unless your last name is one of his sucks your family will never have the opportunity to be able to work for the railroad. Experience and schooling does not mean anything with CSX in the Tri-State Area of Ashland, ky / Ironton, Ohio / and Huntington, Wv. I hope the Russian gets his one day as all people do. The railroad in our area really sux as they have leaks in tank cars in the Raceland yard and causes business to shut down and don't bother to pay the local businees employees or loss of busniess due to their stupdiness and no concern for human life. The big shot Mr. Russian bald head run around like he was trying to hide the mess he created. The local news media did let it get out after people in the local cities of raceland, worthington, and wurtland was evacuated and local business was close. SHAME ON CSX for not leaving a man in control of this area of the railroad who has no concern for the people living in the area near the railroad. I have lived here for 56 years and it is the worst I have ever seen it. CSX REALLY DOES SUCK!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 23 October 2009 RRJ, Now listen up numnuts, I have told you before and need to tell you again. I am going no where, not in your lifetime will I ever go away. Now you said you were no longer going to respond, which I found thrilling, but what do you do, exactly the opposite of what you said that you would do. Your level of drivel too many times goes unchallenged by those that do not know or do not care, well that is not me Hoggy. I would never tell You to go away, nor would I tell You to stop posting. It would be nice! however that is your choice not mine. Now go to bed and finishing licking on those wounds, and read your Agreement and write that red board insurance check, mail it to me and you will have the same Protection.

Name: Red E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 21 October 2009 Hey Russell Conductor, I woundnt be worried about the restriction of senority of on Russell I2 jobs at Hinton, I would be worried about why their putting your jobs on at some place other then your home terminal! Makes a lot of since for the company to add jobs at terminal 167 miles away from your home. They are hoping you Russell guys dont take them. That way both Hinton and Russell crews lose and CSX wins like always.

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 21 October 2009 Goob You stating I but in on post not directed towards me is like the "Pot calling the kettle black". You disect just about every post on here when you haven't a damn clue or nothing to contribute except spewing your garbage which has never made any sense. Go on to some website where you belong like "How many people when I was a vendor did I kill selling cigarettes?".

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 21 October 2009 You're still a pussy arse quitter. Now a days you want to be part of something you voluntarily decided to quit. You never worked for CSX. So why do you bother us with your dribbling garbage? Cigarette Boy.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 20 October 2009 Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 17 October 2009 Goob I'm not going to debate anything with you anymore. It doesn't matter. Your love of disecting every post has gotten old. You don't have much to say. I'm sorry you hired on in a transitional period when diesal electric locomotives were introduced and congress agreed with the railroads to do away with the firemen for a few years. You made your choice to not come back. I've worked with a lot of engineers who went through that time period they either moved to work for other railroads or stuck it out till they could return. Those who trained me to become an engineer started out on steam locomotives it was a privilage to know these men. Those are memories no one can take away. They were true dedicated railroaders. I never sat on the left side and waved out the window an entire trip. I fired for a great engineer for over 4 years that we split the run 50/50 who taught me to respect running trains because if you don't have total control it can control you. Besides who are you to judge you never fired on steam.XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX RRJ, What makes you think that your info is better than anyone else, heck man do not respond, that would be a good thing. I noticed when I reply to someone not named RRJ here you come with one more opinion, when you have not even understood the question. There was no transition from steam to diesel in the early 1960's numbnuts, the units we had were worn out. I did not leave the RR when the Fireman left. I went to the ground, for another 5 1/2 years and ran without them. I ran more as a head brakeman than I ever did as a fireman. It was called getting over the road. I can also tell you that when I left the RR in march of 1970 many Engineers had steam firing experience, but only a few had been issued a steam locomotive for revenue service. Getting a regular job with the same engineer for 4 years is a wonderful thing, don't know how a young transferred every year Fireman without a fire could get that done. As far as Firing steam-- a real (not like you) Engineer that had done it for years told me that I would never be on the RR if it was the same as it was when he was Firing. I told him-- you are right I would never do it. Now go back to bed and lick your wounds.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 19 October 2009 October 18, 2009 & CSX still SUCKS! Cheap Skate Xpress

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 18 October 2009 Anybody know why they are restictin Russell senority on the I2 pooles at Hinton when the contract clearly says Russell men have first rights to them. Labor Relations told me that there is a magic number on the roster and that number is 2214 so if you younger than than your not allowed to mark up on them but if your older you can. What the hell, does senority even matter who cares if I'm younger thatn that if a older man wants the job then he will kick me.

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 17 October 2009 Goob I'm not going to debate anything with you anymore. It doesn't matter. Your love of disecting every post has gotten old. You don't have much to say. I'm sorry you hired on in a transitional period when diesal electric locomotives were introduced and congress agreed with the railroads to do away with the firemen for a few years. You made your choice to not come back. I've worked with a lot of engineers who went through that time period they either moved to work for other railroads or stuck it out till they could return. Those who trained me to become an engineer started out on steam locomotives it was a privilage to know these men. Those are memories no one can take away. They were true dedicated railroaders. I never sat on the left side and waved out the window an entire trip. I fired for a great engineer for over 4 years that we split the run 50/50 who taught me to respect running trains because if you don't have total control it can control you. Besides who are you to judge you never fired on steam.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 16 October 2009 RRJ, Without me you would be running Rampant. Collecting dues, selling red board insurance,espounding on you many years of service from 1977. How hard Firemen worked in the early years of 1977, how tough it was when you had to drive a few miles to sit on the left side and sleep. Bet not one trainman asked you if you backed up to get your check on payday. You were not the tough guy that faced all of the forces, you were simply the go along guy, leaving was real work, so you took the easy way, sit and look out the window and wave at the folk's. Now you are the advisor for those that are looking for a free hand out, bless your heart,,, say a prayer for everyone???? BURPPPPPPPPPPPPPP Whew that was GOOD

Name: RAD E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years Posted: 16 October 2009 When i hired on it was CONRAIL, It seemd to me they had a inside way of hiring people as i never seen a ad in a paper for railroad workers, Never!!! I got on when i was 18, I knew this one station agent so i went down there and talked to him, He made a phone call to someone in the main office who i don,t know, But when he got off the phone he said go to the main office the next day and get a physical exam, Yup that quick and when i went down there they had a big sighn on the front door, NO APPLICATIONS BEING TAKEN!!! As soon as i told them who i was It was stright to the company dr for the physical & x-rays, I filled out the paper work AFTER THE PHYSICAL EXAM!!!! I also got to know this one hogger very well, He had 4 sons and all of them got jobs on the railroad, So he must have known some one in upper managment very good too although he never did mention that to me over the years i knew and worked with him,, I am sure some will say this was a unfair way to hire people, But that is the way they did it back then, Perhaps the company thought it was a better way to get a more dedicated person for railroad work????? If anyone remembers getting hired this way i sure would like to hear about it as i do assume the former B&O did it this way too???

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 14 October 2009 Goob That's right Goob. You hit the nail on the head. You win. Now go away.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 13 October 2009 Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 11 October 2009 Goob What an assinine reply. Don't ever talk about my father. That's pretty low which doesn't surprise me coming from you. I didn't need to get another job Goob. I stuck it out through the badtimes. You decided to separate from the railroad now do us a favor and separate yourself off this website.XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX I really hate to post behind my last post. That say's I was not thinking on the first post. I have no choice --RRJ brings out the best in me. RRJ your Dad is the same as all that have left for cause, and because as you say they were not able to stand up to the job, and be tough like you and make a living from traveling around the system, and being a real man. He is the same as you are always saying I am. I really tried to be nice the last time or two, however as it stands today, you are on the hook and looking for a way out. Same as you always do. It is a good thing that you are tough, because stupid goes rite along with you like a suit for friday night. Face it your DAD was a Quitter, a spilled milk spoiled brat, a union enemy,Foamer, nobill, worthless RR person, that really needed to go and get an Electric train. I think he was at sears buying that Electric train when he called home and got a male voice out of breath. A fireman was conceived, and went to work for a nice price riding around on a switcher in 1977 When the Fireman was GONE. Amazing Tough-- you are nothing, just a csx sucking employee if that. Now blow the whistle that the CSX gave you to blow, fatass. Remember to follow the light.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 13 October 2009 RRJ, Not on Your Life. Now go back to sleep, and lick your wounds. GOOB

Name: dillweed E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 12 October 2009 CSX sucks almost as bad as the Unions that they own. I don't care if it is BLE or UTU- they both suck CSX D. and they both screw the Union members. I guess the RR used to be a decent job. Those days are long gone by. With the FRA hos laws in place, they have pretty much capped our pay. F all the BS.

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 11 October 2009 Goob What an assinine reply. Don't ever talk about my father. That's pretty low which doesn't surprise me coming from you. I didn't need to get another job Goob. I stuck it out through the badtimes. You decided to separate from the railroad now do us a favor and separate yourself off this website.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 10 October 2009 Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 08 October 2009 Goob I was partially correct you stated you got screwed over. So what if someones kid or grandson got the job first. I dealt with the same bullschidt in 1977 because I didn't have family on the railroad. Past few years I did learn my grandfather was a railroader and my father worked for the railroad for a short stint after WWII. You just want to cry over spilled milk that's why you post on here. You're just a foamer if you quit without good reason. Which you came out with the truth you quit over splilled milk.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Jim you are always 100% correct. No contest! However once again the RR did me a favor, pissed me off a little and I had enough going to seek other employment, and that my friend you LACK. Call it whatever you want, I am glad that I left. I follow the RR and still stop to watch every chance I get. Just awsome power that I enjoy watching. As far as the history comments, I have a very good memory of my time on the RR and Every post has been honest and up front, some of which do not mesh with your lack of experience. That is not to say I am correct and you are not, it simply means different states and RR worked differently. You are so blinded by the UNION and your own experience that you think everyone is full of Shit except you. you are insecure and constantly seek attention on every section, at every opportunity. I hope that you can see your way to get the help that you need. Guess your DAD was a Foamer, couldn't take the work, was not tough enough to stand up, spend most of his time crying over spilled milk ETC ETC See how stupid your comments are. I am sure the your DAD was a fine person and left for cause.

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 10 October 2009 The ones that'll get hurt are the independent truckers. A lot of trucking companies are looking to get their containers shipped by rail then pick up and deliver short hauls. A lot of people in the finacial sector are predicting oil prices to escalate in the next few years back up to $140+ a barrel. What we saw last year was only the tip of the iceberg.

Name: Wildman E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 09 October 2009 I had a thought today,the CSX comercials on TV talk about how much fuel can be saved by shipping by rail.They also like to go on about how many trucks can be removed from the road by the same method. I wonder if CSX is trying to anger the truck drivers in the Teamsters union so just maybe they won't help the BLET in contract negotiations????? Conspiracy theory or just CSX trying to get an edge?????? Maybe nothing at all. Oh well,that's what the aliens told me anyway.

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 08 October 2009 Goob I was partially correct you stated you got screwed over. So what if someones kid or grandson got the job first. I dealt with the same bullschidt in 1977 because I didn't have family on the railroad. Past few years I did learn my grandfather was a railroader and my father worked for the railroad for a short stint after WWII. You just want to cry over spilled milk that's why you post on here. You're just a foamer if you quit without good reason. Which you came out with the truth you quit over splilled milk.

Name: Binheer2long E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 07 October 2009 Just checking to be sure I had not been blocked! And yes, it is a hell of a lot nicer to have room to discuss the issues without all the BS-- thanks, webmaster!!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 07 October 2009 I noticed today, a lot of BS is missing from the section posts. Looks like the web person is as tired of it as I am. Nice job GOOBER

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 07 October 2009 Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 06 October 2009 NoMo Touche'!!!! You might have a point. His hatred for the unions might lead to the conclusion that he screwed up and the union couldn't get him back to work. I never thought of that one. Goob has been anti-union since he's been on this site. I know you've been through that with your own situation where you could of returned to work if you cowtowed to the carriers demands.============================================== XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Man you Imagine so much, try to read between the lines, and are never even close to being correct. Just as info I paid my due's to the BLF&E at a meeting in april of 1964 when the Big Dog's were there to tell me the Firemen were on the RR to stay for the long term. I got my severence letter the next month. Yep I am still not happy with that screw ball deal. I got screwed a lot, but I also screwed them a little as time went on.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 07 October 2009 Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 05 October 2009 Hey Goober: I Shouldn't be so quick to judge. Perhaps you can enlighten us upon how you and the L&N deparrted ways. Yes the unions suck...evedently they sucked back in '71 also, when you left the employment of the L&N. We all have a story... what's yours?================================= XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Not a problem at all my friend. I paid up just like the rest did, just not as often. We had payroll deductions in the 1960's I refused to do it. I paid by check monthly, and for cause would not pay. I left the RR with no issues, no carpet, or street time. Fireman, Brakeman, Flagman, Promoted Conductor. I left the RR when the Apprentice Engineer program started with 3 Trainmen that were related to existing employees. Yes they were son's grandson's etc. I quit. And that is the story. I always wanted to Run, got screwed and went on my way. Now had I been a little more mature I would have had my own crew and the opportunity to get in the program within 3 years. At 25- 3 years is an eternity. Now you have the story.

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 06 October 2009 NoMo Touche'!!!! You might have a point. His hatred for the unions might lead to the conclusion that he screwed up and the union couldn't get him back to work. I never thought of that one. Goob has been anti-union since he's been on this site. I know you've been through that with your own situation where you could of returned to work if you cowtowed to the carriers demands.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 05 October 2009 Hey Goober: I Shouldn't be so quick to judge. Perhaps you can enlighten us upon how you and the L&N deparrted ways. Yes the unions suck...evedently they sucked back in '71 also, when you left the employment of the L&N. We all have a story... what's yours?

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 05 October 2009 Hey Goober: You remind of my wife ... Shut the fuck up...bitch!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 05 October 2009 Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 30 September 2009 Hey Nothing: Unfortunately today that is the rule rather than the exception with all large corporations. They know whose nephew, son or cousin is getting hired before the job is ever advertised. The dog and pony show is for the EEOC's benefit. As for the testing...it's a sad commentary on the state of our schools when HS and college graduates have to be tested on basics just to wear a blue collar! XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Total BS why??? I have no idea? Dreaming, and Blaming as usual! The real time Dog and Pony show is at the UTU/ BLE site's They are blowing good smoke and taking the cash every day. One day ???? There will be no suckers to suck from.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 05 October 2009 God Bless America. APE are you kidding me, yourself, or Others. Did you ever wonder how the local church gives away the Cadillac for a hole in one on the 4th tee. INSURANCE ---hell they are like the red board insurance they never pay. Keep on switching, and leave the running of the company to those that have a clue!

Name: Dead Peasant E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years Posted: 04 October 2009 http://jonathanturley.org/2009/02/25/peasant-uprising-widow-sues-late-husbands-employer-over-dead-peasant-insurance-policy/ "the employer of her late husband Daniel Johnson was to receive $1.6 million after his death under a practice known in the industry as a dead peasant insurance policy. Under this common practice, employers take out life insurance on employees and write off the payments as a business expense. They then collect a windfall when one of the peasants die." CSX do this?

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 04 October 2009 Talking about stocks...I find this interesting! http://www.fool.com/investing/value/2009/09/29/7-stocks-that-could-cause-permanent-losses.aspx

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 03 October 2009 The answer is buy quality stocks in well run companies...there are plenty out there...you might consider convertibles or options depending on your risk tolerance; which should become less the closer you get to retirement. Any thing you do will be subject to market fluctuations but they can be mitigated with careful planning, good advice and patience. The Dow is up 3000 points since it hit bottom a year ago when it was grossly over bought. It will break new ground in the next 18-24 months!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 03 October 2009 All the railroad stocks dropped not just CSX. If you bought in at $29 you should hold it for a few more years. The recession isn't over it's got a few more years to go. You bought in a good price then again if I was retired I don't know what I'd do definitely be very conservative. Problem is where to reinvest with a market that is fluctuating from one extreme to the other.

Name: Shame on you CSX E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 02 October 2009 Dear CSX management, I have resigned my postion with you. I know my traimasters, and the corporation could care less. When a drunk traimaster with as erious problem calls you on your rest day at 3 am to yell at you, not once but twice, It time to consdir leaving. I made my decision after a terminal manager back the traimaster and not me. There is not one supervisor that has a spine at CSX. I ueuss when you go to TM school, you sign a release to relinquish your mind, heart, and soul. Oh and any compassion you might have. That is why I left. In 9 years of working there, not once was I given a thank you. I used my cell phone to move my train. I showed up early to make sure that my conductor and I had proper paperwork. I did not get paid for that time, It was my choice.I did everything safely, and on time. I understand the unions are deep in your pockets and vise versa. You say you want us to work by safety rules everyday. Then you send spies to watch us. So, the company doesn't trust its employees to do the right thing. God forbide if you do something out of the ordinary. The spies don't tell you, just send a letter. In my records, I was observed on days I didn't work and failed some obscure rule. That's your trainmasters, RFE's setting the example. Tm's will lie about on time departures, as I have personally been late leaving the terminal, only to find out, on paper I was on time. Once there was a 2 hour difference. I have no respect for liars and the thieves in the union. They have sold everything I and many men before me worked hard for. The BLE and UTU have made secret handshakes behind closed doors. Top union officals are elected and don't have a pot to piss in. Funny when they leave they are very very wealthy. I wonder why? and how that can be. Between management,the unions, they have taken every thing from me. But they didn't take my soul, work ethic, and morals. Thats all I have left, my own morals, work ethic and self repect.CSX has tried to take all that away from me and others. I refuse to compromise. I have no idea what I will do. All I know is i have moved on. I am trying very hard to get the taste of crap that CSX tried to shove down me. I thank the good people that took time to show me how to railroad. I will never forget them. The rest of you, I hope there is a special place in hell for you. I have seen the hell at called CSX, and therefore I say goodbye.

Name: retired E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 02 October 2009 look out csx stock went up too much too fast from $20.70 to $48.00 now it has droped to $42.00. IF YOU GOT IN WHEN IT WAS LOW THEN TAKE SOME PROFIT. I HAVE BEEN AROUND A LONG TIME AND SEEN THIS HAPPEN IT JUST MAY DROP ON TO THE MIDDLE 30 DOLLOR RANGE.AS SOON AS CSX REPORTS THEIR EARNING THE STOCK WILL DROP MORE.LAST YEAR WHEN IT WAS $60.00 I SAID SELL THEN AT $50.00 AND AGAIN AT $45.00 I GOT BACK IN AT $29.00 I am now a seller took my profit just lucky .too much stock given to Ward and his board.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 30 September 2009 Hey Nothing: Unfortunately today that is the rule rather than the exception with all large corporations. They know whose nephew, son or cousin is getting hired before the job is ever advertised. The dog and pony show is for the EEOC's benefit. As for the testing...it's a sad commentary on the state of our schools when HS and college graduates have to be tested on basics just to wear a blue collar!

Name: Thanks for Nothing E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 29 September 2009 There is a lot of truth in this site. I tried for over a year to get a career started with CSX through two testing sessions and two job interviews. The jobs was for the Russell roundhouse and the Russell yard. Both were a waste of my time and theirs as it was all a put on for the public. Mr. Skinhead (the top management offical) was very obnoxious and acted as if he was retarded. During the interviews he acted like it was a bother for him to be there. Of course it was as he knew who was going to get the jobs. The very people that are complaining about working. I was willing to work any shift any hour and start with a forward look to a new career with responsibility. But instead I was treated like I was a crimminal and wasting his time for showing up to take a test he probably can't pass and never saw as he probably had the inside track for his job. I was at first disppointed that I didn't get a career to enjoy but after I found out how the positions were filled I jumped with joy. Whoever you knew the most in top management at CSX got you the job, not on your skills that could be used for the commpany's interest. Well Mr. Skinhead I hope you enjoy the people you hired and get everything coming to you. I hope the company sees the truth in you and puts you on skidrow where you belong. No wonder people are complaining if all CSX management likes the look of you.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 29 September 2009 I think he meant to say involuntarily!

Name: Lord SuckaLot E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years Posted: 24 September 2009 sorry, lefty, but I have voluntarily exiled myself to the Executive Men's room on Water Street in Jackassville. YOu will have to pick your suck heisman winner out of a bottle of vodka. Cheers. Lord SuckaLot P.S. I know a good lawyer - barks like a dog and fetches dollar bills.

Name: Lefty E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years Posted: 24 September 2009 Lord suck. Can you give us some suck heisman hopefuls like jack vierlings reach Round move he does for frulla or let's see how about rob brownells keg stand at the Csx safety stand down. Woops forgot what they told me about drinking and driving ......... Mr pendergrass what are those blue lights flashing for ? Is thAt a breThaluzer or are they just glad ro see me

Name: Madman E-mail: Employed as: M of W, for 20-30 years Posted: 23 September 2009 OK! I see you like to my screen name. I wonder if you are Man enough to come out and give us your real name! You can play all the games you want, but you are starting to bore the he'll out of me. I am starting to beleive this is Suckassalot that is using my name. After all only he would come up with constant anal penetration. Come on now GET A LIFE! Go play with Bonzo your wife and use your own screen name! You are nothing but a Fucking loser- What Happened to you while you were growing up? I wonder that your mother didn't give you the hugs & kisses, did she spike you on the floor like a football or did she let your father, uncles and their friends & neighbors molest you! I could go on but your not even worth it, life is short just like yourself with nobody wants to be your friend you are what other people would call a No Life Hermit. What is your pupose in life? Why do you choose to try & Fuck with my name and post your Bullshit! Forget it you FUCKING JUNGLE CRICKET!

Name: Madman E-mail: Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years Posted: 23 September 2009 Good Morning Ladies and Gentlemen. We here at CSX do really not appreciate your concerns of Safety, Behaviors of Train Masters, and other Supervision Personnel. I am going to launch a missle into these concerns. I have also created a more aggressive team of Nazi Investigators headed by the recreated Home Office of the Mobile Officer I. (HOMO I). This Office will Investigat all the Claims that were posted here and forward the results to the proper Personnel for interrogation and torture, and will stick a spike up your ass. HOMO I will also Ignore all alledged white collar crime and thoroughly investigate all union thefts that have been increasing of CSX Property. There will be a change of Command so there will be total confusion such the CSX Police will no longer fall under Stupidity and Lackies- They will be deployed under the new name of Honor Organization Mobile Offfice II (HOMO II) Units this Unit will fall under the Un-enforcement Arm of HOMO I. The Newly created HOMO I Office of the HOMO II mployees are Sworn Nazi Enforcement Whores of Transporation Surrogates (NEWTS) Federal Commishoned Special Agents. I must inform all Employees that the Newly created Office is unlike the CSX Police. They are Naked Homo Special Agents they can be Identified by their issued Fig Leaves and rusty spikes just for Suckassalot. If encountered by a Naked Agent you are to give full compliance (bend over) or face formal Discipline Charges. The Office of the HOMO will also Investigate all baseless Threats, Racial Descrimination, Etc. CSX has an absolute Tolerence Policy for Work Place Violence, Racial Discrimination and Sexual Fornication. All Reports, including videos and pictures, will be forwarded to myself for my personal private review and will be dealt with accordingly. This can or will lead up to Promotion and Six Sigma training for any managment personnel, and Termination and Criminal Charges on any union employee violators. The Selection Process has already started with a few members in here by utilyzing their Information Provided and their Home HTML Connections, such as NoMo, RRJ, Lloyd, Suckassalot, Sam the Slave, Binheer2long, Goober, and many others. I am Pleased to Provide an Extra layer of Protection on our Dedicated Managers and Supervisors, and stick spikes up the asses of jackoffs like suckassalot. I would like to Thank You for taking out time to read this Announcement. Have a very Safe Day. M. Ward All stupid Employees are Required to have your CSX Idetification visable at all times while on Company Property.

Name: Mike Ward E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years Posted: 23 September 2009 Good Morning Ladies and Gentlemen. We here at CSX do really appreciate your concerns of; Safety, Behaviors of Train Masters, and other Supervision Personnel. I am going to launch a Investigation into these concerns. I have also created a more aggressive team of Investigators headed by the recreated Office of the Inspector General (OIG). This Office will Investigat all the Claims that were posted here and forward the results to the proper Personnel. The Office of the Inspector General (OIG) will also Investigate all alledged white collar crime as well as Thefts that have been increasing of CSX Property. There will be a chain of Command so there will be no confusion such the CSX Police will no longer fall under Security and Safety- They will be deployed under the new name of Mobile Tactical Units this Unit will fall under as the Enforcement Arm of the Office of the Inspector General (OIG). The Newly created Office of the Inspector General(OIG) Employees are Sworn Law Enforcement Officials (LEO) Federal Commishoned Special Agents. I must inform all Employees that the Newly created Office is unlike the CSX Police. They are Plain Clothed Special Agents they can be Identified by their issued Credentials and Badge. If encountered by a Special Agent you are to give full compliance or face formal Discipline Charges. The Office of the Inspector General(OIG) will also Investigate all Threats, Racial Descrimination, Etc. CSX has a Zero Tolerence Policy for Work Place Violence and Racial Discrimination. All Reports will be forwarded to myself for review and be dealt with accordingly. This can or will lead up to Termination and Criminal Charges on any violators. The Selection Process has already started with a few members in here by utilyzing their Information Provided and their Home HTML Connections. I am Pleased to Provide an Extra layer of Protection on our Dedicated Employees. I would like to Thank You for taking out time to read this Announcement. Have a very Safe Day. M. Ward All Employees are Required to have your CSX Idetification visable at all times while on Company Property.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 22 September 2009 Hey Goober: You're right! But don't let that go to your head...or I'll swear that Madman made me say it with his big spike;)

Name: Lord SuckaLot E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years Posted: 22 September 2009 Sir Goober, I totally agree with your analysis of the site situation. Strange young folk's have indeed invaded this site and they seem to be here for thrills and childish behavior. Yes, we should reply only to singles with information, and then only request relevant information such as name, rank, address, physical measurements, and telephone numbers. I too think relationships on here should be non sexual - but remember the famous words of President Bill Clinton - sucking jism out of a penis is NOT having sex. We up here in the CSX HQ suites who have non-sexual professional relationships with our secretaries totally agree with that way of thinking. How else do you get a name like "CSX SUCKS"? It's all in how you look at it. Just my 2cents. Lord SuckaLot, CSX Executive Handmaiden to God

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 22 September 2009 Strange young folk's have invaded this site. They are seeking feedback from anyone, they can stir up. The only way to recoup the site is to reply only to single posters, that contain information, request, opinions, or other relavent non sexual, non threating, statements. Just my 2cents. GOOBER

Name: Wildman E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 22 September 2009 Well it looks like we have another "Boggs" in here! I'll bet this Lord Suckalot isn't an employee with anyone let alone CSX. Now for the test. What is the operating rule at the top of page fifty? Who is the VP of Mechanical Operations? Who is the Division Manager of the Great Lakes? Boggs left us because he was uncovered (like we didn't already know) as a fraud this way,how long can you last?

Name: Lord SuckaLot E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years Posted: 20 September 2009 Monkey Boys, Get a grip on reality, eat some boogers like all the other good chimps, and stop complaining about your excellent working conditions, you ungrateful slobs. You can always refuse to do something that is unsafe - but sucking up as a CSX employee is the safest thing of all to do (aside from getting crabs, herpes and aides, and the best part: IT IS REQUIRED. To hell with it. Suck it all, I say. Sucking is a way of life on CSX. Get use to it. I did. Sorry, the FRA will not suck you off. They are too busy sucking their own. That is all. You may stand 'at ease' now my little monkey boys. Yours truly with love and understanding the CSX Kung Foo Way, Your friend and companion forever, and ever, Lord SuckaLot CSX Executive Handmaiden to God.

Name: Madman E-mail: Employed as: M of W, for 20-30 years Posted: 19 September 2009 HELLO, HELLO! Safety Strike , Nomo & Others ! Have you even read what I POSTED! Damn you guys are Ignorant or Blind! I have said that we do have the right to REFUSE! Any job that can or will put us in harms way! We are all Granted this Right under the FRA. Why are we bitching when there is a route there already! The Company can not retaliate against you! Once you excercise you right to Refuse! No.1, Document the Situation and have witnesses sign it. If no witness is there then document it yourself! Try to Excersise this right with the proper Supervision! If nothing is done then Report it to the FRA! Point Blank This is our Rights that you may not know of or the Company hides from you! I am tired of hearing the Bitching! We have our Rights so let's use them! The Company can tell us 1 Thing but it is up to the FRA that throws in the Final Ruling!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 18 September 2009 HOMOPHOBIC BIGOTRY....

Name: Madman E-mail: Employed as: M of W, for 20-30 years Posted: 18 September 2009 Hey Suckassalot, The only thing I would like to scream is YOU when I find out who you are! A Bitch can run but can't hide forever. Your name will be found out & I will be more than happy to share it here! Your days are running out you Bitch Ass Homo.

Name: Lord SuckaLot E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years Posted: 17 September 2009 Monkey Boys, Your next assignment: http://www.stinalisa.com/HokeyPokey.html Love and Kisses, Lord SuckaLot CSX Executive Handmaiden to God

Name: Madman E-mail: Employed as: M of W, for 20-30 years Posted: 17 September 2009 How I would love to drive a spike between the eyes of suckassalot! There is only word to describe sirsuckassalot & that is 100% LOSER! Too much time on his hands to be any kind of Employee! So here is some words of advice you, Monkey! Sit back & read but don't post you should enjoy it while you choke on a banana! Turn red & blue then just Die! You will not be missed at all. Nobody ever misses an asshole such as yourself! I wonder are you enjoying yourself or are you really that bored? It's time to seperate the Idiots from the Men! How could you call yourself a real man, after all you admit that you are a Flaming Homo! I guess your mother is proud of her long lost little girl! Now I must admit I was against abortions but after reading your posts you are mainly 1 that escaped! This dosen't at all excuse you! Please just let me find out who you are, I will eventually find out it dosen't take a rocket scientist either. A Monkey that you are will try to avoid detection after all that's a Monkey's natural defense. You are definetly overdue for a confrontation! I don't care what you try to respond back with. A mind is a shameful thing to waste, but as we can tell your mind is Gone! Now as for a comeback it is way to late! Once a Retard always a Retard that there is no if's or but's about it. So go Fuck Your own Monkey Ass! Obey this as if were M. Wards Directive. Remember Managers like to obey & not to disapoint a Directive, you are sure a run in a mil along with the other Suck Ups in Management!

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 16 September 2009 This was posted on the UTU web site yesterday: Alaska Railroad schedules beer train The Alaska Railroad will offer the Great Alaska Beer Train Oct. 3, a refreshing ride along Alaskas scenic Turnagain Arm, reports the Los Angeles Times. The 4 1/2-hour round-trip journey between Anchorage and Portage includes six half-pints of microbrew beer and appetizers by Anchorages Glacier BrewHouse. BrewHouse beer menu standards include Brewhouse Blonde and Oatmeal Stout. Also on the railroads horizon is the Blues Train, Sept. 26 and 27, which will travel round trip from Anchorage to Seward and include lunch, appetizers, barbecue dinner, two drink tickets and one nights hotel stay, as well as blues entertainment, of course. The Great Alaska Beer Train costs $149 per person; Blues Train costs $249 per person based on double occupancy (for hotel). (The preceding article was published by the Los Angeles Times.) September 14, 2009 This was posted today on the same site: Alaska Railroad plans significant layoffs ANCHORAGE, Alaska - The Alaska Railroad Corp., faced with dwindling revenues in recent years, is preparing to lay off an estimated one-fifth of its work force in an attempt to rein in costs, according to a memo sent to employees by its chief executive, the Daily News reports. In the Aug. 31 e-mail, Patrick Gamble tells employees that revenues are falling rapidly and that, without immediate action, the state-owned business will lose millions next year in train operation costs. He says railroad officials are studying ways to run more efficiently, but that's not going to be enough. "There would also need to be a significant reduction in funded manpower positions across the railroad, estimated by me to be about 20%," Gamble wrote. "I directed those position reductions to be finalized and ready for approval as quickly as possible. "Let me be very clear. The financial condition of the Alaska Railroad is seriously threatened by the economic downturn of profitable business and the future holds no promise of a quick reversal." In a January report to the state, the railroad reported it employed 715 year-round employees. Railroad spokesman Tim Thompson said that number holds roughly true today, though seasonal hires bring up the workforce to between 800 and 850. A 20 percent cut applied only to year-round employees would mean about 143 layoffs. Thompson said Friday that no decisions had been made regarding the exact number of employees to be laid off or from what departments they would come. Railroad executives were not taking questions on the matter, he said. An employee newsletter posted to the railroad's Web site Friday afternoon said the corporation has already eliminated nearly 100 positions through hiring freezes and attrition since fall 2007. "We've made a lot of cuts and we're obviously into the meat," said Jeff Davies, president of Alaska Railroad Workers, the railroad's largest union. "There's no doubt that the positions that are being vetted right now are positions that are needed." Davies and other union officials said they were still waiting to hear how deep the cuts would be and from where they would come. The employee newsletter indicated the railroad board of directors would meet Wednesday to discuss final position reductions. The cuts will be implemented after an Oct. 2 meeting and be completed by the end of the year, the newsletter says. In a report to the state prepared by the railroad in January, Gamble characterized 2008 as "highly challenging" for the business. Cargo shipped by trailers and containers dipped 12 percent and associated barge-rail tonnage declined 16 percent from 2007. In an Aug. 20 e-mail to employees, Gamble says decreases in tourism have pulled down passenger revenue "to a point well below what our original conservative budget estimates were for 2009." And the Flint Hills petroleum refinery in North Pole, the railroad's largest customer, has also continued to drop production in recent years, he wrote. Earlier this year, the refinery announced it had shut down one of three processing units at the North Pole refinery because of lower demand. It reopened in May but was again closed in August because of lack of demand, Flint Hills spokesman Jeff Cook said Friday. The refinery employs about 175 people, Cook said. The refinery provides just over 50 percent of the jet fuel used at Anchorage Ted Stevens International Airport, he said. Fuel shipments between North Pole and Anchorage account for about 35 percent of overall railroad revenue, Thompson said. At its peak in 2003, the railroad was hauling more than 800 million gallons of petroleum products from the refinery. Next year, the railroad is expecting to move about 400 million gallons. In his memo, Gamble said the corporation will suffer between $10 million and $12 million in losses from train operations alone in 2010 unless it takes immediate steps to cut expenses. While running trains is by far its main business, the railroad also brings in money from its real estate and federal grants. "It is therefore imperative that the Railroad act without hesitation to cut more of its overall expenses, and those cuts must unfortunately include one of our largest areas of corporate expenditure -- personnel," Gamble wrote. The railroad reported a $13 million profit in 2008 and in January projected a $16.8 million profit for this year. According to the employee newsletter, railroad officials are now expecting to bring in a profit of $10 million this year. The newsletter addresses the question of why layoffs are needed when the company is still turning a profit. "Corporate net income is an indicator of financial health, but it does not mean a pile of extra cash exists at the end of the year," Chief Financial Officer Bill O'Leary is quoted as saying. "Rather, every cent of revenues in excess of expenses (i.e. net income) is used year-round to invest in capital, pay debts and contribute to employee benefit funds. Without net income, the railroad would be in very bad shape." (This item appeared Sept. 15, 2009, in the Anchorage Daily News.) September 15, 2009 Ironic isn't it...I wonder if the furloughs will be before or after the "Beer Train"!

Name: Lord SuckaLot E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years Posted: 16 September 2009 My Dear RRJ, I am your physical therapist. -Lord SuckaLot CSX Executive Handmaiden to God

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 16 September 2009 Hey RRJ: Sorry to hear that...that really does suck a lot!

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 16 September 2009 Goober You have to admit this person sounds a lot like you with the anti-union retoric. It mimics you it's almost word for word. You might be a little off but the queer drag queen bullschidt isn't your method.

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 16 September 2009 NoMo Not good I'm still off for another 4-5 weeks more physical therapy. I'm not happy about it. If it doesn't change next month I might as well pull the plug ang go out on disability. I was ready to go back had the medical return to work forms with me. The only way I'll know if I can perform my duties is by working. Apparently the physical therapist stated I was doing better but not 100%. Damn, I'm 55 years old I doubt if it'll ever be 100% again.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 15 September 2009 Hey RRJ: How did your Doctor's appointment go?

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 15 September 2009 Hey RRJ: The only marble at 500 Water St. Jacksonville is in the bathrooms!

Name: Lord SuckaLot E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years Posted: 15 September 2009 My Dear RRJ, Your talking violence, you brute. Does that mean if I succumb to your demands, you'll tie me up and....spank me!?! OOOOOOHHHHHHH. AAAAAHHHHHHHH. MMMMMMMMMMMM. We are awaitng your presence in my marbled executive office. Bonzo is tired, but has one more left in him - just for you. Time is short....another 15 minutes and we are closing up shop.....everyone showed except you RRJ. Don't be bashful. Hurry on down right now and I will give you the number one honor of being my Queen Bitch (comes with special priviledges). Your Humble King, -Lord SuckaLot CSX Executive Handmaiden to God

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 15 September 2009 RRJ There you go reading between the lines. Sounds like Gooby must be him again. Sorry twern't me.

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 15 September 2009 Lord Dipschidt I've been union for over 32 years. I've never complained about paying dues. I'll take a bad union over no union anytime. Now you sound more like Goober with your last post. In fact you used the same exact wording. You must be Goober in drag. No matter how much CSX doles out discipline it's rare not to see our members get back to work lately they've even been winning appeals with all back pay. CSX can continue this policy sooner or later it'll crumble around them then heads will roll in the ivory tower in JAX. I've seen it to many times. The greatest fear is they'll mess with the wrong person who'll go psycho and take a few people out mostly some poor sucker of a TM who was just following orders from the higher ups. Unfortunately it's just a matter of time if things don't change. I hope it doesn't come down to it.

Name: Lord Suckalot E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years Posted: 14 September 2009 RRJ, Z, engineer 30+, Nomo, Lloyd, Goober, Conductor 1-10, Sam, Madman and all the rest - you prove my point. You all are "union men", but you are repeating the exact same thing CSX has been saying for years. (is there an echo in here?). UNIONS SUCK. Sound familiar?? You are throwing your money away on Union dues....and you admit it....and you hate it....and you keep doing it. Everyone hates the Unions - they are useless. Plain for all to see. Yet you keep on paying, paying, paying!! Like I said, you can't teach stupid to dumb. Give it up, Bitches. Come join with me, your fearless leader. Take the CSX pledge. For once, do something right with your life. When you drop by my Water Street CSX HQ office tomarrow to shine Bonzo the Monkey's boner knob, I will give you your new top secret assignments in a sealed envelope (you will learn to squeal like pigs - you might want to get a head start on this and practice squealing tonight. Practice on your wife or neighbor). You will then go through the Cock Sucker Express Initiation Ceremony (helpful hint: bring plenty of Vaseline). Afterwards, I will claim you all as my exempt CSX employee nig servants - you will join all the other blue collar black n'white trash nigs in my stable. Basically, you will all be my blue dog bitches. A grand stable of stupid squealing bitches. I can't wait. Who's your Daddy? Lord SuckaLot CSX Executive Handmaiden to God

Name: Madman E-mail: Employed as: M of W, for 20-30 years Posted: 14 September 2009 CSX TRANSPORTATION " How We Move to Destroy Jobs and the Work Forces " NEW JOB POSTING CSX HEADQUARTERS Jacksonville, FL. TITLE: HEAD MASTER SALARY: VARIES $4.50 HR - Access Card Deposited HOURS: M - F WITH MADNATORY WEEKENDS. HOURS: 7A- 3P BUT SUBJECT TO 24 HOUR RULES. DUTIES: Wipe the Asses of all of Senior Mangement. This includes and is not limited of using your tounge in place of toilet paper. Computer skills are not required, a pencil and paper is acceptable since the price of printer ink is outrageous. Must be an Alcohol or Narcotics user at all times. Must at all times think that you are better than all Unionized Employees. QUALIFICATIONS - Pre School Dropout, No Common Sense, Drools, Basic Math, Writing. RETARDS will Be the first prefence with an additional 5500 Points. College Degrees will place in last prefence with -2500 Points. This job was created for a Brown Noser who's Name is suckalot! All others Need Not Apply.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 14 September 2009 Lord suck a lot....a person who thinks he/she is clever, witty, etc. How sad that one who obviously suffers from Narcissistic Personality Disorder does not see what a fool he/she is - of course those who suffer from the disorder never see themselves for what they are. Lord Suck - you need help.

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 14 September 2009 Z When a pathetic 62% didn't take the time to vote that is a statement in itself. It can be interpated several ways the members don't a crap or these younger members haven't a clue. I think it's combination of a lot of issues. People lost faith in the union. The union sits by while CSX continiously harasses it's members taking no recourse. Agreements are violated and the union does nothing. Safety issues are ignored. Ever since the 3 GCA's in the BLET under the 2007 SSA became a closed shop it's gotten this way. I know my division is threatening to go UTU if it doesn't change that's the only form of protest left. I still can't see how they can call this a single system agreement when the Northern Lines isn't a part of it.

Name: Z E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 13 September 2009 By an 85 percent majority, members of the Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers and Trainmen yesterday ratified a new five-year collective bargaining agreement with CSX Transportation. The head lines are as misleading as the wording of the contract itself. They make it sound like 85 percent when it was probably around the high 30 percent range of total Engineers that voted. I'm glad I don't work under this contract. It's to open ended and can be interpreted a million ways. My numbers show the national would have been better, assuming it doesn't take 3 years to implement.

Name: Madman E-mail: Employed as: M of W, for 20-30 years Posted: 13 September 2009 My oh my, Suckalot talks alot of shit! Corporate idiots are chosen and hired by the severity of retardation,isn't this correct suckassalot! The Corporation seems to be looking for a handout from the Government point blank. How much money was wasted to buy Conrail! This was a failure that is being shoved on the employees by forms of furloghs. Too bad people want to joke around with somebody's livelyhood. It does not suprise me that he talks about knob polishing, such a flaming Homosexual. I bet he's into child porn also. The way he tries to be creative is a waste of talent that makes it no wonder that he does work in Corporate. I have to ask that will he e er admit his real name or is he such a coward and continue to hide and post stupid comments! I am not even going to put myself through this Bullshit. I have better things to do instead of trying to make out his useless comments. Hello suckassalot, you must have plenty of time on your hands, I know you must be Furloghed yourself! The RRB Unemployment sucks dosen't it you have to sit there and wait for your pay every 2 weeks. The Corporate side isn't anymore protected than a tick on a dog's ass. I have seen Managers come and go for years now and it dosen't bother me one bit. As for you a speck in a Corporate world change can happen over night, in our world we can just bump, transfer etc. and still have a job. CSX Sucks dosen't it that they hired just to fire you. What a waste of a college degree just to wind up unemployed. So you can continue your useless life by posting all the dumb comments you want! but just remember we are the backbone of this pathetic corporation. Madman the Enemy of all Corporations

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 12 September 2009 NoMo We'll see what my doctor says on Monday. At this point I'm bored physical therapy seems like a waste of money and time. That's why on monday I'll request to be released to return to work. I feel the only way of knowing if I can do the job is to go back. Yard jobs are thin for engineers thank's to remotes. The last time I looked at who was working I didn't stand for the yard at least on the C&O side I won't work the SCL jobs under the Wolfe. It's bad enough we have to deliver cars to AACA.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 11 September 2009 Hey RRJ: Glad to hear you're getting back to work. You've had a taste of retirement...are you ready for the next step? One thing about yard jobs...the hours are a whole lot better and with the OT you're bound to make, there may not be too big a difference to care!

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 11 September 2009 NoMo We'll know by Sept 15th if the SSA will be extended for another 5 years. The only change under the snap back provision to the national contract is monetary. Those that voted for it in 2007 including the 49% who never bothered to send in a ballot are stuck with the work rules. Most likely I'll be back to work next week. Hopefully I'll hold a yard job the road doesn't sound to inviting with a minimum of 10 hours undisturbed in lodging under the rail safety act.

Name: Sam the Slave E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 11 September 2009 10 years in Mobile was good for 10 years in New Orleans. It was hard to not be furloughed in New Orleans unless you had 15 to 20. Coming back was sweet. No more bumping, no more furloughs, no more dead heads on Christmas Day. Nice fat check every half. Cant beat it. No Beasts for me NoMo, just a nice cold Pabst after a long hot day. Those smorgabords are grand. We eat like kings.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 11 September 2009 Hey RRJ: The SSA...the gift thats keeps giving. I hope everyone reads and comprehends it!

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 11 September 2009 NoMo Things haven't changed we still have seniority within the consolidated districts. The only thing that did change was the BLE. The BLE gave up the 30 mile radious rule which meant they couldn't force you outside 30 miles from your home terminal to work the UTU had retained it. A hand full of new hire trainmen did excersize their seniority to other locations other opted to be furloughed even though they stood for work elsewhere. Engineers under the SSA bid system can be forced to fill in vacancies if none of their bids locally were awarded. That's why they need to bid in every job a person can bid on up to 85 slots. The catch is an it has happened some were forced 350 miles from home and it was at their own expense working yard jobs which doesn't fall under the reverse lodging agreement.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 10 September 2009 Hey Sam: Unless things have changed...you could exercise your seniority anywhere within your seniority district. In may case (Mobile) that included New Orleans, Pensacola, Montgomery and Birmingham...I don't recall anyone getting a "transfer" bonus for that kind of move, but they kept seniority. After Katrina and to the credit of CSX, temporary transfers were made to a large number of impacted employees to all points in the system...if I recall correctly, CSX may have even allowed a special housing allowance during the term of the transfer. Pabst? Much more likely to find The Beast!

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 10 September 2009 Most railroad lodging is required to have refrigerators & microwaves in the rooms if the local union did it's job. Buy bread, lunch meats, fruit, microwave dinners ect... at a grocery store instead of eating out. Buy yourself a cooler to store items lodgings usually have ice machines if not get it from the railroad. If you're on the road your still entitled to those meal allowances. Part of that $12 can be put in your pocket if you economize. That's $360 in meal allowance for the 30 days. I don't spend that much for myself a month at my home. I can't believe people stating a person could starve comments like eating rat meat. This is better at times than Comedy Central.

Name: Wildman E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 10 September 2009 With only one year of seniority to lose it might not be a bad move. You don't say how far you live away from either of these locations. Before making a decision,check out the cost of living at both areas.

Name: Sam the Slave E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 09 September 2009 Anyone can eat out on $12 a day. Won't be steak or caviar, more like rat meat and stale coffee. Watch out for the greasy spoon dives. The food is poison. I once saw cockroaches the size of sea crabs run out of a 'fresh' baked pie. I pack my own, usually baked chicken in a cooler, some sticks of celary and some apples, bananas,peaches or whatever is in season. BYO 3 squares a day for $12. Starbucks is out. So is a cold Pabst at the local bar, which is ok if the crew before you left a cold one in the fridge. Transfering with loss of seniority is a bigger deal. Transferring with seniority is not. I'd take the latter, not the former - and only if I had full seniority rights if transferred back. Quid pro quo.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 09 September 2009 Hey Other: You might be able to eat one square meal a day on $12.00. If you're lucky enough to have an away from home hotel that offers a buffet, you might get 2 meals. A lot of the travelers carry their food with them. I think the SSA the engineers work under has a $20/day meal allowance...Ruth's Chris all the way:)

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 09 September 2009 To ME, If this is true, the $12.00 per day is really bad and the behind the trainees is also really bad. However if an employee does not go with this deal that is the end of their RR career. I wonder how a person living away from home can eat on $12.00 per day.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 08 September 2009 Hello friends, I would just like to take this time to wish everyone a Happy Labor Day! It's September 7, 2009.....Although I hate to say it, CSX Still SUCKS!

Name: ME E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 06 September 2009 I got this the other day please tell what should i do?? PERMANENT TRANSFER TO CORBIN/LOYALL, KY OR SELKIRK, NY THE COMPANY IS OFFERING TO ALL CSXT TRAIN SERVICE EMPLOYEES WHO ARE IN ACTIVE SERVICE ON AUGUST 27, 2009, ON THE DATE OF THIS BULLETIN, (INCLUDING FURLOUGHED STATUS) AT THE ABOVE CSXT LOCATIONS LISTED AN OPPORTUNITY TO PERMANENTLY TRANSFER TO CORBIN/LOYALL, KY OR SELKIRK, NY. VACANCIES BEING FILLED BY THIS TRANSFER NOTICE: LOCATION DISTRICT CORBIN/LOYALL, KY L&N CONSOLIDATED KENTUCKY SELKIRK, NY CR NORTHERN CONSISTENT WITH THE NEEDS OF SERVICE, CSXT RESERVES THE RIGHT TO RESTRICT THE LOCATIONS TRAINMEN ARE SELECTED FROM, AND TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF TRANSFERS WHICH WILL BE GRANTED. APPLICATIONS WILL BE ACCEPTED FROM CSXT TRAIN SERVICE EMPLOYEE IN ACTIVE SERVICE (INCLUDING FURLOUGHED STATUS) FROM ALL LOCATIONS AND FROM THE CLASS OF SERVICE SPECIFIED. APPLICANTS MUST BE APPLYING FOR A MOVE OUTSIDE OF THEIR CURRENT SENIORITY DISTRICT. APPLICANTS WILL BE SELECTED BY LOCATION IN SENIORITY ORDER. HOWEVER, THE CARRIER RESERVES THE RIGHT TO REJECT APPLICANTS IF THEY HAVE ANY FORMAL DISCIPLINE ASSESSED IN THE LAST 12 MONTHS UNDER EITHER IDPAP OR THE ABSENTEEISM POLICY. TRAINMEN WHO ACCEPT THIS OFFER WILL FORFEIT HIS/HER CURRENT SENIORITY AND WILL CONTINUE AT PRESENT RATE PROGRESSION LEVEL FOR PAY PURPOSES AND VACATION ENTITLEMENTS ONLY ON THE NEW DISTRICT. TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF PERMANENT TRANSFER: 1. RELINQUISH ALL OPERATING CRAFT SENIORITY, INCLUDING CONDUCTOR/ TRAINMEN, ENGINEER/FIREMEN AND YARDMASTER. 2. ESTABLISH TRAINMAN'S SENIORITY AT THE NEW TERRITORY UPON THE FIRST DATE OF QUALIFYING ON THE NEW TERRITORY AND AT THE BOTTOM OF THE ROSTER AND BEHIND ANY CURRENT TRAINEES. 3. RETAIN YEARS OF SERVICE FOR VACATION ENTITLEMENTS. 4. BE PAID TO QUALIFY ON THE NEW TERRITORY FOR UP TO 30 DAYS. 5. RECEIVE ADDITIONAL COMPENSATION PER THE FOLLOWING SCHEDULE; $1,000 UPON PROOF OF ARRIVING AT THE NEW LOCATION $2,000 UPON QUALIFYING ON THE NEW TERRITORY $4,000 12 MONTHS AFTER QUALIFYING $3,000 24 MONTHS AFTER QUALIFYING 6. APPLICANTS SELECTED FOR TRANSFER MUST REMAIN AT THE LOCATION THEY ARE CHOSEN FOR, SENIORITY PERMITTING, FOR TWO (2) YEARS. DURING THE TWO YEAR PERIOD, THE EXERCISING OF SENIORITY TO ANOTHER CONSOLIDATED SENIORITY DISTRICT LOCATION IS ONLY PERMISSIBLE WHEN AN APPLICANT'S SENIORITY DOES NOT PERMIT THEM TO REMAIN EMPLOYED AT THE INITIAL SUPPLY POINT. 7. REPORT TO THE NEW LOCATION WITHIN 10 DAYS OF NOTIFICATION. 8. IF A VOLUNTARY SEPARATION PROGRAM IS OFFERED IN YOUR NEW SENIORITY DISTRICT AT SOME FUTURE DATE AND YOU REQUEST SEPARATION (AND SUCH REQUEST IS ACCEPTED BY THE COMPANY), THE COMPANY MAY DEDUCT ALL TRANSFER PAYMENTS RECEIVED UNDER THIS AGREEMENT FROM SUCH FUTURE SEPARATION AGREEMENT. 9. BE PROVIDED MEAL ALLOWANCE (NOT TO EXCEED $12.00 PER DAY) AND COMPANY PROVIDED LODGING FOR THIRTY (30) DAYS. 10.BE ENTITLED TO CARRIER-PROVIDED LODGING FOR 30 DAYS. LODGING AT THE AWAY TERMINALS WILL BE PROVIDED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE APPLICABLE LABOR AGREEMENT. NOTE: IN THE EVENT AN EMPLOYEE RECEIVES THE BENEFITS UNDER THIS NOTICE AND DOES NOT REMAIN AT THE LOCATION TO WHICH HE TRANSFERRED BY HIS OWN ELECTION FOR A PERIOD OF TWO (2) YEARS, HE WILL BE REQUIRED TO REIMBURSE THE COMPANY FOR THE MONETARY TRANSFER ALLOWANCES PAID TO HIM.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 04 September 2009 It's September 3, 2009.....and CSX STILL SUCKS!

Name: Lord SuckaLot E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years Posted: 03 September 2009 Dear mr. beenher2long I have known Mr. Gooden for many years and can assure you he is not a liar or a cheater. You can ask anyone here at headquarters and they will tell you so. We would never hire a liar or a cheater. Demand is hereby commanded that you cease and desist your utterly disgusting slanderous banter. Thank you sir for your cooperation. Sincerely, I remain Lord Suckalot, Supreme Commander of Railroad Forces, CSX HQ

Name: Binheer2long E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 29 August 2009 Yes, that is the same Clarence Gooden that Mike Ward covered some months ago. Clarence is a hell of a nice guy but that does not excuse his forgetting that he didn't complete his degree at UGA like he stated on his resume. I posted some time ago that any of us would be dismissed immediately for padding the payroll or falsifying any document relating to our employeement. I asked union officers if any appeals were planned of investigations where employees were accused of misrepresenting information. By misrepresenting his resume, did Clarence pad his payroll? Guess what--no response from anyone on either side of this question.

Name: Steve Gordon E-mail: sgordon@gordon-elias.com Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 28 August 2009 Dear Sam- As a follow up, as I said I would, I emailed the two lawyers on exposure RT claims and both responded that they have each handled cancer and brain tumor type cases from long term exposure to diesel and other carcinogen cases and would definitely look at taking these type claims. I hope that, with the above, all your inquiries have been answered. Take care, Steve

Name: sam the slave E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 28 August 2009 Bossman says ya guts ta be a good liar to get a high level zecutive job on de railroad. A real gooden liar ya gots ta be. ah rocket scientist an a blue blood Harverd boy? Muny talks an idiots walk as dey sez in der bored room. i got ta gits me a sheepskin n someday be chairman of de bored. dont whip me fer being uppity masta. plez dont whip me. i iz beggin ya masta, ya basterd liar.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 28 August 2009 Isn't Gooden the same guy that lied on his resume? CSX exec confident economy about to rebound JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- Clarence Gooden, vice president of Sales and Marketing and Chief Commercial Officer of CSX Transportation, Inc., was the guest speaker at Monday's meeting of the Rotary Club of Jacksonville. A railroad executive since 1970, he has seen many cycles in his industry and the economy. Gooden offered club members his predictions for the future of all three. "Chances are two-thirds of everything that's in your home was handled by us or another railroad. That's everything from appliances to electronics to plumbing fixtures to clothing. If you had a Corona beer this past hot weekend, we hauled it," he said. Railroads predict future economic trends based on the amount of raw materials and finished goods that are being shipped. Based on the volume of lumber and other building materials being shipped, Gooden said he doesn't expect to see a recovery in that segment of the market until 2012. In terms of the automotive industry, Gooden said railroad shipping volume is down but the federal "Cash for Clunkers" rebate program reduced manufacturers' inventories from 77 days of available product to 44 days. "And today is the first day all auto plants are working in months. Some of them are only on a five-day schedule, but it's better than it was," said Gooden. He predicted quicker recoveries for market segments including phosphate (chemical fertilizer) and coal. He also said CSX has maintained a strong philosophy of capital investment in its road beds and other infrastructure -- $1.645 billion this year alone. "This economy will be back and when it's back we will have made the investments needed," said Gooden. (The preceding article by Max Marbut was published August 25, 2009, by the Jacksonville Financial News & Daily Record.) August 27, 2009

Name: Sam the Slave E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 27 August 2009 Steve, you might also want to check out Intermodal gate & trailer/container inspection/billing clerks - they also had to use earphones when checking trucks into the ramp - ear shattering blasts from the revving diesel trucks would blow out eardrums - some guys were bleeding from the ears, others could not hear a thunderclap once away from the phones. Ramps were designed with very little hearing safety in mind, as are hump yards. Hearing loss is another problem for engineers working around loud noises from a locomotive. A lot of retired guys have latent hearing losses - might take up to 5 years after retirement, but eventually a significant number have partial to total hearing loss - most definately work related.

Name: Binheer2long E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 27 August 2009 Steve Gordon -- You might want to contact some past and present Train Dispatchers from the Jacksonville office, rumor has it that there are some significant hearing loss cases available account CSX using Plantronic headsets that were designed for use with a 220 volt system such as is used in Europe. The headsets were prone to delivering percing screams into the users ears from time to time. Plantronics customer service reps told inquirers that the headsets CSX used were not compatible to the US 110 volt standard and were not recommended. Then it reportedly came to light that it was not the headsets, but a noise arrester that the headsets plugged into. You might contact some of the communications specialists in Jax for details. Just a lead you might want to persue. I know there were preventative settlements paid a few years ago, but some of the dispatchers chose to opt out and now could have some major new claims. CSX knew about the problems with their communications systems and would not go to outside specialists to fix it. All to save a dime.

Name: JASON E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years Posted: 27 August 2009 I am posting this for the new bees who think they have it so tough on the road, When i first hired in the 70,s we had bunk houses to take rest at away from home terminals, Most were run by the YMCA ha ha what a joke that was, A lot of them were set up like army barracks ya know a bunch of guys sleeping in one big room with only a cloth curtain between the bunks, The body noises were discusting to say the least, And the wash rooms were also the same as a army boot camp barracks, 20 sinks in a row and 20 toliets in a row and a the shower room was the same, 1 big room with 20 shower heads so we could all see each other naked,, Yea talk about no personal privacy on the railroad, Well thats how it was ditto, And yes it sucked, I was the most happy person on the rr when they closed those discusting filty rat holes and thats what they were and some did not even have AC..... Yea man good ole railroading at its best???? I should have slept in a box car, At least i would have had some privacy.

Name: Steve Gordon E-mail: sgordon@gordon-elias.com Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 26 August 2009 Name: Sam the Slave E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 25 August 2009 Steve, What would you classify as a "seriously injured" railroad employee? (are you including diseases, psyche, toxic chemical exposure?) Can you give specific examples of particular injuries or cases you have in mind? How does the "loan to seriously injured employees" program work? (what happens if the firm looses at trial?) Has your firm had trial experience? Thanks. Sam ---------------------------- Dear Sam- Thank you for your questions. I will address each of your questions individually. Question:What would you classify as a "seriously injured" railroad employee?(are you including diseases, psyche, toxic chemical exposure?)Can you give specific examples of particular injuries or cases you havein mind? Answer: Quite frankly all the discussions with the two lawyers as to the types of injuries have all been involved around orthopedic injuries in nature and have not involved exposure type situations. After I post this, I will ask them. However, the types of injuries that have been discussed, and that I know they have an expertise in, range from disk herniations to the cervical and/or lumbar spine caused from whole body vibration (WBV); knee & ankle wear and tear from uneven ballast or ballast that should be smaller in size rather than larger; shoulder repetitive trauma seen, for example, in switchmen; and carpal & ulnar (elbow) tunnel syndrome. By the term "seriously injured", it is meant that the person cannot return back to his craft. Question: How does the "loan to seriously injured employees" program work? (what happens if the firm looses at trial?. Answer: In some states, it is permissible for an attorney to actually advance monies to clients while the client's case is pending to pay "necessaries". Necessaries can mean food, shelter, and other staples. In these cases, the lawyers sit down with the client and review the client's bills and there previous income. The advances, in the case of Gordon & Elias, L.L.P. are mad interest free and without recourse. That is, if the client does not receive money from the claim, they have no obligation to pay it back. It is, in essence, considered like all the other expenses put out in the prosecution of the client's case. There is no obligation for a lawyer to do this and the hiring of a lawyer should not be based upon this. It is simply, we believe an added benefit of being a Gordon & Elias client. If the firm loses at trial, there is no obligation to pay it back. It is, in the trues sense: "No recovery....then no fees or expenses are paid". Question: Has your firm had trial experience? Answer: Gordon & Elias has never tried a cumulative case as we have NEVER taken one and, absent these two lawyers, would not begin now. Each of these two lawyers have tried cumulative/repetitive trauma claims in many states and, perhaps more importantly, have successfully handled and settled MANY cumulative cases. For me personally, I have only had to try one FELA case to verdict. As with all personal injury cases, the key to "winning" is working as hard as one can in the "discovery" phase of the case to make the railroad (or whoever the defendant is) believe that, if they go to trial, they will lose and they will lose significantly. IF there is not a reasonable settlement offer, then you should go to trial and make sure to show up sober (Joke!). But, if you work up the case properly, the case should settle. Remember this- "There's never a horse that's never been rode and there's never been a man that's never been throwed". Translation= A reasonable settlement offer should be accepted because you never know what a jury will do for sure. Lawyers that say they have never lost a case at trial, simply (1) have not tried a lot of cases or (2) are lying. I have lost cases I should have won and won cases I should have lost and all in between. The issue with cumulative/trauma claims are that the railroads must take the posture they are BS. Because, if they do not, they are afraid the floodgates of litigation will overcome them. No question the railroads have had "personal" knowledge that, for instance, the engine vibration and the seats cause vibration spinal injuries. The lawyers we have teamed up with have all they relevant documents to prove this and they do not have to "re-invent" the wheel as they were some of the few lawyers that invented the wheel to begin with (at least as to repetitive claims. I hope this email answers your questions. Steve

Name: Steve Gordon E-mail: sgordon@gordon-elias.com Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 24 August 2009 Dear All- I am proud to announce to you that the our firm has partnered with two totally separate law firms for the sole purpose of handling what is called repetitive or cumulative trauma [RT FELA Claims] FELA claims. Historically, the firm of Gordon & Elias, L.L.P., has only allowed itself to be hired for "one time" FELA traumatic events. This is true for two reasons: (1) First, we have always thought that, if we cannot do the best job possible for the injured worker, then we did not want to allow ourselves to be hired by them. I can tell you the RT FELA claims, even though they are asserted under FELA, are, in fact, very difficult to develop and it is required, in our opinion, to have a level of expertise that we did not have. Some lawyers simply take everything that walks in the door but in the end that does not, we feel anyway, benefit the client; and (2) the client gets what we feel is very important and that is what we call the Gordon & Elias, L.L.P. experience. Specifically, they get the cell phones of the lawyers that are handling their claim and, where ethically permitted to do so, Gordon & Elias advances them money on their case interest free. This is a very large commitment but, we feel, is a necessary commitment so the worker can pay their bills during the pendency of the claim. We have always thought that the most seriously injured claimants want to make a claim but, because of their economic responsibilities, cannot afford to do it. The two lawyers are in separate areas of the United States and that means their experience is each limited to specific railroads. The CSX "expert" is David Lockard and we are exceedingly proud that he has chosen us to work with. We will work with him in all cases where G&E is hired and that will provide, in essence, two law firms on the client's case for the same attorneys' fee as one firm. This, we feel is also a benefit to the client for many obvious reasons. There you have it and if someone has any further questions, please feel free to call me directly at 1-800-773-6770. I hope no one ever needs our services but, if you do, we would respectfully ask that you at least give us a chance to explain why we feel we would be your best choice. Sincerely, Steve Gordon

Name: Jim E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 23 August 2009 You guys are losers. CSX isn't a bad railroad. Every single company in the world (including every single railroad) has its mistakes, flaws, errors, accidents, etc. Why make fun of CSX? They're not bad. If you want to talk about a bad railroad, talk about Canadian National(CN). They have derailments almost weekly and have abandoned 3000 miles of track since 1992. They are also the cause of at least one VIA Rail accident which claimed 2 lives. CN is the one that sucks, not CSX.

Name: average joe E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 22 August 2009 rrj i really dont think i am a racist brother i just know that the job market that i applied in well that town has a collective african amrican count of 3 in the entire population so yes that is why i said the things i did no i got the job and was never called kinda felt like i was all dressed up and no where to go you know so no im not racist until it comes to a large corp. trying to get there affermitave action quetes off of my small town all you guys reading black and white know its an insult to us all if a person gets a job because of their race black people dont want to pull the race card just niggers black people have skills and are just as ashamed as thier nigger counterparts as we white people are of our trailer trash white people all im say is if there was two white guys in bibs interviewing 400+ black men and 2 white men for 2 jobs who do you think they would pick if you were a black man tryin to get a job in a white town that is how i felt they i got the congratulations letter lol well give you a job BULLSHIT so yes csx does suck from tennessee all the fuckin way to lakeland florida

Name: Sam the Slave E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 21 August 2009 Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 21 August 2009 Those of you that think Mgt is a butt sucking outfit will always feel that way, why would you not! you hear it every day, same bull, over time you buy in and go along with the crowd. ********************************************************* No true, for me. I never said M&Ms were a bunch of butt suckers. I said they were a bunch of coch suckers. There is a difference. Butt suckers go along with the plan - butt sucking is their way of showing tacit mindless decision making approval of their idiot superiors. Coch suckers need more. Much more. They have a strong overwhelming desire for power for the sake of power, abuse for the sake of abuse, and for the needy feeling of belonging to the all important executive hatchet club, so they go the extra mile that is required. (Swallowing is optional, unless they want extra brownie points - like time off for Christmas). Heck every group loves to kick someone. This my friend is why TM's and other mgt so often come from outside, no where else to go. kinda sad. **************************************************** Horseshit. If a Union man was afraid of everything that was ever said about him or her, they'd never leave the front porch. Not so with the ego maniac management clan. There biggest fear is that someone is criticizing their judgement. OH MY GOD. There, I said it. The cat is out of the bag. Please dont beat me masta, please dont beat me.... There are thousands of union men who could do ten times a better job than any M&M you can name, and who are fiercely loyal to the success of the Railroad, and the Company knows it. Corporate does not pick from the Union because they are scared to death of Union men - scared to death someone will tell them more about how to manage a railroad in one hour than a thousand butt licking managers could possibly ever learn in 100 years. Call it negative if you want, but a fact is a fact. You have Mastas and you have slaves, and that's the way they like it. It's called class denigradation - alive and well in America railroading. Sad.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 21 August 2009 ATTITUDE, If you read back you can see it. Failure to attain and maintain an acceptable attitude will continue to defeate the rank and file at every turn. I did see the big dog of the afl/cio (SIC) Trumpka I think was his name. He made sense with a very positive and targerted stance. I kinda liked his approach. That is how it works, negative crap just hold's one back. Laugh if you want, work until you can no longer work who cares the RR does not. Just remember when you can get the RR checks for free you will need to deduct that from the big check and see how cheap you are really working. You will be sitting in a side track, making big money and miss the very best years of your life. Those of you that think Mgt is a butt sucking outfit will always feel that way, why would you not! you hear it every day, same bull, over time you buy in and go along with the crowd. Heck every group loves to kick someone. This my friend is why TM's and other mgt so often come from outside, no where else to go. kinda sad.

Name: Sam the Slave E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 21 August 2009 That's right NoMo. I always said that the only basics you need to move onward and upward in railroad management was a nose, pair of lips, and an anus. Only blind butchers need apply. Window washing, coffee fetching, and laundry pickup training is preferred. Otherwise, no experience necessary.

Name: PC E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years Posted: 19 August 2009 Where I work CSX called back 15 or so furloughs in early July and now they're all cut off again. The boards are cut back down and there is almost never a rested engineer or switchman on the board.

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 18 August 2009 Who says I'm leaving? I might just stick around till I'm 70. It's to much fun watching management screw things up. It's to much fun seeing beads of sweat pour out of them after they get their arses reamed out because a customer had to shut down production because of mismanagement. It's to much fun having them tell us how to switch out cars. It's to much fun seeing trains sitting idle no crews to run them because there rotting in hotels for 24+ hours while at home the boards are exhausted. You have to admire their illogical logic to bypass the new HOS and required rest the solution is keep crews in hotels for 24+ hours then it doesn't apply "poof" there goes the 6&2 or 7&3.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 18 August 2009 Hey Friend: Experienced men are a threat to all the Frat boys. They have learned through experience the ins and the outs of the business...a couple of years on the rocks is most enlightening. The men that do move up to management are either yes men and fit nicely into the clique or they tell it like it is and badgered back on their seniority...in either case the company loses. This "Corporate Culture" runs through all levels of management and explains the obvious lack of critical thinking to even simple problems. All the college boys don't have a clue and the men that know better are more interested in ingratiating themselves by agreeing with their bosses. Most, if not all these men are insecure and have never, nor will ever have an original thought as managers. They have all learned a valuable lesson from early on...that being, don't rock the boat. Take heart in knowing that CSX is not the only company with such a "Corporate Culture". You only have to look back over the last nine months or so at the banks, investment firms and industrial firms like GM to see similar cultures and similar results!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 18 August 2009 RRJ--- will not be the only one leaving the CSX. Employees thru out the company will leave in MASS. CSX is poised to address the loss of experience, and today is a perfect opportunity for those with experience and many years left to work, to move into Management and do very well. The Boomers are leaving, just as they were hired in a bunch. If you are now working with 5 years of service --Your Seniority will skyrocket in the next 5 years. Play nice and you could be a terminal manager or an engineer on the best run's. Just the way it has always worked.--- Hire in at the right time run the City Of New Orleans, Hire in a year later retire off the local.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 1-10 years Posted: 18 August 2009 Something wrong when you talk about a management void through retirements. Anybody down there ever asked why more contract (EXPERIENCED) people don't move up, or move up then take their tools back???????? UPS doesn't hire supervisors off of the street, they promote from within. If there is a management void in JAX, it's their own fault. The real crisis will come later when CSX has completely "reorganized" management so that everyone up top is a lawyer or an economist, and evenly split between women, men, african-american, hispanic, non-hispanic, or non-hispanic pacific-islander not originating from any of the native north american people, or asian, or asian that might have originated from the extreme northern eskimo tribes of North America, middle eastern, european, but only if it is a small amount of anglo-saxon; and finally, and damn we had to include it....WHITE. Ooops, not to forget gay or lesbian...even better if living with a life partner and adopted children. Lower level management will include trainmasters off the street whose only knowledge of rr operations is the o-test book of tickets they carry around in their pants pocket. Moving freight efficiently will be a non-requirement as experience has been removed as a requirement for management. Reading that article makes you think of a woman that never bathes or shaves, and then has less enough sense to wonder aloud why no one will go out with her!!! Make a few simple changes, and people will be lined up at her door. CSX...making money in spite of themeselves!!!

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 17 August 2009 Hey Trainmaster/Stupidvisor <1: You'ld have a lot more credibility if you could spell or could figure out how to use spell check..."bithes"! Are you from Lafayette, IN?

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 16 August 2009 Well Now's your chance, CSX-SUX elite...NoMo Gillerain, JG Molter, ETC, ETC, Complainers, bithes, etc, time to step up and change the world....

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 16 August 2009 I saw this on the UTU website and wanted to share it at the time, but alas, our beloved website was broke...I think we all agree that CSX isn't facing an upper management void, they already have one! CSX facing void in upper management JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- The good news for job seekers is that there will be plenty of employment opportunities available in Jacksonville. The bad news is that the availability will occur over the next 5-7 years, The Daily Record reported. Both private and public industries are bracing for the retirement of a substantial portion of their workforces, and some industries are worried that the hiring pool won't be replenished at the same rate as people will be retiring. "It's startling, the amount of industrial knowledge that will be going out the door in the next 5-7 years," said Barbara Hamilton, CSX contract staffing and training. "That will be hard to recover from because this is an industry where you don't learn quickly. You gradually acquire knowledge through training and experience." CSX Corporation is a transportation company providing rail, intermodal and rail-to-truck services. The Jacksonville-based company that employs about 34,000 people has created a transportation network that connects its customers to ports, production and distribution centers and markets across the Eastern United States. The company is faced with losing 40-45 percent of its management staff of about 4,000 employees over the next 5-7 years, but they are creating programs to recruit and develop the employees that will fill those positions. CSX is also working to develop a workforce that reflects the diversity of the communities in which it operates. "The majority of our employees have traditionally been white males," said Hamilton. "It's a heavy industry. Riding on trains, maintaining tracks and building structures and maintaining and building equipment is physically demanding work. Railroading wasn't a career that appealed to women. We have begun to change that culture and in 2000 four percent of our employees were women, but in 2006 that number jumped to six percent. Management is 22 percent women." CSX has developed more than 20 inclusion groups and councils which promote diversity. They are involved in community service and recruitment for CSX. Councils are created geographically, and are located in Jacksonville, Atlanta, Louisville, Florence, Chicago, Huntington, Baltimore, Tampa and other locations. Inclusion groups are part of the councils and they have been created for African-Americans, Asian-Americans, Hispanics, Young Professionals, Women's Network, Military, Working Parents and Adults Caring for Elders. The Jacksonville headquarters also hosts an annual inclusion forum each spring, which allows CSX employees to participate in a series of executive and leadership panel discussions, social networking events, workshops and study circles. "They say that creating a culture of inclusion is a journey," said Michael Ward, CSX CEO. "At CSX, we're committed to fostering innovation, collaboration and risk-taking. We've built coaching and inclusion into our core competencies and as a result, we are now seeing this new culture emerge." The company is recruiting in different ways in an effort to prepare for the transition including management training for current employees and college recruitment programs to give students a chance to see if CSX "is the right fit for them." The company has also been losing union skilled laborers to retirement in large numbers for the last decade and Hamilton hasn't noticed an increase in skilled laborers to replace those that have reached retirement. "Due to the economy, we haven't been hiring union workers during the last nine months because we've had to furlough some of our workers," said Hamilton. "Once the economy picks up, we will be very, very competitive for that limited market of skilled labor. We've kept good relationships with those we've had to furlough because when we open the spigot again, we want to hit the ground running." Private industry isn't alone with worries about an aging workforce that looks to retire soon. JEA, the eighth largest community-owned electric utility in America, is also preparing for the retirement of a substantial portion of its workforce. "Our employee outreach includes Workforce readiness programs and working with the engineering program at the University of North Florida," said Gerri Boyce, spokesperson for JEA. "Participation in the apprentice programs hasn't been as good as it has been in the past because people can't afford to spend the necessary time to learn the skills of the job before they can make the bigger money once they graduate." A generation gap may also affect the restocking of skilled labor, according to a spokesperson from a workforce development agency. "The next generation of workers that has been raised playing video games instead of being outside with dad helping to fix the car is going to have a tough time with physical skilled labor," said Candace Moody, vice president of communications at Worksource. "On the other hand, the skilled labor that does have the experience with machinery may find it difficult to adjust to using computers in jobs they used to do by hand." As unemployment rates continue to climb, job seekers may want to consider delving into one of the many repair fields, Moody suggested. "You can't offshore a repair job," said Moody. "People will always need someone to fix things, so there is always going to be job security in that field." (The preceding article by Joe Wilhelm Jr. was published August 6, 2009, by the Jacksonville Daily Record.) August 6, 2009 As proof I offer the following evidence of the current upper management... http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/80722828/

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 03 August 2009 First off I never post on every section on this website. I'll make an exception in this case. Average Joe You say you're not racist. You used the "N" word right from the start. You got hired then got furloughed. Join the club. Just about everyone who got hired the past year some have been working longer longer have been furloughed. It's the economy if you couldn't figure that one out seeing you state you have a college degree. No, instead you decided to rant and rave about if more blacks were at that hiring session you wouldn't of got the job. I'm going to repeat something no one wants to read. When a lot of us hired on the railroad we were furloughed at times. Some of us got furloughed on a regular basis because of seasonal business. Some were furloughed for years. It's not a new concept that the railroads have devised like outsourcing and downsizing. It's a matter of waiting your turn to get enough seniority till you can hold a regular job. Nothing hidden in it, it's plain and simple. I guess it's a type of weeding out those who'll stay and be dedicated and those who'll move on. All you did was join the pity party club. Those who feel how unfair it is. Those who wish all those oldheads would retire. Staying on the railroad is up to the individual either they can handle it or not it doesn't make a difference to the railroad. Those that are furloughed the statistics are only 10% will return. Maybe you belong to that club.

Name: Binheer2long E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 02 August 2009 I ain't drunk, just got a hellova start on a hangover. Bintherelongago

Name: average joe E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 02 August 2009 well we all sit back and take it in the ass i got a job with csx back in october and still no fuckin job yeah two niggers interviewed me thank god there were any other brothers there other than them or i wouldnt have even got the fuckin imaginary job offer in the first place so here is what i say fuck affirmative action and fuck csx and all other companies and colleges who discriminate agianst white men and women dont act like you dont know you have all seen it i know i come off as racist but i am really not all im sayin is that if i was a black guy getting the job where i was supp0sed to go to work i would have my fucking imaginary goddamn house paid for by now i guess its my college that fuckin holds me back or the fact that my daddy didnt work for the railroad i dont know so there fuck it most of you all are well you knew someone so you got your job and fuck everybody else

Name: Binheer2long E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 01 August 2009 "There is no reason to try and reason with the unreasonable." Binheer2long

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 01 August 2009 Anyone who would pick Sarah Palin as a VP needs to have a complete psychiatric medical evaluation before holding public office. I think the word is narcissistic. Probably 'stupid' would also fit, but she might get invited to the White House for beers. McCain may be a hero, but he is dumber than crapcakes when it comes to VP picks. The media fried his pick, and the public was laughing and snickering all day, every day. McCain is lucky he had a Senate seat to fall back on - with a pick like Palin, his judgement is very questionable to say the least.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 30 July 2009 Hey KS: You're right about Rush Limbaugh...he's a wind bag and doesn't like anybody or anything that doesn't agree with him. There are others on both sides of the issue...talking heads, that I believe are only in it for the money. One that comes to mind is Ann Coulter...Rush's Yin, She grew up in the same town I did and went to school with my brother...she ain't changed much except become rich. You may not agree with McCain's politics but he's a hero; any other time and he might have been elected. Palin is probably a nice person, a little flaky in my opinion and a lousy choice as a VP candidate. In three years who knows...Rush just might be running or waddling for President!

Name: KS E-mail: Employed as: Engine repair, for 1-10 years Posted: 30 July 2009 Guess i am to young to know about this macarthy guy you talk about but i do know about that fat ass blow bag rush limbaugh,,, It makes me sick just to see him let alone listen to all the venom he puts out as he seems always aginst union workers to the point of him calling unions a form of communism and blaming union workers for the fall of the big companys and he never mentions the corprate greed. He has no fellings at all to the common worker and he took the cake when he put down michel j fox saying he was faking his so called illness, i am surprised rush is not on a hit list and all his ditto heads believe everything he says,,,, rush is the typical die hard right wing nut case republican, Do as i say not as i do. I am glad his boy mac got a good clock cleaning in the election and do not forget mac& palin were anti labor anti railroad too...

Name: Sam the Slave E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 28 July 2009 McCarthy was a political show boat who devised the commie hearings as a way to bring himself and his party notariety, and perpetual re-election. It worked, but at a huge social cost. He was the Republican party version of the Great Crusade and the Salem Witch Trials all rolled into one. During the late 40s and early 50s, the general public was ripe for hysteria with post WWII nazi/kamikazi stress syndrome and of course the Bomb falling into the hands of the rabid demon-commies who were plotting to nuke every baby boomer bedroom community from the Catskill mountains to the Rio Grande. McCarthy succeeded in destroying thousands of perfectly legitimate businesses and many more thousands of lives of innocent Americans - all for McCarthy's maniac egoism and his party's blood lust for money and power. And, guess who was McCarthy's right hand committee man? Richard Nixon, crookedest man in history of the White House. So there you go. Republican party politics have had a 20th century penache for attracting the sleaziest scum buckets to run for public office - they are of recent past particularly known for recruiting from the sewers. Remember low gas prices during Bush Sr.'s term, and how gas prices suddenly spiked after he visited the Saudi's - and the economy dove into recession? Fast forward to Bush, Jr. Oil & gas prices were low, until Bush, Jr. had a few visits with the Saudi's..... and gas prices zoomed into orbit. And now here we are - enjoying the worst global financial meltdown since the Great Depression. Oh, and let's not forget Raygun Reagan and Raygunomics - another mega- colosal screw up who could not remember his own name unless mentioned with Bonzo. Thankfully, American Democracy is still at work - for once, American voters - especially the usually apethetic voter - stepped up and elected a fundamentally good and decent man - Barack Obama - for the top job. Today the new Joe McCarthy is Rush Limbaugh - sleaze master of the air waves spewing forth hate, paranoia, and mountains of lies fabricated from thin air - all complete bullshit designed only to generate advertising money to support Loonbaugh's drug addiction and the Republican Party mantra "Up with the very rich - fuck everyone else". I get a big LOL whenever anyone comes out of their schzo-phrenic closet and babbles on about great guy Joe McCarthy. It's like re-surrecting Adolf Hitler and commiserating over what a lovable guy he was for the kiddies. Dr. Mengale, the medical baby-butcher of Auschweitz, was his right hand man. So there you go.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 27 July 2009 In regard to the mainstream media...in general the media tends to be left of center, protecting their 1st Amendment right. However, all outlets reflect the views of their publisher or owner. As an example I'll cite Fox New which reflects the political bent of it's owner Rupert Murdoch; a conservative and one of the richest men in the world. All successful politicians have one thing in common, support of the media. It's a sad commentary that citizens and voters in the US are unable to make decisions for themselves and allow a few media moguls to manipulate their views. McCarthy's legacy speaks for its self...with the exception of North Korea there are no true Communist countries left. Every water course will eventually find it's way to the sea...some meanders just take longer than others...I often wonder where our meander will take us!

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 27 July 2009 Cond 30+ It's called getting an education. I guess you must rely on someone to tell you their twisted opinions so you can form yours. Everyting I've stated is fact. Numerous books have been written about the subject. There's a place called a library which for free you can get books to read. I never stated there wasn't any communist. A lot of peoples lives were destroyed because of black listing over gossip and nothing more. It only took someone to mention your name to save their own arse. If you call that the American way then I guess your a communist. It appears Bush tried to start up his own version of black listing with Homeland Security. Hey if I don't like my neighbor or a fellow worker it only takes a phone call to put them under goverment scrutiny as a suspected terrorist.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years Posted: 26 July 2009 If the [mainstream] press is left-leaning, why do the newspapers have a "Business" section, but not a "Labor" section? Why is every dispute between labor and management portrayed as labor being selfish and greedy, and management being a victim or greedy workers who always want MORE?? Classic example: a few years ago the NYC subway & transit workers went on strike over x-mas. Look up the articles, then find out what was really going on. As always, the press is just as left leaning as the giant multi-national corporations that OWN the press.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 26 July 2009 Engineer 30+ Have you ever read anything on your own or are you just spewing back all of the innacuracies you have heard over the years? Joe McCarthy revealed that there were real Commies who had slipped into the goverment. The press (left leaning then as now) tried to destroy him before he did harm to their socialist/communist views. An acoholic and skirt chaser, sure but so am I and about 50% of your fellow railroaders. Mccarthyism helped save the country(at least until this Marxist was elected to the White House)

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 26 July 2009 Do I see a parallel between McCarthyism and Ingramism?

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 25 July 2009 slack action Your grandmother worked for Hoover during the mid '50s. That was sad an interesting times in this country. Most likely during the "Black Listing" era. During McCarthyism which Hoover and the FBI played a significant role that was a dark period in our history. Our freedoms of beliefs were being curtailed. Most of the people who were black listed were innocent even if a person was a card carrying communist the constitution gaurenteed that right. Most were accused for allegedly attending communist party meetings back in the '30s during the depression. The back lash for those accused brought before the Senate Committee on UnAmerican activities was being forced to name names in return for lenient treatment. Hollywood screen writers, actors, directors suffered the most. It went on to those in goverment. It finally ended when McCarthy started accusing the military who fought back and he lost. Turns out McCarthy was an alcoholic and skirt chaser which destroyed him politically.

Name: CSX Blow E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 25 July 2009 I think I would croak one day if the CSX Sucks picture section got updated. I will probably retire in 24 years and after that it will get updated...LOL

Name: slack action E-mail: Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years Posted: 25 July 2009 RRJ: you are right about Hoover. My grand mother worked for him during the mid 50's back in New York. He did hate the Kennedy's but she did not know anything about the cross dressing thing at the time because it was very hush, hush. She did say that the contact that she did have with him was okay... But all of the agents thought he was a little weird,,,

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 25 July 2009 Hey RRJ: We'll find out about Hoffa being buried at Giants Stadium soon enough. I think the Giants are getting a new stadium next year and that Giants Stadium is scheduled to be demolished shortly thereafter!

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 24 July 2009 NoMo Like the Kennedys had a lot of room to talk when they too had connections to the mafia with Sam Giancana. The rumors of voter corruption in Chicago in 1960. Joe Kennedy made his fortune being a rum runner during prohibition. Wether younger Bobby knew the facts is speculation. Those were strange times. We had our own secret police led by the cross dressing J Edgar Hoover. Who went after the Kennedys with a vengence. The CIA hated the Kennedys because after the Bay of Pigs disaster he wanted to curtail or dismantle it. Jack Kennedy had a lot of enemies it's still one of the greatest mysteries on who assasinated the 35th president. Mafia, FBI, or CIA? Hoffa too is a mystery that might never be solved just 2 years ago they were still searching with a dig at a horse farm outside of Detroit. I still like the Playboy interview with a hit man years ago who on a death bed confession stated Hoffa was under concrete on the 50 yard line at the Meadowlands.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 24 July 2009 Hoffa did do a lot for the union workers...up until Bobby Kennedy got after him, then he became a liability to the union and the powers to be, whom ever that was. Nobody will ever know what really happened to him, if anything. The authorities don't even have a body. Back in those days organized crime liked to make examples out of their enemies...it's hard to be a example when they can't find you...or your body! In my opinion, it's wrong to condemn Hoffa, Jr. for what his father may have done. There remains a pall over union leadership though, both the UTU and BLEt have had their share of shady characters recently. The truism, about power corrupting and absolute power, corrupts absolutely continues to be proven daily.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 24 July 2009 RRJ, Jimmy Hoffa was not a hero, nore is his son. Any good that has ever been done by this family is equal to the good done by the Capone family. On the backs of a few working men. Those that produce will always be taken advantage of by those that do not produce.

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 23 July 2009 I think people are comparing Hoffa to his father. If the rumors are correct then Jimmy Hoffa was murdered by the mafia. Why would his son go in that direction? That doesn't make sense. I think his father was a great man who did a lot for union workers in this country.

Name: Sam the Slave E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 23 July 2009 Yes, but that don't mean he's clean by any means. You seen "The Departed" by Scorsese? Hoffa could easily be a man of many faces, and the Feds could easily be supporting and covering for him for any one of a thousand different reasons. Sometimes fiction blurs with reality, and movies borrow heavily from real life. One thing I know about union politics - things are NEVER as they seem to be on the surface. A person with Hoffa's background and connections does not get that high up - and stay there - without some assistance from the Man. I particularly liked the last scene with the rat - where the rat runs along a balcony fence - then pauses - then runs the rest of the way across the fence and disappears. Great movie. Masta might not like it though - too many bad guys buy the one way ticket.

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 22 July 2009 Hoffa and the IBT were under federal appointed watch dogs for over 10 years. The one thing the IBT doesn't want is for that to happen again. So, the old mind set that the international offices are mafia controlled is a thing of the past. I'm sure there are IBT locals in places like New York and New Jersey that still have corruption. The feds and the IBT have been dillagent on cleaning house.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 21 July 2009 The names and faces may change, but the song will remain the same! http://www.utu.org/worksite/detail_news.cfm?ArticleID=48068

Name: Sam the Slave E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 21 July 2009 John W. Babler, Victor Baffoni, James R. Cumby and Constantino A. Iannone.....sounds like a list of mafia hit men. Carpenters and painters? CSX just announced a 20% decline in revenue, gigantic job cuts, most recent quarter over last. And the stock price went up?? Hmmmmm. Sounds like more stock market hanky panky to me. Ya'll be carefull of Masta who be twitchin dem money mirrors. Anyone in political office is always a target for someone else. Lotsa inter-union politics going on for a long time. Won't be suprised if Hoffa dont come out King of the Hobos. Then the Feds and the Corporate dog sniffers will be out lookin for Son of Frankenstein,again. Scary Movie #23 and counting.

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 20 July 2009 Cond 30+ Get your facts straight. You shouldn't mention issues you know nothing about. The International Brotherhood of Teamsters and Hoffa kicked out President Hahs of the BLE(T) for using union funds to pay for his families travel expensises on trips that were supposedly union business and using Cleveland Cavilier tickets at his own discresion which were paid for with union funds.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 19 July 2009 UTU catches and kicks out the crooks. BLE led by a guy named Hoffa could care less.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 17 July 2009 Four UTU VPs removed from office CLEVELAND Four UTU International vice presidents have been removed from office by a decision of the Executive Board after having been found guilty of violating the UTU constitution. John W. Babler, Victor Baffoni, James R. Cumby and Constantino A. Iannone were found guilty by the Executive Board of acting in opposition to the established policy of the UTU and having usurped the authority of the [UTU] President in violation of [their] duty as a UTU officer. The four Executive Board members, who were unanimous in their decision, included James A. Huston, chairperson; and members Joe A. Boda, John Risch and Stephen T. Dawson. The board said it reached its decision after reviewing 1,065 pages of transcript and other documents, recordings and exhibits. Numerous charges were brought by rank-and-file members on Feb. 29, 2008. The board declined to remove the four convicted International vice presidents from membership, ruling that such an action is beyond the boards constitutional power. Identical charges against two other International vice presidents and a former UTU national legislative director brought at the same time as charges against the four who were convicted -- were not heard by the Executive Board. Former International Vice Presidents Roy G. Boling and John D. Fitzgerald retired prior to the charges being heard, and former National Legislative Director James R. Brunkenhoefer died prior to the charges being heard. The charges brought against the seven were that they had: Engaged in dual unionism because they had placed personal interests and the interests of another union, the Sheet Metal Workers International Association (SMWIA), ahead of the interests of the UTU, which was contrary to their oaths of office; Conspired to withhold vital information regarding the merger from the membership and were acting as agents of the SMWIA; Acted outside the scope of their authority as outlined in the UTU constitution in their repeated attempts to usurp the powers of the UTU president to interpret the union's constitution and to oversee the affairs of the union, and refused to adhere to official policies established by the union's chief executive officer; and, Violated the UTU constitution and their fiduciary duty by advocating against negotiating a SMART constitution (the constitution to govern a merged UTU and SMWIA, which was to be known as the International Association of Sheet Metal, Air, Rail and Transportation Workers, or SMART), and conducting a new referendum vote on the merger, following a federal court order halting its implementation based on a finding that critical misrepresentations had been made prior to the first referendum. It was also alleged that those charged had made negotiations with the SMWIA - to write a SMART constitution, as suggested by a federal court - impossible because the SMWIA's general president believed he did not have to deal with the UTUs International president. The four convicted officers may appeal the decision under provisions of Article 26 of the UTU constitution. To read the Executive Boards nine-page decision, dated July 10 and released on July 13, click here. July 15, 2009

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 17 July 2009 July 15, 2009 CSX stock closes at $36.95. The rest of the week will it stablize or continue to climb? Has it gone high enough for a sell off? Next week it'll be back down to $30-$32 a share. It isn't normal for a corporations stock to climb that quickly not in this economy. To many issues left to be resolved for an economic rebound. This is just more Wall Street greed. Until the SEC or the goverment stops this short buying/selling of large blocks of shares of corporations this country and the world ecomony is in for a long haul downturn.

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 16 July 2009 CSX stock did go up $2.26 a share yesterday, but it's most likely artificial inflation. CSX did beat Wall Street expectations and Wall Street financial investing firms are going to cash in on it. They'll most likely continue jacking up the price till friday come monday they'll sell off walking away with the profit. This has been going on for the past 4 months. It's hurt the heck out of us buying CSX stock in our 401K or employee stock programs. I'm in for the long haul having invested my entire portfolio in CSX when it was at $23.84 back in March. Having been on the railroad all these years even in difficult times it's made money. The transportation industry is the arteries for the blood flow of this nation if nothing is moving it's a bad sign. Railroads are viable since they haul needed commodities that the trucking industry isn't capable of like coal and grain. Trucking companies are working with railroads to ship containers and goods then the trucks short haul them within a given region instead of cross country. The railroads at one time tried to compete with the trucking industry by buying or forming their own trucking divisions it was a disaster. Corporations should stay in the business of what they know best instead of wasting money on ventures that were purely greed based which during the '90s flopped.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 15 July 2009 Hey Con 1-10: Yeah...your right, beating expectations...whose expectations? Wall Street's, that's who. Who do you think advises the Analyst's? Management perhaps...do you think it might be possible that management deliberately low balls the numbers. Remember, their bonuses are based largely on stock price and other financial performance measures. One final question, whose best interest is it to keep manpower cut to the bear minimum?

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 15 July 2009 In " days of yore", the country wasn't in the middle of the worst economy since the Depression. How many trucking companies are turning a profit at all, compared to a likely billion plus for this year for CSX. The bump in stock price is due to beating expectations, and anticipated future growth.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 15 July 2009 CSX announces their 2nd quarter results and the stock price ends the day up $2.26/share. This is a perfect example of the corporate spin machine...in days of yore, results like this would cost the stock 20% of it value and caused management to feel the heat! CSX Announces Second Quarter Results JACKSONVILLE, Fla., July 13 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Second Quarter Highlights: Earnings per share at 78 cents; 72 cents from continuing operations Productivity and cost cutting efforts continue Operating income at $582 million and operating ratio at 73.4% Safety levels strong, contributing to favorable casualty reserve adjustment CSX Corporation [NYSE: CSX] today announced second quarter earnings of $308 million, or 78 cents a share, versus $385 million, or 93 cents a share, last year. Excluding the impact of discontinued operations related to The Greenbrier resort, earnings per share from continuing operations declined 24 percent from 95 cents to 72 cents. Second quarter revenues of $2.2 billion were down 25 percent from the prior year, primarily due to a 21 percent decline in volume and lower fuel surcharge recovery. Volumes continued to decline across the board, although the rate of decline in the coal market accelerated in the second quarter. "While the economy continues to significantly impact our business, there are some signs that we may be seeing the bottom in many markets," said Michael Ward, president, chairman and CEO. "Even in this difficult business environment, we are still strengthening our operations, optimizing our resources and making the right investments to prepare our network for the future." CSX continued to improve its safety performance, contributing to a further reduction in its casualty reserves of $70 million compared to last year. Combined with the company's cost management efforts and increased network efficiency, operating expenses declined 27%, allowing the company to produce operating income of $582 million and an operating ratio of 73.4 percent for the quarter. "By improving safety, reducing costs and increasing productivity we lessened the impact of the struggling global economy on our business," said Tony Ingram, executive vice president and chief operating officer. "We remained aggressive in right-sizing our train network while still providing reliable service for our customers." CSX Corporation, based in Jacksonville, Fla., is a leading transportation company providing rail, intermodal and rail-to-truck transload services. The company's transportation network spans approximately 21,000 miles with service to 23 eastern states and the District of Columbia, and connects to more than 70 ocean, river and lake ports. This earnings announcement, as well as a package of detailed financial information, is contained in the CSX Quarterly Financial Report available on the company's website at http://investors.csx.com in the Investors section and on Form 8-K with the Securities and Exchange Commission ("SEC"). CSX executives will conduct a quarterly earnings conference call with the investment community on July 14, 2009 at 8:30 a.m. ET. Investors, media and the public may listen to the conference call by dialing 888-327-6279 (888-EARN-CSX) and asking for the CSX earnings call. (Callers outside the U.S., dial 773-756-0199). Participants should dial in 10 minutes prior to the call. In conjunction with the call, a live webcast will be accessible and presentation materials will be posted on the company's website at http://investors.csx.com. Following the earnings call, an internet replay of the presentation will be archived on the company website. 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Name: David E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 13 July 2009 Anyone heard anything about CN buying the Nashville division by September or October? Lets pray shall we.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 13 July 2009 CSX is a joke! I would be ashamed to be an trainmaster! You have no ethics or morals! How do you look at yourself in the mirror? How do you sleep at night? Remember this what comes around goes around!

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 10 July 2009 Blaming unions has been the #1 excuse since the 1980's. In America this country is only 14% union while in Japan 20% of workers are unionized in Germany it's 30%. The biggest difference in American corporations is executive compensation which due to downsizing some CEO's are making 1500 times the average workers wages. I would call that corporate greed. Let's forget the auto industry has short-term memories. They haven't learned from the past this country has experienced gas shortages, gas price inflation ect...which should of signaled the need to get rid of big gas guzzling vehicles like SUV's. Instead the Amerian publics demand has created this down trend. In 1974 after the 1973-4 gas rationing Datsun (Nisson) and Toyota kicked are arse with efficient economical cars. Detroits response was a bunch of clunkers like the Ford Pinto and Chevy Vega. Even today the Big Three are still producing high performance low milage vehicles. It takes on average 2 years to retool auto plants. The American auto industry has been here at least 3 times in the past 30 years.

Name: brad E-mail: Employed as: Car repair, for 10-20 years Posted: 08 July 2009 All i know is that i have some friends that are die hard republicans and every one of them blames the unions for the demise of the auto industrie, None of them will admitt to corprate greed in any industrie,, I know one thing if the republicans had complete control of everything yes you would probably have a job but at slave wages and they would say the usual thing,,,Be glad you have a JOB!!! WALMART and short line scab railroads here we come for those decent wage jobs with the loving managers that go with them.

Name: average joe E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 08 July 2009 okay guys i see alot of bitching about the unions but where i live unions are shit there were two factorys here one union the other not. both manufactured the same product while the union employees did it for an average of two dollars less on the hour and had shittier benifits That is the awesome part about a union in a right to work state unions dont mean a hill of beans here just something to blow your money on. im an electrician by trade and went to a tech school for two years to get an associate of applied science in electrical technology got my license and all was well went to talk to the union and found out it was shit they start you out at shitty pay and pretty much wont let you test up to journeyman without 3 years working in the union paying dues sounds like a fucking scam to me so i never joined for that fact and the other bieng that if you join the union and there next job is on the other side of the country and you dont want to leave your wife and newborn for two years your blackballed and wont work for the union again So in conclusion in a right to work state unions are nothing but a waste of money and time average joe

Name: scar E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 08 July 2009 When the HOS kicks in on July 16th, then CSX will call back all furloughed T&E employees, the lamb shall lie with the lion, butterflies and unicorns will dance and sing in mike ward's backyard, And Barrack Obama will save the economy by borrowing more money to throw at the problem only to miss the target again, and again. Just glad to be living in interesting times. Remember these days...Cuz it ain't ever gonna get better!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 07 July 2009 so have they started calling people back anywhere else?

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Yard Master, for Less than 1 year Posted: 03 July 2009 Regardless of how hard you try..you can't fix stupid!

Name: Steve Gordon E-mail: sgordon@gordon-elias.com Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 30 June 2009 Hello All- I am seeking any information from anyone that knows: (1) about the relationship or contract [if any] between CSX and Goodyear Tire Co. to service/replace and/or repair its Goodyear tires that are utilized, for instance, on backhoes including, but not limited to, (a)is it a national agreement, i.e., are Goodyear tires used in all the CSX operating states?; (b) who at CSX would be the person that would negotiate for CSX with Goodyear on tire purchase and (c)service "after the sale", if any, topics; (2) Is there any studies that CSX did/does and/or that they rely upon for working in the heat and protection of its MofW workers; (3) What is the CSX policy (if there is one) on working conditions (regarding heat exposure) it will allow its MofW workers to be exposed to? If anyone has this knowledge, I would prefer to use my email to receive this information at sgordon@gordon-elias.com instead of a response to this post and I would be extremely grateful to anyone that can shed some light on these issues. You obviously do not need to give your name to me. Thank you all for what you do. Steve Gordon http://www.Gordon-Elias.com

Name: htl E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 28 June 2009 hey sonny,watch your comments about depends.....a fiesty old gal asked me if I wore boxers or briefs.......I told her depends?

Name: Heywood Jablome E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 28 June 2009 Goofy Bend over shove your head up your ass and suffocate. At least it would give a reason for the crap comments coming out of you.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 26 June 2009 Name: Freddie Krueger E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 25 June 2009 My hope and change are doing great! 5 months in a new administration so what did you expect after 8 years of that baffonery? I sent money to his campaign, and to others like minded. I guess if this RR sees that, they will determine I get paid to much if I have money left over to donate to a politician.++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Folk's match this one up with RRJ and you have Dumb and Dumber. Goodness.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 26 June 2009 55k UTU members. At $1.00 per month each. You do the math, pay up sucker the UNION need's a little help. I am not anti union at all. It is time for them to start earning their way! They have not, and will not change, why should they, when the feeders are as dumb as RRJ. I have told this imbacile my story so many times, and he still does not get the message. I feel sorry for a new Conductor that is forced to face such an ignorant, old head. I know he is not the only one, they are everywhere.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 26 June 2009 Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 23 June 2009 Goob That's what you might do sit around and blow farts except now a days you're most likely crapping in your Depends. Most of what you've ever said stinks. Your anti-union retoric that's a broken record it never goes anywhere it just keeps repeating the same line. You've been doing that gig for quite a few years. Your just a disgruntled old man who supposedly couldn't hack the railroad. What other reason would you have to come on to this site? Why don't you tell us? Curious minds want to know. You have no railroad knowledge that is useful today. You don't even have any good stories about your alleged time you supposedly spent on the railroad. Which it's questionable if you ever worked for a railroad. You might of owned a Lionel train set once. Your more of a anti-union propogandist than anything else. Do you go on other sites and preach against unions? Your not very good at it. Were you pissed that in your occupation "cigarette vendor" you weren't unionized? Didn't your mother ever say to you "if you have nothing good to say, don't say anything at all"? That's you Goob it's fits you to the letter. Ever railroad site has their foamer I guess we're stuck with you.----------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------- You hit the nail on the head, you are 100% correct. WOW what in the world are you doing on the RR. Man you should be a BIG DOG.???

Name: Freddie Krueger E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 25 June 2009 My hope and change are doing great! 5 months in a new administration so what did you expect after 8 years of that baffonery? I sent money to his campaign, and to others like minded. I guess if this RR sees that, they will determine I get paid to much if I have money left over to donate to a politician.

Name: Z E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 25 June 2009 Freddie, your absolutley correct about us and the Unions being more active in the political process. It would take awhile to explain how corrupt the system is from the local level all the way to Washington. The railroads have the cash to spread around. The Unions don't even come close. It is disheartining to watch elected officials sell out for the cash, but it happens every day in all levels of government. I've watched many bills passed over the years were no thought was given to the public or the working class. It is amazing to warch these thugs explain why a bill should be passed, when it obivious the working class will take it on the chin again. Politicians are the best spin weavers I've ever seen. I would love to sit down and give first hand accounts with all of you readers, cause I couldn't even begin to tell the story on here it is so long. Just as a small example on a states level. Railroads pool together to hire a lobbyist, full time. They have plenty of cash to donate to politicians, which in turn, buys a favorable vote for the railroads. They don't even have to donate money to all of the crooks, since it does not take but usually 60 to 80 votes to get a bill introdued, depending on which state your in. Now you have a Union SLD that works for a living and who is expected to lobby for the Unions point of few. He/she has very few dollars to spread around, so the RR's usually win.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years Posted: 25 June 2009 Politically how is all of that hope and change doing now?

Name: Freddie Krueger E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 25 June 2009 Without unions, these companies will backslide in a hurry, even the child labor laws would be repealed. We need to get busy on all fronts, especially politically.

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 23 June 2009 Goob That's what you might do sit around and blow farts except now a days you're most likely crapping in your Depends. Most of what you've ever said stinks. Your anti-union retoric that's a broken record it never goes anywhere it just keeps repeating the same line. You've been doing that gig for quite a few years. Your just a disgruntled old man who supposedly couldn't hack the railroad. What other reason would you have to come on to this site? Why don't you tell us? Curious minds want to know. You have no railroad knowledge that is useful today. You don't even have any good stories about your alleged time you supposedly spent on the railroad. Which it's questionable if you ever worked for a railroad. You might of owned a Lionel train set once. Your more of a anti-union propogandist than anything else. Do you go on other sites and preach against unions? Your not very good at it. Were you pissed that in your occupation "cigarette vendor" you weren't unionized? Didn't your mother ever say to you "if you have nothing good to say, don't say anything at all"? That's you Goob it's fits you to the letter. Ever railroad site has their foamer I guess we're stuck with you.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 23 June 2009 If your best option is the status as it is today, Why bother. Just go to work and try to find the handle on that sword, strike when you have the chance, and things will not only get worse, but much worse. Old heads will never be at the front, they will always lay back, take a sip of hot coffee and tell you how thing were, and should be. Then let a large fart, caugh twice, and then tell the youngins to get with it, go to meeting, pay up, and shut up. THAT IS THE PROBLEM.

Name: htlong E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 21 June 2009 dont bet on it...these thugs will resort to early 20th century tactics with the local law enforcment as their private army. mikey and tony will stop at nothing beware your best option is to work by the rules,forget about how much walking you will have to do,stab them with their own sword!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 20 June 2009 Fired=No Trains.

Name: htlong E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 17 June 2009 send no $=fired......?

Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years Posted: 17 June 2009 This may also help Mr.Smith http://www.trainlawblog.com/2009/02/federal-railroad-safety-act-1/frsas-sharp-teeth-starting-to-bite-railroads/ http://www.osha.gov/dep/oia/whistleblower/acts/frsa.html http://railroadworkersunited.org/sites/rwu.prometheuslabor.com/files/CSX%20Harrassment%20FRA%20Report.pdf

Name: csmith E-mail: Employed as: Engine repair, for 1-10 years Posted: 17 June 2009 does anyone have a phone number of an FRA AGENT in Georiga, I had an injury requiring surgery, and was told at my investigation during a break, that if I only reported one injury, the plant manager would have a talk with me when I got back to work, making me think I would keep my job, but they fired me anyway. They only reported one injury and showed the second injury as non reportable

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year Posted: 16 June 2009 I am so glad working in an environment now where someones hard work ethic is appreciated. I left this crap hole this past year. CSX can honestly go to hell. UTU and the BLE can follow them...:0) I honestly felt while I was there that I did a serious crime and I was assigned community service, but just got paid for it. But of course, I worked in the Baltimore Terminal. From what I here, I heard other trainmasters around the system (even the REDI Center) threatens employees who do something wrong that they will send them to Baltimore if they do something else wrong. LMAOOOO HAVE A SAFE CSX DAY!!!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 16 June 2009 Has anyone called pest control at Curtis Bay yet??

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 16 June 2009 Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 13 June 2009 You keep spouting that same old retoric. You can't seem to get it through that tiny cranium that on CSX it's now closed shops. Even the engineers as of 2007 became a closed shop. No more non-union employees. The unions have people right where they want them paying for nothing in return. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX RRJ you are exactly right, I have said it over and over again. Your response has been the same thing over and over, until now. Someone must have hit you in the head with a union receipt. Closed shop my arse, send no money must mean no CREW. Well that is fine. No crew no trains, yep let Obama handle it. Remember the UTU has 55k members If they each pay $1.00 per month =$55,000.00 You do the math. Paying for nothing, and admitting it is a milestone in it's self.

Name: Just out of training E-mail: BaddA$$MoFoMastah@csx.net Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 16 June 2009 Wow. all you guys got is bad spelling as a comback? Hay guys why don't you stop worring about my spelling and worry about those extra inches your womens been looking for all these years. Summer time is coming and its time to have those BBQs Why don't you invite me over and we will get to know each other. While Im there I'll give those extra inches to your womens she been missing all these years. When God made me he told me I had two choices. You can be a master at word smithing or you can have a big male member. I asked, "Well what will open up doors for success?" He said, well having good grammar and spelling will certainly get you thru the door. But if your grammar sucks and also your spelling, and they try to shut the door, you can block it open with your big dick. Oh buy the way, when I come over tell your wife to wear those tight short shorts :) Have a safe day

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 15 June 2009 Alright trainmaster if that is a real post and your such a bad ass whats your name.

Name: Just out of training E-mail: BaddA$$MoFoMastah@csx.net Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 15 June 2009 Im a new trainmaster fresh out of training. Im 26 years old and got this job at a job semminar at my Commuity College. If any of you give me any shit you will help me make a name for myself. They taught me well and I know exactly what to do. I have a very big spoon over my shoulder the size of a spike puller. If you people hide or ignore me I will start sturring this spoon till someone or ones rise to the top of the tird pool. I will test you. If you don't like it I will fire your ass! Oh ya, If I see anyone wearing BLACK or if you are Black on June 19th YOU ARE FIRED! Have a safe day :)

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 14 June 2009 I tell you what. I am so glad I have left this place..:0) CSX is horrible. Their management needs to realize "The way you treat your people is the type of work ethic you will get in return"!!! Then the low life union (other wise known as the UTU) took close to $400.00 out of my vacation paycheck this week!!!! And what the hell have they done for me in the last 6 months besides tell me what they are trained to say (they can do that, they can do that, they can do that, they can do that,etc...over and over again)?? HELL, WHAT THE F DID THEY DO FOR ME MY WHOLE 4 year CAREER??? Both the BLET and UTU are in the companies left hand pocket!!! That place is the biggest joke. So I can not wait to see what they take out of my second vacation paycheck for 6/19/09-6/27/09 but I will definitely keep you up to date on just how much our (more like yours now) unions are low lives (UTU & BLE). I have said it before and I will say it again (like my mother said), That place is for prison inmates who just got out of prison and looking for a career!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! For you old guys and mid-career guys (and gals), I understand, your putting in your time to get your pention. Most importantly, you started when this place was a GREAT place to work at. But you new guys?? What the hell are you thinking about?? Honestly?? This place is TTTHHHEEEEE biggest joke. And what more proof do you need when this site was sued by CSX and went to court and this site/owner WON??? HHHEEELLLOOOOOOO???????? When you work for a place that has a web site that goes in depth about how bad it is, then that web site gets sued by the company, AND THEN THE WEB SITE WINS??? What more proof do you need that you are working for/in a bad environment?? But I had a guy who worked in my terminal who was SHOT (YES, GUN, SHOT) twice and out of service. I thought you had to pass a background check to get into this job?? Criminal background check at that. Again, that place was a joke and I could go on and on and on...I just want to say, I made some great friendships at CSX among my so-called brothers and sisters (BLT & UTU, just not the the reps BECAUSE I WAS SMART). And I hope the best for all of you non-management people. For you management people, I work M-F, make just as much as you do, and you know where you can go. Oh, by the way, I do not get called at 2:00a.m. for a derailment caused by another idiotic, inner-city kid by my a manager (Superintendant in your case) and I do not get called period when I leave the office..LMAOOOO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And I am working M-F, do not get called by an ignorant caller who my 7 year old's IQ is higher than, etc. (Again, ON AND ON AND ON AND ON)...LMAO When it comes to CSX callers and management, lets face it, it doesn't take much!!!LMAOOOOOO By all means, I am not bragging (just to CSX LOW LIFE MANAGEMENT).. Good luck to you older guys. This is one (and an on-going) hell of a transition you must be going through from your earlier years. For you younger guys, get out while you can. Realize the schooling/$4800 was a waste and move on to another career. I am now working for the gov't and I am going to the aviation school of maintenance. I plan on being a mechanic in the aviation industry and having my engineering degree within two years (80 credits to go)....:0) Good luck and god bless..:0)

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 13 June 2009 You keep spouting that same old retoric. You can't seem to get it through that tiny cranium that on CSX it's now closed shops. Even the engineers as of 2007 became a closed shop. No more non-union employees. The unions have people right where they want them paying for nothing in return.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 12 June 2009 kyle, I can from experience tell you that from 1963 until I left the RR in 1970. we lost 1 engineer and that was it. Investigations were really common and the worker returned to work, slap on the wrist and that was it. The railroad was afraid of the BLE,BRT,BRC,SUNA,BLF&E,. The RR turned all of these into puppets. Take the money we send and the money they send and prosper. Well it has now dried up, and getting even drier. What is amazing to me, members are still paying up for what??? It is Your money, throw it at the problem if ya want.

Name: kyle E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years Posted: 11 June 2009 I met a old retired dude in a club the other day, hes like 93 yrs old and used to be a LC for the former prr, Well we got to talking railroad talk and he told me back in those good ole days that it was rare for a LC to lose a trial or investagtion, He told me he never lost a case to the company and that todays union reps are pansys that have no balls at all, I dont know if i believe him but his 2 sons own a law firm.

Name: Steve Gordon E-mail: sgordon@gordon-elias.com Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 09 June 2009 Dear Safety Strike- I agree with EVERYTHING you said. ------------------- Dear APE- I took the liberty of posting your most important post here: http://www.yardlimits.com/forums/ask-attorney-steve-gordon-gordon-elias-law-firm/13276-railroad-workers-united-june-19th.html#post123340 Our firm will be joining you all. ------------------- Dear Just one more law firm searching for business???? I would ask that you not generalize please. Steve

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 09 June 2009 Here's a good one. I work an RCO superjob, mainly moving engines for outbound and inbound trains. Now when I tie engines together I give myself 3 step every time on my box, but I don't say anything over the radio because its just me. To weeks ago a trainmaster pulled up and asked why I'm not announcing 3 step, I said "Announcing to who, myself"? He asked me if I had watched this months safety video, I said no, he said before you leave today come upstairs and watch it. So I finish my work, watch my video and go home. A week later I get a certified letter with a major rule violation, obtaining 3 step protection, take it to a board, then of course loose, now I'm on a 10 day suspension. I'm leaving the railroad because of this, I've been denied claims and E test failed for petty things but I'll not stand for this, dreading work everyday is no way to make a living and theres no way I'm doing it for 25 more years. Guys if you can get out then get out I already feel better.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 09 June 2009 Name: Steve Gordon E-mail: sgordon@gordon-elias.com Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 08 June 2009 Hey man you do not have to beg for business, just do what the site expects, Post a Few Results. Yep you are welcome to cut and paste. You may want to show em to get them. These folks are not dumb, they all read very well. Since you are needing a little more business at your boutique, this is called Show and Tell. I am LISTENING! If you have never had a good result, tell them, they may give you a shot, once you come clean they will respect that.

Name: Steve Gordon E-mail: sgordon@gordon-elias.com Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 08 June 2009 Dear Been Here too Long- What did you say? Steve

Name: Steve Gordon E-mail: sgordon@gordon-elias.com Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 08 June 2009 Dear All- Thank you for the honest responses. I will tell you that we work VERY hard and since there are only two lawyers in our "boutique" law firm you've always got a named partner on your case (LOL!). Seriously, I was hoping to get the responses I received. I think the concept of unions, on paper, are a necessary thing. Lord knows the company has your back alright...to stick a knife in it. So, Unions are a necessary evil...sort of like lawyers! I must say whatever tune we had to sing to get designated was the wrong one we chose. I swear I thought that (1) getting excellent results; (2) making sure the railroader was only treated by Board Certified physicians; (3) advancing money interest free [where ethically permitted to do so so the client could pay their bills]; (4) giving the client the lawyer's cell phone in case they NEED to talk to their lawyer; (5) never settling more than one case ata time instead of "group case settlements" and (6) busting the railroad's ass with a 'take-no-prisoner' mentality and approach would have been enough to get our name in the hat. BUT I WAS WRONG! So...here we are...not able to just call someone up when they are hurt but having to wait till they call us. Please do not get me wrong, we have good business. But I just needed to know that we had a fighting chance in the minds' of railroaders without the designation. Thanks again!

Name: Ed E-mail: edward.oliver@gmail.com Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 1-10 years Posted: 08 June 2009 Union Pacific is the same way. Make a profit above all else.

Name: Steve Gordon E-mail: sgordon@gordon-elias.com Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 07 June 2009 Dear All- I have a question and since this is about as anonymous a place to post as one can get in the railroad industry, I thought I would ask here so here goes. As you probably are aware, our firm http//www.gordon-elias.com is not Union Designated. That is, we do FELA work but we were unable to do whatever the heck was necessary to get anointed by a Union Designation from the "higher-ups". You can see and hear my explanation at http://www.gordon-elias.com/CM/Custom/Unions.asp as to what happened. Here is my question: If you were hurt, would you consider hiring a "non-union designated" FELA law firm? If not, why not and if so, why so? The courtesy of a straight answer would be GREATLY appreciated and thank you. Steve Gordon

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 07 June 2009 It doesn't matter about the former railroads. C&O was a good railroad before the CSX merger. As employees we're not even in the equation. CSX took the position that all agreements under the former railroads would be schidt canned. The unions went along. I will say something about you former Conrail boys at least you didn't cowtow to the BLET SSA Agreement. Which it's humorous to think the single system agreement only applies to 3/4 of CSX. It's a play on words.

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 07 June 2009 NoMo I don't the story and pictures will make it in "Hustlers Beaver Hunt". I do think the railroad could make it as "Asshole of the month".

Name: KYLE E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years Posted: 06 June 2009 Lets face it brothers the class ones are billion dollar companys and they could care rats ass about how thier work force fells towards them, all we are is a number to them and that number can be replaced very easy,, But i must admitt when it was still CONRAIL they did have a labor-managment program going and it was doing very well too untill the ns-csx takeover, That program was deleted right away by the new pricks, All i can say is conrail did and was bridging the labor - managment gap. Ie they did care about us in a way.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 06 June 2009 Management always points their finger at T&E. The short boys are no different than the Class 1S. This sounds like the spin Doctors in Jacksonville! Destroyed beaver dams blamed for derailment MATTAWA, Ont. - The destruction of three beaver dams is being blamed for a train derailment that caused more than 15,000 litres (3,900 gallons) of fuel to spill into the Ottawa River Wednesday (June 3), according to the company that owns the train and the Canadian Press. A spokeswoman for Ottawa Valley Railway said the train went off the tracks when it reached a remote area near Mattawa, Ont. 60 kilometres (36 miles) east of North Bay, Ont. at around 3 a.m. Wednesday. The train encountered 200 metres (220 yards) of washed-out tracks and two locomotives and six cars went off the tracks, said officials. A board spokeswoman with the Transportation Safety Board said one of the cars ended up in the river, causing the fuel spill. It was not immediately clear how the beaver dams had been destroyed. Officials said the train's two-person crew suffered minor injuries. Three investigators from the Transportation Safety Board were sent to the scene to determine whether the agency will launch an investigation. (This item was distributed June 5, 2009, by the Canadian Press.) June 5, 2009

Name: Matt Sanders E-mail: Snitch@IloveJasonsanus.com Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 06 June 2009 I agree Mike. Screw these guys. The company route is the only way to go. They always win anyway. Plus, they said they would get green cards for the rest of my girlfriends family to migrate over here in the states. I am 100 percent behind that...Stay safe...

Name: Mike Edmonson E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 05 June 2009 I am a company kiss ass. I think this place is great!!!

Name: old rr guy E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 05 June 2009 Haa.I gotta say. I do not beleive that most of the posters on here actually work for the railroad. On second thought some of the whining does sound vaguely familiar. Example#1: "I can't believe they laid me off after only four months." C'Mon this guy can't be serious. I was laid off more than I worked the first three years I was employed by Conrail. Then, as now there was a huge recession on . No cars were being bought,steel mills were closing up thus no steel was being made, etc, etc.Thousands of cars and engines stored.Thousands laid off. Its a freight railroad. If the freight is down , theres no work. It is not a mystery or someome playing a game with your life. No one put a gun to your head to sign up. Get used to the lousy hours, and sporadic work, you will be living it with no seniority.Otherwise, hang it up and do something else.They are not going to treat you like anything other than an hourly employee. You will not like some of the people you work with. Sorry to rain on your parade. Its a business , not a jobs program.Feel bad for the guys in Buffalo where I started. I am surprised they didn't close down most of the Frontier operation a lot sooner, after the 99 split with NS

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 05 June 2009 Mr. Gordon probably explained a very complex ruling as well as he could considering our limited working knowledge of the law. If I understand correctly, because the Plaintiff's Attorney failed to include a charge to the jury, the award was overturned and sent back down. Had the Plaintiff's Attorney included the charge, would they still have won? Who knows...it's a crap shoot. Is the Plaintiff's Attorney guilty of malpractice because he didn't include the charge? He also stated and rightfully so..."and the Court makes up its mind after hearing argument of counsel [and maybe, if you're lucky, actually reading the law]." All Attorneys are not created equal, Some are very good, some are so-so and the rest are bad. If you don't believe me, stop by your County Courthouse and look around...it won't take you long to see the difference. If you ever need to hire an Attorney, the first question you should ask is does he have Professional Liability (Malpractice) Insurance and if so what is the limit. If he doesn't find someone else. In the following case, also overturned by the Supreme Court: http://supreme.justia.com/us/431/145/case.html The Judge was at fault for not including the charge to the jury. A lot of Judges depend on their Law Clerks to research the law for them. In particular, Federal Judges are appointed for life by the President and once appointed don't have to answer to anyone. Again, some are very good and others depend on their Law Clerks to tell what the law is. Just remember...the Law is written by Lawyers, enacted by Lawyers, argued by Lawyers, interpreted by Lawyers, ruled on by Lawyers and finally appealed to lawyers. Shakespeare had it right...The First Thing We Do, Lets Kill All the Lawyers

Name: Steve Gordon E-mail: sgordon@gordon-elias.com Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 04 June 2009 Dear Sam, Z, Safety Strike and All Others That Are Interested- I apologize for not responding sooner. I posted the Press Release and just checked back just now [0018HRS---06/04/09]. Anyway, I would like to point out that it was not our firm that handled any part of this case. I think that the underlying firm did an admirable job to get a $5 million dollar JURY award. I have only had one in my professional career and I can tell you they are very hard to get no matter what the damages. So, in that sense, they are to be commended. I was not at the trial and I am only speaking from conjecture. However, having said that, I would like to point out some basic trial "truths" that go through a trial lawyer's wacked out brain. It is hard enough to get a verdict that is sizeable, you kind of want to do everything you can at the trial level to hold on to it when it is appealed. The general consensus on the modus operandi of the railroads are that, anytime you get a sizeable verdict, they will appeal. Hence, protecting your trial record is an all important process ever-present in the back of a trial lawyer's brain during the entire process including, but certainly not limited to, (1)juror selection, (2)medical causation issues [usually dealing with the famous Daubert case, and its progeny, at the federal level], (3)the sufficiency of evidence to support the individual elements of damages, (4)the sufficiency of liability evidence and, (5)as in the CSX v. Hensley case, the wording of the charge. Obviously, CSX prepared the "genuine and serious" instruction and the Plaintiff's counsel argued against it. Sometimes, just to protect your verdict, you will actually let the defendant's proposed instruction go to the jury. This is when you truly believe you've got the jury and there is almost no instruction that will persuade them not to go with you. This is only a call that the trial lawyer can make. The general rule is to try to submit a "plaintiff's favorable" charge and the defense submits their "defendant's favorable" charge and the Court makes up its mind after hearing argument of counsel [and maybe, if you're lucky, actually reading the law]. The CSX lawyers read Ayers as "requiring" the extra instruction, I could easily see how the Plaintiff's lawyer could have been worried that its inclusion could have been an obstacle for the jury to award big damages. It was a call he/she made and they won...at least till it got to the Supreme Court level. From reading the CSX v. Hensley case, Hensley had asbestosis from a long term exposure from working on the railroad. A reading of the Ayers opinion reveals: Norfolk presented the question whether a plaintiff who has asbestosis but not cancer can recover damages for fear of cancer under the FELA with-out proof of physical manifestations of the claimed emotional distress. Our answer is yes, with an important reservation. We affirm only the qualification of an asbestosis sufferer to seek compensation for fear of cancer as an element of his asbestosis-related pain and suffering damages. It is incumbent upon such a complainant, however, to prove that his alleged fear is genuine and serious. Norfolk v. Ayers, at 157, 123 S.Ct. 1210 After reading the above, if you had been Hensley's counsel, would you have vehemently argued for its exclusion? How about if you knew that, if it was excluded, that you would risk a reversal on appeal....would you still argue for its exclusion? .......Tough call isn't it? I can not fault the trial lawyer in this decision. I do have one issue that I would like to raise. There are many articles on the following point and they go either way. There is, I believe, a consensus of opinion of good trial lawyers that your 'bigger' awards are usually found with a general damage submission rather than specific damage questions. I will be more specific so you will understand. In some instances you can submit to the jury damage questions like this: "'What sum of money, if paid now in cash, do you award for medical expenses, loss of wages, loss of earning capacity, physical pain and suffering, mental anguish, physical impairment, physical disfigurement' Answer in Dollars & Cents $__________" OR, one could submit it this way: "'What sum of money, if paid now in cash, do you award for medical expenses $_________, loss of wages and/or loss of earning capacity $_____________, physical pain and suffering $__________, mental anguish $___________, physical impairment $__________, physical disfigurement $________' Answer in Dollars & Cents." The latter way permits the trial court, or the appellate court, to take away one element with out disturbing the remainder of the award. The Hensley case was a general/broad submission and, therefore, there was no way for the Supreme Court to determine what part of the $5 million was attributed to the "fear of cancer" award. Once, the Supreme Court determined the CSX proffered instruction should have been given, the ENTIRE case had to be reversed and remanded. This could have been different. Once again, the general belief among trial lawyers that are worth a damn is that bigger awards are found in the one damge line approach BUT......when CSX was denied an instruction that arguably should have been given, don't you think the trial lawyer might have "re-visited" the one line submission before it went to the jury? Well, I do not know if any of the above helps understand this case a little better. I think it was Sam that said something like "Whats the bottom line?" Here it is: A FELA claimant that seeks 'fear of cancer' monetary damages needs to put on evidence that his/her fear is 'genuine and serious' AND submit an 'instruction' worded as such. I do not believe you have to have psychological/psychiatric testimony but I know, if I had a client where this was an issue, I would damn sure make sure the client visited with a a psyche doctor so they could testify how genuine and serious the fear is. Ya'll take care out there and be safe. Steve http://www.gordon-elias.com ps-the Hensley opinion can be downloaded at: http://www.yardlimits.com/forums/legal-news-announcements/12920-csx-v-thursten-hensley-signiificant-u-s-sup-ct-court-fela-decision.html

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 04 June 2009 How about the biggest bag of money. Boyd can tell you first hand about that scenario. LOL

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 04 June 2009 Whoever goes on the most golf junkets to exotic locations!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 04 June 2009 Definitions of designated 1. [adj] - selected or named for a duty I wonder who did the selecting or naming?

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 04 June 2009 Though we have many railroad workers, we are non union-designated lawyers. Our goal is to help you recover full and fair compensation for all your losses. We will not recommend to settle your lawsuit quickly for pennies on the dollar. Yes, there is an economic benefit to our firm to successfully representing you but our paramount concern is your outcome not ours! /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Straight from the website. They aren't designated FELA lawyers although they advertise they are in the add that's placed here, as shown below. 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 Nationwide FELA Law Firm You Do Have A Choice From a Designated Legal Counsel-Call 800-773-6770 ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; Another twist on words? I guess this group designated themselves. Now to most of us, we consider designated to mean having ties to the unions. http://www.ble.org/fela/felasearch.asp http://www.utu.org/worksite/counseldir.htm I think I may advertise as expert instead of designated, if I were them.

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 03 June 2009 I like it. Bog this website down with cut and pasting. Maybe the poster is tired of the BS of certian people who like C&P critizing every person's point of view. Keep up the good work.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 03 June 2009 Get the point yet.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 03 June 2009 (Norfolk Southern issued the following on June 1, 2009.) NORFOLK, Va. On the 10th anniversary of Norfolk Southern Corporation's acquisition of nearly 60 percent of Conrail, CEO Wick Moorman today thanked customers, suppliers, stockholders, communities, and employees for their hard work and support. "On Day One -- June 1, 1999 -- we set out to build the best freight transportation system in the world," Moorman said. "We have made steady progress toward that goal, and together we have enjoyed a decade of growth and financial success. All of us at Norfolk Southern are grateful to everyone who has played a part in this success, and we look forward to what the next decade brings." Since Day One, when Norfolk Southern added 7,200 miles of Conrail routes and 10,000 former Conrail employees to its system, the railroad has moved 3.5 trillion gross ton-miles of freight. A single train of every carload NS hauled in the last decade could stretch to the moon and back twice -- and then some. In order to meet increased demand and better serve customers, NS over that period has invested nearly $10 billion in capital expenditures to improve track, equipment, facilities, and technology. In new rail alone, NS installed the equivalent of a brand new transcontinental railroad. NS' industrial development activities since Day One resulted in the location or expansion of 1,115 industries along the railroad's lines, representing customer investments of $23.6 billion and creating nearly 55,000 customer jobs in the territory served by the railroad. The Conrail transaction returned competitive rail service to the Northeast for the first time in 20 years. NS sharpened its focus on customer service markedly following the transaction -- especially through its Thoroughbred Operating Plan -- and today is the industry's service benchmark. Most important, it all has been done safely. NS employees have earned the E.H. Harriman Memorial Gold Medal as the safest railroad workers in the U.S. for each of the last 20 years. "The numbers tell an impressive story, but as satisfying as it is to see how far we've come, it's more exciting to look ahead," Moorman said. "Our progress has given us the strength to weather the current economic storm. This recession will pass, and the long-term future for rail as the safe, clean, and fuel-efficient transportation alternative has never been brighter. NS is ready to take advantage of the opportunities that a recovering economy will bring. Ten years from now, along with our partners, we will look back again with amazement at how far we've come together." Norfolk Southern Corporation (NYSE: NSC) is a leading North American transportation provider. Its Norfolk Southern Railway subsidiary operates approximately 21,000 route miles in 22 states and the District of Columbia, serves every major container port in the eastern United States, and provides efficient connections to other rail carriers. Norfolk Southern operates the most extensive intermodal network in the East and is a major transporter of coal and industrial products. Tuesday, June 02, 2009

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 03 June 2009 Railroad accidents have terrible consequences, safety advocates say (The following story by Nicole Printz appeared on the Abilene Recorder Chronicle website on June 2, 2009. T.A. LaCombe is a member of BLET Division 261 in Herington, Kan.) ABILENE, Texas When people think of train collisions, they generally think of train crossings. Thomas LaCombe, Union Pacific train engineer and a presenter for Operation Lifesaver, is raising awareness about trespassing incidents. Operation Lifesaver had a car crushed in a train collision and displays at Flour Power Family Fun Fest this past weekend. LaCombe stressed the importance of railroad safety in Abilene. There are two major railroad companies that run though Abilene, he said. The multiple tracks through Abilene increase the risk for train collisions, either at crossings or trespassing incidents. Railroads are private property, he said. Almost everyone crosses railways at some point. There were 2,000 people killed on the rail right of ways last year. In Kansas last year nine people were injured and four people killed on railroad property, according to the Federal Railroad Association. LaCombe explained that many people do not think that fishing on a railroad bridge or walking on tracks is trespassing. The only legal place to cross a railroad track is at designated public crossings. Children are often fascinated with trains and will cross underneath stopped trains. LaCombe was starting a train and noticed movement in the rearview mirrors. There were three children playing underneath the cars. If he hadnt noticed them, the children probably would have been severely injured or killed. Dont set things on the track. A railroad spike set on the track can derail a train, LaCombe said. If the train is carrying federal property and is derailed it becomes a federal incident. Coins placed on the tracks can be flung with great speed when run over, potentially injuring someone. Drivers make poor decisions that lead to accidents as well. The railroads have their own police, he explained. If I see someone go around the gates I am required to report that. Going around crossing gates is illegal, and you can be ticketed even if the gates have been down for several days. If gates are down for no apparent reason, look on the crossbuck or near the crossing for the toll free number posted near every crossing. Trains can crush cars as easily as a car can crush a pop can. If your car dies on the tracks, walk toward the direction the train is coming from. LaCombe said. If you walk the other way, the train could knock your car into you. There are no accidents with trains, executive director Darlene Osterhaus said. The train doesnt come off the tracks and hunt you down. LaCombe is available for free presentations for children and adults interested in learning more about train safety. Visit www.oli.org or call 1-800-537-6224 to schedule a presentation. Tuesday, June 02, 2009

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 03 June 2009 Heads up new employees!!! Unless you have at least 7-10 years of service, time to dust off the old resumes... CSX plans to continue running on skeleton crews thru the July hours of service law change, and if they can still move their trains... yup, you guessed it... MORE FURLOUGHS!!! Get out now while you can...

Name: Sam E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 03 June 2009 Mr. Gordon, could you please respond to Safety STike's request about providing more info on the Hensley case? Name: SAFETY STRIKE E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 03 June 2009 Nice WSJ article, Z, but we need to hear MUCH more in the way of specifics from the law firm that handled the case. We need to know more of the facts of Mr. Hensley's case. He had brain cancer (?) and lung cancer (asbestosis) from exposure to toxic chemicals....what chemicals? How much exposure? What was the causative connection? . He had cancer(?), or he had symptoms of it (?), or he had a fear of the symptoms (?), or he had a fear of pending death from cancer, or.....something else was pleaded? It makes a difference. It is odd that the Court would not consider that Hensley had no fear of cancer (or a fear of dying for that matter) if he had no present ongoing stage one cancer. The Ayers standard for fear of cancer was 'proof of their apprehension of developing lung cancer in the future', which indicated that one did not need to actually have cancer, but had symptoms that could lead to cancer (plural plaques, cysts, high white cell blood count) but not actual cancer itself. Is the court saying something different? Is there now a higher standard based on something else? If so, what is that something else? What is the legal standard now for fear of cancer under FELA? Higher than merely apprehension, or apprehensions with associated predictive medical conditions. What is the standard now for 'genuine and serious'?. How high is the standard?. What would be threshhold examples? Is there a balancing test? What did Ayers say that the Court relied upon - or did not rely upon? Fear of cancer is fairly common in asbestos cases, and the standard is not "high".....seems like the FELA plaintiffs lawyers may have left the door open for a company friendly conservative court to come in and restate the rule of law. Why is FELA different from any other non-FELA fear of cancer case where brain cancer and asbestos related cancer are at issue? CSX argued that the instructions given to the jury were too friendly to Mr. Hensley - the jurors were ot instructed that Hensley needed to demonstrate that his fear of cancer was genuine and serious. How so? Is it simply a matter of issuing a jury instruction, or does plaintiff have to add additional facts to prove his case? "Although plaintiffs can seek fear-of-cancer damages in some...cases, they must satisfy a high standard in order to obtain them,". Ok, great. Ok, so again, what exactly meets the Court's definition of a "high standard" when seeking fear of cancer damages. Did Hensley win on other aspects of his case? What were they? Did he prove that his cancers (?) were caused to his exposure to toxic chemicals and to asbestos? Anything else this law firm can SPECIFICALLY tell us about the case would be EXTREMELY beneficial to every single railraod worker employed by CSX as well as the other carriers. We may be railroard workers, but we read these cases, and we like to know exactly what is going on. Thanks.

Name: z E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year Posted: 03 June 2009 Court rules for CSX in worker-injury case WASHINGTON -- The U.S. Supreme Court Monday (June 1) threw out a $5 million jury verdict awarded to a former CSX Corp. railroad worker who alleged that he had been negligently exposed to toxic chemicals and asbestos on the job, which caused him to develop brain injuries and asbestosis, a lung disease. Among other things, Tennessee railroad worker Thurston Hensley sought monetary damages for a fear of developing cancer in the future, The Wall Street Journal reported. CSX argued that the instructions given to the jury were too friendly to Mr. Hensley. The company wanted jurors to be instructed that Mr. Hensley needed to demonstrate that his fear of cancer was genuine and serious. The Supreme Court, in an unsigned opinion, ruled 7-2 that it was a "clear error" for the trial judge not to give the jury instructions CSX requested. "Although plaintiffs can seek fear-of-cancer damages in some...cases, they must satisfy a high standard in order to obtain them," the court's majority said. In dissent, Justice John Paul Stevens said, "As a practical matter, it is hard to believe the jury would have awarded any damages for Hensley's fear of cancer if it did not believe that fear to be genuine and serious." The Supreme Court decided the case without requesting a full legal briefing or hearing oral arguments, a sign that a majority of the justices believed the lower-court ruling was clearly wrong. The high court sent the case back for new court proceedings. CSX didn't immediately respond to a request for comment. (The preceding article by Brent Kendall was published June 1, 2009, by The Wall Street Journal.)

Name: Z E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 02 June 2009 Hmmmmmm, 30 years as a locomotive engineer with unlimited time to post as a obvious impostor of the craft and possibly not even a rail employee. Well boys, I'll be gone a few days to BLE meetings, seeing real engineers and designated FLEA lawyers. We will have printed material to read, but we will only have to read it once instead of six times.

Name: Sam E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 02 June 2009 Mr. Gordon, The Supreme Court opinion is most interesting, but could you possibly put it into the context of the King's English so that the majority of non-lawyers on this site can understand what the case means to them? Is the ruling applicable to asbestos disease cases only, or also to toxic chemicals, fumes, and exhaust as well. Is it just lung cancer, or does the fear of cancer extend to all types of cancer. Does a worker have to prove that he or she has stage one carcinoma, or is it enough to simply know that you have had exposure to a target group of carcinogenic causing chemicals to be at risk of cancer, thus have a "genuine and serious" fear of cancer? Much appreciated.

Name: Steve Gordon E-mail: sgordon@gordon-elias.com Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 02 June 2009 ***PRESS RELEASE*** Significant Decision Affecting Rights of Injured FELA Workers On Monday, June 1st, the United States Supreme Court decided a case styled CSX Transportation, Inc. v Thurston Hensley 2009 WL 1506680 (U.S. June 1, 2009)). This case demonstrated the conservativeness of the Supreme Court, and their determination to exclude injured workers from recovering. The Supreme Court relied heavily upon a previously decided case, i.e., Norfolk & Western R. Co. v Ayers (538 U.S. 135). Ayers held that a plaintiff may recover for fear of cancer if he proves his fear is genuine and serious. Once the plaintiff has provided proof of their apprehension of developing lung cancer in the future, the law will provide compensation for those damages. At issue in the Hensley case was whether it was proper for the trial court to deny CSX its requested juror instructions. CSX requested the following instruction to be part of the charge: Charge One stated the basic requirements to obtain damages under Ayers. Plaintiff is also alleging that he suffers from a compensable fear of cancer. In order to recover, Plaintiff must demonstrate that the fear is genuine and serious. Hensley first sued CSX in Tennessee state court. At the close of the trial, CSX requested an instruction that Hensley needed to have shown his fear of getting cancer was genuine and serious. The trial court refused to allow the instruction. The Tennessee Court of Appeals affirmed, stating that they saw no purpose in instructing the jurors. If the jurors did not believe the plaintiff was genuine and serious in his fears, then little to no damages would be awarded to him. The Hensley court held the ruling of the Tennessee Court of Appeals and the refusal of the trial court to give the juror instructions were clear error. In Ayers, the Court expressly recognized that several verdict control devices were available to the trial court when a FELA plaintiff sought fear-of-cancer damages. One of the verdict control devices included that on a defendant's request, each plaintiff must prove any alleged fear to be genuine and serious. In Hensley, the trial court erred when it refused CSXs request for a juror instruction on the genuine-and-serious standard of Hensleys fear of cancer claim. The Hensley Court held that instructing the jury on fear of cancer damages would have been worthwhile. Given the fact that the cancer claim could have the potential to evoke raw emotions among the jurors made the need for a juror instruction on the legal standard even more vital. The Hensley Court somehow felt the need to bring up the numerous asbestos cases pending as a way of justifying the estimation of damages for plaintiffs. Their choice to bring up the cases was irrelevant and unnecessary. An interesting aspect to this case is found in the dissent. Justice Stevens, who had voted to affirm the Supreme Court decision in Ayers, displayed his contempt for the decision in this case. He stated that the new ruling authorized a fresh review of the jurys damages award. Yet, as a matter of practicality, he noted that the jury would only award the amount of damages they felt was necessary. Justice Stevens further pointed out that CSX did not attack the $5 million dollar award as excessive. In that light, he further demonstrated that CSX did not request the trial court to ask the jury to award damages for each element of recovery. Had CSX done this, and the trial court had complied, then CSXs challenge would only have gone to the amount awarded to the fear of cancer amount and the entire verdict would not have had to have been thrown out. The Hensley Courts decision to reverse and remand the case rests on the language in footnote 19 of the Ayers opinion. The footnote states: In their prediction that adhering to the line drawn in Gottshall and Metro-North will, in this setting, bankrupt defendants, the dissents largely disregard, inter alia, the verdict control devices available to the trial court. These include, on a defendant's request, a charge that each plaintiff must prove any alleged fear to be genuine and serious, review of the evidence on damages for sufficiency, and particularized verdict forms. Id., at 159, n. 19 The Hensley Court broadly interpreted the footnote, finding that anytime a defendant demanded an instruction, it must be given when involving fear of cancer. In contrast, Justice Stevens held that on the footnotes face it merely points out that a defendant has the right to request a genuine-and-serious instruction, and if requested, the instruction is available to the trial court. It does not suggest that all instructions should be granted. The Hensley majority opinion deviated from Ayers stare decisis. The Courts opinion, more than anything, will generate confusion regarding the Ayers case. The Ayers case had already suffered multiple interpretations by the courts. Given the opportunity to provide clarity to the holding of Ayers, the Hensley Court failed to meet this objective. In their rush to reverse the Tennessee Court of Appeals, they failed to correctly interpret Ayers and eliminate the confusion that plagued many courts. The Hensley opinion leaves the reader wondering why the Supreme Court failed to recognize the rights of workers who labor across America. This conservative approach greatly diminishes a workers ability to recover damages. ### Gordon & Elias, L.L.P., represents clients in all aspects of personal injury and wrongful death. 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Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 02 June 2009 I see Goober/Goofy is off his meds.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 02 June 2009 Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 01 June 2009 Cond 1-10 I went into engine service voluntarily no one forced me. Back then it was a promotion even being a firemen. The firemen made more than the two brakemen on the job. In 1978 the engineer training programs were established similiar to what people go through today. So, we were promoted engineers working as firemen till we stood for a regular engineer job. It was sometimes difficult they could force you away from home to work yard jobs or hostle engines in the roundhouse if you were low on the seniority roster. I spent 18 months living in a bunkhouse working 120 miles from home.XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Now let us get this straight. Fireman to Engineer was a promotion just as he says, same as Brakeman to Conductor. Fireman rate was not more than 2 brakeman it was simply more than the Brakeman's rate. He got a Bunkhouse for free, I got nothing, Trainmen had a caboose Fireman can sleep on the engine. 120 miles was not from the work site, it was within walking distance to work, riding a diesel, looking out the window waving to the kid's. It was far from rough for a Fireman in 1978, when many roads did not have any! Hostleing Engines is really a good job. Mostly sitting in the ready room waiting for the foreman to tell you to do something.XXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX It went like this if you didn't stand for an engineers job you went back to a firemen the only time you could go back as a trainmen is if business reduced to the point you didn't stand to be in engine service. Which only happened one time January 1983 I was cut back to a trainmen. In 1982 the trainmen got PL days in their contract. I went to the TM took all the 7 PL days when they were up I was back working as a firemen. I know this is all over your head it's old business. Even Sam who isn't an engineer with 30+ doesn't get it. If he did have that much time he would understand it.XXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX You were lucky, and yes we get it? XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Blame the UTU for forcing people into engine service not CSX. It all came about under the 1994 UTU crew consist agreement. You can be bypassed on going to engine service that's your free choice. I know a few that have gone 12 years they have around 150-200 people behind them as a trainmen. They might get burned when the railroads get engineer only freight pools. Which will become a reality in the next 10-12 years. The only thing stopping it is those who were hired before 1994. Those trainmen are considered protected employees a job for life. Worst that can happen they end up on a reserve pool collecting a paycheck sitting at home.XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Engineer only freight pool's does not mean 1 Engineer. It means what it says Engineer only, and in most cases that will be 2! XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX We had a group that when it came time to go to engine service they were all in their 50's. Both the unions tried to tell them don't go. Two have been fired, one quit, one just got back after 6 months in the street, two better hope one yard doesn't go completely remote because they can't handle the road. Like NoMo stated if a person in up in age going into engine service would be foolish, but if they still have 20-30+ years left it would be foolish not to go.XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX 100% correct XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 02 June 2009 Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 31 May 2009 Engineer 30+yrs I don't understand how a man can say he was promoted to engineer. As I see it if you do accept the offer to go to engineer school you are a damn fool. Let me explain....... You work as a conductor for about 5 yrs & at the end of those 5yrs you stand for 90% of the weekends off, how nice is that. Then if you do go to engineer school you'll spend the next 20yrs on the extra board with a Mon/Tues off day waiting for old farts like you to retire how shitty is that. I've been @ CSX for about 5 yrs & I will never go to engine school. Why would I want to start over with my senority I'am much smarter than that. Just another way CSX get you to do it there way you have a good day companyXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX I question any human that go's to work for the RR that does not aspire to the right seat is a person that has been wrongfully employed. Hell even the call boy want's to run an engine. I loved it. Never got to run much, and was never schooled in how to do it. I was asleep most of the prime time that I could have run. I was young and just did not understand the fact that if you stay awake all of the time, you get to run early morning and so it goes. It was a TRUST THING that I was too young to understand.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 02 June 2009 Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 31 May 2009 I concur. Sorry Goofy that system of firing for years without being promoted phased out in 1978. It was a great experience as a firemen being promoted my training was extented for another 4 1/2 years. Something that still should excist today instead of these 6 month wonders.XXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX L&N had 6 month wonders in 1967. They were called Apprentice Engineers that went to the bottom of the Fireman's roster, with a guarantee for life. All of them came from the trainman list.On my division we had 3. Yes nepotism was very active, all 3 were related to someone in power. The BLE welcomed them into the fold, as the BLE created the program. From 1964 until I left the RR. We ran 10 miles with a Fireman and 148 miles with out a Fireman. Trip after trip.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 02 June 2009 Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 31 May 2009 Goofy & Sam I went into engine service after the 1978 agreement that let me keep my trainmen seniority. I also went to engineer training school in Cumberland MD in early 1981 for 8 weeks before doing OJT. As a firemen from 1981-1986 I was a promoted locomotive engineer. If the engineers extra board was exhausted the firemen came under an agreement they would run the vacancy before crew callers ran the engineers roster it's was called 53B. The one thing that did remain until the late '80s was we weren't cut back to trainmen we were firemen. I still hold firemen seniority on a roster I just can't ever use it. Under the 1985 UTU crew consist even engineers that didn't have trainmen seniority had it established. The UTU has sold out 3/5th of the road jobs and 3/4th of the yard jobs in the past 24 years. Sorry Goofy that system of firing for years without being promoted phased out in 1978. It was a great experience as a firemen being promoted my training was extented for another 4 1/2 years. Something that still should excist today instead of these 6 month wonders.XXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Not true, Fixture firemen were gone in the late 1950's on the L&N Firemen were required to move to the right seat ALL OF THEM. If they screwed up they were terminated. The choice was not there. Many were terminated and many just quit, and most ran safely, and slow as hell, some fast as hell.

Name: SAFETY STRIKE E-mail: www.SafetyStrike.com Employed as: Brakeman, for 30+ years Posted: 02 June 2009 RRJ (Mo) is an idiot. Dont believe a word he says. He is the alter ego of Kung Foo Master CSX Black Belt Chicken Pecker, Z (Curly), and NoMo (Larry)....anal retentive retirees with pea brains and split personalities who are outdated and obsolete in their thinking and inaction. They dislike any one or anything that does not agree with them. And, they smell too - like rotten eggs. Why,do they smell and remind you of the Three Stooges (plus a Chicken Pecker)? Here's why: everytime time I take a crap and look down, there they are in the crapper lookin back up at me - Mo, Curly, Larry, and Chicken Pecker. Don't believe me? Next time you take a crap, take a look - guarantee they'll be starin back up at you. If you cant get a good picture, eat some barbeque and re-fried beans - that'l bring out their most distinquishing features. SAFETY STRIKE.

Name: lemonhead E-mail: Employed as: CSX Contractor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 02 June 2009 dude don't do that if you need to talk call me i'am for real 850-232-6347 terrance

Name: fedup E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 01 June 2009 I want to start saying that I feel for all those cutoff, when I first hired I was on here preaching one union, we need to form 1 union, and as time progressed, I realized just what all the whiskers were saying were true-aint gonna happen. While there are alot of good men out here, greed prevails and it always will and csx as well as the unions know this. This place is just a place to vent and talk a good game, solidarity we dont have. To all the guys cut off, find other work and learn from this, for all those working, watch ur back and you brothers, I hear snakes are bad right now!

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 01 June 2009 Cond 1-10 You moron. I just read your entire post. If I could retire I would. I might have over 30 years out here I don't have the age to retire. That makes you a moron for such an idiotic comment. What's your frigging beef? You stated you have weekends off as a trainmen? Why do you need me to retire? I'm an engineer. I don't affect you in any way as a trainmen. In fact if you bypassed engine service you should be doing pretty good with all those they hired the past 2-3 years. You need to quit the railroad. If you only have 5 years out here and you're that disgruntled it isn't going to improve. You don't have that much invested in this occupation to not quit and move on. Excuse me you just like bitching about the oldheads who have all the cushy jobs with weekends off. It isn't fair. Boo Hoo!!!! Cry Baby. It's called seniority. You're most likely part of the "Y" generation. "Y" can't I be #1? "Y" do all them oldheads get the better jobs? "Y"? "Y"? "Y"? Do you get it boy? Probably not.

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 01 June 2009 NoMo I think you got it. The Foamers "Six pints and none the wiser". Fits Sam the Foamer perfectly.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 01 June 2009 Hey RRJ: Seek and thou shalt find: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QW9PXDMfrt4 These foamers make a lot of noise too..and I don't understand a word they say.

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 01 June 2009 Sam You're a moron. You definitely haven't been on the railroad 30+. You might be a foamer in fact I think that's what you are. You sound to much like a person who only read about the railroad. Your bored schidtless with your pathetic life you live in a fantasy world. You keep on showing your ignorance which is a dead give away for a foamer. Sam the Foamer. That's your new name. I think Z and NoMo will like it.

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 01 June 2009 Cond 1-10 I went into engine service voluntarily no one forced me. Back then it was a promotion even being a firemen. The firemen made more than the two brakemen on the job. In 1978 the engineer training programs were established similiar to what people go through today. So, we were promoted engineers working as firemen till we stood for a regular engineer job. It was sometimes difficult they could force you away from home to work yard jobs or hostle engines in the roundhouse if you were low on the seniority roster. I spent 18 months living in a bunkhouse working 120 miles from home. It went like this if you didn't stand for an engineers job you went back to a firemen the only time you could go back as a trainmen is if business reduced to the point you didn't stand to be in engine service. Which only happened one time January 1983 I was cut back to a trainmen. In 1982 the trainmen got PL days in their contract. I went to the TM took all the 7 PL days when they were up I was back working as a firemen. I know this is all over your head it's old business. Even Sam who isn't an engineer with 30+ doesn't get it. If he did have that much time he would understand it. Blame the UTU for forcing people into engine service not CSX. It all came about under the 1994 UTU crew consist agreement. You can be bypassed on going to engine service that's your free choice. I know a few that have gone 12 years they have around 150-200 people behind them as a trainmen. They might get burned when the railroads get engineer only freight pools. Which will become a reality in the next 10-12 years. The only thing stopping it is those who were hired before 1994. Those trainmen are considered protected employees a job for life. Worst that can happen they end up on a reserve pool collecting a paycheck sitting at home. We had a group that when it came time to go to engine service they were all in their 50's. Both the unions tried to tell them don't go. Two have been fired, one quit, one just got back after 6 months in the street, two better hope one yard doesn't go completely remote because they can't handle the road. Like NoMo stated if a person in up in age going into engine service would be foolish, but if they still have 20-30+ years left it would be foolish not to go.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 01 June 2009 Hey Con 1-10: You said you worked foe CSX for about 5 years...you didn't say how old you were when you hired out. In my opinion, if you were 40+ when you hired out, it really doesn't make a lot of sense to go to engine school; for the reason you mentioned...seniority. It's tough when your at the bottom of the roster. If you were 20 when hired out, it would be short sighted not to go to engine school. On most properties within the CSX system, you have the option to decline attending engine school, the first time. If you decline and are eventually forced to attend, you lose your relative position on the seniority roster. In other words, the men junior to you on the trainman's roster, will run around you as soon as they establish engineer seniority. If you decline the second time, you could be terminated. You have been with CSX long enough to know the carrier's intention to ultimately evolve to engineer only road trains, one craft. I think that's at least 5 years off, probably 10, but it will occur. Either way, it's a crap shoot but your odds improve with every birthday.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 31 May 2009 Engineer 30+yrs I don't understand how a man can say he was promoted to engineer. As I see it if you do accept the offer to go to engineer school you are a damn fool. Let me explain....... You work as a conductor for about 5 yrs & at the end of those 5yrs you stand for 90% of the weekends off, how nice is that. Then if you do go to engineer school you'll spend the next 20yrs on the extra board with a Mon/Tues off day waiting for old farts like you to retire how shitty is that. I've been @ CSX for about 5 yrs & I will never go to engine school. Why would I want to start over with my senority I'am much smarter than that. Just another way CSX get you to do it there way you have a good day company man.......

Name: SAM E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 31 May 2009 Is there an echo in here? I could swear the last two posts were identical - that part about firing for 4 1/2 years - z you need to give it some more time before you post as RRJ. Too obvious. Yeah, I know guys who fired forever and a day. Still cant handle a freight train to this day. Some guys are just better at it than others. If you fired for 4 1/2 years plus, maybe there was a reason you were never promoted.....Experienced engineers NEVER recommended promoting a firman if we thought for one second the guy couldn't handle it. I never knew a conductor or brakeman to run into an air conditioned shack to cool off during work. What planet are you on? None of the shanties had a fan, let alone air conditioning. You want to cool off, you come to the lead engine. Air conditioning.....The railroad cant even keep from killing us, let alone give us air conditioning. LMAO.

Name: Z E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 31 May 2009 I concur. Sorry Goofy that system of firing for years without being promoted phased out in 1978. It was a great experience as a firemen being promoted my training was extented for another 4 1/2 years. Something that still should excist today instead of these 6 month wonders.

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 31 May 2009 Goofy & Sam I went into engine service after the 1978 agreement that let me keep my trainmen seniority. I also went to engineer training school in Cumberland MD in early 1981 for 8 weeks before doing OJT. As a firemen from 1981-1986 I was a promoted locomotive engineer. If the engineers extra board was exhausted the firemen came under an agreement they would run the vacancy before crew callers ran the engineers roster it's was called 53B. The one thing that did remain until the late '80s was we weren't cut back to trainmen we were firemen. I still hold firemen seniority on a roster I just can't ever use it. Under the 1985 UTU crew consist even engineers that didn't have trainmen seniority had it established. The UTU has sold out 3/5th of the road jobs and 3/4th of the yard jobs in the past 24 years. Sorry Goofy that system of firing for years without being promoted phased out in 1978. It was a great experience as a firemen being promoted my training was extented for another 4 1/2 years. Something that still should excist today instead of these 6 month wonders.

Name: Z E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 30 May 2009 I guess Sam and Goober missed the cut back engineer part of RRJ's post.

Name: Z E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 30 May 2009 How do you know what your talking about brakey Sam. Your just taking Goober's opinion. He was gone years and years ago. Before you were even born. It has always been that way in RRJ's time more than likely, just as he explained. Working rules have changed countless times. I was around when it was done the Goober way. I'm sure Goober knows what the jump seat and port hole were. Do you believe everything someone post?

Name: Sam E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 30 May 2009 See what I mean loco 30+, you dont know what your talking about 50% of the time. And that's generous.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 30 May 2009 Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 25 May 2009 You're incorrect a cut back engineer can be forced to run an engine. It's called protecting your seniority. It's been that way forever even back when I was a firemen. Don't think we didn't get screwed. Many a times my engineer would be off I'd run our job he would mark back up I'd get left behind losing work because I wasn't rested and being a firemen I was not considered as anything but a helper just like the brakemen. The engineer and conductors were the only jobs secured. If the brakemen ran his job as the conductor if not rested his slot would be filled by the extra board plus by working another craft we weren't entitled to any compensation like difference in pay. It was called protecting your seniority.XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Might be true today, however when he says it has always been this way I call a foul. Engineer and Fireman on a regular job. Engineer lay's off they call an Engineer if available and rested off the Engineers extra board. If there are none rested at the start time for the job, and the fireman is qualified as an engineer, he may be forced to run in an emergency. Most Fireman were not qualified to run, so the job sat until an engineer was rested. Not one person was screwed. I think I know where old fart is coming from, he moved to the right seat and made a bunch of overtime and they called a new entire crew to the job along with the Engineer that was assigned and rested. Same as missing a call, go to the board below the person that took the call. The part about the Fireman/ Helper like a brakeman is also a farce. the Fireman was a helper the Brakeman was a worker. The pay thing is also stupid every Conductor made Conductor rate for the tour of duty, as did the Engineer's.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 29 May 2009 Hey Sam why don't you try it like this next time so we don't have to scroll so much when you do multiple post under different areas and names. It's old news any way and people read the union sites any way. That is if your a engineer or conductor, which is unlikely in your case. http://www.utu.org/worksite/detail_news.cfm?ArticleID=47366

Name: SAFETY STRIKE E-mail: SAFETYSTRIKE.COM Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 29 May 2009 Stayin' alive: Visit safety task force Web page With railroad employee on-duty fatalities and career-ending injuries soaring, UTU International President Mike Futhey recently appointed a four-person safety task force to craft, in conjunction with the FRA, an action plan to reduce rail-employee risk while on the job. Leading the safety task force is UTU Assistant Arizona State Legislative Director Greg Hynes, who will work with UTU Arizona State Legislative Director Scott Olson, Arkansas State Legislative Director Steve Evans and Michigan State Legislative Director Jerry Gibson. The effectiveness of the safety task force requires communication with UTU members who work in the yards and aboard trains. To ensure two-way communication, a new Web page has been created to provide updates on the work of the safety task force and permit UTU members to contact the safety task force with suggestions, information on workplace safety hazards and questions. Members should also advise their state legislative directors of workplace safety hazards. On the lower right of the UTU home page, at www.utu.org, a button has been created, providing a direct link to the safety task force's Web page. Portions of the page remain under construction, but a link already is provided permitting members to e-mail suggestions, information on workplace safety hazards, and questions. The page also provides quick links to UTU Designated Legal Counsel, state legislative directors and general chairpersons. A complete listing of UTU members who have been killed in the line of duty this year also will be added. As safety task force recommendations are made, they will be posted as alerts on the safety task force Web page, and also e-mailed to UTU members who sign up for UTU e-mail alerts. If you are not already signed up for e-mail alerts, register at: www.utu.org/worksite/InfoIndex.cfm. Please visit the safety task force's new Web page, whose purpose is to help ensure you return home from the job alive and in one piece. Click on the button on the UTU home page, or use this Web address to reach the safety task force's new Web page: www.utu.org/worksite/rail_safety_taskforce/safety_taskforce_home.htm. May 28, 2009

Name: really don't give a fuck E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 29 May 2009 STOP KISSING HIS ASS FUCKTARD!

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 28 May 2009 The problem with the CSX is...it's the dumb leading the dumb, save yourself or suffer the consequences!

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 28 May 2009 Damn I forgot Moby Grape. Thank's Allman Brothers.

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 28 May 2009 Thank's Allman Brother That was great Johnny Winters & Mott the Hoople "All the way from Memphis".

Name: lemon head E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 28 May 2009 in june the hours of service law will kick in and help right???

Name: Allman Brothers E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 28 May 2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7zRbDkm4Jo Never liked the space age look, bands got into in the earily 70's. Even one of the great Blues players went through this phase, trying to compete with disco I guess. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlNGOynePMw&feature=related The 70's and then back to normal http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGtk1dHLSKM&feature=related For all the guitar players who want to play red house, the key to getting the Hendrix sound is tuning slightly flat. I see Johnny did that here. It gives it the blusey sound. I know Sam doesn't need to know this, he doesn't play guitar, only skin flute and mouth organs.

Name: Allman Brothers E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 28 May 2009 Now that's what I'm talking about. A little MG for you RRJ. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAUGyED5vH0

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Brakeman, for Less than 1 year Posted: 28 May 2009 arent the allman brothers all dead? one of them married Cher - and she's what --- 90 years old or something like that? Geezers.

Name: Old Head Engr E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 28 May 2009 Long live the Allman Brothers Band....they just don't come any better. I still take a hit off the ole bowl, slip the headphones on, kick back and relax to some of the best music around. From their 1st release to their latest. It just doesn't get any better.

Name: Amazed in Arkansas E-mail: ljdeen@hotmail.com Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 27 May 2009 I love this site. When I think of the CSX folks, I get a kick out of the raw open speaking of this site. From the 20 year railroad woman in the south (way south) - you all are a hoot. www.deenlegalresearchandconsulting.com I work for the union, working employees of the railroads.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 27 May 2009 Pop's You can buy Moby Grape on Amazon. I've got a few of their albums (CD) on my wish list. I bought a couple Electric Flag CD's off Amazon. Got back into it after getting the Super Session series from the Filmore East. One of the series that released last year is "Filmore East The Lost Tapes". It has Johnny Winters first time playing outside of Texas. When Mike Bloomsfield introduced him the crowd at the Filmore was booing till he went off on his guitar. Great stuff. Sonny

Name: htlong E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 26 May 2009 mott the hoople???????????? ALL THE WAY TO MEMPHIS!!!!!!!! wow you woke up some burnt out gray matter there! did they have any other hits......remember moby grape????

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 26 May 2009 I think ZZ Top is going to be in yout area to RRJ.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Brakeman, for Less than 1 year Posted: 26 May 2009 You guys must be really OLD. The Moody Blues? Ugh. Time to retire, old farts. Long past due.

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 26 May 2009 NoMo Willie Nelson on 6/21 and Yes on 6/6 are playing Innsbrook here in Richmond next month. Yes is like Moody Blues they still has 3-4 original members. I saw both on the same show in the mid '90s at Walnut Hills in Raleigh, NC. That show Yes had all the original members including Rick Wakemen on keyboards.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 26 May 2009 Hey RRJ: Yeah, you're right...there are a lot of the old bands still around but all the faces have changed several times. If you're lucky there might be one or two of the original members still playing. It's just not the same though! One exception I can think of is the Moody Blues, there must be several others. I'm beginning to see a lot of tribute bands touring...I've never actually seen one and probably won't, I can't possibly see the attraction,unless it's the ticket price. Willie Nelson, Bob Dylan and John Mellencamp play at the Wharf in Orange Beach on 7/31...the cheapest ticket is $106.00 and the Most expensive is $548.00 and there's only 2 of those left. I be dipped in shit before I'd pay those prices. Truth be known, if I'm in a joint and decide to waste money in the Juke Box, I'm likely to play a little Sinatra, Como or Martin...that tends to get rid of the amateurs! God, I'm turning into my Father and Grandfather!

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 26 May 2009 I see your daddy must of pulled out early. The part of your development that would of produced intelligence and manners squirted on your momma's leg.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 26 May 2009 What an old fart or fu@*

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 26 May 2009 NoMo A lot of those '60s bands from England are still around they just haven't had anything on the charts or toured here in the USA. I watched a biography on The Who a few days ago. They had been around since 1963 under a few other names. They were one of my favorite bands to see live. It wouldn't be the same today the loss of Keith Moon was one thing but now with John Entwhistle gone it's definitely not the same. I remember going to see The Rascals about 10 years ago it was the year they were inducted in the Rock N' Roll Hall of Fame. What a disapointment it was one original member and a bunch of kids. I left after two songs. There is only one band I'll see continuosly Steppenwolf everytime John Kay could have anyone playing behind him he's still great. A few years back Eric Burdon of The Animals and Robby Kreiger of The Doors toured together that was a great show. The Doors modeled themselves after The Animals with the gritty side of life music. Oh well!!! Enough about the old days.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 25 May 2009 HELLO FELLAS I WANTED TO KNOW IF ANY CONDUCTORS or engineers HAVE DELIVERED COAL TO KINDER MORGAN IN NEWPORT NEWS VIRGINIA? WHO FIXES THE TRACK ON THEIR PROPERTY AND CAN I HAVE SOME INSIGHT ON THE PEOPLE WHO WORK THERE? anything would be apreciated, and good luck out there rail roaders it's tough, thanks.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 25 May 2009 Hey RRJ: Sorry...I think it's more like a reunion on the 40th anniversary of their formation.

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 25 May 2009 NoMo Mott the Hoople. I had that album my favorite song was "All the way to Memphis". I didn't even know they were still around. Especially to have a 40th anniversary coming up.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 25 May 2009 If you feel it isn't possible good for you. Just don't be disappointed when that phone rings. In the next 10 years it won't matter. One extra board will cover both crafts. When the UTU agreed to dual seniority it opened up a can of worms. The only thing keeping the two crafts from being disolved is the pre-85er protected under the crew consist. The generation before me lost when it went from steam to diesel electric locomotives, my generation lost the caboose, yours is losing out to the remote. Every generation has seen change. I'm tired of change.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 25 May 2009 RRJ I'm a cut back engineer at russell and can not and will not be forced to work anything but my job while I'm a conductor, its true as an engineer if I ansewer the phone I have to go to work but thats only as a marked up engineer.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 25 May 2009 Hey RRJ: Disability...reminds me of a parking ticket I once got, parking in a handicapped spot. Went before the Judge, we were on a first name basis; my case was called and my wife and I approached the Judge. He asked if she was a witness, I introduced her and told him she was an expert witness. He read the charge, cleared his throat and said "you don't looked handicapped to me", which I replied, "I am your honor, you just can't see it" and I commenced to unbuckle my belt...He said "I'll take your word for it...case dismissed". There was a pretty good laugh over it, I would have just hated to have my case called next! Also, in honor of the next generation, I found this little ditty I'm sure you'll remember: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-9F_z0B2TA I understand they will have a 40th anniversary show in London the first week of October...don't go as often as I use to, but this one might be worth it!

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 25 May 2009 Engineers are stuck with all the work rules in the SSA especially the bid system. The only part we can opt out of is the bonus program nothing else. People vote but don't bother taking the time to read all the fine print. The SSA was totally an open ended contract always evolving and changing through the dispute/resolution commitee. Nothing was set in stone. Seems most of those changes haven't been in our favor. I hope the new federal regs help get some people back to work. Only time will tell. Beyond popular beliefs by some on here I do care about those furloughed. I just don't lose any sleep over it, it's a part of railroading. It always will be. I just look at it as a way of weeding out those who'll become a railroader and those who will not.

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 25 May 2009 NoMo Furloughs take there toll. Back when I was hired the rate of those who stayed after a furlough was around 20%. The C&O (Chessie System) would over hire because they knew 70%-85% would quit the first year. As we all know it's not your normal occupation. With the economy in the crapper right now I don't think the loss will be that great. There might be jobs out on the market not ones that pay like the railroad. We told people save money no big purchases. Very few ever listen "it's just paying your dues". Some can handle it some can't. No big deal. Most of us have been through it. No one wants to hear it. I'll be glad to give the "Y" generation my seniority when the time comes around in about 62 months. Maybe in less time if I decide to try for a disability. It's hell at times to get older those back injuries from your younger days start bothering you along with everything else. I don't like what is happening to this railroad. It isn't geared for us anymore. I want the new generation to take over. It'll be a mess with all this micro-managing worse than it is today. No more protected employees under the crew consist. I'm glad there are those who hired out in the early to mid '90s they were taught how to railroad. They'll be the ones to straighten things out when we are gone. Us oldheads are tired of doing it. There is no unity amongst this new breed. There like a "railroad of one" a stupid saying the army came up with it fits out here. Heck they run up stairs to the TM and turn each other in. Sometimes resulting in charges. What the f*#k? These are union brothers/sisters? Not in my frigging book. We need to go back to the old days. A little union discipline.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 25 May 2009 Any word on whether or not the engineers are going to get out of the bid system and go back to the way it was? Also, will this hours of service law mean that all the furloughed employees will be brought back or even possible that CSX may have to hire more people? I've heard that this new law wont even make a difference and that if the work doesn't get done it will just have to wait. Also, I take it our time during a dead head wont count towards our hours? Just curious as to what kind of changes this will bring and how much this will affect everyone.

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 25 May 2009 You're incorrect a cut back engineer can be forced to run an engine. It's called protecting your seniority. It's been that way forever even back when I was a firemen. Don't think we didn't get screwed. Many a times my engineer would be off I'd run our job he would mark back up I'd get left behind losing work because I wasn't rested and being a firemen I was not considered as anything but a helper just like the brakemen. The engineer and conductors were the only jobs secured. If the brakemen ran his job as the conductor if not rested his slot would be filled by the extra board plus by working another craft we weren't entitled to any compensation like difference in pay. It was called protecting your seniority. All you can do is know where your job is at all times. Then don't answer your phone. CMC can force anyone to work running a roster. At times you do get lucky and can get away with saying "no". I get lucky all the time as it should be when you get to my seniority you know there are at least a couple hundred people to get to me. CMC gets tired after the first 25 calls. Russell is no different than the rest of CSX. On CSX all Engineers work under the SSA with the exception of the Northeast on the former Conrail.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 24 May 2009 RRj you dont know what your talking about at russell conductors dont have to take a call, you can even ansewer and say no, unless its your job and your turn, no one can force you to step up, also cut back engineers cant be forced to step up to run a engine they do cause they want to make as much as they can I agree with conductor 1-10 there suck asses.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 24 May 2009 Hey RRJ: Furloughs always take their toll...what do you think, maybe 35%-40% never come back? Most furloughs last 6 months the first year. This time it maybe 1+ years and at some terminals they may never get recalled. Making threats is juvenile...put your name on the call list and play the game. You might be surprised at how often you do work. Most money I ever made was off the furlough board and that was at 80%. Worked 12 hours every day on 8 hours rest, when I had enough, just told the caller no thanks...6 hours later the phone rang again. The only people that said anything were the regulars. They told me the same thing...as long as I accepted calls CSX would never recall me. It didn't take long to figure out why they were telling me that...I was getting there OT and double overs. Actually, when you think about it, the call list is nothing more than an unguaranteed extra-board...just how it once was and how it will be again!

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 24 May 2009 Cond 1-10 Cool it with the stupid arse threats. You can talk big all you want. It doesn't change anything. CSX is the only one who furloughs. Those still marked up are just doing their job. The unions gave away the right to refuse accepting a call to be forced to run up. The frigging unions agreed to gaurenteed extra boards which are under complete control of CSX. I'd like it to go back to no gaurentees then they can load up the boards and it's back to feast or famine. Back then we were marked up an at times drew unemployment if we didn't get 10 days a half. CSX will utilize those still working to the point of exhaustion. I hope this FRA Rail Safety Bill does go into effect. I personally don't want to be forced to work beyond my regular assignment. In reality both the railroads an unions are fighting against it trying to find a loophole to prevent reduced manditory monthly hours of service. I can live with the new regulations. I know others that can't. Worse case scenario is you could end up a greedy hoghead if you stick around. Every generation has them. We despised them when we were young but greed has always prevailed in a small minority of railroaders.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 23 May 2009 To all the guys at Russell stepping up to help the company I hope your making plenty of money while 81 of sit at home, most not able to draw anything till july 1. I'll remember who you are, and also why don't you all just apply for management jobs since your so concerned with doing CSX favors you greedy non union acting suck asses, your the reason why our unions are week.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 23 May 2009 Bull, The Engineer paid the price, but also did his employer. Your statement that the RR was off the hook is so out of reality. As F. lee Bailey the lawyer??? you should know the employer is held to a higher level than the employee. Name: F. Lee Bailey E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 30+ years Posted: 23 May 2009 RRJ that is a really bad version of the story. The guy "confessed" only after making a deal with the feds and the road that he was "guilty". All the pot and joint and watching the game shit was totally fabricated - ALL OF IT. By hanging the engineer with gross criminal negligence and homicide, the railroads got off the hook from otherwise having to pay out hundreds of millions of dollars in jury awards and settlements. so now, all the roads have to do after each and every incident, is test your ass. If they find something, your an idiot. If they don't, your an idiot anyway. See how that works?

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 23 May 2009 The sad part is Gates took the heat while the Conductor, and most likely Brakeman were WHERE??? This was not a person screwing up it was a series of multiple screw up's. Conductor letting the Engineer run silly, Brakeman letting the Engineer and Conductor run silly. Light engines do not stop well, they knew it and were just letting shit happen and it DID. Same as today drink all you want and drive all that you want. Hit something and go to jail. Everyone get's the test, everytime.

Name: F. Lee Bailey E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 30+ years Posted: 23 May 2009 RRJ that is a really bad version of the story. The guy "confessed" only after making a deal with the feds and the road that he was "guilty". All the pot and joint and watching the game shit was totally fabricated - ALL OF IT. By hanging the engineer with gross criminal negligence and homicide, the railroads got off the hook from otherwise having to pay out hundreds of millions of dollars in jury awards and settlements. so now, all the roads have to do after each and every incident, is test your ass. If they find something, your an idiot. If they don't, your an idiot anyway. See how that works?

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 23 May 2009 You can thank a Conrail idiot by the name of Ricky Gates for drug testing on the railroads. He ran into an Amtrak with 600 passengers with a light set of locomotives off a siding killing 16 people. The idiot was watching the Super Bowl on a hand held TV and said he smoked a joint. He went before a congressional committee to save his arse for a reduced prison sentence by saying all railroaders were drunks and drug addicts. For 16 deaths and the injuries of hundreds of passengers he only recieved 7 years and served less than 3 years in prison. I hope his cellmate Bubba made him his bitch while he was incarcerated.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 22 May 2009 thank you very much for the input wildman, the type of jobs that i was looking at with kinder morgan were: maintenance man, compared to(csx freight cart repair) facility worker, compared to (csx track worker) loader, compared to (csx heavy equipment operator) machinist, compared to (csx machinist), and i also think that kinder morgan is a non union if i am not mistaken, just wanted to know who would i be better off. i do not know if any one on this site has any one that works or knows of kinder morgan. I also know this web site says CSX sucks but it could be worth a try, any inputs will be greatly apreciated. thanks railroaders!

Name: Wildman E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 22 May 2009 Kindermorgan??? What kind of job??? I looked for a Kindermorgan on the web and it came up with a pipeline company. Just on the surface I would go with the union job just for the stability and security a union can provide.(I know but stow it for now) Both companies are huge and this brings up all kinds of problems. 1. The people who make decisions about you have never met you. 2. You mean nothing to the people referenced above. 3. You might have to move long distances to work for indefinate periods of time. Give us more info on the Kindermorgan outfit and we might be of more help.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 20 May 2009 hello, rail roaders!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHO IS IT BETTER TO WORK FOR AS FAR AS A MAINTENANCE WORKER, CSX OR KINDERMORGAN (PLANT OR COAL YARD)!!!!!!!!!!!PLEASE NEED ALL INPUTS I AM TRYING TO SAVE MY SELF FROM MAKING A BIG MISTAKE, NEED HELP!

Name: RH E-mail: Employed as: Brakeman, for 20-30 years Posted: 19 May 2009 We can all thank former senator republican LIZZY LEZZIE DOLE for all of this drug testing BS as she is the one who started all of this back in the 80,s, She did get voted out of office in 06 but she did her damage, The fuckin bitch.

Name: Z E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 19 May 2009 Sam, you signed my name to your letter by mistake. CSX can't test me, remember I don't work for them. Must have been a Freudian mistake, when you signed it. I know you were all excited because you were talking about the old Johnson.

Name: Z E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 19 May 2009 Dear Congressman, I want to make sure the whizzinator bill passes. I become sexually aroused when another man is looking at my very small penis as I piss in the privacy of the restroom. Only him and me. Could you please pass this bill and another where I can show my itty bitty to the drug test man as often as possible. Sam The cut Off Brakeman

Name: Sam the Railroad Man E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 19 May 2009 Z, when you strap on your whizinnator, dont forget - it goes on your forhead. I tried writing my congressmen. They always have a hand out - pay to play as the saying goes. You got no money, you get no tickie. Dear Mr. Congressman, The railroad wants to check my dick when I pee. I think the Cock Sucker Xpress (CSX) queers want to gnaw on my Johnson, and cornhole my pooper. I'd like to hold my own dick when i pee, thank you very much. And my pooper is not for sale. Can you please pass a bill that says I can pee and take a crap in private like normal people. Thank you very much, Sir. A big shout out to the wife and kids. Sincerely yours.....I am, ZORO P.S. enclosed are some of my grandma's cookies.

Name: samism E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 19 May 2009 sam is the type of person that will continue to post on every section for he feels like he is being smart when he is actually a dummmy .look out here comes some of his comments on every section again.please donot judge all engineers by this one most of them I know is smarter than this,

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 19 May 2009 Now...now, boys Sam, you and Z play nice. There's no need to pitch a fit. If the big bad men look a Z's, they'll look at yours too...even if you have 30+ years! Zip'um up...have a safety strike...you'll just embarrass yourselves...right now it's so slow you couldn't hurt them, too many other men that are furloughed and hurting are ready to whip 'em out. The union nor CSX isn't responsible for the economy...and CSX isn't responsible for keeping the union membership employed. It sucks, it's not unlike being dealt a bad hand in poker...you can raise and bluff all you want, but sooner or later you're going to be called. There's a time and place...now is not the time or place and unlike the battle at Thermopylae, no one will remember you 6 months from now, let alone 2500 years from now; and just like Leonidas, you'll end up just as dead! Do something constructive...write and call your Congressmen and Senators and complain about the new DOT testing protocol...this is a prime example of some moron justifying his job...hell, he could probably work for CSX!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 19 May 2009 Engine repair, I would not count on being called back anytime soon. Not trying to be negative, but I know people with 20 years that are furloughed.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years Posted: 19 May 2009 This guy is nuts. We get tired of reading it everywhere. Keep fucking the site up.

Name: SAM E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 19 May 2009 Z, you back from Grandma's house? How were your milk and cookies? Oh - my - god. Just posted this on every section. whaddayaknow. Say Z, when the CSX homos demand you pee in their bottle while they hold your Johnson to ensure authenticity of personal urination, you gonna thank the Unions for their support? LOL. Dont forget - milk and cookies at 5.

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Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year Posted: 19 May 2009 Is there any reason why we need more that one board to post? I'm getting tired of reading folks complaining about multiple posts!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Engine repair, for Less than 1 year Posted: 18 May 2009 I only worked at csx for 89 days before i got laid off. anyone know when they will call back?

Name: Steve Gordon E-mail: sgordon@gordon-elias.com Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 17 May 2009 Dear All- On Friday the 15th, the United States Court of Appeals in D.C. decided a case styled BNSF v. Dept. of Transportation. It has to do with the railroads performing urinalysis tests on railroad employees but there is more. The DOT argued and prevailed that the railroad must now strip the person down to make sure they are not using a device that looks like male genitalia (in the opinion it was called a "Whizzinator" but, apparently, there are others)when giving the urine. I have posted an article in Yardlimits.com and attached the opinion in a Microsoft Word attachment so you can download it and read it for yourself. The link is here: http://www.yardlimits.com/forums/ask-attorney-steve-gordon-gordon-elias-law-firm/12298-casey-jones-whizzinator-gig-no-good.html#post114211 From an academic constitutional law perspective it is a monumental and radical departure from 4th Amendment precedent albeit a foreseeable result due to the compelling need to have a drug free workplace in the transportation industry. However, from a railroad employee's perspective it is extremely intrusive and embarrassing. I highly recommend reading the opinion. Sincerely, Steve Gordon www.gordon-elias.com

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year Posted: 17 May 2009 Greece, N.Y)- Some abandoned CSX cars that left people in a Greece neighborhood with eyesores in their backyard, were finally moved Saturday. The cars were sitting just feet from neighbors backyards for weeks. CSX blamed the recession as the reason, saying consumers are buying less therefore rail cars shipping less. Neighbors in the Pebbleview Neighborhood say they're thankful that the cars are no longer there.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year Posted: 16 May 2009 "the railway company CSX, placed the property in Chapter 11 bankruptcy reorganization, telling a judge that it was "unable and unwilling to continue funding" losses." WHITE SULPHUR SPRINGS, W.Va. -- The Greenbrier resort's new owner -- the man who outmaneuvered the mighty Marriott International -- is a coal baron who just sold some mines to the Russians for $436 million. He is enormous and boisterous, standing 6-foot-7 and weighing enough that he calls himself a "fat hog." He is the president of the local youth baseball league and coach of the girls' high school basketball team and is driven around town by his buddy Moe. "These people haven't seen anything quite like me," James C. Justice II said the other day, over a sandwich and fries at the resort. And neither has Marriott, which last night agreed to a settlement with Justice to avoid a battle in federal bankruptcy court in Richmond, where the two sides were scheduled to wrangle for control of the historic resort -- the place where Joseph and Rose Kennedy honeymooned and 26 presidents have visited. (Prince Rainier and Princess Grace stopped by, too.) With Justice winning control, some residents said, he will forever be seen as a savior to this quiet town in the mountains whose fortunes have fallen alongside the resort. The Greenbrier has endured hundreds of layoffs and brutal labor negotiations amid a steep drop-off in guest visits. The prospect that a local man, not some corporate muckety-muck, could be signing their paychecks had even led residents to pack churches and praise Justice. "I believe the Good Lord sent him for us," said Greg Scott, a preacher and doorman at the hotel for more than a dozen years who has seen 14 of his neighbors laid off. "We had no hopes, no plans. It was a glorious day when he arrived." That was less than two weeks ago, after Justice surprised the town and executives at Bethesda-based Marriott International by announcing that he had bought the resort for $20 million. In March, the hotel's previous owner, the railway company CSX, placed the property in Chapter 11 bankruptcy reorganization, telling a judge that it was "unable and unwilling to continue funding" losses. As part of the bankruptcy, CSX made a deal to sell the resort to Marriott for $60 million to $130 million, depending on the resort's future financial performance. CSX also agreed to give Marriott $50 million to run the hotel. The deal was contingent on CSX winning an agreement with the resort's unions that was also agreeable to Marriott. An accord was reached, and everything was looking spiffy for the world's largest hotel chain. But Justice, who owns coal mines and large farming operations in several nearby states, was lurking. He went to CSX in April, offering to buy the stock in the entity that owned the resort, assume the debt and move to have the bankruptcy case dismissed -- an unusual step, according to bankruptcy experts, who said buyers usually prefer to acquire assets out of bankruptcy free of debt. Why would Justice go through all the trouble to take on a business he knows nothing about and take on more than $100 million in bills? He said it had nothing to with the state recently approving casino gambling at the resort: "That's just bull snot," Justice said. "I don't want to damage these people anymore. I live here. I don't want to dash their hopes," he said. "I am honestly stone-cold confident that I can bring to the table a lot of good stuff. I won't be the guy who thinks with the standard hotel mentality. This place can't be run that way." Marriott officials met with Justice in Lewisburg, W.Va., yesterday to strike a deal. Under their settlement, both sides have 30 days to come to an agreement allowing Marriott to market the property and receive a fee for any guests it generates for the resort. If an agreement is not reached, Justice will pay a $7.5 million breakup fee, Justice said. "We have amicably resolved any dispute with Mr. Justice, and we will not oppose the motion to dismiss the bankruptcy," Marriott said in a statement. No matter what the outcome of the talks, Justice has won total control of the Greenbrier. "I needed the control," Justice said in an interview. "I'd be letting these people down without it." Justice won over the community by hiring back furloughed workers and reopening the union contract to increase health insurance and other benefits, including allowing employees to eat one meal a day at the resort. Last week, West Virginia Gov. Joe Manchin III (D) and Sen. John D. Rockefeller IV threw their support behind Justice, saying he's the right person to run the national historic landmark. A four-hour drive from Washington, Greenbrier features 721 rooms, 10 lobbies, three golf courses, a large medical clinic for executive checkups and a once-secret bunker for Congress to convene in the event of a nuclear attack. "I would hope Marriott sees we have someone here with the passion, the wherewithal and the resources to own the Greenbrier," Manchin said in an interview. Rockefeller sent Justice a handwritten note saying: "I can't tell how proud I am of you and how happy I am for West Virginia. Without a doubt you have absolutely saved the Greenbrier." White Sulphur Springs, like many small towns, harbors resentment toward corporate America, which has brought Wal-Marts and other big-box stores to town and -- in the view of some residents -- sucked local businesses dry. On Main Street, barber Mike Lane can look through the shop's window and see that all of the stores across the street are for rent. "Are they going to crumble, or are there going to be some businesses there?" Lane said. "I'd like to see more businesses. I'd like to cut more hair." He said he thinks someone with ties to the town has a more vested interest in the resort. "I want him to do well," he said. Peter Bostic, the union's business manager, agreed with Lane. "He will hold the place closer to the chest than an international company," Bostic said. Justice said his immediate goals include beginning work on a casino, but more important, he wants to win back the resort's Mobil five-star rating, which it lost in 1999. The key to earning that fifth star, he said, was improving his employees' outlook. His theory is that if his employees are happy, they will make the guests happy. If that sounds familiar, it's what J.W. Marriott Jr. has preached for decades. "I think it's all driven by state of mind," Justice said. "These people here are great. But how great can you be when you are worried if your family is going to be supported? These people have been through a really tough go of it and so we are in the process of lifting the cloud and bringing the sun back out."

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 30+ years Posted: 15 May 2009 Mr. Boggs, I didn't realize you had taken my position on CN. I may have a position for you. We are in the process of selling 250 plus miles of light density track in Mississippi. I do believe the buyer needs someone to drive spikes after the sell is complete.

Name: Wildman E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 15 May 2009 Instead of wasting your time on this site we should go to our respectice union websites and post a complaint there! The only difference betwen writing on those and this site is you can't remain anonymous and you have to be a REAL railroader to register. Although I do think we should strike,even for a few hours.

Name: HOG E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 14 May 2009 i agree with the majority. UNIONS MUST CALL A SAFETY STRIKE. this is America. we do not have to subject ourselves to inhuman working conditions. too many railroad injuries and deaths. call a safety strike before too many more of our unions members get killed or injured. call a safety strike NOW.

Name: Smitty E-mail: Employed as: Brakeman, for 30+ years Posted: 14 May 2009 I agree. We need to call a safety strike. Too many injuries and deaths caused by CSX negligence and indifference. STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE! STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE! STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE! STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE! STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE! STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!

Name: RG E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years Posted: 13 May 2009 The rr for years has always preached SAFETY but we all know the main course is for the company to make money,,, PERIOD. I also knew something bad would happen with the remotes and now it did, Lets see how they try to cover the real facts up in court as i am sure the company lawyers are already working on a pack of lies to tell the jury, We the men in the field already know that many minor derailments caused by remotes were covered up and still are, Its the SOS always trying to cut that fat hog in the ass. I wrote a artical to one of those railfan sites about how the rr,s should install distant switch signals in dark territory as a few major derailments have occured and distant switch signals would have prevented these wrecks and man i got it from the FOAMERS as all of them said the rr,s can not do that as it would cost them billions of dollars, One foamer told me it would cost the rr 1 million dollars to wire 1 singel switch to a distant signal!!! I often wonder were these FOAMERS get that kind of information as most of them do not know thier asses from a hole in the ground about rr operations, The FOAMERS always talk like rr officials saying its a human factor involved in any type of derailment, A bunch of dumb stupid wanna bee,s just like our rr officials is what these railfan FOAMERS really are, I wish they would just go away and stay home and play with thier HO trains in the basement or under thier x-mas trees.

Name: FUQCSX E-mail: Employed as: Brakeman, for 10-20 years Posted: 13 May 2009 STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE! STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE! STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE! STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE! STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!

Name: SAM the RAILROAD MAN E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 13 May 2009 STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE!STRIKE!STRIKE!

Name: Ennis E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 13 May 2009 I was saddened to hear about a fallen brother in Selkirk. I do not know the details of this tragic accident. My sympathy goes to his family. I do believe that CSX has put men in harms way in order to save a few dollars. I cannot understand a 1 man remote job- IT IS UNSAFE! I cannot understand a yard job with just an engineer and a foreman. All yard jobs should have a switchman, and all remotes should have 2 men. Why did the unions let them cut the jobs? I hate RCO jobs! I believe for safety reasons that WE should DEMAND change! I call for a SAFETY STRIKE! I am only one man/ one voice, but I realize that under these working conditions, Each and every one of us is at risk every day we are out here. One thing I have seen is a bunch of apathy in most workers here at CSX. The Company is run like crap! A bunch of morons making stupid decisions that affect our lives- LITERALLY! WE need to show solidarity to effect change. Everyone here knew it was just a matter of time until someone paid the ultimate sacrifice. Thank God that you are able to read this today, because it could be you tomorrow. Again, I feel for this man's family in their time of grief; my prayers are with them. If the allegations are correct about the TM, then someone needs to take him for a long walk. I hope the family sues for Billion$. I hope they bankrupt this Company! SAFETY STRIKE!!!!!!!!!!

Name: Steve Gordon E-mail: sgordon@gordon-elias.com Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 13 May 2009 Dear All- I am a lawyer that sues railroads. In our firms experience, only in VERY rare circumstances, do the railroads ever try to be fair to an injured employee. Ninety-nine percent of the time, the exact moment you make a report of injury you become the "enemy". It does not matter that you have given all you have to give for the railroad. CSX is, by far, the worst of the worst. They will convince people to lie about their injury after persuading them not to make a report. They will actually fly head honchos in from Jacksonville to do this. They know the person got hurt at work but they will just stand their and watch the person make a false statement after hours of intimidation. We like suing railroads and we like getting Managers under oath. Their evil ways do not stop with just injuries. They will do the same to a widow and try and quick settle with them. Sincerely, Lie Hunter

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 13 May 2009 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 11 May 2009 All you foamers need to listen up. Main gens. flashed over just the same as Tm's did. Most of the time it was caused by carbon dust from the brushes building up on the main gen. brush holders. When this happened to just one brush holder you were OK, just a normal GR problem. When it happened to a positive and neg. brush holder next to each other, boom and out came the fire ball. I've seen the pistons and rods come out as well before crank case protectors. Seen em keep runninng with the rod slapping the running board. Haul em in the shop cut a square out of the crankcase, weld a new "P" pipe in place using a mirror and slap an asslmbly in, back on the road. Goober sucks.XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXxxxxxx XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Folks this guy is your real life FOAMER. But that is OK I still see his point. I really liked the Mirror part, now that is the way to do it. Looking glass welding, new 2009 teck for the future??? HA HA buy what you can haul!!

Name: fedup E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 13 May 2009 Criminal charges should be pursued by this family, against the trainmaster as well as csx, accidental deaths are prosecutable if there was neglect, and the trainmaster definitely showed neglect. The coverup is underway.

Name: John E-mail: Employed as: Engine repair, for 30+ years Posted: 12 May 2009 Yeah, HTlong, Yesterday I visited a railroad guy with asbestos disease at the hospital - he was about 6 foot, 66 years old, white hair, breathed in an oxygen tent, weighed about 81 pounds. He died this morning, courtesey of the Cock Sucker Xpress. I say we STRIKE for safer working conditions.

Name: htlong E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 11 May 2009 E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 08 May 2009 TO HT I don't think I know, I was there. All we had was the old a/b/ units. Picture this Young man we used them on the locals? If real lucky we caught a GP. I still have a hearing and breathing loss from them, and was never compensated, but bet you were. You may have trained to keep them running, I cubbed a few trips and was put on the board and knew absolutely NOTHING about them. What little I learned as a Fireman was from the Engineer or Brakeman. Many Brakeman knew more about them than anyone. It was called getting over the road -------------------------------------- yeah,I just received a asbestos check last week! 3rd one this year...cough cough! over 8k this year with more to come cough cough!!!!!! HT LONG.....cough cough,cough

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 11 May 2009 A UTU member was fatally injured tonight on a one man remote control assignment which was an East End puller in Selkirk, NY. I have been advised he was ordered to change a knuckle by himself after requesting assistance from the car department. The unofficial report is he twice requested assistance from the car department as was ordered both times by the trainmaster in charge he would be required to change the knuckle without the assistance of the car department

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 11 May 2009 All you foamers need to listen up. Main gens. flashed over just the same as Tm's did. Most of the time it was caused by carbon dust from the brushes building up on the main gen. brush holders. When this happened to just one brush holder you were OK, just a normal GR problem. When it happened to a positive and neg. brush holder next to each other, boom and out came the fire ball. I've seen the pistons and rods come out as well before crank case protectors. Seen em keep runninng with the rod slapping the running board. Haul em in the shop cut a square out of the crankcase, weld a new "P" pipe in place using a mirror and slap an asslmbly in, back on the road. Goober sucks.

Name: RRJ E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 11 May 2009 Actually the flashover was in the traction motors. I've seen it several times. I have witnessed a piston shooting out of the cylinder on an engine watched the side panels blow open and all hell break loose. Knocked that fuses out of blocking the low water low oil buttons and there went the evidence. You foamers need to stay with whatever you did. Goober that means stick with selling cigarettes it suited you best. You're just a wannabe that never could handle the railroad. If you did in fact work for one. You might be living on stories from a family member.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 10 May 2009 Heard about main generators flashing over and shooting fire. Real world after riding them for 7 years never saw a single one, and no one told of a recent experience with this, so I figured it was just BS. Every locomotive that I ever rode that failed, was a ground relay, overspeed trip, or just died at idle. Isolate reset or start and that was it. They either ran or were hauled in dead. Did have a few that blew up, and clanked like crazy and were leaking oil and would not start. Hauled them in just like the rest. GUESS WHO

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 10 May 2009 Gee, I wonder when CSX will announce the sale of the Greenbrier Resort. http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idAFN0739818720090507?rpc=44 This was possibly the finest resort in the U.S. which was owned by the C&O when CSX was formed. The fact that CSX allowed the Greenbrier to deteriorate and go bankrupt it is beyond me. It makes me wonder if there wasn't an arm's length deal between Justice and members of CSX management!

Name: C&O JOE E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 10 May 2009 I knew Boggs was lying when I got to "got an offer from CN". Canadian National is one of the few class 1's left that actually care about running trains and servicing the customer. They would never taint their managment pool with a cum wad from the CSX. According to the material put out by TCI during the proxy war, CN had the best managment team and the lowest compensation of all class 1's. We had the worst performing managment team and the highest compensation, which is why I laugh when these officials try to tout themselves and the extent of their knowlage and ability. We are the worst of the worst while they are the best of the best. CN wouldn't give a CSX official a job on a rail grinder, let alone a superintendant.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Yard Master, for Less than 1 year Posted: 09 May 2009 Boggs needs a good stiff one - which is probably why he came to work for the Cock Sucker Xpress.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 09 May 2009 Holy cow...a voice out of the past! Boggs is like a ex-wife, quiet until she needs something. Working for the CN in Ontario, BC are you? Ontario is a Canadian Provence as is British Columbia...before you put your lies in writing, you better check your facts. I guess we'll be hearing from Plug Door, Pines and Big B next... I need a drink!

Name: BR BOGGS E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 10-20 years Posted: 09 May 2009 Ha ha i know you guys have been wondering about me,,, well i will tell you, got transfered 5 times on csx and did a stint with ns as asst super then got a good offer from CN railroad now i am super in ontario bc and i love it, now i am the real boss and have things running my way with my strick disipline ways and they shake in their shoes just by hearing my name, SO go and eat on that for awile..... get out of line with me and YOUR FIRED!!!!! One day i just might come back to CSX as GM....

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 1-10 years Posted: 08 May 2009 It will be interesting to see how the RR funds 30 new trainmaster safety jobs. Turn Labor into an Asset from a Cost? I remember you was all goosing each other like a bunch of idiots and the switcher hopped a derail then flipped. At the hearing, Steppenwolf wanted to gnaw on the Secretary's titties. He is an Italian prevert. The derail was il-legal - by the Foundary. We went home. My hearing aint too good. the railroads don't provide quiet working environoments. talking into a pig office telephone with the other end the deafening roar of a gunned 18wheeler Peterbilt Diesel hoggin a loaded pig for outbound. After ten years of 12 hour days, you would go deaf too. The RRs dont care. If you go deaf, they abolish you at the snap of the finger. They could have stopped the phone noise by simply having the truck driver get out of the cab and use a hut phone - but no, in the interest of simplicity, they opted for stupid and set up ops to ENSURE the truck driver stays in the cab when reporting billing information, haz mat, et al. There you go CSX. I just told you how to improve Safety. For FREE. F-R-E-E. Anybody home?

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 08 May 2009 What, I can't hear you. The fun part was when one of the main generators flashed over and your ass was trying to out run a big fireball rolling down the walk way.

Name: avejoe E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 08 May 2009 hey there shockey there is nothing wrong with hairy women maybe black women but not hairy lol fuck csx fuck the econmy and fuck all those working for csx makin the big bucks i see you drive by and flip you off sorry in advance for this lol

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 08 May 2009 TO HT I don't think I know, I was there. All we had was the old a/b/ units. Picture this Young man we used them on the locals? If real lucky we caught a GP. I still have a hearing and breathing loss from them, and was never compensated, but bet you were. You may have trained to keep them running, I cubbed a few trips and was put on the board and knew absolutely NOTHING about them. What little I learned as a Fireman was from the Engineer or Brakeman. Many Brakeman knew more about them than anyone. It was called getting over the road. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Name: HTLONG E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 07 May 2009 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 05 May 2009 I was there way before you and I hated it when we had to use power that would not run. By the way no Diesel Fireman ever worked for 1-2 hours on any fucking thing, except sitting in a seat. Go sell that fuse thing to someone that needs information. This guy is very much informed, as all real foamers are. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX YOU need to say that a little louder friend,I spent many hours in a wagontop aka A-B units keeping them running in aug.suffering a tremendous amount ofhearing loss. dont speak if you just think you know! ht long

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 07 May 2009 Hey HTL: DIDN'T THOSE 2 EX-WIVES CONTRIBUTE TO YOUR HEARING LOSS!!!

Name: HTLONG E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 07 May 2009 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 05 May 2009 I was there way before you and I hated it when we had to use power that would not run. By the way no Diesel Fireman ever worked for 1-2 hours on any fucking thing, except sitting in a seat. Go sell that fuse thing to someone that needs information. This guy is very much informed, as all real foamers are. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX YOU need to say that a little louder friend,I spent many hours in a wagontop aka A-B units keeping them running in aug.suffering a tremendous amount ofhearing loss. dont speak if you just think you know! ht long

Name: Justin Shockey E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 30+ years Posted: 07 May 2009 Matt Sanders loves fat, black, hairy woman from what I hear when I went to my investigation the other day. Look out Predator!!!! He is coming for you!!!hahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahha And winning an arguement from a CSX employee in Baltimore (LET ALONE IF IT IS ON LINE OR NOT) is not hard. It is LIKE FIGHTING IN THE SPECIAL OLYMPICS!!!hahahahahahhahahahahaha Just working there is a tribute to the special Olympics!!!hahahahahahah Dumbass waterheads!!!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 07 May 2009 I loved it years ago when the sound of that clickety clack clickety clack on the railroad track was music to my ears. Now, I am too deaf to hear anything. Except the sound of Z snoring gayly in the fireman's seat waiting on the engines to get cut off and hostle to the barn for a grease job.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 05 May 2009 What you were the dumdass that brought in the train with that lousy power? You stated you were there before me.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years Posted: 05 May 2009 Mind reading is not a qualification to be a TD even thou hoggers think it is....

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 05 May 2009 I was there way before you and I hated it when we had to use power that would not run. I never saw a single engineer go to sleep with out helping in any way they could. It was a matter of getting over the road, the brakeman was a part of that helping any way they could. As far as your comment on the Dispatcher, he most likely knew from the engine numbers, what was up and was not trying to play dumb, just hoping like I was that they would perform. By the way no Diesel Fireman ever worked for 1-2 hours on any fucking thing, except sitting in a seat. Go sell that fuse thing to someone that needs information. This guy is very much informed, as all real foamers are. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 03 May 2009 road power I loved it years ago when all the locomotives broke down you were dead in the water and we didn't have radio communications with the dispatchers out in the middle of bum phuck. One Easter morning that happened I was the firemen. I worked on those engines for 1-2 hours trying to get one back to life. When I got back to the head end both the engineer and brakemen were sleeping. It was a pouring down rainy morning. I hiked 3 miles to get to the call box to ring in the TD. When he answered it was like the whole world collapsed because they didn't have a clue to our situation. It hogged every train in both directions before they got another crew to cut their power off and drag us in. Back then you had water hoses every 10 miles putting water in the locomotive was a normal part of the job or taking govenor oil from one locomotive for another a fuse was our best friend prop them up against the low water low oil buttons to keep them from tripping. Today it's go to "level 2" hit the resets and hope for the best. If the battery is low today without a crank shaft your out of luck at least years ago if you had a little juice with a crank shaft there was a good possability it would fire up. You got to love modern technology.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 03 May 2009 road power I loved it years ago when all the locomotives broke down you were dead in the water and we didn't have radio communications with the dispatchers out in the middle of bum phuck. One Easter morning that happened I was the firemen. I worked on those engines for 1-2 hours trying to get one back to life. When I got back to the head end both the engineer and brakemen were sleeping. It was a pouring down rainy morning. I hiked 3 miles to get to the call box to ring in the TD. When he answered it was like the whole world collapsed because they didn't have a clue to our situation. It hogged every train in both directions before they got another crew to cut their power off and drag us in. Back then you had water hoses every 10 miles putting water in the locomotive was a normal part of the job or taking govenor oil from one locomotive for another a fuse was our best friend prop them up against the low water low oil buttons to keep them from tripping. Today it's go to "level 2" hit the resets and hope for the best. If the battery is low today without a crank shaft your out of luck at least years ago if you had a little juice with a crank shaft there was a good possability it would fire up. You got to love modern technology.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 03 May 2009 From the REAL FOGHORN LEGHORN, That sounds like something I WOULD LOVE TO DO!!!!! I have to agree with the gentleman below who tried to use my nickname to cover up for himself. But I have to give respect to him for two reasons: 1) He used my nickname to say something "I" would love to do and he used my name because he STILL works at that shit hole unlike me because I am more intelligent than any CSX management, let alone CSX employee in Baltimore and got the hell out when the timing was right!!! (I realize this website is looked at globally, let alone nation wide. But that doesn't take much to be more intelligent than anyone in Baltimore...PERIOD!!) 2) I consider you a gentleman for being on the same page I am. I honestly consider that a compliment and THANK YOU!!:0):0):0):0)...Use my nickname all you want!!!!! Have a safe CSX DAY!!! Safety is a way of life!!! You will need it in BALTIMORE!!!LMAO LMAO LMAO No matter what route you go!!!... :0):0):0).... FOGHORN LEGHORN.......(Whats up Danny??)

Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 30+ years Posted: 03 May 2009 Goober is a pud puller.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 03 May 2009 Well Lloyd, I was prepared to join you in the great CSX swine flu epidemic yesterday, but I got cut off again and couldn't even hold anything to mark off from... but I was there with you guys that had the balls to do it in spirit. I hope the HOS law comes into effect shortly and is not delayed again and Mikey Ward and the boys take it straight up the arse!!! Maybe some of our furloughed brothers and sisters can actually mark back up then!

Name: road power E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 02 May 2009 This is nothing new at all as when i first hired on the junk power was always there, We used to call them MONEY MAKERS as they would break down very often so you just truged along at 10 mph untill you outlawed and soaked up all the OT you could get,,Hell a lot of times they would give you 2 of those old GP units with 10 thousand tons and the all the di,s would say,, Do the best you can,, Sort of seemed like they could cared less if you got the train over the road and they still think that way today.... The new locos with the computers work fine untill something goes wrong then you wait for hours for the engine house people to come out and fix the problem and many times they can not do a dam thing, so you just outlaw and they could care less after all the OT money and re-crew cost are not comming out of thier back pockets,Yes sir we really do have constructive managment,,I think a bunch of 5th grade school kids could run this rr better than the dumb stooges we have in managment today and we have more than just 3 stooges in those ivory towers.............

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 02 May 2009 What??? I made a accurite assesment. I don't get your point. I could give a crap if my locomotives break down there isn't a damn thing I can do to get them back running with all this modern computer crap on board. Some of the junk we are using on the road we haven't seen in years it was down graded to yard service. I don't mind in fact let's go back to the old days of 4-5 locomotives on a train hoping we can keep at least 1 or 2 running. Been there done that.

Name: foghorn leghorn E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 01 May 2009 Last night, I fucked Michael Ward's soon- to -be ex- wife. I bent that little whore like a pretzel and shot a load in her ass. It was the least I could do for the team. Video footage to follow.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 01 May 2009 Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 28 April 2009 Someone brought up that point to management the other day. Why are all the good locomotives in storage? The junk we're seeing is being tagged by engineers everyday. They just turn them into trail units till they fully break down. +++++++++++ You are an Engineer with 30 years of service and after all of those years you can't figure out why the csx saves a few and gives up a few. Do you drive your new car/truck to work or the old one? As locomitives age they are simply a machine to make money with, same as the vehicle you drive to work. How long can ya stand one that does not start or run. Now you have the reason why csx saves the hours and money on the best, the the freight will come back and the used up loco's will also be in the scrap pile. It is really like throwing out the trash before the sack is full or waite a few and then do it.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 28 April 2009 Someone brought up that point to management the other day. Why are all the good locomotives in storage? The junk we're seeing is being tagged by engineers everyday. They just turn them into trail units till they fully break down. I haven't gotten to the point of hating this job. I'm frustrated at all the ignorance that I see by those who are in charge. It wasn't that long ago management and labor worked together things ran smooth. Today's atmosphere of total management control has brought this railroad down to a snails crawl. It'll take time but eventually someone will take off the blinders and realise it's not working. There's no need to mention who's responsible everyone knows who to point the finger at till Ward or the board of directors wakes up it's more of the same.

Name: SorrySadSack E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 27 April 2009 Hey Let's store some more engines!!! Why run trains??????????????? Guess ole CSX doesn't need the money????? Please somebody explain why this is happening????? If they are storing why are they storing the "good" (as good of quality CSX can provide)engines can anybody answer this??? I hate this job!! Heil Ingram!!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 25 April 2009 Hey Will Blanchetti, I hope to see you in Blacksburg this fall. Come by the south end of the stadium by RV parking (Diamond hokie lot where all REAL hokie fans are). I will be waiting for you!!! Bring Matt "THE RAT" Sanders with you. I have a couple of boys that you might know that would like to say hello. Just old alumni that would like to share a beer or two with you or BLOODY Mary's!!!!! Have a safe CSX day and hope to see you soon....:0):0):0)

Name: maverick E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 25 April 2009 You railroad clowns make me laugh. You think your Unions represent you? You think the Unions need your dues to exist? WRONG! The carriers pay the Unions more money per year than you will ever know...Because it is illegal! But hey, It's America....Everything is ok. You clowns think that a Union will stand up for you- when you pansies won't even stand up for yourselves. Hilarious to think about what rights and privileges you clowns have squandered over the years. Real Trainmen died to get you these Unions and you pansies disgrace the memories of the real trainmen that built this country. You boys got no backbone, so why do you think your unions would be any different. Ask your union this: 'what have you done for me lately?' NOTHING?! And how much did it cost you last year in dues? Wake Up, Get Up, Stand Up!

Name: Chicken slack action pants E-mail: Employed as: Car repair, for 1-10 years Posted: 24 April 2009 You see, the position I'm in my personal life affords me the opportunity to see management in a unique way. Example: I was walking down the street one day, minding my own business and then suddenly, A pile of fresh steaming pile of dog shit, un-molested by flysĽ looked up at me and said, "You're no fucking good." See where I'm getting at? Ľ A pile of fresh steaming pile of dog shit, un-molested by flys = CSX management.

Name: fedup E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 24 April 2009 Just thought I would share this tid bit about our glorious csx, I was injured on the job, payrol shorted my check the last day I worked, I called them and they acknowledged error, check earning statement and payrol deducted all towards health ins, all 117. of it, wow, heartless, no money comin in and they needed this. I hope this money pays for 1 of mikeys cigars.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 24 April 2009 Yeah Dude, keep dreaming. When oldheads leave this railroad will fall apart. We are the only thing at times keeping it going. Hopefully some of those that were fortunate to hire in the early to mid '90s who learned and worked with real railroaders will pass along this knowledge after we're gone. Because most of us have gotten to the point of just waiting to retire and having a blast watching this place go downhill. Micro-managing should be on "Comedy Central". What use to take 45 min - 1 hr when we actually had empowerment is now 4 hrs and longer. Let management tell us how to make the move that's the biggest pitfall of micro-managing. Keep up the good work.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 24 April 2009 CSX has never had a requirement of 100 cars per week from any customer, Period. Silly stuff! CSX would refuse to haul sand, Silly Again. Set Back clause is silly stuff also, who cares! they are running a business. Keep on going slower, and slower, and talking to yourself. The Old heads sold all new hires away many years ago, by paying dues to the devil. Give an old head a dollar and he/ she will work until the young person starves. I sure would have loved to see the Engineers get the remote and see them try to run it??It simply would not have Worked. Picture a 350lb x fireman /engineer riding a car at 3am rain and 12 degrees. DEAD is the result =================================================================================================================================================================================================================== Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 24 April 2009 Stress on CSX? That's an understatement. This person was in sales. I can't even imagine the stress he endured making excuses for CSX business practices. CSX has run more business away in the past 20 years than it's acquired. All the locals we worked to service Mom & Pop shops CSX didn't want unless they could gaurentee 100 cars per week forcing them to truck in/out their suppies or product. In a lot of cases CSX purposely delayed service to run these customers away. A practice that still excists today. We had one major glass plant that we lost because CSX couldn't/wouldn't deliver sand a component of glass making. CSX depends on one road switcher to work 4-5 different places in 12 hours when they can't even get it out of the terminal in 6 hours due to incompetency. It was a regular job but because it had a set-back clause they schidt canned it and put it in the freight pools with a majority that never worked these places in years or if ever. This job never claimed set-backs until new management took over 14 months ago. CSX is to arrogant an incompetent to realise the problem is in the management technics they utilize today one of intimidation and fear. Labor will continue to slow-down until things change just by working totally by 100% rules compliance. With these micro-managing TM's running up and down the leads in their vehicles spying and screaming out orders with 90% of the time not informing the YM it's total confusion. CSX has never had a requirement of 100 cars per week from any customer

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 24 April 2009 Stress on CSX? That's an understatement. This person was in sales. I can't even imagine the stress he endured making excuses for CSX business practices. CSX has run more business away in the past 20 years than it's acquired. All the locals we worked to service Mom & Pop shops CSX didn't want unless they could gaurentee 100 cars per week forcing them to truck in/out their suppies or product. In a lot of cases CSX purposely delayed service to run these customers away. A practice that still excists today. We had one major glass plant that we lost because CSX couldn't/wouldn't deliver sand a component of glass making. CSX depends on one road switcher to work 4-5 different places in 12 hours when they can't even get it out of the terminal in 6 hours due to incompetency. It was a regular job but because it had a set-back clause they schidt canned it and put it in the freight pools with a majority that never worked these places in years or if ever. This job never claimed set-backs until new management took over 14 months ago. CSX is to arrogant an incompetent to realise the problem is in the management technics they utilize today one of intimidation and fear. Labor will continue to slow-down until things change just by working totally by 100% rules compliance. With these micro-managing TM's running up and down the leads in their vehicles spying and screaming out orders with 90% of the time not informing the YM it's total confusion.

Name: Chicken slack action pants E-mail: Employed as: Car repair, for 1-10 years Posted: 24 April 2009 The murder-suicide of the Billotti-Wood family Scholars link Wood's stressful work situation as an employee for CSX Railroad http://www.gazette.net/stories/04232009/urbanew172707_32531.shtml

Name: turtlehead E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 23 April 2009 I heard that same shit, Rube. Hell, I heard more like 3 years or even turning P'cola into a Flomerton. You boys in the JAX division are getting the root buried all up in your guts. Stay strong, brothers. Remember May 1rst! " We must all hang together, or surely we will all hang separately!" Make May 1rst a day to spend at home with your families. Take one day out of your busy life and do not even think about CSX or working. I wonder how many brothers will do that? I never met a bunch of men that talked so much shit, but bowed down like little bitches. And you oldheads are the worst ones- ya'll need testosterone injections cause ya'll done sold your souls so many times you cannot hardly consider yourselves men anymore. I'm just Sayin'

Name: Rube E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years Posted: 23 April 2009 They been talkin' 'bout shuttin' down the P&A/PD for awhile now. I heard Tommy got a bonus for reducing the manpower there in Pensacola. Furloughs = brownie points with management. Melvin said they gonna run everthing off extra boards in May. and they gonna furlough about 10-20 more people there. So, look out Mobile! Them boys is coming and if you ain't got 6-7 years seniority= welcome to furlough city or New Orleans. I'd rather be furloughed than live in that shit hole! Good Luck and Hope it don't last 2 more years like they been sayin'.

Name: average joe E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 23 April 2009 hey guys i dont know who zorro or nomo are but im joe not a ghost account controlled by another member so there

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 22 April 2009 BOB FRULLA FOURLOUGHING AGAIN IN ERWIN AND AROUND THE HUNTINGTON DEVISION. FUNNY MR FRULLA HOW LAST TIME YOU CUTT EVERYONE HERE OFF YOU HAD CREW CALLERS CALLING ME TELLING ME YOU HAD TRAINS TIED DOWN EVERYWHERE WHITH NO ONE TO MOVE THEM. YOU COULD NOT FILL YOUR REGULAR ASSIGNMENTS, YOU DID NOT HAVE ENOUGH MAN POWER TO RUN THE ERWIN AREA AND IM SURE THE REST OF THE HUNTINGTON DEVISION THEN YOU CALL US BACK AND HAS TROUBLE GETTING PEOPLE TO MARK BACK UP BE FOR SURE MR FRULLA THAT THIS TIME WHEN YOU HAVE TRAINS SITTING AND JOBS ARE UNFILLED AND YOU HAVE TO CUT THE FOURLOUGH BOARD THAT YOULL BE WITHOUT THE MANPOWER BECAUSE NO ONE HERE IS MARKING UP UNTIL THE VERY LAST MINUTE THEY HAVE TO OR EVEN LONGER IT HAS DONE BEEN DISSCUSSED. TREAT US LIKE WE ARE NOTHING THATS WHAT YOULL GET IN RETURN. EVERYTIME YOU FOURLOUGH MONTH ON AND MONTH OFF WITH NO NOTICE YOU JUST CAUSE PEOPLE TO HATE THIS COMPANY MORE. fOR THE OLD HEADS WHO ARE RACKING A NICE 4,000-5,000-6,000 OR MORE CHECK EVERY HALF WITH 50 GUYS CUTT BACK REMEMEBER THAT YOUR FUCKING US UP THE ASS AS MUCH AS MR FRULLA IS. IF EVERYONE WOULD TAKE A FUCKING DAY OFF EVERY HALF IT WOULD SURELY HELP EVERYONE OUT. AND BEFORE YOU RESPOND TO THIS DONT GIVE ME THAT FUCKING IVE BEEN THERE AND I DIDNT GO OUT AND GET IN DEPHT FUNNY TO ME THAT THE RAILROADS GOT YOUR NUTS RIGHT BEFORE YOU RETIRE BECAUSE YOUR FUCKING SOAKING IN LOADS OF FUCKING DEPHT!

Name: short line E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 21 April 2009 Man if you dudes think these class one rr,s suck then try working for a non union short line, You would quit in a min and beg to come back to a class one rr, I work for a short line and it sucks 100 times over than csx, The ole saying the grass always looks greener on the other side is a true fact.. At least be thankfull that most of you work for a class one rr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Name: Somebody who cares E-mail: Congrats CSX@fu.com Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 20 April 2009 http://blackpoliticalthought.blogspot.com/2009/04/christopher-wood-33-kills-his-wife.html Sad part was you never heard of this guy on the news working for CSX!!! How much did you pay them Michael Ward. I am challenging you personally!!! Are you going to step up and not hide behind Steve Ingram for once?? Oh no, that would mean you being a man!!!!! Heavin for bid if that situation ever came up!!!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 1-10 years Posted: 19 April 2009 Buddy, You really shouldn't advertise someones ID # on here and make accusations that are not true. Especially on a man that is good to be around. If you are going to make accusations like that, make them about a guy in Baltimore named Matt "The Rat" Sanders who turns on his employees because he THINKS he is promised a officer job!! He is also a young dumbass who has no sense and has no clue what he is getting into according to friend of mine out there in Maryland. I was out there last week. NOBODY talks to this idiot!!! Look up his ID (and people like him) and post his ID number, NOT MR. Salzaar (or however you speel it). If you all are ever out there in MD and see someone driving around in a blue puerto rican mobile, you know who it is.

Name: average jo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 19 April 2009 oh yeah one more thing THATS RIGHT ON EVERY FORUM LOL HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH

Name: average joe E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 19 April 2009 guys im sorry for my post im still drunk to all you guys out there on furloughed status im am truly sorry i am a family man myself and since tencare just dropped my one year old daughter becuase my last name isnt henadez or brown i can feel your pain bieng the man of the house isnt easy and im just here to say i dont mean to come off abrasive in my post and im sure a railroader will condem me for posting on something i have no time in with i would just like to say you guys rock and me bieng on the outside trying to get in for so long im kinda jealous if you cant tell by my previous posts goodby note like all of you that put up with there shit you do it for your family not for your health or love of the job i have worked several places where company moral was low the only thing that kept me from quitting where my brothers in need of experinced help and my loyalty to them not the compay that we all got screwed by which at the time was well i wont say in case my case worker at csk is readin this post and that would id me to them, i hope all you guys get called back to work and then maybe ill get my call to come learn from you guys and have the chance to be furloughed you know deep down i think its sad to want a job you know that once you get hired you will be trained and immediatly be layed off but hell im married so apperantly im a glutton for punishment lol im just some guy trying to do what is best for his family with what i have to work with so guys maybe i will be a railroader one of these days if i am i will be proud to say it was to my own accomplishment and that is all so guys heres another drunk post by me joe have a safe motherfuckin day joe

Name: avearge joe E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 19 April 2009 So yes CSX does suck it sucks big hairy monkey balls i got a job in tn in november i want to say so i email my case worker and they tell me that since they already have so many conductors furloughed that it would be prudent for me to seek employment elswhere in the company i thought that the only reason i was getting a job was becuase of the new HOS law since my dad nor anyone im related to works for csx and i was never in the military for those guys who where in the coast gaurd lol and got military prefarence. So all these big plans of making decent money in ten years from now when i no longer would have to worry about bieng furloughed for the moment are gone im an electrician right now and doing good considering the econemy and all and to all those working for the company it may suck but know that finacially those who are working at least in tn have it alot better than most right now You know i think its funny i have done alot of contract work for csk ns and up the guy i did it with his son graduated from conductor school before he turned 18 and then i had to listed to him tell me how he couldnt help me get a job. yeah right is all i got to say to all of you who dont reply fuck you have a fucking safe motherfucking day average joe ps im drunk so can i be an engineer no really i am drunk right now so sorry for my bulligernce!!!!

Name: George E-mail: Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 30+ years Posted: 19 April 2009 UNION DE-CERTIFICATION: I agree with Sam and the retired Conductor of 30+ years. Lloyd has many good points on this subject as well. There are a great number of old heads from all the crafts that I have spoken with who agree. We have been around a very long time and have seen the changes for the worse. We all agree that unless something drastic is done to reverse the decline of the railroad union, railroad workers in all trades will suffer severe consequences in the very near future. Over the last few decades, beginning with the 60s and 70s, stretching forward to the 21st century, the present Railroad Unions have gone to the bargaining table again and again and come away empty handed on all the major issues. We have seen our wages, benefits and rights eroded to the point of utter humiliation. The reality is this: our current Railroad labor unions are outdated in their planning and policy - they are out-classed by the Carriers, and they have become completely marginalized and totally in-effective when it comes to the big policy issues that have huge affects on our lives. Meanwhile the CSX, Norfolk Southern, Union Pacific, Santa Fe Burlington Northern -and now the Canadian National- are eating our lunch at the bargaining table. While our Unions have been floundering, the Railroad Companies are hard at work making plans to rightsize us at every step greasing the political machinery 24/7 and bagging the breaks they need to get a huge leg up on legislation such as Railroad Retirement, FELA, Hours of Service Act, and the next round of bargaining. If history is any indication, we don't stand a chance against the large Carriers with the current Union administration. Even as recently as the last Bush adminstration, we had to stand by and watch while the Union helplessly signed away our right to strike. Now is the time to make a change. Now is the time Railroad workers can make progress. We have a new democratic administration at the helm of our national political process. We have a huge window of opportunity to better our work lives and make enormous progress for ourselves for the first time in years. However, our Unions have remained passive in the face of great opportunities. They apparently are happy with the way things are - and apparently are ok with watching the opportunities for a potential turn-around for railroad labor unions - the best time in the last quarter of a century - be lost forever. Is this the way you want your Union to represent you? Employees who no longer want a particular union to represent them whether it's because the union is undemocratic, corrupt, violent, OR just plain inept are entitled to seek an election to determine if a majority of their coworkers wants to drop the union. Such elections are known as "decertification elections." They are not rare -- several hundred take place in a typical year. Employees who want to vote a union out have to circulate a petition calling for a decertification election. Here is what a sample petition looks like: ********************************************************************* Petition for Decertification (RD) Removal of Representative The undersigned employees of ____________________________________ (employer name) do not want to be represented by ____________________________________ (union name). Should the undersigned employees make up 30% or more (and less than 50%) of the bargaining unit represented by____________________________________ (union name), the undersigned employees hereby petition to hold a decertification election to determine whether a majority of employees no longer wish to be represented by this union. Should the undersigned employees make up 50% or more of the bargaining unit represented by ____________________________________ (union name), the undersigned employees hereby request that ___________________________________ (employer name) withdraw recognition from this union immediately, as it does not enjoy the support of a majority of employees in the bargaining unit. SIGNATURE NAME DATE (PRINT) ______________________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________________. There has been a lot of discussion on these boards of late about de-certification of the current unions, and replacing them with new unions and new leadership. I think this deserves some very serious discussion AND some very deliberate action. Thank you, -Brother George

Name: Jimbo1 E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 19 April 2009 You guys suck. You guys are big losers. You guys have no lives making fun of a good railroad like CSX. CSX is actually a decent railroad, and sure, it has its faults and mess-ups, but give them a break! All railroads have their faults/mess-ups! Nobody is perfect! They are a relatively good railroad! Also, for all of you railfans, I'm sure that most railfans hate seeing rail lines get abandoned, right? CSX doesn't abandon lines much. The worst railroad when it comes to abandoning lines is Union Pacific, who abandons way more lines than most railroads. They also have way more accidents than CSX. You can't blame CSX for hitting cars/trucks at railroad crossings, either! You guys are so retarded! Most trains need at least a mile to stop, so how are they going to stop when some idiot driver decides to be a moron! They can't help if the driver is stupid enough to race a train! 10 minutes saved is not worth risking your life over! Trains very very rarely waste any more time than 10 minutes. Is 10 minutes worth risking your life over? No! This is very stupid! Also, look both ways before crossing railroad crossings! Also, every company has its share of bad employees, so you can't just go around bugging CSX because they have SOME bad employees. Like I said, no company is perfect! If you are going to make fun of any railroad, make fun of Union Pacific. UP sucks, their service is very slow (the trains usually only go like 2 miles per hour or something like that that is really slow), They abandon lines all of the time (that's very loser-ish for a railroad to do), and they hardly ever even run trains on their lines! Like, there is one line that I live near where there are only 3 or 4 trains a day! So, if you are going to ridicule any railroad, you should at least do it to a railroad that REALLY DOES SUCK, LIKE UNION PACIFIC! IT SUCKS!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 19 April 2009 Wildman Cool your jets. Let's not get into a tizzy. Instead of complaining why not post some of your grievences.

Name: Wildman E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 18 April 2009 What is all this political crap doing on this website anyway??????? I thought this was supposed to be a place for CSX employees to come and vent frustrations and to get direction in finding solutions for problems with the "company"!!!!! Haven't you all seen that arguing politics is like "rasslin" with a pig? After you get done,the pig is still a pig and he probably enjoyed it.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 17 April 2009 HHHHMMMMMMMMMMM, I thought George Washington got to be President . Maybe I'm wrong.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 17 April 2009 cont. Stem cell research good for us it's time someone quits letting their relious conflictions (convictions for those who want to be PC) stand in the way of medical progress. We are so far in the dark medically than other countries. Abortion rights great we have a president that understands it's a indivdual choice not to be dictated by over zealous religious fanatics. Thank Gawd, he has the power to nominate federal judges in this country there are at least 20 positions. Let's get rid of the conservative repo friendly corporate friendly morons presently on the bench that have been there since Raygun & Daddy Bush. Junior, I suppose you think members of the KKK< Aryan Nation, or Timothy McVae to name a few should be considered enemy soldier combatant rather that terrorists? Your theory stinks. Those who claimed overthrow of goverment by terrorism have always been brought to trial instead of unequally detained indefinitely. I hope I covered all your uninformed opinions.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 17 April 2009 The Shrub & congress were already bailing out Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac ect...while he was still in office it was definitely setting the current trend. Obama at least got through to these corporate welfare recipients that they aren't immune from getting canned for arrogance and stupidity. Hopefully these loans/bailouts will help over time. Did Dubya really make us safer? I just think America had a wake up call. We aren't untouchable as we felt over the past 92 years since WWI & WWII never really affected our shores. Those held in Gitmo under the Shrub were not allowed rights under the Geneva Convention seeing their considered terrorist not enemy soldier combatants which makes Gitmo illegal in my book under human rights violations. Which throws your referrence to German & Japanese POW's who were afforded rights under the Geneva Covention out the window. One of the darkest chapters in Americas history is the internmant of Japanese Americans during WWII. Their sons to prove loyalty to this country fought bravely in the Europian Theatre during WWII in the 442nd Infantry, 100th Infantry ect...the 442nd is the most highly decorated outfit in the Armed Forces with 21 Medals of Honor, 9486 Purple Hearts, 560 Silver stars, 4000 Bronze Stars ect... and a casualty rate in WWII of 314%. Why didn't this country intern Italian Americans, or German Americans? Hell, some in the German community even started the German American Bund which promoted the Nazi Ideology. Obama is doing the right thing. Those at Gitmo will finally be brought before our legal system. To determine their crimes if any and put in prison or released. I believe there are some even if it's just a few who have been unlawfully detained. Get over it. Am I a liberal? I consider myself a centrist. Which if your not sure of what that means I'm conservative leaning on some issues and liberal leaning on others.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 17 April 2009 You haven't seen significant changes? The banks and major car companies are now being run by the gov't. Stem cell research is now permitted. Gitmo is being closed. (Do you want them in your neighborhood?) BTW, what do you mean we don't improsin people without due course?? You seem to be a parrot for the far left. Did we give Japanes or German prisoners constitutional rights? Do we give them access to an attorney? Many of your ilk complain about how we invaded a country that we weren't at war with and we still remain there. We invaded Germany without them doing anything to us first and we remain there 6 decades later. Maybe we should apologize for that too? And, BTW, Osama bin WHO??? He's a mere embarrassment to his cause. His murderous act has cost his community dearly and now they have the presence of foriegners to contend with for years or decades to come. Obama has made the world apology tour touting how evil America has been. He's changing the very fabric of this country and you want more. Consider this too... You remember all the evil Bush policies he encated to make us safer? Why hasn't Obama simply removed them by executive order? It's simple, fast, effective and it's what he promised? When will that happen? I know that's a lot of things to consider and you won't find the answers in the NY Times. Take a few years to think about it and get back to us.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 17 April 2009 Cond 1-10 Most jobs only allow 8 weeks for maternity leave in fact I do believe you're protect by federal law. One year was definitely excessive unless you went to the union an asked for a leave of absence. Or, you could of applied for FMLA which would of required a doctor to fill out the forms with CSX approval. That would of been tough with the length of time you took off no real medical needs. As for losing your seniority it had to come from someone at a union meeting requesting it. Then a formal investigation had to commence. You should of been notified as to the date of the hearing. If you have proof you were never notified then you can appeal it.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 17 April 2009 Lloyd I don't think your going to see significant change overnight definitely not in 100 days. A first term president is weighted down by policy of the last president. I do believe Obama is moving in the right direction 1)closing Gitmo 2)trying to get us out of Iraq 3)trying to put world opinion of us in a better light ect...trying to correct something the Shrub, Rumsfeld, and Cheney managed to destroy over the course of their time in office. We are America land of the free. We don't imprison people without due course of the courts, we don't needlessly attack countries over worthless speculation, and we don't become a lone wolf without support of our allies. Did the Shrub protect America or the world? Hell NO!!!! Osama Bin Laden is still alive an well. All the Shrub did was create a better reason for terrorist to recruit new terrorist. In my opinion the world is a more dangerous place because of Dubya's actions.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 17 April 2009 I think CSX has many ways of reducing thier workforce...especially when it comes to women. I paid for my "choo choo school" completed my probation period then discovered I was pregnant. I worked until I was almost due(even though they wanted me to go sooner) then took my maternity leave.Mind you when I called to mark off for this the caller had no idea how or what to do LOL after awhile of being on hold and talking to his supervisors we got it straight.I was never tol any specifics about maternity leave from the company or my union rep...I was nursing and not in a hurry to return to work but loved my job(something I cannot say about any other previous employment) I didnt hear from the company or union rep regarding my return so I figured it was due to business being slow etc.A year after I went on maternity leave I recieved a registered letter from CSX stating that within 30 days,they wanted a form filled out from the doctor that "i was under the care of" if I wanted to return to work or I could just sign off my seiority rights and stay off work.(still hadnt heard from my union rep, even though I left messages)I sent csx the form filled out stating I was able and willing to return to work in the alotted time only to recieve a letter from them stating I had given up my senority rights and nothing regarding my return to work!!! Again I called my union rep and never heard back....I was so frustrated that there was nothing I could do to get back my job.Mind you I was still paying off my tuition for a job that I could even return to!!!Needless to say I dont think very highly of CSX or the union.As the saying goes CSX SUCKS

Name: spongebob E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 17 April 2009 Hey there Loco. Eng. 30+ I'm sure there are lots of folks at Avon that are'nt aware of Mr. Salazar's sick behavior that has resulted in him being convicted of being a pediofile. I know for a fact (public court records-online) that there is a lot of employees at Avon that have been convicted of some pretty serious crimes but I don't really give a shit. The reason I mention Mr. Salazar is when someone molest children this goes into a whole other realm of crime. I do realize Mr. Salazar won't be bending any employees over the control stand any time soon, and we as CSX employees are'nt in danger of being molested. But I also realize that CSX occasionally has family cookouts and other events that involve our children, and he should be watched. I'm also sure we are smart enough to not harrass Mr. Salazar at work about this issue as it could result in discipline. Regardless, of what you or any body else thinks, if this posting of information prevents 1 child from being molested in the future it was worth it. By the way, his I.D. # was obtained by looking at the vacation roster, so it is not confidential info. everyone at work has access to other employees names and I.D. #'s.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 17 April 2009 To the post by Screw you M of W10 to 20.when you posted why NOT SAY OBAMA WAS FROM ALSO WHITE TRASH SINCE HE IS NOT ALL BLACK.HAVE A GOOD OBAMAISH DAY.

Name: Lloyd E-mail: Employed as: Brakeman, for 1-10 years Posted: 17 April 2009 Screw you... You must be an idiot if you truly think Bush was an idiot. The man graduated from Harvard for god sakes..and was voted to run the most powerful country in the world. I agree that a lot of his policies were stupid and he could have done a lot of things different, but it wasn't just the president who makes all the calls. As for Fox news, they are a little more towards the right wing, but they are dominating cable television right now and are pretty fair with their coverage. If you want to talk about unbalanced and unfair news just turn on msnbc or cnn. Also, just because a democrat is in office doesn't mean he will be the union mans saving grace. Let's see the action before we build him a shrine already. I don't have one problem with Obama and hope he makes some great changes but as of yet I haven't noticed anything significant. All I've seen is a huge spending bill that supports our own congress and wall street more than it does me.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 16 April 2009 I'm not sure I can agree with posting someones name & company ID on this site. I'm not going to check his offenses on the registry for sexual offenders which I'm sure others will. I don't plan on visiting Indiana anytime in the near future or if ever. This should of been kept locally this can open up a can of worms on this site.

Name: screw you E-mail: Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years Posted: 16 April 2009 Fuck all you obama haters,,, the guy won by a landslide he crushed mac-palin, Yea you hate him cuz he is black, but he got more brains in his foot than GWB had in his entire body, Name me 1 republican pres that was pro union pro railroad pro working man? OBAMA is all 3..... Guess there are just to many old farts on this site that have been BRAINWASHED by fat ass drugie rush the turd mouth LIMBAUGH and the morons on FOX news,, I know 1 thing GWB was pro short line scab railroads, I guess all of those short line railroaders are very happy to be working for less than half the wages of the class 1 union workers...NOT !!!!!

Name: spongebob E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 16 April 2009 ATTN: Avon employees Francisco S. Salazar I.D.#574149 a CSX employee at AVON yard currently working the IN-IE side is a convicted pediofile. I am not making this up or passing along a rumor. Please visit www.insor.org INSOR stands for, Indiana Sexual Offender Registry Once you log onto the web site go to the middle of the page to City Search and go to Avon. Once there, a map wiil appear with lots of square boxes, select the appropriate box where CSX is located and you will see a picture of F.S. Salazar along with what he has been convicted of.

Name: Sally E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years Posted: 15 April 2009 Judy Curtis was Joan of Arc. Blah Blah Blah. I worked with Judy. Nothing special, just did her job. Got lucky and did not get fired or permanently laid off. Sometimes you gotta wonder if it really was only hard work......lots of politics and hanky panky goes on behind these walls.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 15 April 2009 Will all the dumb asses that post the same garbage under every section fucking quit it. Put it in the proper section and only post it once. The way you do it now makes you look like super dumb shits.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 15 April 2009 Amazing how management insists no cut backs or yard closings are in the future....Then the very next day (today April 14, 2009) they come in and announce that 50% YES FIFTY percent of the workforce is being laidoff effective June 1,2009...Goes to show you that Management can never be trusted!!!!!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 14 April 2009 Name: retired E-mail: fitzgerald ga Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 13 April 2009 TO ENGINEER THAT KEEPS POSTING ABOUT Judy Curtis. You really need to quit the people that new her knows what a fine person she is. JUST LET HER INJOY HER RETIREMENT FOR SHE DESERVE IT.tHE REASON A LOT OF PEOPLE DIDNOT KNOW HER IN LABOR RELATION WAS BECAUSE SHE REALLY WAS HONEST AND FAIR TO EVERYONE SHE DELT WITH.IF MORE c s x management was or had been like JUDY THE EMPLOYEES WORKING WOULD HAVE A BETTER ATTITUDE AND THINGS WOULD BE MORE ENJOYABLE FOR THE WORKING CLASS OF PEOPLE. i will ot post anything else about JUDY CURTIS FOR i know what a fine person she is. View This Article ==================================================================== -------------------------------------------------------------------- I haven't said a word about Judy. The only thing I did was dissect a letter that was posted here. Not a very nice letter either, I might add. The letter showed what these people think about you and I. The other response under safety, Judy posted herself under classmates.com. and it was just pasted here. Then I added my thoughts at the bottom. By the way who made you the one to decide what I can and can't post.

Name: President, CSX E-mail: CSXexecutive.com Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years Posted: 13 April 2009 Attention CSX Employees: Effectively immediately, all CSX union members will receive a $1 million dollar stock bonus (CSX Common Stock, par $25 value). To qualify, you must be a certified union member as of April 12, 2009. Your checks have been processed and will be mailed to you tomarrow, April 13, 2009. Recipients are responsible for payment of all social security and income tax payments. Furthermore, all employess with 30 or more years of active service will be entitled to double indemnity payments under amended RR Retirement Act of 2009. Retirees will receive a 2009 Mercedes Benz SX9100 from CSX for your retirement gift. Thank you for your dedicated service to this company. CSX is a GREAT place to work! We respect out workers! Thank you! Sincerely, President, CSX Transporation Company April Fool, you dumb ass! BWHAAAAahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years Posted: 13 April 2009 I think Judy went to school at Georgia with Clarence Gooden. She wwas his tutor.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 13 April 2009 I guess Judy Curtis was the exception rather than the rule! Two thoughts cross my mind. If she was as fair, honest and nice as she's purported, how did she keep her job? And why would she want to? I also hope she enjoys her retirement If she's the Saint you say she is, I bet her bosses are glad to see her go...probably helped her out the door!

Name: retired E-mail: fitzgerald ga Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 13 April 2009 TO ENGINEER THAT KEEPS POSTING ABOUT Judy Curtis. You really need to quit the people that new her knows what a fine person she is. JUST LET HER INJOY HER RETIREMENT FOR SHE DESERVE IT.tHE REASON A LOT OF PEOPLE DIDNOT KNOW HER IN LABOR RELATION WAS BECAUSE SHE REALLY WAS HONEST AND FAIR TO EVERYONE SHE DELT WITH.IF MORE c s x management was or had been like JUDY THE EMPLOYEES WORKING WOULD HAVE A BETTER ATTITUDE AND THINGS WOULD BE MORE ENJOYABLE FOR THE WORKING CLASS OF PEOPLE. i will ot post anything else about JUDY CURTIS FOR i know what a fine person she is.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: CSX Customer, for N/A Posted: 12 April 2009 C S X stock $29.75 SHOULD MAKE IT BACK TO THE $30.00 range MONDAY.the r.r.stock is going to get higher because they keep screwing everyone the employees and its customers even though freight shipments is down a lot.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 12 April 2009 HELLO, TO EVERY ONE. I WAS WONDERING IF ANY ONE CAN SHARE SOME LIGHT ON THE COAL YARD IN VIRGINIA NEWPORT NEWS, AND IF ANY ONE KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT DOMINION TERMINAL ASSCOCIATES. I AM NOT SURE WHAT THEY DO IN DETAIL AND THEIR JOB POSITIONS OR IF IT IS CSX THE ONES THAT OPRATE THE YARD, WHAT I DO KNOW IS THAT I SEE CSX COAL TRAIN IN NEWPORT NEWS VIRGINIA. PLEASE ANY INFO WILL BE GRATELY APRECIATED, THANK'S TO ALL.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 11 April 2009 Who the ---- is Judy Curtis?

Name: RETIRED E-mail: FITZGERALD Ga Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 11 April 2009 As for any coments ON judy CURTIS I would like to say that of all the people that I got to know in labor relations in Jax that she was one hell of a nice person. she was also a fair and honest person to deal or talk to. I AM SURE THAT IF SHE READS THIS POST SHE WILL KNOW WHO I am. c s x lost a fine person when she retired and would like for her to call me one day.I DID NOT ALWAYS AGREE WITH HER BUT EACH TIME I REALIZE SHE HAD A JOB TO DO.next thing someone will be saying something about Steve Watson he is still working but he is also a hell of a good person to handle problems I WAS TREATED FAIR WITH HIM ALSO. IN THE LAST 10 YEARS I worked MY EXlocal CHAIRMAN vanhorn and his companion hancock collected no claims for me I handle my own.they were to busy stealing from the young men on the extra board and got away with it.Thank you u t u for giving up my 37 days of pay.

Name: Retired Director E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 30+ years Posted: 11 April 2009 First of all I would like to start by saying... to all you assholes who want to blame payroll for screwing your checks.. Maybe you should make sure your claims are accurate and truthful, which sadly, 70% of the time they are fraudulent. In regard to the comment directed towards Fmr. Director-LR Judy Curtis... honestly you can fuck off and die. I can understand your envy of her as she is one of the most powerful people in Labor Relations and the Company in general. Im very sorry you did not have the talent or intelligence to make it to her level or make the money she does... but then again She is WAY above your league... which is why she is in the position she is in... Is there any other Directors that report directly to the SVP-HR and LR? Nope only Judy! She deserves her name to be listed at the top of her level with Pam Overbay and Sandi Cooksey right there with her. Finally, you want her kids to eat out of a dumpster... For your info.. WE are doing Wonderful and have and do anything we want! So go play in traffic and maybe you will feel better about yourself because your a nobody and Judy is a made woman, comparable to Lisa Mancini, Ellen Fitzsimmons, Alison Brown, and Susan Hamilton! THANK YOU CSX FOR THE WONDERFUL LIFE YOU HAVE PROVIDED US WITH!!!!!
Webmaster comment: There you have it, straight from Jacksonville FL. As long as management is not drawn from the ranks of anyone with a clue, it's easy to divide but not so easy to conquer when both sides shit on each other. A modern company might try to have productive dialog between the contract employees and management, but CSX would rather continue the beatings until morale improves: Nobody wins, not the employees; not management; not stockholders. I'm glad I got out alive because this place continues sinking to new depths.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 11 April 2009 HELLO, TO EVERY ONE. I WAS WONDERING IF ANY ONE CAN SHARE SOME LIGHT ON THE COAL YARD IN VIRGINIA NEWPORT NEWS, AND IF ANY ONE KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT DOMINION TERMINAL ASSCOCIATES. I AM NOT SURE WHAT THEY DO IN DETAIL AND THEIR JOB POSITIONS OR IF IT IS CSX THE ONES THAT OPRATE THE YARD, WHAT I DO KNOW IS THAT I SEE CSX COAL TRAIN IN NEWPORT NEWS VIRGINIA. PLEASE ANY INFO WILL BE GRATELY APRECIATED, THANK'S TO ALL.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 10 April 2009 does anyone have any info about when furlough men are going to be called back to hamlet

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 09 April 2009 Lloyd CSX can make a profit while certian areas of the railroad are in a slump. Export coal right now is a big profit as is grain shipments. I work in Virginia. We've seen the slow times with export coal it lasted from 1997-2007. Coal has always had a good run of about 10-15 years then it slacks off to just local power plants. The problem is over hiring which all the railroads have done. If someone can't handle furloughs then it's go get another job. No one is forcing them to stay. Sorry, we had to endure furloughs in the begining it's not a concern to me that others have to endure it also. It might be the 21st century but somethings never change. Retirements will happen over the next 5 years alot of us will be gone. Till then it's a waiting game. That's part of working for the railroad. I'm not going to get into this issue of those who paid extortion money to get a job out here compared to those who just hire off the street. That's none of my concern.

Name: Lloyd E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 09 April 2009 I'm guessing you either work out of Russell, Hinton, or around the Charleston WV area then right? As far as I knew, up until a short while ago they still had men furloughed on the Russell Sub but that may have changed now. I completely agree that furloughs are going to happen. The problem I have is why does a CEO still get millions in the meantime? It isn't just railroads that do this but a lot of big corporations. Greed is truly an evil thing. Oh btw, I'm pretty certain CSX isn't offering any kind of transfers right now because they are trying to do 1000's men work with 500 men. I'm sorry but you can't really justify what this company is doing right now. On top of it all, hundreds of these guys who are furloughed paid money just to get on with this company only to see guys go through it now who get paid while training!! Gotta be pretty bad sitting at the house laid off with a bill in the mail every month for that school loan. One day, karma is going to catch up with this company big time and I cant wait till it does.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 09 April 2009 One other fact. The unions gave up the right to any say so over the numbers of people on the extra boards when gaurentees came about. CSX has complete control over the number of slots. Why not get rid of gaurentees? Then the boards could be overloaded without any cost to CSX except in benefits. CSX would still furlough not wanting to pay for the benefits. No easy answers. A line no one wants to hear but it's the truth "furloughs are just paying your dues". Furloughs will always be around unless the unions and CSX agree to a contract like the IC/CN where those working at the time of implementation of the contract are safe and can never be furloughed. With such a contract there would be no distinction between road and yard. For 12 hours you are subject to any type of work: go switch out tracks in the yard, go dump some ballast on a work train, then take a road train all this can be done within a 12 hour day. Sure they make good money, but I see the loss of jobs in the long run. A few making a lot while others can't get hired. Sporatic hiring only in the event of retirements.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 09 April 2009 Lloyd I've been out here enough years to undestand the ways of the railroad. I use to get furloughed every year in Walbridge in the late '70s when I hired out because 35% of the business was coal an iron ore. When Lake Erie froze during winter with no ships coming in it was expected that we would get furloughed being the lowest in seniority. If I would of stayed up there instead of transferring in 1980 it would of been up to 12 years of winter furloughs on the former C&O Hocking Valley. Where I have worked out of the past 29 years everyone is working to the max seeing 95% of our business is coal no one is furloughed. Due to over hiring they did have to let go about 25 trainees a few months ago which was definitely unfortunate. Some people griped over having to drive to other locations to work, but at least they had a job. No railroad can afford to let people linger on a extra board drawing gaurentee without justification. It just doesn't work that way never has not in my 32 years. Even though those still marked up are working everytime their rested an even running up seems wrong it's a matter of putting jobs back on before those furloughed can be called back. You need empty slots to fill. More than likely the averages are set to high they always have been. Go to a union meeting and try to lower the averages for the freight pools. I bet you'll have a revolt from those working. Because one thing that has been forever rampant on the railroad is greed.

Name: Lloyd E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 09 April 2009 Loco +30 I do know very well that Michael Ward was the low man on the pole when it comes to CEO's salary with the major railroads. I'm not really sure if you have the facts right when it comes to the number of furloughs with the other railroads..I'd have to see some actual statistics to believe that. If you can't see why I have a problem with a CEO making over 7 million plus while men are on the street then maybe thats the problem with most Americans today. Is it really okay to still give Michael Ward that kind of money or any CEO for that matter while men are laid off? The answer is most certainly NO!!! I'm not trying to insinuate that you are on his side by any means but wake up man. No CEO of any company deserves this kind of compensation while their own employees are out of work. It sure would be tough to just live on ONE million dollars instead of SEVEN. Fuck you WARD.

Name: me too E-mail: Employed as: Yard Master, for 20-30 years Posted: 09 April 2009 Yea and the people who voted for RAYGUN were also called RAYGANITES, a bunch of assholes is what we called them, Hard to believe union working people voted for that asswipe, guess they must have loved it when RAYGUN stuck his big prong up thier assholes, Yea man thank you RONNIE RAYGUN for de-regulation, We all now see how wrong that was........

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 1-10 years Posted: 09 April 2009 Barak: I was constipated. But after reading your post, I have now taken a huge dump and feel much better. Please let me know which staffer to send the dump to so you can have some more material to talk about.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 08 April 2009 Lloyd I don't find it to be political. I've spelled it Raygun since the '70s. I don't see the pattern between Wards compensation and those furloughed. Look at what other CEO's at UP, NS, and BNSF made last year. Ward was low man on the totem pole. The UP & BNSF has more people furloughed than CSX. It's a matter of business the coal regions are booming while areas that service the auto industry and manufacturers are in a slump. CSX did make a profit dispite the economy downturn.

Name: Barak E-mail: Presidentt@WhiteHous.com Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for Less than 1 year Posted: 08 April 2009 Good evening my fellow American Railroad Union Members, First, let me say that - to the people of our great nation - that our railroad unions are the backbone of our country's national economic engine. We owe you a debt of gratitude to you good men and women, that can only be fully repaid with deepest respect and our greatest admiration. I know the hardships you are enduring - the furloughs, layoffs and injuries - and so I would like to take a moment to set the record straight on my administration's policy of fairness and equality to the American taxpayer - and that includes, most of all, you the American Railroad Union Worker. My concern is that the truth be known about the AIG bonus payments. While the bonus payments to AIG were regrettable, my administration has worked diligently to recover those payments, and we have made great progress in that regard. I am happy to announce to you that today, we have recovered 99% of the AIG bonuse payments and have terminated the employment of all AIG individuals whose blind greed led them down the road to an act that was not only an affront to the taxpayers of our great nation, but was at best grotesquely un-American during a time of national economic crisis. I understand your anger and frustrations. In time, our economy will improve, and we will begine anew to forge a stronger economic system that is not subject to the financial gyrations of past administrations. WE will be a new nation, built on hope and trust, and respect for our fellow human being. Yes we can. Thank you and God Bless. -Barak

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 08 April 2009 I have to go take a Terry Turner (a.k.a- Bowel Movement) I will be right back. Then I will wipe my butt cheeks with my CSX approved, Matt Sanders toilet paper (he likes to kiss ass anyway)

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year Posted: 08 April 2009 Sorry "to wildman". That was meant for the "skipper" about the "but fuked" thing. And hey skipper, work on your ebonix. It needs help!!! Jesus, and Jessie Jackson wanted to legalize it!!LOL Speaking of which skipper, you would make a great professor for him!!!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for Less than 1 year Posted: 08 April 2009 to wildman, A whole lot of "but fuking" being explained in your post below. You must be Matt Stamper or Sanders in real life!!!

Name: Lloyd E-mail: Employed as: Brakeman, for 1-10 years Posted: 08 April 2009 Yeah I know Eng plus 30. After I re-read his post I realized he wasn't as dumb as I thought when it came to spelling (like 70 percent of the people on here are) and realized it was used as sarcasm. Regardless though, this isn't really a site that should be used for political beliefs but rather a site to share all your shitty experiences from CSX. Whether you like Obama and hate republicans or hate him and love Rush Limbaugh I really don't care. Its really more about why a CEO thinks its okay to get over 7 million in compensation why hundreds of men and women are out on the street struggling to make ends meet. There really is no excuse.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 07 April 2009 Lloyd, The spelling of "Reagan" as "Raygun" goes back to the '60s & '70s when he was a conservative nazi running the state of California. He didn't mind using force against college students who were protesting against the war in Vietnam. The term Raygun was a line in a song "Drug Store Truck Driving Man" "putting your Raygun to my head". So, the other poster was not mis-spelling "Reagan" he spelled it correctly with "Raygun".

Name: Karen Conway-Stiff E-mail: karenlynn_conway@yahoo.com Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 07 April 2009 My Son Patrick Stiff was trying to get one of his STUPID AQUAINENCES off the tarcks in Valparaios Indiana, 6/23/2007. His friends and there families were visited at thier homes by CSX big wigs. They were informed that even though "PUG" was not on the tracks that a vaccuum effect is formed which sucks Humans into the tracks while a train is moving. Later this idea was put to0 the test on MYTH BUSTERS, T.V and proven to be rediculous and immpossiable. It makes me sick to know that people are pumped with crazy information during the worst experiences of their lives and we have no recourse to represent us. I, his Mother was never contacted, only drunken strange bystanders and two boys who lied thier ways out of what they never even witnessed. The boy on the tracks is a cocaine attic and the othe was so far ahead of the incident he admitted he never saw a thing. He was however versed with a story by CSX to this vaccuum effect story. By the way the Engineer was letting a trainee man the train while moving through a city without ever sounding a whistle, and even though they "thought" they hit something they never tried to stop and were called to do so after 9 miles away. You are just heartless people. I have spent my entire life trying to heal people in hospitals and have seen many people brought to the ER from train incidents. I was also informed that the trainee was actually on a track never used which he changed to in error. My horror lives on and you sleep tight every night. I have a few friends who are engineers and have actually explained to me that this is exceptable behavior seen all the time when trainees are learning. God Help you. You are Murderers.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 1-10 years Posted: 07 April 2009 Skipper Post his name on this site. Did you tape record the interview?

Name: Buck Nasty E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year Posted: 05 April 2009 Bend over and grab your ankles Selkirk...rumor is that junior is coming back to town!

Name: Sammy E-mail: Employed as: Car repair, for 20-30 years Posted: 05 April 2009 M of W for 30 years. You forgot one: CSX CORPORATION: you hire 400 guys to run a unit train with 1,000 cows from Chicago to Atlanta via Indianapolis. You furlough 399 of the new hires in Indy, derail the train in the Smokies, and kill all 1,000 cows including the new hire engineer who dies of a stress related heart attack at the throttle. You deny all claims, charge the customer an additional 250% fuel surcharge, blame the derailment on a rule violation, and give Mike Ward a $10 million stock bonus.

Name: railhead E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years Posted: 04 April 2009 I was wondering if csx ever put those time study goons out with the train crews in the yards, When it was still conrail they did it 1 time a year, I really enjoyed jacking thier wires off all of the crews would jack thier wires, I still can not figure why a company would spend thousands of dollars for things they already knew, Only thing i can figure it was something to write off on taxes at the end of the year, Those time study people did not know jack shit about operating rules. We worked by the book when they were around and always turned a 4 hr job into a 12 hr job with a recrew needed.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: M of W, for 30+ years Posted: 04 April 2009 SOCIALISM: You have 2 cows and you give one to your neighbor. COMMUNISM: You have 2 cows; the Government takes both and gives you some milk. FASCISM: You have 2 cows; the Government takes both and sells you some milk. NAZISM: You have 2 cows. The Government takes both and shoots you. BUREAUCRATISM: You have 2 cows; the Government takes both, shoots one, milks the other and throws the milk away... TRADITIONAL CAPITALISM: You have two cows. You sell one and buy a bull. Your herd multiplies, and the economy grows. You sell them and retire on the income. A FRENCH CORPORATION: You have two cows. You go on strike because you want three cows. A JAPANESE CORPORATION: You have two cows. You redesign them so they are one-tenth the size of an ordinary cow and produce twenty times the milk. You then create a clever cow cartoon image called Cowkimon and market them World-Wide. A GERMAN CORPORATION: You have two cows. You reengineer them so they live for 100 years, eat once a month, and milk themselves. AN ITALIAN CORPORATION: You have two cows, but you don't know where they are. You break for lunch. A RUSSIAN CORPORATION: You have two cows. You count them and learn you have five cows. You count them again and learn you have 42 cows. You count them again and learn you have 2 cows. You stop counting cows and open another bottle of vodka. A SWISS CORPORATION: You have 5000 cows, none of which belong to you. You charge others for storing them. A CHINESE CORPORATION: You have two cows. You have 300 people milking them. You claim full employment, high bovine productivity, and arrest the newsman who reported the numbers. AN INDIAN CORPORATION: You have two cows. You worship them. AND FINALLY: AN AMERICAN CORPORATION: You have two cows. You sell one, and force the other to produce the milk of four cows. Later, you hire a consultant to analyze why the cow dropped dead. SOUND FAMILIAR????

Name: Tank E-mail: Employed as: Engine repair, for 30+ years Posted: 04 April 2009 CSX STock buyer at $29+. Duh, boy are you smart. Horn Dog Mike loves you. You one of them pretty boys who bends over fer his boss?

Name: RETIRE E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 1-10 years Posted: 04 April 2009 I have a question for all the old heads still working for free. Why does a man work for 75,000yr and can sit at home for 60,000yr? Let's do the math that's working for 15,000yr @75 hours a week.HUUUMMMM!!!!Don't you think it's time to RETIRE, now who's keeping men cut off.

Name: to wildman E-mail: Employed as: Engine repair, for 20-30 years Posted: 03 April 2009 You are a dumbass wildman, Be you forget, it was clinton who had a republican majorty in both houses,IE the gingrich gang, and your boy ronnie regan is the one who fucked everything up with de-regulation, all that did was make the greedy ceo,s more greedy,And now we know the end results, Just ask any air traffic controler what they think of reagan, ha ha you might get a sock of 5, or dont you remember how reagan fucked all them over and how reagan taxed rr unemployment,,, I would bet most ceo,s are die hard republicans, DO you play golf with them at the elite country clubs??? Thats the problem guys like you,,, You vote with emotion not brains or forethought, hier gobbles would have loved you........

Name: E-mail: Employed as: CSX Customer, for N/A Posted: 03 April 2009 WELL MR. STOCK PICKER IT TOOK TWO DAYS LONGER FOR C S X TO GET BACK TO $29.00 MORE THAN I THOUGHT IT WOOD.CLOSEd AT $29.15 today.IT FINALY GOT BACK WHERE I GOT BACK IN AT.

Name: Skipper E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 03 April 2009 Pervert, I know who you are. you aint no union worker. You are that manager guy that intervewed me for job on yesterday. i can tell its you. you writ like you talk. you are Pervert. remember you was in interview room wit me. door shut. you said CSX was a "great company". explained the filing job. then you tell me i want a butt fucking. you say, "now or after the medical". Remember? I thought i was not hearing right. i kinda laffed an said, "butt-fucked?? did you all say "butt-fucked?!?". see i thought you was joking. you was serious. you said, "you need a hearing test. When you want yuor butt fucking boy, now or later. I gonna have to butt fuck you before i can hire you". i stay calm, you sound like crazy person. i stil try be nice an told you i dont want no butt fucking. just the job is all. you says all men is 'basically queers', and you was doing what come natural to guys like me. you said you butt fucked all the new hires. thats wat you says. i seen lots of workers out there. all them you butt fucked? good lord. unbelivable. you says, "today you be gettin butt fucked. this for your own good. you get use to it. i never heard of no such requirment nowhere. bastard. an you said " well, i wiould not butt fuck you every day. No. i got others to butt fuck, not just you. i want out of the room but the door locked. i turn aroun an you had droped the pants and was sposed. you crazy pervert person. i kicked door down and ran out the building real fast. dont nobody want to work for no one an be butt fucked. are you people crazy?

Name: Wildman E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 02 April 2009 STRIKE ????? BLUE FLU ????? I'm on board! I'll see what I can get started. Now about Obama. Where does it stop when he "fires" a company's CEO? What happens when the government tells companies they can't give bonuses? The bonuses are aggravating but they are a small part of the overall BILLIONS involved. Again,they are helping the stupid out of the hole they dug themselves into.Who in their right mind would loan money to people without the means to repay the loan? Who in their right mind would even ASK for a loan they couldn't repay??? This all started with the Clinton administration.They figured banks were holding back money from deserving "poor" people who didn't have a house to live in. LET THE FLAMING BEGIN!!!!

Name: Lloyd E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 02 April 2009 Wow BS your intelligence just shines through when you spell Reagan's last name Raygun!! What the hell? There are a select minority in this country who would love nothing more than to see Obama fail but the majority of us don't feel like this. I personally think he is going to make a lot of promises he wont be able to hold up to but Id really like to see him make some great changes. CSX Blow I am all for advocating a strike any time any day. The problem is though our union guys are too scared they are going to lose their jobs and get possible jail time so they will tuck their tail and run every time. I've already tried to push for an early May blue flu but there aren't enough men with sacks anymore to be honest. They are all too worried about getting fired and in a way you can't blame them, but if our unions aren't doing much for us..then I say its high time we did something for ourselves. Oh and one more thing, I'm never one for promoting this company but if this company is racist, its also ethical. Yeah neither of which is true. I've seen plenty of black people in higher positions and if you think they wouldn't fire a white man just as fast or faster than a black man or a woman for the same offense you must be living on another planet. Wake up idiot.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 1-10 years Posted: 02 April 2009 With dispatchers with this level of intelligence, it's no wonder the system is so screwed up. Please explain in great detail how 50% black makes you "black". I guess a block that is "half occupied" is "empty". The game just started for your hero, so wait and see dumbass.

Name: BS E-mail: Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 20-30 years Posted: 01 April 2009 I can not believe all the OBAMA haters on this site mainly because he is black, Hey the guy won in a landslide victory, it was not even close and he is pro union, macanie hated railroads he even said it and he hated unions too, fuckin repubs they all think the same way, all for me and to hell with you, i will bet some of you asswipes on this site would have voted for RAYGUN if they had dug him up and put his corpse on the repub ticket, If you all think these republicans are so great then i suggest you quit the rr and go and work at wallmart or for a short line scab non union rr, that would make all of you wake up and fell the prong in your assholes, then lets hear you cry about OBAMA, you raciest bastards, wolves in white sheets with dunce hats.

Name: TODD E-mail: Employed as: Engine repair, for 10-20 years Posted: 01 April 2009 Hey i have the answer to all the labor problems that rr,s bitch about... Let them find a labratory that will build androids to replace all of us, I bet they would really love that no matter what the cost.

Name: Philipe Quann E-mail: Ilovechocos@yahoo.com Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 31 March 2009 "Looks like Obama is pickin up the Economy pretty fast. CSX just called back 10 guys on the Baltimore Division. HOORAY!! There is light at the end of the tunnel!!" Hell, they never called me back. I guess I need to start eating chicken and watermelon and get some dreadlocks!! Who knows, I might get a call. Either that or date mexicans and start walking around the yards to see what I can't make remote control. Oh yeah, and drive a blue puerto rican car!!! But I need to go at this time. Jason Brandt's hemroid is acting up so I need to go wipe some cream on it for him. Stay safe, The only red head idiot in baltimore

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 20-30 years Posted: 30 March 2009 IF YOU LIKE TO SET FIRE TO YOUR MONEY, buy CSX stock.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: CSX Customer, for N/A Posted: 30 March 2009 BY THE END OF March C S X stock should be back up to $29.00 thanks to the stockpicker and CRAMER WHO SAID TO SELL, SELL.TWO DAYS AWAY.

Name: Bingo E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 29 March 2009 My Railroad - you hit the nail on the head. To the Mike Wards of the railroad industry, its all about chopping labor - regardless of economic conditions. Chop Chop Chop. Whack Whack Whack. Cut Cut Cut. When Railroads began, all they could say was "give us your husbands, your sons, and your daughters". Now that our families made them rich, they thank us by abolishing our jobs. U.S. Railroads have cut over 100,000 employees in the last 10 years alone. They won't be happy until they are rid of us all. Well, Mr. Hot Shot RailRoad Executive, every dog has his day. Railroads are dinosaurs because they are managed by dinosaurs. Railroads are nothing more than a pair steel toothpicks held together by nails, boards and rock. They put a box or a tank on top of a pair of training wheels, drop them on the toothpicks, and away they go. Railroads are one step removed from the camel and the donkey. Transportation technology has not evolved from its basic format - and that is the primary fault of railroad management. Railroad barons rode this gravy dinosaur train for centuries. Once the world figures out how to move freight in new and innovative ways, railraod management - along with their toothpicks and training wheels - will be a forgetable footnote in history. Every dog has his day, Mr. Ward.

Name: my railroad E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years Posted: 27 March 2009 Lets all of us get real.... The railroads will never be happy untill they can get rid of all human workers as it has always been the labor force that is a burden to any big company, its the thorn in thier side, it always was and always will be, All of us know that a railroad will spend millions of dollars to get rid of a 100 dollar a day job, we seen it with the crew consists from a 5 man crew to a 2 man crew and they are still not happy. If any of you recall all the money they spent just to get rid of maned interlocking towers which worked just fine, now with central dispatch centers the whole plant gets fucked up,,, This is just one example, All i know is when i hired on it was the same as today, jobs were always being abolished, closing of yards, the whole workes....

Name: Lloyd E-mail: Employed as: Car repair, for 1-10 years Posted: 25 March 2009 Yeah but you know business is real slow and ole Mikey has to make the cuts to keep up those fancy stays, clothes, flights, and probably money for hookers. Just another example of what is wrong with our society today. Guess it would be too much for him to stay at a first class hotel or fly first class on delta. Thanks for the link though, it really helps me understand why so many men are on the street right now.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 25 March 2009 Hey, looky what Ward made last year: http://www.wtop.com/?nid=111&sid=1632231

Name: WhiteManSpeak With Fork Tongue E-mail: Employed as: Car repair, for 30+ years Posted: 24 March 2009 to the last post and to Brandon: Tehnology and job losses. Big Brother axed millions of older baby boomers. All are unemployed, no hope for a job. 401k plans are worthless. Most are too old to get work, too young to collect social security. Government and business have it all figgered out - sheppard them into old age housing reservations somewhere in North Dakota. Give them some wood to whittle, jerkey to eat, and an old Tv in the game room. Come winter, turn off the heat.....

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 22 March 2009 To brandon. You think TRAINS is bad, pick up an issue of RAILWAY AGE! All they ever talk about is technical advancements that will eventually get rid of all of us. From positive train control, to remote control, new age dispatching. The list goes on. I call it BAD NEWS AGE! Automation is going to, in the very near future, eliminate more jobs than the population can tolerate. The baby boomers are retiring but in many cases taking their jobs with them. Look at freight. As the pre 85ers are retiring you lose your jobs to remote control and crew consist rules. I believe the population is 300 million plus in America right now. That number continues to rise while the job availability goes down. It will be a political issue as big companies and their scumbag executives continuously strive to "streamline" operations or seek to improve "production". I left CSX a couple years ago for Amtrak due to the oncoming remote control nuclear winter I knew was approaching. I honestly worry if any of us will have railroad jobs in the next 20 yrs.

Name: retired E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 20 March 2009 To wildman, you left a lot out this was your best post.when I hired out you was required to get up and down on moving equipment. I agree that you should not get up at above five or six miles an hour however at a safe speed with a cut of cars it is a lot safer to start your move and catch up or drop off just before the slack runs in or out and jerks you around or off a cut.as for using this dam no good brake stick is the r.r.should put all<ALL> hand brakes on side of all<ALL>cars about shoulder high this would help out a whole lot and do away with brake sticks also less injury wheel type brakes.for allmost ever safety rule out today is like you said not to protect you but in case of injury to help the r.r. in case of law suit.with the r.r. today almost everyone is looking for a way out when they get hurt and I donot blame them sue the hell out of them..The r.r. is still a good job just bad management to work under maybe it will change back to some of the old days and get better. the people working has got to get together and work as a team not against each other like the unions B L E and U T U is doing today this is what the r.r. likes one against the other.

Name: Joe E-mail: ChemicalAlley@CSX.com Employed as: CSX Contractor, for N/A Posted: 20 March 2009 Something to think about the next time you hear that CSX train whistle wailing around the bend: Derailments occur at a frequency that is more than disquieting, especially given the nature of many hazardous and toxic chemicals that are transported via CSX trains. One of the more serious train derailments in the U.S. occurred back on July 22, 1989 when a CSX train with tanker cars containing styrene, acrylonitrile, chlorine, styrene monomer, inhibited methylcholorosilanes, acrylic acid, petroleum naphtha, paraformaldehyde, and ethyl chloride went off the tracks in Freeland. 4,000 people were injured, and another 30,000 were in some way adversely affected. In the aftermath of that derailment, the biggest concern among safety experts existed not with the individual chemicals transported so much as what could happen with the synergistic effect if the compounds interacted with each other in combination within a major metropolitan area - a deadly exploding toxic chemical super-bomb rendering 100 square miles of densely populated areas un-inhabitable - which would be the equivilent of displacing the entire population of the city of Chicago and its surrounding suburbs. CSX and other railroads "attempted" to remove these super dangerous cars from their 'regular cargo'. They wanted a 'flagout' - the use of a special 30mph train and buffer cars around the chemical car, along with special routing around populated areas - in addition to sky high rates. The ICC denied the request by the rail companies to charge high rates for flagouts, in effect "forcing" railroads into business as usual. Even Washington D.C. can't get the railroads to change. In the 20 years since the Freeland disaster, the situation still has not changed. A medium size chlorine car is about 48 tons - large ones averages 90 tons. The full release of a chlorine tank car could leave a 40-mile toxic plume over any major city. It's no laughing matter. Back in 1979 a chlorine car was involved in a derailment in Ontario and 250,000 people were evacuated. And, lest we forget - the $500 million dollar jury verdict imposed on CSX for a massive chemical spill that injured thousands in the southern U.S. There is nothing more essential for emergency planning than to know what the railroad company knows about the worst case scenario they can pose in your community. You should demand to know what the worst case scenarios are for all chemicals transported in your community, and if your local Emergency Planning Commission has not obtained these documents they are yellow wimps. They are not doing their job and are covering up the dangers in your community. The fact that accidents are likely to happen during a workday pose a serious problem for emergency evacuation - and our communities are ill-equipped and scarcely prepared to handle such a crisis. Are there answers and solutions? Of course. But not if we leave it up to the railroads. Write your Congressman today and express your concerns - demand action! Let's not wait for another derailment disaster.

Name: Wildman E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 20 March 2009 Eccessive rulemaking is what's killing CSX! Everytime there's any injury or mishap,the legal dept. gets busy and makes a new operating rule. Switch forms,no static drops,no running switches,announce every time a main track switch is lined,don't operate a ground air valve with your foot,three step protection,safety stops,stopping in the clear at all switches,lining both ends of crossovers before fouling the crossover,and reporting "in the clear of all tracks" before moving an engine is crazy. We used to switch more cars in the first cut than we get done in an entire shift nowadays. Safer? Maybe? But somehow they still get killed in spite of the rules in place to "protect" him. I think the rules are there to limit the liability to the company myself.A real railroad man would laugh at all the crap they have in a rule book these days but the powers that be still come up with new ones every day. All of this stuff is fine if it saves a life but I don't know how many times I've seen someone say they were "in the clear of all tracks" and step over onto an adjacent track and stand there while the move was completed,and NO there was no chance the track was going to be used,but that was the reason for the rule.I know I spend at least an hour per day on the radio repeating back useless instructions to the same person who just gave them to me. I wonder how long it will be before it will be forbidden to go outside the yard office.(not very,if they remote switches too)

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 1-10 years Posted: 20 March 2009 I am glad to see this site back up and running. I have been away from the CXS for 4 years now. I used to love railroading and although a transportation supt I had many friends in the rank and file. never was I so disapointed in a company when I came from Conrail to the CSX. we were truly excited as conrail managers when we thought it was going to be a merger. however, deals made behind closed doors did not permit that to happen. I pray every night to God for David Levan(Conrail CEO)for taking care of the conrail managers knowing we would not be liked or appreciated by either the CSX or the NW. Thanks to him I was able to retire early due to my disdane for the CSX with almost 300K. now to sum up the CSX,it was like I came to work the day after the takeover and slipped back 20 years. I had over 25 years of Experience in Transportation,Mechanical(Locomotive & car dept)& Intermodal. I worked in Hump yards,switch yards & the largest Intermodal yard in the US.however it was plain to see that although us Conrail guys were far more talented in operating a railroad, we were never going to make it to the end of our careers. I miss all the people I worked with both conrail & CSX guys.the csx guys on the ground treated Me very well. they liked working smart. I wish all you well. The CSX could have been a great company. their is much more I'd like to say,however, My advice to the rank & file is DO Your Job & don't trust the redneck CSX.

Name: Buffalo Bill E-mail: Employed as: Yard Master, for 20-30 years Posted: 19 March 2009 THis is why we have a site called "CSX SUCKS" - ANOTHER CORPORATE BAILOUT BILL..... Bills in Legislature Would Give CSX Free Ride on Liability Published: Sunday, March 8, 2009 at 12:01 a.m. Last Modified: Saturday, March 7, 2009 at 11:05 p.m. Joe Follick, in a Ledger article Feb. 19, was a bit misleading about the transfer of liability for accidents in the proposed Central Florida Commuter Rail Corridor to state taxpayers. Mr. Follick wrote that "The only thing lawmakers need to approve to complete the deal is a proposal that would make the company and the state responsible for their own equipment, employees and passengers in a crash, regardless of who might be at fault." Actually the Proposed Committee Bill 901 before the House and Senate Bill 1212 require to "forever protect, defend and indemnify and hold harmless" CSX, even for CSX's negligent, willful and wanton conduct. The no-fault principal really means that Florida taxpayers will be responsible for paying the bill in several scenarios even if CSX "or any other person or persons whomsoever" is completely at fault and even if CSX's conduct is so reckless that it results in punitive damages. High jury verdicts, including punitive damages against CSX, are not unusual. A jury in New Orleans awarded damages of $3.37 billion, including $2.5 billion in punitive damages, against CSX in relation to a chemical-car fire. A Florida jury imposed a $50 million punitive damage award against CSX for misconduct for the derailment and crash of an Amtrak train traveling on CSX track. Florida Judge Arthur J. Franza, in upholding the jury's punitive damage verdict, called CSX actions that led to the Amtrak accident "BORDERLINE CRIMINAL." He also noted that, with respect to CSX, "The consequences of carelessness and greed resulted in death, the ultimate violation." If Senate Bill 1212 becomes law and a similar accident occurs in the Commuter Rail Corridor, all damages will be paid by the state, not CSX. The CSX bailout bill represents a huge government shield for corporate wrongdoing and causes the Florida taxpayer to foot the bill for the lax safety standards for America's biggest railroad companies even when they are at fault. JOHN W. FROST II Lawyer Bartow

Name: Why Try E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 19 March 2009 Sorry for posting on every board, but I was just trying to prove a point. You know that you yourself has to get tired of the whining and complaining. I just wish that everyone would band together as I said and just look at the current events that are changing everyone's lives including our children's. Some older people have given up so much and I truly beleive that they do not look at the everlasting effect that it has on years to come. Anyways I'm glad to see that some people still have jobs. I hope to get back to work very soon.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 19 March 2009 to the new person WHY TRY please you do not have to post but on one section.we have enough dummmies already posting on all of them.no one likes to read the same thing over and over again.this goes for all the other people that thinks you have to post on all please don'T

Name: Ster2Block E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 18 March 2009 Originally Posted by Ster2Block In my B&O agreement book it reads that any employee with less than 3 years seniority and furloughed 365 consecutive days will be terminated. This was the 1994 copy. An engineer I talked to say he thinks it was changed in maybe 2002 to read that your recall rights are as long as your service. Served 6 months, recallable for 6 months, etc, and you don't get lifetime recall until like 5 years. Is this true or does the B&O book 1994 one stand? Noone seems to know. The 1994 is the only "in writing" one I've seen. I Thank You for your insight into this agreement but in our area that don't mean squatt! Iam Truely dumbfound what I have seen the Carrier do to interpret the contract and squash local agreements as they see fit)They restrict seniority,cut the yard extraboard and have cutback road conductors working yard jobs and road jobs off the board now..When valid claims are put in our very own UTU JOHN HANCOCK negotiates with the carrier to pay you 40% unknown to you.If you pay a percentage of a claim,Then the claim is valid in turn should be paid 100%.The same union we are paying to .......(do not know what for anymore could not finish that sentence.Please don't let me start on THE MOST UNSAFE THING NOW IS 1 MAN RCO!!The Carrier once wrote people up for this practice and for riding a car while in control of RCL.The FRA says on their site after reviewing RCL operations for over a year ,FRA IS TAKING POSITION THAT YOU SHOULD NOT RIDE THE SIDE OF A CAR WHILE IN CONTROL OF LOCOMOTIVE!But our union and the AAR say it does not pose a safety threat.WHO IS IN CHARGE?

Name: Why Try E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 18 March 2009 You know that I'm fairly new to this site and I can tell you in my short career with the railroad that I've never heard so much whining in my life from old and young people. Everyone says that this place is so bad to work for, then why is everyone still here? It's not for your health or looks. It is for the money and insurance. Money is the American way and you all know this. You can't tell me that right know in the shape that our economy is in that you could go and start over again with your careers and make just as much money or even more some where else. The railroad is not that bad of a career. There is negatives and positives with every job out there. Some are just more noticed than others. I know that I come off being rude but I'm just telling my personal view. I'm tired off coming to this site and hearing about oldheads and lemon heads arguing everyday. Let's look at the real points at hand right now. Both unions need to come to some type of agreement with each other and help out all of there employees. Will this ever happen, probably not. A great amount of our fellow employees are furloghed right now of course including myself and none of us know if we will ever have a career again. I don't want no one's sympathy but give me a break with all the bullshit. Once again oldhead and lemonhead, should band together as one and try to prevent the company from stealing everything from us. Oh and by the way everyone also says that the union's (UTU and BLE) have something to do with all of this! They may play a small part, but wake up and smell the roses people, the economy is falling to shambles. If 10 million people are unemployed and car makers are shut down, steel factories slow, and most of the commodity's that we haul are laying off and closing up shop then we are all going to feel the trickle effect. Get all the facts together and really take a good look. I guess that the people with good senerioty and decent jobs right know that are making good money are still never happy and always bitching. I guess that 40,000.00 to 100,000.00 salary ranges for these people are not good enough. I know that the 610.00 that I get every two weeks is pretty depressing, but at least I can take care somewhat of my family. YOU ALL NEED TO GROW UP!!!!!!!!!!

Name: Wildman E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 18 March 2009 Here's an update on the 55 and out attempt. Subject: update on early retirement attached is an update as of March 16, 2009 on the signatures and states I've received petitions from: 744 signatures representing 17 States and 10 Rail labor crafts. The word is getting out and each of you are the ones that are doing it. What are some of the possible obstacles that may be in our immediate future and what are some of the questions that have been asked? I'll try to keep it short. 1. It will bankrupt Railroad Retirement. No, it won't. The proposal itself provides a way to cover the costs with at least $350 million per year. And that is not counting the $300 million per year the carriers no longer pay into railroad retirement as of the Railroad Survivorship Act of 2001. 2. It take an act of Congress. Yes indeed it does. Congress acted before and they will again. I've contacted some of our friends in Congress and the response I've gotten is that this proposal, all of it, is reasonable and addresses many of the problems they are wrestling with today. Health Care, Retiree benefits, disabled workers, widow benefits, unemployment, under employment, and veteran recognition. 3. Maybe we can get part of it like better widows benefits but probably not all of it. Each of us can probably name widows that are too young to draw benefits and we can also name our friends that are getting by on disability. This proposal, all of it, is a reasonable solution for that train of thought and it addresses the needs of rail labor. Not just some of rail labor. Your voice, your actions can make them listen. Those same voices can make everyone think twice before anyone wants to put some "spin" on it and "take this but forget that". And no, I am not saying any one person, or whomever, will attempt such action. But this will not be an easy goal to reach. It is, however, quite possible. Why? Because the voices of the rank and file of all of rail labor CAN make it happen. We've proven that in the past. Some of us have gotten older but we haven't lost our voice. It doesn't matter if I am kind of "leading the charge." You've proven that there are hundreds like me ready to keep it moving. I thank each and every one of you. And I am praying for our labor leaders to take it to their membership. Railroaders move a nation, we can move a proposal that is for the betterment of rail labor. Those aren't my words and I cut off the signature to protect the privacy of the man pursuing this for us. Now,about the BLE survey. This is common practice in our union.Since the BLE is nationwide and there are only so many GC's,there must be a way to gather all the information in one format so the contracts can be negotiated toward the real wants of the membership.This is because the only time most people attend union meetings is when they are in trouble or have claims they want processed.The alternative is to have a meeting of all the local chairmen at which they only make known the things THEY want.A survey is an across the board show of hands on the issues under negotiation. The thing that kills me is the apathy that permeates the railroad industry! We all bitch about the way things are and when it comes time to voice our opinion by survey or vote,we only return half of the ballots that were sent out.That says to the company "we really don't care! Just give us whatever you want and we'll eat it up"! Each time a contract vote is returned that only has 50% of the eligible members voting makes the next contract offer diminish in value and opportunity. So it would be a good thing if some old fart engineer pushed to have the ballots returned instead of thrown in the trash. This "old fart" just passed his thirty year seniority date and I get SIX WEEKS of vacation this year.That sixth week came from the last contract on which I voted.That gives the newbies one more week to work a yard job instead of the E-board or a pool turn.A conductor might be called back from the furlough board to fill that pool vacancy and so on and so on. Take the time to fill out the survey yourselves and get others to do the same.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 18 March 2009 If You read through the post you notice that there is alot of old head vs. lemon head bashing and vice versa. When will everyone realize that things have gotten the way they are because we have allowed it. No one stands up for each other, looks after each other, or cares about each other. In order to strengthen the unions we have to come together as one voice. Ble Utu must unite Road and yard must unite old head and lemon heads must unite. United as one we cannot be screwed, harrased, or denied claims yes the unions are weak but we can make them strong. yes some of you may lose some money or get some time out in the street but if we unite things will get better and we will all make more than we lose if we all work for the same goals.

Name: GOOBER E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 17 March 2009 Sounds like the BLE is so far removed from the membership, they need to send out surveys to find what is going on. Wonder where one would send the form. Las Vegas or South florida, or maybe to some dumb sap at the International Headquarters??? God bless America keep on sending those DUES$$$$$$$ And to TOP that catch hell from an old fart Engineer if ya don't send some stupid frigging form in. Looks like the gene pool is still without a lifeguard. GOOFY

Name: brandon E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 16 March 2009 Dont know if any of you union brothers have ever seen or read a magazine called TRIANS? I have a few copys and it seems that outfit is anti-union big time, They always praise the new short lines, ie scab railroads, many of at one time did belong to class 1 roads, they have these interviews with the short line workers and the workers always say they are satisfied even though they went from 20 dollars a hr to 8 dollars a hr with no ot, I think that is the biggest lie i ever heard, The TRIANS MAG always seems to blame the downfall on railroads to the full crew consist and what they call ancient work rules, Same old story its always the fault of us union men for any company going belly up, Hell lets bring back slavery as the CEO,S & stockholders on wall st would love that i am sure. fuckin greedy dogs.....

Name: Wildman E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 15 March 2009 The BLE has a survey for members to make known their issues that can be under negotiation in the next contract. If you're a BLE member you need to fill out this survey if for no other reason than to show some support for your union.I know only about half the members voted in the last contract election so it's time we send a message to the company AND the GC's that we are interested this time. In other words,"you ain't got a hair on your as if you don't fill out this survey"! The same for when it comes time to vote on the next contract!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 14 March 2009 My question is simply this. Why are fellow brothers and sisters talking bad about one another on this site (oldhead or lemon head, BLE/UTU) and not about the company?? The company started all of this (let alone trader union reps FROM BOTH BLE & UTU who gambled a couple of golf/poker games). Get mad at them. I say send the SOB's to jail!!! STRIKE!!! Let them suffer for once. Seriousley, that is the only way to get attention. It has for every other union (which, when they do strike, get what they want). HHHEEELLLOO?????? It isn't like your union reps are doing a whole lot (considering why this site exists). Put your union dues where it belongs or to who deserves it (still to be determined).

Name: Wildman E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 14 March 2009 100% rules compliance!!! We've been assaulted by officers charging employees with small "violations" that resulted in large penalties! Come on, let's ALL give up the early quits and easy days so they can have the compliance they want. The local TM is just about out of his mind over this,the DM is on his ass and maybe even higher up than that.He's been in a real bad mood the last few weeks. General Motors raide holy hell several years ago because the switching moves slowed down and CSX caved! We can do it again!!!

Name: The Song Remains the Same E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years Posted: 13 March 2009 Look out major hump yards on the CSX system, you may be next. In the coming weeks, the company is following through with another great idea from the ivory tower. That's right. In Selkirk, the hump panel conductor's job duties are being abolished and being reassigned to...the hump yardmaster! Several years ago, they upgraded the hump computer system and tore down the retarder tower. The computer handled a portion of the retarder operator's duties, while the rest of the work was reassigned to the hump panel conductor. Now this job is being eliminated. Let's see. Job duties that have been performed by trainmen for decades are now being given to a yardmaster. Sounds like crossing crafts, doesn't it? Will this be a strikeable offense? Stay tuned. This company couldn't run a Lionel Train set around a Christmas Tree.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 12 March 2009 Will you quit bitching about us bitching?

Name: THE BIG C E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years Posted: 12 March 2009 Why don,t you dudes stop the bitching,Oh yes the bitching when i hired on thats all i heard guys bitching about everything and i bitched many times too, its the nature of a railroader to bitch, name me one who has not had a bitch about something and i will give him my pension checks, this bitching happens on all class 1 roads and probably on the scab short lines too, Railroad= bitching, there is no way around it, Its the nature of the job, but hey the money is still good no matter what craft we are in,, I would like to see how many would really bitch if they had to work at a fast food place, Lots of those places will not even hire a laed off railroader because they know they will get called back to the rr and they will run back to the rr like a cheeta.

Name: Goober E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 06 March 2009 Boys and Girls it is not CSX, it is the Economy that sucks. Those that are still running and riding keep a close lookout for stored freight cars. The railroads are shoving them everywhere, trying to find a place to put them. When these cars start moving, you youngins with no idea of how the RR works will get a call to come on over and move a few. There are thousands of cars stored as we speak, many have been there for a while rusting to the rail. City fathers are wanting them moved because they are tired of looking at them. Well that ain't gonna work for a while anyway. Looks like our new president is fixing all of the problems from old George Bush, enjoy. GOOFY

Name: Jimbo1 E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 06 March 2009 You know what? You guys are losers. CSX is awesome, and I think that you are losers if you are going to criticize such an awesome railroad company. If you are going to make fun of any railroad, you should make fun of Union Pacific, because UP sucks. Don't be saying crap about CSX you losers. Say it about UP.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 06 March 2009 CSX 21.81 -1.71

Name: E-mail: Employed as: CSX Customer, for N/A Posted: 03 March 2009 c s x stock 3-2-1999 closed $19.21, on 0302-2000 closed $11.00,0N 0316-2001 CLOSE $13.99 ON SEPT 31,2005 CLOSE $22.90. OFCOURSE THE STOCK HAS SPLIT.TODAYS C S X LOWEST SINCE SEPT. 2005

Name: E-mail: Employed as: CSX Customer, for N/A Posted: 03 March 2009 remember the sky is not falling but C S X STOCK PRICE SURE IS. REMEMBER WHEN IT WAS $60.00-$45.00THEN $35.00 I FELT LIKE IT WAS TIME TO TAKE SOME OFF THE TABLE.JUST TOO BAD I GOT BACK IN AT $29.00. THE STOCK IS LIKE THE PEOPLE REPRESENTING YOU THE BLE AND UTU JUST NO GOOD.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 03 March 2009 CSX 22.79 -1.89

Name: Sick of it all E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years Posted: 03 March 2009 After being away from train and engine service for the last few years, I cannot believe what I have returned to. Senior engineers, many close to retirement, forced out onto the road to continue working. Employees with under three years holding regular yard jobs. Guys set back to train service who have been engineers for the last 6 or 8 years. Both unions bashing each other over the remotes and jobs that were cut or eliminated. WTF!!! It is surreal. At this point I have no interest in working the road. It is a moot point getting requalified as an engineer as Id be set back immediately. I am not qualified on any of the yard jobs as a conductor as they are all remote, and I am not sure that I want to get qualified. Seems to me that both unions got screwed royally over the whole thing. The BLE lost a ton of jobs and the only thing the UTU has to show for it is a measly 46 minutes of straight time in return for doing the work of two people. Surely both unions could have negotiated something better than this? Cmon! The ability to bid back-and-forth between train and engine service? Some sort of compensation for engineers for the elimination of their jobs in yard service? Or compensation for a further reduced quality-of-life because of regularly assigned jobs lost forever. Certainly someone could have argued this! Some sort of compensation or reduced-crew penalty/lonesome pay (other than the 46 minutes) for conductors now doing the work of two. And look at all the people we have furloughed now. Who on earth thought this was a good idea!!!??? What union official(s) allowed this to happen? Both the BLE and UTU dropped the ball on this one. You screwed us both, UTU/BLE - conductors and engineers alike, pre-85 and post-85. Thanks for nothing.

Name: Wildman E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 02 March 2009 I agree that it's near impossible to get employees to stick together.It's the nature of the beast though.We talk a big fight while we're together on an engine for hour after hour but as soon as we get home it's every man for himself again.I've worked in manufacturing plants where we were all together all day long and the unity was kinda' enforced by our co-workers. This is also because of some of the "pricks" we have to work with.They don't care about anybody but themselves so to Hell with you.I't hard to stick by someone like that! Oh well,maybe we can get rid of a few of those people if the fifty five and out bill gets passed. Here's a link. http://railroadworkersunited.org/update-early-retirement-campaign This has a chance so get petitions and get them signed.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 28 February 2009 Wildman: I wish it was that easy to get people to stick together...if that were the case we wouldnt have the issues we are having right now. It seems everybody is out for themselves. Especially the fucking UNIONS

Name: Wildman E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 28 February 2009 I'm sure all of you have seen where CSX has called conductors off their extra board to work as engineers and engineers off regular assignments to work other jobs as well. THIS HAS GOT TO STOP!!! There are people furloughed right now and doing favors for this outfit that result in our brothers and sisters staying layed off is despicable! I hope that from now on there will be enough pressure applied to the guilty parties that "getting an extra day" will be made so unpleasant that it's not worth it to do these favors. The company has started to increase the extra boards around here a couple at a time but it's still pretty tight.Most of our local people get the idea but there's still a couple of them that would do anything to make an extra day even if it takes food out of the mouth of a man's children.The employees were cut-off through no fault of their own so we should do everything we can to help them get back to work. SO; 1.Quit working extra days.Only work the jobs you are assigned to protect! 2.The early quits,for now,must go! Make overtime if you can. 3.100% rules compliance! 4.No more cancelling "off days"! 5.Lay off whenever you can for whatever reason dependent on your money needs!("needs" not "wants") 6.No more conductors working as engineers! Stick with your assigned duties.I know this time of year the weather's bad and it's nice to work out of the cold and rain but there are jobs on the line! I know there ain't a lot of employees that read this stuff but the ones that do read it should spread it around.

Name: Goober E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 27 February 2009 Lookie here, someone, we know not who, is finally making some sense. The small pecker comment is so true it almost scares me. I worked with a few Engineers on the RR that always talked about how large their peckers were. Some would come over to the left side to pee over the rail so that everyone could see it. Then laugh and say Tell everyone ya know???? I did notice that they may have been large on that end, but really short topside if you get my drift! I saw a bunch of those thongs in mexico a few weeks ago and you are right I loved them, and it is true I wanted to buy one, then reality hit, I had nothing to put it on!!! I have seen the Chippendales as a mater of fact. I Co sponsored their performance, on 2 occasions and made a bit of cash from it. As there were only 10 males there and 500 women it was really a lot of fun. Thanks for the unintended nice post there no name, non-employee for no time. Guess yo mommy failed to give you a nickname. GOOFY Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 26 February 2009 Goober has a small penis. Very small. He wears thongs too. HARHARHAR He spends all his dollar bills watching the chippendales.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 27 February 2009 Noreaster, I'm pretty sure even your Commodore 64 has a caps lock key. TURN IT OFF! Thank you very much.. :)

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 26 February 2009 Goober has a small penis. Very small. He wears thongs too. HARHARHAR He spends all his dollar bills watching the chippendales.

Name: noreaster E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 26 February 2009 I AGREE WITH COMENTS BELOW IF IT WAS NOT FOR SOME OLD HEADS THAT TOOK CARE OF ME WHEN I FIRST HIRED OUT I WOULD BE LOST,THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS ALWAYS COME UP IN THE PAST,ABOUT HOW TRAINMEN IN OLDER SENIORITY GET THESE EXTRA DOLLARS FOR IE:ONE ON ONE BUT IN ALL FACT I AGREE WITH THE OLDER TRAINMEN THEY PAID THEIR DUES THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS OWED TO THEM WHEN THEY DID SIGN THIS,HOW CAN WE SIT HERE AND SHOW ANOMOSITY TOWARDS A AGREEMENT THAT WAS SIGNED ALMOST 25+ YEARS AGO AND BITCH ABOUT IT,THIS WAS THEIR AGREEMENT NOT YOURS THEY PAID THEIR DUES ,WHO KNOWS MAYBE SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE IS FOR US,IF YOU WANT TO SIT HERE AND BITCH I STILL DON'T SEE PEOPLE AT THE MONTHLY UNION MEETING.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 26 February 2009 CSX 25.14 -1.59

Name: bonus E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years Posted: 25 February 2009 How many management jobs have been cut??? Stock down by half....Union contract workers cut to skeleton crews....if anyone knows any management jobs cut post here...I hear big bonuses were given for all the job cuts

Name: Tired bring the young men back E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 25 February 2009 In response to Bill Setser's post I have worked under 3 supers at russell terminal and you have got to be the worst. I'm not talking about e-test, boards or conduct only management. You can't get anything done in that yard anymore and it doesnt matter if your leaving with light engines or switching. The locals used to get done everyday as long as we had the signals now your on the law 5 miles out of the yard, your waiting on a pilot for the q316 cause an engineer was not rested for 3 hours. Claus was bad but at least he would listen, your all i'm the boss do it this no questions, its like you dont understand i cant move without permission from the yardmaster and you change the way the job is done everyday that means a job briefing which takes time. Things are getting bad a russell and its your job to move trains out of that terminal and if your the big answer to claus's screw up, money talks man, and two crews for to move a train 95 miles with 5 hours spent in your yard just like to two before CSX will ask you why not us.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for N/A Posted: 25 February 2009 To: Conductor 1-10 years: Sounds like the company was following the latest trend in American business to me--eliminate some positions and dump the responsibility on existing employees willing to do the work. In this case, apparently it was engineers WITH seniority. Why should the railroad be any different? Afterall, the transportation industry is a business too.... JMP

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 25 February 2009 To JMP They use to have at least five crew members on every train. The so called old heads sold off all the jobs but two for money when they retire. so the so called old heads have hurt the younger senority people way more then they have ever helped!! Most are greedy ol farts!!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for N/A Posted: 24 February 2009 To Superman: You are not fit to clean the shoes of the "old heads" who make this railroad run. I notice you are reluctant to post what position you fill with CSX. Regardless, your punk ass has a long way to go before you have earned the right to speak so disparagingly of those who payed their dues and paved the way for the likes of you. My Father retired after 50 years with the (then L&N) as a traveling engineer and trainmaster and all three of my brothers worked for the railroad in various capacities ranging from brakeman to yard master to engineer and BLE LC. All served honorably and worked hard for every dime they made. Two of my bros are retired now and one is still working. While I am sure all was not perfectly rosy every day of their employment, I can say with confidence that NOT ONE of them was useless or incapable of fulfilling his obligations even at the end of their employment. You should be thanking the "old heads". If you weren't such an igmo, you might actually learn something from them. JMP

Name: E-mail: Employed as: CSX Customer, for N/A Posted: 24 February 2009 C S X STOCK $24.97 before long they will be wanting MONEY FROM OBAMA.

Name: Goober E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 24 February 2009 loco do you really want to challenge my statements on the tobacco industry? You will find yourself in a gunfight holding a flipper. You are not smart enough to know the industry nor it's history. Example number one---(Smoke em if ya gotem) is from the US Military-- not from me. I served My Time, guess you missed Your Time. Do not take my word for it, ask a real old head that served this country and you will get a smile. Example number two---Caughing up turds is a problem, suggest you see a specialist in your area. Proctologist/EENT would be a good start. GOOFY GOOFYCough, Cough. Hack, Hack. Damn, I think I coughed a lung up.( Mostlikely just a back up from your rectum) Most likely a turd named Goober ( Us Govt told you to smoke em if yagot em not me) Well your wrong there also. The tobacco industry told me to smoke em and buy em. Would you like me to go into the advertising propaganda that was publihed until the government stepped in. You also know the industry and the feds. knew long before they admiited it that they were horrible for aperson. Big lobby money and too much tax revenue for the feds. to give up, so both kept lieing. As far as the warning on the pack, there were none there when I started, pusher man.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 21 February 2009 Name: Goober E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 21 February 2009 mployed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 18 February 2009 Cough, Cough. Hack, Hack. Damn, I think I coughed a lung up.( Most likely just a back up from your rectum) I wish Goober would of had the nuts to say cigs aren't good for me instead of being a pusher for all those years.( Us Govt told you to smoke em if ya got em not me) He can inform us of whats wrong with us. But remember its coming from a man that hasn't been here in 30 something years,(39 next month March 9) that still stands up for the cig industry. These are the same people who knew for years that tobacco was bad for us, but never admitted it.( Us Govt told you to smoke em if ya got em not me) However please do not quit at this late date, I need them checks to keep on coming! oh bye the way, the nasty industry sent me my first check in 5/1970 and my last one to date was 2/2009 does that register in your diesel infected head? ===================================================================== GOOFYCough, Cough. Hack, Hack. Damn, I think I coughed a lung up.( Mostlikely just a back up from your rectum) Most likely a turd named Goober ( Us Govt told you to smoke em if yagot em not me) Well your wrong there also. The tobacco industry told me to smoke em and buy em. Would you like me to go into the advertising propaganda that was publihed until the government stepped in. You also know the industry and the feds. knew long before they admiited it that they were horrible for aperson. Big lobby money and too much tax revenue for the feds. to give up, so both kept lieing. As far as the warning on the pack, there were none there when I started, pusher man.

Name: Goober E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 21 February 2009 mployed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 18 February 2009 Cough, Cough. Hack, Hack. Damn, I think I coughed a lung up.( Most likely just a back up from your rectum) I wish Goober would of had the nuts to say cigs aren't good for me instead of being a pusher for all those years.( Us Govt told you to smoke em if ya got em not me) He can inform us of whats wrong with us. But remember its coming from a man that hasn't been here in 30 something years,(39 next month March 9) that still stands up for the cig industry. These are the same people who knew for years that tobacco was bad for us, but never admitted it.( We told you over and over, Placed cautions on the product before you were born). However please do not quit at this late date, I need them checks to keep on coming! oh bye the way, the nasty industry sent me my first check in 5/1970 and my last one to date was 2/2009 does that register in your diesel infected head? GOOFY

Name: E-mail: Employed as: CSX Customer, for N/A Posted: 21 February 2009 OH MY WAS I WRONG C S X $26.30 I SHOULD HAVE STAYED OUT OF THIS STOCK AT $29.00 . the stock is following right alone with the company just no good neither one of them. i was right at $60.00-$45.00-AND AT $35.00 BUT I SCREWED UP GOT BACK IN AT $29.00 I FINALLLY REALIZED THAT YOU CAN EXPECT ANY AND EVERYTHING FROM C S X.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 30+ years Posted: 20 February 2009 Conductor in train crash had safety violations Role examined in Canton accident http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2009/02/18/conductor_in_train_crash_had_safety_violations/ By Noah Bierman Globe Staff / February 18, 2009 Train conductor facing scrutiny for his role in last year's runaway freight crash that left about 100 people injured had been cited previously for leaving rail cars on a steep hill without applying the brakes, according to a disciplinary report filed as part of a lawsuit. Despite that 2002 rules violation and at least eight other mostly safety-related citations, the conductor was left in charge of delivering and securing a 112-ton freight car that came loose from a lumber yard on March 25 and barreled down 3 miles of track before ramming an MBTA commuter train and injuring about 100 passengers in Canton. The conductor's disciplinary history, over a 15-year career, was included in court documents filed Friday as part of an ongoing lawsuit between the Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority and several other parties, including CSX Transportation, which was in charge of the freight car and employed its conductor. The attorney for CSX conductor James M. Collins, Robert D'Auria, denied his client had ever failed to set handbrakes on freight cars, and blamed the MBTA for trying to smear Collins as part of the lawsuit over the Canton accident. "There's overwhelming evidence in this case that he set that handbrake," D'Auria said yesterday. D'Auria pointed out that the rail car sat at the Cohenno lumber yard for five or six hours on the day of the crash before it rolled away. Collins, 61, and the engineer on the job, Lawrence O'Neil, wrote in sworn statements the day after the crash that they had set the Canton freight car properly. Collins has not been disciplined by CSX for any rules violations since 2004, according to court documents. The MBTA and the private company that runs its commuter rail service blame CSX for the crash and are trying to build a case that the company has a history of recklessness in securing freight cars. CSX says in court documents that the MBTA is trying to create a sideshow, presenting information out of context in court filings, and "grandstanding" to deflect blame. CSX asserts in court papers that MBTA equipment could have prevented the crash by derailing the runaway car, but failed, and that the MBTA's contractor may not have taken enough action to protect passengers as the freight car rambled off the lumber yard. Officials on both sides declined to comment on the suit. A day after Collins was cited in 2002 for "leaving cars unattended with no handbrakes on a steep grade," he was cited for a more technical violation and told his supervisor that "no work would get done if safety rules were obeyed," according to CSX reports included in the MBTA's court filing. The MBTA memo filed Friday also says CSX, which operates in 23 states and Canada, has admitted to between 300 and 350 documented instances in which its employees have failed to set handbrakes. CSX says in its response that those incidents represent allegations made over the course of eight years, when its employees set handbrakes thousands of times per day. The Federal Railroad Administration mentioned the company's problems securing cars in a 2007 safety audit. Over a three-day period, safety inspectors found seven instances of failing to apply handbrakes sufficiently. "Safety is always our primary focus and when the FRA comes to us with something, we work very closely with them and always in the interest of trying to improve what is already a very good safety record," said Bob Sullivan, CSX spokesman. The federal agency also cited handbrake problems as the cause of 25 accidents involving CSX between January 2006 and November 2008. Agency spokesman Rob Kulat said in September that officials would file no criminal charges related to the Canton crash because there were neither fatalities nor any apparent motive. Kulat said yesterday the agency had not concluded its investigation. Collins, and the engineer working with him the day of the Canton crash, refused in civil court depositions to answer questions about how they set the brakes on the freight car that eventually came loose last year, according to court documents. Both men cited their right against self-incrimination. CSX and D'Auria contend the MBTA forced them into that response by conducting a parallel criminal investigation of the crash through its police department. "They're trying to put my guy under the cloud of a criminal investigation," said D'Auria, who has filed suit against the MBTA over what he said is its refusal to hand over the findings of its investigation. The MBTA finished its investigation last year, turning it over to the Norfolk district attorney's office, which has yet to finish its review, according to spokesman David Traub. All parties involved in the lawsuit, including Cohenno lumber and the MBTA's contractor, the Massachusetts Bay Commuter Railroad Company of Boston, set aside money last year to settle passenger claims for injuries and property damage. So far, 37 claims have been settled. Another 180 are pending. Noah Bierman can be reached at nbierman@globe.com. Š Copyright 2009 Globe Newspaper Company.

Name: Wildman E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 20 February 2009 Report the signal to the FRA.I don't know what they would do but at least there will be a report on file. Maybe take your beloved RFE on a ride to see for himself.That's how I'd probably start out.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 20 February 2009 How CSX finds the location to place new signals. Find nearest overhead bridge. Install signal on other side of bridge to obstruct your view of signal.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for Less than 1 year Posted: 19 February 2009 WELCOME THE NEW WORLD ORDER.... IT'S ALL JUST PART OF THE BIG PICTURE...WORLDWIDE DEPRESSION....GLOBAL DOMINATION...THE US GOVERNMENT MAKES CSX OFFICIALS LOOK LIKE CHOIR BOYS...1 MILLION MAN ARMED CIVILIAN REACTIONARY FORCE LAW ALREADY PASSED 12/23/09....MARTIAL LAW....GOVERNMENT FORCES WILL TAKEOVER ALL RAILROADS WITHIN NEXT 1-2 YEARS -MAX ....U.S. DEBT> unfunded liability= 66 trillion dollars. Entire world's GDP= 65 trillion dollars...DO THE MATH...this is not a typical furlough, this is the END...THE ONLY REAL CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN IS THAT THEY PUT A BLACK FACE ON THE NEW WORLD ORDER...OBAMA AIN"T SAVING NOBODY...THAT TRAIN DONE LEFT THE STATION

Name: Wildman E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 19 February 2009 We all need to start laying off on PL or DV right now to help get some of our fellow employees marked up. One day a half in bigger terminals or one day a week in the smaller ones will help out.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 18 February 2009 Cough, Cough. Hack, Hack. Damn, I think I coughed a lung up. I wish Goober would of had the nuts to say cigs aren't good for me instead of being a pusher for all those years. He can inform us of whats wrong with us. But remember its coming from a man that hasn't been here in 30 something years, that still stands up for the cig industry. These are the same people who knew for years that tobacco was bad for us, but never admitted it.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 18 February 2009 the only train TONY INGRAM ever ran was in the YMCA bathroom with hir buddies.

Name: Goober E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 18 February 2009 Plenty of RR Experience laying around in those UNIONS. Why would you want anymore of that crap in MGT? I know you want a buddy, and that is not going to happen. For years the best road to MGT was a LC job. Now figure that out??? vierling, Moody ETC ring a bell??? DUH GOOFY

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 18 February 2009 Lets sticke together and stick it to the MAN Dont know about everone else but I am tired of working ever 10 hours right off my rest, while my brothers and sisters are layedoff. I am marking off this weekend, Everyone should!!! let Ingram come run some trains.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 18 February 2009 CSX 27.30 -1.92 -6.57%

Name: dad E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 17 February 2009 it's no secrete that csx dose not want management employees with rr experience.the managers at our terminal with rr experience were pretty much forced out through intimidation when this new era of railroading took off a few years ago.csx wants to keep you from dealing with an local manager who may actually be a friend and fellow worker, who came up through the ranks.instead they want to be seperatist, who dictate policy from their ivory tower in jacksonville, and expect local trainmasters to ask how high, when told to jump.we as contract employees are forced to take our grievances to our local union officials,and we all know how frustrating that can be.it's all about money,your claims are turned down...you may or may not get your hard earned money.how can csx require me to view a pod video on how ethical they are,and turn around and steal money from me the next week.IT,S REAL SIMPLE,IT'S US AGAINST THEM AND THEY DREW FIRST BLOOD.the only way this will ever be a "kinder gentler" railroad is for the employees to put aside their differences and stick together.it would'nt take that long,maybe 2 weeks,maybe less,and we could bring the carrier to their well used, ass kissing knees.the gov't had air traffic controllers in place in the air force,army,marines and navy,so it stands to reason that commercial air traffic controllers were shit out of luck when they went on strike.but i'd like to see them round up enough engineers and conductors to run trains if we all suddenly got sick at the same time....can't fault a man for dreaming!!!!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 17 February 2009 CSX 29.22 -0.10 -0.34%

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 1-10 years Posted: 17 February 2009 Dad, It should be no wonder as to why CSX continues to hire people into the management training program that have no RR experience. With no experience, they take everything that is fed to them as if it were the absolute truth and are easy to manipulate. Those that come from the ranks either are either on a power trip or actually believe they can make a difference. Power trippers follow their upper power trippers and the problem continues. The others usually go back on their tools. If I am not mistaken, I believe Tony Ingram started as a management trainee with Southern, and had no prior RR experience. Should be no surprise, then, as the emphasis is put on outside hires for management, instead of inside hires. Guess nobody in JAX ever asked the question as to why so few T&E want to cross over. Pay cut, double the hours, and rampant incompetence. What a mess!!

Name: dad E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 16 February 2009 jj and iggle eyes,at least these old heads have the yard to come back to,you two dumb-asses will be put in the street by a division manager if things keep getting torn up in your terminals.what a couple of idiots,you were probably hired straight off the the street,which is where you'll both end up,while these old heads play golf on run-off insurance for a month.

Name: Goober E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 16 February 2009 SUPERBOWL: I have heard not a word about the CSX and the superbowl? Guess they must have gotten the disgust from this site last year??? Wanny bet that there was money spent for the event, and no one can find it!!! Just thought I would comment on a new topic, because we all know they did spend and recover the cost with just a few small job cuts. GOOFY

Name: JJ E-mail: Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 20-30 years Posted: 16 February 2009 I agree with your comment Eagle Eyes and thank you for your post If my terminal here does not shape up, I will miss my quarterly safety bonus and will not make the payment on my wife's SUV. Be safe. JJ

Name: Eagles Eyes E-mail: Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 1-10 years Posted: 16 February 2009 I think these old guys that have been bumped from thier on the road jobs back to the yard need to RETIRE. They are unsafe !!! Already in the past 2 months, we have had more derailments in the yard and on the road then in the past 5 years. Run thru switches, side swips, not protecting shoves, improper train handling procedures etc. OUT WITH THE OLD AND IN WITH THE NEW !!

Name: Jeff White E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 15 February 2009 Hey "retired" I agree with you. I have been out of the RR for two weeks but luckily have previous logistics experience that I landed another job in the gov't within 4 days. I am back to wearing nice clothes and not being in the bad weather....LOL Plus, I am making $15,000 more a year than I made in the past 4 years I was with the railroad. I am seeing my family more. It is great. Two weeks ago a train master in Baltimore put me in CQ status. Within two days, got a call to take a train that wasn't even in my terminal. I was being messed with basically (I was never known to keep my mouth shut if you can't tell..LOL). That is when I decided enough is enough!!! I told my new job I had to give two weeks notice to the RR (which we all know is BS) and I have been in Ft. Lauderdale, FL ever since!!! We just took my friends yacht out of riverfront here in Ft. Lauderdale this evening. He said,"I am so glad to see you get out of that hell hole Jeff and back to the normal world. You have changed so much since you started with them (CSX). I am glad to see you back!!!" (which he has been asking me to do for the last 4 years) It is nice to be back to reality and the normal world. Now I have to fly back to VA today and get ready to start working tomorrow!!:0( sucks!!! But as depressing as it may seem to leave from down here, all I have to to do is think about what I went through with the RR for 10 seconds and then I wake up. Otherwise, I am happy to go back to VA and start living in the regular world. I have become a HUGE FAN OF THIS SITE!! And whoever developed it, GOD BLESS YOUR HEART!!! You all take care and good luck. Much more importantly, stay safe!!!:0) Sincerely, Jeff White

Name: ave joe E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 15 February 2009 hey guys just posting to say sorry for my lewdness on my last post drank a little too much and frustration reared its ugly head so anyway sorry for being a butt joe

Name: Rube E-mail: Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years Posted: 15 February 2009 That Billy Jack knows what hes talking a bout. I see him tell the truth on here. I am MOW and we see what goes on for the company. CSX sux and none of the union employees sticks together because alot of scared little pussyboys out here now. I calling for revolution now. C'mon... Lets do it.

Name: Matt Stamper E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 15 February 2009 Can someone tell Matt Sanders in Baltimore that he left his Crotch-less underwear on my night stand. I would deeply appreciate it. I am trying to call him but he will not call me back. We played swords last night with our genitals and had a great time. But when I woke up he was no longer laying next to me. My last resort is to call his girlfriend but she doesn't know about this. Plus, she is from South America and has some nappy-headed hair and doesn't speak any english. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Sincerely, Matt Stamper

Name: norheast E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 14 February 2009 I HAVE BEEN BROWSING QUITE A FEW THINGS ON HERE THE PAST WEEK,I HAVE NOTICED A LOT OF FELLOW CSX EMPLOYEES HAVE EXPRESSED THEIR FEELINGS ABOUT BEING FURLOUGHED ,REMOTE OPERATIONS,BEING TREATED UNFAIRLY AS USUAL FROM THIS COMPAY THAT WE WORK FOR.MY QUESION IS THIS, WHERE ARE THESE FELLOW UNION WORKERS AT THE MEETING EACH MONTH? MAYBE 5 OR 6 AT THE MOST,WE ALL ARE IN THIS TOGETHER UNFORTUNATLY I HAVE NOTICED THAT WE AS FELLOW CONDUCTORS,ENGINEERS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN OUR OWN WORST ENEMY ,I ADMIT THE UNION IS NOT PERFECT OR MAYBE NOT THEIR FOR YOUR EXPECTATIONS OF WHAT IT SHOULD BE,BELIEVE ME I WISH THAT WAS THE CASE IF THAT WAS SO THIS WOULD BE A PERFECT WORLD AND JOB ENVIROMENT.I AM NOT GOING TO SIT HERE AND VOUCH ABOUT HOW GREAT THE UNION IS THEIR IS FLAWS,BUT IF WE DONT STICK TOGETHER THEN WHAT ELSE DO WE HAVE?WE CAN FIGHT AMONG OURSELVES,BLAME SOMEBODY WHO HAS 30+ YEARS OF SERVICE,PEOPLE NOT RETIREING,REMOTE JOBS ETC....,THE WAY I SEE IT AND MIND YOU MY OPINION DOES NOT MEAN ANYTHING PROBABLY,BUT IF THIS IS OUR FUTURE THEN WHAT ELSE DO WE HAVE? CSX -I THINK NOT,I WILL STICK TRUE TO MYSELF AND TRY TO MAKE SOMETHING BETTER IN THIS NOT SO PERFECT WORLD.

Name: av joe E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 13 February 2009 fuck csx that is all i can say to all you fuckers working there its nice to know the K&B system is still working K&B= Know and Blow system of hiring meanign you new your daddy and then you blew his boss

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 13 February 2009 Here's a little story for you rail buff. My neighbor has a model railroad set up in a room inside his home, he asked to come over and take a look at it thinking I would be interested because I work for CSX (like I really gave a flying rats ass about some damn model rr because I'm a conductor!) So I acted nice and agreed to take a look at it, I noticed he had a large set up with a rail yard and a little small village. My neighbor asked me if there was anything missing that he could add to make it like the real thing. I noticed he had some fake bushes and I said he needed to add a figure with some binoculars looking over at the rail yard trying to catch someone breaking a rule. Anyways to get to my point my neighbor could not believe those sort of things happened on the railroad. So rail buff if you are looking to rail fan thats fine but to work for a railroad is a whole different animal. Kind of reminds of this guy I knew who was a military buff and joined the army. He found out it was nothing close when he started getting shot at over in Iraq.

Name: Wildman E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 13 February 2009 Non-employee; Don't hold your breath.CSX has even laid off future employees right in the middle of the training program.So it will be a year or more before they start hiring again. Now since you are a rail buff you should think about working for a company you just observe when you feel like it.There's a lot more to this place than you see while standing along the tracks taking pictures.How many times have you stood out in the rain to watch a train go by? How long did it take? We get to watch trains go by for hours at a stretch in the rain,snow,freezing cold,and blistering heat.How many trains do you watch at 0300? Do you ever get phone calls just before you sit down to eat dinner so you can go watch trains? Have you ever canceled an important engagement so you could go out and watch trains? You will if you get a job with any railroad! The best part is just watching isn't enough.There's work to be done and it has to be done right and you don't get to say when you've done enough and it's time to go home for the day.(or night) My advice is to get a job somewhere else and keep your hobby intact.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 13 February 2009 WITH 40 YEARS SERVICE AS U t U conductors i feel like we did indeed steal the engineers jobs on the remotes. instead of sitting down with the engineers and working on a deal to work these remotes which was forced on us we sat down with C S X and took their job of running a engine the good u t u sold them out like everthing else they sold. i voted for none of their pay outs but got it anyway.not long in the future it will not matter for you will be on one roster and will be called for either a engineer or condr everyone will be on one extra board the sooner the u t u is done away with and then everyone will be just one union working together and getting alone with each group a lot better. i donot see how anyone can say that we should be operating a remote the condrs are not entitle to run a engine you just might change your mind if you are requied to be certified like the engineers are.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 12 February 2009 I have heard great things about CSX. I have always been a RR buff and would like to work for CSX. How do I go about applying for a job at CSX? Any info would be helpful. Thanks

Name: Superman E-mail: Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 1-10 years Posted: 12 February 2009 Loco Engineer for 30+, I think you are a company suck boy. I also think you are a union pussy and a prior rights sell out fuck boy, bitch, punk ass. Good thing I don't work with you....You are a puss wad, and the younger generation don't lay down like you old farts did and still do. Go retire and die like a good old head should.

Name: Billy Jack E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years Posted: 12 February 2009 Billy Jack knows what a SCAB is- you bunch of illiterate mutts. Sure, if we could strike, the term would be appropriate. I guess I should just call them sorry ass pieces of shit. SCAB just sounded better. Hey, Laid Off, take the call you sorry bastard- wait and see what your take home is after taxes, tier 1&2, medical insurance, job insurance,& union dues. NOTHING!!!! Go on out there, HERO. Don't worry, one day your nuts will drop.

Name: BRAD E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years Posted: 12 February 2009 Speaking of scabs i recall very well when conrail layed off a bunch of trainmen in the 80,s,, Some of our BROTHERS went up to new england and scabbed on guilford lines rr while thier workers were on strike!!! Thats not the worst part,,, When conrail called them back they all came a running back and most all treated them like brothers again,, Well i did not i will never accept or trust a SCAB!!!!!

Name: retired E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 09 February 2009 if you think you have problems with the way c s x calls crews when they need someone just wait untill all the extra boards is combined into one board condrs and enginer board. it is just a matter of time.i remember when we had a trainman and condr. board it was combined into one it really got bad for the condrs would make two trips to your one if you wasnot a promoted condr. at a time like what is going on now does not get better some people may be off for a long time.maybe the hrs and service law will change to 10hrs and everyone must have off days if this could pass a lot of people will be back to work.the pay is good but the job stinks with all the harrasement you have to put up with now too many shitty rules to follow with trainmasters and road foremans out to make a name for themself. you will out last all of them just hang in there. in my early days the trainmasters and roadforeman was out here to help you not fire you.

Name: Billy Jack E-mail: Employed as: APE, for N/A Posted: 08 February 2009 ALL SCABS should be beaten with a rubber hose. Any employee that takes a call that they don't have to is a BUDDY-FUCKER and needs to have an old school beatdown. The Computer don't lie and we are watching. Don't piss off the boys from Alabama- if you know what's good for you!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 08 February 2009 I see them cutting everywhere but management jobs. These bastards in management up top are pathetic

Name: Wildman E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 08 February 2009 CSX is cutting jobs everywhere! The utility jobs are pretty much all gone and the six and seven day jobs are going also. We all must start making overtime on every job or further cuts will be coming.NO MORE EARLY QUITS!!! Start "layin' off" (pl's and DV's) at least one day per week just to keep the extra boards turning.We can afford it. I know this'll pretty much fall on deaf ears but we need to stick together in this.Remember,the work that the yard job don't get done today will have to be done by the next job.Then that job don't get all the work done and then the train is late getting out of the yard.Then the TM gets Hell on the morning conference call and eventually the jobs get restored.This isn't going to happen overnight! It's going to take months of resistance to make anything happen but if we ALL stick together we can get the jobs back.I was told by a very high ranking CSX officer (John Snow) that "the job cuts will continue until we can't run trains,then the jobs will be reinstated one by one until we can". We have been through this before but the difference now is that we can all talk to fellow employees through forums like this one.When I was furloughed back in the 80's the conversations were limited to crew rooms and engine cabs.Nobody gave a damn about the cut off employees because that was just part of the game.Well,I remember what it was like to be cut off and I do feel sorry for the effected families.I was a single party animal and it didn't hurt me at all but the men who had responsibilities were devastated. Come on,let's all get behind this and keep what jobs we have left.Railroaders are an independent bunch but this is something we must help each other out with.On the first day of my first student trip one of the old heads told me that "we fight each other all the time, but if any outsider gets involved we stop and beat their ass instead"! This is a time to beat their ass instead! The stockholders are killing us one lost job at a time!!!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 07 February 2009 Quit whining.........Obama heres to help you........until then relax.......smoke a joint......the messiah and pot will get you thru your problems with csx.

Name: Larry Fitzgerald E-mail: big salami Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for N/A Posted: 04 February 2009 I applied as a conductor 5 months ago.I never got a call back or an explaination..Bull SHITT>>After reading everybodies comments I am glad to still have my old job. Pays better, safe. secure and none of these csx Nazis.I like this website ..It is entertaing and it is good to see corporate fuck faces get the brown banana. Ps I can now smoke weed Again.#11 Fuck the steelers

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 04 February 2009 Sorry if I posted this in every section, but every once in a while I have to remind everyone........ February 3, 2009 and CSX STILL SUCKS!!!!!!!

Name: turtlehead E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 03 February 2009 YES, IT IS TRUE! THE TRAINMASTERS ARE BEING REMOTE QUALIFIED IN CINCINATI. WHY? HMMM....

Name: dragline E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 02 February 2009 Man are you right about Little Jimmie Cramer. He got to be a big shot when he owned Cramer/Berkowitz in the 90's. Oops, they lost a huge bundle and ran him off. He is strictly showbiz. Listen to guys like Jimmy Rogers. He is always way ahead of the curve or market. Some people talk about making money and others actually do so. And look at the management. Would you lend any of these jerkoffs in CSX management a dime? Think about it.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 02 February 2009 Cramer is the last person that I would listen to when it comes to buying & selling stock. People have lost too much money listening to that fool.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: CSX Customer, for N/A Posted: 30 January 2009 CRAMER WAS TELLING EVERYONE TO BUY C S X STOCK in sept. he was talking a lot with ward then IT WAS $60.00 A SHARE NOW SINSE THE STOCK HAS GOT DOWN TO thirty dollars he tells everyone to sell,sell he is a little bit late.it is too late to tell someone to sell now for i fill like it is buying time. I SOLD SOME AT SIXTY SOME AT FIFTY THE REST AT FOURTY FIVE NOW I HAVE STARTED GETTIN BACK IN AT twenty nine.no need to sell now.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 29 January 2009 Here's another case of CSX rewarding incompetance. The BIG Shots were coming to town so the TM gave one of the idiots a "safety day" to get rid of him for a day. A day off with pay so he wouldn't embarass the boss? Good God,what's next.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 28 January 2009 hey this is for: M of W, for 30+ years I dont know if you notice but the website you logged on to is csx-sucks.com. People come here to bitch and moan and complain you jackass. hince the website name. If your coming to this website site your not coming here to look for praise about how well the company is treating you. Your coming here to voice your disgust of how the company is treating you or read how bad somebody else has got it. Surely you been in the same spot these lemon heads were once and you complained just like they do. In fact by your statement you still fucking complaining now its just about something different. So why dont you go back to your corner with your bottle of "skin-so-soft" and jerk your self a shake. From what i can tell you've been here for 30+ years and havent retired. your tit you've been sucking on must of dried up by now. Your more than likely afraid if you retire you'll prolly kill over cause there nothing in life left for you but to bitch and moan about the lemon heads.

Name: fedup E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 28 January 2009 Maybe not you, never had any respect for a company suck, but I will say that we have the softest side of the labor thing, I have nothin but respect for track workers, they earn their money, but people like yourself I guess just dont get it, management expects me to do my job, all I want in return is compensated for it, dont want a at-aboy, just want to know that management will have my back when I fuck up, and in some sort or another, everyone will, I dont care how well you know all the rules!!! And fyi- I paid for my job as well. was first group in cincy's class, costed me a little over 3,000...I beleive this venting thing is good therapy,feel much better, beleive Im gonna kick the dog and t-bag the worse r half this morning! And if any u old farts dont know what t-bagging is, work with me one time and fall asleep over there, you'll learn....

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 28 January 2009 has anyone heard rumor about all trainmaster getting remote qualified? what this all about?

Name: E-mail: Employed as: M of W, for 30+ years Posted: 27 January 2009 WAH, WAH, WAH. Cry me a river. So the railroad isn't being fair to you huh? Sounds like Jimmy was pulled off momma's tit too early. Gee, guess what? Life ISN'T fair. Get over it and quit yer bitchin'. And yes, if you don't like it, quit. It's a free country. Just don't come to work with your shitty attitude and insist on ruining my day. I have my own problems, and I don't insist on sharing them with everyone within earshot. If you thought CSX was going to let you come to work, jack-off all day AND pay you a fairly decent salary for what amounts to menial labor, you're an idiot. Get over it, or just move on please.

Name: fedup E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 27 January 2009 Face the facts people(green heads), your are nothing but a 5 digit number to them, they(way upper management) could care less for your lively hood,. The only digits the jacksonville jackoffs are worried about is them 6 digits they pull in from our sweat! I know Im venting about something everyone should already know, but it just gets my goat when you try to warn someone whats going to happen,(and this only will get worse), and you hear- they told us at the redi center that we wont be laid off...rol lmao!!!! They hired the shit outta people here in the Huntington division, now they laid off people that wasnt even done training, how about that shit. If you get a chance, burry a boner in their ass and tell my yardmaster that this sexual encounter isnt meant for him. And yea I dun it posted in every forum, so suck my ass!!!!!

Name: C&O JOE E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 25 January 2009 I read an article awhile back about how the board that is supposed to meet periodicly to evaluate disability claims aginst RR Retirement hasn't met in over 8 years and in that time 98% of the claimants have been approved. If your leaning toward punching out for good, theres no better time than right now before something changes and the requirments get stricter. Dosn't hurt that their furloughing like crazy either.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 24 January 2009 Who owns the railroads By Assistant President Arty Martin and GS&T Kim Thompson Among the most difficult challenges facing us in 2009 arrives in November, when we exchange Railway Labor Act Section 6 notices with the carriers -- the list of each side's demands for the next collective bargaining round. Our national rail contract is open for renewal on Jan. 1, 2010, and this upcoming bargaining round will be among our toughest ever given the deteriorating state of the national economy, the advance of technology and Wall Street pressure on railroads to deliver increased profits. While the national rail contract affects members on only BNSF, CSX, Kansas City Southern, Norfolk Southern and Union Pacific, these national contracts tend to be a trend setter for bargaining on other freight railroads and Amtrak, and are frequently referred to by commuter railroads. A reasonable individual might have good reason to assume the upcoming bargaining round will be favorable to employees. After all, railroads are among today's few solidly profitable industries in America, and Wall Street confirms they have unprecedented pricing power. Moreover, the carriers continue to improve productivity, and it is the workers -- especially operating craft employees -- who are most responsible. Indeed, the railroads' own figures, as published by the Association of American Railroads, show that revenue ton-miles per employee -- the best benchmark for measuring productivity -- has soared five-fold since 1980, from 2.1 million revenue ton-miles per employee to almost 11 million revenue ton-miles per employee today. Accordingly, the railroads' labor costs have declined by 43 percent -- from 46.5 cents of every revenue dollar in 1980, to 26.4 cents of every revenue dollar today. This is because the employee headcount has dropped from 532,000 in 1980 to 236,000 today -- a 56 percent decline in workers, while productivity has soared. Among train and engine service employees, the head count fell from almost 136,000 in 1980 to fewer than 70,000 train and engine service employees today. Unfortunately, none of this matters to the carriers at the bargaining table, because it is hot Wall Street dollars that set the tone of carrier Section 6 notices. Perhaps you have noticed Wall Street investment funds have been buying up shares of the major railroads. BNSF, for example, is 46 percent owned by Wall Street investment funds. At CSX, the figure is 35 percent; at Union Pacific, 34 percent; at Kansas City Southern, 33 percent; and at Norfolk Southern, 32 percent, according to Bloomberg News. These investment funds, some of them based in foreign countries, have a narrow focus of increasing stock price and increasing dividend payouts -- often without concern to an appropriate level of railroad maintenance, and certainly without concern for employees and their families. For sure, investment funds are behind the anti-labor policies at Wal-Mart and policies that export good American jobs overseas. What a labor union does is to fight back -- and the UTU will be spending the months leading up to the exchange of Section 6 notices by building our case on behalf of our members. Who Owns the Railroads BNSF Berkshire Hathaway 21.8% Capital Research Global 5.6% Barclays Global 3.3% UBS Global 3.0% Vanguard Group 2.8% State Street Corp. 2.7% Fidelity Mgt. 2.4% Capital World Invest. 1.7% JP Morgan Chase 1.2% Barrow, Hanley 1.2% Total 45.7% CSX Citigroup 5.4% Barclays Global 4.7% Childrens Invest. Fund 4.5% 3G Capital 4.4% Deutsche Bank 4.2% State Street Corp. 3.6% Vanguard Group 3.2% Tiger Global 1.9% Bank of N.Y. 1.6% JP Morgan Chase 1.3% Total 34.8% KCS Neuberger Berman 6.2% Wellington Mgt. 5.7% Marathon Asset Mgt. 4.1% Barclays Global 3.6% Vanguard Group 3.0% Keeley Asset Mgt. 2.8% Bank of America 2.4% Prudential 1.9% Munder Capital Mgt. 1.9% AXA 1.8% Total 33.4% Norfolk Southern Capital Research Global 5.0% Marsico Capital Mgt. 4.8% JP Morgan Chase 4.7% Barclays Global 4.5% State Street Corp. 3.2% Vanguard Group 3.1% Fidelity Mgt. 2.7% Pioneer Investment 1.3% Dimensional Fund 1.3% Capital World Invest. 1.1% Total 31.7% Union Pacific Marsico Capital Mgt. 6.6% Childrens Invest. Fund 4.7% Barclays Global 4.4% Capital World Invest. 3.4% State Street Corp. 3.2% Vanguard Group 3.0% AXA 2.9% Fidelity Mgt. 2.5% Bank of America 1.9% Berkshire Hathaway 1.8% Total 34.4%

Name: Train Dispatcher E-mail: Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 10-20 years Posted: 24 January 2009 Why Can't CSX do this? http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28800685/ updated 8:49 p.m. ET, Thurs., Jan. 22, 2009 OMAHA, Neb. - Union Pacific Railroad will likely reduce its active workforce by 5 percent during the coming months. ****The furloughed workers will still get benefits. Two thousand workers still work eight shifts per month, so they'll be ready to return when the economy improves.**** The Omaha-based company also reported that it is storing thousands of trains and railcars for the time being.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 22 January 2009 Retired Cond, I've never seen so many of us oldheads going out on disability. CSX isn't stopping it. Which is fine. I'll cut my time out here shorter for full disability retirement. In my area 8 people retired on disabilty last year. At least 5 so far are applying. I might be number 6. If these new ones on the railroad with their inadequite training is CSX future. This railroad is in trouble. I don't blame the new hires. What they don't know they never lost. With all the losses we've endured by our unions who have capitulated to CSX over the past 25 years. Makes me wonder if our predessors are rolling around in their graves in disbelief over the better quality of life they fought hard for then have it given away by the unions they fought, spilled blood, and died to create. The American people are ignorant to the fact rail unions brought them pensions, health coverage, vacations ect...then in the past 25 years starting with Ronald Raygun to the last idiot George "The Shrub' Bush had it taken away. America became coddled to believe American Corporations would always treat them good that unions were a waste of time. That leaves us the American worker to the point of where we are today with losing it all. A society consisting of a few haves an a lot of have nots.

Name: Goober E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 21 January 2009 To; MT 18 Jan 2009 Engine Repair. You are right on the subject. Furloughed RR folks are really hard to hire. They will run back to the RR and give no notice, just not show up, and that causes problems. Some will call in after they are called back to the RR but that is always short notice and that is a problem. Guess what, when you decide to leave the RR, you will face the same thing. No one will put 2 cents of value in what you say, and go to the next applicant. Railroading is a career that is hard to get and hard to get away from. Just the way it IS. GOOFY

Name: E-mail: Employed as: CSX Customer, for N/A Posted: 21 January 2009 c s x stock $27.88 TRAINS GETTING SHORTER AND LESS.PRICE GOUCHING ON FUEL COST TO CUSTOMERS GONE, CIVIL CASE STILL PENDING FOR PRICE GOUCHLING.

Name: E-mail: retired Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 21 January 2009 to the engineer 30 plus as you know we can thank the good old U T U FOR A LOT. THEY HAVE JUST ABOUT SOLD EVERY THING WE USED TO HAVE.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 21 January 2009 You can expect once all the protected employees in both crafts are gone there will be one extra board. Not just for both crafts but every subdivision/yard in your seniority zone. What a butt hump that will be never knowing where you'll work. You can thank the UTU for this with the crew consist of 1993.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 20 January 2009 Why is it so important to cut all these poeple off now? The economy didn't "just" get bad its been that way for the past year, and yet we continued to hire. Who knows maybe it's easier to hire and furlough, than to give MANAGEMANT at the R.E.D.I center their walkin papers. In my area we now have an engineer extraboard, as well as a trainman extraboard, and guess what? All the trainmen are FRA card holding cut back engineers. Anyone smell a single craft board? It's here, but the bigger issue is the fact that this company continues to cut it's revenue employees ie: T&E, yet it keeps more and more of the nonrevenue officials, this is a big problem. Keep your heads up, the stock value is part economy,and part reflection on the decisions this misinformed management make, not the performance of our T&E doing what they are told. If you have spent anytime at all between the ditches, you too have shook you head in disblief as some trainmaster fresh out of colledge (with no tools to fall back on)instructs you to do some of the stupidest things. But rest assured the buck gets passed should someone question his decision. You want to see just how much of a joke this management is? Try this, go to any trainmaster and ask for a rule clarification, any rule, now notice if you get a cut and dry answer, or a "I'll get back to you", or he calls a higher source to pass the buck. There are still some good mangers out here, but pressure from above keeps them at bay. A good trainmaster will answer you questions without missing a beat, and will support what he tells you to the bitter end. A few are still out here. I do uderstand the need for some cuts, but cutting the dead weight with the BIG salaries, makes better sence than cutting T&E employees, it's pennies to the dollar fellas. Thank you for the forum to ramble. Rely on ourselves to turn this thing around. Be positive, if we work together this will once again be a proud place to work. Hang in there "lemonheads" I feel for you. Anyone happen to see the on the UTU website, where the elimination of entry rates of pay will be inforced? Maybe this has something to do with job loss, form your own opinion, who knows?

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 20 January 2009 Lemonhead, Never wish on others what you wouldn't want for yourself. Hope they don't find you dead in the morning?

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 20 January 2009 Closing South Philly...negotiating a sale or lease of the property...removing the remaining track and demolitions buildings to reduce property taxes...engineer only road trains...utility men. Desperate moves by desperate men grasping at straws. Could this be the beginning of the end? Actions like this are systemic in troubled companies...look for similar actions in other parts of the system over the next 6 months.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 20 January 2009 UMMMMMMMMMM who said I was laidoff???? Did I say that.........NO, actually I am still working, so until your stupid ass knows ALL that facts shut your fucking hole, asshole. BTW retire or die fuckstick!!!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 20 January 2009 Maybe the ones hired before 97.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 20-30 years Posted: 20 January 2009 South Philly yard is due to close March 1,2009. Shared Assests will have one job and will take over any CSX business that is left. All switching operations will be split between Cumberland and Baltimore. NS and CP are in negotions with CSX to lease or buy a portion of the yard for their own operations. The remaining track will be torn up so CSX will have a reduction in the amount of taxes they pay. Both yard offices in South Philly and Wilmington already have contracts in place for demolition for the same reason .....tax reductions. CSX is waiting for the consolidation of the yardmasters at RG tower. For the road guys at RG.........serious, very serious discussions about road trains with just the engineer. CSX people have already been talking to Amtrak, both in Washington, DC and Wilmington,DE. about how to implememnt it. Their plan is to put one utility man (12 hour shifts) at Manville with a company vechicle to help any train that is in trouble. I would urge all of you to think very hard about what is going to happen. The unions will be unable to stop this. If you dont believe me.......look at RR history. Sorry for the information.........but information is power.

Name: C&O JOE E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 19 January 2009 Hey webmaster, Post 85 make the same money, we just arnt guaranteed as much. Don't get as many claims, but they don't pay them anyway. I know lots of post 85 guys that make 80 even 90 grand.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 19 January 2009 Lemonhead, No one got to any oldhead. Ya'll don't seem to know schidt. Retirement is based on averages one being the last 5 years of employment. I'm at that stage in my railroad life my last 5 years I'll work more to earn more in retirement. That's if I don't decide to go out on a disability seeing none of my ex-wives get their stipend I'm pretty much working for nothing. Wish me luck ya'll can have my seniority when or if I decide to get that disability. With the way the railroad is changing with it's local management that is ignorant by no fault of their own except becoming management without any lack of experience to run a railroad it's not a nice place to be anymore. Fortunately I remember the days when trainmasters and road foremen were respected men who wore suits and ties and we called them mister out of respect. Those days are long gone. Today 100% rules compliance is a great thing it fills my bank account every pay day. I'll be happy to have you try to fill my shoes or any oldheads when we retire, but you better get some newspaper there big shoes to fill and ya'll will never fit in them. When we leave a lot of railroad experience and knowledge goes with us.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 19 January 2009 to the conductor with less than a year. if work donot pick up and you are furlouged for a couple of years please come back to work and see if you think IT is still a HAHAHAHAHA.I DONOT FEEL FOR YOU BUT ALL THE OTHERS THAT IS OFF I DO SO HOPE THIS IS NOT THE CASE FOR MOST OF THE YOUNG EMPLOYEES DOES NOT HAVE YOUR SINce of thinking.in the mean time have a good vacation.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 19 January 2009 It appears to me that the 43 year old really got to YOU guys, what a bunch of fucking losers................hahahahahahaha

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 19 January 2009 when you get furlouged let the people that you have been working with know that you will paint their house trim their bushes cut their grass just work some for the employees that is still working for most of them has a lot for you to do. i know every year or two i hired these people that i worked with when they were cut off. however when i was cut off i was just sorry and didnot look for any thing to do.donnot be like me.it not too bad being cut off a little while but i saw people cut off for years not months and almost everyone came back when called some of the peole will tell you not to take a call off the cut off board but if you get a call for making a trip i say make it for your insurance if not for the money donot listern to the ones that says donnot work for next week then the r.r. will add turns well they will not the trains will just sat untill tomorrow and you will miss a chance to have your insurance extended.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 19 January 2009 Employers are loathe to hire furloughed workers, whether railroad, auto or any other unionized trade. Learn how to tend bar...they make good money and you meet all kinds of people you can network with. Besides, bars are recession proof...the worse thinks get, the more we drink!

Name: MT E-mail: Employed as: Engine repair, for 20-30 years Posted: 18 January 2009 Goober is full of s--t i was layed off for 2 yrs and tryed getting many part time jobs and no one would hire me esp when you told them you were a layed off railroader, They know dam well you are going to run back to the railroad in a instant.

Name: Goober E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 18 January 2009 Just a word to the wise. furlough means get a job! Do not sit at home burning thru the cash that you have. Take any job, and you will be glad that you did. look for the burger flipping place, many of you could flip for a while, and run the place before the RR calls you back. Walmart hires folks every day, Be a greeter and in a few years you can run the store at 100k a year. Sign on for the midnight shift at Quick Trip stores, yep might take a little longer to get a store, however it pays 75k a year. Get a Job never sit around and wait, you will lose everything that you have. GOOFY-----------This is hard work, regular hours, and less pay. Need to step up to it, or just say no.
Webmaster comment: $100K/yr at wally-world??? $75K/yr at a convenience store??? What are you smoking, Goob??? Anyone who hired on to the RR after '85 is unlikely to ever make that much even on the RR.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 18 January 2009 thanks Wildman for the input.......I know its comming, got an e-mail from a trainee over near richmond va and he said they called all the trainees to a meeting and the ones that were at home away terminals to d/h back for the meeting and the cut all of them earlier today. He said he has been on the ojt for 12 weeks. he was told that they will let them know something by end of the year. I understand about the vaction thing and have to bide my time til some retire. just hope its not for along time.

Name: Wildman E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 18 January 2009 To cond < 1 year; This time of year always brings furloughs.If you are about to leave the training program I would say yes,expect to be laid off.It will be temporary but that don't pay the bill due now.Sorry to hear about the time off but it does happen and is a fact of life in any industrial job.The white collar sector calls it "downsizing" but the end result is worse,you pretty much get fired and have to look for work at a whole different company. Don't worry though,as soon as the weather changes and vac's start you'll be back to work! Just stay in there.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 18 January 2009 anyone hear anything at the russell yard as to furloughs? and what about temp transfers being at your home terminal, can you be furloughed if they are still there? Supposed to be marked up in 1 week and already thinking that i'm going to be furloughed

Name: E-mail: fitzgerald ga Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 17 January 2009 to the 1 to 10 condr. if your age is 43 and you have been working 5 years then when you get 60 years old you will be lucky to have in 20 years with the r.r. this is a long time for the employees to have to work with such a dummy.your retirement will be aout 60 PERCENT THIS IS WHEN YOU COULD RETIRE BUT WITH ALL RESPECT TO YOU I CANNOT BELEIVE THAT YOU WILL RETIRE 17 YEARS FROM NOW YOU WILL THINK OF ALL THE SMART ASS REMARKS YOU ARE MAKING NOW ABOUT THE OLDER EMPLOYEES WHO YOU ARE WORKING ALONE SIDE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MADE AMENDS TO ALL THE OLD HEADS WORKING HERE. BY THE WAY I AM RETIRED SO I GUESS YOU ARE NOT HOPING I DIE BECAUSE I AM DRAWING RETIREMENT.THINK A LITTLE BEFORE YOU POST.BY THE WAY MY WIFES INSURANCEIS OVER 700.00 DOLLARS A MONTH I DONOT HAVE ANYTHING BUT MEDICARE I FOR ONE CAN SEE WHY A LOT OF PEOPLE WORKS ON PAST 60 YEARS OLD. I AM ONE OF THE LUCKy ONES I HAVENOT BEEN SICK OR TO A DR IN 15Yearsso please donot wish me to die.i know you have no familly or friends working with the r.r. or you would not be so bitter you have a long time to go try to change.

Name: wildman E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 17 January 2009 Cond.1-10; Haah Haa! Looks like I got under your thin skin! 43 years old and an attitude like yours isn't going to get you anywhere.As us oldheads laugh at you for whining,you dig yourself into a hole of ignorance.You've shown weakness now you're open to attack! One thing we all learned early is,"no matter what is said to you you never let anyone know it bothered you or you'll never live it down"! You don't say why you're so bitter.Is it because you saw a train at a crossing one day and the conductor had his feet up? Could it have been some cool guy with a CSX jacket and you wanted to be "like him" someday? Might have been at the grocery store and the guy with the CSX jacket paid with a credit card that wasn't declined.Maybe it was the guy down the street who paid his house off early and bought the new Corvette that brought you into the CSX family! Fourty three years old and still crying into an empty towel.How sad that nobody told you when you hired out that we (old heads) don't really care! Why didn't you go to the local railyard and talk to some of my fellow employees? We would have given you the lowdown on what it takes to work here. Now show your true stupidity and answer back! The last line in the paragraph you see when you write these jewels of info is kinda' wrong.It should read " When you get done arguing with an idiot,they're still an idiot"! In this case I'll let the rest of the posters make the decision on who's the idiot.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 17 January 2009 CSX 29.88 -0.30 -0.99% 3,408,129 346.47% Get mental help. There are good drugs for you problem, you whining, sniffling bitch. Haven't you got the mentality to make a living until you get recalled. Everyone is tired of your shit. There are very few that have ever worked in T&E that haven't been cut off, some for years.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 1-10 years Posted: 17 January 2009 Like I said before, It's obvious from your attitude that Dad and Mom didn't whip your ass enough when you were growing up. Plenty of people, RR or not, that are out of work right now. With that kind of volatile temper, you don't need to be working anywhere. I believe you probably have a host of other personal problems (debt, drinking, divorce??, child support, gambling debt???, cheating wife, bitching wife) and are using the RR as something to vent on. Calm down, Hoss, or else you will either have a heart attack, stroke, or blow up at the wrong person and get your ass capped.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 17 January 2009 hey fuckstick wildman, I had a "real" job since I was 14 years old, now 43 and 5 yrs on the railroad, I can see that greed is the driving force behing the "oldheads" that work extra EVERY chance they get while we have 45 (give or take) that are on the streets. So if you are so inclined to work an extra month to hurt anyone I hope your last trip on an engine will be the last thing you ever see you greedy mother fucker!!!

Name: Wildman E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 17 January 2009 Cond 1-10: Just how stupid are you? You whine about being furloughed when I'm sure you were warned about this pitfall before you got marked up.What did you do,take on a car payment? I know you were told not to buy anything you didn't have cash for. As far as "retire or die" I'm going to wait another month to go just because of that comment.How's that smart guy? You need to get a real job.You think the RR is bad,how about one where you have NO job protection? The manager comes in one day with his nephew and gives him a job and cuts your hours to boot.I figure a job at a local shopping mall,so you can hang out with your punk ass friends while on your break,would be a good fit for someone like yourself. At least I knew how to live when I got furloughed.It was the early eighties and the clubs and bars were in full swing.I sold dope to make party money and had a good time doing it.When some of that eighties music comes on the radio I still have flashbacks.It's a wonder I didn't end up in prison or dead but we all did it back then and didn't give it a second thought.Unfortunately some of us did both of the affore mentioned things. If you hadn't taken on too much debt you could enjoy your time off instead of whimpering about it.And quit wishing us dead,it only pisses us old heads off and,in my case anyway,will add time to your furlough.

Name: E-mail: fitzgerald ga Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 16 January 2009 we have 45 conductors in furlouged status now and expecting 5 more tomorrow. in the meantime we have several in training who will be 50 times out before they have a job to work. this is c s x way of doing things today i guess they are looking out for tomorrow. i donot feel like the two or three people who is old enough to retire will help very much. we also have about 10 to 15 employees run off for rule violation donot look for them to get back any time soon.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: CSX Customer, for N/A Posted: 16 January 2009 tomorrow FRIDAY WILL BE THE DAY C S X STOCK CLOSE IN TWENTY DOLLAR RANGE. REMEMBER IN SEPT WHEN IT WAS 59 i said take some off table again when it got to 45 when ward sold his and again at 38 well i must say it was a lucky guess. c s x just wrote out 500 millions dollars in bonds they probably looking for obama to help the r.r. pay some of their debt ever body else is.the r.r. is through price gouching their customers for fuel sur charge acct of the class action suit against several top r.r.the profits has got to fall.

Name: Darren Owens E-mail: Alcoholics Anonymous Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 16 January 2009 Billy Jack you are the reason I tired into an alcoholic cocaine abuser! It was not my fault I was too fucking stupid to become an engineer. My drinking and drug abuse was somebody elses fault. Screw you!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 16 January 2009 All furloughed employees should apply and work the night shift at the local adult bookstore. At least you would have your dignity back. you will never have any dignity as a man working for CSX.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 16 January 2009 to the conductor 1 to 10 years who has a death wish for all the old conductors and engineers. i am retired now so maybe i am not in your death wish. i have seen a few people like you and they turned out to be pimps who told lies and everything they could on people they worked with that was older in seniority so that they would get them in trouble or fired by your action you seem to be one of these people. your time will come and no one will be there for you so be carefull what you wish for. very few people with your attitude every get very far working out here.the men working cares no more for you than the r.r. it will not take long for the trainmasters and higher ups to know who you are so injoy what time you have left working out here.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 16 January 2009 Wannabe Cond 1-10, Never wish on anyone what you wouldn't want for yourself. Hope they didn't find you dead this morning.

Name: Billy Jack E-mail: Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 20-30 years Posted: 15 January 2009 As a dedicated CSX official, I am delighted to see the division in the Union T&E employee ranks. Ya'll make it so easy for us to do and keep our jobs. It's not that the company is out to get you; ya'll get fired for being stupid and/or lazy. If you don't like CSX- then quit...otherwise, shut your hole! Have a safe CSX day now- ya hear?

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 15 January 2009 To all of the old fucks............retire or die, if you are still out here after 30+ years get a fucking life. You will be the same assholes that say "WOW, I can't believe he is dead, seems like just yesterday he retired." TAKE the clue asshole, life is NOT forever!!!!!

Name: Train Dispatcher E-mail: Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 10-20 years Posted: 14 January 2009 Hang on, your WAITING for a call to be furloughed? did I read that correct? (so your not furloughed?) You are a little more fortunate than some other conductors out here (including my brother) who is still looking for work. (just like last year)

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 1-10 years Posted: 14 January 2009 Hence the problem with the "new railroaders". It's the same as the rest of the country and a problem that is self perpetuating. IT'S ALL ABOUT ME....WHAT I WANT.....WHEN I WANT IT.....HOW MUCH I WANT....HOW LONG I WANT IT.....WHAT'S MINE IS MINE AND WHAT'S YOURS IS MINE IF I CAN GET IT.....AND EVERYBODY ELSE BE DAMNED. One would think furloughs were just created. Manufucturing and orders for goods are down. Less raw and finished goods means less goods to move and less trains to move them. Even without overhiring, there will still be furloughs. Instead of bashing and disrespecting these old heads, you need to start learning from them.....the stuff they don't teach you at the REDI. They can teach you how to railroad safe....AND...efficient. They went through everything you are going through and they figured out how to make it and still build a nest egg!! If he wants to work till he's 70 or 75 and is able to do so.....who the hell are you to put him down?!! Rather have them running trains than an overgrown six year old. Damn, man!!! You act like you are the only one in the world who has it hard right now. Look around, then count your blessings. But, oh yeah, I'll reread my first paragraph. It's obvious your parents didn't whip your ass enough when you were growing up.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 14 January 2009 Hey Nincompoop, Cond 1-10 an I use the term conductor lightly. If I could retire I'd be gone dumb arse. I might have my time in just not age to retire you schidt for brains crybaby wanna be. Quit snivling like a little girl. I hope your wife or Mother is compassionate enough to let you use their shoulder to cry on it's the only sympathy you'll get if the wife hasn't left your snivling arse. Or, mabey your Father would like to kick the schidt out of you for being such a wimp. Boo Fucking Hoo!!!! Sissy-boy.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 14 January 2009 TO the conductor that has a bad attitude that is looking to get furlouged.if you do get furlouged and have to go out and get a real job maybe at walmart your attitude will for surely change. you will know what it is like to work for pnuts with no insurance. i am now retired but when i started i saw people on the cut off board for as much as 6 to 7 years but when they got called they came back to the r.r. i really do hope that this is not the same for all the people that is furlouged. just because i had it bad at times i do not wish the same for you men for a lot has changed.if your attitude is bad and you say may get worse then you will never put in enough time to retire.when you are hired now the r.r. hires people to fire you at the same time your days or years are probably short. the r.r is a good job you just have to put up with a lot bull shit. to many rules to follow and anyone can be caught any time doing wrong by their rules enjoy your time with the r.r. it may be short.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 14 January 2009 engineer 30+ i got something i wish you would get thru your thin crainum why dont you admitt your old fucking ass in a retirement center and let someone feed your stupid ass PLEASE RETIRE YOU OLD FUCKERS!!!!! IM TIRED OF SEEING YALL OUT HERE

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 14 January 2009 What's earnings have to do with your anticipating being furloughed? If you don't have trains there's no work it's a simple concept. Just like any other industry no orders no production. I wish you people would get it through your thin craniums.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 14 January 2009 Congratulations CSX... your 4th quarter earnings report showed everything up over last year, even in these tough economic times. I, in the meantime, am waiting for the call informing me that I have been furloughed. I have just one thing to say... if you think my attitude was bad before, just wait til I get that call to come back!!!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 14 January 2009 If I move that freight it's called doing my job. Nothing more nothing less. I've survived over 31 years of this railroad starting on the former C&O. I have nothing to be ashamed of only thing I have is pride knowing we did a good job. Some people can't handle it obviously the last poster was one of those that coudn't handle it an it was a wise move on his part to get out. This life isn't for everyone there's no need for name calling. I hope your next endevour in life brings success and prosperity. That it gives you peace of mind. That you find happiness with your family. But, don't critize those who were tough enough to handle this lifestyle. It makes you seem like a bitter fool.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 12 January 2009 Hey C&O Joe, Friend .....you are the pussy for not educating yourself for a job that you can have pride and dignity in doing. Life is about choices and you choose to stay in WV and work for CSX. It must make you feel really warm and fuzzy knowing you moved 100 railcars for bosses that consider you to be nothing more than an endentured servent. They know you will jump when they say jump.......no questions asked. You will just walk away with your orders and call them names behind their backs. If you stood up to them face to face like a real man, you know they will retailate. You would lose your job. So like the rest of the sheep you go along and do as your told.........like a little bitch. How sad when your friends and family are talking about the great time they had at your kids birthday party. Hopefully they made a video of it. You of course ....like the pussy you are...wouldn't mark off sick for the party. CSX could cause you trouble for taking time off. I'll bet Ward, Ingram and your trainmasters dont miss times like that with their families. My kids are proud that I am their dad and spend time with them. My kids were sad when I worked for CSX.......never knowing if I was going to be home for their play, football, baseball or other events. Now I make the time because I am not in fear of losing my job. I can always find a job making good money because I choose to get the skill sets I needed not to live in fear. I thought long and hard before I quit. I only have so many heartbeats, AND I DONT WANT TO GO TO WORK BITTER, MAD AND IN FEAR of some officer or conductor losing my job for me. I had pride in my job, CSX does not reward pride in a doing good job. I had faith in my fellow workers until they wouldnt stand up and tell the truth. I had faith in my bosses, until they told one to many lies. I had faith that I would get a days pay for a days work. CSX as a company will not treat you as a man........it doesn't have to. They treat you as the scared little boy that you are.....living in fear. Fear of being fired or worse terminated. CSX knows the unions wont back you at any monkey trial they hold on your behalf. I believe that a man should make his own destiny......you dont. Your life is totally defined by what you do......working for CSX and believing what they unions say. (EX. The SSA is a great agreement). Your life should be defined by who you are and how you live your life. I made a choice ......to live by my rules, not CSX's. So I quit. That doesnt make me a pussy. That makes me a thinking man and not a sheep. Bitching may be what railroaders do, but real men don't. What other company do you know that has employes needing an alternate web site such as this? Ever see IBMsucks.com or Fordsucks.com. Real men do what makes thier life and the lives of others better. When you live life like that you can be proud of what you do for work, family, friends and the commmunity. So live and work in WV work for CSX, that's your choice. My choice is to follow a better road.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 12 January 2009 CSX Customer I think your right about the stock or I made one heck of a mistake and sold off 80% of my holdings at a small lost. I did notice on insiders trade news TCI sold off a schidt load of CSX stock so has several other hedge funds. I figured get out now then if it bottoms out to the high teens or low'20s buy it back.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: CSX Customer, for N/A Posted: 11 January 2009 HELLO ALL YOU c s x stock holders i look for C S X TO TAKE A BIG DROP MONDAY.HOPE YOU TOOK SOME OFF THE TABLE. BY THE WAY THE SKY IS NOT FALLING JUST c s x.STOCK.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 11 January 2009 What is going on rail roaders, i am interested in true honest information about working in newport news va as a track worker, i need to know the real deal, what is it like, working conditions, the location, people, the job, and of course fulough. To all rail roaders i want to thank yall, because you guys are the back bone of America, thanks.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 11 January 2009 Hey Retired: You're right...in industrial environments 5% of the people are responsible for 95% of the accidents and injuries, that leaves 95% of the people to cause the other 5% of the accidents and injuries!

Name: retired E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 11 January 2009 TO Lloud. i worked for 40 years and the only people who has it made on easy street is those few people that got at least one or more big settlements from the r.r. the rest of the employees get by just ok.i was not as smart as a lot that got big pay off i knew some that got three or more as much as a million dollars. one condr i had in mind was 60 years old and got hit by a bush he fell got a good settlement because he said he had to work on for 10 years he hurt his back got 900,000.00 dollars could not ride a engine any more but went out and bought a tractor that he could set on without hurting 100.000,00he is now doing real good.i guess riding on a tractor does not hurt sine he has all this money in his mocket.this is one reason the r.r. is so hard on personal injuries. only about five persent of the people get hurt that works and they usually get more than one injury only about one out of five is really hurt enough to get these big pay off.they were and are just smarter than i was.i am sure that you see the same thing at every terminal.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 10 January 2009 Lloyd No one is critizing. We just are encouraging them to see how ridicules they seem to be. How a supposedly grown person is acting like a child throwing a temper tantrum. CSX isn't a mandatory obligation everyone has a right to excersise free will. If people "Hate it" so much leave it's that simple. No, they want to come on websites like this and hope someone will be their shoulder to cry on. Boo Fucking Hoo!!!!!!!! It has nothing to do with oldheads paying the price. In fact we tried that method of stating most everyone goes through hardships when starting out. But, then it go unheeded in fact insults are thrown at us who have been out here before most of you were even a glimmer in your father eyes. Show some respect.

Name: Goober E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 09 January 2009 lloyd; Sorry, I will try to do better everytime that I post on this CSX Suck's site, and make sure that I only post on the correct topic each and every time that I come hear to post an opinion, or comment. Get a life, ask a question if you do not understand, I will clean it up just for you. GOOFY

Name: Lloyd E-mail: Employed as: M of W, for Less than 1 year Posted: 09 January 2009 Pretty funny how everyone who criticizes the conductor out of Hamlet either has 30 plus years or doesn't even work for CSX. Pretty simple to do now that you are livin on easy street isn't it. NEWS FLASH- this site is supposed to be for people to bitch and complain about their experiences and what is wrong with CSX as a whole. We all understand you guys have made your sacrifices and you have had your ups and downs but you could have a little bit of compassion for people who are going through shit now instead of bashing them. Goober- please try to make more sense when you post. I'm not real sure whether its the fact you don't want to make complete sentences or if its that you are just to lazy fingered to type any more than you have to. Seriously, sometimes it would just be nice to kinda get a grasp on what you are trying to point out.

Name: Goober E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 09 January 2009 Hamlet Conductor was going to pull the Big slice on life. 50k now, Conductor make 65k. Pay up 5k go to school now we are at 60k. Hell Dam make a fortune. Real world 50k is a ???? 5k for school most likely happened. finds out Conductor does not make 65k, more like 50k, or says goodbye to everyone for a year, and the real RR life kicks in. Yep he is a foamer, and only a daylight foamer at that. He thinks daytime is for working and nighttime is for sleeping, and weekends are for relaxing. I wish him WELL GOOFY

Name: Wildman E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 09 January 2009 Hamlet; Oh BOO HOO. If you had come here before you started your career you might have found out that railroadin' ain't for the faint of heart.A good friend summed it up in a simple line "if it wasn't aggravating,they wouldn't pay you for doing it"! Gave up a $50,000 per year job? You weren't smart enough to do this job anyway so it's probably good that you gave it up.I agree that you must have been a buff or you wouldn't have done something that ignorant. I've said it before and am going to say it again.This place isn't for everybody.It's demanding,can ruin your family life,friends dissapear,your health can suffer,the weather is either too hot or cold,and phones ringing can make you jump out of your hide.The BIG money is for those who live on the job but you can make a good living for yourself just by staying marked up. Management does make some,,,strange,,,decisions but they usually work themselves out due to the employee's creativity. Now go and bitch no more.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 09 January 2009 Hamlet You sound just like the TRAGIC STORY. If you gave up a $50,000 a year job you were either a rail buff or a fool. I tend to think rail buff. Which rail buff's don't make good railroaders because their blinded by their hobby. The grass isn't always green on the otherside. You started off at 85% wages you agreed to those conditions. You definitely weren't a seasoned railroad veteran most likely the engineer saved your arse numerous times. Overtime you might of caught on to the job then it takes years to experience every aspect. Why complain now? Be a man/woman and live with the choices you made. Quit crying over spilled milk.

Name: Hamlet Conductor E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 08 January 2009 I would just like to say that in 2006, I thought I wanted to work for the "Railroad". So.... I dropped my $50,000.00 annual salary job only to give $5,000.00 and three months of my life to CSX to go to school and train to be a "CONDUCTOR"....Oh! the benefits are great!!! They pay you 85% of what a "seasoned" conductor makes, even though you carry the same responsibility!,They give you 30 shares of stock for every year you work ( It's on paper....you cant touch it till your of retirement age...so it's useless...just like the management! ) They send you monthly letters from the "DUMBASS" boss Michael Ward, telling you how much money the company has made, and how "HE" really appreciates your efforts when it comes to safety and efficiency....and then in the same breath....tells his "Peeons" we need to furlough!!!! From the inside looking inside!!!!! I've never seen a company.....and I've worked for more than one.....that is sooo mismanaged by a bunch of "DUMBASSES". I thought my government was giving me a good "FUCKING".....well me and several others were sadly mistaken! I would hate to know I was one of the "BLIND MOTHER FUCKERS" setting on the board of directors watching all this shit go down!!!!!!!The people that run "CSX" are over payed and as usless as "TITS ON A BOAR HOG" This is for you-Michael Ward (just happens to be "GAY"!)

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 08 January 2009 Quit your f...ing whining and just quit. There are other RR and other jobs. I quit with over 10 years........could not be happier.....weekends off, time with family ..etc. Just quit.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 08 January 2009 The lawyer cost might seem like a lot. If you are convicted of a DUI under the CSX EAP you could lose up to 8-12 months work or longer depends on the EAP counsilor who has to much power with their recommendations that is easily a $10,000-$15,000 or more lose of income. Lawyers bargain all the time for clients with the county prosecutors for reduction of charges. Do some checking on good attorneys in your area. Like I stated their not cheap. There was another person on here a few years ago everyone told him to report the DUI to CSX before he went court. I was the only one who told him to wait till being convicted in court turns out his charges were reduced and non-reportable to the railroad. I saved him a lot of grief. Which a conviction is a lot of grief because CSX owns you to a certian degree.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 08 January 2009 Have you been to court and convicted of the alleged DUI? If not there are ways of getting out of it, but it cost $$$. How much do you have to spend on an attorney? Could you afford up to $2500-$5000? Explain to the attorney the ramifications of a conviction with your job. It could be reduced to a lessor charge (reckless driving ect...) you would/could pay a price like fines, restricted/suspended license, alcohol counciling ect... DO NOT REPORT IT TO THE RAILROAD TILL CONVICTED OF THE CHARGE. It only counts against you on the railroad if convicted. If you've already been to court and convicted then you must report it to the CSX EAP (Employee Assistance Program). The railroad will find out when you go to recertification anyways. If you hadn't reported the conviction before recert your in a lot of trouble. Under the EAP you'll be taken out of service for up to 8 weeks under a Rule G violation. You won't lose your job if this is your first time. You'll use the one bypass the EAP will determine what coucilling you need wether inpatient or out patient. You'll go to AA. You'll be subjected to short notice drug/alcohol screens for up to 5 years. You'll still have a job.

Name: C&O JOE E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 07 January 2009 Obviously J.P. dosn't realize that in order to be woken up you must first be asleep. A lot can happen in that 30 seconds and if your worn out enough, there's no guarantee that alerter will wake you up. It's nothing to see one muffled with toilet paper or even one that dosn't make a noise at all and only flashes. Didn't you say in a previous post you were 13? Shouldn't you be spending your time jacking off to hannah montana or studying for your spelling test? Go back to Disney.com where the other little kids admire your smart ass comments and lack of knowlage of the subject matter.

Name: SHIT E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 07 January 2009 HEY GOT A DUI.. SHOULD I REPORT IT TO THEM OR NOT???? WHAT WILL THEY DO TO ME??? HELP

Name: J.P. E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for N/A Posted: 07 January 2009 Well first of all sleeping at the wheel can't happen because there is a buzzer that goes off and they have 30 seconds to hit it or the trains brakes apply and stop the train. come on everybody knows that. it's used to keep them awake.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 07 January 2009 does anybody know what came about with the new hire entry rates? I thought we was suppose to know something at the beginning of the year

Name: Wildman E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 07 January 2009 Shan; Here's a link to a list of designated legal counsel. http://www.utu.org/worksite/counsel.htm

Name: Goober E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 06 January 2009 Shan, Labor attorneys are always available. Simple as a phone call. Good Luck. GOOFY

Name: Shan E-mail: ShannonSWalker@Katyisd.org Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 06 January 2009 While my husband was NOT an employee of CSX he was one for UP. He was dismissed after one mistake (and owning up to it) and never having a blemish on his record for 7 yrs and several others have done far worse than he and were put back to work within days of committing their offense. Also, the jerk that turned him in had harrassed him since day one and we have documentation where it was requested that some kind of formal reprimand was done to take care of this and of course, NOTHING WAS DONE !! We have had a claim filed with BRS for 2.5 yrs and nothing has happened with it. It is still in arbitration. Anyone have any suggestions for filing a suit or getting an attorney??? What should our next step be, we only have until July and then they dismissed it all together form what we understand. He is a great signalmen with alot of backpay owed to him !! God Bless and thank you very much for any help you can provide.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 04 January 2009 on my last post i made an errow instead of 60 years old to retire you had to be 65 years old.the r.r. is still a good job if the boss would just quit trying to get something on each and everyone this keeps morale of everyone in a bad mood.also we could make as little as 120 days to qualify for a vacation it has double that now.if you donot get to work for about six or seven months you will not qualify for a vacation.you could have your retirement fund paid in by Nov today you are lucky and must work your ass off to get retirement fund by the end of the year.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 04 January 2009 to the young conductors that are furloughed. i am retired now thank goodness after 42 years SErvice. when i hired out the r.r. was a real good job but time has change all that. we had no gurantee extra board sometimes we even made as much as 600 miles a half maybe 200.00 DOLLARS OUR EXTRA BOARD WAS FULL NO CUTTING BECAUSE THE R.R. DID NOT HAVE TO PAY SOMEONE TO SIT AT HOME SINCE THE R.R. HAS GOT A GURANTEE BOARD THEY REGULATE THE BOARD. THE OLD MEN IS NOT THE REASON THAT ALL OF YOU IS NOT WORKING IT IS BECAUSE THE R.R. GOT ON A HIRING SPREE AND DID NOT KNOW WHEN TO QUIT AND STILL HIRING PEOPLE TO WORK WHEN THEY ARE EMPLOYEES WITH OVER 3 YEARS SERVICE CUT OFF. THE R.R. IS IN THE PROCESS OF JUST FIRING EMPLOYEES BUT IF YOU WILL NOTICE WHEN THEY DO THE R.R. DOES NOT ADD ANOTHER PERSON TO THE EXTRA BOARD THE SAME IS TRUE WHEN ONE OR TWO EMPLOYEES RETIRE.WHEN I HIRED OUT YOUR TRAINMASTER AND ROAD FOREMAN WAS HIRED TO HELP EMPLYEES NOW IT IS RIGHT THE OTHER WAY THEY ARE HIRED TO FIRE YOU FOR ANY AND EVERY LITTLE RULE YOU DO WRONG.THIS MAY BE THE ONLY JOB I KNOW OF THAT THE R.R.HIRE YOU THEN THEY HIRE SOMEONE TO FIRE YOU. YOU COULD NOT RETIRE UNTILL YOUR REACH YOUR 60TH BIRTHDAY AND ALMOST EVERYONE WORKED UNTIL 70 YEARS OF AGE ACCT MOST OF THEM HAD BEEN CUT OFF SO MUCH SOMETIMES AS MUCH AS 5 YEARS.EVEN WITH ALL THIS WE HAD IT GOOD.NO LODGING NO TAXIE NO MEALS ALLOWANCE AT ALL ALL DEADHEADING WAS DONE ON TRAINS.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 02 January 2009 Kuhner is still in Chicago in charge of the transit dept.

Name: C&O JOE E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 01 January 2009 Anyone have the details on Scott Kuhners being fired in Chicago? Rumor has it he's coming back to Yardmaster at Huntington.

Name: Goober E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 31 December 2008 Just read it thru and make your own determination. I am sending this as info for those that do not understand debt or the union concept. The UAW and GM will both go down=== both sides loose. POOR MGT and POOR UNION. Both working hand in hand. GOOFY Abridged letter from Troy Clarke, President of General Motors - followed >by a response from , Gregory Knox: > >Dear Employee, > >Next week, Congress and the current Administration will determine >whether to provide immediate support to the domestic auto industry to >help it through one of the most difficult economic times in our nation's >history. Your elected officials must hear from all of us now on why this >support is critical to our continuing the progress we began prior to the >global financial crisis. As an employee, you have a lot at stake and >continue to be one of our most effective and passionate voices.? I know >GM can count on you to have your voice heard. > >Thank you for your urgent action and ongoing support. > >Troy Clarke President General Motors North America > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >>From Gregory Knox, > >In response to your request to call legislators and ask for a bailout >for the United States automakers please consider the following, and >please also pass this onto Troy Clark, the president of General Motors >North America for me. > >You are both infected with the same entitlement mentality that has bred >like cancerous germs in UAW halls for the last countless decades, and >whose plague is now sweeping the nation, awaiting our new "messiah" to >wave his magical wand and make all our problems go away, while at the >same time allowing our once great nation to keep "living the dream"? > >The dream is over! > >The dream that we can ignore the consumer for years while management >myopically focuses on its personal rewards packages at the same time >that our factories have been filled with the worlds most overpaid, >arrogant, ignorant and laziest entitlement minded "laborers" without >paying the price for these atrocities?and that still the masses will >line up to buy our products > >Don't tell me I'm wrong. Don't accuse me of not knowing of what I >speak. I have called on Ford,GM ,Chrysler,TRW, Delphi ,Kelsey Hayes, >American Axle and countless other automotive OEM's and Tier ones for 3 >decades now throughout the Midwest and what I've seen over the years in >these union shops can only be described as disgusting. > >Mr Clark, the president of General Motors, states: > >There is widespread sentiment in this country, our government and >especially in the media that the current crisis is completely the result >of bad management. It is not. > >You're right. It's not JUST management. How about the electricians who >walk around the plants like lords in feudal times, making people wait on >them for countless hours while they drag ass, so they can come in on the >weekend and make double and triple time for a job they easily could have >done within their normal 40 hour week ? > >How about the line workers who threaten newbies with all kinds of scare >tactics for putting out too many part s on a shift, and for being too >productive (mustn't expose the lazy bums who have been getting overpaid >for decades for their horrific underproduction, must we?!?!? Do you >really not know about this stuff?!? > >How about this great sentiment abridged from Mr. Clarke's sad plea: > >Over the last few years, we have closed the quality and efficiency gaps >with our competitors. > >What the hell has Detroit been doing for the last 40 years?!? > >Did we really JUST wake up to the gaps in quality and efficiency between >us and them? > >The K car vs. the Accord? > >The Pinto vs. the Civic?!? > >Do I need to go on? > >We are living through the inevitable outcome of the actions of >the United States auto industry for decades. > >Time to pay for your sins, Detroit . > >I attended an economic summit last week where a brilliant economist, >Alan Beaulieu surprised the crowd when he said he would not have given >the banks a penny of "bailout money". Yes, he said, this would cause >short term problems, but despite what people like George Bush and Troy >Clark would have us believe, the sun would, in fact, rise the next >day. And something else would happen where there had been greedy and >sloppy banks new efficient ones would pop up. That is how a free market >system works- it does work if we would let it work. > >But for some reason we are now deciding that the rest of the world is >right and that capitalism doesn't work - that we need the government to >step in and "save us". Save us, hell ! We're nationalizing; and >unfortunately *too many of this once fine nations citizens don't even >have a clue that this is what's really happening. But they sure can tell >you the stats on their favorite sports teams - yeah ? THAT'S important?* >Does it occur to ANYONE that the "competition" has been producing >vehicles, EXTREMELY PROFITABLY, for decades now in this country?... > >How can that be??? > >Let's see? > >Fuel efficient ? > >Listening to customers? > >Investing in the proper tooling and automation for the long haul? > >Not being too complacent or arrogant to listen to Dr W Edwards Deming 4 >decades ago > >Ever increased productivity through quality, lean and six sigma plans? > > >Treating vendors like strategic partners, rather than like "the enemy"? > >Efficient front and back offices? > >Non union 'DejaVu Sans Mono'"? > >Again, I could go on and on, but I really wouldn't be telling anyone >anything they really don't already know in their hearts. > >I have six children, so I am not unfamiliar with the concept of wanting >someone to bail you out of a mess that you have gotten yourself into. My >children do this on a weekly, if not daily basis, as I did at their age. >I do for them what my parents did for me (one of their greatest gifts, >by the way). I make them stand on their own two feet and accept the >consequences of their actions and work them through. > >Radical concept, huh? > >Am I there for them in the wings? Of course. But only until such time as >they need to be fully on their own as adults. > >I don't want to oversimplify a complex situation, but there certainly >are unmistakable parallels here between the proper role of parenting and >government. > >Detroit and the United States need to pay for their sins. > >Bad news people. !!! It's coming whether we like it or not. > >The newly elected Messiah really doesn't have a magic wand big enough to >"make it all go away". I laughed as I heard Obama "reeling it back in" >almost immediately after the vote count was tallied. "We might not do it >in a year." Where was that kind of talk when he was RUNNING for office? > >Stop trying to put off the inevitable. > >That house in Florida really isn't worth $750,000. > >People who jump across a border really don't deserve free health care >benefits. > >That job driving that forklift for the big 3 really isn't worth $85,000 >a year. > >That couple whose combined income is less than $50,000 really shouldn't >be living in that $485,000 home. > >Let the market correct itself people. it will. Yes it will be painful, >but it's gonna be painful either way, and the bright side of my proposal >is that on the other side of it is a nation that appreciates what it >has, and doesn't live beyond its means and gets back to basics and >redevelops the work ethic that made it the greatest nation in the >history of the world - and probably turns back to God. > >Sorry - don't cut my head off, I'm just the messenger sharing with you >the "bad news". > > >Gregory J Knox >President >Knox Machinery, Inc. >Franklin , Ohio 45005

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 30 December 2008 BOTH OF YOU ENGINEERS ARE 100 percent right untill you get one union nothing is going to change. i was a U T U MEMBER FOR OVER 40 YEARS WHICH I AM SORRY TO SAY FOR THIS UNION WILL SELL ANY AND EVERYTHING THAT COMES THEIR WAY. SOONER OR LATTER THE u t u will go under the sooner the better. all the condr. that get promoted to eng service should join up with the rest of the engineers and as soon as everyone is in engineers promotion then it will become one union. the reason C S X SUCKS IS BECAUSE THE u t u is doing the sucking.have a happy knew year.

Name: Goober E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 28 December 2008 Engineer 1-10 Sleepy is part of the RR. It can be tragic, and has always been a big part of the accidents on the RR. Fresh rested folks will fall asleep. Engineers are required to stay awake, as are drivers of a car, or truck. Riders are bored to tears. Really good reason to have no Conductor, and 2 Engineers that can swap off. GOOFY

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 28 December 2008 Speaking of John Snow, whom is now Chairman of Cerberus Capital, which bought Chrysler from Daimler-Benz. Interesting name Cerberus: http://www.mythweb.com/Encyc/entries/cerberus.html How fitting!

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 28 December 2008 Hey Loco 30+: I tend to agree with your take...Ward wishes he sold the stock at the high, no use crying over spilt milk. "Insiders" will dribble or bleed their stock so the sales don't adversely effect the market price. If Ward had sold his stock as one block on the open market it would've tanked it. The only other way he could have moved a block that big was through a "Private Placement" or in other words, a prearranged sale to an individual or entity. The transaction would still have to be reported to the SEC under Rule 144. I'd hold on until retirement...another 6 or 7 years. A Lot can happen in that time. There is no gain or loss until the stock is sold, In fact, depending on your cost basis, now might be the time to buy some more. TCI/3G have liquidity problems, as do the rest of the Hedges...the risk/reward thing. When you play with fire, you will get burnt. If Moody's downgrades CSX...you may see the stock in the teens. The only way I'd sell is to offset the gains on my other sales :).

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 28 December 2008 I only posted what was made public about Ward's divorce. CSX corporate execs sell stock all the the time. Mabey because their options were running out. Who know's? Who cares? CSX execs would be fools not to cash in with their options of buying stock at a lower price per share and selling high. I would if I had the same. I hope the ex-wife got a fair settlement. If TCI bails out on CSX the stock will hit the bottom like when Snow caused the Conrail scandal of buying it for 5 times what it was worth. If I had that insider knowledge I'd be a fool not to dump my stock. I'm just a small investor in the big picture but it's a big part of my portfolio. Should I take a loss and save what I have? Or wait it out? I heard that when you retire CSX finally gives you a copy of the "Big Picture" which we've heard about for as long as I can remember.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: CSX Customer, for N/A Posted: 28 December 2008 to lo.eng 30years i guess M. ward must have knew of his divorce a long time in advance for he has been getting rid of his stock all year.on JAN 25 HE SOLD 6,058.848 dollars, on MAR 25 SOLD 18,500 SHARES NO AMT LISTED, aug 408 5,177,600.00AT 64.72 WHICH HE PURCHASE AS OPTION SAME DAY AT 20.89 CENT ONLY ABOUT 3ONE HALF MILLION PROFIT. IF HE HAS SOLD ALL HIS STOCK JUST ACCT OF GETTING A DIVORCE YOU NEED TO GO BACK TO SCHOOL.BY THE WAY THE SKY IS NOT FALLING BUT CSX STOCK IS.IF YOU RECALL WHEN THE STOCK WAS 60.00 a share i felt like it was time to take some off the table that was in sept.2008. have a happy new year.

Name: doesnotmatter E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for N/A Posted: 27 December 2008 To:FRA Inspector Employees should be aware, giving negative infomation to a FRA Inspector is not always going too be used against CSX or another Railroad. Some Inspectors are buddies with Management plus CSX can bribe higher up government officials. If you are trying too get your employer in trouble then this might not be such a wise choice. The FRA does not send your paycheck every 2 weeks plus all the other benefits. Remember the kids and wife got too eat. If this site was setup with better website software and format then maybe this could be a forum for improvements. Railroad.net is a nice site and setup well

Name: CSX Blow E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 27 December 2008 I sad hire , I meant FIRE!

Name: CSX Blow E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 27 December 2008 I agree htlong : I just read the the threads and saw the same two posts under every damn section! Well for what its worth CSX didnt give me crap for the holidays except a letter from the man that wants to hire us so badly thanking us for a job well done. Well Mr Ingram since I worked so safe this year you need to pay me my money that you keep taking back. I lived up to my end of the bargin by working safe now live up to yours.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 26 December 2008 That ain't nothin' NOMO. I've seen conductors fall asleep faster than that. Merry Christmas!

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 26 December 2008 Here's an good one... Santa Claus:An Engineers Perspective I. There are approximately two billion children (persons under 18) in the world. However, since Santa does not visit children of Muslim, Hindu, Jewish or Buddhist religions, this reduces the workload for Christmas night to 15% of the total, or 378 million (according to the Population Reference Bureau). At an average (census) rate of 3.5 children per house hold, that comes to 108 million homes, presuming that there is at least one good child in each. II. Santa has about 31 hours of Christmas to work with, thanks to the different time zones and the rotation of the earth, assuming he travels east to west (which seems logical). This works out to 967.7 visits per second. This is to say that for each Christian household with a good child, Santa has around 1/1000th of a second to park the sleigh, hop out, jump down the chimney, fill the stockings, distribute the remaining presents under the tree, eat whatever snacks have been left for him, get back up the chimney, jump into the sleigh and get on to the next house. Assuming that each of these 108 million stops is evenly distributed around the earth (which, of course, we know to be false, but will accept for the purposes of our calculations), we are now talking about 0.78 miles per household; a total trip of 75.5 million miles, not counting bathroom stops or breaks. This means Santa's sleigh is moving at 650 miles per second --- 3,000 times the speed of sound. For purposes of comparison, the fastest man-made vehicle, the Ulysses space probe, moves at a poky 27.4 miles per second, and a conventional reindeer can run (at best) 15 miles per hour. III. The payload of the sleigh adds another interesting element. Assuming that each child gets nothing more than a medium sized Lego set (two pounds), the sleigh is carrying over 500 thousand tons, not counting Santa himself. On land, a conventional reindeer can pull no more than 300 pounds. Even granting that the "flying" reindeer could pull ten times the normal amount, the job can't be done with eight or even nine of them--- Santa would need 360,000 of them. This increases the payload, not counting the weight of the sleigh, another 54,000 tons, or roughly seven times the weight of the Queen Elizabeth (the ship, not the monarch). IV. 600,000 tons traveling at 650 miles per second creates enormous air resistance --- this would heat up the reindeer in the same fashion as a spacecraft re-entering the earth's atmosphere. The lead pair of reindeer would absorb 14.3 quintillion joules of energy per second each. In short, they would burst into flames almost instantaneously, exposing the reindeer behind them and creating deafening sonic booms in their wake. The entire reindeer team would be vaporized within 4.26 thousandths of a second, or right about the time Santa reached the fifth house on his trip. Not that it matters, however, since Santa, as a result of accellerating from a dead stop to 650 m.p.s. in .001 seconds, would be subjected to centrifugal forces of 17,500 g's. A 250 pound Santa (which seems ludicrously slim) would be pinned to the back of the sleigh by 4,315,015 pounds of force, instantly crushing his bones and organs and reducing him to a quivering blob of pink goo. Therefore, if Santa did exist, he's dead now. Merry Christmas!

Name: htlong E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 26 December 2008 I wonder why the webmaster has different forums to post under? when so many idiots post the same post on all forums,it seems it would serve us better and save us time if we just had one forum...for the idiots who have to post the same B.S on every forum .....oh yeah its christmas I have to be nice!....nevermind!!!! merry christmas 79 and sunny here today!......nomo, retirement is the best part of railroading!!!!

Name: fedup E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 25 December 2008 Just would like to know what our beloved company with its record breaking profits got everyone for x-mas? Ill start- notta a fukin thing, warm letter from ward letting me know how Ive contributed to his wealth. we didnt even have a safety dinner, but at least they annulled my job, by the way, by contract, im supposed to be entitled to a 08 claim, i feel confident the utu will get me all these 08's paid for this year, starting to lose hope about the previous years 08 claims, surely my union wont let me down. AND IF YOU DIDNT KNOW...CSX SUCKS AND OUR UNIONS ARE SUCKING THEM!!!!!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Brakeman, for Less than 1 year Posted: 25 December 2008 I am a new employee with csx. I hired out this year and have not been marked up long. I work out of Erwin Tn. I was reporting for work yesterday ( the day before Christmas Eve ) and opened my ears up to a consversation between two employees a trainmaster and the terminal manager. The talk was that all yard switchman positions was going to be cut off at the first of the year. They just installed electronic switches all over the yard I guess is the reason. They are also cutting off all utility and hostler jobs. This will affect me im sure. I knew before coming to work here that there had been guys fourloughd for a long time so i knew there was a chance, but I didnt expect to get hired and then them cutt that many jobs off. My question is does mow employees ever get the fourlough status? does csx ever cut back on trainmasters where the bigger money is? does CSX ever cutt back on crew management or payroll etc. Is it just transportation? You would figure by keeping transportation strong your company would perform more smoothly. Watch out for electronic switches cuting your switchman off at a terminal near you. I cant imagine how this would affect a big terminal considering the damage its going to do to a small terminal like little erwin tn.

Name: C&O JOE E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 23 December 2008 anyone know anything about Dwayne Pelham?

Name: J.P. E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for N/A Posted: 23 December 2008 you guys are dumb asses

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 22 December 2008 Anyone who would invest money based on what Jim Cramer said deserves whet they get...he was the same chump that thought CSX was a bargain at $58 a share!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 20-30 years Posted: 22 December 2008 while you are all talking about TCI..... take a look at this Hedge Fund Hell: CSX Could Derail http://www.thestreet.com/story/10453896/1/hedge-fund-hell-csx-could-derail.html?cm_ven=GOOGLEN An activist hedge fund that's been waging war against the board of CSX(CSX Quote - Cramer on CSX - Stock Picks) may be forced into retreat by the demands of its own investors. After acquiring enough CSX shares to earn voting rights in a proxy dispute last year, The Children's Investment Fund Management, or TCI, could find itself in the awkward position of having to dump the railroad company's stock because of its own need for capital. The result could be a blow to CSX's market value that is driven by insider shareholders rather than the company's fundamental performance -- exactly the opposite of what TCI set out to do. (there are 5 pages to this story)

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 22 December 2008 Mikey Ward had to sell off his stock. It was part of the property settlement in his divorce. I just hope his wife got most of it. It doesn't matter he's in the position to build up his shares every year as part of his bonus. Quit this Chicken Little "The sky is falling" mentality. Over my years I've seen CSX stock go like a rollercoaster from $18 a share after the John Snowball Conrail debacle to highs in the $80's when it split. TCI/3G isn't a threat their just feeling the effects like the rest of Wall Street. To insinuate it's their plan to bust the stock them take over CSX is ludicrios. TCI owns more Union Pacific stock then CSX. Like most funds to stay solvent sometimes they need to liquidate. How can they take over a company they just got out of? Think about it? It would take billions of dollars to buy any railroad. TCI only owns $532 million in stock.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 22 December 2008 Hey CSX Customer: The litmus test would be if Ward sold stock because he had information about CSX that was not made available to the other CSX investors. If that was the case, it's illegal.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: CSX Customer, for N/A Posted: 22 December 2008 HELLO NO mo; it is on record that on nov. 04 M.ward sold 531,920 shares of C S X COMMON STOCK FOR $46.57 THEN ON nov 5 he used his option to buy 250,000 shares at 16.07 he then sold the same 250,000 shares at 46.24 CENTS. THIS IS NOT A IF THIS IS A FACT AS LONG AS HE PUTS THIS ON RECORD I GUESS IT IS NOT INSIDER TRADING.PULL THIS INFORMATION UP ON c s x insider trading.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 22 December 2008 If Ward or any other Officer or Director is selling stock based on information not public...that's insider trading; which proven carries heavy monetary fines and jail time. All stock transactions of Officers and Directors are required to be registered with the SEC. However, given the apparent lack of oversight or corruption by the SEC, anything is possible!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 21 December 2008 CSX Customer N/A : You have a good point there! I never thought about that but he sure did dump his stock. He knows something is about to happen.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: CSX Customer, for N/A Posted: 21 December 2008 i recently heard that the company T C I which got four of their people on C S X board is about to give up on C S X STOCK AND SELL. IF THEY DO LOOK OUT c s x STOCK WILL BE IN THE $20.00 RANGE AS SOON AS THEY SELL. THIS IS WHEN THEY WILL MAKE OFFER TO TAKE OVER c s x . THIS MAY HAVE BEEN THEIR PLAN ALL ALONE A FOREIGN COMPANY TAKING OVER A MAJOR RAILROAD AND SELLING IT PIECE BY PIECE. M, WARD KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING WHEN HE SOLD ALL HIS STOCK LAST MONTH FOR $46.00 PLUS.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Yard Master, for N/A Posted: 20 December 2008 Ward has had smoke blown up his butt ever since Ingram and Brown came into power, all these so called great measurements are nothing but smoke and mirrors. They (Mngmnt) change times, change symbols or run a crew into outlaw staus and then have yard crews (which should be doing their own work)relieve those trains. It is like they are taught in manager school to lie, cheat and instill upon them that its US (managers)against them (labor).Then there is Ms. Sanborn...what can I say, not one manager I know can make a decision based on experience from working the job. So instead of cutting the oversized, under experienced management team that they have accumalated they keep there brainwashed robots and get rid of all of their experienced, dedicated railroaders...Myself, just as many railroaders, at one time believed in this road, bought stock and worked our tails off to make a go of it, But just like all other companies they see what a great job your doing,not understanding how or what you have to do to get your job done and decide well that job can do even more...enough is enough before someone gets injured or worse.........I'm selling my stock and advising others to do the same!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Engine repair, for 1-10 years Posted: 20 December 2008 I can't say which branch I worked at...but, feel the need and am compelled to share my story. First off, I grew up in a small town, joined the Armed Forces, and then came back and went to college. I went to work for CSX a couple of years ago and was working on the locomotives. I have always been a rail buff and never really wanted to do anything else but to belong on the railroad. I have been a long time collector of railroad memoribilia..with that being said, if you work for a railroad and am a collector, I would strongly suggest you get rid of it. Do not sell it! burn it...or throw it in the trash. It ended up costing me my job. I didn't get fired, but was asked to leave. Not having the money to secure a lawyer and fight the battle, I decided it would be in my best interest. Even though I had substantial documentation and witnesses that knew I had the material prior to working on the railroad, it didn't matter to them. Just thought I would share the information, as I wouldn't want anyone else to get treated like the dog they made me out to be. Not only this, before everything was said and done, one of the managers was slandering my name..before anything was decided. I have never in my life been punished in such a way. I could understand maybe if I had a proven track record. I've never really been in trouble in any way. A few minor traffic infractions...that's it! But, they responded as if I was a convicted felon. The union of course wasn't much help either...(they advised me to resign) what a great union! All the dues I paid....for nothing... I have sinced moved on an am receiving some job offers. Can't wait to get my weekends back and start living more of a normal life. "A smart man learns from his own mistakes, but a wise one learns from others."

Name: goober E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 17 December 2008 I know this old boy was just a street ape in 1981 selling a few cigs along the street. Boom he has done pretty good. see what happens when you, leave the RR for a sucky job selling cigarettes to kids. HA HA Robert D. Stowe Senior Vice President - Trade Marketing Robert D. Stowe is senior vice president of trade marketing for R.J. Reynolds Tobacco Company. Stowe joined R.J. Reynolds in 2004 when the company merged with Brown & Williamson Tobacco Corp. Stowe began his career with Brown & Williamson in 1981 as a sales representative in Salt Lake City, Utah. After several managerial promotions, he became division vice president of marketing communications, and then held several sales area vice president positions. He was promoted to his current role in January 2006. Stowe is a native of Sandy, Utah. He holds a bachelors degree in sociology and a bachelors degree in psychology from the University of Utah.

Name: goober E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 17 December 2008 Take a long look at this boy, 1994 selling shampoo for Helene Curtis. Attitude? Action in place. He makes more than 60k, cough, cough selling Cigarettes. Well shit Dam how could that ever happen. GOOFY Andrew D. Gilchrist Executive Vice President - Chief Financial Officer and Chief Information Officer R.J. Reynolds Tobacco Company Andrew D. Gilchrist is executive vice president - chief financial officer and chief information officer for R.J. Reynolds Tobacco Company, a subsidiary of Reynolds American Inc. (RAI). He assumed his current position on July 1, 2008. Gilchrist joined RAI in 2004 as senior director business development. He was promoted to vice president integrated business management for R.J. Reynolds Tobacco Company on Jan. 1, 2006, and became senior vice president and chief financial officer for the company on Nov. 1, 2006. Gilchrist began his career in 1994 as a sales representative with Helene Curtis. In 1997 he joined Brown & Williamson Tobacco Corporation (B&W) as a management trainee. He later held a number of management positions at B&W and its former parent company, British American Tobacco. On July 30, 2004, R.J. Reynolds and the U.S. operations of B&W were combined, and Reynolds American became R.J. Reynolds' new parent company. A native of Cincinnati, Ohio, Gilchrist earned a bachelor of science degree in economics from Purdue University and a masters degree in business administration from the Weatherhead School of Management at Case Western Reserve.

Name: goober E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 17 December 2008 As all can see from the last post. Crossing accidents are a painful experience for all train crews. This conductor is living with it every day, and has no way to make the sounds go away. Both sides lose so much. SLL is the only way to be safe at a rail crossing. GOOFY

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 15 December 2008 To the family who lost loved ones..... I can only speak for my own crew over many years. My engineer blows his horn constantly and continually for all crossings. He knows all crossings - even the cow paths - by sight, and by heart, and he never misses. Ever. We all have families who drive cars with our kids and have to cross over train crossings. We all preach safety constantly to our wives, sons and daughters. Safety is always on our minds. My best advice after 40 years of freight train service, whenever you have to cross a train track: STOP - LOOK - LISTEN. Railroad crossings are extremely dangerous. They are like a wild beast that can come alive at any second and end your life. This is why school buses and gasoline trucks are required to stop at RR crossings before crossing the tracks. It is the safest way to cross and they are required by law to - STOP - LOOK - LISTEN. Until railroads invent a way to make crossings 100% safe, safe habits are our own best safeguard - STOP _ LOOK _ LISTEN. I know this will not bring back your family, but perhaps other people who read this will save lives with good safe driving habits. Again, we are deeply sorry for your loss. Our thoughts and prayers go out to you and your family.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: CSX Customer, for N/A Posted: 15 December 2008 the railroads needs to help a little with the auto industries for in the last three years the freight they charge has more than double.all the time while cutting people off and charging way to much for fuel extra charge.every time freight is down look for a extra charge from the r.r. on shippers.they are almost as bad as the gas controll companys.in the end only the buyers of autos has to pay.

Name: main street joe E-mail: Employed as: Engine repair, for 30+ years Posted: 13 December 2008 If Big Auto goes belly up, yep, 40 -50% RR layoff is bout right. People will line up for the soup lines - just like the Depression of the 30s. Detroit will look like a ghost town. Not to worry though...our corporate leaders are coming to the rescue with YOUR money. John Snow and Cerebus and Crysler? What's wrong with that picture? George Bush....where are you. Or, better yet.....where were you?? (for the answer to this question, watch David Letterman's nightly parady, "Great Moments in American History...."). Trickle Down to the little guy? The only thing trickling down might well be George peeing his pants before the People's Guillotine. Big Auto deserves to walk the plank too - god knows they screwed the consumer for years with gas guzzling, over priced, defective ridden lemons. Ever hear of the word: Hybrid? (Hint: it's in Webster's dictionary, in the "H" section). The trouble is, if Big Auto goes, so goes 3 million jobs. The little guy pays again. OH! Lets not forget those GREEDY OIL COMPANIES. $5/gallon in August to $1/gallon in December? Does MANIPULATE come to mind? So now what? The wolf is asking Goldi Locks to trust him again? Go to grandma's house with the friendly flesh eating wolf? Gas is $1/gallon, so we should all rush out and load up our garages up with gas guzzling lemons, just in time to get burned to death when gas mysteriously skyrockets to $10/gallon because the Ayatolla of Persia awoke on Ramadan with smelly socks and declared a jihad to atone for his stinky feet? Investment companies, hedge funders, securities brokers et al are master swindlers. How else does one make $50 billion in 10 years without producing anything to show for it? Former NASDAQ CEO - indicted for screwing tens of thousands of investors out of $50 Billion. Yep, $50 billion. The screwing of America. How about 10 million home owners who lost their life savings AND their homes. How about another 50 million homeowners who have mortgages "underwater". What happens to them? Glug, glug, glug. What about the 100 million 401K stock market investors who lost 50% of their life savings in a flash? WHERE DID all that money go? But, hey, not to worry. Everything is gonna be ok. Just ask Illinois Governor Rod Blagoyavich (BLAH-goy-yah-vich). It's every man for himself - screw the general public. Government for sale to the highest bidder. Jobs for sale, Senate seats for sale - name your payment. High bidder gets the cheese. Our fearless leaders hard at work. But hey, not to worry. Corporate America has the answer.... FIRST: circle the wagons. SECOND: shoot all employees. THIRD: collect BAILOUT BONUSES....retire to Vegas. What is wrong with this picture? Anyone?

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 13 December 2008 CSX 31.60 3:31PM -2.56 -7.49%

Name: CSX Blow E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 11 December 2008 Nice one there Green Manalishi! However , I don`t have to read your post on every thread , we get the message with just one posting. Its not cool to bogg down the other topics with the same thing.

Name: Green Manalishi E-mail: Employed as: Employed in other capacity, for 10-20 years Posted: 11 December 2008 CSX has recently announced its new slogan for the upcoming year: "SAVING MONEY BY SACRIFICING QUALITY" While this has always been past practice at CSX, it becomes official commencing with the first quarter 2009.

Name: bj barnes E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years Posted: 09 December 2008 What many people dont relize is that its sort of easy to get a train rolling but its very hard to stop it,Many think its like a car just slam on the brakes and you stop. NOT!!! I myself have had 3 close shaves working in a yard at speeds at less than 5 mph, i seen a guy one night he got both feet cut off it was so grusome that the entire yard crews marked off on the that 3rd trick and went home, Many of my non railroad friends always say you guys have a cake job, you sit on your butts and sleep and get payed for it, I always tell em i never seen some get cut in half using a fax or computer,My only guess is when i had those 3 close calls my guardion angel was there. I also know of a dude who was riding a cut of cars to a class track the slack ran out and knocked im off the ladder, he fell down and got his leg cut off at the ankle at a speed of 2 mph, I rest my case.

Name: J W E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 08 December 2008 To HEARTBROLEN THAT LOST HER FAMILY IN TRAIN ACCIDENT. AFTER 10 YEARS YOU REALLY NEED SOME HELP TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WENT WRONG IN THE ACCIDENT.I WORKED FOR 42 YEARS AS A CONDUCTOR AND DURING THAT TIME I WAS INVOLVED IN OVER A DOZEN AUTO ACCIDENT ONLY ONE DEATH THANK GOODNESS. I COULD NAME AT LEAST 10 OF THESE ACCIDENTS SO I AM SURE THE CREW THAT WAS ON THE TRAIN THAT KILLED YOUR FAMILY WILL NEVER FORGET THAT DAY. EVERY CAR,TRUCK OR BIKE THAT WE HIT SAID THEY NEVER HEARD A HORN EVEN THOUGH IT WAS BEING BLOWN.IF WE HAD BEEN GOING A LITTLE FASTER IT WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED FOR THE ENGINE WOULD HAVE BEEN OVER THE CROSSING BEFORE THE CAR GOT THEIR. ONLY IF WE HAD BEEN GOING A LITTLE SLOWER THE TRUCK OR CAR WOULD HAVE BEEN ACROSS BUT THAT IS NOT HOW LIFE IS.IF WHAT YOU SAY THE TRAIN WAS SPEEDING THEN IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN HANDLE IN COURT IT WOULD NOT HAVE BROUGHT YOUR FAMILY BACK BUT YOU WOULD HAVE PROBALLY FELT SOME BETTER WITH A LOT OF MONEY.IT WAS JUST A ACCIDENT NOT A MURDER LIKE YOU THINK. GET SOME HELP TALK TO A CONDUCTOR OR ENGINEER WHO HAS BEEN THROUGH THIS KIND OF ACCIDENT .I GRANT YOU THAT CONDUCTORand engineer WILL ALWAYS REMEMBER. I KNOW THAT DURING HOLLIDAYS IS A BAD TIME FOR LOST FAMILY MEMBERS BUT i REALLY WISH YOU A MERRY christmas and a happy better new year. sorry for your lost.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 07 December 2008 Please only post your stories of grade crossing accidents on the "Safety First" forum on this website. As railroaders we don't need to read about it. First off it's not CSX that puts in safety devices at crossings it's your state. Secondly we witness to many people who try to beat the train. The rule for the general public is "Stop-Look-Listen" apparently that didn't happen. If as you stated this person already knew of the dangers of this crossing they were negligent. The last thing any railroader wants to witness is a tragidy but it happens and we try not to take it personal. Even though we remember every one of them. Get over it go on with your life before it destroys you like some asshole on the Safety First forum named Pines.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 06 December 2008 Hey Other: Not much I can say except I'm sorry for you lose.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 06 December 2008 JULY 13TH,1998 CSX TOOK THE LIVES OF A 39 YR OLD MAN AND HIS 32 YR OLD WIFE' AND THERE 3 CHILDREN : SON AGE 8 1/2,DAUGHTER #1 AGE 8, AND DAUGHTER #2 AGE 7! THE WIFE HAD REQUESTED FOR SEVERAL YRS ABOUT PLACING CROSSING GAURDS AT THE TRACK AND CSX TOLD HER ON THE 4TH TIME THAT UNTIL SOMEONE DIES ON THAT AREA THERE WILL NOT BE ANY CROSSING GAURDS PLACED. BUT 6 MONTHS AFTER THE FAMILYS DEATH THEY FINIALLY PUT THE GUARDS UP. AND FOR CSX IT'S NOT SAFETY FIRST IF SO THE TRAIN WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN SPEEDING AND IT WOULD HAVE SOUNDED IT HORN AND ITS BEEN 10 YEARS BUT I KNOW THEY ARE IN HEAVEN ! BUT PLEASE CSX HAS THE BIGEST REPORTS FOR CRASHES/DEATHS THATS KNOWN TO MEN IN GENERAL . SO DON'T TRY TO SAY THAT ITS ALL ABOUT SAFETY. ITS NOT AND WE ALL MAKE MISTAKES DAILY . I'M NOT MAD AT THE CONDUCTER/CSX COMPANY OR ANYONE -I'M JUST UPSET AND I MISS MY FAMILY. SO PLEASE ENOUGH--- FROM SOMEONE THATS BEEN THERE... GOD BLESS EACH ONE HEART BROKEN P.S. I FORGIVE EVERYONE ! BUT PLEASE LETS BE MORE ON SAFETY. MY FAMILY WOULD STILL BE HERE IF THAT TRAIN HADN'T BEEN SPEEDING AND IF HE WOULD HAVE ONLY BLEW THE HORN TO ALERT THEM. THE TRAIN DRUG THE MAN OUT OF HIS VEHICLE AND RAN OVER HIM IN A V SHAPE AND IT BROKE THE LITTLE BOYS LEG OFF AND ONE LITTLE GIRL WAS SCALPED AND THE OTHER LITTLE GIRL HAD MULTIPLE HEAD INJURIES AND THE WIFE/MOM WAS BROKE UP AND DOWN ENTIRLEY ON HER RIGHT SIDE AND WE BURRIED HER WITH DUCK TAPE ON HER LEG TO HOLD IT TO WERE THE BONE WOULDN'T PUNCTURE THROUGH THE SKIN. WE HAVE REALLY BEEN THROUGH ALOT AND I ONLY WANT YOU TO KNOW IF IT WAS ALL ABOUT SAFETY-THEN SAFETY WOULDN'T BE SPEEDING AND WOULD HAVE SOUNDED THE HORN.. I PRAY THAT GOD BE WITH THAT CONDUCTER! I COULDN'T LIVE WITH MYSELF KNOWING THAT I TOOK 3 CHILDREN AND THERE PARENTS LIFES. SORRY !!! HEART BROKEN IT TORE THE LITTLE BOYS LEG OFF

Name: goober E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 01 December 2008 Pluggy is now flying the right seat with a major commuter airline, or has his own bus with Greyhound Bus Lines. left side of the bus under the window is real nice red paint that says (PLUGGY). Goofy

Name: htl E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 01 December 2008 well it is the holiday season and a time to remember old friends isnt it? well I would like to get an update on how my old buddy the plug door/plugmaster is doing. so heres thinking about you pluggy! here is his acceptance speech.... sometimes unknown is better but if your out there pluggy merry christmas! he seems like the perfect material for the job! quote.....Name: plug TRAINMASTER E-mail: Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 20-30 years Posted: 29 May 2006 Well i got news for ya goob i am now a trainmaster on a lines west division i took the job as trail type of thing for 3 months and so far its not as bad as some say and i dont have to re- locate and if that does happen i will go back to being a trainman as i do have that option, But it is giving me a sort of of way on the difference on the way labor and management thinks as per railroad operations and i think i have some good ways of doing things and my main objective is to cut out all that jibberish talk that is prevlent with the m&w people and that talk does tie up the dispatchers radios with nonsence talk about who is running said piece of equiptment and such or who is digging a ditch at a location and what type of equiptment that are using we dont care about that one lil bit, And it can be done very easy all we have to do is get the M&W formen to have a radio that has a scan mode so it scans from ch 1 to 10 so the di can call them if needed and the rest of the M&W can get on another channel and talk all the bs they want to the same type of radio can also be used for crews doing switching like they can have it on scan and if the di needs them then they can call them on road ch 1 if something comes up,This is not new as it has been around for the military for a long time,its only the railroads who dont know this tech stuff is now on the market in the yard were i work all the yardmasters in the yard have this, And its time this radio system is givin to the train dispatchers office, And hey i know i do blabber a lot about enginners because i hate them but everything i say is tong and cheek so to say and i would not even want to bring hoggy longy on the carpet unless of course he asked for it and that guy for one out of all the railroad workers is just asking for it for some strange reason i guess he hates trainmen,And talking about hoggers hear is a good one, I recall one day when we outlawed in the middle of a town and we had a road crossing blocked and it was the only road into that town and the hogger refused to move the train 1 inch to cut the crossing, This was total ignorant on his part, And who would have been blamed if a fire truck or ambulance had been needed? yes sir me the big C would have been in a world of s----t There are times when you have to bend the rules a bit and you know it as well as me, Do you hoggy longy disagree with that?

Name: E-mail: Employed as: CSX Customer, for N/A Posted: 26 November 2008 ON oct 11 C S X STOCK 46.00 i said it would be in the 30.00 range on NOV 22 IT CLOSED AT 31.77. I SAID IT WOULD BE A GOOD TIME TO ADD TO YOUR HOLDING FOR I BELEIVED IT WOULD GET BACK UP TO 40.00.TODAY c s x closed at 36.27. i just wish i had listen to myself a little more.i sold what i had 5O PERSENT AT 60.00. 50 PERSENT OF WHAT WAS LEFT AT 50.00AND THE BALANCE AT 45.00 BUT DID NOT BUY BACK IN WISH I HAD.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 26 November 2008 Selkirk begining in January 50-100 furloughs

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 1-10 years Posted: 24 November 2008 Slack: Almost forgot. You said the yards were built 100 years ago and cannot handle the business of the 21st century. Successful companies plan for expansion and expend capital to make sure their plant is up to the challenge. Example BNSF and new lines leading into the PRB. I can't confirm it is true, but it is said that Clarence Gooden likes to say that "Capacity is the enemy of price". If that is true, then that gives some idea into the conversations on Waters Ave and why management and contract people in the field are going crazy trying to do the same thing over and over and expecting different results. I am sure that Sam Walton's children are glad ol' Sam didn't subscribe to that form of thinking.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for 1-10 years Posted: 24 November 2008 NoMo and Slack Action: Ya'll cut it out. Both of you know the problem. Problem is the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing. Front line management is severely lacking in railroad men to run this RR. The ones that are there have their hands tied by the lawyers and economists in Jacksonville. Or are hanging on till retirement hoping they don't have another heart attack before the day comes. The majority of new management coming into the system have no clue what railroading involves and the young ones that do have a little RR experience usually are people that got their ass beat in school or were made fun of so now they have some authority and it goes to their heads....which are usually shaved. And it is only going to get worse unless somebody in Jacksonville figures out that this isn't working......like NS has finally figured out. The day will come when the only thing management knows how to do is conduct O-tests, instead of moving cars from point A to point B in the most efficient manner.....and working together with the contract guys to make sure it stays that way. Instead it's like Captain Bly and The Bounty.

Name: slack action E-mail: Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years Posted: 24 November 2008 NoMO: I concur that all of the crafts have problems. You said you were in NOLA, well most of the outbound traffic comes from an interchange, much like any city along the Mississippi that is on CSX. You are right about CSX trying to control their own system, they can't do it. It is always Divisions against divisions. My budget against your budget. The railroads were built 100 years ago and the yards just cannot hanlde the business of the 21st century. Just because I state facts does not mean I work for mgt, far from it... As far as the RR versus the airline. I think you answered your own question. They have 5 maybe 10 directions and also altitude which gives them a lot of options. The railroad cannot go up and down to clear a path and only goes in 2 directions. I never heard of a flight crew dogging in mid air and waiting on a cab, M of W asking for air space, a crew having to walk their aircraft looking for a hot box. Reroute a jet 100 miles out of the way not big deal, the delay is about 7 minutes. Reroute a train 100 miles it might be delayed for 2 or more days and take 2 or 3 extra crews. The pure logistics of moving a train is more that aircraft. Speed has nothing to do with it...Meeting 2 Amtraks going 79 mph is the same as meeting two coal train doing 40 mph, figuring the run time is the same.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 24 November 2008 Hey Slack Action: Why does it have to be a train received in interchange? And why are you're always defending CSX unless you're management. Surely MoW is just as screwed up as transportation. CSX can not control trains on the UP, BN or any other system...they have enough trouble controlling trains on their system. I don't know about other gateways...but when I was in NO the inability to accept interchanges was largely due to lack of room to yard. The lack of room resulted from the inability to switch cars and build their own trains. I won't mention generating the correct paperwork...there is a high probability that when the train and paperwork are ready, they wouldn't match. Maybe if CSX was more efficient they could afford a 3rd ML where needed. As it stands now, they will wait until it's too late then cry to the government for help. They'll use Passenger Rail as the excuse. I guess you'll have to explain to me how the RR, which moves in only 2 directions at slow speed is more complex than the airlines which moves in 5 at speeds in excess of 500 MPH.

Name: slack action E-mail: Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years Posted: 24 November 2008 NoMO: I am just making some valid points on why a train from an interchange is late. I did not mean to ruffle your feathers or hurt your feelings. I agree that CSX has some piss poor people in management. Why do I have to be in Management just because I stated reasons why interchanges are so late. Maybe you can shed some light on how CSX can control trains on the BN/UP. You might want to ask the 2 x train dispatchers why they are now Air Traffic Controllers (more to follow). Answer: because it pays more and is less stressful. The FAA spends alot more money on technology than cheap CSX. Comparing the airlines to the railroads are like comparing apples to oranges. The railroad is alot more complex than the airlines..The FAA has just opened up an Express Lane for the holidays ( air space used by the government) Now let's see the RR create a 3rd main at the blink of an eye.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 24 November 2008 Hey Slack Action: What difference does it make what the other crews were thinking or if they were dead headed? And why is it a big guessing game what and when the interchange will happen? In fact what do any of the points you mention have to do with anything? Nothing! Just a convenient asshole patch for management, blame someone or something as a reason why you cant do your job. The airlines seem to do a pretty good job of getting their flights from point A to point B and in a much more complex environment. Like I said, CSX has management problems, from the yard office to the executive office. It's all about command and control and CSX has neither right now. Oh by the way, thanks for bringing that to Goober's attention...I doubt he would have thought about it. Finally, it's alright to post as a Train Master/Supervisor, it's obvious from you past posts that you are not a contract employee1 Have an ethical CSX day!

Name: goober E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 23 November 2008 Slack Action, Nice shot, you covered the other side of a one way conversation. Saved me a lot of typing. If I got $12.00 to eat on for 55 hours, I would be working somewhere else. Nice Job GOOFY

Name: slack action E-mail: Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years Posted: 23 November 2008 NoMo: I bet the dead head crews sitting at Pensac/Chatta or Montgomery/Bham were not so happy waiting for the train that you were on to arrive. I bet it is a big guessing game trying to figure train arrivals coming from the BN or UP, whether the engines need to be serviced, trying to get a work order, hoping the 418 crosses over for billing, there are no 49 STCC cars from the interchanging RR, is the train blocked correct, hoping it does not have any shop cars that need to be switched out, hoping the train does not dog enroute, hoping crews do not mark off. Man i bet the CD/ACD use one heck of a cyrstal ball. Can you say sooth sayer.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 23 November 2008 Hey Ron: I feel your pain...but I was held in NO for 55 hours before being sent home. It's hard to eat on $12.00 a day! Another time I tied us up and was 3rd out, I was working the FP. The Windows men started coming in after me and were allowed to run around the FP so they could get home and not miss a turn. I sat 1st out for 28 hours. Finally I called the Chief Dispatcher and told her my plight and to call a cab or a train. Two hours later I has on duty, the Gentilly TM, Larry McKenzie wasn't too happy...eight hours later we put out and 4 hours after that we tied her down. I guess he showed me!!! Just think, CSX makes money despite these guys...just think what they good do with some half way decent front line managers!!!

Name: ron E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years Posted: 23 November 2008 I was just wondering if you really know how stupid rr managers are?? IE the movement office guys... Get a call at 3 am to deadhead to a away from home terminal to take rest, lay there for 40hrs then get a dead head back to the home base, YIKES, how can they be that stupid and the waste of money this involves.... This has happened to me more than one time. Were oh were do they find these types of movement personal as this is just plaine and simple no brain managment,, This kind of thing not only occurs on csx, it occurs on all class 1 roads and then these managers have the nerve to say its the workers that are costing money so we better cut a few jobs and that they do.

Name: Wildman E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 22 November 2008 Look what I found!!! http://railroadworkersunited.org/question-early-retirement-0 Oh God can it have a chance. Earlier retirement???? Sign me and all us other disgruntled employees up!!!! I can stand the 2% per year cut in RR Retirement. There's a lot more to the story if you are interested and there's a couple of versions also.All the new hires that'll be furloughed in a few weeks should be pulling for something like this.The ones that won't get cut off could hold better jobs.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 22 November 2008 Symbol Last Time Change %Change High Low Volume Vol % CSX 31.60 12:25PM -0.17 -0.54% 32.83 31.33 7,828,813 ---

Name: E-mail: Employed as: CSX Customer, for N/A Posted: 22 November 2008 well C S X STOCK 31.77 it has finally caught down with the rest of stocks. i think it may me a good time to start adding a little each week to your holdings.good luck.by the end of the year i think it should be back to 38.00 or 40.00.by the way i am not really a c s x customer i just post under this.LOOK OUT HERE COMES t c i buying up the stock so they can take over before long.THURSDAY SHOULD START GOING UP friday.

Name: goober E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 21 November 2008 The goober has no CSX stock! However it will be fine, it moves with the Market, and pays a little to hang in there. Damn little. GOOFY

Name: htl E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 21 November 2008 nomo, she has to stay and work...she has a few more years to go....is it my fault I married a youngin? I call her butter face.......she still has a nice body butterface!!!!! yeah.... you figured out by now she isnt happy with me being able to enjoy anything before I die!!!! oh well good bye dear I will see you next spring!!!!!!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: CSX Customer, for N/A Posted: 21 November 2008 to GOOBER; C s x stock down into the 30.00 range 32.76 i think maybe it would be a good time to buy some it should not go much lower.it has finally caught down to the rest of stocks although i have seen it at 18.00 a share.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 20 November 2008 I THINK SOMEONE WHO KNOWS HOW TO CONTACT THE RIGHT PERSON SHOULD HAVE m. WARD STOCK SELL OF 781,920 SHARES OF c s x STOCK ON 11,0508 AT $46.40 TOTAL OF $36.28MILLION DOLLARS. THIS JUST MIGHT GET RID OF HIM OR FOR THE TIME BEING SLOW HIM DOWN SOME.THE STOCK CLOSED TODAY AT 32.76 that is a lot of loss in a matter of 14 days.or i might say alot he didnot lose.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 20 November 2008 Hey HTL: The thought of you in a Speedo is scary...is the Mrs. letting you run the women? If, by chance she is, just make sure the Banana is in the front!!! Enjoy your retirement.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: CSX Customer, for N/A Posted: 20 November 2008 GOOBER HAVE YOU LOOK AT YOUR c s x stock today. i beleive iT is in the Thirty dollar range don;t you.TUESDAY.

Name: HTLONG E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 20 November 2008 I ARRIVED IN FL LAST WEEKEND AND I AM WATCHING THE WEATHER CHANNEL WOW IT IS SO GREAT NOT TO HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT ANYTHING EXCEPT WHAT BEACH FRONT BAR I WILL GET HAMMERED AT TODAY!!!!! I SHOULD HAVE PULLED THE PIN YEARS AGO...THANK YOU TONY INGRAM FOR SHOWING ME THE WAY!!!! LIFE AFTER RAIL ROADING......AHHHH! JUST TO HAVE MY LIFE BACK!!!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 19 November 2008 CSX 36.00 -1.58 -4.20% 9,377,748

Name: E-mail: Employed as: CSX Customer, for N/A Posted: 18 November 2008 TO fedup C S X ALONE WITH THREE OTHER RAILROADS HAS BEEN OVER CHARGING FREIGHT ON SAYING ITS FUEL SURCHARGES. THE j e a plant in JAX.fla has quit having their coal brought in by train they give all their business to the boats coming in now. the last i heard was the r.r. went from 325,000.00 DOLLARS TO OVER 600,000.00 FREIGHT PER TRAIN CALL THE j E a plant in jax they will tell you how much plus why they quit getting their coal by train.

Name: fedup E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 18 November 2008 I over heard a conversation between 2 officials last week about the revenue made from 1 loaded coal train, a 100 car train carrying around 14,000 tons is worth 1.5 million, wow, and these cheap bastards have the nerve to rob us. the ones who are expected to load and move and do paper work on this cash cow, any body that thinks this company feels for you needs medicated, as for me, Ill medicate them(csx management) as much as I can, mainly with loaded suppositories.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: CSX Customer, for N/A Posted: 18 November 2008 HI wildman C S X STOCK 37.58 IT IS A GOOD TIME FOR YOU TO BUY BEFORE IT GOES LOWER.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 18 November 2008 CSX 38.23 -0.59 -1.52% 5,260,172

Name: Wildman E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 17 November 2008 Selling stock "low" is foolish.Now is the time to buy! CSX stock WILL increase in value in the future and would be a good buy for something like a college fund or some other long term investment.Railroad stock as well as most large cap stocks are always going to be a worthy investment,,,IF you stay in for the long term. Remember,we are good at what we do.Even the laziest crew still makes money for the company.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 15 November 2008 CSX 38.82 -3.52 -8.31% 7,386,416

Name: E-mail: Employed as: CSX Customer, for N/A Posted: 15 November 2008 attention goober; HAVE YOU CHECKED YOUR c S X STOCK TODAY. $38.82 IT TOOK A LITTLE LONGER FOR THE STOCK GET DOWN INTO THE .MmMTHIRTY DOLLAR RANGE THAN I THOUGHT IT WOOD.I THINK m. ward knew what to do with stock sell sell sell.

Name: goober E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 14 November 2008 Class action, Dang what a shame. Join all of the class action law dealies that you want. Lawyers wrap all of the saps into a bundle, call it a class action, every one is happy until pay out time. Yep Lawyers use the numbers, for power, then take the fees and cost out, and yep you as the one that was harmed get what is left- Divided by all that they could find in the world to make a claim --$12.00. your part of the 23 kazillion claiments that filed in like sheep. Honestly you may get a free movie ticket for you and your wife. Only good if you buy one at full price, and attend 2 weeks in a row. expires in 13 days! GOOFY

Name: E-mail: Employed as: CSX Customer, for N/A Posted: 14 November 2008 i guess everone knows by now that C s X AND three other railroads has a class-action suit against them for illegally fixing fuel surcharges to their customers. this has been going on for quite some time coal freight charges has double in the last two years so therefore your electic bills has gone up a lot all their big profits and less hauling has come from these high rate on freight that you and i have been paying for.look out railroad stock i thinkk you will lose even if you pay off without going to court.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 13 November 2008 CSX 41.54 -2.29 -5.22% 6,837,591 315.15%

Name: Wildman E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 13 November 2008 Well the FRA cell phone ban has fallen on deaf ears. The "perpetually connected" are still using them all the time,while switching,spotting cars,riding in the cab,and riding on cars.I guess someone's going to have to get caught and made an example of before they get the message.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 12 November 2008 How come Csx calls trains for say 1800 and does not have you out of the yard til say 2145? hmmmmmmm Mr Ingram where do you find your Managers at?

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 12 November 2008 The 5 minute management course Lesson 1: A man is getting into the shower just as his wife is finishing up her shower, when the doorbell rings. The wife quickly wraps herself in a towel and runs downstairs. When she opens the door, there stands Bob, the next-door neighbor. Before she says a word, Bob says, 'I'll give you $800 to drop that towel.' After thinking for a moment, the woman drops her towel and stands naked in front of Bob, after a few seconds, Bob hands her $800 and leaves. The woman wraps back up in the towel and goes back upstairs. When she gets to the bathroom, her husband asks, 'Who was that?' 'It was Bob the next door neighbor,' she replies. 'Great,' the husband says, 'did he say anything about the $800 he owes me?' Moral of the story: If you share critical information pertaining to credit and risk with your shareholders in time, you may be in a position to prevent avoidable exposure. Lesson 2: A priest offered a Nun a lift. She got in and crossed her legs, forcing her gown to reveal a leg. The priest nearly had an accident. After controlling the car, he stealthily slid his hand up her leg. The nun said, 'Father, remember Psalm 129?' The priest removed his hand. But, changing gears, he let his hand slide up her leg again. The nun once again said, 'Father, remember Psalm 129?' The priest apologized 'Sorry sister but the flesh is weak.' arriving at the convent, the nun sighed heavily and went on her way. On his arrival at the church, the priest rushed to look up Psalm 129. It said, 'Go forth and seek, further up, you will find glory.' Moral of the story: If you are not well informed in your job, you might miss a great opportunity. Lesson 3: A sales rep, an administration clerk, and the manager are walking to lunch when they find an antique oil lamp. They rub it and a Genie comes out. The Genie says, 'I'll give each of you just one wish.' 'Me first! Me first!' says the admin clerk. 'I want to be in the Bahamas , driving a speedboat, without a care in the world.' Puff! She's gone. 'Me next! Me next!' says the sales rep. 'I want to be in Hawaii , relaxing on the beach with my personal masseuse, an endless supply of Pina Coladas and the love of my life.' Puff! He's gone. 'OK, you're up,' the Genie says to the manager. The manager says, 'I want those two back in the office after lunch. Moral of the story: Always let your boss have the first say. Lesson 4 An eagle was sitting on a tree resting, doing nothing. A small rabbit saw the eagle and asked him, 'Can I also sit like you and do nothing?' The eagle answered: 'Sure, why not.' So, the rabbit sat on the ground below the eagle and rested. All of a sudden, a fox appeared, jumped on the rabbit and ate it. Moral of the story: To be sitting and doing nothing, you must be sitting very, very high up. Lesson 5 A turkey was chatting with a bull. 'I would love to be able to get to the top of that tree' sighed the turkey, 'but I haven't got the energy.' 'Well, why don't you nibble on some of my droppings?' replied the bull. They're packed with nutrients.' The turkey pecked at a lump of dung, and found it actually gave him enough strength to reach the lowest branch of the tree. The next day, after eating some more dung, he reached the second branch. Finally after a fourth night, the turkey was proudly perched at the top of the tree. He was promptly spotted by a farmer, who shot him out of the tree. Moral of the story: Bull Crap might get you to the top, but it won't keep you there.. Lesson 6 A little bird was flying south for the winter. It was so cold the bird froze and fell to the ground into a large field. While he was lying there, a cow came by and dropped some dung on him. As the frozen bird lay there in the pile of cow dung, he began to realize how warm he was. The dung was actually thawing him out! He lay there all warm and happy, and soon began to sing for joy. A passing cat heard the bird singing and came to investigate. Following the sound, the cat discovered the bird under the pile of cow dung, and promptly dug him out and ate him. Morals of the story: (1) Not everyone who craps on you is your enemy. (2) Not everyone who gets you out of crap is your friend. (3) And when you're in deep crap, it's best to keep your mouth shut! THUS ENDS THE FIVE MINUTE MANAGEMENT COURSE

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 09 November 2008 A $7.55 million gain...not bad, he'll pay $1.5 million in taxes on the gain. If he had done nothing, he would not have to pay any taxes. The smart money is standing pat or buying now while there are many good, well managed companies selling at discounts. The stock markets have been over bought by speculators which has driven the stock prices far above what the fundamentals support. For example, the recent increase in crude oil futures, to $160.00+ a barrel was largely a result of speculators. Yesterday it cost $2.13 a gallon to fuel my car, down from $3.99 a gallon just 5 or 6 weeks ago. CSX is probably a good stock in the $35 - $40 a share range...the insiders aren't going to get hurt, it the employees and small timers that will get burned...if they haven't sold by now, they better hold on because you ain't seen nothin yet. The next several years will be a wild ride. Watch the insider trading, if they start selling off their stock, not just exercising options, look out. Also, watch to see if the Board reduces the exercise price on options already granted. The stock markets and the companies listed on them are nothing more than smoke and mirrors...what you see, may not be what you get!!!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: CSX Customer, for N/A Posted: 09 November 2008 hello N0 M0 on the 250,000 shares of stock that M. WARD BOUGHT AND SOLD THE SAME DAY, IN THE COMPUTER THE STOCK BEGINNING DATEWAS 05,07,2007 AND THE ENDING DATE THAT HE HAD TO DO SOMETHING WAS EXPIRATION DATE OF 05,07,2013 YES THAT IS RIGHT OVER FOUR MORE YEARS SO HE MUST BELEIVE THAT THE STOCK IS ON THE WAY DOWN LOWER.HE REALLY JUST DONOT PLAN OF SHARING HIS WEALTH WITH obama and the rest of us next year.before next year a lot of rich people will be selling stock just so he cannot tax them higher.after the auto industry the railroad will be next in line for that free money C s X STILL OWES FOR THEIR PART OF CONRAIL.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 08 November 2008 Stock options usually have expiration dates attached to them. Maybe he is just exercising them before they expire...that's what I'd do.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: CSX Customer, for N/A Posted: 08 November 2008 made a mistake m. ward block of 250,000 shares he only got $46.24 a share. he most surely is on the way out and he knows it.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: CSX Customer, for N/A Posted: 07 November 2008 hello APE.it looks like m.Ward took my advice and unloaded his stock the thing is he sold 531,920 shares at $46.57 and the next block of 250,000 shares at $46.57 this was above what the stock market close at. the 250,000 shares he sold he purchased at $16.07.you think maybe he might be on the way out. maybe he does not want to share his wealth with the rest of us so he sold because OBAMA WOULD HAVE TOOK SOME OF HIS MONEY AND SHARED IT WITH US.csx must have bought his stock on their buy back program.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 20-30 years Posted: 07 November 2008 It looks like Mikey Ward has dumped his CSX stock on November 5, 2008. Anyone know the reason why? We are talking major bucks. CSX has been extremely good to Mikey. Go to CSX on the finance page. Pull up insider transactions. Mikey will be having a great Christmas!! How will yours be?

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 07 November 2008 CSX 42.66 -1.85 -4.16% 7,481,618

Name: goober E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 06 November 2008 FukCSX; Laugh when they put the breath reader on all locomotives, it is coming, and not for just the right side, both sides. The TM is covered under a different set of rules, TM is driving a highway vehicle, and is legal. GOOFY

Name: FukCSX E-mail: Youwish Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 06 November 2008 Thought everyone would like to know about a guy in Newport News Terminal in Virginia, Where ALL that black gold from the hills of West "By God" Virginia gets loaded onto ships and sent to china, He is Trainmaster Warren Rennick, a.k.a. Outback Jack, a.k.a Walkabout, who hails from the former Penal colony of Australia, Hence the alias's...Who as it turns out has a BREATHALIZER in his vehicle that he has to blow in to get the damn thing started and then every 15 minutes afterwards to keep it running!! This is the kind of individual that CSX has supervising there operations!!!GIVE ME A BREAK...I thought it was a joke when I first heard the rumor, But I had to ride with the S.O.B. the other day and damnit the rumors are true!!! Thanks CSX!!!!!!!

Name: goober E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 03 November 2008 I am very sure that no one really cares, cause to many are so busy paying up for, stuff that they think is good and missing the point. Here are the facts. 10-22 CSX is worth $45.00 10-25 Csx is worth $30.00 from the poster? 10-26 CSX is worth $42.00 10-31 CSX is worth $45.00 If I was working I would buy Red Board Insurance, and a lot of it. Top of the chart, why hold back and be iffy, buy a little and be a pansey, get it right the first time buy it to the limit. It is cheap only cost a few dollars a month. \ Never buy CSX stock, they will rip your ass like a naked baby boy. Does this sound like real life. Are you listening, get out of both as soon as you can. Put that cash in something. I suggest that you send it to me, I will invest it and you will get the same return from me as you do from them. ZERO GOOFY

Name: htl E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 01 November 2008 I asked my trick or treaters if I could have some of their candy to give to the kids who are to fat or lazy to trick or treat ........ they didnt like the idea.....spread the wealth....right?

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 31 October 2008 October 30, 2008 and CSX still SUCKS! Some things will never change.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 27 October 2008 Chessie cat found in Jacksonville, FLA shelter. Mike Ward and Tony Ingram changed Chessie's name to "Burger and Fries" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2mbeSAmUP4&feature=related

Name: goober E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 26 October 2008 NO MO Sorry for confusing you with Freddie Kruger. I am old and will be trying my best to see the difference between 2 blowhards, and reality. GOOFY

Name: goober E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 26 October 2008 Dang, I never was very good with names, guess I blew that one. stock price is $42.38 at close. We shall see if it hits $30.00 Bet it goes up the first of the week and ends above $42.38 at weeks end. GOOFY

Name: E-mail: Employed as: CSX Customer, for N/A Posted: 25 October 2008 HI GOOBER, SIX AM IN THE MORNING TODAY IS THE DAY THAT YOUR C S X STOCK GET DOWN TNTO THE $30 DOLLAR RANGE.HOPE YOU TOOK SOME OF YOURS OFF THE TABLE.OCT 23RD.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 23 October 2008 Hey Allman Brothers: Goober thinks Freddie and and I are one in the same...Philadelphia, PA, Mobile, AL...a 1000 miles apart. Conrail and the L&N...a 1000 miles apart. 1970's...2008...a couple of generations apart. Is it old-timers or is it maybe just Old Forester? Yeah you right about getting old...it's been all down hill from the day we were born!

Name: Allman Brothers E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 23 October 2008 I think Goober has oldtimers. He has you and Freddie Kruger mixed up. PS: Saw some old friends in Birmingham. Damn we all get old. They still draw the crowds.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 22 October 2008 Hey Goober: Don't change the subject. The price of CSX stock doesn't have a thing to do with anything...you said it was an EEOC claim, furthermore you said you're willing to search the archives and prove it, based on my previous posts. It's time to put up or shut up! Your move.

Name: goober E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 22 October 2008 CSX Customer posted 10/16 CSX stock at Mid $30.00 per share in a week. That would be 10/23 Wh shall see.$45.00 today GOOFY

Name: goober E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 22 October 2008 Oh MY NO MO gets a little defensive. He and I both know what is going on. CSX stock Last 52 weeks $70.00 to $39.00 today $45.00 2/1 split 8/06 Go back to 04 when the stock was under $40.00 and this site had a few bitchers. Today that $35.00 per share would be worth $90.00. I call that nice and ya get paid a little dividend along the way. Yep boys NO MO is suing and starving one day then working the next day. Who knows and who cares. The facts speake for themselves. NO MO is a poster every hour and every day. Heck he loves this site, and will respond to any thing Instantly. Yep he is the full time driving force on every subject. I really do like him, just do not buy some of his stuff. GOOFY

Name: fedup E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 21 October 2008 Any one know anything about these new thugs we have in the hu division? scott connors, brian stussy, adam hawkins, the last 2 are tm's.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 16 October 2008 Hey Goober: Knock yourself out!

Name: goober E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 16 October 2008 Must I go back thru the Archives, and show you mr NO MO that your case was an EEOC case as stated by you, and now it has changed. GOOFY

Name: E-mail: Employed as: CSX Customer, for N/A Posted: 16 October 2008 to goober who seems to know a little about everything.how about that C s X STOCK I HOPE IF YOU HAD ANY YOU TOOK A lITTLE OFF THE TABLE FOR NOW IT WILL BE IN THE MIDDLE $30.00 BEFORE THE WEEK IS OUT.sometimes even the pros donot know a lot. i told you so.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 15 October 2008 Can't talk about the mediation because of confidentiality agreement. But I can say I got my 8 in at work and my Brief has to be filed within 14 days!

Name: dragline E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 15 October 2008 Good Luck NOMO-Go kick butts and take names.

Name: htl E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 14 October 2008 nomo, I wish you the best in the outcome you have shown the paitence it takes to deal with a 800 lb gorilla.....MAKE A MONKEY OUT OF HIM!!!!!!

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 14 October 2008 Hey Goober: You asked because inquiring minds want to know! First, it was not an EEOC claim. It was brought pursuant to the Railway Labor Act alleging that CSXT violated the Collective Bargaining Agreement between CSXT and the UTU. It further alleges the UTU failed to fairly represent me and engaged in bad faith conduct in dealing with my termination. The Judge, appointed by a Republican President, granted the UTU's motion for summery judgement, citing a failure to show a genuine factual dispute with respect to the grievance and the Union's handling thereof. Since the claim against the union failed, so must the claim against the carrier. She also granted CSX's motion for summary judgement. The matter was appealed to the United States Court Of Appeals for the Eleventh Circuit in Atlanta. The case was selected for Mediation (non-binding) and is scheduled for tomorrow. The Eleventh Circuit has not ruled on the Appeal nor has my brief been filed. Tomorrow should prove interesting...nothing like an all day, 4 way conference call between Mobile, Atlanta, Cleveland and Washington. Think I'll lay off tomorrow!

Name: goober E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 14 October 2008 NO MO Time for a report on that EEOC case you HAVE? I have not seen much on that lately, Guess you are off spending all of that cash that CSX awarded you? GOOFY

Name: goober E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 11 October 2008 CSX Customer, The RR could be a leading indicator of the market, they haul parts to be assembled, coal to be burned ETC. The RR could also be a lagging indicator of the market, they haul finished product from, auto plants, grain, coal to market ETC Notice Coal was both a finished product for the rr and a needed item for production. RR are a good indicator of the health of any economy they just work both sides. Guess the pro's that we trust can settle this one??? GOOFY

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 11 October 2008 I've now heard three different times around Avon that former Trainmaster of the Year(Corporate Suckass) Tom Cook was caught embezzling funds. Anyone know the real scoop ??????????

Name: E-mail: Employed as: CSX Customer, for N/A Posted: 11 October 2008 regarding the stock market. railroad stock in general is one of the last stocks to go up when everything is good and when the stock market goes down it is one of the last one to go down. look out C s X STOCK HOLDERS DOWN THE STOCK IS FIXING TO GO INTO THE $30.00 RANGE BEFORE THE FIRST OF NEXT YEAR.TAKE A LITTLE OFF THE TABLE NOW.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 10 October 2008 Hancock is subject to being charged under the UTU Constitution, as are the rest of those bastards...so charge his happy ass!

Name: E-mail: fitzgerald ga Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years Posted: 10 October 2008 just wanted everyone to know that mr. W.E.VANHORN RETIRED AND ALL THE MONEY HE STOLE WHILE HE WAS LOCAL CHAIRMAN AT FITZGERALD GA HE GOT TO KEEP FOR HIS OWN. GOOD OLD MR JOHN HANCOCK GENERAL CHAIRMAN REFUSED TO TRY GET ANY OF THIS BACK EVEN THOUGH THE INTERNATIONAL PRESIDENT SAID HE WOULD.IF WE GOT PEOPLE REPRESENTING US LIKE THIS JUST THINK WHAT YOU CAN EXPECT.I KNOW THIS IS A C S X SUCK PROGRAM BUT IT LOOKS LIKE SOME IN HIGH UP IN THE U T U HAS BEEN DOING A LOT OF SUCKING.

Name: Green Manalishi E-mail: Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 08 October 2008 Dear CSX Employees I am pleased to inform you about a major new rail transportation plan we formed with the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. Our full press release can be found on the Gateway. Yes, I know this comes several months after the fact that NS announced their partnership with Guilford or Boston & Maine or PanAm or whatever they call themselves over the "Patriot Corridor." It actually took us that long to come up with a counter-plan. The counter-plan extends the only double-stack intermodal route from the Midwest into Massachusetts and New England by raising bridge and tunnel clearances along the CSXT main line between I-495 and New York State. It will also provide capacity for commuter train operations in highly populated areas which, as most of us know, are nowhere near western Massachusetts, and already well-served and in-place in eastern Massachusetts. The plan gives citizens of Massachusetts the opportnity to enjoy higher taxes that come with financing this plan, which includes all of the environmental and economic advantages of rail, while giving CSXT significant financial resources to build our rail network for the future. It will also allow us to implement our Positive Train Control testing so that we can begin to attempt to eliminate conductor's jobs and run freight trains with an engineer only. In light of the Metrolink tragedy a few weeks ago, we figure that if one person on the head-end of a commuter train is good enough for them, we can certainly achieve it. We figure that the Berkshire Mountains is a good place to do this. And so what if the engineer falls asleep or has a heart attack or text messages someone and slams into another train or is blocking major intersections highways? PTC baby! Weve been working on this vision for several years, and employees from every function of the company have been involved (or laid off, or furloughed). Its a great example of how CSX can grow by partnering with local, state and federal governments to dupe the general public and its investors into thinking we have solved their (actually our) most depressing transportation problems. That's a major objective of our companys vision for 2020. It should take at LEAST that long for the NS to upgrade the piddly-ass B&M trackage to compete with us. And anyway, between now and 2020, CSX's strategic planning will undoubtedly have changed dozens of times, and I plan to be retired with, as Barack likes to call it, my "golden parachute." Even so, this forward-looking projection on what we plan to do with double stacks SOUNDS good right now. What, ME worry? Just look our dispatch center in Jacksonville. Just twenty years ago, the concept of centralized dispatching was the wave of the future, man. Cutting edge, we were riding technology and new concepts into the 21st century. SCL, ACL, Western Maryland, L&N, B&O, C&O offices were all moved to one great biggin here in Jax! Who came up with this idea? No one remembers! That's the beauty of it. What the hey, we're undoing it all now anyway. Breaking up the center. Who knows, next month the plan may change. In another five years it will be a distant memory, and my pal Tony and I will be LONG gone sunning ourselves on an island off the coast of Nicaragua while being served drinks by 13-year-old boys wearing Speedos. Together, were building for our future while delivering excellent performance today. Michael Ward

Name: goober E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 08 October 2008 MRL (Montana Rail link) These folks have it RIGHT. Simple--- just get up and let the sleepy engineer Run for a while. left side has always been the sleepy side. Heck you all have been there and know it well. If that sleepy Conductor was an Engineer you would never post this kind of stuff. GOOFY

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 08 October 2008 I had a conductor that fell asleep and didn't awaken with all the horn blowing, alerter noise, and engine noise. But when his cell phone rang, it woke him right up.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 08 October 2008 Hey Wildman: Ever seen a conductor or engineer with 2+ cells...one for family and the other for friends, I have. Makes for a real interesting trip!

Name: Wildman E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 08 October 2008 I'm very happy with the cell phone rules. I am sick and tired of conductors making and recieving fifty calls a day when they are supposed to be working.This goes on while spotting cars in industries,switching in the yard,on the line of road,making brake tests,or any other time the damn thing rings.I've had to stop moving myself because I looked back and saw the conductor using his cell phone to text someone instead of telling me I was about to couple to a cut of cars.The cell phone had his full attention! I've had conductors who had no idea where they were at on the railroad to be able to tell the person on the other end of the phone call that they were about to lose them account of a "dead spot".This was the same person who just ten minutes earlier couldn't tell a dispatcher his milepost location before copying an EC1. Thirty days off for the first offense,ninety for the second,and dismissal for the third.No cleaning the employees record after six months or a year either.The phone ban violations stay for life.The reason; Cell phones are definately a willfull violation,you don't have to answer that thing,and you should be charged accordingly. Cell phones do have a place however.Sometimes radio towers go down.Sometimes having two lines of communication to talk to a yardmaster or train dispatcher helps out a lot.Calling the mechanical desk on a phone is way better than using the radio. CSX should have phones available for sign out at the begining of a trip like the radios we used when I first started to work.These phones would have pre-programmed numbers in them to use for company buisness.All incoming and outgoing numbers would be recorded and randomly reviewed.Violations would be evaluated and non-company buisness calls would result in the employee being charged as noted in the last paragraph.No other phones would be allowed to be activated while on duty. "My kid is sick"! This is one of the reasons given for needing a phone while on duty. Bullshit!!! There are ways to get ahold of working family members in an emergency.The yardmaster can be called if you're working in the yard or close by.If it's a real emergency the CSX police can be called at the number posted for emergencies.They can call you by radio wherever you are.If there's a real life and death situation they can already have transportation coming for you.If it's any worse than that you should've laid off anyway. Cell phones are an unsafe accessory while working and I hope CSX and the FRA really hammer the employees who violate the new rules.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 05 October 2008 Once again I'll state the FRA emergency bill does not restict use of cell phones for company business. That will be left up to each railroad to make that determination. If that is your concern then it need not be our rules right now gives us authority to use it. If CSX bans cell phones totally then they are the ones to blame not the FRA. Personal use I'm glad they're going to be banned it's gotten out of control. I'm old enough to remember when there was no such thing as cell phones and we survived without it.

Name: slack action E-mail: Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years Posted: 05 October 2008 AB, I mean No Name..... I was not spouting off... Just saying that cell phones work better than the radios in certain places. There are crews that have CSX owned cell phones to use. Not using a cell phone for other than company use has been a rule for years...

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 05 October 2008 NoMo I personally don't use my cell phone for company business I leave it up to the conductor. I have and most likely will use it while stopped and speaking with the mechanical help desk concerning a locomotive if CSX allows it. I don't think we can call out on the radio's anymore. I remember it, people were calling home on it. It never was used as it was originally intended it became more of a curiosity. Then it could be only used at certian locations where a relay was located. Working for CSX and using one of the cell phone providers on the Gateway it does get me a decent discount, plus my cell phone is the only number CSX has that is a tax deduction. Same way with my computer seeing I can log on and check my statis make my bids for jobs ect...it became a partial tax deduction. If CSX bans personal cell phones their option for certian jobs like industrial switchers ect...would be to provide a cell phone just like radios. They have done that in the past.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 05 October 2008 Hey Loco 30+: Why would anyone use their personal assets, in this case a cell phone, to conduct company business for this bunch of chumps. Will they reimburse you or give you brownie points? How will they know if your use of your cell is for company business besides looking at you service bill? If they start reimbursing you, they will require that you submit a bill. the first inbound or outbound call received while on duty, not for company business will be grounds to charge you! Besides, don't the radios still allow you to place a phone call?

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 05 October 2008 I left out one important thing our radios on CSX as with other railroads have an emergency code on them if pressed the world stops at the dispatch center. Of course if your in a dead spot use your cell phone. It doesn't take a genious to figure that one out. LMFAO

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 05 October 2008 slack action Why not go read the emergency bill before spouting off. It doesn't ban cell phones for company use they left that up to each individual railroad to determine. CSX in their rules allow cell phones to be used for company use. You people get it all wrong make judgements before knowing the facts. It's only 30 pages you can find it on the BLET or UTU website. The surprising fact was the FRA/congress didn't take action sooner on page 26 it list several other infractions because of personal cell phone use. The difference this time we let down the public and killed 24 innocent people an injured 135. It's apparent if we kill each other as railroaders it's alright. As for the piss poor rating of TD's they have my respect. They are forced to deal with multiple subdivisions and yards under their control. So, if they don't respond to you immediately because your special I guess their dealing with the other 20+ trains, road switchers, locals, yard movements, track forces, sending train orders ect...it's our responsibilty to be have patience.

Name: Chief Dispatcher E-mail: Employed as: Train Dispatcher, for 10-20 years Posted: 04 October 2008 Hahahaha... you crews don't have to answer your phones... I work off of your cell phone numbers to get my job done. If you stop answering your phones while on the train/cabs (you all will make my job a living hell and trains will stop) I don't know whats worse, sitting on a train for 13 hours watching trains go around you or sitting at my desk wondering how in the hell I'm going to get recrews for the multiple trains outlawed with Eng/Conductors marked off (GOD BLESS Ya). I'm not being sarcastic. I could write pages upon pages...but I need sleep

Name: J H E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 04 October 2008 THE u.t.u. SOLD OUT THE FLAJMAN AND THE BRAKEMAN AND I DONOT FEEL LIKE THEY PUT UP A GOOD FIGHT WE ALL TOOK A LITTLE PAY OFF AND THE PEOPLE REPRESENTION US FROM TOP TO BOTTOM SAID IT WAS A GOOD DEAL.I WONDER WHAT BRIBE OR PAY THEY GOT.THE PRESIDENT BUSH AND THE SENATE AND THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTIVES HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.IT IS ONLY A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE THE CONDUCTOR ON MOST TRAINS IS HISTORY.WE CAN ONLY BLAME THE ONES THAT IS IN CHARGE OF THE U.T.U.ALL THE PEOPLE WORKING ON THE RAILROAD SHOULD HAVE STARTED MERGING WITH EACH OTHER A LONG TIME AGO INSTEAD OF TRYING TO TAKE OVER ANOTHER ONE JOB . IT IS PROBABLY TOO LATE NOW.THANKS U.T.U. IN A MATTER OF TIME THE U.T.U WILL NOT EXIT.

Name: slack action E-mail: Employed as: M of W, for 10-20 years Posted: 04 October 2008 Okay, so the FRA has banned cell phones. I hope that Amtrak does not have an emergency where they have to call a dispr on the radio.. Because the radios on CSX are pitiful. There are numerous places that have dead spots and trains cannot tone up the dispr... Oh well, I guess they will worry about that one when it comes up...

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 04 October 2008 There's nothing wrong with PTC. It's up to our unions to make sure it doesn't get used for the wrong reason. If the unions don't do their job to protect us it's not the fault of congress. This is prime time to make sure crew reductions aren't going to happen. If there were two people in the Metrolink cab the head-on wouldn't of happened. Who would of thought anyone would of been text messaging while running up to the last 22 seconds before impact. As of last night the feds banned cell phones on railroad property in an emergency order. There are a lot of good issues in the rail safety bill and some not so good. The UP's been trying to get one man crews for a while the UTU had to take then to court over the crew consist and they won.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 03 October 2008 "How many jobs were lost to outsourcing during the Repo's control in congress/ White house during 2001-2006." Yeah, I'm sure glad we have a democratically controlled congress that passed this. NOT!!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 03 October 2008 j h Wrong the railroads are already foaming at the mouth with the rail safety bills requirement of PTC on all locomotives by 2015. This in their opinion will fulfill their desire for one person trains. The UP is jumping in excitement already cruching numbers that after the cost to install PTC the bottom line by reducing crew size creates an increase in profits of 17-18%. This will be a big fight and do we trust congress to take the side of the union/employees? At the present time I don't think so. Think about that when you go to the polling booth at election time this year. How many jobs were lost to outsourcing during the Repo's control in congress/ White house during 2001-2006. Americans lost a lot of good jobs over corporate greed with goverment sanctioned tax breaks. Enough is enough it's time for the American middle class to revolt by ousting these morons.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for N/A Posted: 02 October 2008 Responsibility: Workplace "Our success as a company begins with how we treat one another at work. We sustain an ethical culture by treating our co-workers with respect and dignity." - Tony Ingram, Chief Operating Officer, CSX Transportation Safety We have rules. We have procedures. We have Personal Protective Equipment. Every single employee is tested and certified on their knowledge and practice. LEARN MORE Diversity We respect differences, we reward teamwork, and we treasure and capitalize on talent wherever we find it. Training Talent and potential are in every part of our organization. Our mission is to spot it, develop it, and help the people who possess it to make the most of it - for their benefit and for ours.

Name: j h E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 02 October 2008 i think the best thing that came out of the train accident that killed so many people in CALIF. WAS THE TRUTH OF THE ACCIDENT WAS IF ONLY THERE HAD BEEN ANOTHER PERSON ON THE LEAD ENGINE THIS MAY HAVE BEEN PREVENTED. THIS ACCIDENT JUST MAY HAVE KEPT TWO PEOPLE ON EACH TRAIN FOR A LONG TIME.IT IS BEST THING THAT HAPPENED FOR THE THE U T U IN A LONG TIME. JUST MAYBE THEY WILL NOT SELL THE CONDUCTOR JOB NOW.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 26 September 2008 THAT DUDE WAS SUPPOSEDLY STANDING IN THE GAGE NO RADIO OR LANTERN SUPPOSEDLY THE TRAIN WAS BLOWING THROUGH CROSS BUCKS RIGHT BEFORE THE INCIDENT

Name: Ugly Stik E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years Posted: 20 September 2008 Hey there, Has anyone heard of the new Road Foreman of Engines in Birmingham. Suppose to be working on the Lineville side. They say his name is Kurt *****?. What's his name? They say he's Joel "RA RA" Hudson's brother in law. Is this a ethical policy violation? Where'd he come from, the jail cells of New Orleans? Also, it was said that Tom May is Joel Hudson's father in law. Is this True? ANYONE KNOW THESE PEOPLE?

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 20 September 2008 Goober If the RFE questioned my decision that day it would of been over text messaging. If this person was so preoccupied that just a simple introduction interfered with what he considered more important then it's his problem not mine. I've been to the RFE, I've been to the mentors training newbies it appears they don't give a crap. Unfortunately it might of took a tragidy to open up peoples minds. It wasn't till reading an article yesterday about the California head-on that there might be more behind the reasons it happened. The Metrolinks engineers boyfriend (he was gay) committed suicide two months earlier because he had Aides, the engineer had law troubles being charged with grand larceny, mabey health problems with diabetes ect...I certianly hope this wasn't suicide by train. The text messaging as tragic as it was would be the lessor of evils as to a cause. Which there is no lessor of anything when it comes down to human error.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 19 September 2008 Hey Loco 30: The rule regarding use of cell phones has been in place for a good while...it never stopped anyone. Some TMs would even call your cell knowing you were on duty and then charge you. Then they want you to use your cell to contact them in the event of an emergency or for company business. If that's what CSX wants, maybe they should supply the cell and enforce their own rules. How many of us have had a RFE or LOR TM in the cab on the cell for the entire trip. In yard service, how many run through switches or personal injuries have been caused because of cell phone use? Cell phones allow the XB and pool men tremendous freedom, gives them the ability to leave home during their off time. But like marking off, is being abused by a few, which will ruin it for everyone!

Name: goober E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 19 September 2008 LE 30 Nice job send them home! However do it for the RIGHT reason. NOT Introducing their self is not a reason to send someone home. Tex on the cell phone is the reason. Better get it right, and right the first time, and have the Foreman on your side friend. GOOFY

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 19 September 2008 I recently sent an engineer trainee home refusing to take him. Reason it wasn't till over an hour in to the shift waiting on paper work my yard foreman informed me I had a trainee. I walked in to the shack noticed this person texting away just as I noticed before I knew who he was, I told him if he didn't have enough respect for his crew to introduce himself he didn't belong with us. I hope they totally ban cell phones it's about time. The phone conversations were enough of a distraction text messages became a total distraction unless someone can type while not looking down or read them without looking they are not giving 100%. If this tragidy in California was a result of text messaging hopefully it'll wake up the rail industry to finally take action. In fact there are rules in place about cell phone use on CSX. No one can use them while riding or operating moving equipment. They can be used only for company business.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 18 September 2008 Hey Loco 1-10: I will agree, had there been a conductor in the cab the odds are good this accident might not have happened. There have been however numerous accidents like this over the last few years where full crews were involved. Talking on a cell phone is bad enough...but texting? At least while you talk you can pay some attention; you're completely preoccupied while typing a text message! I personally think a one man crew is unsafe as the industry stands today. It will take years to implement PTC and years longer to work the glitches out. Just look at the RC operations and that is basically all yard service!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 18 September 2008 How come nobody brings up the fact that there was only one man in that cab? The railroads want one man train crews as quick as they can get them, yet accidents like this will never bring up the fact that one man crews are not safe! It still could have been avoided with another set of eyes.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 17 September 2008 The simplest and safest thing to do, is leave your cell phone alone. The engineer missed two signals...the approach and the stop. It cost him and 24 or 25 innocent people, who were dependent on the engineer, their lives. The union can raise questions about the signals or the glare of the sun or the lack of a conductor in the cab...eye wash. I've seen too many people injured or killed because they were talking on cell phones. The greatest safety advance on the RR was the radio...the worst safety threat today on the RR is the cell phone. Communications, go figure. Like the NRA says..."guns don't kill people, people do" It isn't cell phones that kill people...it's the morons using them that kill people! And, by the way, there's no difference between a locomotive engineer, aircraft pilot or the driver of a car or truck!

Name: figures E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years Posted: 17 September 2008 rail buff engineer wants his piture taken ,texts other rail buffs for that picture, ends up eating a motor, here comes a hole new set of rules and regs to live by ,thanks buffy

Name: goober E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 16 September 2008 This is simply what happens, when folks want to work. I remember this line of road with many more than 30. Yep all of the Union folks may be gone, I have no idea. If they are, They earned it. Call one on your phone, and they are not CSX Sucks regular posters, just folks making a good living, and enjoying LIFE. GOOFY -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Evansville Western on Right Track Posted on: Thursday, 18 January 2007, 00:00 CST By BYRON ROHRIG, Courier & Press staff writer 464-7426 or rohrigb@courierpress.com There were some bumpy rides during the inaugural year of the Evansville Western Railway. But overall, A.V. "Tony" Reck, president and chief executive of a company that includes the 124-mile short line, says he's happy with the trip. And he likes what he sees down the track. Two days before 2006 dawned, Evansville Western assumed CSX Transportation's St. Louis Subdivision, connecting Okawville in Southern Illinois with CSX's Howell Yard in Evansville. Paducah & Louisville Railway won a bidding contest, bought the track and ties and signed a lease for 20 years with a renewal option. The new EVWR, as it is designated in its official reporting marks, set up shop in Mount Vernon, Ind., home of its largest customers. By the end of 2006, it had moved some 55,000 freight carloads. Neither EVWR nor CSX could anticipate everything. CSX had used Howell Yard for storing rail cars and putting them together into trains, but with Howell out of the picture for Evansville Western, "we were hamstrung for the first six months or so. We literally built a new yard," Reck said. The facility west of Indiana 69 in Mount Vernon commanded a goodly chunk of the carrier's $5.5 million capital budget in 2006. Another large allocation went for buying and rebuilding used locomotives for the line's current fleet of nine. CSX, one of a few American rail behemoths, is indispensible to the national rail system and to short lines that feed it. Nonetheless, it gets bad marks -- along with counterparts, including Norfolk Southern and Union Pacific and virtually all large railroads throughout U.S. rail history -- in tailoring service to the needs of smaller customers. Railroaders and customers agree Evansville Western created a new environment where everybody, including CSX, is coming out a winner. "CSX sold the railroad and yet kept most of the business," Reck said. Evansville Western's main connect to the outside world is by feeding carloads to CSX at Howell. For EVWR, "financially, we've done excellent," Reck added. Customers, too, are glad to benefit from a short line's characteristic aim to please. Top Ag Cooperative, with elevators at the western end of the line at Okawville, was too small to load on its own a 65-car unit grain train within allotted time, usually 48 hours. That spawned three problems: Top Ag paid much more per carload to ship; it sometimes couldn't get empty cars, because big railroads would sooner allocate empty cars to a large-unit train than to small elevators wanting 15 cars; and many markets -- large chicken feeders in the Southeast, for example -- were beyond its reach: economics dictated their demand for 65 loads in a unit train instead of Top Ag's 15 cars at a time. So Greg Phelps, EVWR's head of sales and business development, got together with Dale Tippett, Top Ag's general manager and with his counterpart at Peavy Grain in McLeansboro, Ill., also a smaller elevator. Could Top Ag and Peavy combine on a unit train? CSX policy was against "breaking a train" that way, but Evansville Western was game. It took months to put the deal together. "It wasn't just us," Phelps said. "(Top Ag and Peavy) had to do some things to make it work." The result was a series of EVWR unit trains, laden with cargo from both elevators, delivered to Howell Yard for hook-and-haul by CSX to big-ticket clients. "It's definitely helped us maintain our business and move forward," Tippett said. "If we hadn't been able to do unit trains, it wouldn't have let us bid as aggressively for customers' grain. a Our advantage has been to keep and maintain our customer base." A big shipper closer to home, Mount Vernon's GE Plastics, now has a nearby yard for storing cars for its outbound loads. Result: faster service. At Southwind Maritime Centre, rail customers big and small say they're pleased. "From the general manager to conductors and engineers (the railroad employs 30), all have great attitudes, workmanship and service are good and their time frames are accurate," said Taylor Kanipe, general manager of Mount Vernon Transfer Terminal. The rail-to-barge coal handler at Southwind moved 2.2 million tons of coal in 2006, up 10 percent from the year before. Kanipe says coal's future is bright. Scrubber systems on more power plants mean the area's higher sulfur coal is in demand again. Reck said two new mines may start up along the Evansville Western line in Illinois within five years. Coal was a huge part of the more than 4 million tons moved through the port in 2006. That tonnage was the biggest since 1998, and part of a mostly steady climb since 2000, when tonnage was 2.1 million, said the Indiana Port Commission's Jody Peacock. Part of the port's mix is Agrium Inc., a comparatively tiny shipper, where manager Roger Drake also sees in EVWR a "better fit." Agrium gets 100 to 300 cars yearly. Three ethanol plants now in some stage of development in Posey County, Ind., should bring a big traffic boost, too. The railroad is talking with another ethanol manufacturer about a plant in Southern Illinois, Phelps said. (c) 2007 Evansville Courier & Press. Provided by ProQuest Information and Learning. All rights Reserved. Source: Evansville Courier & Press

Name: wildman E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 15 September 2008 Dork Boggs ain't real. He's been asked many questions about CSX that he can't answer.This made him mad and he seems to have left. I do miss him though,he sure stirred thing up here at "Asleep at the wheel". Hope you're enjoying your retirement.

Name: dork E-mail: i do Employed as: Car repair, for 20-30 years Posted: 12 September 2008 it would almost be worth it to come out of retirement to take down the boggman..i knocked a few off their high horse in federal court and boggs would be easy..but then so is retirement..hey boggs,,,,,,,can't touch this........but you can give me a reach around..

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 12 September 2008 Has anyone heard who the new road foremans are and where they are going? Hope we dont get another jackass....

Name: Wildman E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 12 September 2008 That ain't Boggs. The spelling and writing style are all wrong.He IS screamin' though!

Name: MR. BR BOGGS E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 10-20 years Posted: 11 September 2008 I AM STILL HERE NOW THAT YOU ASKED. I STILL MAKE THE BEST COFFEE IN THE OFFICE, DO AS I AM TOLD, AND MY PROMOTION WILL BE COMING SOON! WHEN IT DOES COME, I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO ORDERING YOU GUYS AROUND AND EVEN FIRING A FEW. LOOK OUT BECAUSE THE BOGGMASTER IS COMING TO A TOWN NEAR YOU!

Name: dork E-mail: yes Employed as: Car repair, for 20-30 years Posted: 11 September 2008 What happend to the wannabee B R Boggs..did the little man get fired for pretending to be a railroader..did someone finally beat him with an airhose.i miss the dumbass.......

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 09 September 2008 September 9, 2008 & CSX STILL SUCKS!!! This website is great!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 07 September 2008 It's back. This was a long shutdown.

Name: C&O JOE E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 24 August 2008 hey ha ha, Your one of those Shelby/Martin guys arnt you? If so, what are you bitching about? You whine when they don't pull you to protect Russell pool jobs as an engineer, but as soon as they do you get qualified and immediatly begin the whining, crying, bitching, cycle to try and flow back so you can run back to deliverance, KY to work as a trainman and slip through the cracks and in the end their still short of engineers. You pull this shit to be assured you stay on the sandy without running the risk of being pulled for the kanawha or the northern. If you want to run the engine mark your ass up at Russell and it will become a reality. Otherwise quit crying and wait your turn. Your not losing seniority, when they do pull you you'll take your proper spot. I work in the coalfields. They don't pull us when they need mainline engineers and it took years of fighting to make it that way. Ask the guys that got forced to cincinati from danville. If you start pushing that bullshit your going to fuck it up for everyone. They have lots of guys alot younger than me running the engine out of Russell but that was the deal in order to be able to stay at your home terminal without losing seniority. If you mark up at Russell they will pull you real soon. Why would they pull someone from 124 miles away at Shelby when they need engineers at Russell? Be thankful you have the ability to stay home and work your locals without losing your future engineer seniorty. You Havn't lost or been denied anything, if you want to work at Shelby stay at Shelby and wait your turn.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 20 August 2008 Corman's helicopter flying over short line yesterday

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 20 August 2008 When the railroads can afford the PTC technology which they say costs billions, you will see one man trains. Don't think for a second that the unions will stop it when all they do is sell jobs and agreements.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 19 August 2008 I know one person that has bypassed going into engine service for over 10 years. He holds some good jobs as a trainmen. He has well over 150 people behind him in seniority. I don't expect to see the loss of trainmen on freight pools in my time left on the railroad, but once the matter is brought forth like it has the railroads will persue it till it becomes a reality. Hopefully some form of protection will be involved to let people thru attrition take those jobs with them when they retire. The railroads would still win there would be no need to fill a job if someone is off. It pretty much would eliminate extra boards. Worst part do you trust our unions in their present state to do the right thing?

Name: R.E.Turner E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 19 August 2008 Could the employee in question go to engine school and then after the training program is through with him,sign a flowback agreement? This is quite common in my area.You can take the transfer,then when a good job becomes available,relinquish the flowback and take the desirable job. Whatever happens,don't let anyone get around you or you'll regret it one day or another.I guess there is a certain number of times you can bypass transfer and not lose anything.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 18 August 2008 Wildman One fact I did learn if a trainmen has plenty of junior employees behind them they can decline going into engine service. If their seniority is right they can work good jobs without having life disrupted by starting at the bottom again. Their safe as long as we still have conductors on freight trains. If the railroads ever get their way like they tried last contracts those who opted to bypass engine service would be screwed resigned to yard service with the RCO. I don't take heed to any story that the railroads intentionally bypassed anyone one phone call would correct that situation. Seniority is everything and it is one issue the unions will fight.

Name: Wildman E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 17 August 2008 If you aren't being "asked" to go to engine school then you need to start telling them you want to go! If your seniority isn't being honored then you need to force the issue! Who isn't letting you exercise your rights? Local officials? Local chairman? Crew management? This problem could be easily solved with a phone call. If it can't you need to tell us more about the circumstances.

Name: ha ha E-mail: csxsucks@lickmynuts.wtf Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 16 August 2008 Name: Wildman E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 07 August 2008 ha ha; Csx doesn't honor seniority? That's pretty much carved in stone isn't it? I've never had any problem whatsoever with being able to exercise my seniority. Contracts are another matter! Since only about half the trainmen and engineers voted in the last contract balloting,what would make CSX think they have to honor anything? What would the penalties be? They figure if no one cares who's going to enforce the contracts. If we would start holding the company to the letter of the law,so to speak,and claim ALL the things allowed under these contracts,they would think about it before they tried to screw you. I'll admit there are a lot of holes in these contracts but that's our fault as well as the General Chairmen for not seeing them before the vote.................................................................. on the big sandy, they ignore contracts and seniority, ive never been asked to engine school and last time i checked, over 60 men have marked up as engineer in front of me. this work environment sucks and i dont see it getting better, so everybody watch your backs and your brothers too, remember we are a family, like it or not.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 15 August 2008 I am so proud to see most of my fellow employees not kidding themselves about how goddamned poorly CSX treats their employees! CSX management reeks of a mean-spirited stupidity. How many times have we heard, "They make money inspite of themselves!"? In my own personal experience (and that is fairly broad), I have never felt so unappreciated and taken advantage of as I have working here. Cutting jobs, getting beaten by Payroll. Weak-ass UTU won't do anything for you. Asshole management trying to fire you over piddling bullshit just to make themselves look good! Bastards hiding in the bushes to see if you're using a brake stick and them firing you if you didn't because you would have had to walk a mile to go get one! Safety pricks trying to make their quotas and go home and not seeing the forest for the trees. Government wanting to fine you for making mistakes that you wouldn't have made if you hadn't been called out on short rest or at 3 o'clock at night in the pouring rain... and now forcing us to actually allow them to see the urine come out of our penises! Talk about sexual harrassment! I think you are all some of the best, hardest working guys I have ever met and this company should bend over backwards to kiss each of your asses! But we all know these sorry, greedy bastards will take each of us for granted until the day we retire, are fired, get slightly hurt or permanently killed, or simply ran off 'cause we can't take the bullshit any longer. I hope God greatly blesses each of you for the misery you have had to endure from this company on a daily basis... and that fat, lazy slob of an engineer's wife and Tony Ingram fan can shut her ignorant mouth.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 15 August 2008 anyone on the albany divison, theres a engineer outta selkirk named tom martin, hes the biggest back stabbing snitch in the terminal, hes about 400 pounds of cocksucking bitch. you cant miss him. he went into the "management buddy program" or as i like to call it the "man-meat buddy program". he blows ppl in for everything you can think of, from "that guy had a beer with dinner mr. trainmaster" to "that guy went and started his car b4 he made his ticket off". really grimy sleeze ball stuff, he thinks blowing his brothers in for this sorta stuff will help him become a trainmaster, but i think the trainmasters even know that this guy cant be trusted, this slime ball needs a date with a knuckle, if you ever have the oprotunity to meet him walk away, or he may blow you in for not wearing your saftey glasses.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 14 August 2008 FUCK THE B&O, THE C&O, THE SCL AND WHOEVER WANTS TO RUN WITH IT; IT'S THE L&N THAT IS THE FUCKING BACK BONE OF CSX...TRY TO CONTEST

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 14 August 2008 Its Wednesday August 13, 2008 and CSXT still SUCKS!

Name: R.E.Turner E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 12 August 2008 B&O hogger; This story has been carried on by a letter forewarded by a yarmaster at BJ concerning the moratorium put in effect when the B&O cluster was offered for lease in 2004. The moratorium has indeed expired but I have seen nothing on the BLE website or any other news sites about reopening the negotiations with R.J Corman or any other shortline company. I hope this is truly the case and not just an oversight on my part.I haven't worked since thursday so anything could have developed since then. So until something comes out in writing that's reliable I wouldn't sweat it.If anyone has reliable news please post it up and we'll all start sweatin'.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 12 August 2008 b&o hogger Where did you hear that????

Name: B&O hogger E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 11 August 2008 It's official now.......Grafton and Parkersburg will be leased to R.J.Corman Railroad before the end of the year.

Name: Wildman E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 10 August 2008 That's unreal to think that many people didn't care. Are they lazy? Stupid? My feelings exactly!!!! To answer your question,,,It's both!!!! Lazy AND stupid. I'm sure they're the same people who don't vote in national elections either.They have a mental problem that won't let them make decisions so they do nothing,hoping that someone else will take care of them. I've read somewhere that 99% of the earth's population would starve to death if people had to rely on themselves instead of a government.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 09 August 2008 What needs addressing is why 49% of the BLET members didn't vote? That's unreal to think that many people didn't care. Are they lazy? Stupid? I can't buy the old adage that it's already a done deal my vote doesn't matter. It does matter. These are the same people that bitch and complain everyday that the union doesn't do anything for me. First off there is no "Me" in union it's "Us". Till people get it through their tiny craniums that we are the union we are screwed. Change can happen you can get rid of the higher ups not alone but as a union.

Name: Wildman E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 09 August 2008 LE 30+ The bonus program has already been undermined if you ask me! The last payment was for 5.4%,if my memory is correct,and the head cheeses all got huge bonuses last year.The worst thing is the BLET signed the contract with a stipulation that CSX controls the calculation of the bonus WITH NO ARGUEMENT FROM THE UNIONS!!!! This is a classic case of the fox guarding the chickenhouse.I mentioned this before the contract went up for a vote but,as usual no one paid any attention. I don't know what the future brings but if anybody thinks CSX is going to be fair and impartial when calculating payments they are certifiable idiots. Like you said,CSX can pay the management bonuses in anything they want from dollars to vacation trips.Verifying compensation for things like,,,,intangibles,,,,, is almost impossible especially when the General Chairmen are going along for the ride.These guys can't be that stupid to think we don't see what's going on!!!! Every contract I've ever seen has been full of loopholes big enough to fit a train tunnel in,walls and all,and there's no reason to think it's going to change.The only way to fix this is to vote them all out and get some "untouchables" in office.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 09 August 2008 The Dearborn Div...I don't believe I'd told that! Now everyone will know your name. Hope you like getting your clock cleaned. They'll all be gunning for you...Sheriff!

Name: MR.BR.BOGGS E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 10-20 years Posted: 08 August 2008 Hey you guys, important info for you all from the office this morn, hmmm making coffee too, Got a call from the GM he likes my work so much that he asked if i would take a job as a superintendent on the dearborn div, got to ask my wife and kids if they want to move there, but i am boss and now me a super... he he he see how far you can go in managment if you do a good job, probably next year so beware,, there will be a new sheriff in town who will take no BS from any of you on that div. ha ha just wanted all you mark off peeps to know this, as i will not tolerate mark offs for you weekend warriors, it will be a reg letter for investgation and strick disipline with me calling the outcome of your fate.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 08 August 2008 Swiss cheese has less holes than our contracts. When issues are left unresolved you can consider it's a dead issue. Both unions have done this with promises of continuing talks under resolution committes. So far in the BLET SSA nothing has been resolved. In fact most issues discussed have benefitted the railroad. That is the continuous cycle of change. No contract should be ratified until all issues are taken care of in there entirety. Thank gawd, I only have one more contract to deal with after this one expires. For those Engineers under the SSA. We have to make a choice by Sept 14th, 2009 to stay in or opt out of the PBP. If you think CSX will honor paying bonuses then vote to continue, if not we can resort to the national contract with the pay raises. Think about it? Does CSX pay your good claims on time if ever under the SSA? Bonus programs aren't new NS has had them for years. Now the NS Engineers want out because the bonuses can be manipulated. It's real simple the railroads can provide bonuses to top management other than monetary, more stock options at a reduced rate. This would greatly affect the bonus program. BNSF Engineers at first recieved a whooping 38% as the guideline for their bonus program, I do believe the union did get some relief because of record profits. I like pay raises it's something that can't be taken away.

Name: Wildman E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 07 August 2008 ha ha; Csx doesn't honor seniority? That's pretty much carved in stone isn't it? I've never had any problem whatsoever with being able to exercise my seniority. Contracts are another matter! Since only about half the trainmen and engineers voted in the last contract balloting,what would make CSX think they have to honor anything? What would the penalties be? They figure if no one cares who's going to enforce the contracts. If we would start holding the company to the letter of the law,so to speak,and claim ALL the things allowed under these contracts,they would think about it before they tried to screw you. I'll admit there are a lot of holes in these contracts but that's our fault as well as the General Chairmen for not seeing them before the vote.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 04 August 2008 Some food for thought...someone finally said it! http://www.snopes.com:80/politics/soapbox/iacocca.asp

Name: ha ha E-mail: lickmynuts@csx.blows Employed as: CSX Contractor, for 10-20 years Posted: 03 August 2008 you go no body- after taxes, ins, union sucks cut, and old farts cut, thats all you will have left, change. all we have is seniority and a contract, and its obvious, csx wont honor either. and btw- csx management sucks, the job itself is great. and yea i dun it, i posted in every forum, so go ahead and lick my nuts!

Name: MR. BR.BOGGS E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 10-20 years Posted: 02 August 2008 I told all you imposters before, I am the real BR.BOGGS!!! I am the secretary who makes the coffee, I get down on my knees for my company, and I will still be in charge of the Atlanta Division sometime in the next 30 years. Last but not least, work safe, don't get hurt, and STOP working by that rule book! The budgets are going through the roof with all that overtime. You people gotta speed it up, get that dwell time down, and stop outlawing all them trains. TCI will be taking control soon, and my promotion will come into play soon after. Watch out for your local field of weeds because Mr.Boggs will be watching you.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 02 August 2008 Name: MR.BR.BOGGS You guys better stop the bitching, oh you can bitch,, But you will do the work the way we tell you too or ELSE!!! And be thankfull that some of you are getting a 1 hr quit, we do not have to give you all anything, Most people i know would kiss the ground, CSX property for a chance to work for a good paying job that we provide for all of you cry babies, But little man Boggs, the people you know would do whatever they could to get out of the bus station. And they would kiss more than the ground. But thanks for the laugh. You are always good for a chuckle.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Friend or family of employee, for N/A Posted: 02 August 2008 If you happen to work in Birmingham and run into an EN Smith id ***113 be careful he is a snitch. who else would like to start a snitch list for csx-sucks.

Name: pinch@loaf E-mail: Employed as: Car repair, for 20-30 years Posted: 02 August 2008 Man,,,i thought little man boggs dropped off the east end of the yard...glad he is back.whenever he is surfing porn is less time laying in the weeds..what an idiot...maybe he will follow pines out on a slow coal drag..Now fire up a fat boy while he is inside whacking off......

Name: MR.BR.BOGGS E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 10-20 years Posted: 01 August 2008 You guys better stop the bitching, oh you can bitch,, But you will do the work the way we tell you too or ELSE!!! And be thankfull that some of you are getting a 1 hr quit, we do not have to give you all anything, Most people i know would kiss the ground, CSX property for a chance to work for a good paying job that we provide for all of you cry babies, Got to go now and get the e-mails for today and faxes,,Some of us do have to work for a living and not sleep while at work like a lot of you all do, You all do not have any right to bitch, We at the top brass will call the shots and if you do not like it then quit.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 01 August 2008 you nailed it- the early quit people are the ones that are holding us back. i wish they would catch on, but im not holding my breath

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 01 August 2008 You're right, we don't need a strike and we can't strike by law. We need a system wide slow down! Don't think for a second that management wouldn't drop to there knees. Just remember to work by those rules!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 01 August 2008 We don't need a strike to get our point across... just follow the rules and things will slow down almost like a strike! If we could get everyone in our terminal to comply and slow down, we would be able to ask for, and get anything we wanted. But no... the self-named "quit faggots" in the yards in my terminal will run around like their hair's on fire to get a 1 hour quit! A 1 hour quit... are you f'n kidding me? Gee, let me work 7 hours straight with no lunch and you'll "reward" me with a 1 hour quit? How about I come in for lunch, work 7 hours and 59 minutes before you cut me off because God-forbid if I got any overtime, and you'll get about 20% of the work done that you gave me at the beginning of my shift? And then, all of those trains would have to be tied down outside of yard limits because you'll have nowhere to yard them. If everyone united to do this... I'm talking to all my "union brothers"... do you think management might have to listen to what we have to say? Of course they would... they'd be so panicked to save their own jobs after the first conference call that they got screamed at on! But it would require 100% compliance by 100% of the workers... and that, unfortunately, is the problem. Everyone talks about how great it USED to be and what they USED to do and not do, but NO ONE is willing to do what's needed to get things back to the way it USED to be!

Name: Noh Bodi E-mail: hammerhead_73@hotmail.com Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 31 July 2008 If working for CSX sucks soooo badly, the doors are open. Nothing is keeping you from getting another job. If its as bad as this site says, just quit. Also, this is a free country. ever heard of eminent domain? If you're not happy with the rules or policies, try to CHANGE them. On a side note, I even considered employment with CSX. I saw this site and went to it with an open mind to see both sides of the arguement. I may still try to get a job with them. maybe i can work for some CHANGE

Name: concerned conductor E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 31 July 2008 Hey Caring Trainmaster, You might want to check on DICK REED out of Avon Yard, IN. (Now he has been demoted to line of road because he screwed up the yard so much) He tried to order a friend engineer of mine on a work train recrew to move his two engines to opposite ends of the train, then have the conductor ride on the second engine with his foot on the dead man pedal so it wouldn't go off because they couldn't disable it. It was screwed up and would throw them in penalty even in trail. So much for you saying us dumb shits get hurt for not following the rules.

Name: austin E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 30 July 2008 csx is the best and when i growup i went to drive a csx

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 30 July 2008 July 29, 2008 & CSX STILL SUCKS!!!!

Name: Wildman E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for Less than 1 year Posted: 30 July 2008 STRIKE,did somebody say STRIKE??????????? We've got to have a better reason than percieved incompetence of officers,though the idea is well served. I've seen,in the last few years,so many "off property" officers conducting business from golf courses and beer joints that I wonder how any train gets called.The other afternoon the T/M called the yard office but the yarmaster was outside talking on his cell phone while rooting through the pigpen he calls a car.When he heard my voice on the other end of the line he must have had the bartender turn the jukebox down 'cause I heard the music fade down real quick.I could still hear the boozehounds hooting in the background so I know that's where he was calling from. Calling a strike because of strict enforcement of rules won't get very far but slowing down and getting 100% compliance will.

Name: BoxcarBob@ Dewitt E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 28 July 2008 Well I guess you said it all baby. The reason that they have all these checks and counter checks is because their training policy is so lame that they have no confidence that anyone knows what to actually do. The supervisors sure don't and its easy to tell just look at the lack of experience they show. Mindless storm troopers from a nazi youth league who may not understand how to get the work done just how to run your ass ragged with all these foolish mandates. Not to worry. I would just reccommend strike at many different locations starting with the albany service lane and working its way across CSX. That's Crummy, Shitty and Xcessive Today and everyday.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 28 July 2008 We have a Bigfoot flash wolfman yuk yuk naploeon-little hitler-the general weasel pipes winky

Name: lloyd christmas E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 27 July 2008 10 dumbest rules CSX has. 1. You can release that 3-step..Im in the clear of all track. As opposed to, you can release that 3-step, im in the middle of the track, shove on back and put me out of my fucking misery. 2. Tie those hand brakes and test them. Well, holy shit idiots, if you put the hand brakes on the cars then I would suppose that they work if they are on right? 3. Calling signals. Gee dispatcher, if you gave us a green fucking signal I guess that means its okay to proceed right? 4. Wearing safety glasses IN THE LOCOMOTIVE. Just what exactly is going to fly in our eyes...we can't exactly protect our eyes from that burning sensation we sometimes get because the fucking bathroom smells so horrendous. 5. Marking off on weekends. Dont you fucking assholes realize that people actually have lives and would like to see their kids at some point before they are old and out of the house? 6. Watching shoving movements whether you can see the end of your train..or not. Are you fucking retards serious? If some dumb piece of shit wants to randomly walk behind my shove when I can see the end of my cut, he probably just needs to get ran over anyway. 7. Requesting radio check before starting communication. Well gee George, I guess we must all be fucking retards out here. Maybe if someone doesn't respond that could mean you don't have a good radio. 8. Putting the T at the end of CSX. Really, what the fuck does it matter? Are you assholes really running out of things to fuck with people about or do you want to enforce this rule on a certain day because someone wiped their ass with your toothbrush. 9. Calling stop every 15 minutes. Are you idiots serious? Who's fault is it in the first place if we have a red signal? If you fuckers can't run trains right then don't expect us to suffer because of it. You try calling stop every 15 minutes for 4 hours and see just how ridiculous it is. Guess what dumb shits, you know where we are and it doesn't need to be announced. 10. Walking 25 feet in front of the engines before crossing. Honestly, do you officials really think that we are going to cross in front of a moving engine unless we have a death wish? I sure do love making overtime from all your stupid fucking rules. I also love how your payroll fucks everyone for every nickel and dime they can so this company can keep that stock and profit up. Keep fucking with us CSX because we are all on the brink of saying enough is enough. It will be highly entertaining to see all those trains without any engineers or conductors for about 2 weeks. Bring on the strike baby.

Name: kr briggs E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 20-30 years Posted: 25 July 2008 FU Bossman, at least CONRAIL treated the men with a bit of respect unlike today were all of you officals want to screw everyone!!! I would like to know were they find pricks like you.. HELL?? In the CONRAIL days we did managment favors and they returned it with mabey a good EQ or such or would cover your ass for a minor thing like a run switch or minor derailment in the yard, Now all you pricks want to do is fire everyone, Go hide in the weeds and i hope you get poison ivy or something worse like a sock of 5 right in the puss were you need it, Sort of odd is it not that people like do not want to be seen in public,,, I WONDER WHY???

Name: RJG E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years Posted: 25 July 2008 Do you have funny nicknames in your terminal? Seems like evryone with a personality has a nickname. These are some of the names in Philly i can think of: Bob "the bullet" Gavula Paul "pop-pop" Secan Rick Heater "Heat-man" Charlie Buxton "Big Duke" Horace Sanders "Shaft" Jim Tucci "Godfather" Mark Bonofacino "Psycho" John Bartello "Shortline" Phil Deery "Needles" Barry Schneider "The CUP" Mark Riesett "Pugsly" Brad Walter "Fart Sniffer" Billy Betson "War Club" Jack Kelly "Dog Face" Larry Bittner "Butthead" Bob Ludka "BUBBA" Kevin Sweeney "Pig-pen" Jim Lloyd "The Predator" Joe Mehaffey "Joey Rogaine" Tony Bonelli "Bloopey" Rich Madden "Hoagie Nose" Kerry Stewart "Voo-Doo" Chuck Moore "Conrail Creeper" Phil Gibson "Michael Jackson" Jim Martino "Ewok" Glen Brown "Rick James" Tom Weldon "Tighty Whitey" Mark Posserina "Split-Peas" Ryan Keating "Skeeter" Danny McIntyre "Sarge" Rocky Luciano "The Scraper" Lee Henderson "Man-Dingo" Leon Harris "Big-worm" Kyle Brightbill "the little homo" Geroge Tompkins "Sarge" Greg Brecker "Ned Flanders" Tom Bolling "zipper head" Joe Sakeley "Shakey" Quinten Watford "Q" John Milby "Super Scooper" Delores Truesdale "Princess" Jimmy "The Load" Cannon Greg Wiggins "Wiggy" Nick "The power shifter" Brodar Sam "Boo-boo" Zacharda Mike Brungard "Bossman" Ron Smith "Smitty" "Big Daddy" Radu Creanga "Count Dracula" Mark Chalupa "Freddy Krueger" AJ Dubin "Dirty Dubin" Dave Halle "Dirty Dave" Kevin Harris "Talkzilla" Bob Baker "High Pitch Eric" Glen Bussard "The Buzzard" Paul Bozzetto "The good etto" Chris Painter "The engine whisperer" Terry "The TAZ" Walker Tom Dudley "Mongo" Bob Montgomery "The Ape-Man" JD Smith "Junior" Jack "not the load" Cannon Dennis Pollard "Steve Urkel" MG Johnson "Chunk"

Name: BoxcarBob @ Dewitt E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 24 July 2008 There is no such thing on CSX. Everyone feels the same way. Moronic decisions that try to hide the true nature of the operations with service and on time failures covered up. Liars figure and CSX management is full of liars.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 23 July 2008 Your right we got bought, but we also know how a real railroad is run. You didn't work there, you will never know. Sucks to be you.

Name: Bossman E-mail: Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 30+ years Posted: 23 July 2008 Another conrail crybaby. The guys who worship the thought of Conrail in days past are the some ones who used to complain 10 years ago. You got bought, get over it.

Name: BoxcarBob @ Dewitt E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 30+ years Posted: 21 July 2008 Just wanted to let some of you guys know that the UTU DIPP Fund does pay without a transcript. On the form it says that a transcript "may" be required. I have only had one instance when they made a request to me for a transcript and even that did not delay payment of the benefits. All the other times they paid with a simple copy of the discipline letter. They also paid when a waiver is signed unlike BRCF or LMPCA who consider a waiver an admission of guilt. Yes they do have the 11 deadly sins just like the rest of them but after a couple of violations they (UTU) won't drop you like the others always do. Those other forms of job insurance are now about to make changes that involve not paying violations of some of the critical incident rules and there again, the UTU DIPP Fund still pays those, including red board violations. You are not getting the whole story as I read it here.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years Posted: 19 July 2008 Woo Hoo! Spencer is leaving Philly. Time for us to get our stuff together and start working again. It was fun while it lasted.

Name: Goober E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 18 July 2008 Locomotive Engineer with 30 years. Put the same stuff up 6 or more times. This is why the Disp get annoyed, same thing over and over every 5 minutes. GOOFY

Name: Throttle Puller E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 18 July 2008 Work safe ya'll....who cares about their IDAPT or whatever it is. Just slow down, work by THEIR rules and open those pockets up. You know, when I went to work for the railroad (L&N) 30 years ago, on my very 1st day cubbing with a switch engine crew at Murfreesboro TN. the conductor told me "son, keep your mouth shut, ears open and do what they say, never offer any suggestions of a "quicker" way to do things and they'll fill your pockets up." You know, Mr. Jim was right. That was the best advice I've ever been given since I started at the railroad. 30 years later, I still adhere to those words. Be Safe...and hold those pockets open.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 17 July 2008 For starters, there is only one member of TCI that is going to be on that board, the other three aren't employed by them. Second, they won four seats which doesn't even come close to giving them an upper hand. I'm willing to bet that you won't see the changes everyone is wishing for.

Name: Freddie Krueger E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 17 July 2008 It's out, TCI got four seats on the board...........

Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years Posted: 15 July 2008 Well Philly has gotten rid of a bad apple. God help those that run into Jim Spencer. A CSX tool and an ass.

Name: goober E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 15 July 2008 Engineer ROBERT posted his position, and even the web man came after him WTF is up with that. He may or may not be what he says, however many that post are the same thing. I thought he was posting his thoughts and they were reasonable, maybe not what most of the union folks want to hear but reasonable, and interesting. This is a good one for all of you UNION folks that like to send in that money . I was looking at the UTU web site and it says 125k members. That is not a lot. As a matter of fact not enough to fill a NASCAR race at most tracks. I do see that one UTU Ex lives in memphis tenn, The site shows his area and I know that area well. Boys that is a high dollar area, and he pays his note (if he has one) with your money. This is what RR experience does for you, and you wonder why the RR hire's new trainmaster with no RR experience NOW YOU KNOW. GOOFY

Name: BoxcarBob @ Dewitt E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 12 July 2008 Good information on this site for all railroaders. See how your officers function for their own benefit. http://www.freewebs.com/savetheutu/index.htm

Name: sum dude E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 12 July 2008 has anybody reviewed the new idpap policy? i mean i may be new to this company but it does not take me long to catch on to company policys and how the company operates. now i have read it, and it seems that csx is playing real hardball. i was reading the major offensives, and correct me if im wrong, but majority of the things that u can get taken out of service, now you can get terminated?? i mean lets say that union representation was there and probably couldnt do to much about it, i think that more people will lose their jobs. for example, for a derail, and im not sure if its in the yard or on the line of road, but you be terminated, instead of being out of service. like i said please somebody correct me if im wrong, or if somebody can explain it to me thoroughly.

Name: Super Rail Trucker E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 12 July 2008 Break one niner for The Bogster-you got your ears on there good buddy. I need a weed weasel report out of Avon. What's your twenty there Bogster? Come back good buddy-somebody walked all over you there at the coffee machine.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Car repair, for 20-30 years Posted: 12 July 2008 I thought he got shot....

Name: Wildman E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 12 July 2008 Ahhhh,there he is.

Name: Mr.BR.BOGGS E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 10-20 years Posted: 11 July 2008 I am watching all of you and getting very pissed off at you dummys who do not know proper radio procedures, as many of you all think you are on a cb radio, its not this 10-4 stuff on our radios, you better start using proper radio procedure or else its going to be a reg letter for you all and the hammer will come done hard on you all, the proper procedure is in the BOR and you better start using it or else your asses will get strick disipline as i was amazed hearing some of you on tape from the dis office, oh yes we do listen to those recordings, stop talking like hillbillys and use the proper terms or i just might FIRE a few to make my point, And also start talking in a clear and natural voice, i will not put up with this and you all have my word on that, You have been warned so get with our program not yours.

Name: jackmeoff E-mail: Employed as: Car repair, for 20-30 years Posted: 11 July 2008 i would hope it to be the other way around..i will stay up and watch the film at 11...........

Name: Freddie Krueger E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 11 July 2008 Just a RR rumor I heard, Some guy named Boggs kilt a guy named Pines.

Name: Dropalog E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 11 July 2008 i agree.br dropalog was more of a jerk than some of the real supervisors i delt with..glad to see pinenuts disappear but the viliage idiot will be missed.....

Name: Wildman E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 11 July 2008 Well this is boring,,,,where's Mr.B.R.Boggs when you need him? He can get things stirred up!!!!! BOGGS,,,FRONT AND CENTER!!!!

Name: C&O JOE E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 02 July 2008 Robert, come on man Arizona? I'm going to give you the benifit of the doubt and pretend your accually a B&O engineer who happens to have a strange thing for vacationing in the desert or be a big Diamondbacks fan or something. It absolutely warms my very soul to know someone out there be it in Arizona or Maryland or wherever, who honestly feels delighted to be treated like decaying dog shit. My only hope is that joy goes south because on the C&O it sucks in the worst kind of way.

Name: CSX BLOW E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 01 July 2008 HAHAHAHA!!!! Busted Robert from AZ. ! Only part of CSX thats within 1200 miles of you may be a stray engine you poser.

Name: susan E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 10-20 years Posted: 30 June 2008 Wildman, WELL SAID! ! ! ! ! Thanks for your very eloquent post.I agree with you 100%.

Name: Wildman E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 29 June 2008 Robert; I'm sure CSX is a good place to work since I've seen first hand some of the terrible condition of some of the foreign line locomotives.Some of the disiplinary procedures of other railroads borders on totalitarianism also.I wrote a lengthy caveat on another unrelated message board warning a potential new hire about the ways of the railroad industry and was almost banned for talking bad about our industry. The fact is,some people absolutely love railroading.It does have it's good days and then there are bad ones.I love the days when the train is ready to go when we get to work.When the work is smooth with no big surprises the day goes a lot better.For the most part the employees are the greatest,we share our food,money,rainsuits,cold weather coats,family stories,drinkin' stories,just about everything.Why? Because we're all in the same boat.Sometimes the boat stinks and needs the bilge (or toilet) pumped and sometimes we're going to the beach to hunt for nekkid island girls.Some guys like the challenge of being able to get a train over the road after a three AM phone call and some (me) hate it. Bosses are just that,bosses.They have to be a certain way or they,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,well I don't know why they have to be such hardheads sometimes,but there are good and bad here also.Dispatchers and yardmasters fall into that statement too! I don't want to hear the tale of the "BIG PICTURE" either.I can see two hundred miles in both directions and there just ain't no reason behind some of the things I've seen.Now back to my original post. My point is that,some employees love this way of life.The 0400 calls,snow up to your ass,rain coming in sideways,heat and humidity one season,freezing cold the next.Hardheaded overseers (here I go again) that won't listen to reason because they think you have an alterior motive (you're going to screw someone),or a junk engine to run.This makes some guys face the challenge and win,,every time,while some won't be happy until they are paid doubletime to stay home and bitch.I happen to enjoy running an engine on road switchers.You get to run at line speed for awhile then take a break by doing tedious short switching and car spotting moves. The way it sounds to me from your post,you'll be one of the guys that always come out on top mentally,and will have a long happy career.I guess it's what each individual makes out of it.

Name: Robert E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 28 June 2008 I must say, I know of no better railroad to work for than CSX! I work the Baltimore Service Lane and am proud to say that I love nearly every trip. Having worked for both UP and BNSF you have no idea how safe and courteous CSX employees are, (at least where I work). Naturally, there are occasional issues with crew callers, yardmasters/trainmasters but when compared to UP or BNSF it is wonderful. It saddens me to hear/read of everyone else's troubles.
Webmaster comment: Posted from Phoenix, AZ. WTF???

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 25 June 2008 Mike Ward's end of days is here. The vote in the swamp commences today. All I can say is sell your stock now. No matter who wins, the looser will be dumping his stock! Wall street journal article: Vote '08: CSX vs. Activists?Railroad's Investors to Choose Their Course?By ALEX ROTH?June 25, 2008;?Page?C3?CSX Corp. and two activist hedge funds with big stakes in the railroad company have bickered for months -- over past performance, profit potential, plans for capital investment and even how to interpret the company's balance sheet.?They've fought to a de facto impasse in federal court over securities law.?They've even argued about the location of the annual shareholder meeting, a New Orleans railyard that CSX calls a showpiece. The investors have labeled it "a swamp."?Now, shareholders are scheduled to decide Wednesday morning whether to give five of 12 CSX board seats to candidates offered by The Children's Investment Fund and 3G Capital Partners LP, the activist hedge funds that control at least 8.7% of the company's stock. Through so-called stock swaps, the funds have an economic interest in a substantial additional block totaling more than 11% of CSX shares.?The proxy vote comes at a pivotal time in the railroad industry. Trains in the U.S. are undergoing a boom not seen in decades, spurred in part by railroads' fuel-efficiency advantages over trucking and their ability to bypass the country's increasingly clogged highways.?Big-name investors such as Warren Buffett and Carl Icahn have taken sizable positions in some of the U.S.'s biggest railroads, including Burlington Northern Santa Fe Corp., and Union Pacific Corp. Stock prices have soared. Since the end of 2002, the Dow Jones Wilshire U.S. Railroads Index has increased nearly 240%. By comparison, the Dow Jones Wilshire 5000 Composite Index is up roughly 61% over the same period.?Last year, TCI, headed by London financier Christopher Hohn, began accumulating shares of CSX, which operates a 21,000-mile rail network in 23 states, mostly in the eastern U.S. The company reported $2.3 billion in operating income in 2007. Roughly half its revenue comes from freight such as agricultural products, crushed stone and metal; a quarter comes from transporting coal.?CSX management says the company is performing well and needs no infusion of outside leadership on its board. The stock has more than tripled under the leadership of Chief Executive Michael Ward, who took the helm in 2003.?But critics such as TCI contend the company trails industry rivals in key measures, including productivity and operating expenses -- which the company disputes. After amassing a position in CSX through stock purchases and stock swaps, TCI eventually joined forces with 3G, based in New York. The funds announced plans to nominate a slate of five candidates to the CSX board and launched a public-relations war against the Jacksonville, Fla., railroad company.?CSX has responded by accusing the funds of having little understanding of railroad issues and being reluctant to make necessary capital investments for the company's long-term needs. "I think their real intention is to suck cash out of the company...then sell out and leave somebody else to clean up the mess," Mr. Ward said.?Snehal R. Amin, one of TCI's founding partners, says that CSX isn't nearly as profitable or efficient as it should be given that the industry is in the midst of what analysts are calling "the railroad renaissance."?Mr. Ward also defended the choice of location for the shareholder meeting -- the company's Gentilly Yard in New Orleans. The hedge funds accused CSX of deliberately staging the meeting at an inconvenient location. "They put it in the middle of a swamp in New Orleans," Mr. Amin said.?Mr. Ward said the company chose that location to show off how the yard has been rebuilt since Hurricane Katrina in 2005. He said the meeting will take place in an air-conditioned tent.?In addition to their slate of board nominees, the funds want shareholders to amend the company's bylaws to make it easier to call special meetings. Mr. Amin said the two funds won't push for significant management changes should their slate join the board.?"There's value in the stability of management here and we appreciate that," Mr. Amin said. "What we want is a board that can actively engage with management."?Write to Alex Roth at alex.roth@wsj.com

Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 10-20 years Posted: 25 June 2008 Word around the campfire at rocky mount is that the TMs have covered up at least 6 run thru switches this year. Where does Wolf find these people?

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 25 June 2008 Poor Josh Claus has been shipped off to Baltimore!! Hope your nuts freeze and fall off,oh wait your a nutless piece of work anyway arent ya?

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 25 June 2008 I don't care if the guy is using the name Boggs as a cover. No real official would spend that much time on this site. If it will make you happy, we're all BR Boggs! Now lets get back to basics...CSX SUCKS!

Name: B R Boggs E-mail: Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 10-20 years Posted: 25 June 2008 There is that phony boggs idiot again..would the real br boggs shut up...

Name: Mr B R Boggs E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 10-20 years Posted: 24 June 2008 There is that damn phony B R Boggs again. Don't believe him. If I catch this impostor I will fire him in a heart beat. I don't really hate all hillbillies. My parents being the best examples. Wait a second, I hate them too. I have just about finished cleaning up Atl and will no doubt be promoted to head Trainmaster soon. Then I can travel at will firing who I please and seeing the best bath houses in the country. Be warned-OZ I mean Boggs has spoken.

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 24 June 2008 Hey Goober Gobbler I bet that was a Richard Simmons work out chain wasn't it? Go peddle your humps some where else. And take a nap before you go cruising for kids to start smoking.

Name: goober E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 24 June 2008 OK FOLKS think about this, In my day I was tired all of the time, not from hard work, just tired from being awake forever. I see the same thing today. In my day we could kick for 10 and that was a little help but not much. If a person did not do that--the call back to work in 6.5 hours from sign OFF was common. Normally we had 30 min prep time, however called on rest there was no prep time. Picture this, Requested rest time could be from none to 16 hours. Many people work 8 or 9 hours per day. Many 9 and 1 hour for a meal. RR has always included meal time in the regular 8 hour day. Now we have 15 to 16 hours of rest for those hard working folks.It is time for the UNION to step up, and give you the flexability to do away with the guarantee, get the rest that you need, and live on what you make. Years ago the RR could never keep up with more than 10 hours rest. Today they can do anything you would like. GOOFY

Name: goober E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 24 June 2008 Loco: I bet that Hamilton Watch is a 992b 21 jewel, with the spin off Glass face. As an old fart who knows very little, let me tell you. I bought one with a Simmons chain from a retiring conductor in 1963 ($25.00). It has since been stolen, but I do have the RR inspection card for the watch. Monthly inspections were required at the time. When the first wristwatch was approved, it was a change that the old heads could not stand. As I recall it was an Accutron (SIC). Heck it was so bad the old conductors and engineers would bad mouth anyone that had one. Sorry to see the Casio cheap watch comment, a good watch was a sign of a responsible RR er. GOOFY

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 30+ years Posted: 24 June 2008 NoMo, I always liked the "watch" rule. It's sad to see people wear $5 Casio's or worse using their cell phone. CSX is enforcing people to wear a watch with a seconds hand at least in my area. Nothing wrong in spending $75 to $100 for a Seiko, Pulsar, or Bulova railroad approved watch it's tax deductable as required work gear. Personally I still wear the Seiko I bought in 1981 when I was promoted to Engineer keeps perfect time you must have a watch that doesn't lose more than 30 seconds per month. It's part of railroad tradition. I also have a 1927 Hamilton pocket watch which is my only railroad memorabilia. That's a lot of our problem no tradition anymore. No pride. All I see individuals. With that CSX can do as they please which is evident.

Name: MR BR BOGGS E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 10-20 years Posted: 23 June 2008 This is the real MR Boggs from the office this morning, do your jobs and quit bitching about CSX!!!! You people can be replaced very fast so get that into your dumb hillbilly minds right now, its always a joy to FIRE some dumb redneck hillbilly as then they will have a lot of time on thier hands and get on the jerry springer show and make more money than working for MY company!! Get the drift dudes?

Name: Freddie Krueger E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 23 June 2008 Philly is hiring now. Management is trying to tweak the jobs, but it isn't working. Derailment in S. Philly right now. No details at this time

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 23 June 2008 Hey Freddie K: It has always been about 100% rules compliance. Whether or not CSX chose to enforce 100% compliance or look the other way is another matter. I know the rule books are considerably thicker now than when I left (they always write a new rule rather than amend or retire an existing one). I bet the rule is still there about having to have a watch and that it needs to be serviced once a year by a qualified watch maker. CSX has two items on the agenda: - CSX wants to be a line haul railroad, preferably from/to other carriers terminals. They are not interested in switching cars or working industries...too much man power and maintenance! - CSX wants to be an open shop, unencumbered by union representation and work rules. It's up to T&E to be as productive and efficient as possible (I know it's a daunting task with the Einsteins CSX has as management). The best defence is a good offence...make CSX so efficient that they can't afford to cut your jobs or nobody else can afford to buy them! CSX has as an agenda...does T&E?

Name: Freddie Krueger E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 10-20 years Posted: 23 June 2008 100% rules compliant, everyday, every shift is not laying down. It is what they want, it is what they got. Don't forget to take your lunch.

Name: Freddie Krueger E-mail: Employed as: Conductor, for 1-10 years Posted: 23 June 2008 NoMo, See, even the time you have been out, there has been changes. 60 cars is a monster train to switch now. I would be proud, not embarassed.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 23 June 2008 Hey APE 1-10: Overtime you say? Sounds like T&E is contributory to the furloughs and disciplinary woes which have befallen CSX the last several years. Working safely and by the rules is one thing, continuously laying down is altogether different. If that's the case, don't expect any help from TCI/3G should they prevail...should CSX prevail, expect it to get worse. There are 1,000's just waiting for their shot and CSX doesnt mind giving it to them!

Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years Posted: 22 June 2008 60 cars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THATS F<<<<<ING overtime buddy

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 21 June 2008 Shift 60 cars a shift? Are we talking double-overs? Coupling tracks or switching cars? One man or two man crew? No wonder CSX trails their peers in performance...with expectations like that they won't have long to worry about TCI/3G, they should turn their attention towards the bankruptcy Court! Even the greenest crew on the system should be able to do better than 60 cars a shift and still get a quit. How embarrassing!

Name: Mr. Boggs. E-mail: Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for Less than 1 year Posted: 21 June 2008 You whining little pricks in Philly..............I will replace Daly. Then review all KO markoffs for the last year. First problem solved. Second be one minute last for work .....I dare you ......I will call your relief and if I have to slow Q174 by 2 hours I will.........You though will lose a days pay. Third remote control crew will not get quits.........you will shift at least 60 cars per shift. Yard crews better strat looking at what they do......I have been............I know I can get rid of at least one job per shift. You morons in Philly have NO IDEA WHAT IS COMMING AT YOU. Keep playing your games..............PS Even after the janitor is gone you wont have clean bathrooms.......you dont deserve them.

Name: Cookie E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years Posted: 21 June 2008 Just a friendly reminder to send in your blue cards, the deadline being June 23rd. Make your vote count and your voice be heard! :)

Name: dumsh*t E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years Posted: 17 June 2008 I keep hearing everyone complain about Spencer and McBride in Philadelphia, but everyone seems to forget that the idiot Daly is the one pulling the strings. If anyone spent much time with one of the isiot trainmasters when he is talking to Daly, you know that there is not much that goes on without his fat ass knowing about it. He sits in his Ivory Tower ans sends his punk ass trainmasters to do his dirty work. Just so he can come down in the briefings and make a couple of jokes and play the nice guy role. Anyone else have any dealings with this prick?

Name: B R OZ E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 10-20 years Posted: 14 June 2008 Ok mr wildman funny guy..i know you got the weed.your buddys ratted you out.just gimme the weed and we will forget about you peeing in a cup til i run out again next week..make sure it isn't that ditch weed they sell in clifton forge..i smoked it for 6 months everyday and still passed a drug test.now that i think about it i didn't even get a buzz..just the good stuff this time.

Name: Wildman E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 13 June 2008 LOL!!!!! This is gettin' purdy good!!!

Name: Sir B R Boggs E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 10-20 years Posted: 13 June 2008 Do not pay any attention to the man behind the curtain.he is an imposter.i am the only one who knows how to make coffee..as for the wildman you better read up on your rule book.i can write new ones every day.i have a thousand ways to fire your deadwood ass..the first rule has to do with crossjacking your buddy in the siding and how to do it safely and the other stuff you made up...oz has spoken..i'm gonna get you my little pretty,and your weedhead friends to..i have drug test kits but if you just give me your weed i will overlook a few things..you scratch my nads and i will scratch yours kind of thing..

Name: MR/ B R BOGGS E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 10-20 years Posted: 13 June 2008 I AM BOGGS. THE ALL KNOWING BOGGS. YOU DON'T QUESTION ME! I GRILL YOU T & E MORONS BEFORE I FIRE YOU AND GO HAVE A CUP OF MY WONDERFUL COFFEE. AS FOR THE ATL DIV MANAGER-I ATE HIS LIVER WITH SOME FARVA BEANS A NICE BOTTLE OF CHIANTI-FUH FUH FUH FUH. OZ HAS SPOKEN. I MEAN BOGGS HAS SPOKEN.

Name: Wildman E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 20-30 years Posted: 12 June 2008 WOW! There are Boggs'es everywhere! Let's see if the original can answer a rule book question,,,,,What rule is on the top left corner of the twentieth page in the Safeway book? What about the new Atlanta Division Manager's name,can you supply that for us,the unknowing rabble. The bonus question is,,,where did the former Atlanta Divion Manager go? Did he get fired,retire,or take a promotion?

Name: E-mail: Employed as: APE, for 1-10 years Posted: 11 June 2008 I AM BOGGS.......Wish i could go to philly and straighten some of those city boy yankees out!

Name: b r boggs E-mail: walkingsmall.@looser.com Employed as: Corporate office, for 10-20 years Posted: 11 June 2008 you all in t&e think this is a big joke factory..WRONG..i am gonna deal with the fornicators and the habitual jerk offs accordingly..then i am gonna take spelling lessons and learn how to railroad all by myself and i will be moving out of the van down by the river to make room for your sorry excuse of a bag of bones..jerkoffs.......

Name: B R Boggs E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 10-20 years Posted: 11 June 2008 I am the real one..next after i get you weedheads i am going after your crackwhore girlfriends..no more riding in the cab with you guys.i know you are getting b j s at work and it is gonna stop..no more drinking either.you will have lots of time to do all that stuff when you are living in a van down by the river..maggots......

Name: MR/ B R BOGGS E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 10-20 years Posted: 11 June 2008 No I am the REAL B R BOGGS. If I catch you dope smokers I will take away your weed and use it myself. How else could I gather the courage to post such drivel? Got to go make the coffee and eat something. I got the munchies bad dude.

Name: Mr.B R Boggs E-mail: Employed as: Train Master/ supervisor, for 10-20 years Posted: 11 June 2008 I am the real B R..no one will give reach arounds but me..you will refer to me as Sir..you are not welcome to drink my coffee.it is not for low lifes..i will catch you dope smokers..i know what you are doing..NOTHING..that will change when your asses are working the window at micky d.s...Now shape up........

Name: MR.BR.BOGGS E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 10-20 years Posted: 10 June 2008 I am the real mr boggs who started out on this rr as a low life clerk and worked my up to TM and now assist super and this is only the start of more great things for me as i am sure i will be a GM very shortly then on the board of directors in a few years and who knows after that, mabey the main man when ward or ingram goes into dry dock, those 2 guys know how to run a railraod and how to control the pee on,s who do the slave labor on my railroad and do not ever forget it as even when i am in the big office i will still be watching you all for rule violations and will fire your asses if you disobey rules or orders on my railroad. And from now on you all will add me as MR.BOGGS or SIR on this hate site or i will fire your asses if i find out and i know how to find things out per say. i have my snitches and they are right in your rank and file members.

Name: NoMo E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 10 June 2008 Talk about being asleep at the wheel...it's Monday June 9th @ 7:46CDT Must be the Twilight Zone!

Name: B R Boggs E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 20-30 years Posted: 10 June 2008 Don't listen to any of those morons.they to will feel the rath.i may not go down in history but i will go down on your little sister,,,

Name: goober E-mail: Employed as: Other, non-employee, for N/A Posted: 10 June 2008 This applies to the RR and every place else. Years ago we all worked for white males. Now we all work for Everything else. If you have a white male to report to you are in an industry that is not the norm. It is called Diversity, and reflects hiring goals, with credits to some minority and there a bunch of them things. It keeps some out, and let's many in. We are a mixed group of folks still trying to get it right. Many foreign countries do not have this. Many countries have never allowed open boarders, and we have welcomed everyone GOOFY

Name: E-mail: Employed as: Locomotive Engineer, for 1-10 years Posted: 10 June 2008 Will the real BR Boggs shut the fuck up. Thank you.

Name: MR.BR BOGGS E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 10-20 years Posted: 10 June 2008 Don't listen to those three stooges, respond to my posts! I am BR.BOGGS! I will fire you! Will someone please respond!

Name: MR/ B R BOGGS E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 10-20 years Posted: 10 June 2008 No I am the real B R BOGGS. Don't listen to those other two impostors. I am the one who can make the best coffee and still have time to go pull my pudding the the little boy's room on a 15 minute break. I hate everyone. I even hate myself. I may fire myself just to show I can. I'll get you all. T&E sucks. Everyone and everything sucks. I am King of my coffee machine and don't you hill billys ever forget it. Howard Deen eat your heart out . WAAAAHHHHH!!!!!!!

Name: MR BR BOGGS E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 10-20 years Posted: 10 June 2008 Don't listen to that moron, I am the real BR BOGGS, I do exist, and I will keep playing with all your heads with lies.

Name: MR.BR BOGGS E-mail: Employed as: Corporate office, for 10-20 years Posted: 10 June 2008 You t&e are so stupid as one moron looked for BOGGS its a screen name dummys just like the ones you all use on this company hate site i guess most of you are all so drunk that you do not know this but you all will know my real name when you all fuck up or try your decitfull things with me, i got eyes dudes on the back of my head and i am watching all of you inbred hillbillys, just keep pushing your luck and you all will find out my real name in the worst way when that mailman deli